Buying and Testing the Eureka Train Engine in Railroads Online!

Hey everyone and welcome back to more Railroads Online! Today we are finally buying a new engine to add to our train empire! Since there are so many different factors to each of the train engines I decided to buy engines in order of cheapest to most expensive so the first engine we're going to buy and test with Kosmo is the Eureka! ‪@darealkosmo‬
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[@kANGaming]

Ok since I keep getting comments about it we did remember to turn off the tender brakes I just didn't include that in the edit.

[@jsherwood3577]

if you can sell trains/carts in the game sell eurika or if you can't save up for better engine.

[@cannedgaming2230]

Yes pls keep this game on the channel

[@jakewynn]

At 25:00 you need to use less reverser so that you get lots of torque but its harms the engine efficiency

[@EvuIt]

What time?

[@jakewynn]

@@ChaosDeere007 not necessarily. The train buckles when pushing which creates a wee bit of friction. Braking works best when pushing, however. You will always find in well designed trains, the engine in the front and the brakes at the back!

[@peytonsmith3258]

Hello Kan! I’m Thomas4peyton, one of the modelers who works on the game, (I did the Heisler, Class 70, and most of the rolling stock). Loving your coverage thus far and I have a few certified pro gamer tips for you! 1. If you have trouble with selling freight, try moving your track a little closer to the freight depot or sell point. The platform is typically the extent of the hitbox for registering a successful unload. The pond is the same way; logs must enter the pond to be counted. 2. Eureka is low torque but high speed- she will shine the most on gentle grades and wider turns. While not a great logging engine she has plenty of use moving cars across longer distances in less time. As you expand further you will find that moving empty cars is just as important as moving loads- so Eureka and similar high-driver locomotives have their own niche uses. 3. Grades are everything! For more tonnage and higher speed try and lay them as gentle as possible. (Additionally Holding shift + your grade increase/decrease key can change your grade in finer intervals of .25%) That’s all for now! Glad you are enjoying the game. Stay tuned for more updates; we have a lot of exciting things in the pipeline that shouldn’t be too far away. :) (P.S. If you need any help or have a question that needs answering feel free to poke me in the game’s Discord and we can get in touch.)

[@jacobsquartzminecart7632]

By the way are there more customization options in the works?

[@finnrossi2130]

You should try modeling the “Big Boy”, I feel like it could be a good train to add to the game.

[@henny6932]

As a developer can you please remove the stupidly high wheel slip on the Heisler Locomotive?

[@HispAnakin42]

I think the game has been awesome so far!

[@Jojokun78]

Eurekas were more of a passenger locomotive than a freight locomotive, larger drive wheels equals more speed and smoother rides for the passengers.

[@calebs4887]

You should do a series with your whole friend group in this game and just see how crazy of a system you can make

[@complexcanvas3825]

I agree with this

[@joncrones8909]

I’m hoping for this

[@trainsbignsmall]

I’m hoping for this too.

[@joshuasheagaming8171]

that would be amazing to watch

[@joshuasheagaming8171]

having like 5+ trains going about the map, making tracks meant for the places super far like express lanes so you can have 2-3 trains next to each other. would be super cool to see

[@TheGouzy90]

Trains connoisseur here : Small wheels = More torque but less speed. Good for heavy loads or difficult slopes. Big wheels = More speed but less torque. Good for light loads on flat terrain. More wheels = More traction. Can be a problem with tight curves if they are not articulated. Small wheels before and after the main (motorized) wheels keep the engine stable in high-speed curves. For your present small and tortuous line, you need an engine with articulated small wheels.

[@horatioyen256]

yep that's how gear ratios work

[@caradog1081]

Technically the “motorized” wheels are called driving wheels on steam locos, I don’t know about diesels though

[@clockworkgiant9070]

The devs have said that they’ll be adding passengers later, as well as nerfing the porter and possibly buffing the eureka, so that’s what the eureka will be for eventually

[@kANGaming]

That would be great!

[@hawkerhellfire9152]

Do they have a social media presence?

[@cromabakvet2677]

@@hawkerhellfire9152 I heard that they (the devs) are most active on their discord server

[@strike9716]

even though the eureka is more suited to high speeds than pulling power, you'd think it'd still be more powerful than the porter.

[@JeffjustJeff5117]

That’s what I thought

[@lillian6023]

Flags are used to denote a "special" train, like an extra passenger train that isn't normally run on the line

[@_Cheko_]

hello pardison

[@Shadow__X]

@@_Cheko_ hello there

[@lillian6023]

@@_Cheko_ new name who dis

[@trashpanda9075]

hello nora

[@enallane5538]

doggo

[@TitoRigatoni]

The only thing that makes the porter "broken" is the unrealistic distance between stations. The extra power is accurate for a shunting locomotive in the real world, but in the real world the distance between stations makes it unfeasible to run one on a freight line. The game doesn't have that limitation. Which is a good thing, because with accurate distances every run would take several hours...

[@Cragified]

Porter has more tractive effort. But it's designed to be a shunter. Working around the yard shunting cars. It doesn't have much water capacity making it not useful for actual town to town hauls.

[@americancanuck9790]

3:45 Links for the link and pin couplers were common to break in the real world. One reason why they were illegal after 1902 and they were replaced by the knuckle coupler.

[@henryfeng840]

actually, it is more like half that and half yard workers' health and safety concerns(using pins in a real yard with equipment that age means that it is easy to loose body parts)

[@thatoneguy611]

Another reason is that it was very easy to lose a finger to those things.

[@americancanuck9790]

I do like that the game includes them though they are mostly forgotten due to them being replaced at the turn of the century.

[@ValentineC137]

I dont know if it's just placeabo but running high compressor takes alot of engine power so I personally only run 8-15% compressor once the air brake's have been filled to maintain the preassure

[@quondamreveries7258]

The marker lights on the end of the tender are: red = end of scheduled train, green = train is split into sections, and a second section (pulled by another loco) is following this one, white = unscheduled or special train. The marker lights are normally on the caboose, but also on the locomotive, in case the loco is pushing the train. Very important safety info, in the days when trains ran on timetables and there was no radio communication with the dispatcher.

[@DerpyPossum]

thank you for saying the truth. a lot of people seem to be assuming they’re navigational lights, like those seen on ships & airplanes.

[@Pyrrhist]

What do you mean by "train is split into sections"?

[@quondamreveries7258]

@@Pyrrhist If there was too much freight or too many passengers for one train, the railroad would get a second or third train for the remaining freight or passengers. Each train would be called a section, though they would all be considered one “train” on the timetable. Each section would put up green classification lights on their last car, except the last which had red lights. This was important to prevent accidents when running trains using only timetables. For instance, if a west-bound train on a single-track route was on a siding waiting for an east-bound train to pass, they could not leave the siding until they saw the red lights of the last section go by, or they’d risk a head-on collision. (I’m simplifying greatly, I’m sure.)

[@MrMattkid]

You know, you could run with both engines, the eureka does go fast so you could use the porter to get the load moving from stop and switch to the eureka for the long haul

[@Thorzix]

Yeah that's what I thought too, or straight up two Eureka, might give it the extra pulling power it needs

[@caradog1081]

@@Thorzix but the eureka doesn’t have a front coupler, I don’t think Edit it does

[@Thorzix]

@@caradog1081 even if it didn't you could couple one at the back and push the train going in reverse while another pulls, on long flat and straight road it'd probably do well

[@caradog1081]

@@Thorzix your right

[@obscurebushman9622]

This would work, ik I'm months late but you're wasting weight that could be pulled, is the extra Loss in pulling capacity over time might diminish any gains in effeciency due to better acceleration

[@DerpyPossum]

those colored lights are classification lights, used to show the train’s purpose and situation relating to the timetable. White = “extra” train (not shown on timetable). Green = normal train with a following section. Red = back of the train.

[@DerpyPossum]

you’re also not supposed to have two colors at the same time ;)

[@2countries1god]

So it's not like in aerospace and nautical with red as the port side and green as starboard?

[@DerpyPossum]

@@2countries1god it is not like in aerospace and nautical with red as the port side and green as starboard

[@PrivateMcPrivate]

@@2countries1god why would trains need those lol

[@ReviewerKid90]

I love the Eureka, since, It's an actual real world Steam locomotive and this one is very accurate, being 4-4-0 during that time period. The guy who made this game did his research for sure.

[@goose_eater4342]

Fun fact I live where the real life eureka is kept, Carson City rail road museum. Occasionally they still take it out to give train rides

[@Vixen1525]

@@goose_eater4342 ohh Awesome

[@meme-xn6wr]

I am a train nerd, and have found your channel because of that. I would suggest leaving cars at the entrances/exits of facilities, so that you can go up hills better with only the cars you need. Edit: For example, around the 25:00 minute mark, you were not able to make it up the hill. What if, you left the loads at the sawmill, got the lumber you needed, and then coming back, you went past the wye (I’m sure you learned what that is from another commenter) and then back in to connect to your planks, then drop off lumber, lastly, unload your planks. Irl railroad logistics departments plan their ‘locals’ so that they can leave the cars that are being used on a main or siding while the engine (in your case eureka) does a little bit of shunting work. It’s an interesting concept, but makes it less taxing on your engine, thus, more efficient.

[@RJdeVries84]

The generator is for generating electricity, when the locomotive has electric lights, like the Heisler these will only work when it's turned on, it has no effect on power output, it actually uses steam from the boiler. Same goes for the air pump, that needs to be activated (15% will do) to be able to operate the brakes on an airbraked locomotive.

[@cubegamerr8071]

This series is super entertaining! Keep it up please, we want more!

[@Michelle_Klinge]

After taking a good look at the locomotive statistics I've seen that the Eureka is 44100 lb and has a Tractive Effort of 5620, while the Porter is only 22000 lb and has a Tractive Effort of 6110! So basically, the Porter is better in every single way compared to the Eureka. The only real positives about the Eureka is that it has a higher top speed and larger fuel capacity.

[@bisher69]

but i’m pretty sure the devs said they are gonna nerf the porter bc of it being so op

[@armagonarmagon3980]

The Eureka could haul potentially more than the Porter, despite having a nominally lower tractive effort, due to the fact it is twice as heavy as the Porter. Can’t put that tractive effort to use if you don’t have enough weight to put the TE down to the rail Edit Dec. 2021: Porter tractive effort will be lowered to 2,916 lbs.

[@IgnavumFortuna]

@@armagonarmagon3980 I mean we saw, in the pull-off contest, that the eureka had wheel slip, so that does not appear to be the case.

[@ostlandr]

@@armagonarmagon3980 But the Eureka has a bunch of its weight on the leading truck, so that affects potential TE. That's a big advantage of the geared locomotives.

[@jenniferstewarts4851]

the Eurika is a 440 (4 front wheels, 4 middle/drive wheels 0 trailing wheels) its from the 1870's. It was made to be a passanger runner, the train itself is kinda famous because it was used in dozens of films including the great train robbery. And yes, she's built for high top speed on "express runs", but is not good at pulling heavy loads or travelling up steep grades.

[@JonathanColemanTrains]

How the generator works is the more boiler pressure it has the more electric it has for the lights. The compressor is for the breaks on the locomotives and cars. So the generator and the compressor are two different things but if you want to go fast use the regulator and the reverser back a little bit each time and you will have the speed you want to go. To start out slowly increase the speed then give it pressure to move it

[@BrewedAdventures]

Was about to say that. The generator is only a turbine with a electric generator on it for making electricity. It has nothing to do with the power of te locomotive

[@deltaforce229]

I was so confused by Kan's generator comments, I might not no much about trains but I've got a good understanding of engines, electricity, and pneumatic/hydraulics and he made me think I was missing something. Also I always thought of the reverser like a counter intuitive gear lever. 100% being low gear and 1% being high gear. (It's how I played MSTS in the early aughts.)

[@ajorsomething4935]

Yeah, his friend was probably thinking of either a blower or a damper. The blower is a steam jet used to increase draft over the fire when starting a locomotive. The damper is a vent in the bottom of the firebox which forces more air through it. The higher the speed of the train the more air gets forced through the damper. How open or closed the damper is can be controlled by the driver.

[@theyeetus1428]

I wonder why they felt a difference in power then?

[@delroy8278]

Any steam engine can be used for any purpose of course but as a general rule a steam engine with four wheels on the pilot truck (the small wheels in the front of the engine) was primarily used for passenger service. The four wheel made them track around curves smoother. Freight engines usually had just two wheels on the pilot truck.

[@miklosugranyecz1717]

I suggest you coonect both trains "permanently",it would give the Best of both worlds,top speed and low speed torque,it would be pretty practical with 2 people I think

[@cupidz1973]

I was thinking the same.

[@PrivateMcPrivate]

Yee more engines is always better

[@strike9716]

once you get up to speed, you have to gradually back off on the reverser to go faster. otherwise you're just wasting steam.

[@inkyscrolls5193]

Something else you might try doing is using the Reverser. The Reverser works in a similar way to the gearbox in a car; full forward or full reverse are equivalent to first gear, with the closer to midgear (0%) you get the higher the equivalent gear. So you'd always start off in full forward, then as you pick up speed slowly move the reverser towards neutral (no closer than about 20% forward or reverse); this reduces the amount of time steam is permitted to enter the cylinders for on each stroke and allows the expansive properties of the steam to do most of the work for you. It's more efficient and you'll end up going faster because you're not choking the cylinders with more steam than they can easily compress. Source: I'm a locomotive fireman in real life.

[@synth6754]

7:00 betsy isn't broken, a lot of porter locomotives just have stupid amounts of torque

[@PrivateMcPrivate]

Yeah because of something very magic called gear ratios

[@Jirodyne]

After reading a few comments, and seeing the train in action in the video, I think the Eurika will be useful for when you need small cargo, shipped very long distance. Remember, you only have tracks to 1 part of the map, not the entire map yet. The porter while stronger, as you mentioned doesn't have the fuel and water compacity to haul very long distance. But short distance? The Porter is much better. So yeah, probably as soon as you guys start using the other buildings, and start setting up railroads very long distance, you'll find taking smaller loads with the eurika to be better for those distances.

[@drewbear4471]

Sanders work for low traction environments and they add grip to the wheels. You can fill up the Sanders using the sand tower on top of the engine

[@mattjones2303]

I'd have the Betsy and Eureka both connected at the same time. Eureka for the long distance hauling, then the betsy for that extra torque when needed. Have the betsy as a pusher engine

[@matthewclark7885]

Engines like that were usually meant for passenger transport kan, that's why the smokestack looks that way, it has an ember catcher to prevent ashes from landing on passengers and cars

[@trainsbignsmall]

The eureka is a 4-4-0 American type steam locomotive and was the most popular locomotive type used in the 1800s. It wasn’t till later that they were replaced by bigger locomotives like the 4-6-0 ten wheeler and the 4-6-2 prairie type locomotive.

[@oregonrailfan7046]

A 4-6-2 is called a pacific not a prairie a 2-6-2 is a prairie

[@hikaru-live]

Eureka is really just a passenger engine. Good as an endurance scout with one or two passenger cars at most. Meanwhile once you outgrow Porters for mainline hauling you may still want to keep them, leaving them near inclines with minimal maintainence facilities as banking engines. Betsy is your banking engine here rescuing Eureka out of that incline.

[@crazyotto3126]

One quick question: Does the reverser work realisticly? If yes you should try lowering the reverser to get higher top speeds ^^ because with the reverser it should be more speed and less torque the closer you get to neutral.

[@antontalbot9148]

No, the game is simplified. Either full forward or reverse, and the regulator is the only controll that changes speed, power and water consumption. Not how a real steam engine works, but we have to draw the line somewhere and I think this is a great way to keep a great simulator and a not too hard to understand for new people.

[@heritageinthe21stcentuary13]

a nice engine but its design is intended for long distance light loads the mogul 2-8-0 and the 0-4-4-0 would be more suitable for freight hauling or heavy trains also am realy enjoying the series

[@IONATVS]

Yeah, use the Eureka for scouting, maintenance of way, or maybe speeding ahead of a main train to make sure the switches are in the right direction

[@Pystro]

Oh, speeding ahead of the train to do the switches. That's an original idea. It might make slightly more sense to follow AFTER the freight train and set the switches for the return trip, though. That way you aren't under as much time pressure, and you can push the tail if you do catch up to it. You'll need to plan ahead at least 1 trip, though.

[@IONATVS]

@@Pystro that’s one of the jobs an actual brakeman in the caboose of a slow-moving freight train would be tasked with doing, back in the day, but requires a bit more forethought than I’m expecting from casual players

[@gfletcher6183]

Red Light - Tail Lights, they should be positioned directly on the last carriage/wagon you are carrying - if a Red was on rear of Loco then it would be a Light Loco Flags on the Train - This denotes the Headcode / Running Code of the unit

[@cobaltengineering7083]

kAN, I've figured it out. The area that has a track going beyond an invisible wall is actually right where you view the trains and train cars! Also, you can move your camera while in the train car and train purchasing area. While moving your camera, you can look around and see that it is indeed the same track that is blocked off.

[@TacoTLG]

love this series! keep it up

[@armagonarmagon3980]

Research Dev here. I’m gonna have a look at the Eureka and its “generator.” It is technically not supposed to have one, since it doesn’t have any electric appliances to require having a dynamo in the first place. Even in her preserved state, which is what the engine is currently modeled as in game, she doesn’t have a generator of any kind. We will eventually add passenger traffic, so the Eureka and other similar engines will have better use for that, though locomotives like Eureka were marketed by Baldwin (at least by the 1885 Builder’s Catalog) as mixed-traffic locomotives.

[@kylebrown1362]

the best way to compare for you is by the performance tab were it says tractive effort, the eureka has a much lower number than the porter and that's why its able to out pull it it so easily. you want a train with the highest lbf (whatever that means).

[@DFX2KX]

lbf is pound-foot. Tractive effort is the locomotive term for torque. when hauling cargo, you're right, more is better.

[@cartoonfox6128]

Ya know the smaller engine being stronger is actually realistic as the smaller wheels provide a lot more torque

[@majorphysics3669]

yea but the small engine wouldnt have the weight to be able to put the torque down. It would spin.

[@robertferrick463]

@majorPhysics, actually she might actually be able to. All of her weight directly is supported by the four drive wheels. The larger engine, has her weight split between four drive wheels and four guide wheels. Less weight directly on the drive wheels. And smaller wheels equal better torque. Larger drive wheels, mean better speed, but less pulling power.

[@ifyourmarriedyourasimpandacuck]

@@robertferrick463 yeah the big boy and challenger from union pacific are real life proof your statement is wrong, nice try tho. Not enough weight on the drive wheels means wheel slip end of discussion.

[@lebinator9565]

@@ifyourmarriedyourasimpandacuck You are comparing apples to oranges. The Big Boy (4-8-8-4) and the Challenger (4-6-6-4) have the advantages of 60-70 years of technological advancements, 3-4 times the number of drivers, much heavier with the majority of their weight on their drivers (locomotive without tender weight is about 770,000 lbs), higher boiler pressure with larger pistons, and better fuel. Formula for approximate tractive effort is T=(((d^2)sp)/w)x0.85. d=piston diameter, s=piston stroke, p=working pressure, w=driving wheels diameter inches. Smaller diameter wheels mean higher tractive effort. Going solely on the information from the game the Porter weighs 22000 lbs, has a boiler pressure of 120, and has a tractive effort of 6,110lbf. The Eureka weighs 44100 lbs, has a boiler pressure of 120, and has a tractive effort of 5,620lbf. We don't know the piston diameter or stroke but having the same pressure, the smaller wheels of the Porter are better. Some of the weight of the Eureka is the tender. The tender makes up at least 10,000lbs leaving 34100lbs for the locomotive. If 75% of that weight manages to go to the drivers that's 25000lbs which isn't much more than the Porter's 22000lbs with smaller wheels. If the weight is split even as it should the Eureka has at most 17,000lbs on it's drivers. Porter was designed for yard work requiring high torque to pull strings of cars. The Eureka was designed for long distances and faster running. Both were optimal and used most on flat terrain. There's a reason trains then weren't long, the locomotives couldn't pull them.

[@robertferrick463]

@@ifyourmarriedyourasimpandacuck Traditionally, freight locomotives did have smaller drivers than passengers locomotives. Big Boy and Challenger, were some of the largest steam locomotives ever built. Of course, their tractive effort would be insanely impressive. The example of a small 4-4-0 VS 0-4-0; and you're trying to compare that to a massive 4-8-8-4. Funny how you fail to mention the Erie Triplex, that had a 3rd set of drive wheels. She couldn't get above 20 miles an hourr. You have one opinion. I have another. Let's agree to disagree.

[@Spook_Boi]

18:18 beams and Lumber are both 12$ a pop. but if u do only Lumber or Only Beams, the Sawmill will stop working once the other type fills up. also Logs sell for 10$ a pop at both

[@YurtFerguson]

You've got my subscription here, the almighty algorithm pitched me episode one and I've not been disappointed yet.

[@broscolotos]

The host can see every car all over the map. My guess is they use geometry to calculate physics. Because of this, once you get more cars and locos your game will start dropping like a rock in terms of performance and will cause a lot of desync because of the hosts lower FPS. Anyway, actual render distance is not far at all. 12-14 cars tops.

[@devinfaux6987]

The basic rule-of-thumb for steam locomotives is: Fewer, bigger wheels = faster More, smaller wheels = pulling power Essentially, while Betsy has only four wheels and the Eureka has eight, only half of the Eureka's wheels are "driving" wheels; the ones powered by the rods. This means that only half of the Eureka's weight is resting on the driving wheels, while *all* of Betsy's weight is on her wheels. This makes the Eureka much more prone to wheelslip than Betsy will ever be. Any locomotive that has only driving wheels like Betsy does will have very high pulling power, but they tend to have lower speeds.

[@tomflynn3433]

That Eureka is for passenger cars isn't it? Specifically 3 or 4 cars. If you created a scenic route around the map that would be perfect to add a few passenger cars and invite the train crew you were talking about to sit in the cars as you take them on a tour of the map. And will need the Dev to add passenger cars.... Edit: I'm not a train expert, I've just seen back to the future haha

[@arkilos2253]

According to the wiki, she was a mixed use train. built for a company called the Eureka and Palisade Raildoad. Became a Hollywood star briefly under Warner Brothers, eventually ending up as a museum piece.

[@FQP-7024]

BETSY TO THE RESCUE!!! Jesus how hyped I got when I saw her full steam rushing towards you blowing the whistle, nearly got shivers up my spine

[@schudder1623]

You need the mogul that engine hauls EVERYTHING away

[@jj-lw5xx]

Going off the rails like it’s crazy train!!

[@Redinator]

Yes! Moar trains! Put Betsy in between the two different sets of 10 cars as a booster.

[@legendarybacon3616]

I'm enjoying this series, found your channel after seeing your first episode in my recommended. Keep it up 👍🏻 I might just grab this game myself thanks to you

[@robertbalazslorincz8218]

*I think the Mogul would have been a better choice..* Reason: it has more drivers, so more of its weight is distributed on driving axles while still having a relatively short wheelbase that allows it to handle tighter curves

[@slickrick8279]

They poor tho ... Thats why they bought this cheap engine

[@robertbalazslorincz8218]

they should have saved up more then..

[@carebloodlaevathein6732]

Maybe run Betsy as a helper engine in the back of the entire train in a push/pull-config or just slot her in right behind the Eureka to double head it? The first option would actually give you the additional benefit of increased overall viewing area, which really helps with (un)loading at platforms as you can see the position of the rolling stock in relation to the platform much better from the rear of the train than from the front.

[@TaxtheToaster]

tractive effort is a HUGE factor in strength and from what i saw it has about a thousand lbs less

[@JaneDoe-dg1gv]

The generator just provides electric power for the lights so has no bearing on locomotive power. The compressor can reduce power so leave it off or on low when not braking. 440s are amazing for high speed trains five cars and under. Can't haul freight to save their life. For the very steep grades your railroad has, buy a geared locomotive like the Heisler. In railroading 1% grades are normal with anything approaching 2% becoming steep for most engines. During WW2 the big boy class of locomotive were built specifically for east-west cargo hauling across the Nevada rise for the extra power needed to haul freight up the "steep" 2.3% grade before the Rockies. After like 3% grade use a geared locomotive instead because nothing else has the tractive effort needed to pull a heavy train up an incline like that. With trains hauling freight, the most important number is tractive effort. Get that number as high as possible.

[@warrior3456_]

you could use betsy as a banker to push the train without coupling up

[@caseybeckham8595]

Bro im actually in love with this series already and im like actively seeing if youve posted it

[@torham]

Now Kan/Kosmo wants it to be nighttime? I'm so confused.

[@darealkosmo]

grass is greener on the other side I guess xD

[@djcheeseburger1300]

The dev’s where saying in there dev-log they where planning on adding towns for passengers. they also have 70+ locomotives planned for the game. Some tips The geared locomotives have stupid torque but low speed The second to last locomotive I think has 11,000ft-lbs of traction effort compared to the 2,000 with I think the Eureka engine has. Hope this helps.

[@AnimatedDude420]

It seems like that Betsy has a higher acceleration than the eureka, but the eureka has a higher top speed than Betsy

[@keithbitherton3634]

I notice that you like to run your trains with the Compressor at 100%. If you notice, that puts your air brakes all the way up. Which means you are trying to pulls cars with your air brakes fully applied ALL THE TIME. The air brakes are meant only to assist in stopping the train. Turning off the compressor while you're hauling,, especially with the Eureka, will do two things for you. 1- You will travel faster since you won't be fighting the air brakes the whole time, and 2- You will use less water since you aren't constantly losing steam through the airbrakes any more.

[@durrainsnow8455]

YESSSSSS new episode! I've been looking forward to seeing more of this game ^w^

[@roodlaargo]

eureka is an awasome looking engine its yesh good for going quickly from point A to point B without carts and it works well as an display engine too cuz its one of the best looking ones

[@4est269]

Hey! Ship captain here, I recognize those red and green lights you asked about @ 5:14 and I believe they might mean the same thing here that they do on vessels. They are used to tell the direction of travel from a distance at night. Red lights are placed on the left or port side, and green lights on the right or starboard side (relative to the front of the vehicle, so in this case the engine). Knowing this information, if you see a red light traveling on distant tracks then you can conclude that the train is heading left relative to your position, or right if the light is green.

[@flyer3849]

On trains they were used as signal lights, red meant the end of the train, or they used green if it was stopped on a siding and it was clear to pass. White on the front is a extra train and green is a extra on the same schedule

[@schuttrostig5729]

I think the generator should make no diffrence. Tuning down the compressor to 50% once the breaks are fully filled should leave more steam for driving, but it was going at full pressure anyway. I can see the loco work great once we get passenger cars, also it seems much more stable on the track and faster, so i can see some usage when using it with like 8 cars for the long runs. Railroad track should not have more than 2.8% grade, that slope at logging camp is a lot more.

[@karpen042]

The red/green are directional lights primarily used on plains, trains & boats. Red is port/left and Green is starboard/right. Therefor you can tell what direction it's moving using the lights. If you see red on the right and green on the left it's coming right at you. If you see two red lights it's passing from right to left etc...

[@DerpyPossum]

that’s actually not true. those colored lights are classification lights, used to show the train’s purpose and situation relating to the timetable. White = “extra” train (not shown on timetable). Green = normal train with a following section. Red = back of the train.

[@richardakajazzyamx9690]

That chugging is also often called 'bark'. If she's barking hard, that loco is really working.

[@jakewynn]

at around 25:00 you need to use less of the reverser so you get more torque!!!!!!

[@nathanhaupt6485]

That is not modeled in the game physics yet

[@DFX2KX]

This game doesn't model that feature AFAIK.

[@jordananderson2728]

To add to what the other commenters said, you also have it quite backwards: less reverser decreases the torque of the engine by reducing its cutoff.

[@voxlknight2155]

Love the series, found the channel through it and have been watching other stuff since then. Love you're stuff

[@epicstormchaserswf]

Eureka is a very special 3ft locomotive. Built in 1875 she is the only Baldwin 8/18C still operating and one of 3 that still exists. She was designed for Mixed traffic but so were most of the other 4-4-0s from the mid 19th century.

[@epicstormchaserswf]

She now runs at the Nevada Southern railroad museum that runs from Boulder NV to Henderson NV (just south of Vegas) I have seen her NSRM since we have family out there but I’ve not seen Eureka in Person. I saw the

[@epicstormchaserswf]

(I saw the railroad she operates on but not Eureka herself)

[@SnowLepGaming]

Plus the compressor is use to help tender engines build up steam while stationary or moving. Sadly burns more fule while doing so. At least it can keep air delivery constant to where the wood goes in the engine.

[@therealmtg]

the compressor is for the air brakes so using all the time it will lower your speed and power so turn it on just before you brake.

[@durrainsnow8455]

Literally only found your channel yesterday and your Literally my new favorite KZbinr already :D

[@Skyfire_The_Goth]

I've seen a few people answer what the lights are but in a very basic form, so here is a more detailed explanation. In the late 1800s railroads started using lights at the rear of the train to indicate to signallers working under the Absolute Block system that trains were complete when passing their signal box. Red was simply "End of Train" the precursors to our modern FREDs. Green was used for a regularly scheduled passenger train, when ridership demand exceeded the capacity of a single passenger train they would have another "section" following behind it, a section was another train carrying more of the passengers, this was done for however many sections were needed to complete the train with the final section displaying red. They also used white which was for an extra train not shown on the timetable. Train-movement authority used to be controlled by timetables. If a train was listed on the timetable, it had the authority to operate according to its printed schedule. It was exceedingly important that trains kept as close to the timetable as possible, any trains not on the timetable had to be clearly identified so the signallers could message ahead of it so the next block signaller can put it on a siding if needed, so these trains had a white classification signal, these typically were trains like freight or excursion trains. There would never be signals of different colors on the back of a train, it would always be one of those three.

[@gfletcher6183]

Wagon Marker - SLU (Standard Length Unit) Flag / Signal - Limit of Shunt would be the terminology for a marker for shunting

[@steamenginestudios]

The Eureka seems like a good candidate for a scouting engine, maybe if/when a need for track maintenance is introduced into the game, or perhaps if there was ever a runaway and you had to go find/rescue the missing engine, or if you were building a new line, or scoping out potential roundhouse locations, it might be a good idea to have a engine that can be used for that kind of work. The Eureka has a good top speed when it's running light, and it has a very high fuel capacity, so it could be out on the line for a longer time period without having to return to the depot to refuel, which makes it a perfect scouting locomotive.

[@ChrisTheRailfan]

thank your for pronouncing Eureka correctly. The Eureka exists in real life btw

[@spacenutcj6919]

90% sure that the random track in the woods is just where the models spawn when youre in the shop - doubt it actually works as track

[@KerboOnYT]

You are correct

[@timo0605972]

german train traffic controller here the lights at the engine are supposed to signal the front and the end of the train. usually on the very last wagon you have the two red lights or two red/whire iron plates to signal " this is the last wagon that this train had when it left the trainyard. " so in case of a seperation the wagon would stay behind on the tracks and in order to get the next train onto the tracks you need to know that it is free of anything ( trains, wagons etc ) and you do that by looking at the end of the train for those 2 red lights. if they are there everything is fine. if they are gone you have something inbetween the two trainstations like the last ( or last few ) wagons that broke lose. so you are not allowed to tell you neighbour traffic controller " everything alright, send the next one " usually today trains have a spead of about 160 km/h or more. and at 160 they need 1000 meters to break to a standstill. so if you see something on the track at that speed you are not gonna make it before hitting it. thats why the comunication is very important whenever a train wants to leave and enter a trainstation and/or the track inbetween them

[@oregonrailfan7046]

Dude this is America our trains don’t work like that

[@Kabluey2011]

Love the series. I picked up this game because of colonel failure, then found your channel. Definitely a subscribe from me

[@leuman3104]

Love this serie!! For fun maybe create a super long rail and try top speed for eatch trains. With a loop at the end for come back.

[@MrStillings]

So, you had a Gordon's Hill moment. Lol :D 26:00

[@TheIndigoSnek]

“You’ll find her, she’s Betsy.” Favorite quote from Kosmo

[@Anastas1786]

The lights on your train are for running at night (duh) or for increased visibility. I suppose _your company_ can set _its own_ rules for what color lights (and _combinations_ of lights) are used when and where, but as far as I'm aware (being fairly new to trains), in _real life_ generally: The red lights mark the end of your train, just like the rear lights on your car. They go on the rear of your locomotive if you're not pulling anything, on your last car if you are, or on the _front_ of a locomotive that's traveling _backwards_ for any reason, whether it's traveling alone, pushing cars, or it's the rear locomotive of a train with an engine on each end (helping the lead engine by pushing when necessary). White and green lights (and flags, during the daytime) are used up front to communicate timetable matters. In the "early days of steam" time you're working in especially, which train is allowed on a given stretch of the line at any time is dictated by the timetable; Train A gets "control" of these tracks 9:00-11:00, Train B comes after and has control for an hour, etc. Green lights/flags are used when the company needs to send more than one train during the same block on the timetable. Say, for instance, the company has "Train C" scheduled for a regular passenger service, but then one day they determine that there's going to be a ton of extra demand, so they assemble as many extra trains as they need. The next day, Train C passes a monitoring place as usual, but flying green flags. This means "There's another train following close behind. Don't panic; it _also_ counts as "Train C" for the purposes of the timetable. Let it pass as though I was never here". The next "section" passes through, also flying green flags, which means there's _another_ train that is _also_ "Train C", and so on, until a train passes with _red_ flags/lights up front. Those mean "I'm the last section of Train C; you may now once again issue fines and complaints about anyone who passes by before our time slot ends". White lights/flags mean "I'm a special train. I'm responding to an emergency/heading out for track maintenance/carrying VIPs or special cargo/a special limited-time holiday service/ whatever. Don't bother checking the timetable for me; I'm not on it". I guess for that the company just sends a telegram or a messenger to the signalmen ahead of time.

[@DerpyPossum]

thanks for stating that

[@EvuIt]

Love watching this atm and if u did longer videos like 40 mins or something id watch them all

[@EvuIt]

Just realised this video is 40 mins lol

[@harrytodhunter5078]

I like that things become highlighted now when you hover over them

[@garand70]

The lamps are used when the tender is the end of the train. Red means end of train. Green is used to indicate the train is in the siding and it is safe to pass. When on double track, the green lamp goes towards the clear track side.

[@brandondietz7188]

Yall are doing good with this series. Keep it up guys!

[@cerseonbrassmann5222]

Cheers kan. This engine as you said is made for long freight runs with no climbs. Like if you build a bridged long line across 2 distant points with a far max of 5% climb.

[@LSoRgroup]

hey kAN, just found your channel and as a huge steam train enthousiast i love this series. Might be wrong but the generator is there to supply electrical power to the train (for lights, ect). The compressor powers the air brakes. Running the loc' with generator will have no positive impact on performance of the engine.

[@pilotmanpaul]

Hope the Devs adds randomized Cowboy style Towns and roads for passenger use. Also, I recommend with Eureka is to double head or even triple header it.

[@dillonrinehart8319]

Love this series. I didnt know about this game until i found your videos, and instantly bought

[@zdog0336]

You know kan, I really don't like you showing me all these great games, makin me jealous because I never found them. Lol love the vids keep up the wonderful work man

[@datsaskull672]

Fun fact, I believe this is true at least, if you have the reverser at like 50%(or -50 for reverse) it'll have more torque

[@ratheonhudson3311]

The Chronicles of Betsy, she's still got it. Hauling massive loads

[@railstofails1396]

kan, the term you're looking for for running an engine without a load/cars is "running light"

[@robmazur1253]

The generator is most likely a steam generator. The Eurkea was designed for passenger service and the steam generator provided heat for the passenger cars that were attached. The compressor is for the use of air brakes once introduced.

[@9ilest]

Red and green is Port and Starboard, left and right. You can switch them around depending which direction you are traveling so you can tell which way the train is facing at night.

[@garrettnunez2936]

I think this game would be great to have a blooper reel

[@tad2021]

I believe the Porter is currently OP. I'm pulling almost 30 loaded cars with it and its not even struggling, though braking is somewhat hazardous.

[@dampfhuhn7810]

Bro, i just watched your other episodes and thought... ooohhh nothing left.