BUILDING A SHIPPING CONTAINER SHOP PART 2

Here is a much requested update on my shipping container garage! #shippingcontainerhouse #shippingcontainerhomes #garage #shop #business #dirtwork #equipment #construction #excavation #hardscape #shippingcontainer #metalfabrication #metal #metalwork

[@peterharold6456]

You need to turn that container back on it’s strongest part THE FLOOR then you could weld a plate from the bottom container to the top container to strengthen the roof in the bottom one and then use the top one as storage too or office space or cut windows in it and turn it into man cave Pete from England

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

Thanks for the advice but we already had a welder come over and support and connect everything. We may put a plywood floor in it in the future but most likely not.

[@aarontolzmann2038]

Good thing about that is you can cut it back apart and do it right

[@Prodigalzson]

That top container is going to come back to haunt them.

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

@@Prodigalzson definitely not. You’re behind and need to watch the 5th video. Had professional welder here who has tied it all together and supported it…

[@rhinomite5203]

Honestly the containers are made to hold more weight than one realizes and it’s all on the corners and stacked a dozen high. But I get it, you have to do what works for you. Either way, I really like the truss idea. It will be awesome no matter what because the size alone will be great for the price 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

The 40 footers are allowed 4 high full or 700,000 lbs if stacked on four corners. But that’s when they are not cut open. When they are cut the structure is compromised

[@davidhorsley1149]

That is the great thing about shipping containers, they are effectively a bridge. When they are stacked, the weight is transferred down via the corners, and unless the container is compromised, there will be a gap the full length, with the exception of the corners, of about 2". When they are loaded on the ship, the bottom deck has oval holes like the container, that allow the containers to be intermittently locked to the deck and then randomly locked together. This keeps the gross weight of the container distributed on the four corners and transfers stacked weight through the locks to either the ships deck or the pad surface in the yard. Given the container's bridging effect, your structure will be more compromised because of the top container laying on it's side. The corrugations in the roof and the interior decking are not engineered to bridge like the corrugations on the side.

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

Assuming the weight of snow on the side walls will be fine. Walking on the roof vs walking on the side feels the exact same. Both sag equally as much. Also same thickness metal too. I can’t stack that one up right because it’s on a container that’s compromised. So with it being on its side it’s laying on 6 posts and not just 4

[@davidhorsley1149]

@@tandtlandscapeandmasonry the point is, the only way the container with the side removed would not support the top container is if you removed both sides walls. They sell or you can make register pins to place in the corner pockets, which would stop the bottom container from racking over and collapsing. It's just like building a house. Many houses are built with exterior sheathing that has no structural strength, but when that is done they will place one sheet of rigid structural sheathing at the corners to keep the house from racking over and collapsing. The back wall will act as this corner bracing for all four corners if the top container is registered on top of the bottom one. Unfortunately, you are reengineering a system that doesn't need reengineering, and by you relying on your 6 points rather than the four proven points you may be setting yourself up for both failure and injury.

[@davidhorsley1149]

@@tandtlandscapeandmasonry another point, so long as you have not removed the "c" channel at the base or the tubular member at the top, you have not compromised the side that is removed unless you cut the corners off as well. As everyone has said, the corners are the load bearing supports.

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

@@davidhorsley1149 is the weight of snow gunna collapse that? I don’t plan on putting anything in it. Hard to imagine it will the floor I’ve very rugged standing upright like that

[@davidhorsley1149]

@@tandtlandscapeandmasonry don't know where you are. Though you may not be concerned about codes and minimum loads, but God forbid something catastrophic happen after you're done, that's when officials will take note of your non-conforming structure. That's when there is the potential for the lawyers to show up and start assigning liability. Now you might think it only impacts you, but if something happens because you didn't work within your areas snow and wind loads, it becomes precedent that can be cited across the country. And it will not be that you may have ignored sound building practices, it will be that the use of sea containers for structures is an unsafe practice. It's just as easy to work within the engineering parameters of the container and safer for you too. And even though they are high cubes, the height difference at most will be around 24".

[@bentheguru4986]

You need to rethink your theory on the back container. They are strong on vertical, not so great on their sides. Turn it back vertical, weld lower cut-out section to it to stop it sagging. Build roof trusses up to top of the top container, put a door through and you can access top one from inside.

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

Welder already came and welded all containers together. Also supporting the roof side next. I don’t plan on putting anything in it and I will be able to take the weight of snow easy

[@aarontolzmann2038]

The best thing you could do is cut them back apart. That's a complete waste of container up there. I understand what you were thinking about supporting 6 posts but that's not necessary. Run a beam across

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

@@aarontolzmann2038 the container is supported on the inside and welded by a professional welder. It will easily take the weight of snow and we had a 75 mph wind storm and it did not budge. There is a part 3 showing the supports and I still might put up more. The 9.5 feet the container takes up was cheaper then putting more trusses up. I’ll drop a video probably tomorrow of us putting up the wood trusses. The top container is the last thing I’m concerned about

[@aarontolzmann2038]

@tandtlandscapeandmasonry I'm not seeing where that container is cheaper than putting up more trusses

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

@@aarontolzmann2038 31,000 for 39 feet. 48 feet estimate was 38,000. Container was only 3700 so it was a no brainer to me not to mention it allows for everything to be welded together

[@robertmcdavid2795]

The 1 laying on the top on it's side is going to be the weak link. The floor and corners are where the strength is. There is no strength in the walls

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

Should be same as the roof. The roof is the same metal just a foot and half less wide

[@user-rh9my1rd9q]

If you stand that top container on its bottom it will rest on the four corners. In the railyards they are stacked 6 high loaded. You go and buy corner pins and it won't move. If you use cathedral trusses you will have more clearance down the center.

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

I need it to rest on six because the bottom container is compromised. It is being welded and supported to all 3 containers. Also the clearance thing is 9.6. I welded steel tubing connecting the side containers so I can cut the walls out

[@haulitall]

You would still be better on the corner posts. They make container locks so you can push lateral as well. Good luck getting doors open sideways with ease

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

@@haulitall doors are very easy to open like I have it tried it last week

[@56coupedeville]

If you stack the container right, you dont have any weight on that wall. Because the weight will be on the corners. Thats how they are designed. So the way you have them now are much weaker than if you stack them the right way.

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

It’s on its side because we welded all the containers together and supported all of them. Makes much more sense to do it that way.

[@carlbrown939]

It's funny you can stack those things full of cargo 4 high. But not the other way. Youll get by with doing that in this application. Since youre reinforcing them. Just be aware that structural integrity of the top container is compromised and build accordingly They're not designed to with stand Lateral forces. Which is why you don't see the buried in the ground with out serious reinforcement. The sides buckle. This is an interesting build. Something I'd try If I could get a bunch of those containers cheap.

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

@@carlbrown939 yes for sure

[@lynstoneham]

Hope you are going to show it all the way through interesting

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

Sure will be!

[@Z-Bart]

I like the trussed roof idea. Not a fan of flat roofs and rubber membranes.

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

After lots of thought I agree

[@davidkies621]

Put plow s on car dolly s from harbor freight I use them on boss ten foot v plow it takes three per plow

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

Thank u will do!

[@jayharper2252]

Your not gonna be able to use a pallet jack on the upper container unless you put a floor in it because it's got the humps in it like the outside walls .

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

I plan on plywood!

[@ianvandyck2146]

I do understand you wanne keep it cheap. Why not weld a steel beam to support the roof ( even knowing the roof beam & bottom beam are a containers strenght and not the walls. Still i do think its weird setup with the container on its side. You could put 2 steel beams on the twistlock pockets so it could rest in the middle. Here in europe we see many industrial roofs for container storage of kroftman. they are not steel roof but heavy duty fabric.

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

My next video will show the supports for the top container and all the welding we did to connect everything

[@TravizSnodgrass]

why not flip it up right. set it on the corners like it was made to be. add an 4x6 1beam across the opening with 2 post. one on each corner of the opening. then the top containers floor is down and you can store stuff and use a pallet jack. unlike now the walls are not flat.

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

The one below it is compromised due to wall being blown out. So needs 6 post to lay on not just 4

[@Crewsy]

@@tandtlandscapeandmasonry The one on top will be supported by the corner posts of the bottom one. The compromised lower one can have the opening reinforced with a beam attaching it to the upper container. Plus now anything stored in the top one is on the wooden floor where the strength is an not the side which when it’s flat has no strength not to mention how hard it’s going to be to move anything across the corrugated wall. Look at Andrew Camarata’s container shop. Walls opened but framed in and support posts added where needed.

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

@@Crewsy I’m storing nothing in it now

[@mattslandscaping4246]

I already to put a hoop over top Or by trust us and tin a roof.

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

Trust and metal roof. Starting December 18th

[@mattslandscaping4246]

@@tandtlandscapeandmasonry Yeah, my buddy didn't the trust and tin roof it turned out pretty f****** sweet. Or if you just want it storage and not worried about hitting it a cover also a cheap way to do it. I've done that before.

[@mattslandscaping4246]

I have one conceit container with salt in it. And the other side is storage. And then I have a full-blown shop in the middle.

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

@@mattslandscaping4246 nice!

[@mattslandscaping4246]

@@tandtlandscapeandmasonry Good luck, man.

[@22focker]

You know the walls arnt flat so your gonna have to put a floor on the wall to be able to store anything in there. And try lifting one of those doors sideways 😂😂😂😂

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

Yes I know. Just gunna not put anything in it or just one sander at the end

[@Justin-di6cp]

Dude...i feel like you just made it more complicated. Good luck

[@emichaelschmidt]

If your not going to use the top cargo container for storage and your going to put another roof on it why did you even bother with the second row of containers?

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

Because that container is welded now connecting them all together. Also it is cheaper than getting another 9.5 feet or roof

[@tluva1020]

Lol

[@aarontolzmann2038]

You're just wasting that connex up there. Run a beam across that open side on top that fits in between the rafters and you will have a better and less leaking roof

[@Prodigalzson]

Um... that top container is a disaster waiting to happen. I HIGHLY recommend flipping that top container to stack directly on top of the one underneath it.

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

U need to watch the 5th video. A welder came and supported it so it can take the weight of snow. We have had heavy snow and 70 mph winds. The roof has held and the top container is solid. 0 issues

[@Prodigalzson]

@@tandtlandscapeandmasonry Its not the simply the weight of the snow that is going to be the problem. It is the design of the container itself. If it designed to shed water from the top, not the sides. You may have supported the weight, but on its side, the water has no place to go and is going to pool. That is going to cause issues in the future.

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

@@Prodigalzson rubber roof is going on it! Watch the part 5

[@13yrag]

Someone needs to do more homework you really haven’t got a clue wasting your time and money

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

A welding company has since came here and properly supported everything and welded everything together. Had a 80mph storm 2 weeks ago nothing moved. Has been snowing and nothing is failing. The contractors putting the trusses on see no issues. Part 4 will be out hopefully next week. Elevations have not moved a centimeter also

[@vonippo8371]

Using shipping container is a massive waste of time and money and resources

[@tandtlandscapeandmasonry]

??? Cheap, fast, strong and fireproof.