Building a Working Paddle Boat with Unlimited Fuel! (Scrap Mechanic Survival Ep.37)

Hey everyone back with more Scrap Mechanic Survival! Today we are trying out a new method for making an unlimited fuel boat, using paddles! Apparently it is possible to make a functioning paddle boat although it isn't exactly the fastest thing around...
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[@00FantMod]

Thanks kAN! :D dont ask me how i came up with that... i think that (paddle) glitch use is based on Space Engineers Clang Problem. That Produce the same Ghost forces

[@robertbalazslorincz8218]

Can you try building a water vehicle that moves with weight shift? Just to test if this idea even works. It sounds ridicolous ik.

[@neddavies4358]

Clang has joined the scrap mechanic dev team god help pistons

[@00FantMod]

@@robertbalazslorincz8218 i did allready tast that. no way. sadly ;)

[@simpfornightbot4868]

can you replicate the child body with bearings? I looked (in ye olden days of scrap mechanic) at the json file for some of my blueprints, and saw that it had that same 'child' tag, so was just wondering if it was possible to make it cheaper xD

[@bborb]

@@simpfornightbot4868 wait child

[@GhostOfSnuffles]

These earlier videos make me appreciate oil ponds all the more. I remember wasting so much time gathering oil under the water.

[@TheMrSeagull]

6:45 "It would be free energy..." Thirst bar: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@Neon-ws8er]

MrSeagull just drink the ocean

[@thatfarmer_kid1295]

Stonks 😂

[@crimson3274]

Scrap man in his early vids tried doing that. Nice method your videos are nice tutorials. I just love when you explain exactly what are you doing step by step. Thanks to you i have made some of my first walkers and double wishbone suspension.

[@jonathanlewis6146]

Slug boat: No where near as much lag, better looking, quieter, less expensive, far less water splash, less likely to turn into a tornado of doom, simpler, and funnier to watch. Kan: *But dose it have 100 logic gates?*

[@scottwalker6386]

The effect actually has nothing to do with parent/child relationship at all. It's some kind of bizarre momentum calculation error that appears when angular momentum is translated linearly. You can reproduce the effect with or without water, with or without parent or children. The effect is greatly pronounced with springs, making one wonder if the spring glitch comes into effect in whatever underlying physics error exists- but even without any parent/child at all on the paddles, your object will move... but it will take a *lot* of paddles to even make it crawl.

[@Beregorn88]

10:30 "look at this!" I wish I could...

[@dessinator_]

I gotta say kan, you come up with the most unusual(ish) ways to save fuel in scrap mechanic

[@paulroberto2286]

Yo Kan you could counter-act the torque by having non-suspension paddles rotating in the opposite direction

[@sonicfan88321]

Good idea.

[@rocksfire4390]

Paul Roberto then you would lose a ton of speed because the craft now weighs even more. the easiest thing to do that doesn't increase weight is to make a long line of bubble wrap out the back (10ish blocks should be good) then widen the end. could hook up the paddles to level 5 engines on max and it wouldn't be able to flip the thing over. you want the flotation parts of your craft as FAR away as your main body as possible. this provides the most "lift" out of the water as possible. do you feel it's easier to tighten a nut with your fingers or do you feel it's easier to tighten a nut with a long wrench? same concept (mechanical advantage).

[@paulroberto2286]

@@rocksfire4390 ah good point!

[@sonicfan88321]

@@rocksfire4390 that makes sense.

[@simonvutov7575]

Rocksfir e I was gonna make a point on that

[@wickedfast2166]

Imagine logic controlled trains to move stuff. Like press a button at a station and the train comes

[@limonlx7182]

I actually made a working prototype of a monorail train with stations in creative. Although I don't think that it's possible to call it from another station to your, because it probably will be too far to be loaded and you can't interact with things if they are not loaded, but I don't know how SM works, so maybe it can be loaded somehow. Also, until blueprint auto-building is added, copying the logic from creative to survival will be really difficult.

[@blucksy7229]

I love the idea but I think monorail or train are limited heavily by lag

[@limonlx7182]

@@blucksy7229 do you mean the rail itself?

[@sniperely7915]

@@limonlx7182 well... squidy made a huge conveior belt with hundreads of bearings and it didn't kill his computer that much lol... I think a welded ( to ground ) train track in multiple pieces ( to avoid big obhect lag) and a train shouldn't kill the frames..( lots of blocks, mininal bearings ) go for it, it's your game.. have fun!

[@atrixplayz5078]

Recording in scrap mechanic 101: Make sure to record in the day and not the night so it does look like your recording software doesn't look glitchy

[@stuartpratt3662]

step to look/ask for a mod to force daytime or a command for ingame time freeze

[@catdisc5304]

@@stuartpratt3662 I still don't understand why sleeping doesn't skip the night...

[@kANGaming]

I try to avoid nighttime because it completely messes up the bitrate of recording. Software does not like darkness

[@atrixplayz5078]

@@catdisc5304 Me to

[@michaeljep9461]

Im just thinking of an old fashioned ferry boat

[@aifangs2661]

Finally I have been waiting for this XD

[@TheNateMate95]

Finally I have been waiting for this( laughs face)

[@aifangs2661]

Schaitel user hey that’s my comment; this is the comment police put your hands up where I can see them, then slowly walk out the vehicle

[@TheNateMate95]

@@aifangs2661 ok let me get one more it was moving 5mph( drawing a race car ) RRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr( you a cop" hey ")

[@aifangs2661]

Schaitel user i don’t understand we need a re take of this

[@aifangs2661]

Schaitel user (THIS IS THE POLICE PULL OVER)

[@damiendutch420]

Paddle boat that's epic!

[@rokaq5163]

Your comment could be either an assertion (paddle boat which is epic), a cheer (Go paddle boat, kan. That's epic!) or an expression of impression (that paddle boat is epic). Not saying this in a bad way or anything, it just amused me to think of the many meanings a single sentence could have.

[@damiendutch420]

@@rokaq5163 its all of them, thank you for this detailed examination of a comment i left in 3 seconds.

[@rokaq5163]

@@damiendutch420 This overly specific thought was sponsored by overthinking gang.

[@bread0237]

If you use bubble block for paddles, could the buoyancy have better traction in the water

[@vincentemmanuelvillamer5773]

Nice question

[@wyattcamacho7464]

I dont think the buoyancy would help, I think to have optimal traction you need the water to be just below the bearing of the paddle. The buoyancy would leave less of the paddle in the water, therefore less traction. There would have to be expirements to figure it out 100%.

[@vincentemmanuelvillamer5773]

@@wyattcamacho7464 What the... Ur so brainy!

[@slogllykop]

@@wyattcamacho7464 but if u think properly the paddles being bouyant will make a repelling effect and i think that might push the boat more than concrete, i think u r right this needs testing and experimentation

[@wyattcamacho7464]

slogllykop the buoyancy would simply push the boat up, not to the sides.

[@ryangeissberger279]

1:40 I think kAN is the Sith Lord we’ve been looking for

[@wyattcamacho7464]

"He must stand a fair trial before the senate" "KILL HIM hes too dangerous to be left alive!"

[@withanotter7192]

thank you i just started playing yesterday and I needed a good boat to cross water

[@Nochucktester]

What if you make the paddles out of the bubble block instead?

[@fififinance7469]

Newbie to YT. Instructional posts are so helpful and informative when there is so much to learn. Much appreciated!😀🤣

[@Massitcles]

Ha! 00fant got a shout out, nice! Also Kan, he modified the tape bots for you, half damage and double health. (Available in his discord)

[@paullowry3598]

You should consider having a smaller base that is entirely on a boat, and that runs with a bunch of massive paddles. The entire bottom would be bubble blocks, but the idea is that you can go at cruise-ship speeds from place to place, and you can walk around while it's moving. You'd be able to choose how many paddles are running per side as a way of changing the speed of the boat.

[@etopsirhc]

is there a difference between high and low friction blocks for the paddles?

[@klausste4882]

23:19 "put your blocks on a child"

[@d9o7m26]

It would be sweet to see if you made the paddles out of bubble block and really wide so that they're used as the flotation and movement of the boat in one. My thought is that the flotation of the bubble block will also increase the amount of force that the suspension is converting into the forward movement of the boat following the parent child concept.

[@tinpony9424]

I have so many questions and comments on the subject of boats to ask and make, but for now, I'll trim them down to this What do YOU want a boat to do for you, and why not gas? Component weight adds up fast. 00Fant (double zero Fant) does have some pretty amazing builds. A lot of them involve code edits, so just be aware of that. I have a thruster boat that I use for water travel. I've stripped it down to work with two thrusters, two sensors and a gas tank (no seat). It can be refueled on the move, and carry 4+ large chests. Oh, and it's FAST. If you'd like to see it, I could post a link for you.

[@chrizlonegs]

Dang thx for this idea man I'll try making a amphibious one

[@jeremysmith7190]

Some improvements could be that you add even more weight to the paddles and make it longer to counteract the torque, and you could also improve it by using their 3 wood

[@zachtalongamesyt9981]

I mean... wouldnt it work to just use bubble plastic for the paddles?

[@Norbal.]

Probably not

[@blucksy7229]

Tried it failed not fun

[@blucksy7229]

The flotation provided by bubble stuff is not in the right way to provide propulsion so the only way it works is weight

[@stuartpratt3662]

there is a disproportionate calc that enables the paddles to provide the thrust and I think it requires weight to work

[@darkling6]

He could always use sand

[@mieszkoulatowski2749]

Kan, you can use controllers hooked up to forward and then connect it to the seat to get w-s steering

[@maidofmeat]

You should build an oil rig to store the oil harvester on, not as a technical project but as a nice build!

[@wynlauzon4187]

You should use i beam corners for your underwater tank for it to sink faster

[@loganswepston8978]

No one: Me: i used children to power my paddle boat

[@stuartpratt3662]

lol no it is my children's chore 24/7 to power my paddle boat

[@loganswepston8978]

@@stuartpratt3662 Santa sweating intensifies

[@Jerbt]

Lol I just stumbled upon this series like I week ago so I binge watched all the episodes to here

[@lordbogdan236]

Like one week ago i maked a paddle boat myself it works so epic, my design, was only with 3 paddles big one in front and 2 little on side back.

[@christopherkirley8054]

Houseboat would be dope!

[@William_Kyle-Yuki_Yuuki]

I think if you were to make the paddles wider and a few blocks longer it would work better also slowing the speed of the controllers a little should let the game do its calculations better.

[@adammartinson7557]

FYI, this works due to the suspension glitch. It's the same phantom torque, except in this case it's based on the inertia of the paddles. So the paddles do need to be *heavy*, but there's no reason they can't be *buoyant*, they'd just have to be bigger when using lighter material.

[@cyborglion4179]

This is cool for getting free boat movement on a bigger vesserl but if you want to go somewhere the best choice really is a little canoe powered by a hammer.

[@loeffel4144]

Hello Kan, I saw a little difference that could at least explain why he had less problems with the backwards rotating forces. His floating pads are just connected by one single point to the main part of the boat and this connection is as far as it looks, in the short time it can be seen, like a sport suspension.

[@Thegamingrobot1358]

In prototypical paddle boats and or steam boats the paddles usually spin a lot slower to give a more consistent push through the water maybe lowering the speeds of the paddles will give u more forward thrust through the water but that’s only if scrap mechanic know’s how water physics work

[@evilboss7337]

On the paddles instead of concrete use the bubble block just an idea

[@latbil]

I don’t think that would work because he needs the weight. The more massive the object, the more inertia/momentum/something there is to propel him forwards

[@rocksfire4390]

lots of that wood of the main boat should be bubble wrap, that would speed it up quite a lot just based on the weight lost. also as a test replace the paddles with bubble wrap too. can also make the paddles longer, just have the middle paddle stick out a bit more on the sides then the front and back paddle. it should also increase the cool factor by at least 2. also if you wanted a glitch less way to turn, you can just rotate a large mass in one direction. small glitch less aircraft use this for yaw, pitch and roll.

[@thefridgecorpse]

woah, paddle boats are actually possible? that is really cool.

[@jakobmontgomery471]

Kan is the king of free energy slow vehicles. 👍🤙

[@joeldday]

Awesome! It's a shame the paddles aren't more effective. You should try building a raft trailer to pull cargo. Not sure if the raft has pulling power or how the water physics would work with a mechanical hitch like your truck though?!

[@mitchellmifflin4392]

Kan, i have a suggestion to make it quicker, remove some of the wood, just keep the framing that holds it together and have the rest empty.

[@rlgames3436]

You always find a way to make my day better😁😁

[@AWESOME2715]

Now it's time to build a cargo ship

[@nick2097]

do you think the floating powers of the bubble wrap block would be better for use as the paddles?

[@smysko66]

Kan the major difference between yours and 00fants is that his paddles are submerged completely being one block fully below the water. The second thing is that only his bubble blocks are touching the water, the wood is actually one block above with air between the wood and the water. That might be why his is faster as he has less friction going on.

[@tytangameplay3118]

Either make the front paddles quadruple bearings or have a suspension stabliser glitch and remove the extra bubble blocks.

[@der-ulle]

u could put the controllers directly to the seat so u can use W and S to go forward or backwards?

[@CMDRunematti]

you really should try with bubble blocks as paddles, as it turns into the ewater, it would try to float, so would lift the main body, then as it turns it keeps lifting it. i think (i dont have patience to build this whole thing :x) it would push it forth

[@andreamendes8034]

nice!! I wonder what will happen if you set up six bearings together?? Instead of just two. using a flywheel spinning the opposite direction

[@Kholi0777]

YES FINALLY

[@davidlima9778]

I don't think its the interaction with paddles and water that makes it move, its the torque that makes the boat try to spin in a direction, and the bubbles counter that, making it move because how flotation works

[@QwertySanchezSA]

outside of the electric engine, I notice 00Fant has his pontoons on suspension as well. and it's all level 5 suspension if that helps.

[@elio8589]

He use lv5 suspension because he has the "dev mod".

[@0skaremil]

You had me at "Tank-drive"

[@ArmitageShanksMC]

By the looks of it, 00fant was using maxed out suspension, and also had his bubble pontoons attached using suspension. I wonder if this had something to do with how his seemed faster than yours.

[@tomb3782]

I've always wondered if you could build a river boat in SM.

[@adamchmielewski6162]

Wait, so can you put a bearing, attach a block to it, attach a bearing to that and so on and so forth and then attach a wheel to them and go fast? Also use a controller to do it

[@hammars8013]

I don't know if it would have any effect but what if you make a boat propeller underwater by angling some blocks at 15 degrees +/- 30 and have them on a rotating bearing for the main drive shaft

[@ethanhughes3515]

If you make the paddle bigger would it increase the force or does the game not calculate physics like that

[@nona1891]

At the start was there "" in between the some suspension 😉

[@pepperspray7386]

What if pistons extend the paddles individually as they go forward and down, and retract when coming out of the water?

[@thingocthanhdinh9550]

do you have wood 3? that good :]

[@toxicbavariankitten]

Is a propeller a viable option for moving the boat forward/backward?

[@roguewolf3134]

Love the vids

[@michaelco1382]

kan is nice builder :)

[@michaelrevels3572]

I wonder if things with friction affect the physics in water, like if you put things on the end of the paddles to increase their friction to increase your speed

[@hikoplays]

to hjide bubble bloth it needs to be covered by another block. gotta find that sweet amount

[@ReusableRocket]

it would be so much faster if you put steering suspension glitches on the paddles themselves, one on the side of each individual paddle. Hook those up to a controller or whatever and it should work!* *I haven’t tested this in-game yet so i have no idea if it’ll actually work

[@hoverfish9286]

You can make a hauling boat to collect stuff from other islands and maybe even haul a whole vehicle to collect from the islands

[@Drago_Whooves]

you could connect the controllers to the seat and control them with W/S, then you don't need a separate reverse controller

[@jakobchaney6819]

1:00 in space engineers we call it maingrids and subgrids

[@samueltheblonde]

Wow. I was not expecting it to actually work the first time.

[@EDreyer]

So if the datastructure for calculating the physics is a tree, then you can maybe try something to help with lag. Taking Scrap Man's base for example. He has the castle with the massive bridges. Currently he has the bridges connected to the base with bearings. And then pistons on bearings, that connects from the base to the bridge agin with bearings. So image now the parent child tree. When something calculatea the physics, it goes: Parent, child, child of child, child of child's chil,.... So Bridge > connected with bearings to > base > connected with a bearing > to a single block > connected with a piston > to a single block > connected with a bearing to > bridge > ....... So entire thing is a massive loop and if not handled correctly, would take a lot of processing. So by rather connecting the pistons directly to the ground, there is no circular connections between the parts. Thus the possibility of not hapening. Just an idea on how to connect larger buildings and systems. Might be wrong if the devs thought it.

[@Sniper_Gaming994]

you could use a piston engine on this and a suspension glitch to steer

[@DeltaSpider_]

I totally copied your design for my boat, kAN. Full marks for the excellent build. Thanks a bunch.

[@inferno_raptorvr9896]

customize the end of your parking lot into a boat dock with a small crane and a setting AKA a switch for each boat you make

[@m4rt3rz]

NICE! and with bubble paddles?

[@jonyvole]

00Fants boat had suspension between the boat and the pontoons, i think that might have helped with the speed, his supension was olso on 0 strength.

[@OnexLen]

It may be faster than swim sprint but it does not cost you hunger and thirst, and also you can travel afk, with proper direction you can go places while doing something

[@Monarch2240]

Once I get scrap mechanic I’m going to be all set with ideas and tips

[@EricLinstone]

Wok power is perfectly viable for a boat. And woks are heartier than worms. Also you can adjust their speed by putting corn on a piston. But they fast they go, the harder it is to control the boat. And yeah. 1 wok can get you going faster than swim speed at max speed. Not by much but...

[@danthiel8623]

Very cool and interesting 🧐

[@elcid1775]

Maybe try different materials on the paddles. Heavier, more buoyant, maybe even hybrid paddles.

[@darkling6]

Why not use sand for the paddles like you did with the oil car? Also you could try making the boat hull out of bubble blocks to keep bouncy and reduce size. Not sure if any of this would work though

[@zarnox3071]

Turning could be done by putting a massive (mass, not size), buoyant, fully submerged paddle that rotates on the vertical axis, so the torque makes the rest of the vehicle turn. The buoyancy is to offset the mass, so it doesn't make it sink.

[@Nuclear-loadout]

That has to be the best pirate I've ever seen

[@AmericanFry]

Also in my experiences the bearing being 1 block off the waters surface is the most efficient and effective

[@chrispienaar9674]

What if you start one pair of the paddles on a 45 angle? Making that the paddles don't hit the water at the same time?

[@Ural_4320]

with your under water vehicle try the I beams those sink fastest and the amount of blocks doesn't change the buoyancy i think

[@ManIkWeet]

What happens if you put paddles next to eachother? Connected to eachother? (so 2 bearings, paddle, 2 bearings, another paddle)

[@omnomgamer8633]

They should add water based farm bots but also add a way to plant crops on your creations so you can have a base on a boat it isnt safer its just dfferent and portable.

[@kalamatagames2631]

i am so addicted to the game you start for 1 hour to play and you spend like 7 hours easy and my second most favorite game is( age of empires 2 conquerors )

[@Cedar23]

What happens I you fully submerge the the paddles ? Would that work ??

[@xxjkl742xx]

You don’t need switched into the controllers. You can connect them directly to the seat and still have forward and backward if the controller is looped

[@shay5025]

00Fant is a wizard!

[@maxwellgulyas6444]

00Fant's boat had horizontal paddles on a slight angle so they touched the water, can you try flipping the paddles?

[@ironwolfF1]

Maybe Wood 3 for the main body? Less weight, more buoyancy (than regular wood). You might want to test wood 3 paddles as well...