Building an All-Aluminum, Fuel Injected FE Ford (with a Carroll Shelby Block!)

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The Horsepower Monster

The Horsepower Monster

Күн бұрын

In the '60s and '70s, the FE was Ford's designated racing engine. It won races in NASCAR, LeMans and drag racing, and we're building an updated, all-aluminum FE with electronic fuel injection and a sweet Borla Induction stack injection setup. This FE is machined, assembled and dyno'ed by Prestige Motorsports in Concord, NC, and it has to be the ultimate engine for any Cobra or GT40 replica build.
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@davidtaylor5082
@davidtaylor5082 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a Chevy guy but when it comes to the fe engines you have to give your respects one of the greatest engines ford put out
@sparkplug1018
@sparkplug1018 4 жыл бұрын
I don't mind giving props where they're due, I just wish people would quit with the, this is the best or this is better then that stuff. They all made some awesome engines. And this is a real beauty.
@chadkent1241
@chadkent1241 4 жыл бұрын
@@sparkplug1018This block, when equipped with the SOHC heads was as big of a monster as anything made at the time and still pretty amazing by today's standards.
@spambeanie2
@spambeanie2 4 жыл бұрын
It was all right it's still one of my favorites but the 385 series is better as far as being able to get power and reliability The thing that made this engine so great is from the factory completely assembled with cast iron manifolds and intake it was still a 650 lb motor instead of like 750 like a big block Chevy which ironically is a much better breathing engine with open shared heads
@baddonkey6876
@baddonkey6876 4 жыл бұрын
My dad was a chevy guy we ran a machine/repair shop together back in the day i love both but always considered myself a ford guy, my brother is mopar mad, in all honesty ive grown to love all three because of their ability to always be competitive with each other
@947plan
@947plan 4 жыл бұрын
All 4 American car companies made some amazing bad ass iron. I love FEs because we kicked Ferrari's arrogant ass with them. FE stood for "Fairlane engine" and was a luxury car's motor before Ford realized the "Y" block design was able to hold together at high HP and high RPMs. Yes the BBC makes more power per dollar than an FE but if you have the cash these engines with the right heads (Cammer) were the top dogg! Man I miss the proud days of Detroit muscle.
@damenbrazen1851
@damenbrazen1851 3 жыл бұрын
Whoever is shooting, directing and editing these Horsepower Monster videos deserves a lot of praise. Little to no obnoxious heavy metal music, great lighting, interesting and illuminating tight shots, excellent narration, and great editing choices. Watching the tech struggle with hand fitting piston rings before shaking his head and giving up, then using expanding pliers, made me laugh for a good minute. Great job.
@TheHorsepowerMonster
@TheHorsepowerMonster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! It is always nice to get positive feedback. And thanks for watching!
@dallasjayden582
@dallasjayden582 3 жыл бұрын
I dont mean to be offtopic but does someone know of a tool to log back into an Instagram account?? I somehow forgot my login password. I would love any help you can give me
@kyesullivan7137
@kyesullivan7137 3 жыл бұрын
@Dallas Jayden Instablaster :)
@dallasjayden582
@dallasjayden582 3 жыл бұрын
@Kye Sullivan thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site through google and I'm in the hacking process now. I see it takes a while so I will get back to you later with my results.
@dallasjayden582
@dallasjayden582 3 жыл бұрын
@Kye Sullivan It worked and I now got access to my account again. Im so happy:D Thank you so much you saved my account!
@Christuffrz28
@Christuffrz28 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are choking this thing out! With this combo you could easily push 800+ HP. Give her some lift and induction, this baby would spin!!
@thereisnospoon52
@thereisnospoon52 2 ай бұрын
That engine is a work of art on the inside, so cool looking it's a shame no one will see it.
@CWO3-uscg
@CWO3-uscg 2 жыл бұрын
I’m 68, went to Ford tech training program during H.S. in Los Angeles 69-71. Always been a fan of the FE. This looks like a great build and should be in a 64 F100.
@tomnekuda3818
@tomnekuda3818 4 жыл бұрын
I've put together a few Ford 427's in my life but looking at this engine block, crank, rods.....you name it and I feel like I was working with junk compared to this. The ones I build were side-oilers and were top-of-the-heap in their day.
@Turbo4Joe363
@Turbo4Joe363 4 жыл бұрын
I put one of these in my ERA Cobra when I built it in 2003. All aluminum Shelby block & aluminum Shelby ported heads with a stroker crank (468 cid) and Crower 300+ degree solid lifter cam plus dual 600 CFM Holleys on a Tunnel Wedge intake. The Cobra weighs 2,300 lbs and makes 600+ HP. Have to be wearing Depends when the 2nd Holley opens up on the progressive linkage!! 😲.... 😳..... 🤯 😁
@davidwalker7383
@davidwalker7383 4 жыл бұрын
You're not trying to be a story topper...are you?
@azmike1956
@azmike1956 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't sound right to be running on 1 carb & using the 2nd as your secondaries. Should be running both pairs of primaries & having the secondaries of both carbs open when needed. I've done a few.
@BuddyRHS1965
@BuddyRHS1965 4 жыл бұрын
azmike1956, I had 3 -2 barrels on a competitive import many years ago and it was progressive linkage. Whole dif car and motor but, I think that set up was quite effective.
@azmike1956
@azmike1956 4 жыл бұрын
@@BuddyRHS1965 great setup if dialed in. Good mileage & performance too.
@Turbo4Joe363
@Turbo4Joe363 4 жыл бұрын
@@azmike1956 It runs on the front carb's primaries until about 1/3 open, then the progressive/slide linkage starts to open the rear carb's primaries. Carbs have vacuum secondaries with very light springs....so they open up quickly! Hang on!!!
@LimitedGunnerGM
@LimitedGunnerGM 4 жыл бұрын
It would be awesome to see the dollar amounts flash across the screen as each part is added.
@413x398
@413x398 4 жыл бұрын
I would also add appropriate sound effects, like cymbal crashes and such. Devastating Hiroshima footage upon intro of the cylinder block.
@sparkplug1018
@sparkplug1018 4 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting, but as the saying goes, if we have to ask...
@jp360ford2
@jp360ford2 4 жыл бұрын
@@sparkplug1018 I haven't hard that one, what's the rest of that saying?
@sparkplug1018
@sparkplug1018 4 жыл бұрын
@@jp360ford2 Oh I'm sure you've heard it many times before.
@vengeanceizmine9878
@vengeanceizmine9878 4 жыл бұрын
You only need to know that when YOU are paying for it.. lol.
@JeromyBranch
@JeromyBranch 4 жыл бұрын
I love that intake and capstan throttle. I remember the old Indycar 289's with the Webers bolted directly to the heads (Bobby Unser won in 68 using this). This engine is beautiful just like that. Awesome build!
@CharlesOffenhauser
@CharlesOffenhauser 3 жыл бұрын
Unser's car was powered be a turbo Offy in 1068.
@CharlesOffenhauser
@CharlesOffenhauser 3 жыл бұрын
1968
@josephsouza9951
@josephsouza9951 11 ай бұрын
Ford did build a competitive V-8 thing it was a joint venture between Ford & Cosworth
@jakemyler8524
@jakemyler8524 3 жыл бұрын
I don't see how this channel doesn't have 500,000+ sub. Outstanding video quality and content!
@TheHorsepowerMonster
@TheHorsepowerMonster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, and thanks for watching!
@tomnekuda3818
@tomnekuda3818 4 жыл бұрын
Man, if I could just touch that engine, I'd never wash my hands again!!! That thing's a work of art. I've built (3) side-oilers in 427 configuration but they were nothing like this thing! Love that "Weber look-alike" injection intake......I built a Chevy with 42 DCOE's years ago and when you whacked open those side-drafts that engine would just MOAN.....whadda sound. Guys would pull me over just to look at that cross-ram intake. Listening to them was better than love.......!
@MoparGuy-x1r
@MoparGuy-x1r Ай бұрын
I'm a Mopar man in my mid 30s but my uncle was a Ford man and built some just awesome 390s 428s but the one engine I remember the most he still has in his cobra and that's a genuine side oiler 427. They just sound and run so damn good.
@lars277
@lars277 3 жыл бұрын
What a great FE engine build. Not over the top, just a sane representation of an engine from yesteryear. I like the square bore to stroke ratio.
@cutty-mg3kf
@cutty-mg3kf 4 жыл бұрын
I love the attention to detail on this engine build good work Prestige!
@willyphast2509
@willyphast2509 2 жыл бұрын
nice to see that ford fe still getting some respect. thanks for this one fellaz,,
@NBFaded2497
@NBFaded2497 3 жыл бұрын
The first engine I helped work on was a 390 FE. My father is a huge fan of Ford and taught me very early on. He has had a few 390's. Today he still has a 410 FE which was a Mercury engine with a Comp cam and a 4 barrel Edelbrock carburetor.
@kencohagen4967
@kencohagen4967 4 жыл бұрын
When I was 8n High School our shop built 454’s, a 427 block with 428 crank and tunnel port heads. They were for a local dirt track racer and those motors kicked butt all season long!
@rrt5000
@rrt5000 4 жыл бұрын
Tunnel port heads were wicked. My dad had a 427 with them. 12:1 and it sent his 56 ford down the 1/4 in 11.63 with .500 lift cam. No roller rockers or anything.
@robertclymer6948
@robertclymer6948 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I was drooling thinking of this motor in my 67 Mustang instead of the mild built 460. Maybe if I hit the lottery..... someday. Cheers from Motown.
@mountnman3609
@mountnman3609 4 жыл бұрын
Slap a set of Kaase p-51 heads on the 460. Probably good for 100 hp It's a Mustang. Put Kaase's Boss Nine heads on it.
@timewarpvideo6244
@timewarpvideo6244 4 жыл бұрын
Love the classic iron. Keep old engines alive!
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 4 жыл бұрын
Its alu, not iron :D
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 4 жыл бұрын
@Lex Riordan if its brow - its clay, if its blue - its shit. Right? :)
@chrishamilton2559
@chrishamilton2559 4 жыл бұрын
W. T. F.
@rickycollins4633
@rickycollins4633 4 жыл бұрын
Good statement about the head studs or any stud screwed into the block. So many builders try to torque them in and find out the hard way when a crack is found in the area of the stud.
@sparkplug1018
@sparkplug1018 4 жыл бұрын
That bothers me seeing that too, I've always run them down till they bottom out and back off just a touch. Never had any issues, so far anyway.
@scottlambeth5478
@scottlambeth5478 3 жыл бұрын
Only one thing I would have done different. I would have used a Cleveland intake manifold adapter. There's a much larger selection of manifold choices for Clevelands including a tunnel ram like you used, AND if you ever needed to take the intake back off you wouldn't need to disassemble part of the valve train.
@Sainted1973
@Sainted1973 2 жыл бұрын
For an old dinosaur they were not only powerful they took a ton of abuse even in their stock form from the factory. all 10:1+ compression versions made good power for their era. Seen many sit on rev limiter or near for minutes at a time and keep on a running. You look at gm's modern Ls there's similarities that a builder can't deny.
@antilaw9911
@antilaw9911 3 жыл бұрын
When i was real young, am 57, i was chevy. Then guy pulled up in back alley with a hot car.... Whats that car? Its a 69 roadrunner built 400hp 383 etc... I never heard of mopar or Chrysler stuff. I was bit by the mopar bug. Still love mopar. Got out of car stuff for some years and when you observe from different perspective, you learn to appreciate things you ignored. I was a ford hater then! But i got back into cars and love them all! Ford, chevy, mopar, Buick, Pontiac etc. All American muscle! Ford makes some badass engines and the FE is a very pretty looking engine! I love the 427! Give me a 67 fairlane with a 427 please!! 👍
@chrisbali5246
@chrisbali5246 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to your channel and Prestige.You can tell the care and quality put in to everything.Great job!
@dadfood3504
@dadfood3504 4 жыл бұрын
Prestige Motorsports knows their business. They build some awesome engines.
@prestigemotorsports
@prestigemotorsports 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot sir!
@markperry2827
@markperry2827 4 жыл бұрын
Prestige built my stroker 302 to 500 hp. Real Deal
@olderthanyoucali8512
@olderthanyoucali8512 3 жыл бұрын
Horsepower has improved greatly! Beautiful engine and interesting build, haven't seen any of their programs that I haven't liked since I started watching it again. Good job.
@Bbba724
@Bbba724 2 жыл бұрын
I would put a VictorEFI and a 78/ 75 to 82 VS billet turbo fo have a daily driver 15 lbs of boost and 1015 hp. That’s what I want!
@GorillaCookies
@GorillaCookies 2 жыл бұрын
I built a a 445 fe stroker for my 65 Hallett Flat bottom V drive for a bunch less than half the price of this one I bet. And It flywheel dynoed 584 HP @ 5600 and 591 ft lbs at 4200 rpm. I used a 74 FE 360 truck block , forged crankshaft and H beam rods with summit pistons , ported Edelbrock heads I bought used but in great shape and a old Street master intake and Holley 850 cfm carb and a Comp Cams 268 H cam. There's nothing left on the table with the parts being used giving every drop of HP & torque they can provide. But it's how the tuning , porting and minor details involved that made the thing a wicked NA Ford FE. I took the advice of a Older Drag racer with decades of Squeezing everything from a FE they could give. It's smart to pay attention to those who paved the way for the rest of us
@erniecamp6945
@erniecamp6945 3 жыл бұрын
Oh how I would love to have that baby in a Ford GT 40. Yah, blue with white strips -American racing colors!
@stephengrant2677
@stephengrant2677 4 жыл бұрын
Weslake heads on shelbys 289 put out 689 ponies on his cobra. Amazing stuff
@scottyjones27
@scottyjones27 4 жыл бұрын
I seen a Shelby program on t.v. while back n old man Shelby said that was is favorite set up for cobra's but Ford wanted to use those bigger fe engine, Shelby said big engine had to use big brakes big trans big everything then cobra weight to much then messed up handling n traction!! Small 289 engine was all cobra ever needed to beat up on every European car!!
@64fairlane305
@64fairlane305 4 жыл бұрын
@@scottyjones27 1: the Weslake-heads was not an option in 65/66 2: it was not Shelby or Ford that decided this but Holman-Moody CA US who rebuilt the GT40 into the MkII
@MixedGoku
@MixedGoku 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful video, well narrated
@TheHorsepowerMonster
@TheHorsepowerMonster 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much, and thanks for watching!
@deanstevenson6527
@deanstevenson6527 4 жыл бұрын
The Horsepower Monster : Gracious thankyou for sharing. Its not all about Dolly Parton attributes on the Torque and Power curves and what not. Its about the shear enjoyment of how a nice aluminum FE 482 with steel liners will go together and just last a lifetime in a the owners ride. The Vertical and Horizontal are controlled by the bill payer, and its awfully easy to mess up an alloy engine. Prestigue did the hard part. Incidently, I remember being critical about power figures on a 200 Ford six with Classic Inlines head. Now I realise what a jerk I was seeing how I responded to the 501 hp gross at 5400rpm figure. Sorry. We all need to realise the bill payer makes that choice. Not Us!
@michaelrandell4021
@michaelrandell4021 Жыл бұрын
I like the old school look. And how clean the set up is.
@Mike-d7d4w
@Mike-d7d4w 3 ай бұрын
The FE was a great engine. I find this build on the mild side. Very durable.
@207BigGameoutdoors
@207BigGameoutdoors 4 жыл бұрын
That block is a bad ass piece
@timdixon9224
@timdixon9224 4 жыл бұрын
Block 4500+ , rotating assembly 3500 or so. Heads 2200 or so and the list goes on. Yeah its worth it You should see them run.
@hansanderson6607
@hansanderson6607 3 жыл бұрын
Well, for well over 10 grand, it SHOULD run well. Personally, I think that it is too much for a street motor that only makes 500 hp. Yeah, it's pretty, but I would prefer more power over a "prettier" and a more reliable engine. I guess it depends on whether this is a serious "street" motor or a "poser".
@ivananderzen5287
@ivananderzen5287 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are like powernation, but with cooler builds. No hate to powernation, they just always do big block chevys
@TheHorsepowerMonster
@TheHorsepowerMonster 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks a lot! And thanks for watching!
@kennyfisher8014
@kennyfisher8014 8 ай бұрын
I Built a 427 Standard Bore, SCAT 4.125 , EAGLE ( 6.8 ) , 10.00 to 1 , EDELBROCK Heads+ 8.30 c.f.m. WINSTON CUP ANULAR , Major Adjustments to Carb. SIMPLE FE , Made 517 H.P. , FUN in a 1957 CUSTOM “FORD” ! 😳🤪🙃💯, ATI Reverse Trans, 4.500 Stahl
@jw4620
@jw4620 4 жыл бұрын
A fine power assembly!
@c_buerger7673
@c_buerger7673 4 жыл бұрын
Larry built my pops a small block mopar back when he had his own shop in St. Peters, MO. Good to see he's still building engines. I still have one of his Broekers engines stickers on my fridge
@n5ifi
@n5ifi 4 жыл бұрын
My God what a torque curve.
@samuelweiss4548
@samuelweiss4548 4 жыл бұрын
Yessss! Keep these coming, love seeing all the different recipes and build combos!
@TheHorsepowerMonster
@TheHorsepowerMonster 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. And thanks for watching!
@robertelmo7736
@robertelmo7736 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHorsepowerMonster I would love to see someone put together a nasty NA 400 cubic Coyote off of that billet block...just throwing that out there. Would be great in a lightweight Cobra. Turn about 9k lol....
@TheHorsepowerMonster
@TheHorsepowerMonster 4 жыл бұрын
That would be a fun engine build. It seems that around me at least, not many people are doing full-bore Coyote builds. Most that I'm aware of are just putting boost to a stock long block. But you are right, that would make for a great video. Thanks for watching!
@ranger-3.0V6
@ranger-3.0V6 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHorsepowerMonster ... How about a stroker Ford SOHC 427 with a Super Victor mani and a 1050 Brawler?
@hockeymann88
@hockeymann88 Жыл бұрын
Awesome components and a beautiful looking engine. Perfect specs for the application.
@mrdaykurutakuchannel
@mrdaykurutakuchannel 4 жыл бұрын
Cool motor, especially with the ITB!!
@dragoonTT
@dragoonTT 4 жыл бұрын
Clean shop, clean build, can’t ask for more
@saratoga123321
@saratoga123321 19 күн бұрын
Driving the rod caps with an impact is wild
@coreyrowe2052
@coreyrowe2052 4 жыл бұрын
Love watching these builds!
@TheHorsepowerMonster
@TheHorsepowerMonster 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@turbo32coupe
@turbo32coupe 4 жыл бұрын
I built same engine 12 yrs. ago. It has Shelby block, Ported Edelbrock heads with 2.25/1.75 valves. 10.8 CR. Cam is 248/256, .625/.646 Solid Roller. 4 IDA fuel injected TB with Megasquirt III. Made 550 hp at 5900 rpm and 600 ft.lbs torque on 93 octane pump gas. Smooth idle at 650 rpm. Propelled my 68 Mustang (full interior) to 7.1 sec.1/8 mile. You are strangling the motor with too little head, and too little cam. Pics available.
@luketeverino6085
@luketeverino6085 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly no reason this engine shouldn’t make 550+ hp
@deanstevenson6527
@deanstevenson6527 4 жыл бұрын
Luke Teverino : Yes there is. Cam, heads, throttle body EFi and its an alloy engine. Anyone who has ever built one will know you dont start playing hardball untill youve gotten some base figures in. 501 at 5400 rpm is just fine, but I know where Id find another 130 ponies and a lot of extra torque. Great engine build.Thanks for sharing.
@luketeverino6085
@luketeverino6085 4 жыл бұрын
Dean Stevenson well obviously, I’m just saying an engine that big they could have easily built it to make more power but didn’t.
@turbo32coupe
@turbo32coupe 4 жыл бұрын
Mine is a 4.25" bore with a 428 CJ crank -- 452 cu. in. Any decent engine should make 1.2 HP/ cu. in. and 1.2 to 1.4 lb. ft/ cu. in. This engine with Trick Flow Heads and a decent cam should make nearly 600 hp and at least 580 lb.ft. torque.
@deanstevenson6527
@deanstevenson6527 4 жыл бұрын
turbo32coupe and Luke Teverino: According to Stan Weiss et al, the heal over point where power and rpm are made is based on port area and valve lift, and actual port Cfm through the inlet at that lift. It is not Cfm but throttle body size that is pegging power back. The advent of Split Dominator carbs on SOHC 427s in 1970 was because of a very big problem finding traditional Injection and Weber carb sizes in the desired 1-7/8 to 3 inch sizes which make real power. . Past 342 cubic inches on domestic V8s, any Independent Thottle Body/ Isolated Runner/ Port on Port engine in the 45 to 61 cube, 3/4 to 1 liter.cylinder size will have to go psychotic in port size and Throttle body size to get even get past 550 hp. 48 mm throttles without a specific cam and port size will start to top out at just 444hp. To just get a gain, you have to move to 50 and perhaps 55 mm to get 685 hp at as little as 5700 rpm..
@sergiovazquez9259
@sergiovazquez9259 4 жыл бұрын
FE! Absolutely beautiful
@cavscout62
@cavscout62 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful intelligent build which will make great, long living power and absolutely yank a lightweight vehicle down the road like a shot out of a cannon. Outstanding!💪
@narmale
@narmale 3 жыл бұрын
loool if you think this is an intelligent build... shoulda made WAAAY more power, this is typical lego builders and buying the most expensive stuff that looks cool
@cavscout62
@cavscout62 3 жыл бұрын
@@narmale - Exactly why it’s an intelligent build. Way more power than needed for what it’s going into and because it’s not a max power build it will live forever.
@narmale
@narmale 3 жыл бұрын
@@cavscout62 its going to live forever because it wont be driven but a few hundred miles a year if that... the seals are going to dry rot before they are worn any
@AndrewDRoyappa
@AndrewDRoyappa 3 жыл бұрын
Insanely smooth sounding for a V8
@goodboyringo9716
@goodboyringo9716 3 жыл бұрын
These blocks are cast alum. Kirkham alum blocks are from a 380 lb alum slab and after cnc weight is 64lb. This engine does look great.
@deere3321
@deere3321 3 жыл бұрын
This would pull my trailer nicely...
@kennethchapman9564
@kennethchapman9564 4 жыл бұрын
I have had and built for others several FE motors and love them also like the 385 monster cubes motors too. Latest project is putting a Kasse head 598 in a 98 Mustang GT
@cheesenoodles8316
@cheesenoodles8316 4 жыл бұрын
All eight butterflies......beautiful.
@davidortiz173
@davidortiz173 2 жыл бұрын
What an absolute gem if a street motor! How much for the Shelby aluminum block?
@2brentm
@2brentm 4 жыл бұрын
Great videos, love to watch your Pro's assemble, very informative. A couple of questions, issues. Why a solid roller on an engine that peaks at 5400? Also, Edelbrock's for Fe's (esp. unported) aren't that great and are choking that motor. On such a high end build why not use a good head? ie: Survival, Bear Block, TFS, Shelby? Sorry, but 500hp out of a 482" FE with all that expensive hardware is kinda weak IMHO.
@narmale
@narmale 3 жыл бұрын
kinda? its VERY weak... this motor should make 800+ we run a 427 clevor with CHI heads that blows this thing outa the water at all points, torque, HP and millage... you shoulda known by the thumbnail they dont know what they are doing, harland sharp rockers on a 7500 block?
@ONTHEEDGEFRED
@ONTHEEDGEFRED 3 жыл бұрын
I kind of got the impression that they were overbuilding the entire engine for reliability, they mentioned they weren't looking for all out horsepower.
@Matt44magnum44
@Matt44magnum44 3 жыл бұрын
Well it is a Ford lol!
@2brentm
@2brentm 3 жыл бұрын
@@Matt44magnum44Yes, the Ford that won Lemans 4 times.
@RSDX99
@RSDX99 3 жыл бұрын
My bone stock Side Oiler with Medium riser heads was OK in my Contemporary Cobra but when I went with a 408 Dart with AFR heads and showed 615 HP on the dyno I was pissing all over those Fe side oilers. BTW many Cobra racers say the 351 and its bigger brothers are the best performing engines in a Cobra. You can find all the Fe Cobras you want at any car show but the racers are running small blocks on the track.
@chriskellogg8311
@chriskellogg8311 Жыл бұрын
Amazing and Educational Video 🙌🏼😎🎉
@jeffrey4547
@jeffrey4547 4 жыл бұрын
i just love the fe block putting a 390 in my high boy i like the part about not needing to not power break it i had a 396 in a nova and a guy tells me to power break it i just said y hurt my breaks so i gave it 3/4 throttle and i was just sitting there laying rubber sad part was i had a factory paint job and vinale top yeh that went good rubber every were burnt rubber doesn't come off paint and vinale very well
@tinkmarshino
@tinkmarshino 4 жыл бұрын
I remember the all aluminum engines of the late 60's and 70's.. what a troublesome machine some of them were especially if you got them to hot.. Damn what a bitchen looking mill you got there brother! thanks this was fun!
@cobracharmer6178
@cobracharmer6178 4 жыл бұрын
tinkmarshino ; How on earth do you overheat an all aluminum engine?
@tinkmarshino
@tinkmarshino 4 жыл бұрын
@@cobracharmer6178 it was done.. you would have to ask the designer.. but it doesn't seem all that hard to me.. aluminum heats quickly and if you do not dissipate the heat it will warp and distort easily.. ever try to weld aluminum? I have and do.. give it a try you will see just what I am talking about.. But I do see your dilemma it does kind of seem counter productive considering all the aluminum parts we use today.
@alexlambert5830
@alexlambert5830 3 жыл бұрын
I need one of these in my life
@Happyfacehotwheels
@Happyfacehotwheels 4 жыл бұрын
That's a beautiful engine. I would be proud to put that in my Chevy! 😁
@salvadordollyparton666
@salvadordollyparton666 4 жыл бұрын
There is not a chevy chassis on the planet worthy... 😒 And it surely won't fit your cavalier.
@Happyfacehotwheels
@Happyfacehotwheels 4 жыл бұрын
@@salvadordollyparton666 Don't be mad at me because you drive a Hyundai. It will fit Nice in my 2wd 94 Silverado. I'm just deciding on what transmission I'll be using.😎
@Rampant_Colt
@Rampant_Colt 4 жыл бұрын
I think that is the most beautiful engine! Will it fit in my Focus?
@philosophicalfloridaman
@philosophicalfloridaman 4 жыл бұрын
All it takes is money
@mrdaykurutakuchannel
@mrdaykurutakuchannel 4 жыл бұрын
Full drivetrain conversion to FR configuration or put it in the middle.
@fordnut4914
@fordnut4914 4 жыл бұрын
Enough j.b weld it will fit perfectly.
@thomasfisher2879
@thomasfisher2879 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a Tail Gunner, we would have Fighter Intercepts with F-106's... Speedy airframe.
@Rampant_Colt
@Rampant_Colt 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasfisher2879 B-52 i presume? The Six is my favorite jet fighter
@mwhitelaw8569
@mwhitelaw8569 4 жыл бұрын
This would be a perfect replacement for my 406 in my mud truck
@johnsmith-qz4bv
@johnsmith-qz4bv 4 жыл бұрын
awesome setup love those stacks..
@iamlightfoot
@iamlightfoot 3 жыл бұрын
That is a Beautiful piece of Tech! I was glued to the Screen for the Build! What would a Build like that cost Me?
@TrojanHorse1959
@TrojanHorse1959 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and build, thank you!
@TheHorsepowerMonster
@TheHorsepowerMonster 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And thanks for watching!
@bravofoxable
@bravofoxable 4 жыл бұрын
This is just perfect and will last a looooong time. Good job 👍🏻
@mylanmiller9656
@mylanmiller9656 4 жыл бұрын
It may be pretty to look at but the power numbers are sad for the dollars spent. That big of an engine with high dollar parts should be pulling 700 hp!
@Bbba724
@Bbba724 2 жыл бұрын
@@mylanmiller9656 I agree, my 394 ci with a Holley SD. A Holley 3310-3 with a metering block in place of the plate. With jets all around and 2.055/1.6 exhaust valves and a a good valve job with a little touch on the SSR and the intake manifold ports so the hook the direction of those ‘64 352 heads and a 230@.050 solid cam. I have dynoed it at 503 hp at 6700. and 463 ft lbs at 4200 and444@ 3000 where my stall is. The cost to build inc machine work was $ 2200. I would put a turbo behold the header with a cross pipe and a bonnet over the carb with the air/ air intercooler in the floor of the car. Show the Scatpack boys who’s boss. With a 1014 hp at the crank and a manual trans is. 857 at the wheels, run a single 4 inch straight out the side, and cruise around under the boost curve and when you hit the whistle let that modern magic do its job.
@Bbba724
@Bbba724 2 жыл бұрын
In fact I have a 3 rib (like the CJ/SCJ) FT 391 block that has the 105 mark. I have a 428 crank and a CapSaddle that ties the center 3 Mains together. The drill bit test showed 3/16 between the bores. Indicating that 4.13 is possible, if not I have a 3.79 FT steel crank that could be offset ground to 3.89. and bore it to 4.098, for 410 ci. 2.2 rod journals, 6.7 rods , 1.72 r/s. 245@.050 .588 hyd roller. VS 7875 with 10 lbs boost with 545 hp na, 915 hp fw. 776 at the wheels. I think that the stock block can do that with a rising boost curve. That would be fun with a Summit turbo and home made piping. I have good headers and just make a 2.5 crossover and mount the turbo to kick a 4 inch pipe straight out the side. It would be as quiet as a Harley until you get hard on the whistle. 10 lbs of boost isn’t a lot.
@WRMonger1
@WRMonger1 4 жыл бұрын
I had a 67 Fairlane 500 with a 390 backed up with a C6, I loved that car. Rebuilt the motor from the ground up into a GT and it hauled that heavy chassis without breaking a sweat. Originally I thought that the stroke was too long but grew to appreciate how it curved the power band at the (relatively) higher RPM range - FE blocks aren’t famous for their hi revs. Down shifted too hard, punched it and blew the crankshaft right out of the bottom. Took a big chunk of the block with the crankshaft regardless of the “cross bolt” mains. It was a phenomenal failure but I’m still a fan of this engine 👍
@charleslum2438
@charleslum2438 2 жыл бұрын
390 didn't have cross bolted mains. Only later 427s. I've built many Fe engines from 332-428 and have gotten 7000 rpm out of a hydraulic cam 428 with 300 degrees of duration and 520 lift and stock non-adjustable factory rockers. Had 3 holleys from a 406 and it made my 500hp coyote mustang feel sick. 7000rpm big motors make serious power for street use and this thing was in a 68 Falcon. At one time I had a single 850 with f427b intake on it with a 150 shot and although quick it was no match for the 3x2 Holley setup. That setup was king on the street. Built my last Fe last summer at CMS racing engines. Customer wanted solid cam so he bought so cheap roller rockers,all FEs are shaft but these wouldn't line up with the valves correctly being of Chinese origin evidently,it cost him more in the work I had to do in milling,shiming, checking position and clearance than if he had bought good ones to start with. We tried to tell him but he wanted to save money and wound up spending more and got inferior parts. . I think the weakest link in these engines are the stock oil pans and lack of oil volume because they have a starvation problem in during hard acceleration and cornering from oil leaving the pickup. A good pan and these engines are as tough as any and can make obscene power if you know the right combination.
@MsKatjie
@MsKatjie 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work.
@CorbinGoodwin
@CorbinGoodwin 4 жыл бұрын
My brain: cool build and totally get it but the intake seems pretty mismatched from a powerband emphasis point of view My heart: OH YEAH ITBs BABY YEEHAW
@drtb69
@drtb69 4 жыл бұрын
The Ford FE is called a Big Block. Ford started the design in the mid 50's 332 and refined and kept increasing displacement to 352 360 390 406 410 427 428 all the way to 1968. Many modern engines especially the LS engines , as well as other modular engine designs borrow heavily from the FE. Design cues are apparent -- such as::: 6 bolt or cross bolted mains, deep skirt block to enclose the crank for more rigidity, support and strength, all while saving weight. Huge deep breathing cylinder heads. ..and on and on....ad nauseum.
@dailylife3975
@dailylife3975 3 жыл бұрын
My dad had a 1950 Ford truck that he pulled the 4-cylinder out and put a 352 Cleveland in it and had that truck for years and then sold it I miss that truck it was cool
@947plan
@947plan 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and great tips. I would have used a Kaase head and intake combo as John gets way more HP out of an FE than this build did. FE's are quirky. Set up right and they rock. One oops and they are turds. I'd want this short block with superior heads and intake. After all if the short block will hold together the magic is in the heads/intake. More airflow (with fuel obviously) more power.
@TheHorsepowerMonster
@TheHorsepowerMonster 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words
@CraigCatapano
@CraigCatapano Жыл бұрын
Great video and great production, just really wish you told us what its gonna be dropped in....Cobra? Mustang?
@hotrod7938
@hotrod7938 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty good numbers for the small cam. 👍
@danieldonahue3293
@danieldonahue3293 4 жыл бұрын
WOW...DREAM ENGINE NICEST PARTS EVER 529TQ TIRE BURNER thanks for vid!
@markc7842
@markc7842 4 жыл бұрын
Looks awesome, just thinking of having it in Shelby Cobra kit car.
@markperry2827
@markperry2827 4 жыл бұрын
Haha...this is the point where the uninitiated have a tendency to soil themselves
@ineffable1129
@ineffable1129 4 жыл бұрын
If you have very deep pockets, most go with the stroker 427 made from a small block or a coyote, they only weigh from 2000-2200lbs.
@DataWaveTaGo
@DataWaveTaGo 3 жыл бұрын
Another superb presentation!!!
@TheHorsepowerMonster
@TheHorsepowerMonster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@franklynpertuz7669
@franklynpertuz7669 2 жыл бұрын
That was fantastic thanks a lot appreciate it all showing these nice videos about these engines
@roberthillsjr.3729
@roberthillsjr.3729 4 жыл бұрын
And its a FORD
@thecustommuffler
@thecustommuffler 3 жыл бұрын
The FE I may go in to say, the best sounding cammed motor ever made, just phucin hardore power
@guitarsword1
@guitarsword1 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video, engine and build. Tnx
@TheHorsepowerMonster
@TheHorsepowerMonster 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! And thanks for watching
@pyleup
@pyleup 4 жыл бұрын
I wish this build had CNC ported heads it would have been over 600 HP with no down side.
@ranger-3.0V6
@ranger-3.0V6 4 жыл бұрын
It would have seen 575 hp with AFR heads, unported.
@williamsanders468
@williamsanders468 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah there is so much more power left in this build
@baby-sharkgto4902
@baby-sharkgto4902 4 жыл бұрын
It wasn't a max effort build.
@salvadordollyparton666
@salvadordollyparton666 4 жыл бұрын
😒
@vengeanceizmine9878
@vengeanceizmine9878 4 жыл бұрын
Sure there is, it's called "higher rpm" to achieve a little more power. How does more rpm and higher peaks fit into the plan when you are building for lower rpm and torque?? You do realize bigger heads require more rpm don't you?
@wethepeople1909
@wethepeople1909 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else dreaming about a wicked a$$ cobra coupe project?
@007galaxie
@007galaxie 4 жыл бұрын
What a pretty sweet sounding FE \m/
@stickit2theman1
@stickit2theman1 3 жыл бұрын
"Hey how much does one of those things retail?" "More than you can afford, PAL"
@troycollins4051
@troycollins4051 3 жыл бұрын
Not a Ferrari
@theflyingscotsman9902
@theflyingscotsman9902 3 жыл бұрын
If you have a real job it's no problem !😉
@manitoublack
@manitoublack 4 жыл бұрын
😁😁😁😁😁 ITB's 😁😁😁😁 What an engine build $$$. Great to see the dyno with all the accessories in place. That's a real number. Still surprised it makes peak power so low in the rev range? imagine if it had a cam to let is sing past 7,500RPM!!
@reallifehardtruth4465
@reallifehardtruth4465 4 жыл бұрын
7500 rpm will introduce reliability issues with the valve train. All aluminum construction has some drawbacks. Thermal expansion being one of them.
@turbo32coupe
@turbo32coupe 4 жыл бұрын
@@reallifehardtruth4465 aluminum isn't a problem because the block and heads are both aluminum. Block is good past 1000 hp. Have to set the lash hot.
@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443
@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 4 жыл бұрын
@@reallifehardtruth4465 Aluminum blocks are tough as hell. Production Teksid modular blocks are handling 2,500+hp in Pro 10.5 trim.
@markpatterson2507
@markpatterson2507 4 жыл бұрын
Hi from up in Greensboro....great vid,awesome engine too!
@jp360ford2
@jp360ford2 4 жыл бұрын
Need that motor rev as a ringtone, my gawd! Excellent video 👌
@stevenJEDI3
@stevenJEDI3 2 жыл бұрын
Really nice looking engine and block the only thing I thought let it down was the Heads not being ported they looked very average castings and a head gasket looked a bit cheap and nasty I would’ve opted for a multilayered head gasket Other than that really nice build
@tedsmith3061
@tedsmith3061 2 жыл бұрын
I swing both ways, Chevy or, Ford. They both have legendary stats. Both American made. No need to choose one. Choose both. Anyways this really is an extraordinary build. And very "detuned". This little monster in its hottest configuration would make more than triple this power.
@walterbkeen
@walterbkeen Жыл бұрын
Have a 68 cyclone gt 4speed this woud go nicely with. It's way too rough to worry about originality, but that makes it perfect for fun upgrades.
@Vladgore007
@Vladgore007 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome engine 💪💪👍👍👍👍👍👍
@Bbba724
@Bbba724 2 жыл бұрын
The FE is the best engine I have ever built. They can be expensive if you make them that way, but I can do a stroker kit FT block at 4.125 bore and 4.25 stroke and a good set of Trick Flow , BBM, Survival, ported Edelbrock and the right cam you can get 650 hp . If it sonics good enough you can get a 4.15 bore. 461 ci and 700 hp if you can control it.
@dwoaks1
@dwoaks1 4 жыл бұрын
I like it. I can't afford it but I like it.
@shanerorko8076
@shanerorko8076 3 жыл бұрын
I know I'm not going to sound nice, but. Looking at that dyno graph shows that the power is lower than torque which is an indication of a mild engine. Yes I know it's meant to be mild but I bet the missing 50 to 60hp to level the graph out would be in some good gead work. When you're building an alloy block why wouldn't you get the heads hand ported and a good valve job?
@rickjohnson1632
@rickjohnson1632 4 жыл бұрын
It does sound good I must say 👍
@leathers970
@leathers970 4 жыл бұрын
I need this in my life
@samrodian919
@samrodian919 3 жыл бұрын
Wicked engine!
@JustinSmithPYRO
@JustinSmithPYRO 4 жыл бұрын
Man I'd love to have this in my 82 GT. If only i had the money lol.
@jaybird57
@jaybird57 4 жыл бұрын
I want to see what a set of tunnel port heads and tunnel ram would do on this bottom end?
@narmale
@narmale 3 жыл бұрын
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