Building the World's Fastest After Effects Computer

[@MultiMam12345]

If the Davinci Resolve team would rewrite After Effects code it would be 4 times faster on hardware that is 4 times slower. Adobe development is the real issue here.

[@eirendiaz9003]

Agreed

[@josephnicklo2994]

Exactly. Resolve is insanely well optimized, but I wouldn't use it to replace AE...yet. I've definitely removed Premiere from my workflow completely.

[@MultiMam12345]

Joseph Nicklo Its not a replacement indeed. Its just amazing what they did with Davinci in such a short time period. The video editor is the best hybrid of everything great about avid, premiere and fcpx . If Adobe would have half of that commitment they wouldn't have to release beta quality 'releases' to their montly paying customers. All they care about is subscriptions and 'new features are more important than stability and optimization as a consequence. I think the only reason they still exist is because after effects , illustrator, photoshop ( and acrobat ) are industry standards :)

[@yannistath]

Totally agree, adobe is caring more for MACs optimization. Im rendering and my 9900 cpu is at 12% usage. These days i think more and more artists switching to PC and adobe is staying behind. Im really starting to think thats on purpose

[@MultiMam12345]

Trust me. Its just as bad on OSX. Windows and OSX both have good and bad properties. Personally i care the most about the OS. And OSX is a fantastic OS under the hood. Most artists i know dont want to spend time on building computers and keep them running. They need to get shit done Windows simply requires more computer skills from the user to keep stuff going on the long term. Personally i would be happy to have less specs for my money when i can have a flawless davinci/fcpx workflow running on unix. But for motion graphics and 3D work pc's are the best choice in most cases

[@joshgriffin4149]

"We tend to not go really high on the GPU for After Effects" - installs RTX 2080 😂

[@madnessgraphics]

But only one...

[@James-Purdy]

Yeah I mean, it's not like a quadro, only a measly RTX 2080 😂

[@jeus_saaa]

It's not even a 2080Ti so I guess they're sort of right

[@b3at2]

Josh Griffin he could have gone titan rtx

[@oiganamitio]

He was talking about Quadro Gpus.

[@harishkumaru8911]

Linus: Hold my beer

[@DarkMuzishn]

Linus should see this🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@EBKNashriGoonz]

Linus numba wan

[@juanrozo7781]

Who is Linus?

[@007bahbahdonkey]

@@juanrozo7781 LinusTechTips, He'd take this as a challenge and want to smash it out the park. Probably costing far too much money and wasting a lot of his and his staff's time on it hahahaha

[@sleepywavyboi7022]

Linus thr type of guy who overclocks his lawn mower..

[@nw5992]

In other words the AE is the main bottle neck. How is after effects STILL not optimized for more threads and GPUs yet?

[@zerbah]

After Effects is getting slower in rendering - the CS6 was faster than the latest CC with its stupid rendering system of running an instance of AE for each thread XD Not to mention that in the day when everybody is working on GPU rendering, it is really not transparent what Adobe is using GPU for in AE...

[@nw5992]

@@zerbah Crazy. They need some competitors to put a fire under them. They wouldn't update PS worth a crap until all the mobile apps rocked them.

[@prismalglue]

its so dumb that it uses one core and only cpu to get faster. i do crazy physical renders on my pc but its a pain to make a simple animation in after effetcs..

[@prismalglue]

@@zerbah ''hardware accelerated panels'' xD

[@JoelDashReed]

Because cheap managers, and lazy devs. ._.

[@SworlDotBe]

One might also conclude that Adobes poor multicore performance and gpu acceleration makes otherwise fast computers slow at AfterEffects.

[@goku21youtub]

one might also conclude that becasue nuke and fusion are no bit faster , slower even , that these demanding tasks are just hard to optimize ???

[@Nikola_Botev]

From a scaling stand point a Ryzen 2700x clocked at 4.15GHz scores overall score: 827 Standard Score: 87.6 C4D Score: 66.2 Tracking Score of 89.4, 100% more expensive CPU for 19% uplift. If you need a best AE PC sure, but if you are making a business this is too much of a premium for it to scale efficiently.

[@jambononi]

Yes but if that 19% is the difference between getting a job done in 1 day versus two or three because the system is too slow to watch playback etc. You can't judge it by literally numbers. It's not that clear. If you need a job done, it might be 5% computing power that changes whether your life is a nightmare or not.

[@MrMovieMan941]

Me: Hey adobe I have a problem, in latest version of premiere pro I can't edit 4k videos anymore. Playback is laggy and cpu usage is 99%. Adobe: Well your pc must be very weak for 4k videos. 4k videos are very demanding. Me: You didn't read what I wrote above I said "I can't edit 4k videos anymore". I could edit 4k videos with real time playback at full resolution in previous version. Adobe: Try to make new priject and put your files in it. Make sure that you have latest drivers! Me: I installed clean windows on new ssd and clean install of Premiere pro with latest drivers ofcourse! Adobe: .... Me: Hello can enyone help me? Adobe: .... Me and other 10000 people still waiting for answer from adobe....

[@SergeGolikov]

Someone at Adobe is always out to lunch, and that one, and ONLY one who can fix anything, is always on vacation, that's how the public service works, fat and lazy.

[@felixschwiderski]

Guys it's time to switch to resolve! I can edit 4K Video on my 1000€ Laptop without paying a kidney every month to Adobe.

[@MrMovieMan941]

I switched to Resolve editing 4k on a $450 used pc! UHD 25fps full resolution real time playback with a special effects and color grade :)

[@MrMovieMan941]

@Primavera Learn fusion you will be saved from headache :) Blackmagic actualy lIstens their consumers and otimizations are Godly I feel like a GOD when editing 4k lol it is so smooth. Now I can go out and use time to increase my productivity and not on renedring, waiting and crashing. My mind is at ease knowing that everything will work after I bring footage home :)

[@MrMovieMan941]

One more thing about optimization. Clean Install windows 10 pro built 1809 without internet. Turn off all updates and telemetry. Disable prefetch and super fetch services. Install graphic, sound and network driver (previuosly downloaded). I will make tutorial soon but you can find it on internet :)

[@allthingsmotion]

Great breakdown on components and needs, plus the video quality was superb!

[@mpower1063]

When You Buy $7,000 iMac 1500$ For Hardware, 5500$ For Apple Logo.

[@DarkMuzishn]

Ikr🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@caspa7]

I think the same goes for BMW's

[@dukkiegamer1733]

You're obviously making a joke but still. There's certainly a big difference in the amount of money needed to get a build of the same caliber but it's not $5500. Even if it were the same price I'd still go with a Windows PC since I can replace the parts myself and don't need to buy an entirely new PC.

[@skullerz7213]

@Hallucinogenichusky more like mac no sense

[@MrGameManIsCool]

It’s a pretty snazzy logo

[@denismallon2389]

This is a great guide for motion designers looking at hardware. Truthfully though, you don't really need all that much power to make "everyday" motion graphics. This PC I have from 2014 cost $1600 and is still pretty much fine for most things (especially 2D).

[@SamHuang69]

Totally agree, you can definitely get by without a computer that powerful, but than again the whole point of the video was to create the "World's Fastest After Effects Computer" lol

[@loepzuiver]

epic! Thanks for the shoutout Caleb! And congrats to Johnny Cache for beating our score.

[@schoolofmotion]

Ha! We gave you a shoutout in the article as well. Thank you so much for your help with this. :)

[@NathOnGames]

AE using higher frequency cores rather than taking advantage of multiple cores seems a little weird by today's standards. Especially with products like threadripper and CPUs now having higher core / thread counts.

[@themauriciobunch2442]

It's Adobe trying to lower costs by not ditching archaic, legacy code. They just keep on adding to the old code... Making it slower and clunkier.

[@montazownianr1]

@@themauriciobunch2442 Just like Windows, same shit.

[@goku21youtub]

no it doesnt , becasue the effects have to be computed in sequence and cannot be parallized that easy

[@JonathanAyers]

Two years later we have multi frame rendering :)

[@obadinatobi2352]

The contest is open to US residents only . I hope there will be similar opportunities for those of us from other countries....

[@schoolofmotion]

Unfortunately there were some limitations with shipping the computer. We definitely want to do more worldwide contests in the future.

[@obadinatobi2352]

OK no problems we kindly look forward to that. Thanks

[@MysteryPancake]

almost fast enough to use the ray traced renderer

[@TheGalacticWest]

almost fast enough to use lumetri.

[@dextrosity7350]

Almost fast enough to run marble marcher on high

[@beaconkeeper8598]

Rtx is built for ray tracing so I think its fast enough?

[@TheGalacticWest]

beacon keeper while this is nice to know this. The joke has gone straight over you.

[@ViralKiller]

lmao that feature has been unusable for 5 years

[@JajaborMusic]

Could you please name the music played from 00:00 to 00:35 seconds ?

[@kyokon1839]

Tunes Assam Mark David - Overnight Flow

[@kyokon1839]

Anvith Shetty I was trolling my dude sorry

[@ManservantPablo]

As soon as adobe optimizes for more cores, my comp will chew through this benchmark. I’m running a 2990wx 32 core monster!

[@nyborg6425]

Soon the 7nm arch is going to be even more cores at a higher clock.

[@ManservantPablo]

@@nyborg6425 Yep! I can't wait for that though unfortunately. Ryzen 3000 are still gonna be Zen + architecture, so we don't quite know when the Zen 2's will be out with the 7nm arch. Rumors are it will most definitely not be compatible with x399 boards either, so that will have to be a future upgrade for me!

[@nyborg6425]

​@@ManservantPablo 2990wx is a beast, X470 board is most likely the broad that it will be compatible, I built a x470 with a ryzen 2600 so I could get it up and going in wait of the 3000 series, then I will build a b450 with the 2600 after I swap it out.

[@Tomas-qn5im]

@@ManservantPablo Ryzen 3000 is Zen 2 and they should announce it on 27th at Computex and launch soon after that. Threadripper on zen 2 could be delayed to Q1 2020 or they could jump straight to Zen 3 mid to late 2020.

[@themauriciobunch2442]

Don't hold your breath....

[@ilhamsuhendi90]

AE: - High speed single core - A lot of RAM - get GTX not AMD PR: - Multi Core

[@MarketAndChurch]

In Puget Sound's own testing, there is not much difference between the RTX Titan, 2080, 2060, or Vega 64. Even Intel's own integrated graphics is not that far behind all of those GPU's, and this is because of After Effect's poor optimization. Now, if you're working on big projects with a lot of effects and Red Giant plugins, etc., and you can't afford a Quadro, your best option is the $700 AMD Radeon 7 because it has 16GB of memory, but if money is not a problem, then go for the $2,500 RTX Titan with its 24GB of memory, and the last graphics card I'd consider is the RTX 2080 Ti with 11GB of memory. Even the 2080 Ti's 11GB of memory can be an issue, so do not get a 2080 (which has 8GB of memory) unless your AE projects are simple and/or small.

[@haiderr]

They did not get AMD, they got a RTX.

[@Tomas-qn5im]

@@haiderr For non gaming purposes more than 8GB of VRAM is a better choice than 5% better performance.

[@sureiwill1302]

Premiere is Sonic compared to a snail called ae

[@goku21youtub]

@@sureiwill1302 ae is for compositing while premiere is JUST editing .. i hope you understand the difference ???

[@realmeee]

3ds max entered the chat . arnold render entered the chat . octane render entered the chat. cinema 4d entered the chat. [ admin ] adobe changes the group to private from public. after effect left the chat .

[@yonasfarah]

The production value is too serious. Good job to everyone who worked on this.

[@schoolofmotion]

Mike Pecci is a wizard.

[@AGuyCommenting]

Okay, I have a few questions/concerns regarding the choices made in this build (although, I'm sure a lot of it had to do with your budget): 1. Why not go with an i9-9980XE? It gives you so many more cores for higher performance in exporting as well as working in different programs that rely more on the CPU like Adobe Premiere. 2. Why use 2666MHz memory? I'm sure it's a safe RAM speed but surely you can go higher like 3200MHz or even more. 3. I do not agree with using your NVME SSD as your cache drive. That is your fastest drive and I feel it should be used as your primary boot drive for your OS and Adobe programs. Also, you could've gone with SSDs that have way more space. A Samsung 970 Pro (the NVME SSD) has a 1TB version and the Samsung 860 Pro (the SATA SSD) has a 4TB version that is currently 50% off at the time of this post. 4. I understand that Puget mentioned that they don't want to invest too much into the GPU so an RTX 2080 might very well be a decent choice instead of a 2080Ti or an RTX Quadro. But why not use 2 RTX 2080s? For a program like After Effects, I think you can get even closer to real-time RAM previews if you had more GPUs to work with. And with 2 GPUs, it gives you more leeway in terms of how much stress you throw at it. 5. As a PC enthusiast, I would've appreciated to have seen what choices were made in picking out the motherboard, power supply, cooling, and even the case. I understand that School of Motion is exclusively a motion design After Effects channel. But I personally feel that if you're going to want a system that's tailored to your work in After Effects, you're going to need to understand as much of PC building as you can and not just skimp out on a pre-built system or splurge on a Mac. At the end of the day, it was an interesting video. I just think you could've gone a little further when it came to PC specs.

[@wilsonmpesha904]

They said the speed of single core matters more than core count... gpu doesn't really matter... The Vram does. The software isn't optimised though.

[@schoolofmotion]

Really good points, but at the end of the day we are trying to maximize the build for After Effects. AE isn't going to benefit from 2 GPUs at the moment. Puget has amazing in-depth program specific breakdowns where they test between available computer parts. These guys back their knowledge up with case studies and hard numbers. If you'd like to figure out more reasoning behind the component choices we definitely suggest getting nerdy in their comparisons!

[@greghyatt1601]

Whoa! Has me rethinking my next build! I was waiting to see if Mac was going to release their rumored modular unit, but now have re-energized thoughts of a custom PC!

[@DarthDravvid]

So glad I came across this. I've got an 8 year old iMac and after the recent refresh from apple, I can't justify spending that much money for lackluster AE performance. Looking forward to building my own PC in a few months using this guide!

[@prowlhome6157]

I actually like having a slightly slower machine I’m forced to go out or do something else when it’s rendering

[@itsadamhamilton]

The iMac also includes a 5k monitor and the computer itself built into it (also adding the power of the iMac in a significantly smaller casing). With that in mind and the price of nanotechnology in mind, that's why the cost is significantly higher.

[@Minitomate]

For the same cost, you can build 2 PCs that are more powerful than an overpriced mac. Besides that you can overclock the CPU, GPU and RAM (kinda) more easily and get even more performance.

[@G33kyAli]

True, a similarly speced PC costs about the same as an iMac Pro when you add in the high resolution excellent colour reproduction screen the Mac has.

[@dextrosity7350]

@Hallucinogenichusky it's not an answer, it's a statement. He never asked for your input SMH

[@Zizotron]

Hallucinogenichusky it’s a comment and he can do whatever he wants. You’re just probably that one salty apple fanboy smh

[@kalazakan]

@Hallucinogenichusky salty fanboy

[@prowlhome6157]

Or you can have a life and buy a computer that works all theme out of the box and doesn’t fall over when the drivers change

[@LunaScopeJustin]

Great vid....Puget Systems' website has all the head to head benchmarks too.... its a great resource

[@b27001]

I still run after effects on a banged up notebook with an i3 chip and 2 gigs of RAM ! It's enough for me 😋

[@punkrider8758]

How??? Do you like not use any effects?

[@juleslee]

Well that’s a relief.. i want to learn after effects and at last you are a testament that my system can make it hahaha

[@sanoroth]

Then you probably dont do much with after effects. I'm a motion designer, and my old system ( ryzen 5 1600, 32gb 3000mhz ram, gtx 970 ) is struggling like its about to die. Waiting to get a 3900x build.

[@AbstractFilms]

Can you make an Episode for Premiere Pro? This one was amazing!

[@RSBickAKaby]

AE needs to be optimized for higher core count/threads because of inexpensive high core count CPUs. Also Instead of the RTX 2080 they should have gone with Radeon 7. It's rockin' 16GB of HBM2 memory compared to the 2080's 8GB of GDDR6. It's also about the same in price.

[@schoolofmotion]

Thanks for the input. Do you have any case studies showing the Radeon 7 being faster for After Effects?

[@josebenitez5482]

"So we tend to not go really high on the GPU for After Effect" *Slides in an RTX2080* Fantasic guide though! This information is much needed and not readly available so it's much appreciated!

[@schoolofmotion]

Thank you! We learned a ton from this experience. Glad you liked it.

[@yezhacker]

Well, it could be more expensive with a 2080ti 😅 🤣

[@ruffprophetproductions]

but can you airdrop? *apple fanboy voice*

[@YigitKonyalioglu]

airdrop more like ''i use dongle for everything but bluetooth seems stupid'' haha

[@OutdoorsmenLee]

I love airdrop but hate apple.

[@kidteknik7938]

we use Shareit already....so yeah fuck AirDrop ✌🏻😂 i used almost everything tbh...From Mac, Windows to Android and IOS...the only thing i've yet to use is Linux and Shareit runs on all those platform...no barriers which means everyone's happy 😊

[@sureiwill1302]

There is Bluetooth....

[@chelfyn]

for $99, rendergarden will speed up aftereffects rendering way more than expensive hardware, and will utilise all of the cores, fully.

[@johngalt8708]

yeah but those people who do it professionally have a render server or they farm it out. So their AE computers are really just for editing not for rendering.

[@KentuckyRanger]

I'm getting a video editing work station from Puget, and can't wait! I did go AMG, but it was only after many emails back and forth, Puget Systems talked me into the Threadripper 3960 24 core CPU. I'm also running Cyberlink Powerdirector, not Adobe, because I'm disabled, and just can't afford Adobe's yearly cost. I just need a system to quickly take on my smaller workloads, and I think this new system will handle it all splendidly.

[@ryanxu5425]

3:31 "good enough"

[@christianmartinez2179]

For Adobe software? Yeah

[@enzymebp]

"A higher core CPU speed" says the Senior Engineering Manager at Adobe... Such a confusing statement. He means higher clock speeds and probably higher single threaded clock speeds, but him struggling to put it into words doesn't surprise me when AE struggles to utilize high end hardware.

[@waqaransari3666]

This video is actualy incredibly helpful. I won't be buying stuff this expensive but this is exactly the stuff i needed to know

[@jakeondatoob]

"We tend to not go really high for the GPU" Pops in a RTX 2080 😂

[@petervanderhoof771]

Traveling professional photojournalist & graphic/visual artist, in 2014 I bought a PC laptop & upon receiving it, started to rearrange things. In 2014 I could take a 2.26GB Photoshop PSB file & have it open Photoshop, "then" the file in 15 seconds. It is still my screaming machine, running for days at time & while I am just diving in deep into After Effects so I don't know how it will do overall. I am working on a project right now that should give me some idea. It is an artistic - advertising piece for myself. So I am pushing myself to "blow my mind" the way those tutorials have been making me dream of stuff for the past couple years. More of an issue of busy with life, than not wanting to spend the time creating in After Effects. If I get a chance, I'll let you know how it does & a link to the video I create so you can guess what stuff I must have been using. Yes, a tower is much better to use, but limits are limits when you travel. Of course even in the 1990s my computers where octopuses with many external drives & devices, same for this one. All 4 USB ports are full. Left USA in 2015, my birth country.

[@petervanderhoof771]

I decided to test it just now, as I know I have added a few 100 fonts (not short cuts) in the past 2 yrs, 23 seconds, so it is a little slower now... but still 4 years old & not bad.

[@schoolofmotion]

Great! Glad to hear that your system is running strong!

[@EclipseMall]

Great work fellas! Thank you. Now i finally get what OS is best for After Effects!

[@schoolofmotion]

PC all the way.

[@IanEisenberg]

This is all about hardware. Nothing to do with the OS.

[@lega-xyz]

Awesome! now we need a video for Fastest Cinema 4D Machine!

[@ehro]

This was an awesome video! Much appreciated! It would be cool to see how fast one should realistically expect AE to work on an "Elite" system. I sometimes feel like my expectations may be too high for what technology can even do today. Anyways, this helped a ton. Cheers!

[@I_am_Spartacus]

Really enjoyed this.. would love to see this redone for 2022.... The more AE and Blender I do, the more I know I need a PC, but I just hate PCs and Windows... I love my iMac, but it is total pants for creative work unless you spend £20k on a MacPro, and even then, it's still not a beast compared to a 6k PC... I really wish Apple would get their arses in gear and actually make a computer that could kick ass....

[@JeahnLaffitteAdventures]

Holy crap! This is the most amazing video on all of KZbin! So upgrading soon!

[@TheNineFingeredMan]

dude thank you so so much for this video wish it came out when i bought my pc !!!! Honestly the channel is killing !!!!!

[@schoolofmotion]

Hey Luke! Thank you so much for the kind words. We just bought a Mac before this video was created... mistakes were made.

[@e11world]

Please make an updated video/article about a PC for AE/PR and C4D.

[@FlatPackFX]

Love it, it’s depressing as I only use macs now but i can understand that you will get great performance out of a custom PC. Great video 😉

[@BlackBalloonDesign]

Great stuff. Looking to upgrade the studio systems in the near future.

[@schoolofmotion]

Noice!

[@xtrekrex]

That I9 processor had HUGE clock speed. I willing to bet that that's the difference maker.

[@sabbathian]

Wait, wait... Why not NVMe for OS? Why slow RAM? So, they take normal components, laser etch a logo on Fractal Design case... and thats it? 1TB for data? Sure... that will be enough...

[@dextrosity7350]

Yea lmao also raid nvme ssd would have been wayyyyy better then two separate ssd's for a video editing pc like that I wouldn't have any less than 5TB

[@PedroMoreira2001]

Yup, with so many Z390 boards that have triple NVME M.2 slots, they could have gone with 970 Pro 512GB OS, 970 Evo 2TB for storage and another 970 Pro 512GB for cache... Still could have gone with 2 IronWolf 14TB drives and 4000MHz RAM

[@bradnotbrad]

Lots of PCs are pulling from servers or external storage for group projects, the storage on the computer only has to be enough to store a couple projects at once. The ssd is “fast enough” for the os, when I switched from a 950 pro to and 970 pro nvme drive I didn’t immediately notice os responsiveness increase in the slightest, I did however notice that the launch of adobe programs was a little faster

[@samohraje2433]

3x nvme ssd in RAID 0 for programs and other stuffs and 2x Sata SSD in raid 0 too, for operating system. And 3000mhz ram at least. or even bruttaly watercooled i9 9900K at 5.2GHz somehow.

[@AjClarkPROJECTJDM]

Such a well put together video. Really enjoy how informative it is, always has been a golden question for us animators. Good work on the lighting also looks dope and sets you apart.

[@ChrrZ]

super awesome guide, many thanks School of Motion and Puget!!,

[@schoolofmotion]

Thank you! It was a blast to create.

[@javiertrevino5535]

This is embarrassing for Apple, they should have the faster computer by now..

[@Ladraz]

apply is and would never be about having the best or fastest pc... apple is just a brand...

[@josephnicklo2994]

@@Ladraz What? They've always bragged about their systems being "the fastest" at their product launches.

[@Ladraz]

@@josephnicklo2994 which is correct on the exact day of their product launch, lol then the day after its not again...

[@MikeDuckworth]

why not multi socket mother boards?... there are many other solutions that double even 4x and 8x the cpu options ?

[@YeagerFilm]

Great video. I purchased a Puget Systems machine two years ago, so I need to try that benchmark.

[@YeagerFilm]

Completed the benchmark test. My Puget System, which was quite a bit more expensive, didn't come close to that benchmark score. 😬

[@schoolofmotion]

Awh sucks Yeager... I guess it's time for an upgrade.

[@jambononi]

There are so few videos about computers for after effects. Its so frustrating. I even search for it and I've only seen this video in my recommended!?! Anyway, cool video thanks

[@dukkiegamer1733]

"We tend to not go really high with the GPU" Still chooses a fucking 2080.

[@frostybe3r]

Yeah, not the fastest.

[@liam_1910]

Not even close

[@frostybe3r]

@@BassLegendYT Don't be a meme, I've used a 2990WX and it still used 8 core maximum for Adobe Premier Pro. My 9900K is faster for it.

[@nyborg6425]

AP is optimized for a ring bus architecture (intel) threadripper seems to be a better work station for 3d and cad apps(and some digital audio workstations.)

[@funtourhawk]

@@BassLegendYT They literally said higher core speed the better for AE, Intel shits on AMD for that

[@MasekFilip]

Did you even overclock the cpu? Seems like a lot of money and it's not even watercooled... And getting just 4ram slot and not 8 is not ideal if money is not an issue

[@PhantomGanhdi]

Filip Mašek the 9900k is already pushing it, no real need to overclock

[@meroshango9603]

Nice video, can you guys do another video but working Maya or Houdini hard proces like water, smoke or destruction simulations or dealing with high polygons counts

[@VefaERDEMJr]

I still have the same i7 2600K PC for a decade of which I am upgrading the GPU, RAM and SSD from time to time and I am happy with it. I do some freelance mograph and graphic design works with it. It does its job to an extent; unless I mess up with some complex 3D (fluid dynamics, displacement maps, vray, etc.). As a full time ad agency creative I also work with macs. I agree with the price/performance ratio comparison mentioned in this video. But when it comes to color fidelity, image crispness and screen performance, I could not achieve the results that an imac screen is able to produce, even with a mac display connected to the PC. It's always blueish compared to macs, even with the white point is set to 5600K. I have swapped 5 displays to this day (Samsung, LG, ViewSonic, Asus, Dell). I am open to all advices on this concern. Which display you guys use?

[@TheSchubang]

Happy the computer we just ordered at work is almost the same build except for the GPU. I gotta thank my IT for knowing his stuff, and SoM for proving him right! PS: You did look sexy

[@eirendiaz9003]

Buy him a beer

[@JorgeJuniorr]

Pretty sure Windows has come a long way and part of me actually wants to build a PC to work with AE, but I can't forget the day I gave up on Windows almost 13 years ago. I was working on a project that involved editing almost 9 hours of footage from 3 cameras. After hours importing all of the MiniDV tapes through firewire and about 8 hours of editing in Premiere the Blue Screen of Death appears. I try to reboot the system, but Windows no longer starts up. I tried removing the hard drive and put it on another PC to try to salvage the footage and the Premiere project and everything else was corrupted, I lost all of my work less than 24h before my deadline. That same week I bought a iMac.

[@deordered.]

where are pc master race friends?

[@LD10000]

I have to switch over from Mac to PC, I have GPUs in my mac but can't get current with software because I'm still on Sierra and High Sierra to accommodate NVIDIA mac drivers. My only complaint about PC/Windows is Quicktime is useless on every Windows machine that I've used. Typography is better in Mac OS, special characters. Alas... Mac ride is finally over... I like this video a lot, THANK YOU ! Very informative and fuchsia highlights on the footage...

[@beMOTIONdESIGN]

Love the team at Puget Systems!

[@schoolofmotion]

We do too! They are amazing folks.

[@nevetsnevets]

I'm just mad because after effects is *SO GOD DAMN SLOW RN*

[@DihelsonMendonca]

This is the most AWESOME video about Adobe After Effects EVER ! I awaited many years to discover the best machine ever. Go to the shoppings !

[@Luis444Felipe]

I see everywhere PC builds with the BEST and most expensive parts. I was wondering if you guys could make budget-oriented hardware recommendation for general use After Effects, Motion Graphics and other 3D software. This channel seems well versed on hardware so I wanted to ask for advice without breaking the bank. Would a Ryzen 5 2600 be enough in terms of single-core performance? or would I be better off with a Intel i5 8400? I'm getting started on AE so I'm no professional (save me the i7 8700k recommendations) and could handle render times, but would like smooth performance when studying (scrubbing, effects, preview of the project) I currently have a AMD A9-9420 laptop with radeon R5 integrated graphics with 4GB of RAM, it gets sluggish with rendering and sometimes even Illustrator. Will a Ryzen 5 + GTX 1050 Ti/RX 560 be smooth for this type of work? Or is it better to get a GTX 1060/RX 580 with a better CPU? Any advice is appreciated!

[@schoolofmotion]

The first thing recommended is to look at the article in the link of this video. There we go into what you want to focus on and why they are important. This will greatly help you to determine where you can save money and where you need to spend more when creating a PC build. Check out Pugetsystems website and read their case studies on the reasons why you should pick one type of RAM over another and one CPU over another. If you're only operating with 4GB of RAM that is a large bottleneck for processing data. You'll want to get a very bare minimum of 16GB, and then continually add on top of that. 1 stick of 16GB RAM is better than 2 sticks of 8GB RAM for processing. Hope this helps!

[@EpicOD11]

iMac Pro - Benchmark. After an hour of running the Puget System Benchmark these are the results: Overall Score: 2587.25 Standard Score: 257.9 C4D: 461.3 Tracking Score: 57.8 Specs: Intel Xeon 2.5 GHz - 14 Core - 128GB RAM DDR4 - Pro Vega 64X 16GB - 2 TB SSD Total Cost: $10k I am satisfied with the results. I can provide Screenshots.

[@jozef_s]

Great video guys! Can you do an update video please? We have the new M1 Pro and Max out already and they have the one of the fastest single core performance CPU and the extremely fast ssd's. Maybe this will make you switch back to Mac? 😁 Thanks.

[@vikrantKumar-gh9xn]

Very impressive video . Information and music and all were great.

[@eilonhay4812]

dont forget the imac is all in one and has a screen that on the market you will buy for 1700$ now im not a aplle fan but thats not to far.

[@JeffDeWitt]

But the iMac has therma issues and is also much harder to upgrade.

[@901D]

It is by far the best tip for building new PC

[@schoolofmotion]

Thank you!

[@abelgeorge4953]

It's a shame how after effects doesn't use the GPU to it full extent... It would be much faster if it did...

[@iUmarFarooqi]

It was worth every second I had to wait for it! ^_^

[@schoolofmotion]

Ha! Thanks for the kind words.

[@fayyazb]

WOW!! So is JOHNNY CACHE still kicking it or not! So PC is the way to go for Intermediate Motion Graphics Designer!

[@Nattodayy]

Keying 4K footage takes forever in AE on my 2017 MacBook Pro. But in Motion, I can key, grade and plays back in real-time. So why can’t Adobe optimize After Effects to work better on multiple OSs rather than pushing me to switch to a PC desktop?

[@trevorwilliams401]

Huge thanks for the helpful insights!

[@tonybp]

Yeah... after lots of testing between the best MAC and a custom made PC had to offer with similar price, the VFX production house I work at did a major overhaul and out went the MAC's and in came the PC's. The render times and workflow was much faster and not to mention the price savings. I do think some time ago MAC's were better for creative work but nowadays there's just no justification for their price/performance ratio. Either PC's caught up to MAC's or Apple just got lazy and decided to just live off their brand, I think it's both.

[@schoolofmotion]

Well said. We totally agree.

[@AlonsoBonifacio]

School of Motion So, when you build a PC for less than your iMac Pro, you got a free 5K display?

[@schoolofmotion]

@@AlonsoBonifacio After the savings of building the PC you can purchase 2 displays and still be under the cost of the iMac Pro. Hope that helps!

[@luckydhiman]

@@AlonsoBonifacio You can get a LG5k Ultra Fine display.

[@mapledutch]

What RGB light for filming did you used?

[@plattevillewebsolutions9807]

Awesome to see that you can create an After Effects beast for less than 5K. I wonder if it would be built any differently if it was specifically for Adobe Premiere?

[@schoolofmotion]

We asked Puget and they said this build-out should be great for Premiere Pro. The big difference comes down to rendering. Premiere Pro utilizes mutli-core rendering, so theoretically it would render much faster with more cores. We did a build out in the article for a super fast (and expensive) Premiere machine, but it actually would lead to a slight dip in AE performance.

[@plattevillewebsolutions9807]

@@schoolofmotion Good to know, thanks for replying!

[@haiderr]

*In other words, can you use this as a Gaming PC instead?*

[@schoolofmotion]

Absolutely!

[@JeffDeWitt]

But from what I'm seeing these days to make it work as a gaming PC you need to add a bunch of RGB stuff....

[@felixsmittick9128]

Thank you for this, it will be helpful.

[@parentheses7777]

I wonder what drove the price up in that video? I have basically the same pc except with 3200 MHz ram and 2 more TB of sad storage and it cost less than $2600. Probably because it’s built by puget :/.

[@eftorq]

Nice but why not 3200mhz RAM? I know the difference is small, but if the motherboard supports it, maxing out on RAM speed would be important for something like after effects

[@schoolofmotion]

YO! Check out Linus Tech Tips. Results show that you can get less than 5% boost in performance. but, there are a lot of crashes that can be involved. If you're working in a professional environment you are going to reduce crashes as much as possible. So even though IT IS FASTER, it's not recommended. kzbin.info/www/bejne/epC8pWesiL9-jM0

[@edgob9910]

This was Great Thank you for sharing Also that was Some Great Ratio on the lighting Woot

[@abacadusale]

This is TOTALLY INSANE!!

[@Gasconauxolives]

Best hardware guide ever. Thanks guys!

[@SagaSynthetics]

A good overview, well produced composition. They do know what they are doing. But. If you are going for a desktop beast. At least go all in on custom water cooling, and extreme stable overclocking. As they stated speed was merrier rather than multitasking core count / threads. That makes me wonder the possibilities if the program could utilize all the cores, at maximum speeds. Again, thats another ball game. Im on a 9 year old system now. The 980x with 24GB ram and a gtx 780 from 2013. That system is the most tedious to work with even remotely trying to use 4k footage for a 720p render. It laggs, chopps, it does not even make me want to do what I really want to do. One day

[@cLickphotographySEA]

Awesome info to chow down on!

[@randallhernandez1644]

Gracias Bros, i needed this. ❤💪🏽

[@SLAMINGKICKS]

Where can we get that benchmark test?

[@schoolofmotion]

Right Here: www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Puget-Systems-Adobe-After-Effects-CC-Benchmark-1287/

[@SamuelLJackson55]

@@schoolofmotion Why don't you put it in the video description?

[@schoolofmotion]

Great suggestion! We'll add it in.

[@minimalfun]

I am not a hot Mac fan, my workhorse is an AMD 3900x PC but I am just wondering what monitor do you use in your Graphics/Design/Coloring workflow? Monitor is an essential part of Photographers, Designers, Motion Designers, Illustrators, Graphic Designers and....workflow. My AMD PC came around 2200$ + 1100$ for an almost 4K BenQ SW271 monitor. I paid 3350$ because you can't and I repeat you CAN'T trust cheap monitors for any kinda Graphics/Motion Graphics workflow. In the meantime a beefy 27" iMac is around 3400$. iMac's monitor is 5K, the brightness is over 500nits, my BenQ is 4K and 350 nits...and you can trust iMac's monitor most of the times. If your workflow doesn't need a very good monitor, yeah Macs don't make any sense but if you need it, the prices are almost the same if not cheaper.

[@mvs]

Does ram speed in Mhz has anything to do with after effects? what I mean is, 32GB 2400Mhz memory and 32GB 3200Mhz Memory would it be any difference only in After Effects

[@juhopelttari3242]

This was great! Thanks

[@elephantgrass631]

Videos like this mean nothing anymore since we are now in the M1 Apple era. It will only get better from here.

[@SamuelLJackson55]

I'm always blown away by the cluelessness of apple users when it comes to their computer's relative speed/capability....

[@AndresTorres3d]

have you heard about mac´s reality distortion field?

[@galaga00]

I'm well aware of the shortcomings performance wise of macs but I'm also very well aware of the shortcomings of dealing with Windows OS. I have been a user of both professionally and whenever I hear people say what you've said I usually assume they haven't worked a lot in both environments. I'm not a fan boy I just greatly prefer the Mac OS. Pure and simple. That being said Apple has been dropping the ball in regards to pros and we know it and they know it. And much like the narrator in this video he's realizing he's probably going to switch to PC. But why is he so bummed? Well, I can tell you: Windows is super annoying to work with. It's gotten WAY better in recent years thought. I started with Windows 95 and worked my way up through many iterations. When I first started using Mac OS it was a breath of fresh air. Overall I'm all about whatever gets the job done and what you're happiest using. If you love Windows, more power to you. If you love Apple, more power to you. Does Apple charge too much? Yep. More than anything I'm frustrated that I'm forced to decide between two systems only. I work with the Adobe Suite and these are the choices I have. Either side has their pros and cons. I'm also annoyed that Adobe is so behind the times as well. After Effects is NOT an efficient program anymore and it really shows. The fact that it doesn't take advantage of modern processors is pretty telling. Anyhow, my two cents.

[@SamuelLJackson55]

@@galaga00 Apple's slick marketing tricked me into buying a iMac. And as time went on, I realized it for the piece of garbage it was and was able to admit that I overpaid for it. My problem is when cult users like youself come in and muddy the waters with claims that it's everyone else's fault or that Apple overcharges for good things. No. That's not the case at all - Apple makes underperforming garbage and extracts the most it can from illiterates like you who don't know how to read and test specs. It's the biggest hustle on 'creatives' that use their product, because what the f would a graphic designer or music artist really know about tech? btw, are the weirds videos on your page made with iMovie?

[@galaga00]

@@SamuelLJackson55 you are clearly trying to focus all your frustration and rage onto me as if I represent all that you hate about Apple and Apple users. I actually 100% support anyone who wishes to use Windows and I have nothing against someone who wishes to use Apple. I personally prefer using the Mac OS but not if Apple stops supporting pros. And like I've said i've worked in both quite a bit. Nice thing about Adobe is it can work on either. Anyways, I'm ignoring the rest of your comment because you're clearly upset and slinging insults. Something someone usually only does when they're online and anonymous. Good day.

[@SamuelLJackson55]

Austin Hill No. i’m ignoring your comment first because I’m sure the logic used is akin to an anti-vaxxer response when they’re told modern medicine works.

[@Tom10]

Nice video style & visuals! ❤️ Any feedback about NVIDIA Quadro cards? Since ‘gaming’ card was recommended, I wonder if it could be worth the buck too. Thanks!

[@schoolofmotion]

Hey Tom! Puget has some great GPU reviews for After Effects where they compare available GPUs on the market. Head over there and you can see how they stack up!

[@maxim_si]

why only 2600 ram speed if you can put 3200 or more??????

[@IvenSkateboarding]

You know how fucking much I've needed this video!!!!!!

[@RubiconUnlimited]

Woo great video. I'd make the switch for that beast 👍