Installation and Test of M.2 Copper Heatsink Cooler for M.2 2280 SSD Laptop

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@TukabelTukabel
@TukabelTukabel 9 ай бұрын
You have the face of an expert. As soon as I saw you, I told to myself : "This guy knows what he's talking about". And I was right.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 6 ай бұрын
Hi Tubekel, Welcome. Just now seeing Your comment. I'm honored. Thank You very much!
@rcsontag
@rcsontag 5 ай бұрын
Based upon this video, I purchased and installed the YATENG M.2 Copper Heatsink Cooler for M.2 2280 SSD Laptop. The product quality seemed good and installation was easy, except for the rubber bands which would tear during installation. Luckily more than enough were provided. I recommend that anyone using this product to first polish the edges of the copper plate.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 5 ай бұрын
Hello Gatnos, Welcome! Appreciate Your Comments. Aside from installation, what are your Results in Testing?
@thomasd2695
@thomasd2695 Жыл бұрын
Awesome. Very thorough. This guy takes pride in his work you can tell
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy Жыл бұрын
He Thomas D, Welcome! Appreciate Your Comments! Absolutely! So far We've Tested 16 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Heatsinks! A Video for each one!
@TwenOalley
@TwenOalley 25 күн бұрын
I love listening to you talk, you have an excellent vocabulary!
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 25 күн бұрын
Hi@@TwenOalley, Welcome! I'm honored. Thank You for your compliment.
@LastRightsTV
@LastRightsTV 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely through something rare in tech right now
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Last Rights, Welcome! I'm honored! Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching! Now that We have PS5 Heatsinks appearing, this could change what We use in a Laptop! Hold that thought! And... Stay tuned!
@gayanmaduka
@gayanmaduka 3 ай бұрын
For those using the Samsung 990 Pro: If your warranty has expired, consider peeling off the stickers. The Samsung 990 Pro has chips of varying heights, so when using a heatsink, it may not cover all areas properly, leaving a noticeable gap between the chip and thermal pad. Instead of using a 1mm thermal pad, opt for a 2mm pad. You don’t necessarily need a heatsink, but you can use the same thermal pad on the bottom side if there's enough clearance. This setup provides much better cooling. I used the GELID SOLUTIONS GP-Ultimate Thermal Pad (2mm).
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 ай бұрын
Hi Gayan, Welcome. Just now seeing Your comments. We do not always receive notifications. All M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drives are uneven from Memory vs Controller. Thank You for commenting.
@gayanmaduka
@gayanmaduka 2 ай бұрын
@@BuildOrBuy Sir, I've learned a lot from your videos-they are very informative. I just wanted to share my personal experience. I'm glad you replied. Thank you ❤️
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 ай бұрын
Hi@@gayanmaduka, Appreciate your comments. Thank You for Watching. Glad we could help.
@edmac1090
@edmac1090 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this video. Yours was one of the few well done, non hyperbolic vids on the subject.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Degenerate Pervert, Welcome! Appreciate Your Comments! Details matter! Thanks for Commenting and Watching!
@FerdAboubakrOnline
@FerdAboubakrOnline 3 жыл бұрын
Just curious about ambient temperature? It’s good to have it , so we can calculate the Delta(difference between ambient temp and drive temp) , comparing the delta of each heatsink to get fair comparison. Also for this heatsink, it seems that it performs well thanks to the mounting pressure provided by the tighter rubber bands, the previous one looked kinda loose , you want the thermal pad as compressed as possible , with every unit of pressure added , performance improves too and the pads transfer more heat . Again, Thank you for the video .
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 3 жыл бұрын
Hi 5 nm, Absolutely! I'm concerned about those Thermal Bands longevity. Excellent Point! I'm glad You mentioned that! We check the Ambient Temperature when Building a Computer! I will include that Data in the next two Heatsink Videos as well as with the changing of the Thermal Pads. Thanks for bringing that up! Details matter!
@AutodidactEngineer
@AutodidactEngineer 2 жыл бұрын
For anyone wondering GeLid is the best thermal pad manufacturer from germany! Their pads have 15w/mk conductivity!
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mr.Freeman, Yes, We have Videos Comparing 3 Thermal Pads. That is one of them. The only downside is they are too fragile to reuse. Thanks for Sharing!
@ocarina33
@ocarina33 8 ай бұрын
Dude, this guy is GOOOOOD..
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 7 ай бұрын
Hi ocarina, Welcome! Appreciate Your Comment.
@horrormoviefan218
@horrormoviefan218 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! clear, easy and straight to the point.👍
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi HorrorMovieFan, Welcome! Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching!
@docholliday6296
@docholliday6296 2 жыл бұрын
Well done video. Informative and right to the point. And on a side note, Excellent choice of PSU. I too use Super Flower.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Doc Holiday, Welcome! Appreciate Your Comments! Sometimes hard to Source Super Flower right now! Excellent Build quality! We have Tested other M.2 NVMe PCIe Heatsinks that Tested better at reducing Temps but require overhead space for height. Acidalie and JEYI FinsCold iGlacier8! Thanks for Watching!
@ArunPremkumar5
@ArunPremkumar5 2 жыл бұрын
You are fantastic!!!!
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi arun p, Welcome! I'm honored! Appreciate Your Comment! Thanks for Watching!
@Iram_Deum
@Iram_Deum 2 ай бұрын
Hello, do you think using kapton tape would be better than those bands long term? Thanks!
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 ай бұрын
Hi@@Iram_Deum, Welcome. Excellent idea. Yes.
@VSP4591
@VSP4591 4 ай бұрын
Excellent video.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 3 ай бұрын
Hi@@VSP4591, Welcome. Thank You. Appreciate your comment. Be sure to watch the other Heatsink videos. This grew beyond what we started with. Fascinating Topic beyond expectations to Results.
@Tesseus
@Tesseus 3 жыл бұрын
Why is it better to use the thicker thermalpads over the thinner one? Thanks in advance!
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Tesseus, Excellent question! The intention will be for more Compression for better Heat Transfer. That too is a Theory We still need to verify! We've learned enough to throw assumptions out the door! Thanks for Asking!
@FaustRSI
@FaustRSI 2 жыл бұрын
@@BuildOrBuy Actually, the thick one is for the thinner part of the SSD, while the thin part is for the thicker. Because the heights of the SSD controller and SSD memory slots are different and you want the whole surface to be even.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi@@FaustRSI, Welcome! Thanks for Sharing!
@JasonJLPH
@JasonJLPH Жыл бұрын
Is there a massive difference in heat between doing this and leaving it without a heatsink? Im gonna be using my laptop for gaming mostly
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy Жыл бұрын
Hello JasonJLPH, Welcome! Excellent Question! Depends. Your Laptop is PCIe 3.0. Your Gaming Performance mode requires plugging into Power. That Performance mode can and will generate more heat. Test and Verify. If there is room then think about that addition later. If no space then nothing You can do without getting radical. We have to stay on the practical side. Keep Us Posted! At the very least, check Your M.2 NVMe Firmware to help manage Heat to prevent Drive Failure. Hope that helps!
@gundamsdm
@gundamsdm 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please explain or point me to your previous video where you explain how removing the SSD label b4 applying the thermal pad actually keeps it cooler? The other videos I've seen on KZbin seem to say the opposite.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi GunnSmyth Jaxx, Welcome! Just now seeing Your Comment! Great Question! We do not do that nor do We advocate that. We have had a few Comments from Viewers suggesting that procedure. That's a choice. We're Testing from a Default and not changing anything from the Norm for a Fair Test. Everyone's Results may vary. This is a baseline for Comparison since We have so far Tested 14 M.2 NVMe PCIe Heatsinks. Fascinating Results! We Test too many Devices to remove any Labels. We would be busy figuring out what was what while trying to keep track of what We're doing! Hope that helps!
@salahsalah-ro7eq
@salahsalah-ro7eq 3 жыл бұрын
شكرأ علي الفديوهات فداني كثيرا 😃👍
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 3 жыл бұрын
Hi salah salah, Welcome! Thank You! Appreciate the Smiley Face and Thumbs Up!
@yoyodroider5288
@yoyodroider5288 2 жыл бұрын
Question... Would there possibly be any issue or even any possible benefit to layering a Loose/extra copper ssd plate/heatsink like the one in this video (1mm). Along with a 4mm Aluminum SSD heatsink (Example: M.2 SSD > Thermal Pad > 1mm Copper Plate > 4mm Aluminum Heatsink) ? Whether the Aluminum Heatsink is a 2 sided/piece or single. Thanks in advance !
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Yoyo Droider, Welcome! An option worth exploring! We've learned enough about M.2 NVMe Heatsinks and Thermal Pads to never say never and to test and verify. That's all that matters are Results! Do the Research and see where that takes Us! Hope that helps! Great Question! Thanks for Asking!
@gundamsdm
@gundamsdm 2 жыл бұрын
@@BuildOrBuy, I was also wondering this, except I'm curious if you'd also need to put an extra thermal pad in between this thin copper plate and the larger heatsink or would you just place them metal to metal?
@kirkdarling4120
@kirkdarling4120 Жыл бұрын
@@gundamsdm I would expect that the copper-to-copper contact wouldn't be sufficient for the same reason we don't put a heatsink on a cpu without thermal paste. I'd use the thinnest available thermal pad.
@jheranavila5807
@jheranavila5807 8 ай бұрын
Hi is it ok to put a strip of an electrical tape to secure the heatsink instead of rubber band? Thank you
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 7 ай бұрын
He Jheran, Welcome. Good question. That rubber band provides some amount of compression, with Thermal properties. If you go that route, use an electrical tape that does not ooze adhesive over time. Those can get tacky sticky and create a mess as the adhesive breaks down.
@Tech-Dino
@Tech-Dino 7 ай бұрын
Bought a few copper heatsinks for my HP ZBook G10 Fury (2x Samsung 990Pro 4TB + 2x Samsung 990Pro 2TB) Sadly the HP M.2 4 drives cage is very limited in space. So I have a range of 2mm, 1mm, 0,8mm and 0,5mm (DolDer and Benefischl) But I will replace the head pads with much better Artic Cooling TP-3 Premium Performance Thermal Pad (got 1,5, 1,0 an 0,5 mm). It looks that I only can use 0,5 or max 0,8mm copper heatsinks. The Samsung M.2 SDDs chips have different highs
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 7 ай бұрын
Hi Tech Dino, Welcome! Appreciate those details. All of that matters. Next, Results. Care to share?
@Tech-Dino
@Tech-Dino 7 ай бұрын
@@BuildOrBuy With the two SSDs (Samsung 990 PRO 2 TB), the RAMs and the controller have the same height. Therefore, you only need one strip of thermal pad (Artic Cooling TP-3 with a height of 0.05 mm). Due to HP's own M.2 SSD locking mechanism, I can only equip the two SSDs in the lower compartment with the Benefilsch copper cooler with a height of 0.5 mm. On the mainboard side there is a very thick thermal pad on which I glued another 1.0 mm so that contact could be made with the Samsung controller on the underside. According to HP, the two Samsung 990 PRO 4 TB SSDs can (generally) only be installed in the upper area. In fact, NO alternative heat sink fits here, as HP uses its own thin copper cage plate. I removed the old pads from the copper cage and glued 0.5 mm thermal pads to the RAMs on the SSDs and 1.0 mm on the controller. A kind of copper rail runs through the HP Zbook, connecting the area of the SSDs and the RAM. I also replaced the thermal pads here. The RAM area did not have an old thermal pad for whatever reason. I made this change myself. For the lower 2 TB drives, I first modded one and left the other drive original for comparison: SSD1 modded: RAM max 65 degrees Controller max 77 degrees SSD2 original: RAM max 73 degrees Controller 100 degrees Tested with Samsung SSD Bench. I have reinstalled Windows 11 pro Workstation myself. During the Windows installation the drives get very hot and so does the laptop. After all drivers have been installed and the drives have been encrypted with Bitlocker, the temperatures are also in the normal range. The two lower drives had 43-44 degrees in idle (or a download was running) and the two upper 4 TB drives have 41 degrees. So the result is much better than expected! I have not carried out an extra stress test as I want to protect the drives in case anything negative should be noticed, I will contact you again. Maybe I could leave out the thin copper sheet cage completely, but I have a 5-year on-site warranty and don't want to void the warranty.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 7 ай бұрын
Hi@@Tech-Dino, Excellent Results. Thanks for Sharing. That should help increase your longevity.
@Tech-Dino
@Tech-Dino 7 ай бұрын
@@BuildOrBuy Yea, I think the key is also very good thermal pads that can get the most out of it.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 7 ай бұрын
Hi@@Tech-Dino, Most definitely. Everything matters. Are you using Silicone type or Clay type Thermal pads?
@GoodBoy-io6fd
@GoodBoy-io6fd 4 ай бұрын
Hey sir what's up?! Will you answer me if you see my comment? My question is, I plan to put a 6MM Copper Heatsink on my M.2 for laptop application. Will it fit a 6MM Heatsnk? Next question is, can I use a thermal paste sandwiching it in between the heatsink and thermal pad? The Laptop is the Asus ROG Strix G18 (2024), an 18.4" gaming laptop.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 4 ай бұрын
Hi Good Boy, Welcome. Good question. You'll have to Test and Verify. Every Laptop is different. This copper plate is the best solution we've seen. Thermal paste? Must be non conductive. Otherwise, problems. Suggest stick with a Thermal Pad. There are two types as outlined. Silicone type which are reusable or the clay like Thermal pads which are one time use.
@GoodBoy-io6fd
@GoodBoy-io6fd 4 ай бұрын
@@BuildOrBuy Thermal paste I want to use is the one they normally use when installing the heatsink of the CPU in the PC and when changing the heatsink fan of the graphics card. Will this be fine and non conductive? About the 6MM heat sink looks like this will be a trial and error oh man!
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 4 ай бұрын
Hi@@GoodBoy-io6fd, Verify. Every Thermal Past is different. Compression can be safely achieved with a Thermal Pad. Travel at your own risk. We do not recommend using both. Thermal paste is used for a uniform surface. Thermal pads are used for uneven surfaces like M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drives. You know the concerns. You know the risks involved. Your call.
@GoodBoy-io6fd
@GoodBoy-io6fd 4 ай бұрын
@@BuildOrBuy Looks like I will just go for the 2 or 3 mm copper heatsink paired with a 1mm thermal pad. 6mm is TOO THICK! This is only good for PC use. Ahuh if you said so Mr.PC Expert, I will forget about using a thermal paste! You have a good reason! Processor or silicon chips goes well with metal, aluminum and copper surfaces but not with a silicon material thermal pad. I am planning to buy two Lexar NM790 4TBs for the 2024 Asus ROG Strix G18. Another question, is there a thin heat sink made for the SODIMM memory of a laptop?
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 4 ай бұрын
Hi@@GoodBoy-io6fd, Smart decision. From Our testing results, this flat copper performed better than machined copper with more surface area. Curios. As always, Test and Verify. Your results may vary.
@zzzzzzz1zzzzzzzzzz1z
@zzzzzzz1zzzzzzzzzz1z Жыл бұрын
thanks. question, are the thermal pads conductive, so do i have to be super careful when applying to the ssd that it doesnt touch any i.e. smd resistors (because open contacts)?
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy Жыл бұрын
Hello zzzzzzz1zzzzzzzzz1z, Welcome! Excellent Question! Non Conductive. Thermal Pads are ether Silicone or a Clay like material. Glad You've ppinted that out! A very important consideration!
@zzzzzzz1zzzzzzzzzz1z
@zzzzzzz1zzzzzzzzzz1z Жыл бұрын
@@BuildOrBuythank you! interesting it is a clay like mayerial. in former times, like 15 yrs ago i did some discrete audio amplifiers and hat to pay attantion not to connect transistors via the heatsink ;) so i had some special washers/insulation..
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy Жыл бұрын
Hi@@zzzzzzz1zzzzzzzzzz1z, There are still times when We have to be aware of not Grounding out a Motherboard installation! Experience is the best Teacher! We can relate!
@rottenfist220
@rottenfist220 3 жыл бұрын
those rubber rings just melted in few weeks. what can i use instead of rubber rings?
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 3 жыл бұрын
Hi worgen666, Welcome! Just as expected! Although We did expect at least a few months instead of a few weeks. Not good. Interesting. Those rubber rings were suppose to be silicone. Guess not. Yes silicone is synthetic rubber however, both are suppose to be able to handle heat. They may have used a low quality banding product. We need to look at quality O Rings as a replacement. A 1 inch O Ring for a start. Maybe We can try Viton O Rings. This may work. Have not had time to Research those nor to fully vet them. I have knowledge of Packing and Gaskets as a Machinist from many years ago. Not certain how resilient they will be to stretch. Excellent properties for heat. 1. 213 Viton O-Ring, 75A Durometer, Black, 15/16" ID, 1-3/16" OD, 1/8" Width (Pack of 25) amzn.to/3HZcEtx 2. 270 Pcs Rubber O Rings Kit, 15 Size Washer Gasket Sealing Assortment Kit, for Plumbing Faucet, Automotive, Air or Gas Connections and Other General Maintenance, Convenient Box Packaging. amzn.to/3FyI9se This is a start. But I do not know yet if this is the best Solution. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.
@rottenfist220
@rottenfist220 3 жыл бұрын
@@BuildOrBuy i'll try zip ties. thank you.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 3 жыл бұрын
Hi@@rottenfist220, Zip ties will eventually become brittle and break loose. Try them. Less expensive. These Vedors have not fully fleshed out this thought of attachment. Keep Us Posted on Your Progress. That's another reason We have Tested so many Heatsinks.
@gerarda7659
@gerarda7659 3 жыл бұрын
I have a set similar to this but it came with silicone bands and a klapton like tape. Which one should I use? Im concerned on how well the bands will last over time. Thanks in advance
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Gerard A, Welcome! Excellent Question. Not an easy answer! You are not the 1st to ask! We have the same concerns. The pros and cons of each. Silicone bands will stretch and hold compression. Although that depends upon the time of exposure to heat. Whereas Kapton tape is a thermal conductor and a high-performance electrical insulator. I would want to test both. Although, I don't see how Kapton tape could hold compression. Even still, neither are ideal hence the reason for a Heatsink with a metal wrap around base for longevity. And no concern about compression. Silicone bands might be good for 1 year. Kapton tape should last but the wrap at the time of the installation is dependent upon the tightness of the wrap. For what it's worth, Kapton tape has a Thermal conductivity of 0.8 W/mK. Minimal. I don't see Builders opening up a rig to swap our Thermal Pads unless Temps start rising for no apparent reason. Kind of like cleaning out the dust bunnies every 6 months. No one does that unless they have to! Same goes for a Thermal Band. A Thermal Band is a short term solution to a long term problem. Hope that helps. Not definitive! But yes, very concerned about longevity. Thanks for Asking! Keep Us Posted on your decision as to which You choose.
@rnegoro1
@rnegoro1 Ай бұрын
The rubber band would harden and break after a few months of usage. Maybe plastic zip ties work better.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy Ай бұрын
Hi@@rnegoro1, Welcome. Our concern as well. With zip ties... Space is always at a premium. Heat makes them brittle. Kapton Tape might be more productive.
@jossue2889
@jossue2889 2 жыл бұрын
excelent video
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jossue, Welcome! Thank You! Appreciate Your Comment!
@eike6441
@eike6441 3 жыл бұрын
You used the heat sink on one side of the ssd. I see many using it on both faces. Does using the heat sink of both sides cool it even further?
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 3 жыл бұрын
Hi E IKE, Welcome! Excellent Point! This Heatsink gave great results considering the simplicity of Design compared to other Heatsinks We have Tested! On the Supermicro Dual M.2 NVMe Adapter, not enough clearance on the back side for a 2nd Copper Heatsink and 2nd Thermal Pad. Based on all the Heatsink Designs We've Tested, no. The only metal behind any of them would be for a Backplate wrap around for compression to hold the assembly together. Close tolerances. To better Cool, swap out the Thermal Pad with a higher W/mK Thermal value. And We don't expect to have as much space in a Laptop as We do on a Dual M.2 NVMe Adapter. Here are 3 possible Thermal Pad replacements listed below. The 1st set is 2 Thermal Pads. The 2nd set is 1 Thermal Pad. And the 3rd Thermal Pad, also singular must be cut to fit. 1. Thermopad Thermal Grizzly Minus Pad 8 - Silicone, Self-Adhesive, Thermally Conductive Thermal Pad - Conducts Heat and Cools The Heating Elements of The Computer or Console (120 × 20 × 1,0 mm) [8 W/mK] amzn.to/3n4YkWu 2. Thermalright Thermal Pad 12.8 W/mK, 85x45x1mm, Non Conductive Heat Resistance, Extreme Odyssey Silicone Thermal Pads for PC Laptop Heatsink/GPU/CPU/LED Cooler (1mm) amzn.to/3pcRZLy 3. Gelid Solutions GP-Ultimate 15W- Thermal Pad 90x50x1.0mm amzn.to/2YXsOBg As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. Hope that helps! Thanks for Asking!
@eike6441
@eike6441 3 жыл бұрын
@@BuildOrBuy thank you for the detailed feedback. Really appreciate.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 3 жыл бұрын
Hi@@eike6441, Absolutely! Details matter! We have now Tested 14 Heatsinks! There may be more. We will Test the top 3 Heatsinks and change out the Thermal Pads to see if We can improve Results. If so, to what degree! Pun intended! Change one thing, changes everything! Stay Tuned!
@Thebossreserve
@Thebossreserve 6 ай бұрын
Good evening. On my motherboard, in slot m2_1 there is a lower divider, but in m2_2 there is not, where can I add a part to put in m2_2? thanks.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 6 ай бұрын
Hello TheBoss, Which Motherboard? I'll need to research what you're asking to understand what you're talking about. Tell me more about this lower divider on your M.2 Slot.
@05-abhishekbhoir50
@05-abhishekbhoir50 Жыл бұрын
Should we use this on a 2tb wd ssd in a laptop? And is it fine if we dont use a heatsink and use the ssd anyway.. whats more preferable according to you?
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy Жыл бұрын
Hello Abhishek, Welcome! Excellent Question! If there's room this would be a good idea to minimize heat! You'll have to Test and Verify! This is the best We have found that might fit in a Laptop. Keep Us Posted on Your Progress!
@Mugen10
@Mugen10 2 жыл бұрын
where was the laptop installation in all of this?
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Divien, Welcome! We have yet to make that Video! Testing 14 M.2 NVMe Heatsinks became a very involved process along with 3 different Thermal Pads. Then Subscribers Questions about Adding M.2 NVMe PCIe Storage by way of Quad cards to Motherboards. That too has taken on a life of its own. We will swing back around to this Topic! This will probably be using an ASUS Laptop. Just today We had confirmation of another M.2 NVMe PCIe Heatsink, Gigabyte, that will not fit in a Laptop so We're working on it! Appreciate Your Patience! Thanks for Asking!
@HabibHussain-uy7lg
@HabibHussain-uy7lg 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, is there any alternative to using rubber bands to attach the heatsink. I have a fear that those rubber bands might melt and cause a mess. Can I use twist tie as an alternative? Thank you
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Habib Hussain, Welcome! We too have concerns about the longevity of those Thermal Bands. They are not suppose to melt but We're concerned they may become brittle over time. They maintain pressure for Compression. A twist tie, Interesting idea! Give it a try! We Definitely need better fastening solutions for Heatsinks! Electrical wire used as a twist tie might be better insulated that just a twist tie. Keep Us Posted on Your Progress!
@HabibHussain-uy7lg
@HabibHussain-uy7lg 2 жыл бұрын
@@BuildOrBuy Thanks a lot. I will definitely give it a try. But which one do you think would be better suitable, wire (with no outer rubber insulation) or twist tie?
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Ho@@HabibHussain-uy7lg, The twist tie may not have enough insulation to isolate the internal wire if there were a break in the continuity of insulation. Could cause a short and that would be a Problem worse than what You're trying to solve. That's why the electrical wire which has better or thicker insulation. You're better off sticking with the Thermal Bands. No possible shorts! Another option might be Heat Resistant O Rings.
@HabibHussain-uy7lg
@HabibHussain-uy7lg 2 жыл бұрын
@@BuildOrBuy Got it. Thank you
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi@@HabibHussain-uy7lg, Absolutely! The only other Option for replacement Bands would be this: Delock Products 18409 Delock Rubber Ring for Mounting of M.2 SSD and Heat Sink black 10 pieces www.delock.com/produkt/18409/merkmale.html
@SillySausage-mq3so
@SillySausage-mq3so Ай бұрын
Is it copper or brass.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy Ай бұрын
Hi@@SillySausage-mq3so, Welcome. Definitely copper. Brass is not well suited for this type of usage.
@SillySausage-mq3so
@SillySausage-mq3so Ай бұрын
@@BuildOrBuy Yeah and China Cares, about you, copper expensive, lots of scams on ebay and such. Getting hard now for china, expecting carboard with copper colored paint :o
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy Ай бұрын
Hello@@SillySausage-mq3so, We suggest purchasing from a reliable source you trust.
@professorh8398
@professorh8398 2 жыл бұрын
The thin copper is for the bottom of the m.2, the thicker copper is for the top, I think.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Professor H, Welcome! Great idea! However, We had a hard enough time stretching those Bands over 1 Copper Plate! Both Copper Plates are of the same thickness. Appreciate Your Comments! Good candidate for a Laptop M.2 NVMe PCIe Heatsink if running PCIe 4.0!
@josipmatic4732
@josipmatic4732 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! In my laptop i have problem, M2 Samsung 970 EVO at bad spot and heat goes up to 110°C in game like PUBG. My laptop is Lenovo Y520. I will defintly buy thin copper sink since I do not have space for bigger.
@josipmatic4732
@josipmatic4732 2 жыл бұрын
I just made DIY heatsink from piece of copper! 3mm thick, polish it, set on thermal paste in tight it with rubber bands! Temperature drop from 92°C to 61°C. Even few pass more with CrystalDisk did not raise temperature! Awesome.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Josip Matić, Welcome! Just now seeing Your message! Appreciate Your Comments! Laptops don't go far enough in helping Us to dissipate heat. Surprisingly, that solid piece of Copper das better than some of the other machined Copper We have looked at. Our concern is those bands. We don't expect them to last.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Josip Matić, Success on ingenuity! Congrats! To reiterate, those Thermal Bands the Manufacturers include may not last as long as We'd like. And regular rubber bands with give out even sooner so keep a watchful eye on Your Temps in case those bands become loose!
@josipmatic4732
@josipmatic4732 2 жыл бұрын
@@BuildOrBuy Company wants profit and we want to work the best, so this is excellent solution!
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
HI@@josipmatic4732, You are so right about that! Our Goals is to Keep it Simple and Make it Work! Appreciate Your Feedback!
@Aloe_shu
@Aloe_shu Жыл бұрын
My m.2 have this warranty sticker, should i remove those before installing it?
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy Жыл бұрын
Hi Shuarem Mondejar, Welcome! Great Question! You can, We do not! The Vendor cannot tell You, You cannot as well. Your choice. We Test and move a lot of Gear around. Therefor, without those Labels We'd have a hard time differentiating products! Hope that helps!
@Aloe_shu
@Aloe_shu Жыл бұрын
@@BuildOrBuy got it, just want to make sure as I'm afraid that it will effect it's cooling. Thank you so much!
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy Жыл бұрын
Hi@@Aloe_shu, We have Tested 16 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Heatsinks. We have Tested all the same in a Default Configuration. In each instance the M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drive has the Label intact. We have 2 other M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Heatsinks that Test far better than this one! Hope that helps!
@joonajks
@joonajks 2 жыл бұрын
Can I use that thermal pad and copper for my nvme m.2 External enclosure?
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Joon kinloch, Welcome! Just now seeing Your message! Too generic a question. Depends upon the Device if there's enough space. Can You be more Specific as to which external Enclosure?
@pelvist
@pelvist Жыл бұрын
You made such a massive task out of something so simple.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy Жыл бұрын
Hi insum snoy, Welcome! Every M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Heatsink We've Tested gets the same fair assessment. So far, We've Tested 16. There are others that Test better than this one.
@nicholasenders5995
@nicholasenders5995 2 жыл бұрын
Hi josh I’m in the comments section
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Corn Flakes, Welcome! Who is josh? What can We help You with?
@nicholasenders5995
@nicholasenders5995 2 жыл бұрын
Hey sorry I didn’t mean to confuse your comment section. My brother and I were watching your video on different devices and I was trying to joke with him. Your video had been very helpful though keep up the great work :)
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
HI@@nicholasenders5995, Understand! Appreciate Your Comment! Thank You both for Watching!! Enjoy!
@admiralspyro9722
@admiralspyro9722 2 жыл бұрын
I didnt understand why you can achive pcie 4 speeds on a pcie 3 slot with the WD sn850?
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Admiral Spyro, Welcome! The Supermicro Dual M.2 NVMe Adapter is just an I/O Card. There is no circuitry on that Add in card such as a PLX Chip to limit Speeds. Speed is dependent upon Motherboard Chipset and M.2 NVMe PCIe Drive. Now PCIe 5.0 will be a different matter where Speeds are Doubled again and heat also increases due to speed. Hope that helps!
@admiralspyro9722
@admiralspyro9722 2 жыл бұрын
@@BuildOrBuy Ah I see thanks!
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
HI@@admiralspyro9722, Yes! Interesting facts! Proof is in the doing!
@OoooomgOmgOmg
@OoooomgOmgOmg 3 жыл бұрын
I get 58°C on one ssd and 62°C on the second ssd (a samsung 970 evo plus) inside a laptop, running the same test without any heatsink. Ambient temperature 23°C. (Room temperature)
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 3 жыл бұрын
Hi OMG OMG, PCIe 3.0 vs PCIe 4.0. You have a Very cool Ambient temperature Compared to what We run by about 10 Degrees! When We get ready to Upgrade the ASUS Laptop, We'll include those stock Temp numbers before We open the Lid! Our ASUS Laptop is also PCIe 3.0! You are well within safe Operating Temperatures! Thanks for Sharing!
@OoooomgOmgOmg
@OoooomgOmgOmg 3 жыл бұрын
@@BuildOrBuy sorry, for ambient temperaure I mean the room temperature.
@OoooomgOmgOmg
@OoooomgOmgOmg 3 жыл бұрын
@@BuildOrBuymaybe the difference is risen by pci 4.0
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 3 жыл бұрын
HI@@OoooomgOmgOmg, Understand. Got it! Same thing from Our perspective!
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 3 жыл бұрын
HI@@OoooomgOmgOmg , For the Drive Temp, yes PCIe 4.0. For the Room Temp, with the Gear in the room yes it's warmer! Lights, Cameras, Video and Audio Gear, etc.
@rexnhogz
@rexnhogz 3 жыл бұрын
I do shit like this all the time with wool socks on rubbing my feet in the carpet and have never had a failure.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Rex n Hogz, Welcome! Glad to know You don't have those problems! We use to not either. However, now We take no chances with ESD on HEDT and Workstation Components. Thanks for Watching!
@bf.258
@bf.258 11 ай бұрын
Bro like a nerd version of grease monkey.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 7 ай бұрын
Hi billyfaizzaly, Welcome! Interesting analogy. Much appreciated!
@AaronMedinis
@AaronMedinis 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, is it ok if I have the copper on both sides of my samsung 980
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi 125_aaron, Welcome! Laptop? Depending upon clearance I would not but only way to know Results would be to try! Test and Verify Results! Watch out for anything that might make electrical contact! The M.2 NVMe will not be the problem. My concern is Heat Dissipation down into PCB instead of up and away. But that's how MSI and Phison views M.2 Heat dissipation through PCB by way of M.2 Connector and M.2 Hold Down Screw. Go figure. Keep Us Posted on Your Progress if You try this! Be careful!
@AaronMedinis
@AaronMedinis 2 жыл бұрын
@@BuildOrBuy yea it's on a laptop and there is about 2 sheets of paper away from the board back side of copper was also grinded away to not make contact the the m.2 plastic connector on the pcb the copper is also not touching the metal post, the top copper is connected with rubber bands. the chip and controller are touching with thermal paste. Will keep you updated
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi@@AaronMedinis, OK! Thank You! Good luck!
@AaronMedinis
@AaronMedinis 2 жыл бұрын
@@BuildOrBuy ssd runs great stays at 43C = 109.4 F, would recomend putting a heatsink on both sides if you have the space, my ram is gskill 16gb 3200 sodimm and also has a copper heatsink from Amazon and seams to run great
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi@@AaronMedinis, Excellent! Don't really think Heat would be much of a problem since Laptops are currently PCIe 3.0. Even though Your Samsung 980 Pro is PCIe 4.0, Your Laptop Chipset keeps that Drive from attaining Speeds that would give cause for concern about Heat. At 7,000 MBps, Yes! At 3,500MBps, no. Thanks for the Update! Glad Your Laptop had room for the Copper Cooler. Most Don't. Cooler is always better! Intel Mobile Chipsets - Latest Mobile and Laptop Chipsets www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/details/chipsets/mobile-chipsets.html
@iyeetsecurity922
@iyeetsecurity922 8 ай бұрын
This guy looks like he like to party by the pool.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 8 ай бұрын
Hello iyeet, Welcome. I use to spend a lot of time outdoors. Been busy. Thanks for Watching.
@ilhanbayramoglu2811
@ilhanbayramoglu2811 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! I don't if anybody tried but I am kinda noob at laptop modding,so I wanted to ask experienced ones! I bought a heatsink that's 6mm thick,and i have Acer Nitro 5 2021 case,I want to apply that heatsink to my ssd. But I am not sure if I have clearence or not. How can I measure it? Or is there any guide for it? Like "it should be 2mm or 3mm maximum" kind of. Thanks in advance!
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi İLHAN BAYRAMOĞLU, Welcome! Sorry to take so long in getting back to You! Working on Filming Videos! A lot of this is trial and error. Only way to know how much space You have, if any, would be to open the Laptop and see. 6mm sounds way too thick. Doubt you have even 2mm. Always Test and Verify! Try a Silicone Thermal Pad of 1mm and stack to determine the height clearance as You replace the cover. If too tight, You'll know very quickly! Hope that helps! Keep Us Posted on Your Progress! Thanks for Asking!
@GrabLifeByDaPoosy
@GrabLifeByDaPoosy Жыл бұрын
@@BuildOrBuy I also have the Acer Nitro 5 and I recently added a second m.2 nvme SSD. Underneath the second one there's a small bundle of wires that I'm worried about getting damaged over time. They have a thick black wrap around the middle but because the connector is wide on each end there's this exposed section of wires closest to the connectors on the end. Does the bottom side of an m.2 nvme SSD get hot or only the chips? I'm wondering if I should possibly try to put a piece of thermal pad in between the m.2 nvme SSD and the wires on top of the motherboard?
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy Жыл бұрын
Hi@@GrabLifeByDaPoosy, Welcome! From what You've described, suggest Insulating tape for non Conductivity. Don't want to get Your Wires crossed! Really! Depending upon Your chosen M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drive. Some have nothing on the back and some might have a copper heatshield on the back. You just have to be prepared! Hope that helps!
@GrabLifeByDaPoosy
@GrabLifeByDaPoosy Жыл бұрын
@@BuildOrBuy Thank you for your response. Does the circuit board get hot on the back side of an m.2 nvme SSD or is it mainly the chips installed on it? It just concerned me that there was wiring so close to the backside of drive. I wasn't sure if I should try to put some insulation between them.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy Жыл бұрын
Hi@@GrabLifeByDaPoosy, Absolutely! Good timing! There's no way to accurately measure Heat from the back in this setup. Memory and Controller Chips gets hot. If the Temp of the Drive goes over the Threshold, expect Throttling. Some Vendors appear to expect Heat to dissipate through the PCB. Doubtful about that scenario. Hope that helps!
@QCode11
@QCode11 3 ай бұрын
@7:27 I can't tell which is the bottom side
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 3 ай бұрын
Hi@@QCode11, Welcome. Good question. Stamped from Copper Sheet. Both sides are same. You can tell by the edge. Smoother edge up. Coarser edge down.
@QCode11
@QCode11 3 ай бұрын
@BuildOrBuy thank you good I got it right!!
@frankjms5269
@frankjms5269 2 жыл бұрын
Scouring the internet to find simple mods to cool my 2022 G14. Hoping this helps a little - fingers crossed. Thank you!
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Frank James Jr. Sclafani, Welcome! Not as many options as We would have expected either! And this was one of 14 Heatsinks We Tested for Desktops with an eye on an ASUS Laptop! That thin piece of copper does better than expected if it fits! Let's hope You have the space. Won't know till You try! Keep Us Posted on Your Progress! Success on Your Upgrade! Thanks for Sharing!
@tankerock
@tankerock Жыл бұрын
curious, how were your results? did you use the same product in this video?
@JohnDoe-sn3sv
@JohnDoe-sn3sv 3 жыл бұрын
Does this work well for ps5?
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 3 жыл бұрын
Hi John Doe, Welcome! Yes! However, We're concerned about the longevity of those Bands. We've Tested quite a few Heatsinks! There are other Heatsinks that will fit! How fast is Your M.2 NVMe Drive? Faster M.2 NVMe PCIe Drives are running hotter!
@JohnDoe-sn3sv
@JohnDoe-sn3sv 3 жыл бұрын
@@BuildOrBuy I recently bought the Samsung 1TB 980 pro, still waiting for this heatsink.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 3 жыл бұрын
Hi@@JohnDoe-sn3sv, Samsung 1TB 980 Pro - Good Choice! The Heatsink should help immensely! To make it even better suggest using different Thermal Pads with a higher Thermal Conductivity rating.
@JohnDoe-sn3sv
@JohnDoe-sn3sv 3 жыл бұрын
@@BuildOrBuy Thanks.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 3 жыл бұрын
HI@@JohnDoe-sn3sv, Absolutely! Here to Help! Thanks for Asking!
@HappyHopping11
@HappyHopping11 Ай бұрын
should have remove the serial no. plastic sticker tag
@SRSMITH555
@SRSMITH555 5 ай бұрын
At any point in this video does this lunatic mention the temperature of the SSD without a heatsink???
@spike378
@spike378 Жыл бұрын
Your one of those professors that make things more complicated than it is.
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy Жыл бұрын
Hello spike378, Welcome! You've just indicated You have not seen the accompanying videos on the other 15 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Heatsinks. Perception and Perspective.
@NCXitlali
@NCXitlali Жыл бұрын
That's why I like him 😅. I need specifics
@ltviktor
@ltviktor 2 ай бұрын
"...not removing the sticker because I wouldnt know which one is which.." :D What a joke. So the whole test is not comparable and totally unscientific from this point on because the man doesnt know how to use a sharpie or take a photo. 🤦‍♂
@BuildOrBuy
@BuildOrBuy 2 ай бұрын
Hello @@ltviktor, Welcome. Thank for your comments. We test a lot of components and a lot of brands. Your results may vary.
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