Explaining Voepass Flight 2283 Crash: How the ATR 72 Accident Happened in Vinhedo, São Paulo, Brazil

[@SimPilotSky]

During a domestic flight in Brazil an atr72 crashed. possible causes were mentioned such as icing or mechanical problems in the engines. the plane came out of the light like a brick. all 61 occupants died. we wish all relatives much strength

[@Guest089-o6q]

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[@SimPilotSky]

@@Guest089-o6q are you sure?

[@Guest089-o6q]

​@@SimPilotSkyYes, I'm Brazilian and I saw the news that there were 62 people, 58 passengers and 4 crew members, one of them had 2 children and a dog...

[@SimPilotSky]

@@Guest089-o6q oh noo very sad for them all. I cant change the video now.

[@JulianaFerreira-r9u]

@@SimPilotSky I'm from Brazil and it was here today that news was reported about the conversations obtained by the plane's black box. It was like this with a lot of screams, indicating that everyone was conscious until the plane fell to the ground. Data extracted from the black boxes indicated that the aircraft suffered a sudden loss of altitude. Upon noticing the crash, the co-pilot stated that it was necessary to "give power" to the aircraft, a measure to try to stabilize the plane. A minute later the impact with the ground occurred, and the recording ends with the sound of passengers' screams and a bang.

[@Yamato_Best_Replays]

Hello, I'm a pilot in the Brazilian Air Force FAB. The Voepass plane that crashed in Vinhedo (SP) underwent maintenance after suffering damage 'structural damage' in March this year. The ATR-72-500 turboprop model had air conditioning problems, hydraulic system failure and abnormal contact with the runway. The problems began on March 11 of this year. Report showed that there was “abnormal contact” between the aircraft and the runway at the time of landing, on a trip from Recife to Salvador. According to the investigation teams, the “abnormal contact” was a collision between the plane's tail and the airport runway. According to what was reported in the company's maintenance system, the accident caused “structural damage” to the aircraft. The aircraft was parked in the capital of Bahia for 17 days, until March 28, and underwent repairs at the Voepass workshop. The plane whose prefix I cannot provide only returned to flight on July 9th, and had an alleged depressurization during the flight. That's all I can say at the moment.

[@misterpercy5187]

A flat spin implies that the aircraft is tail heavy and the tail plane is completely stalled thus pitch control is no longer possible. In normal flight, a tail-heavy plane requires lift from the tail plane to maintain controlled flight. A lifting tail should operate at lower co-efficient of lift than the wings so that the wing will stall first when forward speeds are too low and the tail is still lifting to push the nose down to regain speed. However, if the de-icing boots on the tail plane not working properly allowing more ice accumulation on the tail than on the wings, such that the tail section becomes heavier due to ice accumulation and making the tail plane stalls before the wings, then a flat spin situation will occur. Perhaps the "abnormal contact" to the rear of the aircraft may have done some thing to impair the de-icing system of the tail plane, allowing more ice accumulation there to make the tail heavier and the tail plane more prone to stalling? Please note that it is impossible to put a transport plane into a flat spin when loaded normally, because the tail plane will always provide lift even when the wings have stalled in order to push the nose down. Thus, there is NO WAY that the flight sim would re-enact this type of flat spin. It is just not possible. Only when the tail becomes heavier due to ice accumulation, and the ice roughens the tail surface making it more prone to stalling that a flat spin would occur.

[@Yamato_Best_Replays]

@@misterpercy5187 Context of the ATR Accident Voepass ATR Accident: The accident involving the ATR 72 operated by Voepass (formerly known as Passaredo) occurred in August 2020 when the aircraft veered off the runway during takeoff under adverse weather conditions. Weather Conditions: In Brazil, especially in certain regions, weather conditions can differ significantly from those in other countries. Factors such as high humidity, intense rainfall, and varying temperatures can impact aircraft operations. Flat Spin and Ice Accumulation Flat Spin: A flat spin is a situation where an aircraft spins with the tail stalled and control of pitch is lost. This phenomenon is more commonly associated with high-performance aircraft and is not typically encountered in normal operations of commercial aircraft. Ice Accumulation and De-icing Systems: Ice accumulation can affect an aircraft by reducing the efficiency of both the tailplane and the wings. De-icing systems, such as de-icing boots, are designed to prevent ice formation and ensure safe operation. Failures in these systems can lead to dangerous conditions, including tailplane stall. Climatic Differences and Aircraft Impact: In Brazil, tropical climate conditions may not typically result in significant ice formation compared to colder climates in other countries. However, adverse weather conditions such as heavy rain and wind can still have a significant impact on aircraft performance. Flight Simulators Simulators and Weather Conditions: Flight simulators have limitations in accurately replicating all weather conditions and specific scenarios. They may not precisely reproduce the effects of ice accumulation or other weather-specific variables that occur in real-life environments. Conclusion For the Voepass ATR accident, it is important to consider the specific weather conditions at the location, the integrity of the de-icing systems, and the aircraft's operation under those conditions. While a flat spin is a rare situation typically associated with specific performance aircraft, failures in de-icing systems and adverse weather conditions can contribute to critical events. If there are more specific details about the accident that need to be discussed or clarified, please provide further information.

[@carmenleticiadominguezrami7254]

No entiendo cómo es que el avión ya tenía varias anomalías y le permitieron seguir volando

[@Yamato_Best_Replays]

@@carmenleticiadominguezrami7254 Fico me perguntando a mesma coisa, imprudencia no Brasil e o que não falta inclusive de empresas que ao inves de solucionar os problemas e manter as coisas em ordem eles simplesmente optar por ignorar e a consequencia e a queda e a morte de 62 pessoas.

[@NatashaMagalhaes1986]

Irresponsáveis, colocam a vida de todos em risco,isso é Brasil abandonado!!!

[@andrewrobinson8305]

Once a t-tail plane stalls, it’s virtually impossible to recover. This is just like the Pulkovo 612 crash in 2006.

[@SimPilotSky]

@@andrewrobinson8305 what hpoened there exactly?? Do you have a flight number of that??

[@Randomly_Browsing]

That's not the case,Tu-154 is prone to stall at certain angle

[@alexandreleite2541]

Another ART-72 had electrical problems yesterday. It was diverted to Minas Gerais, its final destination was São Paulo, Guarulhos Airport - GRU.

[@mpoyart]

RIP crew and passagens of Voepass 2283.

[@SimPilotSky]

RIp

[@rad9738]

why would you put people screaming: isn't the situation tragic enough

[@SimPilotSky]

That shows the reality. This video title says how it crashed, so thats the reason why it hppened so

[@romerophotography7357]

What are you 12?

[@andrewrobinson8305]

Definitely no need to artificially add the sound of screaming.

[@rad9738]

@@andrewrobinson8305 lets think about the family of people who died in this tragic event.

[@Ahlen_avgeek_gd]

@@rad9738 yes

[@GrandmaKeith]

Crashing through that pickup truck was the cause of the plane doing down.

[@SimPilotSky]

I think so too. Maybe something came loose during this collision

[@devilsfavorite999]

Lol.

[@rgedge]

Unless the design has changed. There is no “defroster”. There is an ice detecting system on the side of the forward fuselage. Pneumatic boots on the leading edge of the wings. The boots were redesigned after the Roselawn Indiana crash in the 90s. Severe icing was deemed the cause. But the CVR indicated the pilots weren’t even reacting to the ice detection alerts. I flew the atr42 in canada for 3 years with no issues whatsoever It’s too early to make any speculations about this accident..

[@SimPilotSky]

Thats maybe a reason why it could crashed, but it can also be another reason. That was actuallly what I thought in first reaction

[@KevellynKauane]

Deus sempre abençoe nossa vida até hj tô muito ferida desse avião 😢

[@douglasdotv]

I find this video weird. First because nobody knows what occurred, so the description is misleading. Secondly because the only information we have recorded in video (the flat spin) is not accurately depicted at all. Also, the screams and the music… lol, really?

[@wesleytodos2904]

The problem is not the simulation itself, but rather its elements. I found it unnecessary and totally pointless to put that audio of screams inside the cabin.....A recent accident that occurred in August, and yet, 3 days later they did this simulation. Even though almost 4 months have passed since the tragedy, it is an immense pain and a lack of respect to add these sounds of screams....

[@blogueirinhonaativa8083]

Meu Deus que triste imagina o desespero das pessoas dentro do avião o avião caindo e ninguém poder fazer nada .

[@SimPilotSky]

Puedes ver que la vida a veces es muy corta y de repente te toma por sorpresa. ojalá no sufrieran mucho

[@Evandroserri]

Verdade.

[@pablogameryt8028]

Sim isso foi triste por que a menina foi passa o dias dos pais com o pai e morreu com o pai no aviao

[@galaxygamer9069]

This is exactly what makes me afraid every time I fly (and I love share it with others) the feeling that I’m enclosed there above the sky which is not in human’s nature to fly and seems impossible to do something to help my self… around us just wild sky and wind inhospitable environment this is the scariest feeling…

[@devairfavaro]

Foi aqui na minha cidadde...vinhedo sp brasil..tenho um comércio proximo..se ele cai 1 km para frente iria atingir uma escola gigantesca junto com uma rodoviária lotada...mas Deus segurou

[@SimPilotSky]

Hablamos entonces de mucha suerte, pero por otro lado menos suerte para el avión.

[@Canal_duda_e_helena]

Também sou brasileira 😸

[@esporteclubecajuru]

@@SimPilotSkyYou add unnecessary screams and then writes in spanish to a portuguese comment?

[@uçanuçak.25]

merhabalar hocam, bir sorum olacak. gerçek hayatta uçakların ILS yaklaşma sırasında yaşadığı sorunlar veya teknik aksaklıklar var mıdır? sinyaldeki kesinti veya parazitler gibi... bununla ilgili bidiğiniz bir kaza kırım var mıdır ? çok teşekkürler.

[@SimPilotSky]

Benim bildigim yok ancak ils antenine bir saldiri yada devrilme gibi birsey olursa ucaktaki ils baglanti gider. Cok basit bir teori

[@fancyman4205]

The explosions and edited screams is a tad bit too much and too soon for this tragic event to be displayed this way

[@SimPilotSky]

@@fancyman4205 this is roughly how it went. reality can be harsh sometimes.

[@krist6074]

@@SimPilotSky then why not add the icing conditions? This didn't happen on a clear sunny day.

[@Randomly_Browsing]

​@@krist6074Aero Caribbean: am I a joke to you?

[@WorldofairportsPhilippines]

Bro just like it he edited hard

[@tundrajt]

This crash almost exactly mirrors the incident in 1994 in Indiana with American Eagle Flight 4184. Same plane. Same altitude. Same demise. Nearly the same amount of occupants. And if the icing scenario did bring this one down, it would be the exact same cause. I remember 4184 well because I was a young man of 15 who was fascinated by aviation from a young age. It shocked and saddened me and led me to a vow of never stepping foot on an ATR aircraft. All these years later, I never have.

[@CelsoReis-h6d]

Fiquei muito triste em ver esse vídeo e o desespero dos passageiros 😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@DELFELECTRICIDAD]

De los Aprox 1100 ATR 72 que se fabricaron Sólo 13 se estrellaron pero 3 de ellos por causa de la formación de hilo y este podría ser el 4 si se confirma la hipótesis.

[@Zorroxyz123]

Could lowering the landing gears and deploying flaps help the plane out of flat spin?

[@huulamtran6701]

Or ATR-42

[@SPRUNKIBLACKOFFICIAL]

They update it was 62 passengers now

[@SimPilotSky]

Unfortunately

[@SPRUNKIBLACKOFFICIAL]

But 1 survivor

[@Randomly_Browsing]

@@SPRUNKIBLACKOFFICIAL source?

[@SPRUNKIBLACKOFFICIAL]

@@Randomly_Browsing What do you mean source?

[@WorldofairportsPhilippines]

​@@SPRUNKIBLACKOFFICIALThere's no survivors there

[@milliyetcimateryalist]

If ice build-up is noticed, the defroster should be turned on.

[@SimPilotSky]

That's the problem now that probably didn't work if that was the case on this flight

[@peteconrad2077]

It’s not that simple. De icing boots have to be used carefully or they are ineffective.

[@SimPilotSky]

Is that turning on automaticslly or is that used by manually!?

[@peteconrad2077]

@@SimPilotSky they can be automatic, but you have to select the automatic mode on most of them, but I’m not familiar with the ATR itself.

[@SimPilotSky]

@@peteconrad2077 oh oke on that way I understand. Something went terrible wrong is this flight but we will hear soon

[@marildasantos5871]

Eu imagino o desespero desse povo sabendo que o avião estava caindo e ninguém podia fazer nada Deus de um bom lugar a todos eles

[@JuliusMlengeswa]

We are very sorry for the loss of our fellow human being in different age and sex. We ask the Lord to protect us from such events. We have as well heard from former pilots and professionals in field, expressing about possible causes of the accident. Icing has been mentioned by many. Has what is mentioned here saved some of our planes:- “Rubber-like 'boots' attached to the leading edges of wings and tail surfaces rapidly inflate and deflate, breaking away any ice attached to the surface.” Let us do more researches which could lead in improving technologies on our planes to prevent further loss of human and properties

[@ghtaboma]

That screaming is exactly what happens when passengers feel they are in danger. I was on a DC6 out of Mexico City approaching L. A., California. It was a bumpy approach to LAX, and the people thought we were crashing. They Started wailing just like this video .

[@SimPilotSky]

@@ghtaboma I understand you have fond memories of this flight?

[@ghtaboma]

@@SimPilotSky I was taking flying lessons at the time and was familiar with bumpy air currents.

[@SimPilotSky]

@@ghtaboma those are terrible moments to experience. during my student days I also had some turbulent flights

[@CANAL_MEGA_SHoW_VÍDE0s_1753]

Today another Voepass ATR 72 suffered a breakdown and made an emergency landing

[@SimPilotSky]

Woooww whats going on bruhh where was that???

[@Jevaera]

I have a theory, I collected data on flight radar and before the plane crashed, the plane had dropped -1,000 f/m and suddenly the plane climbed +20,000 f/m and after that it experienced a flat spin. is it human error or a mechanical error in the aircraft because it is impossible for the aircraft to suddenly climb more than +10,000 f/m without human or mechanical error. was that on purpose? Is this a conspiracy from the state? was this purely an accident due to mechanical failure? Or my theory is wrong? So what about yall think? sorry my English is still lacking (skill issue) that's just my theory

[@SimPilotSky]

20.000+????? It looks like it goes with the nose full upwards and then came down like a flat spin 😢

[@peteconrad2077]

1. Flight radar isn’t necessarily accurate. 2. You haven’t given a theory.

[@SimPilotSky]

@@peteconrad2077I dont need a theory my friend. this is a gut feeling

[@peteconrad2077]

@@SimPilotSky 1. You said you had a theory. 2. You didn’t even tell us what you gut instinct is.

[@falltuid573]

THIS ATR HAS BEEN A TROUBLE ALL THE TIMES

[@lr2ldn]

Those poor people!!!

[@gachakira167]

That looked so scary😭 i dont wanna experience it im never going on an plain😭

[@SimPilotSky]

@@gachakira167 don't worry there are so many planes flying around the world that the chance that your plane will crash is so small

[@donquinotexx]

L'avion est tombé en chute libre d'une altitude de 1250 mètres, lorsqu'il a commencé à descendre

[@rodrigorochacoutinho3792]

That' s an awfull tragedy that happened two days before " theFather's Day" in Brazil. As we have already known that the captain was an excellent pilot and very attentive to every passangers! We believe that it occured by some negligence of the Voepass Airlines president that did not repair the Antice System of this airplane in 2023, so the ice covered the wings and provoked the flat Spin fall and the tragic crash. 😢😢

[@ezequielsanuy8895]

The reverse mechanism in the propeller failed and get activated... That's why the plane was rotating that way it does... One propeller was pushing forward while the other was pushing back. Unreliable and unsafe mechanism.

[@SimPilotSky]

Uhh thats a big difference. from what I hear, the maintenance did not go well

[@peteconrad2077]

Very unlikely.

[@SimPilotSky]

@@peteconrad2077 but there is a very good chance that the plane crashed because of something with the wings

[@peteconrad2077]

@@SimPilotSky that’s like saying there a good chance that someone died by not living any more. It covers just about everything. Hardly an idea.

[@karaoke127]

how would you know how the plane was rotating ?? From this bad simulation ? Forget it !!!

[@diogocarioca83]

62 Passangers and one dog.

[@Devid-W.P]

Más ele n caiu rodando mano muito triste essa tragédia qui aconteceu 😢🇧🇷🤝👍

[@huulamtran6701]

ATR 72?

[@JhonathaneTheo]

What is the name of the first song? (music)

[@FoxtronX]

this aircraft stalled, and pilots failed to recover it from stall.maybe a human error but seems ATR 72 Technical issue.History of ATR 72 CRASHS shows the engines malfunctioning shifting props to feather in mid flight.

[@MrSuzuki1187]

I believe after they stalled instead of pushing forward on the elevator control to break the stall, the pilots made the rookie mistake and pulled aft to try to stop the descent and held back elevator until impact this keeping their airplane stalled.

[@SimPilotSky]

Maybe if they turned of or throttle on idle position they hd more chance to survive. But this is a speculation of course

[@myxsun]

Hi! I am from Brazil, and sadly its 62 now... (confirmed)

[@SimPilotSky]

@@myxsun ok we understand very bad situation that there is another one die in the flight

[@jarr_53]

Is this animated or is it MSFS or some other simulator

[@misterpercy5187]

A flat spin implies that the aircraft is tail heavy and the tail plane is completely stalled thus pitch control is no longer possible. In normal flight, a tail-heavy plane requires lift from the tail plane to maintain controlled flight. A lifting tai should operate at lower co-efficient of lift than the wings so that the wing will stall first when forward speeds are too low and the tail is still lifting to push the nose down to regain speed. However, if the de-icing boots on the tail plane not working properly allowing more ice accumulation on the tail than on the wings, such that the tail section becomes heavier due to ice accumulation and making the tail plane stalls before the wings, then a flat spin situation will occur. Please note that it is impossible to put a transport plane into a flat spin when loaded normally, because the tail plane will always provide lift even when the wings have stalled in order to push the nose down. Thus, there is NO WAY that the flight sim would re-enact this type of flat spin. It is just not possible. Only when the tail becomes heavier due to ice accumulation, and the ice roughens the tail surface making it more prone to stalling that a flat spin would occur.

[@SimPilotSky]

Mhh interesting

[@marcg1686]

@@misterpercy5187 For a plane to enter a flat spin it first has to enter a stall. It doesn't have to be tail-heavy, but it does have to be stalled.

[@misterpercy5187]

@@marcg1686 -- You don't have to believe me. Just ask Google: "can a balanced plane enter a flat spin?" Google AI answers: "No, a balanced plane should not enter a flat spin if the pilot has properly checked the aircraft's weight and balance before flight. A flat spin can occur if the plane is loaded incorrectly, or if the center of gravity (CG) is too far aft (toward the tail) of the aircraft. " "Luckily, modern aircraft are designed to resist getting into a flat spin. There's only one way it can happen-by loading the aircraft incorrectly. If the pilot has completed their weight and balance before the flight and ensured that the plane is loaded within its CG limits, entering a flat spin will not be possible." However, an aerobatic plane is flown taill-heavy in order to do snaps and flat spins, and can recover from flat spins because it has a big propeller up front to give a strong wind blast to the rudder and elevators to recover from flat spin. On planes without direct air blast over the rudder and elevators, recovering from a flat spin is nearly impossible.

[@marcg1686]

@@misterpercy5187 For a plane to enter a flat spin it needs to be in a stalled condition first. I don't need to ask Google anything. I'll just go with what an ATR instructor tells me. The crew ignored all APM warnings, entered a stall whilst banking to the right AND THEN APPLIED RIGHT RUDDER. What happened is understood. Why the crew exhibited such poor airmanship has yet to be determined.

[@misterpercy5187]

@@marcg1686 -->>>>>>>>"For a plane to enter a flat spin it needs to be in a stalled condition first." Reply: Of course, that is so obvious, no disagreement here. The crew repeatedly ignored icing condition warnings, and ice accumulated on the tail planes, making the tail heavy and distorted air flow over the tail surfaces causing the tail planes to enter a stall for which the elevators and rudders are no longer effective for recovery. So the learning point here is get out of icing immediately, do NOT rely solely on the icing boots to fly extended time during icing condition. Icing condition is very DEADLY. This is the take-home lesson for all aviators.

[@Gamball_85k6]

Game name:???

[@Atumalaca-q4z]

Data:voepass maritaca flight 2283 state são Paulo airplane model atr 72-600 everyone in peace 🕊️

[@dedearaujo8462]

Um avião dessa mesma imprensa VOEPASS já trabalhou aqui em carauari Amazonas nos chamávamos de map mas ele não trabalha mais aqui agora trabalha pra GOL

[@Gus1966-c9o]

It did not hit the ground at full speed . Have you not seen the video footage? More like 100 miles an hour .

[@nelsonribeirobernadonelsonribe]

@@Gus1966-c9o 😰😰😰😰😰🥹😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😥😥😥😥😥😰😨😱

[@micksmicester4488]

We can think of many plausible cause for this tragic event! One thing is certain though...."the plane wings stalled and entered into an unrecoverable flat spin" - what caused the spin initially, will have to be determined by investigators.

[@SimPilotSky]

we will see in due course what the reason for the crash was. we would have preferred it not to have crashed

[@eduardodaquiljr9637]

Why not install camera and sensor to detect icing?

[@SimPilotSky]

@@eduardodaquiljr9637 that is all too hard to simulate. do you have any idea how to do that?

[@eduardodaquiljr9637]

@@SimPilotSky yes I have,

[@SimPilotSky]

Can you tell me how to do that?

[@kevinc6763]

I learned that the word controle now has an E at the end of it.

[@SimPilotSky]

@@kevinc6763 why are you so concerned about a spelling mistake instead of focusing on a video explaining how a plane crashed.

[@lindahoffman2692]

BULL is a good Description for this Channel!! NOTHING is “explained” here!!

[@americanaviation556]

I think the aircraft stalled out. I looked on playback and the speed showed around 30 knots.

[@SimPilotSky]

@@americanaviation556 that is a considerably low speed for an airplane. it doesn't surprise me that the plane then comes down

[@VanessaMartins-kl7tb]

eu moro em Brasil foi uma tragedia

[@FUN-54563]

Esse acidente realmente é muito triste e eu brasileiro estou com coração partido😢

[@MarcosVyniciusSilvadaSil-tc3to]

Foi muito triste o acidente 😢/The accident was very sad 😢 (sou do estado do Pará-Brasil /I'm from the state of Pará-Brazil )

[@EdgarSanchez-ss9qi]

"Making it impossible and difficult to regain control" ...also what's with the epic movie music?

[@SimPilotSky]

They have to design a system that recovers automacally at the moment that the plane gets in same situation

[@fuscaazul6558]

I lost a friend on that flight....

[@SimPilotSky]

how awful to experience something like this. condolences my friend

[@canaltophits5573]

Sem necessidade esses gritos.

[@galipkarakilic]

sad..... The passengers: RIP

[@SimPilotSky]

Thank you for the sympathy of the victims and the survivors. I want to say that I will never experience this again, but as long as there are flights this will continue to happen I suspect

[@johnchang3807]

Atr 72 not used in usa due icing issue, so poor Brazilian flying on the 2nd hand planes that no countries really want it.

[@SimPilotSky]

too bad that these planes are still in use in Brazil. I also have a bad idea that planes are poorly maintained there.

[@sharelove469]

People screaming terryfied me 😢 i know is edited video but we cant imagine people inside there what they felt in those seconds its horrible 😢😢😢😢

[@mikaelgames88]

Dont was 61 ocuppants, was 62, 4 of crew and 58 of passangers

[@SimPilotSky]

how do you know that for sure

[@pdspartner1]

Icing is not possible without visible moisture. Your depiction shows a severe clear day so ice cannot form in your simulation.

[@animalboost8667]

@@pdspartner1 you are a seeker

[@SimPilotSky]

since this is a simulator i did it on a clear day for clear image. its true that there must be clouds for iks formation

[@Sherlock245]

@@SimPilotSky pls redo the simulation and crate a stall that was not a stall. And ice was not the leading factor into cashing the plane to crash.

[@SimPilotSky]

@@Sherlock245one video is enough. I cant make another video about a tragedic accident 😢

[@Sherlock245]

@@SimPilotSky others done it not just a bad accident it killed so many doctors and will redefine braizilan airplane industry once investigations beewrap up.

[@sdfft820]

These icing accidents didn’t happen to Fokker F27s or An-24s but only to ATRs. Why?

[@ahmadsantoso9712]

The plane was made by the French and Italians, not a shock it happened.

[@peteconrad2077]

Having flown European and American aircraft I can assure you, Europe makes better aircraft.

[@SimPilotSky]

what could it have been due to? europe or america?

[@peteconrad2077]

@@SimPilotSky that doesn’t mean anything.

[@junior_gamer2K]

acidente trágico, matando 62 pessoas aqui no Brasil, com certeza muito triste 😢

[@carmenleticiadominguezrami7254]

Dios santo pobre gente que desesperación y miedo debieron de haber sentido en esos momentos, QEPD señor dales fortaleza a sus familiares

[@PitoTubu]

I appreciate your efforts to inform people, but I find this video based on assumptions since even the preliminary report has not been released yet. Therefore, the title "How the ATR 72 Accident Happened" is just a clickbait.

[@alanchavesfoz7699]

Isso foi muito 😢

[@SimPilotSky]

Iam sorry for the sadnes my friend

[@alanchavesfoz7699]

@@SimPilotSky 🙌

[@greggrondale5741]

Wrong Attitude is depicted here

[@animalboost8667]

seriously. are you going to care? as if the crash was altitude dependent? 😂

[@SimPilotSky]

On flightradar it gives this altitude, so its about and not exactly

[@andrewrobinson8305]

“Attitude”, not “altitude”. Don’t you know the difference??

[@SimPilotSky]

@@andrewrobinson8305 we are talking about altitude here and not attitude of the plane someone please explain the difference to him😂

[@misterpercy5187]

By "wrong attitude", I suppose he meant that the real aircraft went into a flat spin with the fuselage and the nose in horizontal attitude, instead of a regular spin as depicted in this video with the nose pointing down. A flat spin implies that the aircraft is tail heavy and the tail plane is completely stalled thus pitch control is no longer possible. In normal flight, a tail-heavy plane requires lift from the tail plane to maintain controlled flight. A lifting tai should operate at lower co-efficient of lift than the wings so that the wing will stall first when forward speeds are too low and the tail is still lifting to push the nose down to regain speed. However, if the de-icing boots on the tail plane not working properly allowing more ice accumulation on the tail than on the wings, such that the tail section becomes heavier due to ice accumulation and making the tail plane stalls before the wings, then a flat spin situation will occur. Please note that it is impossible to put a transport plane into a flat spin when loaded normally, because the tail plane will always provide lift even when the wings have stalled in order to push the nose down. Thus, there is NO WAY that the flight sim would re-enact this type of flat spin. It is just not possible. Only when the tail becomes heavier due to ice accumulation, and the ice roughens the tail surface making it more prone to stalling that a flat spin would occur.

[@JhonathaneTheo]

5:30 the spin😢

[@paulobahiense6137]

Absurdo esse vídeo! Qual a necessidade??

[@maxieduardoapariciom.3181]

Airplane intrinsic bad design

[@Ilovehooping419]

6:37 BRO THAT WAS NOT A REAL EXPLOSION

[@theREALDanteStone]

Was he supposed to hand paint a real explosion lmao

[@SimPilotSky]

@@Ilovehooping419 if you want a real explosion then you better get in a real plane once. if you are lucky then it goes down then you will be able to see real explosion

[@SimPilotSky]

@@theREALDanteStone lol

[@ethicseo]

Jesus can change your life ❤️

[@Rhalejandt]

El ATR tiene alas muy angostas y muy cortas el planeo en vuelo natural es critico.

[@SimPilotSky]

No tengo experiencia con este tipo de aviones. debes tener razón. especialmente cuando se trata de un avión de pasajeros

[@paulneto-e2n]

Só achei estranho no vídeo essa colisão com a caminhonete na decolagem. Isso não foi mencionado em nenhum momento nas investigações que por enquanto ainda são preliminares. E a caixa preta não foi divulgada. Portanto esse som de gritos. Não existe.

[@stephanslofstra]

Van 43 seconden op zoek heeft aan auto raakt van achterkant vliegtuig daarom neerstort

[@SimPilotSky]

Ja ik denk het ook die auto zat gewoon in de weg

[@Ik_RpYT]

Name game

[@MegalodonShorts]

Bro, the preliminar relatory from CENIPA and FAB is so vonfuse

[@lenimedeiros9696]

😮😮😮😢😢😢😢

[@Ahlen_avgeek_gd]

5:21 Crash time😢

[@SimPilotSky]

@@Ahlen_avgeek_gd very sad moments

[@JhonathaneTheo]

​@@SimPilotSky yes😢😢😢

[@CARLOSEduardoMoura-v7z]

No 61 and yes 62 passagers

[@minhtrinhthe897]

Bruh this is completely wrong

[@SimPilotSky]

Can you explain instead of shouting something without being able to argue it?

[@minhtrinhthe897]

The plane first dipped down and then violently up then stalled and flatspinned I should have explained sorry

[@CelioMario-r9n]

Misericórdia senhor 😮😢😥🙄😬✈️

[@ErestNueva-c5m]

5:59 pull up

[@Henrique-m6i]

Lamentamos muito está tragédia aérea , vão todos com deus

[@Gus1966-c9o]

Ice 🧊

[@SimPilotSky]

most likely ice formation on the wings caused the fall, but it could have been something else

[@Simon-s7c5g]

5:05 😢😢

[@Davi-y6x]

q triste 😢😢

[@CarlosAlvarez-mc4qu]

Que en paz descansen 😢

[@HelenaDias-ty5uu]

Qual foi do bagulho

[@FrancielSouza-k6r]

Todos viram o final de suas vidas.

[@QATAR_AVIATION9535]

NO IS BRAZIL IS BRASIL

[@TC_NITO]

1:38 1:38 1:39 1:39 1:43

[@MérciaMarques-s1d]

O sangue de Cristo tem poder meu Deus toma a frente espírito santo de Deus, 🥺

[@Kallel-h1t]

Im from brasil😢

[@Anthonyth1ngs]

Que todas as pessoas que se foram neste acidente encontrem a luz. Um acidente na aviação nunca é em vão.

[@Gabriel-tm2jh]

Que vídeo mais mentiroso e mequetrefe . Desde quando a picape vai ficar parada na pista daquele jeito ? É desde quando o piloto ia passar por cima da picape ?

[@rashidohuso45]

@@Gabriel-tm2jh you are not on track

[@Canal_duda_e_helena]

😭😢😢😢😢

[@Star81840]

o no 0:17

[@Star81840]

ok lets go 0:36

[@LisaMiller-g8v]

Shanahan Highway