Review .25 Airforce Condor

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[@BullseyeBob]

The best review on the Condor I've seen!

[@romeoalphafoxtrot9517]

Outstanding review! Best I have ever seen. I plan on ordering a Condor .25 next week. I will use all of the information here. Much appreciated!

[@ronaldmoffett3498]

Really enjoyed your "educational " review. I purchased my .25 caliber Escape in 2016. Loved this rifle. Very accurate and powerful. Looking forward to other reviews and information videos!

[@midwesttreasureandrelicrec7914]

I have the condor ss in .25 with a polished aftermarket tophat with the inserts. The reason for choosing the shorter gun was to negate the flex in the longer gun, then adding the weight of the aftermarket suppressor at the barrle end when the weak point like you said is at the bottle housing Exaggerates frame flex. Also for Many people shooting mostly pellets had keeps the feet per 2nd down around that magic number that pellets love much easier. My .25 ss with 18" barrel With the medium insert Is shooting the 33.9 grain MKII JSb's at 875fps and usually 1"-1.2" groups at 100 starting at around 2800 psi

[@midwesttreasureandrelicrec7914]

Very good review I should have started with that! Cudos.

[@WillRomansAirgunworld]

bullfrog i had the same Condor in 25 cal it takes time to get used too it... iv taken a lot of hogs out with this air rifle great job on this video. thank you.

[@jamesd.5940]

Add a Talon Tunes Quad Rail and it locks up the entire barrel tight with the frame. I have a .22 that will drill 1/2” at 100 yards all day when tethered to a step down in-line reg. Using 27-32 grain .2175” Griffin RBT slugs it’s phenomenal. I’ve owned .257 with Lilja 1:14 for 72 grain. The 1:17.5 twist can handle the 28-32 quite well. Ideally at 940-1080 you’re set. My barrel is also still choked but lapped. .2170” might work for different barrels

[@garyhaslam2217]

so happy to see you back i hope your back to stay more please thanks bull frog

[@feellnfroggy]

Been waiting for another vid bud, glad to see you back on the horse. I know how busy life gets, especially for certain jobs. I completely understand, but pretty stoked about this.

[@2008trebor]

you can change the older condors valves to the newer condor valves to get that extra power . airforce has a valve kit you can change out .

[@TPVPRO]

Man you are on point with this review. They are extremely hold sensitive I have 2 and if I don't shoot it for 6 months it takes me 100 shots to remember what she likes.

[@Jaden48108]

My Condor in .25 caliber has no trouble making tight groups at 50 yards using JSB pellets (I like the Express JSB). It's damn loud though . . . as mine is not suppressed. Lately I've been experimenting with Predator GTO .25 caliber at 16.54 grains. The groups get a little wider but holy cow talk about loud. Much louder than a .22 rimfire. I'm fairly certain the pellet would pass through any medium size game animal using the GTO. That's probably not a good thing as energy is not fully transferred. Which is why I like the Predator with the ballistic tip . . . it penetrates then expands. Accuracy is more than adequate. The accuracy on your gun is VERY impressive.

[@fredmaner6551]

Nice review! Well done, it’s apparent you actually own and actively shoot this gun. Thanks for sharing your practical experience using this air rifle.

[@Dont_lose_sight]

excellent information, thanks for the efforts and explanations.

[@Florida_Bullfrog]

Thank you!

[@macholinmartinez8412]

Bro thanks so much for honesty! No doubt about it pcp has a steep learning curve,,,and saying this thing is quirky is a good heads up for a guy considering this thing,,,,Good stuff keep them coming!

[@punkyroo]

Just subscribed. I just bought my first air rifle. A really basic .177. Looking to try a .25

[@Tofazfou]

Good Video FB. Enjoyed it and the information was well presented

[@rudychavira5558]

I'll take that all day long, 50 looks great too what pellet gr are you using

[@Florida_Bullfrog]

I think these were mostly JSB 25 gns

[@LoneWOLF-ku7mf]

I have a 25 Condor & find it to be a very good gun. Your best bet is to get or should I say add a MadDog stock to it & you will find you shooting will improve a great deal. I have added a new Talon Tunes hammer also. All in all, with just a few modifications you will find it is one hell of gun

[@freshcharge]

Talon tunes breach transfer port is made of aluminum. I got one and I'm very happy with it.

[@LoneWOLF-ku7mf]

Hea, I am thinking of getting the 25 cal Condor later on in the year. I would like to know more on your molds for this gun if you can give me some info.

[@traviscardinell2567]

First I wanna say great job on the review VERY INFORMATIVE second I wanna say thank you. You just saved me money I hate sensitive hold guns i was looking for a gun in that price range with that power but I guess I'll buy another FX

[@fred9532]

These do have their quarks. I watched a manhit soda cans at 440 yards also with a modified version, so I do know the issues can be worked out. I'm working on the long range version. Good luck. How's the Wicked Air Flex ?

[@Florida_Bullfrog]

The .30 Flexes I have are still performing well. My long Flex, which I have never reviewed on my channel, gave me some frustrations but those seem to be worked out now. My short Flex, which is the Flex I reviewed, has been totally upgraded to current specs. I now run it with a red dot site instead of a scope to save weight. Its my most versatile woods-walking gun for everything except deer.

[@johnaverick7468]

I talked to you a year or two ago. When you gonna show me how to breakdown my Airforce Talon to fix my wobbly bolt ? If you don't want to meet up with me here in central FL. , I understand. Maybe a breakdown video ? And how are those chickens you came up with doing so far Bullfrog ?

[@fred9532]

I got a new tank , the extreme high flow with the ring loc system. It's more powerful than the 2014 valve, which is what mine is. Bought it new, but its older. Cheap though.

[@Florida_Bullfrog]

Yes my brother's 2018 Condor is a powerhouse. He's been killing coyotes with his with lung shots using 60 grain hps him and I cast.

[@BushCampingTools]

Am excellent review on this model! I just (sent u a PM) ,aged to get myself (well unfortunately only in 0.22Cal) the Shadow which was marketed in the UK but the export model and FAC model only, so it's not been modified at the factory to remove the hammer adjustment. it was sitting on the shelf in the shop for almost ten years and they sold it to me at a 50% off price LOL! The barrels in perfect condition and should be a good project to get running after all this time. Why is the breech made from plastic?

[@Florida_Bullfrog]

I don't know why they make the breech from plastic. Aluminum would be so much better.

[@LegionarHR]

If I want this gun to be accurate, should I buy some mods or I should just get used to it? In Croatia we dont have mods for airguns

[@russellfredrick6519]

Great review, thank you.

[@Hunttip]

Great video! Can you tell me the size of the breech o ring you replaced, and are they all the same size or caliber specific?

[@Florida_Bullfrog]

011. I've tried both Silocone and Buna-N. The Buna-N seems to be better.

[@thomass8362]

Bullfrog- I can't help but wonder why you bought the Condor after already having the Flex? Is it just because the Condor is .25 caliber or is it because you also have an addiction to air guns in general? Just wondering.. Thanks again for the videos because you provide a lot of good knowledge and first hand experience.

[@Florida_Bullfrog]

It was a couple of reasons. One was I wanted a magnum powered .25. Another was because I wanted to own an Airforce style gun after liking my brother’s Texan. And finally I’ve got to the point where I’d have multiple airguns set up for different tunes and purposes than one or two I try to use as all purposes.

[@thomass8362]

@@Florida_Bullfrog - Thanks for the honest answer! Even though I have a couple high end PCP's and a bunch of mid level (300-$600) PCP's I can't stop thinking about the AF rifles like the Condor in .25. I probably wouldn't use it much for hunting, but mainly for 100+ yard target and field shooting. I want something that I can refine into a powerful and accurate target gun. Do you think I would be happy with the Condor or should I be looking more at the Texan in say .308? Sorry for the long reply, but I have come to value your knowledge and honest answers! Stay safe Brother

[@Florida_Bullfrog]

The newest .25 Condors are beasts with their factory valving. 120-130fpe easy with cast bullets. Those would probably be decent long range guns. But I don’t shoot mine that far and the Texan platform is tested and proven at long range. I’d look into a .308. I’m also hearing, but cannot confirm, that .308 and .257 Texans are identical except for the barrel. If that’s true, you could buy one and switch back and two with an extra barrel.

[@THEDC81025]

Great video where did you get your Silencer from? And with the silencer is it back yard friendly?

[@richscream]

What casting irons are you using for your 65 grain bullet ? I would like to start casting for my condor.

[@Florida_Bullfrog]

Bob’s Boattails from NOE molds.

[@anilabbaraju1]

Hi nice review what is the maximum power this rifle can produce what are the adjustments I need to get that power

[@trinitymaker5833]

Bullfrog, are you shooting the 33.94gr JSB's or the 25gr JSB's? Also, have you found the magic combo of FPS/FPE to maximize accuracy? I have the same gun (HIGHLY modified) and I'm pushing the 33.94 pellets at 930 FPS at the muzzle. I know if you shoot a pellet too fast, it will destabilize in flight and spin off. And if you shoot it too slow, it will do the same. So, have you played around to find the best combination to maximize accuracy? I'm more interested in the long range stuff. That's why I modified the heck out of my gun. I agree with all of the issues that you pointed out, but many can be overcome by aftermarket upgrades. Thank you for the review however. I enjoyed it.

[@Florida_Bullfrog]

I'm shooting the 25 gn JSBs when the gun is tuned for around 50-55fpe. It loves them. That seems to be about the best balance between speed, quietness, power, and shot count. I have shot the gun very little at 100 yards, although on good days I get touching groups at 100 yards on my gong target both at low (55fpe) and high power (120fpe w/ slugs).

[@michaeljoyce3153]

Hey bullfrog Mike here. I was wondering if you could do a video on bugs that cab eaten and how to properly cook them. Like I've said before I'm still new to the Florida wildlife being from Texas I have seen

[@michaeljoyce3153]

Sorry pressed the wrong button. But I have seen quite a few bugs that i have not seen in texas. Thank you and as always I love the content you bring on the channel. Have a wonderful day

[@bobvislocky2334]

Nice review! Would you know how to tell what year a condor rifle was made. Would it be in the serial number? If so how would you read it.

[@Florida_Bullfrog]

I had to call Airforce. If you give the serial to them they can tell you.

[@CasaPescayMas]

I’ve never had that problem before

[@danielzeng2285]

Hi,do you know what’s diameter size screw diver for the grip ? Thanks

[@TheMrodla]

What FPS is the 25 cal have ??....

[@peterkelly1355]

Great review Bullfrog, I have the same gun. It would be great to see you shoot a hog or raccoon with it lol

[@TheMrodla]

What FPS does that one have

[@dalebrewer4350]

Just purchased a new 2018 condor 25 cal. and .... yep it's loud lol. Where can I purchase the Talon Tunes generation 6 shroud like yours, the actual purchasing address please and thank you

[@Florida_Bullfrog]

Only place I can tell you is the Talon Tunes website. That’s where I got mine.

[@LoneWOLF-ku7mf]

@@Florida_Bullfrog Just want to add that DonnyFL has a moderator for Texans & other air guns, For the Condor he said the Emporior is the best.

[@Dutch.1722]

Where could you recommend as good iguana hunting spots?

[@Florida_Bullfrog]

I've been told that in the Miami area people have been allowed to go around the public canals and airgun them. But I cannot confirm that.

[@Dutch.1722]

@@Florida_Bullfrog Thanks.

[@woddywoddy3402]

Do you like this Condor better than you do your 30 caliber Texan.. which should I break down and buy

[@Florida_Bullfrog]

I like my .308 Texan SS more. It is more versatile. But it also depends on whether you plan to hunt larger game or not. The .25 Condor can do everything the .30 can do on smaller animals and do it more quietly and with less air per shot. The .25 is even fine for coyote lung shots when turned up to max power and shooting hollowpoint slugs. My brother has killed several coyotes with his 2018 Condor and 60 grain slugs. Some die within 20 yards, others 100 yards on lung shots. I’ve had the same results with firearms. Coyotes are just tough. You would want the newest Condor you can get because it would have the best valving. But if you want to hunt deer, you can still hunt smaller animals with the .30 Texan shooting pellets then crank the power up for deer hunting.

[@woddywoddy3402]

I'm not worried about the noise but should I buy the carbine or the long 30 caliber Texan..

[@Florida_Bullfrog]

The long version will give you more power and a larger shot count. It will just be longer and more bulky. I can’t vouch for pellet performance in the long .308. I think the long and short versions may have different twist rates. You’d want to talk to an Airforce employee to be sure. They’ll take questions like that if someone calls them. Just don’t ask their opinions on pellet performance. They think none of the Texans shoot pellets well. They didn’t design them to be pellet shooters. I think its just good luck that the .308 (at least the SS) is a good pellet shooter. Seems like I’ve seen other reviewers get good pellet groups with the long .357 as well. Either way, defiantly get the SS or LSS versions, now that the long ones can also come with factory suppressors there isn’t a reason to buy the naked long gun. The factory suppressors have a larger volume and slide back on the shroud further than aftermarket suppressors. A LSS will be easier to handle than a naked .308 with an aftermarket shroud.

[@THEDC81025]

Best review ever lol.💪🏾

[@egasatriabirdshopjogja5406]

How pellet your test....thanks

[@HuntinwithHattaway]

I want you to kill something with it lol! That thing was driving tacks on that spinner!

[@808Cummins]

Nice honest vid! I own a texan. Not a great gun. It's a so so big bore. Airforce builds airgun for the masses with power. I want a War or better yet the new fx wildcat.

[@Florida_Bullfrog]

I definitely like the Airforce guns as hunters. I'm also glad that I've been able to experience both sides of the arguments for these guns, originally as to why they have accuracy issues, and to see that the issues can be solved.

[@fred9532]

I have an Impact and Crown also. Several others also. Just got a new condor ss, from an out of business dealer for $300. I love it so far. ordered a big valve setup and will get a TJ .257 barrel. The fancy ones are nice, but the simplicity of this is nice too.

[@cyoteone]

the Texan is more than a so so gun. If you have the right ammo in it it is very accurate and very deadly. Shoot Only Nielsen Specialty Ammo. Again, The Texan is an awesome gun. Get the right ammo.

[@ralstonraz]

Which are the slugs that you shot with?

[@Florida_Bullfrog]

Rat Sniper Slugs, Neilson Slugs, and my own cast bullets from a NOE Bob's Boattail mold.

[@lakeside477]

Good job

[@SquidAir]

They have 2 valves, one is a high flow and one is low flow

[@saviofalcao670]

Hi is marauder .25 good to take down a hog?

[@Florida_Bullfrog]

Yes, with proper shot placement to the hog’s brain within 50 yards or so.

[@saviofalcao670]

@@Florida_Bullfrog thanks

[@mrobertson188]

I have one. It loves the jsb 33.95 plets.

[@TheFatalpunx]

mrobertson188 is yours stock and what's your average ft-lb it's putting out with your pellets

[@mrobertson188]

TheFatalpunx yes its stock. It gets about 70 ft lbs.

[@trinitymaker5833]

Mine also loves the 33.94 gr JSB's. But there's a reason for that. They have a much better ballistic coefficient than the 25gr JSB's. But everything has a caveat. The heavier models tend to be more accurate, but they drop faster over distance. So you need more hold over. My gun is fully custom. Bullfrog hit the nail on the head when he described how hold sensitive the guns are. The way to overcome this is to order a 1 piece stock from Mad Dog rifle stocks. Also, make sure you have a SOLID bipod, like a Harris or Atlas. I also bought a regulator for mine that regulates air pressure between the tank and the valve assembly. This made a HUGE difference regarding accuracy as it eliminates the "bell curve" that plagues unregulated air rifles. Unfortunately if you regulate the gun, you can't shoot the cast bullets. The pre-chamber doesn't allow for enough air to be released to propel a 65gr slug down range. However, it is more than adequate to propel a .22 slug down range. And once you step into the world of slugs, you step into a new world regarding BC and long range accuracy. My biggest hurdle is finding the best FPS to shoot the gun at. There's no doubt in my mind the absolute best, most stable pellet is the 33.94gr JBS Kings. However, there's a magic FPS/FPE combo that maximizes stability and efficiency. I'm still playing with numbers looking for that number. If anyone has found it, please chime in. Currently my gun is shooting the 33.94gr JSB's at 930fps. With the gun regulated, and a larger capacity (250 BAR) carbon fiber tank from Talon Tunes, I get 31 shots before the regulator cuts out.

[@lawrencee9933]

Try the Nielsen specialty ammo is out for your rifle

[@seantyree8443]

nice shooting

[@cliffordbaldwin9157]

How much for the gun?

[@Florida_Bullfrog]

About $550 used or new with blemishes from the factory. $700 give or take if new and not on sale or with coupons.

[@matt.86]

When u gonna be doing a camping video

[@Florida_Bullfrog]

I'm thinking about doing a scouting trip very soon, just for a day on a river that's close by. I have gator hunting tags for the coming gator season so I need to start scouting and will probably camp and gator hunt. If I go scouting, I'll film it.

[@matt.86]

Can't wait love the camping vids

[@Florida_Bullfrog]

I didn't go out last weekend, but I've got some time this weekend and I think I'll do a quick trip.

[@matt.86]

Can't wait

[@Florida_Bullfrog]

Camping vid is on its way. Filmed a scouting trip this past weekend and going on an overnight gator hunt very soon.

[@rodneyheath9435]

I watch a lot of your videos and have multiple questions about the Airforce condor do you have messenger

[@rodneyheath9435]

If so if you don't mind hit me on messenger thanks

[@lukes-uf4bc]

Cant see the crohny numbers

[@tranminhtinh8110]

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[@kevinhopkins6759]

Boring - edit waiting time between shots. Good info though.