Ferguson FE35 Injection Pump Reseal Part 2 Assembly and Testing

23C FUEL INJECTION PUMP RESEAL.
This is part 2 of a two-part series on fitting a new seal kit to a 4-cylinder CAV rotary injection pump that came from a Ferguson FE35 4-cylinder diesel tractor with the Standard 23C engine.
Here is a link to a few of the parts available for this pump.
S.57135 Seal Kit www.queensland...
Q62546 New top cover
www.queensland...
Other FE35 Diesel Parts
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[@paul2466]

Your comfortable, calm repair of this pump is so impressive, if I never get my pump back together I feel I have learned so much from your videos, thank you so very much, I appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge

[@BundyBearsShed]

Glad to help

[@robertmintz63]

I made the post last night before l saw your e-mail ! Thank you very much ! Wife did the necessary things to down load & we went to bed . I have looked at the manual & the #2 pump is closest to mine ,& of course l can not tell by looking in the window of my pump , where they set those fuel quantity plates ! So the saga continues!

[@BundyBearsShed]

ok

[@charlesvanderwolf5751]

Good Job Lance. As my dad would say ,, If nobody made a mistake nothing would ever be made as nobody would be having a go. Regards Charles.

[@aeroguy86]

Charles Vanderwolf wha..

[@tonyreina4137]

Thanks for your video , very clear to understand and good close up shots. Now I can start work on my Ferguson 35 pump. Tony UK

[@BundyBearsShed]

Glad it helped

[@brettmiddleton1606]

A good informative video by someone who actually knows what they're doing. Thank you -

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thanks, Glad you liked it.

[@bobhoward3460]

Thank you, I really appreciate your advice. I will let you know if I am successful in starting the old girl!! Your videos have been an awesome support for my little project! Cheers!

[@BundyBearsShed]

You got this!

[@bobhoward3460]

@@BundyBearsShed mate she running!! You’re a champion.

[@JamesOliverHK]

Hi Lance - thank you - this video and the other CAV ones that you have prepared gave me the confidence to replace the top cover gasket and the o-rings after my injection pump started spraying out fuel. It saved me a service call and got me more comfortable with tackling other jobs on the tractor. Much appreciated!

[@BundyBearsShed]

Good to hear James, Thats why I do the videos. Very Satisfying doing it yourself.

[@ghostman50]

Nice job on making of a video easy to understand and follow by time i watched all i thoroughly understood all functions of pump and how everythi.g works together thank you and once again thank you for keeping it simple to understand...

[@BundyBearsShed]

Glad it helped

[@robertmintz63]

It would be very helpful to both Lance & us people if we could put pictures with our QUESTIONS Blow out the fuel lines . YES very good advice !

[@BundyBearsShed]

It would for sure but that is not an option I am aware of on youtube comments. unless Im missing something. The bundybearsshed@gmail is good for that though but not in the public arena.

[@robertmintz63]

Bundy Bears Shed . Ok good , I suspected that so I have sent you some pictures , with my questions

[@martinhancock5846]

I recently bought a hymer with this pump it was leaking through the throttle shaft. After watching your video I was able to change the seals. Iv owned scania Iveco and many other trucks and was always afraid of fuel pumps so sent away for repairs. Thanks I will do anything on this pump after watching the video

[@BundyBearsShed]

Glad it helped

[@awesomefacepalm]

Thanks mate In the middle of repairing my goldbelly, who had a cracked piston and leaky injection pump. I don't know if I would've been able to fix the pump if weren't for these videos

[@BundyBearsShed]

The Massey Ferguson 135 6 speed videos has a better description in videos 14 and 15 that may be of help.

[@awesomefacepalm]

@@BundyBearsShed thanks, will take at look at them too

[@kennethhaglund8193]

Many thanks for an instructive video, helps amateur me with my MF35 here in Finland aswell.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Glad to help.

[@chriswilkins2643]

These pumps on Nissan ED30 motors. I have one in a G60 Nissan ute that has been in a shed for 22 year and not started in that time.. I have spent hour trying to start it , all i get is a dribble at the end of the pipes But when Mr Bundy said that the pistons in the head may get stuck over time from sitting long term.. this is the problem i have. Cant wait for the weekend to attack it Thanks for the video. good job. You wouldn't be dead for quids

[@BundyBearsShed]

Yes it could well be the problem.

[@ryancraig-ee1gv]

Magic👍 thank you for the reply Lance, much appreciated!

[@BundyBearsShed]

Any time!

[@johnkinnane547]

G’day Lance I reckon if I watch this 10 more times I might get it, seriously a very interesting vlog regards John

[@BundyBearsShed]

Then you need a tractor

[@ryancraig-ee1gv]

Hi there Lance, I've been studying your videos to try and answer some questions to issues I have with my 58 FE-35 which would run with a tow eventually but wouldn't from the key being turned with a good battery. I fettled the air intake side of things and moved on to the fuel as the owner reckoned that it had some dirty diesel and never went the same after. I replaced all the filters and cleaned the one in the tank and the one on the injector pump and still no luck. I found the lift pump wasn't pumping correctly so replaced with a new one. I now get fuel upto the injector pump when bleeding using the lift pump however, when I turn the tractor over, there is no fuel coming out of the injector lines. I opened the top and found the stop slide was sticking but also the governor spring was incorrect. The small rivet and spring were not there and going by the second number on the serial plate, the spring was totally in the wrong place. I ordered a new kit which had these replacements in the kit. Having watched you videos, I though, yeah I can do this. First mistake was I didn't set the timing on the tractor before removing the pump and oil filler housing as one. Next I wanted to take the head off the pump to check the little rollers and pistons, which seem fine and we're moving freely but not sure if they had been stuck as I had to use a plastic hammer to get the head out. While the head was off, o also found the rivet from the governor plate down in the pump housing. So rebuilt the pump as best I can but I'm now stuck with how to set the timing with the tractor and the pump. I know there's a hole in the bellhousing that you can poke a screwdriver into to lock the engine at TDC I belive but I thought the pump needs to inject 20 or so degrees before TDC? Sorry its a long one but any help would be so gratefully received. Many thanks from Northumberland, GB.👍

[@BundyBearsShed]

Dont worry too much about the timing it is easy to sort out and hard to get wrong. The pump has a master spline and if you bolt it up and line up the little mark on the bolt on flange it should be ok. Have a read through the bulletins on here as well. bundybearsshed.com.au/technical-library/

[@lloydjohnston5382]

Excellent workmanship , great video, thanks for sharing , keep up the great videos ,good day mate.....

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thanks Lloyd.

[@russellbeck7596]

Great watching these videos, thankyou. Clear and informative description without pointless background music or larking about. I've got one of these to do on my 2286 landrover. I've also got a later version to do, the one with the electronic stop solenoid. Visually very similar apart from the control levers and solenoid. Never been able to find a video for that one, are they basically the same inside?

[@BundyBearsShed]

Yes I believe they are.

[@jamesgraves1460]

Thank you! Before this video, I would have been too afraid to touch one. Now I feel confident! (kept watching and wondering when you were going to put the vanes in... had to fast-forward it, to see if i had missed that part somehow)

[@BundyBearsShed]

Check the MF135 6 speed videos 14 and 15 they go into it far more.

[@jamesgraves1460]

@@BundyBearsShed Just watched 14 and 15. Extremely informative. Saw exactly how the parts went into the end cap, and their correct order. Need the new end cap with the steel insert! Thank you so much for taking your time showing us exactly how to rebuild the pump, plus all the other excellent videos you have made. Have watched quite a few, and many more I need to watch!

[@mrmajzoo]

Hello! Great video! :-) I forgot to mark the circlip position when i dismantled the pump! Is there any way to position the clip anyway? Best regards!

[@BundyBearsShed]

Look at the MF65 playlist and I think I show blowing air up the no1 fitting to lock the cam up and you can set the circlip from there.

[@robertmintz63]

Again l love your choice of music ! Thanks, also you might be interested in the same vid , & the TOOLS especially the long surgical tweezers Poul Gammelguaard Massey Ferguson 35 (MF35) tractor Cav injection pump renovation.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Ok thanks.

[@djavanferreiradeandrade5627]

Very good... I'm learning so much with your Chanel . thanks... From Brazil.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Happy to hear that!

[@mickeymcmillian9885]

so I got the pump all put together and was so proud how ever the bench test didn't work out . the fuel pumps in great and the bleeder spurts out nicely but the fuel wont pump past the metering valve . even though the valve is wide open and the stop is off. it just dribbles out the delivery valves . like theres no presure.....even though the pistons in the head are nice and free any ideals ??? mick

[@BundyBearsShed]

Make sure there is no trapped air still or and the fuel inlet is full. See if the dribbles stop with the stopper pulled, if it does when cranking at engine speed it should come good.

[@mickeymcmillian9885]

thanks lance so the dribbles do stop with the stopper pulled so I think it is a bleed problem so I'm gonna install it and bleed it good and see what happens..i'll let you know what happens.. I really enjoy your vids...i.m a super fan of yours.. thanks mickey in Tulsa Oklahoma

[@hightower320]

Hey mickey, did mounting to the tractor and bleeding the pump work? I'm having the same issue with bench bleeding as you.

[@bobhoward3460]

Gday mate, Appreciate your video's. I have just resealed my CAV pump on FE35, Unfortunately i did not take note of the positioning of the Circlip. is there a means of putting it back in and positioning the ends to the housing, & how does it effect the timing??

[@BundyBearsShed]

It is hard to get the timing wrong, but to check the position you can blow air up no 1 outlet and turn the pump until it locks up. I think I show that on my MF65 videos.

[@iainmel1]

was a car mechanic back in the eighties, before life went in another direction. ow Ihave a fe35 with the 23c engine.... diesel scares me a bit, but this demystifies it a fair bit. But do you know of any videos about getting this pump fitted back onto the engine and getting it going again? I really enjoy tje relaxed pace of your videos, tools crashing to the floor as you say at least once in every video... Keep up the good work, Lance, greetings from a cold winter in Sweden!

[@BundyBearsShed]

G Day Iain, The pump can really only go back in one position as there is a dowell or a master spline depending on what machine the pump is on.

[@jodydean26]

I have a 1986 jcb 1400b and when I took the top plate off the fuel pump the spring came off the throttle shaft with the three holes in it now I don't know where it goes ,no where I could look up the info on it .

[@BundyBearsShed]

Look for a shiny mark in the holes, that usually gives the game away.

[@dinosimonelli2577]

Good job Lance

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thanks Dino.

[@johnhakesley5730]

I have a DPA ex Fiat 566 DT with advance control post screwed into the ring, I am finding it quite tight, is there a procedure for the posts removal, I am thinking that I should of attempted to remove it before removing the main injection cartridge. Please advise. Thanks, John.

[@BundyBearsShed]

There is a special spanner fot that but I have never owned one. I jusy use a 18" shifting spanner that is in very good order without any slop in the jaws.

[@bobhoward3460]

Gday, I am somewhat confused, re timing of the pump. I have rechecked everything with the circlip and everything is back in original positioning. However, I have wound the flywheel around so the 1/4 “ drill bit is in location. This is 10-16Deg btdc I believe! The no#1 injector outlet on the pump outlet is clearly marked with U, but there in no U on the timing marks for adjacent the circlip. When I align the master spline for the pump the timing mark inside aligns shows a G??? Am I doing this right? I have tried the compressed air trick with No#1 outlet on pump but unable to accurately feel the lock up. I don’t have hydraulic tester. I hope you can help?? Regards Bob. 1964 MF35 23 c Perkins CAV DPA 32400M? SN R276FX

[@BundyBearsShed]

G is the correct mark for a 23c engine. You cant really go wrong if you line up the letter G and the scribe mark on the flange.

[@robertglover1271]

Is there a easier way to check the alignement of the shut off lever into the slide spot

[@BundyBearsShed]

Not really, check my Massey Ferguson 135 6 speed videos 14 and 15 and see if that helps.

[@robertglover1271]

@@BundyBearsShed hi thanks for your quick response hope I don’t loose our contact ? What trouble I have I think my kil lever could be popping out of the slide spot and sometimes moving kill knob in and out it comes back into play and trying to line it up whilst on vehicle is a prob just did a steering box repair and not having luck with bleeding assume slide could be out of connection with kill arm end?

[@bosdad7]

I have watched several of your video's. I have a cav pump that the pistons are sticky. I have cleaned then and the bore hole several times. I have even taken diesel soaked 600 grit sand paper across them. but they still feel sticky to me. the pistons do not seem to drop in or our without a little push. do you have any recommendations on how to fix the fitment problem ?

[@BundyBearsShed]

Diesel will leave a lacquer at times just try and polish it all away as the pistons would have been free in the bore originally.

[@user-wo7rz3yn4o]

I've done almost everything wrong I could have on my rebuild. I did not tighten the 5/16 hex head screw on the drive spline and things came loose and diesel filled my crankcase. Even though the lipped seal still appears fine I'm going to replace it however PLEASE tell me the o-ring on the shaft itself should still be okay. I never did have the governor assembly out.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Yes it should be fine, I did that once myself.

[@user-wo7rz3yn4o]

@@BundyBearsShed that is VERY good new for me right now.Thank you. I should make a video on how NOT to reassemble a CAV pump....all you need is a failing memory, no experience and no other options for repair!

[@Charly-ul4ol]

Hallo Bundy, sie sind meine letzte Hoffnung. Ich habe mir letztes Jahr einen Ford 2000 DEXTA Traktor zugelegt. Der war 5 Jahre im Freien gestanden. Daraufhin habe ich den Tank und die Filter(erneuert) und die Einspritzpumpe gereinigt, anschließend entlüftet und die ersten Startversuche durchgeführt. Leider kommt an den Einspritzdüsen kein/wenig Druck bzw. Diesel an. Er hat eine CAV DPA 323 Einspritzpumpe für seine 3 Zylinder (siehe auch Bilder). Zwischenzeitlich habe ich mich im Netz über die Funktionsweise und Neuab- dichtung informiert. Am hilfreichsten waren ihre Videos dabei. Ihr professionelles Wissen hier, würde ich gerne „anzapfen“. Bisher habe ich folgende Teile ausgetauscht bzw. zerlegt (siehe Bilder anbei): - Die beiden Flügel in der Einspritzpumpe erneuert - Die Abschlussplatte an der HD-Pumpe erneuert - Den Exzenterring um die Flügelpumpe erneuert - Alle Dichtungen erneuert - Pumpe zerlegt und mit Diese und Druckluft gereinigt - eine zusätzliche elektrische Förderpumpe zwischen Filter und E-Pumpe eingebaut Bisher noch nicht zerlegt habe ich den Verteilerkörper incl. der Fliehkraftgewichte. All diese Maßnahmen bringen jedoch keine Erfolg. Es kommt weiterhin nur wenig Diesel ohne Druck an den Einspritzleitungen zu der E-Düsen oben an. Der Diesel wird offensichtlich nur über die Rücklaufleitung zurückgepumpt. Es baut sich kein Hochdruck an den Einspritzleitungen auf. Es sieht so aus, als würde in der Pumpe irgendwo ein Ventil nicht schließen. Als wäre der Absteller gezogen. Dies ist jedoch nicht der Fall. Haben sie hier noch ein Idee, wo in der Pumpe der Aufbau des Hochdrucks gesteuert bzw. beeinflusst wird? So wie ich die Funktion der Pumpe verstelle, wird der Druck über die Achse im Verteilerkörper zwangsgesteuert bzw. verteilt. Gibt es hier ein Ventil, dass den Rückfluss verhindern sollte? Ich bin am Ende meiner Weisheit  Sehe sie noch eine Möglichkeit, warum hier der Diesel aus der Flügelpumpe nicht an die HD-Leitungen weitergeleite wird? Könnt hier tatsächlich noch ein Fehler im Verteilerkörper vorliegen? Über einen Rat wie ich das Thema noch eingrenzen bzw. lösen kann würde ich mich sehr freuen. Beste Grüße aus Bayern-Germany und einen schönen Abend noch vom Karl

[@BundyBearsShed]

Go to the Massey Ferguson 135 6 speed playlist videos 114 and 15. I think the pistons may be gummed up or the metering valve is sticking but you may have to go deeper into the pump.

[@Charly-ul4ol]

@@BundyBearsShed Hello Bundy You were right, it was the pistons in the distributor body. Thank you very much for your help. If you're ever in Germany, you're welcome to come over. I would be happy to get to know you. Greetings Charly

[@mattg7151]

G'day Lance, I've put our pump back together but engine reves without any throttle, can only regulate the reves with the stopper, what do you reckon I've got wrong? Thanks Mate

[@BundyBearsShed]

I think the governor spring is in the wrong holes.

[@mattg7151]

The rivet and spring was in the lower hole, i put it back there, have backed off the idle srew but it respond to throttle untidily, sometimes idles at 1000 revs the 1200 ect, it's on a JD2120

[@mutantgenepool]

The silver stuff is graphene that is used as a lubricant. The same stuff is used in Packing for steam valves. Correction Edit. Graphite.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Good, Thanks.

[@p.jdonnellan9908]

Hi Bundy super video, on my eingin that being left up for a while I can't get fuel to work through the pump when I open the bottom bleeding screw fuel comes out no problem but it just won't come out up the top any idea what might be wrong

[@BundyBearsShed]

Possibly a stuck metering valve or the main plungers stuck.

[@jimgurley]

I've used your video to deal with my MF275 CAV injector. It had sat for nearly 10 years, and it looks like it had a lot of water in it. The inlet filter, springs. and little check valve were cruddy, the metering valve was seized, and the pistons in main pump were frozen solid, and there was a film of crud on everything. Got it cleaned up and back together, and bench testing, three of the four outputs spit slightly (nowhere near as vigorously as yours). I took it apart again, looking for a problem on one output, blew out all the passages, and reassembled. Now it doesn't even spit. Repeated, and still won't spit, but it seems like it's trying. Is there any chance that higher rpm might wake the thing up? Wish I could get it to spit like yours did.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Have a good look at the plungers under the rollers but often a better supply will get them better as well.

[@robertmintz63]

Might try to turn it with an electric drill

[@benpuckett7022]

REF this video at 24:46 Found this video after watching similar one from 2015. I have a Lucas CVA (for 3 cylinder) on a Ford 3910 (~1987-88). The data plate on the pump has been painted over and can't see the model # and other info I have only one very small seep/leak that collects and drips (1 drop/minute) from "Head Locating Bolt" (index #118) installed on the "Automatic Advance Device Housing and Piston" (index #106). This bolt appears to be a built-up assembly (when installed and viewed from the bottom, it has a slotted head within the diameter of the bolt head). The leak appears to seep/accumulate at the interface of the O.D. of the slotted screw and the I.D. of the bolt head. Question: Can I remove this bolt (index 118) and only replace any internal seals without removing the pump? Thanks for your help.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Yes no problem doing that

[@travisroberts4623]

Hello Mr lance. I’m am trying to find out what the plate on the side is called. It’s also is where the fuel line come into the side of the pump from the filters. If you could help me i would be really thankful. I can send a photo of need be. It’s just a square ish plate on the side with 2 screws holding it on and the fuel line from the filter runs into it. Your calling it a timing plate cover.

[@BundyBearsShed]

We call it the inspection cover to inspect the timing.

[@dustinkeith7641]

@@BundyBearsShed what is the purpose of the line coming out there and going back to the filters? Mine has the line. It also has another coming out closer to the gear end going up to the air intake for cold starting i guess. My pump is on a Ford 3 cylinder in a New Holland L783 Skid Steer. I have fuel to the bleed port but nothing coming out of the cylinder line.

[@snowplowservicesnoltemeyer962]

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[@travismayberry2147]

Need advise. I have a Massey Ferguson 275 that is running out of diesel and will only start with starter fluid. New lift pump was applied and fuel system was bled. Please help.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Clean the tap filter, change the fuel filters and check the gauze on the injection pump inlet but it may just be low on compression but do the cheap stuff first.

[@travismayberry2147]

Bundy Bears Shed can you explain to me the gauze on the injection pump? Tractor has a new fuel filters and a new fuel tank. And the clear fuel bowl at bottom of filter never runs out of diesel.

[@travismayberry2147]

Should my next step be to rebuild injection pump?

[@robertmintz63]

Travis Mayberry . As Lance said there is a fine screen in the top of the pump , where the fuel goes in ! Disconnect the fuel line out of the Black nut , remove the nut , then the filter

[@robertmintz63]

Do you have an inline fuel filter someplace

[@wtkthis1b209]

Excellent. Do you know why my engine produces a lot of smoke? it has been rebuilt, has new injectors. I think the problem is in CAV injector pump. Do you know what could be wrong with it?

[@BundyBearsShed]

I would suggest the timing is not correct, that will do it at times.

[@robertmintz63]

wtkthis1 B . I hope that by now you have your smoke problem , fixed, black smoke means un-burned fuel . You said new injectors, (question ) are they exactly the same as the old ones , same size holes , number, angle ! Was the pump rebuilt if so the plate Lance shows at 15min might be turned

[@robertmintz63]

It is also possible that the oil wiper rings #(3) are collapsed & stuck with carbon

[@davidsample9130]

Would ever consider a video on hot rodding one of those pumps?

[@BundyBearsShed]

G Day David, Not much in there to do except adjust the rollers for more travell and open the revs up a bit.

[@nevilleseetal8179]

Can some one tell me how much h I can get the price for all the tools to do this work I love this work I do this for a living I live in Guyana 🇬🇾

[@BundyBearsShed]

No idea really they are not available here.

[@Jamo2404]

Hey Bundy....I'm working on a FE35 pump at the moment on an engine that won't start (pump is primed but won't inject), so I'm investigating. I took the rear cover off and it is evident that the transfer pump ring internal surface is not round, as the carbon vanes have clearance in the vertical alignment, but a zero fit in the horizontal plane. Is this normal? Is the internal shape of the ring round or eliptical/oval? I am trying to get to the bottom of what is serviceable vs what is not before I take it to the pump shop for new parts! Any help much appreciated....

[@BundyBearsShed]

Not round as the vanes need to follow the contour.

[@robertmintz63]

Hello again , Lance ,watching your vid , again ,. Subject , getting the new seal installed to the proper depth . I have made several installation tools for such jobs , of aluminum &/ or hard plastic , with the final seating shoulder @ a diff depth than the seal pushing part . Also for bearing install’s Are those bolts @ 14.30-15.30, actually 12 point or torques ? IS There any # relationship between measurement to moving the plate at 15min & % amount of fuel delivered for more HP I hate cork because it crushes so easy & usually squeezes out & leaves a leak ! WHY is it that as you rotate the pump fuel squirts back up ? Is it just because of air bubbling up , seams to be pumping in & out

[@BundyBearsShed]

12 point for sure and not torques. There is a relationship directly as it affects the pump plunger stroke.

[@robertmintz63]

Bundy Bears Shed . Thanks Lance . Since my pump was worked on by 2 old guys 4yrs ago & we had to turn the pump (almost full advance)& to get the power back, &(even at that seemed to be lacking) -(possibly that plate is set wrong) & then 3yrs ago also worked on my injectors, broke 1 then installed the wrong tip (that I had to pay for , and set the trip pressure wrong) & they would not make things right ! I had to take my injectors to USA to get them done correctly. Therefore l have no confidence in their work ! Hence my questions ! Don’t quite know what to do here??

[@robertmintz63]

Bundy Bears Shed . Couldn’t see good enough to distinguish for sure

[@luisfernandodamatta4463]

Hi There, thank you for the video, please tell me how do you calibrate slow, idle and full load rotation?

[@BundyBearsShed]

Slow idle and high idle is with a screw at each end of the travel of the throttle lever. Low is around 750rpm and max at around 2250 rpm.

[@Tf9500]

Another good video I think you could put a pump together in the dark 👍

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thanks, Then I would miss something for sure, i miss stuff with the lights on, lol.

[@adamchwast6778]

good video you teacher, thanks bay bay -adam

[@BundyBearsShed]

Thanks Adam,

[@Failedmusician]

What are you attaching to the pump at 27:51 mark? My pump only has two simple bolts that bolt into the pump at the same location and I don’t have the black piece that you attached. I am just trying to stop it from leaking without taking it off from the backhoe. I really appreciate these long videos. They are so helpful to novice mechanics like myself.

[@BundyBearsShed]

That is the hydraulic advance mechanism, they dont all have it.

[@mortenrytman2703]

Dear Lance. I really apprechiate your videos, me and my boys are doing our best to do what you do. I have just resealed a CAV from my mf35 3 cyl. But I have a problem with the main axle seal. When tightening the Allen screw in the end of the axle it locks the axle and it can no longer spin. Seal is all the way in in fact I pounded it so much I need a new seal now. Have you had problems like this before? I used the Sparex kit

[@BundyBearsShed]

Not a normal problem, I think my best advice would be to go to my Massey Ferguson 135 6 speed play list and look at videos 14 and 15. I feel I explain things way better there than in this first video. You need probably 1 to 2l/min flow from the fuel system into the pump for it to work correctly but stripping and polishing does wonders at times. Im thinking you have something in back to front but Im not sure what.

[@kennethastewartjr9087]

I would like to know how much pressure comes out of the injector pump before it gets to the injectors

[@BundyBearsShed]

Around 2600 psi

[@theanodiser]

another great video Lance cheers...sent you an email with this question but I will try my luck here as well. I put a seal kit through a cav dpa pump off a 2 cylinder marine diesel. got a similar amount of fuel sqiurt from the outlets as in your vid. but I dont get anything when I put the outlet nozzles(valved) on the pump. not sure if this is right??

[@BundyBearsShed]

I sent you an Email

[@theanodiser]

@@BundyBearsShed yep...cheers Lance

[@jjt1093]

OK good news for me found the plunger was stuck inside So I guess there has been water any recomendations for cleaning it So as the plunger can move freely ? also I am definately missng the washer between the spring and the threard screw, Can I use any washer or is it rubber

[@BundyBearsShed]

Just polish everything with 1200 paper

[@jjt1093]

Thanks will do

[@jjt1093]

@@BundyBearsShed Bloody hell :) still wont run, barely to none diesel at injectors, so Is it possible on the back plate there is supposed to be 2 springs for the valve ? on either end

[@jjt1093]

@@BundyBearsShed Update, the pump is again apart and being cleaned again, the Quill shaft has broken and I suspect that it has been a problem for a while was very loose in the housing and , not much info on massey groups about this but Land Rover and boating side there was so now just trying to find a replacement Quill shaft.

[@davidrickard9686]

Hi I took the CAV pump of my David brown tractor and the shaft or nothing wont come out is it stuck. I see on your one you don’t have a tap at the bottom is this my problem Thanks in advance

[@BundyBearsShed]

G day David, Check that the advance ball is not in the cam ring still.

[@davidrickard9686]

Bundy Bears Shed thanks will do👍

[@jjt1093]

Hey Bundy Bear, so at 56:25 I only have a large flat srew bolt on the pump end and spring inside nothing else, any idea's what I am missing

[@BundyBearsShed]

I think the plunger etc, there were a few different set ups in the end housing but the spring will be working on to something like a small plunger.

[@jjt1093]

Ok mine end plate is flat round compared to what you have there is a small Bearing ball in the repair kit for some reason hope that isn't supposed to where the spring is, the pump gets good pressure but still won't go to the injectors I have installed new blades and new stopper and the propper stopper lever now

[@peterwalker7869]

Lance 2 things ya might wanna know. First that pump is not gunna work because you forgot to install the veins in the lift pump before installing the end cap.....yeah I spotted your deliberate mistake. I know ya just trying to get the comments up hahahah. Second thing is you need to try using manwell focus on your camera, especially on the close up shots. When you are installing the top cover the camera spent 1/2 it's time focused on the John Deere sticker on your tool cabinet. Then occasionally it would actually focus on the pump and I could actually read all the dirty finger prints on it.

[@peterwalker7869]

And just after I commented and went back to the video, you must have seen my comment and fixed the mistake.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Yeah it would not have worked without them, lol.

[@rodneyblake9093]

Great job Bundy confused with bleed screw on back ov pump

[@stefanoancona7642]

STRANO CI SONO SOLCOMMENTIOIN INGLESE

[@robertmintz63]

Rodney Blake . Yes that is a strange one ! I wonder is there also a bleed screw on the front side? If not l think l would be switching them around .

[@toheebkunle9440]

Can I adjust the rotor head my engine symptoms is hard starting when I prime it with petrol it start immediately sir

[@BundyBearsShed]

You probably just have a worn pump head. Not much apart from a new head will fix that one.

[@robertmintz63]

The dilemma saga ! Why would my tractor tend to over heat, when set at the original timing advance mark (on the gear cover) when all l have done is a 100% engine rebuild ? Should l advance it to where it had to be set (for power) after the inj pump was rebuilt 5yrs ago ? Before they built the pump l would have black smoke occasionally , but not after , even with the advance, unless l really bogged it out at about 1800-2000 rpm ! & with it set at full advance it is really noisy! & yet not hard to start ! Would it not be better to adjust the amount of fuel delivery on the inside of the pump ? Question is how much ? Is it strictly an experimental exercise ? I will send some pics buy E MAIL ! THANKS

[@BundyBearsShed]

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[@carlcarlson180]

I have a Ford 446A , if I don’t start it for 3 or 4 days it won’t start unless I use starting fluid. I have bleed it well. Runs good after it starts. Any idea’s? Thanks

[@BundyBearsShed]

It has to be air getting in somewhere, there will be a reason for loosing prime.

[@taylormaahs9495]

this might have been answered already but how do you know if the injector pump is bad?

[@BundyBearsShed]

Hard to start especially when hot.

[@robertelmes2970]

Rebuilt MF 50D injection pump starts great will not run?

[@BundyBearsShed]

Check the spring position or fuel supply.

[@brianwatts9947]

G'day. I have just found your videos and find them excellent. I only have one problem, mine is a 3Cylinder Lucas off a Ford 4100 tractor. Sadly, I did not mark the circlip (as shown about 8 minutes), before taking it out and my outlet is on the other side to that one you are working on. (It has no markings on it and is the same shape back or front.) Is it correct that the circlip opening goes toward that outlet, ie, on mine it will be the opposite to yours with the circlip opening toward that outlet. Is that correct. Thanks in advance.

[@BundyBearsShed]

Look in the MF65 series I just did a video on how to check where the circlip should be by air testing.

[@brianwatts9947]

@@BundyBearsShed Thanks very much.

[@patrickmoore8428]

How do I find the spring positions from the code on the plate.

[@BundyBearsShed]

download the CAV manual from my web site here: queenslandtractorspares.com.au/technical/

[@patrickmoore8428]

@@BundyBearsShed thanks very much.

[@jjt1093]

I''m missing the spring washer, was never in there it seems, now I have taken the pump apart and noticed it, I should be searching for that part or ?

[@BundyBearsShed]

I don't think I would worry, just Loctite the screw in just in case.

[@smalanning9693]

Thanks from Sweden for a great and helpful video, save me the half monthly salary! Whats the fluid your put in the pump to test it?

[@BundyBearsShed]

Just wd40 or CRC 5.56

[@smalanning9693]

@@BundyBearsShed thanks again!!

[@jakemorris9427]

When I put my top cover back on my throttle is stuck in wide open is there something I’m doing wrong?

[@BundyBearsShed]

Spring in the wrong place.

[@jakemorris9427]

@@BundyBearsShed the spring attaches to lever in the last hole and then the second hole on the throttle plate exactly how I took it off. I’m not sure what happened

[@gilleshalbourg5787]

Bonjour j'ai besoin d'aide SVP j'ai un David Brown 990 et ma pompe a injection est bouché ou a de l'air depuis que j'ai changer les filtres il demarre plus il y a pas de carburant qui sort des injecteurs merci d'avance de m'expliquer comment faire ou faut il demonter la pompe bien a vous Gilles

[@BundyBearsShed]

Go to the MF135 6 speed play list and it shows the 3 cylinder pump, yours is almost the same.

[@gijsn435]

The spring assembly is that the same for all FE 35 tractors??

[@BundyBearsShed]

Yes I would think so.

[@robertmintz63]

I will be the first to admit that l am a novice hear , but l worked for Toyota assembly plant for 20yrs , (line maintenance)we were told not to use WD40 on rubber things , because it deteriorates rubber , we used silicone, or O ring lube . Would be better here to use diesel fuel ! Or oil .

[@BundyBearsShed]

The orings here are good for diesel and I have never had a worry with the WD40, I would think they might be viton with the newer fuels.

[@robertmintz63]

I forgot a key word here- because it (in time) deteriorates the rubber

[@kayabeonline3012]

Sir how much would that pump cost. I got a massey tractor with that kind of pump. Just want to how much will that pump gonna cost me..

[@BundyBearsShed]

Depends but probably $1000- $1200

[@jjt1093]

Hey bundy I need help t get the pump back on the engine, Any tips for remounting it ?

[@BundyBearsShed]

No you cant really go wrong with the 3 bolts and the dowel.

[@robertmintz63]

, JJ T . I don’t know your configuration , but on mine is a shaft with a woodruff key (half moon) goes through the back of the gear cover into the pump drive gear , (no getting it wrong) then a lock washer+ nut (DO NOT DROP) , l use a poll magnet with the washer & nut slid on ,stick it through the hole against the end of the shaft , slide on the washer start the nut , remove poll mag , torque 22mm(7/8) nut to-50/60 ftlbs, do not over torque, you can split the gear

[@cannonfarrm]

Ho do you clean the pumps after disassembly?

[@BundyBearsShed]

I bead blast with glass beads and just wash in the parts washer or at times use the ultrasonic cleaner.

[@JACKATTACKED]

Socket spanner Hardware Indescript Tooling law states that: If it's not meant to fall, it shall. In addition to disappearing into the eather and reappearing, most probably after being replaced. Shit for short. 😂

[@BundyBearsShed]

Yep I try and drop something every video to keep the theme running, lol.

[@JACKATTACKED]

Just confirming gravity still works Lance 😂

[@hooter7003]

Where is that bloody 10mm socket 😂😂👍😎🇦🇺

[@nevilleseetal8179]

There r some special tools to strip that pump

[@BundyBearsShed]

Check my Massey Ferguson 135 6 speed playlist videos 14 and 15.

[@wtkthis1b209]

Bundy Bears Shed, do you flash the pump with diesel or some other fluid? Thank you

[@BundyBearsShed]

I just use WD40 or similar but when on the tractor i bleed it as per usual

[@lloydjohnston5382]

I saw that you missed putting in ..

[@BundyBearsShed]

Yes when videoing I need to cut and retake sections so it doesnt always line up as a smooth story. They are there though and the tractor is running.

[@kimidevil]

Everything is wonderful, but these dirty fingers ... there are no gloves?

[@BundyBearsShed]

No I have no feel with gloves I find.

[@kimidevil]

@@BundyBearsShed Do not mind me. I have been watching the lesson twice. I'm taking you a hat!

[@kathyparker7140]

Thanks very much information and very informative. Save me 750.00

[@BundyBearsShed]

Glad to help

[@fghjkuirp56]

вроде пожилой должен с душой а по нему не видно тяп ляп🤨🤨

[@BundyBearsShed]

Something is lost in the translation here Im sorry.

[@fghjkuirp56]

не спец ключейн ни приспособы ни момент затяжки ничего у него нет как он ремонт делает и кто к нему топливо привозят на ремонт я не повезу и другим не посоветую🥵🤥

[@BundyBearsShed]

Something is lost in the translation here Im sorry.

[@lloydjohnston5382]

the vanes

[@BundyBearsShed]

yes

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[@BundyBearsShed]

thankyou.