4 Things: Update on Woman dealing w/ an Affair Baby, Wife doesn't help w her Husband's Kids, & more

[@ebonynicole81]

It's funny how the "systems" says older women have no value. However, when you need an older woman to take care of your responsibilities, older women become valuable.

[@MayDay-yn3bw]

This!

[@unicorn73212]

Yeah they do this to older women they tell us to go back to him and just settle to keep the peace after they basically betrayed us and called us old at 39 they will manipulate you with threats and there physical strength but they need to be careful there I've been in several fights with both men and women and never got a black eye and I'm not that large either I'm kind of skinny you think I'd be easy to beat up but I'm not once I'm done that's it I'm done I refuse to try to fix someone that can't be helped.

[@Kontroversial84]

💯

[@marys2406]

This.

[@FireSilver25]

EXACTLY

[@videofan1010]

Ladies - don't forgive cheaters...

[@ashassassin]

Especially if they conceived a child with ap.

[@Lysistrata2025]

This!

[@truthhurts...6574]

Especially if a baby is involved from outside

[@dezinechic]

right sure been keeping up with his heart health instead of chasing young women. let his mama and dada take care of him AND his son.

[@AutumnAprodithe]

They would never forgive you.

[@turquoise_sky]

If your husband identifies more with the attacker than then attacked, time to RUN to divorce court.

[@TititoDeBologay]

Women defends herself from S.A. Them : You're overreacting. Women freezes when assaulted. Them : why didn't you defend yourself. It's tiresome.

[@Jamnj1]

UGH!

[@bottomofastairwell]

it really is. the way there's literally no winning, nothing is ever enough. ugh

[@RowenaSnow-px3jg]

The point is to keep women always on the defensive and always in the wrong. They are the ones who are wrong.

[@mwademinor]

child-free women should avoid men with children.

[@bottomofastairwell]

yep. that's how i live. child free means CHILD FREE. not my own kids, and not yours either. NO KIDS, i don't give a damn where they came from. I ain't dealing with them

[@lavonnewr]

Parents raising a predator

[@attitudeproblem6462]

He’s probably been doing shyt like this since a young child and he’s always been sheltered from consequence of being inappropriate. He tried it w/ a grown Woman and found out. Then his raggedy parents want to tell her how _She’s_ wrong?!? I would’ve went off like that dude in that one video and slapped them and everything _else_ in that water park.

[@Cynophileandavianenthusiast]

No one wants to talk about predator boys. I've got stories.

[@amberinthemist7912]

​@@Cynophileandavianenthusiastme too

[@kylaarmstrong-benjamin8066]

I literally heard "boys will be boys" from a mom after her teenage son untied my little sister's top at the community pool!!! My sister was 14, she turned around slapped him instantly!!

[@cocoace7587]

​@@Cynophileandavianenthusiast Send them into BnB , if you don't have a channel. We need to warn young girls . ❤👍

[@studiosandi]

The husband in the pool incident really let his daughter down, not just his wife.

[@katherines144]

Only people he cares about are other men and boys. Sad 😢

[@ruthmchuwen]

Men on average do not protect the girls and women in their families. Most women are experiencing DV, SA and worse, because they care more about what other men think. Eye service smh 🤦🏿‍♀️

[@c.g.bspendersashtray3037]

He let humankind down. 😂😂

[@attitudeproblem6462]

The way everyone else is like “Not I!” but are still trying to shame/guilt/coerce this Woman into raising her husband’s affair baby!😒😒😒🙅🏾‍♀️👎🏾

[@ShaSha2484]

RIGHT why does the responsibilities fall on her. He broke their vows. The side chicks family needs to step up! Not the wife.

[@beeha8133]

Right but I don’t understand women who stay but don’t want the responsibility of the child their husband had. It’s sucks but why stay if you aren’t gonna deal with all that comes with staying? That’s the part that confuses me.

[@ShaSha2484]

@@beeha8133 Exactly that part! Gabrielle Union or Lala Anthony before they finally split or divorced.

[@winterinbloom]

​@@beeha8133 Probably because there is no reason for the affair baby to become the responsibility of the woman cheated on. The loser husband can always make other arrangements that don't involve her.

[@beeha8133]

@@winterinbloom I’m sure she’s divorcing him now but that’s only after she was left to care for the child by herself. Did she really think that she wouldn’t have to do anything yet stay with that man? And live in the same house where the child would frequent? How was that gonna work? No it’s not her responsibility which I have stated but why stay? I don’t get it

[@MyWorld-xw6ic]

He put himself in an early grave. That heart attack prolly came from the affair baby, abandonment and subsequent raising the child.

[@decoraqueena6413]

I heard a statistic that backs this. Cheaters are more likely to get heart attacks from all the guilt they bear.

[@dezinechic]

right sure been keeping up with his heart health instead of chasing young women. let his mama and dada take care of him AND his son.

[@Amia1013]

“Husband thinks I am overreacting,” to a teen taking your wife’s CLOTHES off in public? I would have had to hold my man back from “overreacting” that teen into a new dimension. Talk about marrying your opp.

[@kylaarmstrong-benjamin8066]

In front of other people and their own DAUGHTER!!!! at least set the example for her!!! That's assault!! What The Entire F**k? He's a trash husband and father!!!

[@jdeux3677]

Because he himself would or have done it

[@uwilberforce4628]

​@@jdeux3677exactly

[@seabreeze4559]

The teen was cucking him too.

[@AndyyWithAY]

Update- he dead 💀💀💀 OP's kids need to FAFO. They are too entitled

[@pierceblazer]

I read "he dead" in Kennie J.D.'s voice. 😭 Yes, them kids got to go too.

[@cocoace7587]

Right , I had to immediately say a sorry prayer , for the smile 😃 reflex .

[@dezinechic]

this comment!

[@dezinechic]

@@pierceblazer that first sentence got me too!

[@AndyyWithAY]

@@pierceblazer I have watched her a few times. That may be where I got that from

[@stephaniejane6168]

Re 3rd story: yes we should raise our daughters to not accept being touched without consent, but more importantly we need to teach BOYS that this behaviour is unacceptable. The boy’s parents are responsible for this situation and then made it worse by not holding him accountable.

[@madalice5134]

Yup, the "boys will be boys" mentality raises boys to be predators and abusers.

[@May-nt3ow]

I agree

[@endTHEhegemony_Today]

Thanks, I TOTALLY agree 🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤 We can build the framework for the great and benevolent society, you and ALL of the women in this conversation are BRILLLIANT and it makes me want to see the norm shift. 🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤 I champion Us We can DO it!! 🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤 Much Love!!

[@bottomofastairwell]

granted i'm not a man, but still. my mom had a very strict, hands to yourself "if it's not yours, don't fuck with it rule" had i done some shit like that as a teen, she would've just laughed at me getting slapped and said "welp, that's what you get. love it, hate it, there it is the way you made it" (one of her favorite phrases). why aren't young boys being taught the same kind of thing? i'm so over this "boys will be boys" shit

[@seabreeze4559]

@@bottomofastairwell if he's old enough to SA, he's old enough to do time for it

[@toecutterjones]

I worry for every drunk girl that passes out near that teen in the future, definitely has those vibes.

[@AeriaGl0ris]

Another Brock Turner in the making.

[@silververnallbells191]

I don't worry for girls who choose to get black out drunk or high. They're truly dumb & delusional if they think "it won't happen to me". I cheer for smart girls who make smart decisions knowing "if I get THAT drunk it is likely someone WILL take advantage of me, bcuz that sort of thing happens all the time. I'm not an exception.. I'm female, too". It's past time for women & girls to stop thinking they're the exception & to make the smart decision.

[@nicolewood7957]

“These men have too much energy becuz they’re not raising their kids” 👀👀 sounds about right!

[@jacqueline7938]

So the grand parents don't want to raise their own grandchild but expect a mature woman who was the victim of infidelity to do so 🙃 not to mention her own grown children are out of pocket. Why don't they adopt their half sibling 😒

[@dfya3294]

Shows you that the AP whole family is trifling af smh

[@dezinechic]

that last sentence! right sure been keeping up with his heart health instead of chasing young women. let his mama and dada take care of him AND his son.

[@luthorforpresident9353]

She stayed with him, so she didn't mind the infidelity. The problem is he made a baby and is actually raising it, except he can't cuz he's sick. Grandparents aren't obligated 2 raise grandkids. The only ppl who should be obligated are parents. She can and should divorce the father because he cheated. The child is irrelevant.

[@babyjells]

@@luthorforpresident9353she didn’t stay with him because she didn’t mind the affair. Watch the whole video. She was in the midst of filing for divorce when the husband DIED from complications of his heart attack.

[@jayogee913]

Only way I would agree to raise the affair baby is if the grandparents gifted me a HOUSE, a CAR, and if they had any wealth/investments/savings to hand that over to me, also. If they can't or won't do that, then they can raise the baby themselves. That's my price. I don't work for free.

[@islandgirl8067]

The wife should never have forgiven the husband for having a baby outside of their marriage. It's funny how she's the one that got cheated on & everyone, even her own kids, expected her to be a martyr for her husband's affair baby.

[@em7937]

Yeah, she was lacking serious self respect and boundaries. Now she pays the price. She should have divorced him rightaway and now her estate would not be in danger. And she allowed that crap back into her house. Some women really can't think and have no standars!

[@esther_inbloom]

How nice of you to be her accuser, as well. It seems no one finds her worthy of mercy, and understanding.

[@jojoone1099]

How can she legally keep that baby? She's not related to it at all.

[@Lokian_Mermaid]

IF she wanted to and IF the baby was living with her when husband passed, and since nobody, including bio mom, is fighting to take custody of the baby, it might not have been that difficult for her to get legal custody. The bio family, including OP's kids, would technically be "next in line" for custody and they'd all happily grant it to OP if she wanted. However, she doesn't want to. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@OneTwo-yw4ij]

@@Lokian_Mermaid, The mother would have to relinquish her parental rights. She can come back at any time and fight for her kid. But more importantly I wouldn't waste my time. Get a DNA test to make sure they can ask for anything from the ex's estate and keep it moving.

[@luthorforpresident9353]

There is an episode of Snapped about a woman who sued her 1st husband 4 custody of his kids. She was granted shared custody. His parents were cool with her. The world is an interesting place.

[@WeGoJaiye]

1st story: I wonder what is stopping the op kids and grandparents from taking the child

[@jojoone1099]

@WeGoJaiye Responsibility! The unmitigated gall of them for shaming her for not caring for their kin. I PROMISE --- if the OP wanted that random baby --- and did not let them see it... That would be a problem. She needs to alert the authorities.

[@ayingi3461]

First OP, stick to your word. Let the children or maternal family care for the child. Second OP was tricked into the marriage, she better run..

[@gcr1082]

2. Can we normalize telling women if you don't want children, you don't want to be in the position of a caregiver, don't date a man with minor aged children. It doesn't matter if he he's a weekend dad. It doesn't matter if he has zero custody but pays child support. There's no such thing as being hands-off when dating a parent. At some point in time parental responsibilities will fall on you and you would look like the asshole for saying no. 3. Op should press charges and file a report. OP should also threaten to sue the park for how they handled the incident. And if her husband can't get on the same page, OP should leave him too. Imo, what value is a man if he would watch his wife get assualted and say and no nothing about it? And sides against her? Husband has to go. If he won't protect and defend you, he won't protect and defend your kinds. You're essentially a married single woman.

[@Lokian_Mermaid]

Yes, I say this all the time. If you don't want to be with someone that has kids, then just don't. There is nothing wrong with that and you are doing the RIGHT thing by not getting involved. Nobody should ever put someone down for not wanting to date single parents. I told one young man I totally back him up if he doesn't want to date single mothers. However, I don't back him up if he wants to talk s-it about them. Nobody should give him a hard time for opting out of dating single mothers but also, he should NOT be putting them down.

[@4blueland]

Sheesh. Lots of people would love to adopt a baby. Let someone who wants a baby raise the baby! I get her conflict. It's shitty realizing the love of your life is a cheater and abuser. Love doesn't just evaporate. The door shuts, but the feelings are real! A good reason to be honest and kind to each other. It makes it SO much easier to move on

[@luthorforpresident9353]

Weekend dads are bad fathers. There are 28 days in a solar month and 30 in a lunar one. If he isn't traveling 4 work (big money like a travel healthcare worker, the truckers who make six figures, athletes and entertainers) his kids should live with him 14-15 days per month. Part-time parents are deadbeat parents.

[@MayDay-yn3bw]

Never forgive an affair

[@brandy4530]

I just want to know what is wrong with the baby’s grandparents and this woman’s children, that they think it would be in any way appropriate for this woman to adopt this child. How do they think that is going to work? I get that everyone is out for themselves. The baby gets to be in their lives, but they aren’t responsible for it as long as mom sacrifices her self respect. The only conclusion I can come to is that this woman has been a doormat her whole life, and everyone around her just expects her to suck it up, because that’s what she has always done. I hope this lady gets some therapy, and learns how to set some boundaries, and demands the people in her life treat her better.

[@Gumbier_Than]

The grandparents are one thing but the kids are the ones that are tripping me up. Why do they think their mom should be the one to take care of the kids when they're the one with the problem about the sibling going into the system? Do they respect their mother at all? F***er-a**holes. 🙄

[@theblaqkhaleesi9559]

Right. The grandparents have the MOST audacity, especially after their daughter left the country to abandon their grandchild! And her kids are crazy if they think their mom should take in their dad's affair baby at 50-60 years old! Just say you have zero respect for your mother.

[@br3669]

Literally any person off the street has less reason to refuse to raise this baby. It's terrible how many people are failing this baby but she's about the last person who should solve this problem.

[@ecclairmayo4153]

Her own kids turn on her this way shows hiw much they are used to disrespecting her

[@luthorforpresident9353]

Leave men when they cheat and then you'll never be in these situations. Calling CPS shows concern 4 the child's wellbeing. That is enough.

[@ashassassin]

I am baffled by these stories. Why do people expect a random woman to want to raise anothers child? Hell no. I am child free by choice and circumstance, I'd take in my nieces and nephews, but that's it. If my bf showed up with a baby, I'd simply say no and take the pets and go stay with my mom or a friend until I get back on my feet.

[@luthorforpresident9353]

The same way they expect childless males 2 date mothers. No one is obligated 2 raise someone else's kids--not ex-wives, not grandparents, not childless ppl who want kids of their own, not childfree ppl, no one.

[@seabreeze4559]

@@luthorforpresident9353 A single dad expected me to "help" with his kids because I wanted my own. Erm, not my free labour, no? And why would I want MY kids to always be SECOND place? yuck

[@AndyyWithAY]

If you are child free, stay away from men with children! I don't know why all these CF women have so much issue understanding that. You are going to become the defacto parent. No matter what they say, they want someone to foist their kids onto. Don't just consider a divorce, just do it!

[@Kontroversial84]

CF woman here. I agree with you. But we don't have a hard time understanding. Most adults have kids. A woman in her 30's is gona have a hard time finding a man that doesn't have kids. I settled with my now ex husband who has 2 kids bcuz I was tired of being lonely. I had already been single for 6yrs. And he deceived me into thinking he was a good guy. I thought we had something good. A lot of women are not ok with being eternally single. So we end up settling for a guy with kids bcuz we think we found our person.

[@PrincessC03]

@@Kontroversial84 That's a response to not knowing who you truly are spiritually. When you are with your self, you are not alone. You are a complete, whole and sovereign being. Looking for things outside of oneself never leads to anything good because it was always inside of you in the first place. Remove the fantasy and explore yourSELF.

[@Kontroversial84]

@@PrincessC03 Do you also say this to women who are desperate to have children?

[@PrincessC03]

​@@Kontroversial84 Are you speaking on those who cannot conceive? Then in those cases, we have to reconcile with that and enjoy our journey, because again, we are still whole and complete - with or without children. There's volunteer work, youth shelters, adoption & foster care (if one can afford it), community outreach, non-profits to pour into children if that's what your soul calls for. The fantasy tells women that she is only fulfilled in living a nuclear family (or adjacent) lifestyle - it's not the only way.

[@PrincessC03]

@@Kontroversial84 I can see that you've resigned to accept the choices that you may have made - my only intention was to empower you to realize that you can still get out of it, as you are as free as your mind tells you, and that there are many women that would love to be single and childfree. There are many communities of women out here that enjoy themselves and will support you, too.

[@rn2787]

In kindergarten I learned to not touch other people which was taught to me by my mother as well. Don't touch other people without consent.

[@amberinthemist7912]

I wonder how much that teen boy and his parents heard her own husband who witnessed her assault downplay it himself! I'd be divorced.

[@seabreeze4559]

a lot of cowardly men out there

[@em7937]

​@@seabreeze4559the protectors!!

[@brandy4530]

I do not understand the parents of the teenaged boy. My oldest son is 11, and I would have lost my mind on my son. My husband would have lost his mind on our son. I cannot imagine being the parent of a teen aged boy, and then running to his defense over something like this. I don’t understand what these parents were thinking. I know it would be some version of, “but he is a child,” but that just doesn’t cut it when it comes to this kind of behavior. I’m not saying to throw the kid in jail, but to not take it seriously at all, and to act like the boy is a victim is just bizarre. All the husband would have to do in this situation is raise his voice, and more than likely, the little punk would have been shaking in his swim trunks. I witnessed a situation similar to this years ago. I had a friend who had a very large bust. Some teen boys working at the grocery store started mocking her large chest while she was try to check out. Her husband came up behind these boys and said, “Oh, so you like taking about breast. Why don’t you try talking about my breast?” Those boys were fumbling all over themselves trying to worm their way out. There are absolutely situations where it is best for a man to get his family out of there instead of engaging with them. But a well lit, crowded pool is not one of them. The husband didn’t have to put a finger on that kid in order to put him in his place. Just teaching that kid that there are men who are going to call out this kind of behavior would have worked wonders in teaching this teen how to behave. Unfortunately, this kid learned that public harassment of women will be tolerated, not only by his parents, but also other men. This is exactly why we have so many degenerates running around.

[@louhortonsculpture]

Yep. The teen’s family saw that the husband didn’t care and that’s why they felt emboldened to threaten the wife with a lawsuit. Wow.

[@OneTwo-yw4ij]

Please. These type of parents are everywhere. I work in home healthcare and sometimes the parents will have company. Their grandchild (maybe 12) smacked my arse and made excuses why it was ok. I wasn't the first person he did that to and he only seems to do it to black women. I told his grandmother but she didn't make him apologize. They never do and he is a jack arse SA case in the making. His father is a piece of work too........The boy literally didn't wipe his arse until the 3rd grade. The parents set them up for failure.

[@seabreeze4559]

this is how ted bundy started, so yes hold him accountable criminally

[@seabreeze4559]

@@louhortonsculpture Let them sue, she can press charges.

[@seabreeze4559]

@@OneTwo-yw4ij You can report that, he's of age of criminal responsibility.

[@GreekYogurtGranola]

Story 1: ppl are crazy for even asking her this or asking what does she want to do about her husbands affair baby. Why not step up yourselves…? Y’all are related to the child.

[@Majesticlilj]

Uh-uh, get someone else to do that!

[@lavonnewr]

As soon as I can save up I'm sending my daughters to do their pink belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. If you read the history, BJJ was created by a small sickly member of a martial arts family, and his techniques let him win againhis bigger brothers, >> perfect for women and children.

[@xletragedyx]

What kind of parents were letting their sons beat up on their sick kid wtf

[@lavonnewr]

@@xletragedyx he wanted to compete. And he did

[@xletragedyx]

@@lavonnewr ohh. Good for him, then!

[@kylaarmstrong-benjamin8066]

I have a 16 year old son, and he would NEVER!!! We've talked about this specifically!!! And it's totally understandable to slap a kid trying to untie her swimsuit top! Can't believe her husband wasn't on her side! Especially when their daughter was there and seeing this!!!

[@almadilworth6571]

Lol! What's funny to me is the "dad" in the second story. He doesn't want her to discipline his children, but he wants to put the bulk of caring for them on her. He wants to have free time with the money that he doesn't have. Since he has basically almost total custody of them, are the kids living in her house along with them as well? This lady has practically played herself! Luckily, she did plan ahead for rough waters and did make a good prenupt.

[@forthewin6649]

100% played herself. It's not hard to leave men with kids alone, especially if you don't want kids.

[@fantym1633]

Sounds like just another form of baby trapping w/a side of they always switch up once they figure they have you trapped. Hopefully, the prenup holds up in court, bcuz she needs to enforce it soonest. Also hopefully, she learns that boundaries-are-non-negotiable lesson.

[@Kontroversial84]

This is what abusive men do. They want you to be the mother, but you're not allowed to discipline them. It's a way of torturing you.

[@silververnallbells191]

Yes, the older 3 kids are now living with her since their mother had a shiny new baby & no longer seems to want her other kids.

[@weaveandwelfaretookblackme]

​@silververnallbells191 nah the man most likely cheated so the mom said why be a single mom when i didn't destroy the family. I did that to my soon to be ex husband . He wanted kids when I didn't he tampered with my birth control and got me pregnant with twins and then refused to really do anything for them. eventually I got tired and I left and gave him both kids since child support was too much for him now he sees how much it really cost but he lives with his mother and family so he doesn't suffer that much like I would

[@sherrita8582]

The 2nd story😂 he said all that good stuff in the beginning, thinking yeah once we're married, she'll change her mind🤦🏾 she's going to have to stand on business or exit the marriage..he wants free time, nah brah😂

[@tiffanypayne6124]

If you let these men tell it, women can not sleep with men without falling in love with them.. Sounds like to me, somebody's lying.😂😂😂🧐💯

[@kittykatz4001]

2:21 She should disinherit her kids, and make provision for her own care for old age or care if she falls ill or becomes incapacitated. Her kids are as awful as their father!

[@80soa]

This is why I couldn't have kids. If I brought up some children and they grew up to treat me like this, wanting me to adopt a child born from cheating on me I'd be going scorched earth on everybody idgaf. I would feel so deeply betrayed. Adopt your sibling if you're so pressed about it, that child is not connected to her in any way.

[@michelleandreya7208]

Exactly this! I can see her children making excuses to not take care of her in the future, should she require assistance. They are really a piece of work😠

[@TheePrincessBrat]

Usually those children have been conditioned to treat their mom that way. That whole family has been walking all over her, her whole life. The fact that she was going to stay with him, and is still calling him the love of her life, says a lot

[@esther_inbloom]

​@@TheePrincessBratChildren are capable of knowing right, from wrong, especially when they are now adults! Children have their own personality, which they're born with. They aren't born a blank slate. It's been proven.

[@TheePrincessBrat]

@@esther_inbloom children aren’t blank slated but the environment they’re raised in matters. That has also been proven many times over.

[@continuousself-improvement1879]

S2: she is a hospice care wife, letting herself be roped in into being an unpaid nanny to those kids. So, he makes less money, saddling her with 3 kids, and he went back on his promise? Girl, that D better be real good because you are his sugar mamma AND unpaid nanny. A nurse and a purse. Like, why?

[@cocoace7587]

#2 : That husband had a whole year of free rent & STILLLL demands more . Ladies, no matter how much we do for men , it will NEVER be enough . They will take every penny or ounce of energy from women & then move to the next woman .

[@KarenGriffith_SoulfulCoaching]

Exactly!

[@fantym1633]

Well, he's proved why he was divorced by his previous single, married mom wife, as he's working hard on being divorced by his current single, married step mom wife

[@KarenGriffith_SoulfulCoaching]

@@fantym1633 his representative got them married and then the mask dropped off.

[@LaFayette2024]

Most of them are s o c io pat hs. My mom was right.

[@em7937]

Exactly!

[@dfya3294]

How they want to force the op to take the child but not the actual mother?! Tell the grandparents to take that same attitude, go to Spain & tell that girl to get her child! They might have to assure her that the baby can get ss check after they get a DNA test & that can help the mother w/ some the finances but she or the grandparents needs to get that child!

[@kittykatz4001]

I wouldn’t go to Spain 🇪🇸 except for a vacation. Get somebody else to do it.

[@theblaqkhaleesi9559]

They literally pay you when you have a kid in Spain (my husband is from there). The birth mom and grandparents are trifling af.

[@luthorforpresident9353]

The father is trifling. He should wrapped it up if he was gonna cheat. He needs 2 hire a nanny 4 his child. AP was right 2 leave. Males abandon kids everyday. #treatninjashowtheytreatwomen

[@dfya3294]

@@luthorforpresident9353 umm the man passed away🤨

[@seabreeze4559]

Nah contact Spanish authorities and they'll deport her for being a criminal.

[@gardnerhill9073]

#3: Ugh. Those same parents will be in the front row at his first r*pe trial howling that their precious baby boy is innocent and all those girls on the witness stand are lying. I once watched a 10-year-old boy chasing an older girl trying to yank off her shirt, and his mom and gramma LAUGHED. They literally said "Boys. What can you do?" I snapped, "You could try PUNISHING him when he does something wrong!" They immediately attacked ME -- but of course didn't say a word to their son about not committing SA. They too will be in the front row in the courtroom howling about their baby boy.

[@UnexpectedSpanishInquisition]

What did you do while they were laughing? Clutch your pearls? Or did you actually try and help the girl?

[@seabreeze4559]

The opening scene of Devils' Advocate. You didn't call the cops?

[@seabreeze4559]

@@UnexpectedSpanishInquisition they never call 911, ever

[@jaebyrd4608]

I was at a college party and a guy tried to grope me under my skirt and I damn near broke his fingers before i even realized I had grabbed his hand and when I realized I had I still didn’t let go he was yelling sorry and trying to pretend he wasn’t trying to grope me as if his hand accidentally flew from his body and landed inches away from my underwear clad butt cheeks

[@aviendha1154]

So gross expecting someone to raise their partners affair child! If the mothers family don’t want to step up and raise that kid, then 100% adopt that baby out, the fathers dead and the mothers abandoned the child. What else is there to do?

[@ljss123]

At least the woman married to the man with 3 kids has a prenup. Hopefully, she can get out with most of her finance intact.

[@em7937]

Well, she got that. To marry a man with kids and allow them to move into your own house. That ia dumb...!

[@donabeth4561]

I wonder if Roger and his wife’s kids are male? That would answer a lot.

[@paulaw418]

Oh and I would sue the waterpark for not keeping a safe environment for women

[@seabreeze4559]

Demand their CCTV.

[@TheePrincessBrat]

Story 4: I love when men experience what they put women through ❤. I love how they’ll swear that they’re great in bed, as if women don’t fake it. But they will never believe your “body count”. Also, I wonder the ages he’s going for? I’ll never get the men who date people who are young and carefree and cry about how they won’t settle down. Like *you* weren’t even trying to settle down until recently. Men asking each other for advice, I’m sure he’ll be in a healthy loving relationship in no time /s.

[@katherines144]

Same. Men are finally eating their own dog food and it's glorious 😊

[@seabreeze4559]

they wanna cage the bird, english slang for a woman or young girl is a bird

[@Lokian_Mermaid]

Vile. If I were one of the adult kids, I wouldn't feel a connection to that baby and I most certainly wouldn't want my mother to ever have to deal with him. The baby does have other family. This sucks horrifically for the baby but other relatives need to step up or shut up.

[@luthorforpresident9353]

That would mean many ppl wouldn't feel connected. Certain demographics routinely have kids by multiple fathers or mothers. I don't feel connected cuz we never met as "our" dad abandoned me. But I don't resent them. If they reached out and respected my boundary of not defending him or praising him I'd be their sister.

[@Lokian_Mermaid]

@@luthorforpresident9353 I get that but it should never be "presumed" kids will even want siblings that aren't from both parents. In fact, I'm appalled that such "demographics" exist. It shouldn't. I've been appalled at it ever since I was basically a toddler and couldn't grasp how some random relative was my father's child, but not my mother's, yet somehow he was my sibling? I've been disgusted with that whole thing my entire life and I've never felt a connection to that boy. He later ruined any chance for a relationship when he disrespected my mother, a woman that was nothing but kind to him. He can go burn in h-ll with his demon daddy. Our "sire" was a demon, not a man and his hell spawn inherited every bit of that. More often than not, having babies with more than one person creates extra complicated dynamics and bad blood.

[@TheePrincessBrat]

Story 3: hmm 🤔 wonder if her husband was a problematic dude bro in his past. Men defend behavior they engage in or could engage in. The teen is already a huge problem, to do that in public to an adult with their husband near! I’d bet he already has an SA of some kind under his belt.

[@seabreeze4559]

usually they SA a sister or cousin first and get bold about it

[@Diana734]

The lady needs to divorce the husband with the children. He lied to you so just separate. The entitlement and audacity of men. The teenage boy did that to an adult woman so what makes you think he would not go further with a teenage girl? The husband ain't shit for not protecting his wife.

[@bcottony]

#3 Now see this is what I mean when I say they will continue to defend the interest of men as a group over the interests of their spouses or any women in their lives. This is a PERFECT EXAMPLE of precisely what I mean. He's literally thinking about being a teenager and wanting to/having done the same thing. They always look for reasons why their behavior should be excused

[@seabreeze4559]

rationalisation

[@Kittyinshadows]

The family wanting OP to take the baby... When she has been very clear she DOES NOT LIKE IT is baffling to me. Not only would that be cruel to her it'd be cruel to the child. The fuck

[@awg7068]

I LOVE that young women aren’t wasting their time with a guy who could ‘give it up’ so easily. He’s ’for the streets’ and they leave him right there.

[@kbowman968]

“This is why men’s have too much energy, come get your children “ - Burb 😂❤❤❤ love this

[@Lysistrata2025]

#1 Get a good estate lawyer asap. #2 Pro tip: if you dont want to be put into the stepparent role, don't take in a babydaddy. If he is a fun date, stay in the dating phase and don't give him a key to your home. But best not to date them at all. #3 If a husband is cool with a teen committing SA, do not have kids with him. #4 A one night stand is not guaranteed to lead to anything. Maybe cleaning his apartment and making an amazing breakfast would help him attract a repeat visitor.

[@nixeradicatus]

This gives me another condition for marriage: vasectomy. I'm fixed, so any man that wants to commit for life to me needs a vasectomy. If he's only gonna be with me and I can't get pregnant, he doesn't need that sperm. If he balks, that's a red flag. Vasectomy is reversible so if he wants to keep his options open while we are married, that's a big nope. Too risky for me.

[@RNDiva33]

There is no way. I am taking in a child from an affair. It brings back memories of the movie fences. Denzel Washington just demanding the wife take the child because the mother died

[@luthorforpresident9353]

Viola's character shoulda left. If one parent dies the other parent absolutely should take their child. What is ridiculous is mothers dying and their mothers raising grandkids when the father is alive and well. Even when he isn't well, it is his duty as a parent 2 figure something out 4 his child. Put the child up 4 adoption like women do.

[@TheePrincessBrat]

Story 2: I’m tired of the “I don’t have time excuse”. Do they think kids are baby dolls you can just put away when you want a break?? 🙄 then the kids get caught in the middle of all that bs and exposed to god knows what, while their parent tries to outsource their raising.

[@Blech-h9z]

If there's money in the estate, watch how many people want to raise that poor baby.

[@barefoothippies]

knew a woman in her sixties with a similar situation. Everyone expected her to raise hubby's affair baby or pay the support for it since she was wealthy and all around her (including hubby) were minimum wage types. I'm guessing there is a similar reason this woman's children asked her to adopt it.

[@maryanderson9191]

This man's adultery has caused so much pain and confusion.

[@Strawberry.Letter23]

He wants to be the one to reject them, not the other way around. He’s a POS.

[@kylaarmstrong-benjamin8066]

17:07 😮 He sucks in bed! He can't admit it to himself but I think he knows deep down that's why no one is sticking around!!!

[@HmmmReally]

If teenagers want to act like grown men, then they should be treated as grown men with matching punishments. That “boys will be boys” mentality is gone.

[@seabreeze4559]

he's of age of criminal responsibility

[@PoipoleEntertainment1987]

To be honest the OP got herself into the situation by being a simp and giving her cheating husband another chance, she should have divorced him sooner so the affair baby could have been his problem. OP should tell her kids that they better prey that they don’t get cheated on.

[@caseyjude5472]

That last guy probably, no, definitely, is either a selfish or horrible lover. At least a few women would go another round if it was good. It isn’t. He needs to google some tips & tricks lol

[@fantym1633]

He pre-emptively says it can't be that since he's given pleasure ... Who else remembers the movie where Sally Field (I think it was) faked an O in a diner, calmly sitting in a booth during their meal? One of the customers said to the waitress, "I'll have what she's having."

[@A.D.I.I.D.A]

​@@fantym1633 Meg Ryan in "When Harry Met Sally"

[@Gingabread-bw6xj]

It may not even be that he’s bad in bed. It could just be that he’s looking for one night stands, since that’s what he says happens, so the women think it’s a one night stand and treat it as such. I don’t know many women who have long term relationships after one nighters when they both agreed it’s a one time deal. If he wants an actual relationship, he needs to find women also looking for a relationship and probably not sleep with them on the first date. You know…do something different than what he’s currently doing since it’s not working lol. You can’t have a deep meaningful relationship and also treat people and yourself so casually solely for sexual gratification. For some reason he doesn’t understand that.

[@luthorforpresident9353]

​@@Gingabread-bw6xjThere are plenty women who want relationships and do it on the 1st date. Shamari Devoe said she and Ronnie did it the night they met at the Soul Train Awards. I wouldn't do it, but many do.

[@seabreeze4559]

@@Gingabread-bw6xj he wants to trap them

[@thesecretshade]

I got s harassed in a public swimming pool as a teenager by a group of teenage boys. Crazy how I forgot about that. They dived to come up behind me and pinch and pull my butt cheeks. This was in the 90s. Nowadays I would stomp down.

[@BTheBoomXer]

Last story: stop having one night stands?

[@Jennifer_Lewis_Beach_Living]

This times infinity.

[@-talwer]

“And then he had the nerve to d!e?” 💀💀💀💀

[@elietahari7290]

3rd story is just a reminder of conditional the protection from xys is. Her husband is he type that will corroborate the accusation but then get mad and victim blame when it inconveniences him. It never ceases to amaze me how xys can just turn that on and off. I wonder what his response would've been if that teenager had pulled on his daughter's bathing suit in the same manner? Would she have been " over-reacting" if she clocked him like her mom did? This is why women choose the bear. At least the bear is consistent.

[@seabreeze4559]

in old hollywood films women used to slap men for a REMARK and it was acceptable as self defence

[@Iquey]

Dont be a Martha (the older servant women in handmaid's tale) to other women's kids, unless you are being paid as a babysitter , compensated by family like if it's a niece, nephew, or very young cousin, or they are a foster kid you adopted yourself.

[@OneTwo-yw4ij]

I'm still confused about why she married a single father? She's financially stable, doesn't want kids and owns her home. She seems pretty content with her life so what was the point?

[@luthorforpresident9353]

To be married. Maybe she felt like she couldn't meet a childfree man. They do tend 2 be promiscuous. They also are frequently liars, saying they want kids after they marry u. Most men w/ multiple kids don't want more.

[@lovelee1772]

An ex recently reached out trying to reconnect. He is recently divorced with an 8 yr old and a 3 yr old. The 3 yr old is an affair baby. So that's 2 mother's and 2 babies. Like I was so confused, what he was reaching out to me for. I'm like dude go make one of your families work!!😂 If I were coming to him with the same baggage, he'd be spewing all the internet talking points.😂😂

[@BurbNBougie]

What did he say in response? I gotta know

[@lovelee1772]

@BurbNBougie he told me his kids "wouldn't be a problem" . I told him any woman that takes him serious would have some sort of dealings with his children. We only talked once, but he has been "good morning beautiful" the hell out of me for almost a week now. I ended up blocking him this morning.

[@BurbNBougie]

Please please send me these screenshots!! I'm on IG and Reddit as BurbNBougie

[@seabreeze4559]

"reconnect" with your CASH

[@seabreeze4559]

@@lovelee1772 lovebombing + minimisation - of COURSE it's a problem

[@Blech-h9z]

Wow. That first story. Instant Karma is a thing.

[@edunlap6594]

6:58 Divorce EEMEEDJIATELY 🤬

[@smlorrin]

It's amazing how everyone is trying to push this baby on OP but say nothing about the deadbeat mother who abandoned the baby. (I don't care that she's young.) It would be best for the baby to go to a home that really wants him/her; the child deserves to be loved -- not resented. I just want to be clear that I'm not in any way saying that the father isn't equally responsible in situations like this. However, in this case, the father is out of the picture.

[@MsMookalate]

17:51 are these ones of old flings😂😂😂😂 I had one stalk me because I stuck with the terms of the agreement. I’m like this isn’t our agreement you placed. This is why they never have my main number. I had a couple cutty buddies who wanted me to stay. Or tried to baby trap me. They got ghosted too. Men always claim women baby trap them but I highly doubt it. Unless she says it I don’t believe the men.

[@nunya7575]

The word is in-test-ate (intestate) not interstate for when you die without a will

[@hippie1252]

Good morning, Burb ❤️

[@BurbNBougie]

Good morning!

[@SM-fx6yo]

Last guy😂🙄🤦🏽‍♀️ I bet he was cold barely conversed and didn’t try to connect in any way and then wonder why there wasn’t one… 🤡

[@levelupgoddess9289]

So the birth mother doesn’t want her own child but the wife of the cheating husband should take the child? WTF is wrong with ppl? The audacity of these ppl is disturbing. No way in hell am I taking ing o er another woman’s baby. If the roles were reversed, EVERYONE would tell the male that he should have left her and that child. I can’t stand ppl sometime.🙄🙄🙄🤯 2nd story: That’s why u never date and marry males with kids. Not sure how these women expect not to be thrown into step mommy role. Like huhhhh. U don’t want kids but date makes with kids. Lady🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴 And to move him and those kids into UR HOME. Lady. OMG 🙄🙄🙄🙄 3rd story: File SA charges on the teen and divorce ur husband.

[@Bonniebluetours2010]

Yeah, I’m so baffled by that first story. They want a completely unrelated woman to raise their grandchild? So… they want to hand that kid off to a stranger, but not one in the foster care system? Wut?

[@michelleandreya7208]

The first story - ma'am, don't you dare take on your ex's baby!! This is your time now. You are not blood. If the baby's grandparents & your adult children decline to take on parenting responsibility, then CPS need to get involved. The second story - No, No, absolutely Not! He had nothing & she was his come up. You are NOT their mother! He went back on his word regarding parenting responsibilities. Thank goodness for her prenup. Frankly I don't see a future here🤷🏿‍♀️

[@May-nt3ow]

3. How would the husband feel if a boy did that to his daughter when she's older? Still chill? 1. I feel bad for the baby. The baby doesn't deserve this. Find a loving family. He/She didn't ask to be made or born.

[@paulaw418]

That second family wow. One of the best solutions would be for Dad to teach the children how to do their own laundry. Teach them how to cook and clean up the kitchen after themselves. That will help Dad out a lot. And not just the girl children because that's not fair either!

[@br3669]

He is 35 with three kids. Very unlikely all of them are old enough that they should do all this for themselves. The best and only solution is for her to divorce him, and for him to parent his own children himself, like the big boy he is. Seriously, he's a ginormous AH but she kinda sucks too. Nobody is obligated to care for other people's children! Nobody is obligated to move an entire family into their home when they have barely a relationship to 3 out of 4 people! I'm not saying she needs to do any of those things, she absolutely does not. But you also can't be married to someone and their children are nothing to you. I mean - I guess technically you can, but it's borderline sociopathic. These kind of "deals" are insane. If you don't want to be family to the children (fair!!), *then don't make yourself family to their parent* !

[@seabreeze4559]

@@br3669 sociopathic? they're not hers.

[@br3669]

@@seabreeze4559 And? Both can be true. Moving a bunch of children into your home yet continuously demonstrating that they are nothing to you, is cruel. Being cruel to children just because they are someone else's, is borderlands sociopathic. Especially when it'd be so damn easy to just not move them into your house in the first place.

[@em7937]

​@@br3669she is not being cruel at all! She treates them right...but they had a deal that he is the one taking care of the chores raising them. How is that cruel? Not doing the laundry for his kids is cruel? He does it, because that is ehat they agreed. She still hangs out with the whole lot of them, go for dinners but she does need to do the chores ....! That os not cruel, that is fair...

[@br3669]

@@em7937 She has a deal with HIM. I don't say she owed HIM anything, because she doesn't. But she doesn't have a deal with the children, because you can't have deals with children. If you think moving children into your house, and then maintaining enough distance from them that you'd cook your own dinner just for yourself while telling them "you're not my responsibility", then I guess that reflects the kind of values you have. 🤷 As an adult who grew up in a family like that and had no say in anyone's "deals", I can tell you it's a very painful experience that she's inflicting on those kids. Living in someone's house who makes it clear you're nothing to them, and you're only there because that person wants to bang your parent, isn't a cozy experience. Any decent person simply wouldn't have married these kids' dad. It's not particularly hard to do.

[@dezinechic]

im trying to see what the second story saw in a broke underemployed baby daddy????

[@luthorforpresident9353]

Is she 🖤? Is he 🖤? Hang on, he was divorced, so not a baby daddy and likely not 🖤 cuz they don't like marriage or having all their kids by one woman.

[@dezinechic]

@@luthorforpresident9353 he HAD to be divorced before they married so yes....a baby daddy! they get not the slightest bit of leniency with me. now as far as black ion know BUT lot of snow kings have been paying attention and have now started to ask the question to themselves...."wait a minute why am I trying to do the right responsible thing if tyrone/jirone can get away with the irresponsible trickery he does I should be able to as well?". so A LOT of them are in close association with their b. male friends and have started taking "pointers and tips" from them. that tutelage he got about going the whole sphill of no mommy only role model stuff sounds slick as he//! ijs.

[@kittythejackson]

HOLD UP! Story 1: They anticipated or expected OP to care for a baby she neither had nor adopted WITH her husband, but was born out of an affair? Why can’t they force mom to bring her irresponsible, home-recking butt home and raise her own dang child?! TF??!?!?!?!?! Ok….

[@luthorforpresident9353]

She didn't wreck his home--he did. She may not have even known he was married, and even so, she did not take vows w/ his wife. Also, her bc may have failed. Ppl get pregnant on bc everyday. The married senior citizen with adult kids is the irresponsible one. Good on AP 4 not being stuck with a child like so many women.

[@TheePrincessBrat]

For the woman with the audacious husband. It seems like a lot of people are missing that she said she “likes” kids. So it would have worked if he were a weekend parent or if his kids were older and more independent. But with him having near full custody, you need _love_ children and be okay with the role of “step-parent”. I’ve seen this work for both genders. With men, usually the bio dad sucks and the step dad is great-the kind that ends up walking his step daughter down the aisle. With women, the bio mom is usually an active parent.

[@Chloenextdoor]

This man really tried to trick that woman with his lies. He’s living rent free AND wants a housewife, maid & mooch!

[@laceyl5682]

"these are the most logical leaders" 🤣

[@elipotter369]

That boy undoing her top - she did self defense. You react before you have time to think.

[@beepbopboop7727]

She should not have married him and she should not have allowed him to move in. She made ALL the wrong moves.

[@marthadivine8426]

She not wrong at all. The child's family can take care of the child. It's not her problem to take on his burdens. The man was a horrible. The kids can take care of the child cause I wouldn't. Why take on someone else's burden.

[@kikidevine694]

OP needs to be sorting this out, and spend the rest of the inheritance before her kids (ingrates all), inherit it. With the SA post, what is her husband teaching his daughter? Last one, women get mocked for investing too much in a one night stand, but a man is butt hurt when he does the same? Also, he needs to stop looking for a one night stand and start actually dating. And stop being such a tart

[@beeha8133]

I hate that for the baby in the first story. Irresponsible adults bringing life in the world smh now the child will have to deal with the bad decisions of its parents even though she is innocent.

[@TheePrincessBrat]

Story 1: well, hearing how her parents are I see how their daughter ended up with a 50yo “bf” at 22. Edit: I also see the 22yo as another victim in this story 🤷🏽‍♀️ I would really love to hear her side. There’s a reason she reacted like that, and why she was with someone old enough to be her father.

[@luthorforpresident9353]

Her parents taught her well like SheraSeven's, Amal Clooney's, the current Mrs. Dwayne Johnson, or all the young women who get money from older men!

[@TheePrincessBrat]

@@luthorforpresident9353 I think this is sarcasm? I’m going to take it as sarcasm

[@luthorforpresident9353]

Good for the affair partner. There is no reason the child should live with her most of the time and him only every other weekend (or less).

[@rn2787]

Maybe he should try friends with benefits before he levels up to a relationship. Outside of that some therapy and learning to be better in bed.

[@shadyKpopFan]

10:00 I love this situation for her She deserves that and more Don't divorce him Let him suck the last drop of your youth, money and energy You really helping the stray man out here letting us single women with less bad apples ❤ Well done

[@bcottony]

#2 He thought he was successful with his Kong. It seems pretty obvious what his intentions were from day one. But let's assume they weren't . The best possible interpretation that I can give, with the best possible excuse/motive is that his ex did all of the invisible labor and he was not aware to any meaningful degree what actual parenting looks like so he thought he could do it. That is with the best possible interpretation of his actions. I believe the more likely scenario, is that he thought with his magical 🍆 he could get her to change her mind. That her natural maternal instincts would kick in (That literally all people with uteruses have) And he would be able to walk away securing the knowledge that she has lightened his load. If he could afford $2,000 a month in rent he could absolutely afford child care. What she's now dealing with is weaponized incompetents. He now has the money to spend on frivolously as he wants because she is responsible for keeping a roof over their head and he knows it. I agree with burb and bougie, All of her mistakes were made in the first couple of paragraphs. This man saw her coming a mile away. Time to exercise that prenup and get TF out.

[@heidiweidmann2926]

1st story: If her children are worried about their half-sibling, they need to step up, not their mother who got cheated on. It is NEVER a good idea to stick someone with a child they resent. I have no idea how old her adult children are but, I was married and pregnant at 21. With the added SS benefits, they would have quite a bit of help and could absolutely take the responsibility if they do not want to lose their lil sibling. 3rd story: if either of my sons did that, they would get quite the slap off of me too! I even posed this one to my husband and he was shocked. As a parent, he said he would’ve told our sons they FAFO, don’t touch people. Last story: If he is looking for a steady relationship, my honest advice would be to wait a few dates before hooking up. That’s just my personal opinion but it can make a huge difference in chemistry.

[@kruidnootje437]

There's not a chance in hell that woman can take custody of a child not related to her when the bio mom and family are all living. So they can yell at her all they want but it wouldn't even happen if she wanted it to happen.

[@Rogue-zv5to]

This is why I find it very hard to believe some of these reddit stories..who are these people that think, that a person man or woman is going to take responsibility for their spouse's affair baby. Especially when said spouse is dead. And who with any common sense would call this woman an a-hole for not wanting to raise her dead husband's affair baby, her kids are crazy and that child's grandparents are crazy. That's their grandchild, they need to take care of it.