Burning Sun: Exposing the secret K-pop chat groups - BBC World Service Documentaries

[@BBCWorldService]

Click here to subscribe to our channel 👉🏽 bbc.in/3VyyriM 🎥 Watch this documentary in KOREAN here: bbc.in/3WQVFDg , in MANDARIN here: bbc.in/4ayps78 and in THAI here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGqWpnuwps-Dqtk 🎧 Listen to the podcast series "Intrigue: Burning sun" here: bbc.in/4dUejQL 🗞 Read more about this investigation here: www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-69020490

[@yumyummy3478]

it took me a while to understand what is molka is. After some time I remembered that is short version of hidden camera in Korean. I wish it was explained. I think victims and witnesses voices should've been changed and their silhouette should've been covered better. I also wished there were more details about investigation process and Korean law system. Overall thank you for all brave ppl that stood up for victims and spoke up about this in documentary. I hope few delusional fans watch this documentary and wake up. Also thank you for covering this case.

[@ごん-l4c]

Could you please add Japanese subtitles? I would like to avoid the risk of amateurs adding subtitles full of mistakes and spreading distorted information.

[@dddi1476]

Indonesian translate please

[@natymiltonfr4889]

Agradecería traducción al español.. creo que todos deberían poder saber que sucedió en este caso

[@낭만닥터-o8g]

Goo Hara died after being attacked by malicious comments from most Korean men.

[@rosezerose]

The fact that people cancel idols who date or smoke but not literal rapists. This is what our world has become? Totally disgusting.

[@migspeculates]

don't expect too much from Generation Zombie

[@dontknowhersry1214]

@@migspeculates Excuse me? Don't expect too much from the generation that is actively boycotting and protesting abt a genocide? What kind of uninformed opinion is that. A lot of the people that are defending these idols are either korean or are just plain blinded by their "idols". Do not bring generations into this discussion when it has nothing to do with it.

[@bubbachildsupport4535]

@@migspeculatesbruh let’s not act like previous generations didn’t do the exact same shit 😂 meat riding fans are gonna keep being meat riding fans no matter what

[@thulasibai6136]

I remember grown-up korean women sent trucks to a boy group for having female dancers.Also a Kpop idol's kid received deathreates.But for problematic idols,no trucks or no planes.Mindset of this people is disgusting.

[@irinepineda6063]

​@@migspeculatesayan nanaman ang isang pinoy na binibring up ang gen z kahit wala namang kinalaman sa topic

[@stargazer6852]

I think Seungri serving only 18 months shows us how little women are respected and protected by the law.

[@ethereal_moon888]

Lo peor es que todavía tiene "fans" que lo apoyan

[@stargazer6852]

@@ethereal_moon888 I sometimes wonder what's inside those people's mind, how exactly do they function to still be fans after all of that

[@justmytwocentsdontgetmad]

South Korea's extremely lax laws protecting women from physical and sexual assault is just dumbfounding. Worse, their government sees nothing wrong with it. All that economic and technological growth over the years, but the country's social norms are stuck in the Dark Ages.

[@acetheist3932]

More like the judicial system is incredibly easy to manipulate in the favour of rich and powerful people.

[@stargazer6852]

@@acetheist3932 Yes🙌

[@imalone7794]

The fact that Go Hara played a big part in saving these girls

[@YzahZenCasabuena]

rip go hara

[@Ok-ky6rz]

Now hyuna makes my blood boil. Pathetic. I pray even my enemy shouldn’t get a friend like her.

[@lynnn3537]

Rest in peace Goo Hara

[@lamoskgr]

My heart will always break for her. She was such a strong person❤

[@admyok7197]

Why?

[@Dumdumdaa]

I'm a Korean woman, and the news about foreigners obssessed with Korean men with only the images from the mass media makes me sooo worry about them. Dating abuse and scam cameras are soooo common in here. Please avoid them as you can, dear fellow females.

[@user-jy3ux5iy5f]

Korean women play the victim

[@xiaonation]

​@@user-jy3ux5iy5f what does going to the military have to do with being a decent human being? Someone can go to the military and still be a filthy human being? Please use your 2 braincells properly

[@xiaonation]

​@@user-jy3ux5iy5fjust say you wanna r@pe women and get away with it, with ALLLLL this defending you're doing for these losers 😂 how many comments have you left on this video? Maybe spend that time learning how to use your brain 💀💀

[@beckc101ify]

Thank you for looking out! Love and support from America!

[@mehakmahadule]

​@@user-jy3ux5iy5fand people like you the reason for this

[@UngreatfulPunk]

Calling them trash is disrespectful to the trash.

[@mygolconda]

cant agree more!! Those criminals are lesser than a trash or a piece of shxx!

[@Dopoqh]

agree

[@rr.aionama]

At least most trash used to useful at some point

[@elenabob4953]

Oh but Senguri is innocent :). Sure, this is why he was convinced. I find it sickening that even now you see comments supporting him.

[@vrealtaewife534]

Even trash is still more valuable than Seungri, Junyoung and Choi

[@sarahjiiens]

Some said that this was released 5 years too late, but I firmly believe this dropped just in time. Just when people were about to forgive and forget... just when these criminals were about to enjoy their lives again as if nothing happened. It's the right time to be reminded of how hideous this crime was.

[@Ichigo_1026]

💯

[@vitrians]

Agree

[@juichijoo]

agreed. even better if the media keeps on coming out stuff like this every year to remind the public of the heinous crimes. let us not forget and stay vigilant!

[@denishavail1773]

*cough* seungri *cough"

[@slowvideo]

Exactly.

[@_jamrocks]

I felt bad for the first journalist who broke the scandal. She lost her two babies just because of those blind fans.

[@ohbiteme]

Yeah :(((

[@YZRgKABUDLLu5TIajIShDw]

not only because of those blind fans but also and mostly because of anti feminist men

[@tk-hu6yw]

@@ANIMEDROIDLblame the victims of course

[@ellyella6500]

How she lost 2 babies?

[@kaiijjune9112]

​@@ellyella6500Watch the full video

[@krissve]

The fact the Jung is partying in France and plans to be part of the music industry again. Actually they all do. They haven’t changed. Wild

[@DetektivConan1000]

Maybe he changed. I did his service. And how can we resocials people into socoety if we don't give them a second chance

[@krissve]

@@DetektivConan1000 they caught him dating two girls and lied to the both of them giving them the same exact treatment. Same room, same everything. Drop one off pick one up.

[@luckymoon1162]

​@@DetektivConan1000 If you feel sympathy to someone who doesn't even show guilt, that's not sympathy anymore that's showing support. Stop watching 🌽 and start try to be decent human for once

[@DetektivConan1000]

@@luckymoon1162 where is written I sympathize him ?

[@s9744073e]

@@DetektivConan1000 No please, there is no such thing as change so quickly with men of this mind-set unless they become a monk or turn into some saint. If he went to France to party its already so obvious his so ready to continue his malicious activities else where in other countries...

[@katchanii]

The fact that seungri only got 18 months and is a free man makes my blood boil. Put that man behind bars!!

[@ilovebaking-v2v]

Just a question, doesn't Korea have death penalty ? Did it never have one ?

[@hanseekers9276]

It's just that there's no proof that seungri involve in SA and molka. He just provided the mean and place for other predator to capture their victims. But that on itself is a serious crime, 18 months is to little of a punishment

[@CHEEZE369]

@@ilovebaking-v2vI don't think so

[@LilacLoverTPKN]

While in Vietnam an old lady who is Bitcoin scammer got the death penalty, Korea laws are BS

[@kneenie9490]

👏Right!

[@manson_studio]

"She succeeded in protecting us, but we failed to protect her".. farewell Goo Hara, REST IN LOVE 🥀

[@elvierobin477]

Her Mom is absolutely garbage for trying to claim her inheritance Mind you her mom abandoned her

[@daves-w6j]

Someone please save this country, 80% of us Korean women experience domestic violence. If things continue like this, the number of suicides will increase 😢

[@nnnn-sc2im]

@@user-jy3ux5iy5fbecause the case hasn’t been closed there’s still a lot of speculation going on

[@addylovesyou1960]

This broke my heart 💔💔💔

[@YasmineYasmine-n9m]

@@user-jy3ux5iy5f crime is crime

[@crankynutcase]

What's worse is how many 'fans' are still cheering for these people..

[@umalikas1]

Ikr?! I don't get it, I've read about actors and idols being cancelled for the most ridiculous reasons and here's Seungri and friends still being supported by their fans and living their lives like old times.

[@justfortoday1234]

Exactly. I am a fan of a Kpop band myself but really don't understand this type of fan behavior. Crime is a crime.

[@elainelindsey1306]

Some kpop stans have a cult mentality, when they attack online they ask other members to join in. It's sad music is supposed to be enjoyed but some kpop stans and Fandom treat it like it's a full time job, they need help with there obsessive behavior

[@Nanda_ares]

They're in denial. Some of them said he didn't do any of that, he's just getting dragged......like wtf

[@bangballs]

Kpop fans are truly mentally challenged 😂😂

[@dipmalaahir9803]

Just a few days ago, I came across a video of the street interview with an immigrant prosecutor. She discussed the Korean law system and expressed her concerns, stating that the law appeared to be biased against women and foreigners. She emphasized that Korean law seemed to favour men and seemed to hold women to a much higher standard. She warned women to be cautious before marrying a Korean man and advised them to thoroughly study Korean laws before making any significant decisions.

[@eli-iw1hz]

Oh yeah I saw that video too

[@Snshwwh]

Don't ask laws online community. Ask lawyers about Korea law. -A 20-year-old man who completed his military service in Korea returned from military service 10 days ago. - .2024.6. 27. (화성 동탄 화장실 사건)In Dongtan, Hwaseong, a Korean woman in her 30s reported to the police that a man touched her breasts and genitals, and the woman kicked the man's genitals and ran away. - Currently, there is only the woman's claim and the man's counterargument, with no substantive evidence. - The man was threatened by the police to stay quiet, and the man who had just been discharged from the military is scheduled to be imprisoned under the principle of presumption of guilt without any evidence. In this way, the Hwaseong Tongtan Police Station in Korea has achieved the highest rate of arrest of sex offenders. This is Korean law. Korean women in their 20s and 30s have made a lot of money through false accusations, and this is the popular culture of Koreans in their 20s and 30s. In a Korean women-only community, many know-hows are being shared on how to report men for false accusations and receive settlement money More than 80% of Korean women who go to nightclubs like burning sun do so with the intention of having a one-night stand. Just ask them directly. These so-called victims have one-night stands and receive millions of dollars. In our country, sex workers receive tens of thousands of dollars in free government support. Discrimination is due to ignorance, so educate yourself. BBC girls get 1000,000$ from bigbang. Actor Lee Sun-kyun was falsely accused of sexual assault by self-proclaimed radical feminists from the Daum Kakao Cafe (Yeoseongsidae), which has 840,000 members. After succumbing to their threats and extortion, paying them hundreds of thousands of dollars, he tragically committed suicide. Evidence of blackmail and false accusations was presented to the police, leading to the arrest and subsequent confession of the perpetrators. They were sentenced to one year in prison. This story is currently being covered by Korean media outlets. Many K-pop fans, predominantly women including radical feminists, also contributed to the tragic deaths of Shirley and Goo Hara with their hurtful comments. Shirley was targeted for her appeal to male audiences, leading to relentless online harassment and her untimely death. Goo Hara's suicide was likely influenced by this negativity and the Werther effect. These individuals frequently gather on Daum's official community, Yeo Seong Si Dae, which is known for its 840,000 extremist members. Within this closed community, Shirley was unjustly demonized and became the target of a relentless witch hunt. Under the Women's Protection Act in Korea, men often bear the burden of proving their innocence in sexual assault cases, leading to convictions based solely on accusations. A notable example is the case involving Yeongsu Oh, an actor from the "Squid Game" series, where the only evidence was the accuser’s diary. This legal bias was also evident in Lee Sun-kyun’s case, where false accusations led to devastating consequences. Statistics suggest that over 80% of Korean women go to nightclubs with the intention of having a one-night stand. However, the court often renders guilty verdicts based on the presumption of guilt in sexual assault cases while being more lenient in cases of prostitution and drug crimes. Despite Korea's minimum sentence of 10 years for rape, some argue that the penalties are still too lenient. Korea refers to rape as "robbery rape" and follows the principle of presumption of guilt. The 840,000 members of Kakao's women-only Daum official cafe, Yeoseongsidae, who have been implicated in criminal activities for sharing videos containing personal information of minors, have surprisingly received little attention. Insights from Reddit posts have brought to light the site's reputation for unlawfully distributing facial and nude photos, as well as personal details like addresses and names. This underscores the crucial need for direct permission from the operator to join. Notably,The exposure of this information didn't stem from formal reports but rather surfaced through disclosures on Reddit, where a former USFK member revealed the situation. The Kakao official cafe gained public attention for the first time due to its association with the former President Moon Jae-in's Democratic Party, which had close ties to the police chief who overlooked the Burning Sun scandal. Consequently, Korean media outlets like '뉴데일리' refrained from reporting on it, showing deference to the party's influence. However, it wasn't until the recent revelation of the site's criminal activities by the US military personnel that it was first brought to light. If you look at the on the site and you can show what information is being shared, they secretly filmed a minor wearing a school uniform and commented on it, saying, "he has a pretty genitals," "The face and nude photos are cute who is 17 so perfect as a sexual plaything." This crime is pubilcized for the first time in medias and newspapers because United States Forces were also recently targeted. ## Overview of the Training Recruit Torture and Murder Incident A significant point of focus in this incident is South Korea's policy of promoting civilian women to officers in the military through a quota system. This female officer, who had never seen sunlight and had extremely fair skin, imposed additional heavy burdens on the recruit and failed to take appropriate medical measures even as his health deteriorated severely. This incident tragically involves the death of a recruit due to torture during military training. ### Incident Process 1. **Recruit A Enlistment**: - Recruit A enlisted in the military. - Recruit A had been in the military for only 9 days. 2. **Excessive Burden and Torture**: - Despite already carrying a heavy military pack weighing approximately 40kg, Officer B forced Recruit A to carry an even heavier load. - As a result, Recruit A's health deteriorated significantly, and despite requests for help from fellow recruits, Officer B ignored them. 3. **Tragic Outcome**: - Due to the excessive burden and torture, Recruit A eventually died. - Subsequently, Officer B attempted to cover up the incident, but it was exposed due to efforts from medical institutions and military officials. ### Controversial Elements 1. **Gender Disparity in Punishment**: - Many people criticize the fact that Officer B, as the perpetrator, received not even an arrest or investigation but instead a month-long vacation supposedly for mental stability, solely because she is a woman. However, South Korean women in their 20s and 30s tend to distort this as a "Chosun Dynasty exile measure" and implicitly support the perpetrator due to her gender. - Politicians are wary of the response from young female voters and have thus faced criticism for not handling the incident appropriately. Given the significant political influence of women in South Korean society, it is important for women to bravely report such incidents to the media. However, currently, very few Korean women have come forward with this incident to the press. Seoul National University's Happiness Research Center and Kakao Geachi jointly conducted and published the "ABOUT H: South Korea Happiness Report 2019" (21st Century Books) on the 9th. Professor Choi In-cheol and the research team from Seoul National University's Happiness Research Center also held a press conference at Gwanghwamun Vertex Korea on the same day. The survey targeted 1.05 million people over the past year, accumulating a total of 2.27 million records due to the possibility of duplicate responses. The research team and publishers claimed it to be the world's first and largest "national happiness research project." According to the survey findings, women in their 20s and 30s exhibited the highest levels of materialism, the lowest gratitude index (degree of felt gratitude), and the highest prevalence of neurosis (emotional anxiety). They also showed a high tendency to compare themselves with others. Professor Choi stated, "The answer to gender differences lies in neurosis. Women in their 20s and 30s showed the highest tendency towards neurosis," adding, "Women in their 20s and 30s also had the lowest levels of gratitude. Therefore, they exhibit a heightened sense of victimization, mistrust towards others, and a significantly increased likelihood of explosive and aggressive behavior even with minor stressors.,

[@SPLiixD]

Wasn't that on Asian Boss?

[@val_exo]

Yeah,I saw that too

[@akma3235]

Japan is worse

[@mademoiselleabir9659]

Losing your children because of some rapist's fans is insane... I feel deeply sorry for the first journalist

[@ting-ting7001]

I remember when she was investigating this. His label protected him back in 2016.

[@user46421]

@@ting-ting7001 What was his label?

[@lyniel9017]

​@@user46421 YG obviously

[@ting-ting7001]

@@user46421He has the same label as Younha, who is an amazing singer and has collab-ed with Epik High. I don’t remember what the label was.

[@digital_diaries1]

Ikr it wasn’t just one but two miscarriages and she’s childless breaks my heart

[@paulinam1280]

6 years?? 2 years?? for a GANG R4PE??? that sounds awfully short for the irreparable damage they caused to that woman.

[@Death_by_Kim_Yoohyeon]

Their law system is extremely different than western countries. Worst part is if you do a sentence which is less than , i think was 1.5 years /2 years you actually dont have a criminal record...

[@daze7465]

u get around the same sentence for smoking weed which is insane…

[@kaelthunderhoof5619]

Nah, our law here in Philippines is if rape it's life imprisonment

[@sleepyearth]

Korean lawmakers think women deserve even less if not for a fact that they are scared of the backlash.

[@mammonsimp6973]

I remember my friend was drunk and got sexually harassed, the police said it was her fault wearing skirt cuz the man is drunk and didn't know anything. She went straight to home after that and never go back to s. Korea afterwards

[@rem0375]

never trust your idols. they’re simply celebrities, they’re not your friends and they’re not the people you might think they are

[@GreenGretel]

Absolutely. Celebrity culture feels especially dangerous these days, with the way the internet enables and encourages the parasocial dynamic. People are so quick to trust in the images these strangers show them, and then to reflexively deny or get defensive, even fanatical, when new information emerges that could throw said image into question. You. do. not. know. these. celebs. Never forget that, people. In my life, I've been surprised by what people are capable of behind closed doors even from certain individuals I _did_ know personally. The idiotic arrogance and naivete to assume that you could ever intimately know and vouch for the character of someone you have no personal relationship with boggles the mind...

[@user-jy3ux5iy5f]

Korean men are much kinder than men from European countries.🖕🏻

[@SJ98]

Yeah this documentary shows that...truth is hard to digest 😏​@@user-jy3ux5iy5f

[@212MAY]

That goes for anyone, even your family members and neighbors.

[@Rosa-sh3nm]

​@@212MAY but at least easy to find the true colors of your family members or neighbors by paying attention to the lifetime detail, cause they are living around you. But not with celebrity. Media makes them look super freakin good like an angel many times

[@RuiEnn]

this is not just a video, it’s a reminder

[@graceababan]

The fact that the 1st reporter had 2 miscarriages due to the backlash of reporting the truth makes my blood boil. These online people hiding behind keyboards are murderers

[@aparnarajesh]

my heart break for her and i blame those fans and trolls need to jail

[@rebeccaavoca9143]

they caused the death of the late "Parasite" actor too ..

[@rod1320]

It’s crazy to me that they were harassing the person simply revealing what was happening and protecting the sick and twisted men committing these atrocious acts. What is going on in these sickos’ minds?!

[@rod1320]

@@rebeccaavoca9143 that case is more complicated. The netizens weren’t alone in pushing him to his death. The women who framed him and, most importantly, the police leaking and twisting information about him and the questioning he underwent are mainly to blame. Netizens went along with the trash they were given and overreacted, as usual. However, had the police not fed him to the wolves, in an effort to cover up the political scandal, the man would still be alive today. They’re the true guilty parties in this, he was targeted by the police, along with other celebrities.

[@g.mendoza8138]

@@rod1320 It is a reflection of them

[@wstriaflwr]

imagine you got traumatized for your whole life while the one who got you traumatized only punished for a few years...

[@urmum8177]

or 18 months even🤡

[@saijka1287]

I dont get it! How can they be free?? And what about all those other men, those VIP's No one knows who they are. This is so sick im shooked.

[@Snshwwh]

The rest are presidents of large Chinese companies.

[@jujoonline8248]

@@saijka1287the vip‘s in burning sun should have been recorded on a public list like the people in the n-th chatrooms!

[@jungmeny6515]

Yeah, and it was a cause in korea when old men stole eggs when there was no food in the covid pandemic, and the police gave him 8 to 10 years in prison.

[@Panellope]

I don't understand how an alledged bullying scandal could end an idols career but not this ACTUAL CRIME

[@redbloomings7523]

LIKE SOOJIN😢😢😢 i hope she’s doing well she’s so beautiful

[@Janalyien]

@@redbloomings7523she just had a comeback with Mona Lisa 🎀

[@ahha6304]

easy, the head prosecutor back in that time is now, ahem cough cough, I can't say it without diplomatic conflictions or getting sued by the government, but you could guess right now I believe

[@polandi4057]

@@redbloomings7523 South Korea really hates women...

[@ladynikkie]

Corruption in the industry and law enforcement these people can practically buy their way out of a crime that's the problem

[@solesofwind9543]

Jung Joon Young was released march of this year and was already seen flirting with girls in a nightclub in France (Lyon) in July and looking for new opportunities. Those guys learned nothing from their crimes and past lifes. They goes to others countries that’s all…

[@_leen]

Seriously??? That guy is in Lyon???

[@Nat_BLSK]

Let him play stupid games in the west and find out.

[@eksmaniak]

Yeah I heard he wants to open a restaurant in France. I hope people would boycott him and others too!

[@gandalf8454]

Well, france doesnt joke about these type of cases so let him play and find out

[@NinaSysel]

To be honest: It's not just the guy, who has learned nothing. Every women should at least turn around.

[@pyrleo5045]

This documentary came out perfectly because Jung Joonyoung is free. He’s planning to leave South Korea and continue to work as a producer as if nothing happened. This is a good reminder. Seungri is already partying.

[@ting-ting7001]

We gotta make this Documentary viral. It’s perfect that he’s the face of the documentary.

[@leecox6241]

This will follow him wherever he goes on the planet!

[@jesjes4627]

Seungri is seen going on holiday and party in Bali like nothing happened. I feel so disgusted

[@Deeeedlicious]

I saw on twitter that Seungri is in talks or smth to open up a club in Hong Kong? Truly insane....

[@anmolpatel5370]

It's disgusting I've heard Seungri is opening another club in Cambodia as well when he should be banned from further business. I hope more people are informed with this release and pressure gets applied so there are heavier sentences. This should never be forgotten, nor forgiven by the public because the victims will forever be traumatized while they (all the people involved) just view it as a stain on their reputation and get to move on when they've committed inhumane, evil acts without remorse and found pleasure in it. Please continue to support this documentary, everyone else covering this story, and all the victims as it is not easy to speak up against well-connected, rich people.

[@soparkin]

the FACT that she was so stressed she got 2 miscarriages and yet she still persisted to endure for the good of the larger party…so much respect

[@khush...30]

She literally is a superwoman 🦸‍♀️

[@terra-xoxo]

​@@user-jy3ux5iy5f Here comes the mysogynist Korean man who treats women like s*x toys

[@국순당-c8g]

Watch out for Korean men. Every day, news of countless killings of Korean women, animal abuse, and sex crimes come up. Feminist in Korea If you shout, your job will be cut off and your identity will be revealed, making you a mockery. I am korean woman. I want to get married, but I chose a non-marriageist because my life is important I like children. However, Korea is a dangerous country to raise children. Korean men do not care for the weak. Even if you commit sexual assault on a child, you don't go to jail or come out in a year

[@국순당-c8g]

Korean men are not considerate of the weak. Korean women are very surprised when they visit abroad. This is because foreign men help carry heavy luggage on the stairs. This is impossible in Korea. In Korea, pregnant women's seats on subways or buses are all occupied by Korean men. I'm not lying

[@csenegirl414]

she's a hero.

[@hyoyeonsliver]

the fact that ALL of these men are now roaming free today is a representation of how fucked the korean justice system is. i hope all the victims find peace.

[@RD0502]

I still cannot wrap my head after watching In the name of God - a holy betrayal ( Netflix). These Ajhussis are sick as hell!

[@AramasG]

Yup you get more time for smoking weed and the fact that you get a more lenient sentence if you commit a crime whilst intoxicated, is just absolutely nuts! Their justice system is a joke.

[@preciouslyunhinged]

That's scary

[@preciouslyunhinged]

​@@RD0502I heard the podcast on yt abt it..😳...some.peaple are f-d up,its scary

[@Poemingty]

The worst is most justice systems are the same

[@fonzymae]

Korea never really grew as a nation. The way their men treat their women is just the same with how they did it in the Joseon era.

[@Snshwwh]

Don't ask laws online community. Ask lawyers about Korea law. -A 20-year-old man who completed his military service in Korea returned from military service 10 days ago. - .2024.6. 27. (화성 동탄 화장실 사건)In Dongtan, Hwaseong, a Korean woman in her 30s reported to the police that a man touched her breasts and genitals, and the woman kicked the man's genitals and ran away. - Currently, there is only the woman's claim and the man's counterargument, with no substantive evidence. - The man was threatened by the police to stay quiet, and the man who had just been discharged from the military is scheduled to be imprisoned under the principle of presumption of guilt without any evidence. In this way, the Hwaseong Tongtan Police Station in Korea has achieved the highest rate of arrest of sex offenders. This is Korean law. Korean women in their 20s and 30s have made a lot of money through false accusations, and this is the popular culture of Koreans in their 20s and 30s. In a Korean women-only community, many know-hows are being shared on how to report men for false accusations and receive settlement money More than 80% of Korean women who go to nightclubs like burning sun do so with the intention of having a one-night stand. Just ask them directly. These so-called victims have one-night stands and receive millions of dollars. In our country, sex workers receive tens of thousands of dollars in free government support. Discrimination is due to ignorance, so educate yourself. BBC girls get 1000,000$ from bigbang. Actor Lee Sun-kyun was falsely accused of sexual assault by self-proclaimed radical feminists from the Daum Kakao Cafe (Yeoseongsidae), which has 840,000 members. After succumbing to their threats and extortion, paying them hundreds of thousands of dollars, he tragically committed suicide. Evidence of blackmail and false accusations was presented to the police, leading to the arrest and subsequent confession of the perpetrators. They were sentenced to one year in prison. This story is currently being covered by Korean media outlets. Many K-pop fans, predominantly women including radical feminists, also contributed to the tragic deaths of Shirley and Goo Hara with their hurtful comments. Shirley was targeted for her appeal to male audiences, leading to relentless online harassment and her untimely death. Goo Hara's suicide was likely influenced by this negativity and the Werther effect. These individuals frequently gather on Daum's official community, Yeo Seong Si Dae, which is known for its 840,000 extremist members. Within this closed community, Shirley was unjustly demonized and became the target of a relentless witch hunt. Under the Women's Protection Act in Korea, men often bear the burden of proving their innocence in sexual assault cases, leading to convictions based solely on accusations. A notable example is the case involving Yeongsu Oh, an actor from the "Squid Game" series, where the only evidence was the accuser’s diary. This legal bias was also evident in Lee Sun-kyun’s case, where false accusations led to devastating consequences. Statistics suggest that over 80% of Korean women go to nightclubs with the intention of having a one-night stand. However, the court often renders guilty verdicts based on the presumption of guilt in sexual assault cases while being more lenient in cases of prostitution and drug crimes. Despite Korea's minimum sentence of 10 years for rape, some argue that the penalties are still too lenient. Korea refers to rape as "robbery rape" and follows the principle of presumption of guilt. The 840,000 members of Kakao's women-only Daum official cafe, Yeoseongsidae, who have been implicated in criminal activities for sharing videos containing personal information of minors, have surprisingly received little attention. Insights from Reddit posts have brought to light the site's reputation for unlawfully distributing facial and nude photos, as well as personal details like addresses and names. This underscores the crucial need for direct permission from the operator to join. Notably,The exposure of this information didn't stem from formal reports but rather surfaced through disclosures on Reddit, where a former USFK member revealed the situation. The Kakao official cafe gained public attention for the first time due to its association with the former President Moon Jae-in's Democratic Party, which had close ties to the police chief who overlooked the Burning Sun scandal. Consequently, Korean media outlets like '뉴데일리' refrained from reporting on it, showing deference to the party's influence. However, it wasn't until the recent revelation of the site's criminal activities by the US military personnel that it was first brought to light. If you look at the on the site and you can show what information is being shared, they secretly filmed a minor wearing a school uniform and commented on it, saying, "he has a pretty genitals," "The face and nude photos are cute who is 17 so perfect as a sexual plaything." This crime is pubilcized for the first time in medias and newspapers because United States Forces were also recently targeted. ## Overview of the Training Recruit Torture and Murder Incident A significant point of focus in this incident is South Korea's policy of promoting civilian women to officers in the military through a quota system. This female officer, who had never seen sunlight and had extremely fair skin, imposed additional heavy burdens on the recruit and failed to take appropriate medical measures even as his health deteriorated severely. This incident tragically involves the death of a recruit due to torture during military training. ### Incident Process 1. **Recruit A Enlistment**: - Recruit A enlisted in the military. - Recruit A had been in the military for only 9 days. 2. **Excessive Burden and Torture**: - Despite already carrying a heavy military pack weighing approximately 40kg, Officer B forced Recruit A to carry an even heavier load. - As a result, Recruit A's health deteriorated significantly, and despite requests for help from fellow recruits, Officer B ignored them. 3. **Tragic Outcome**: - Due to the excessive burden and torture, Recruit A eventually died. - Subsequently, Officer B attempted to cover up the incident, but it was exposed due to efforts from medical institutions and military officials. ### Controversial Elements 1. **Gender Disparity in Punishment**: - Many people criticize the fact that Officer B, as the perpetrator, received not even an arrest or investigation but instead a month-long vacation supposedly for mental stability, solely because she is a woman. However, South Korean women in their 20s and 30s tend to distort this as a "Chosun Dynasty exile measure" and implicitly support the perpetrator due to her gender. - Politicians are wary of the response from young female voters and have thus faced criticism for not handling the incident appropriately. Given the significant political influence of women in South Korean society, it is important for women to bravely report such incidents to the media. However, currently, very few Korean women have come forward with this incident to the press. Seoul National University's Happiness Research Center and Kakao Geachi jointly conducted and published the "ABOUT H: South Korea Happiness Report 2019" (21st Century Books) on the 9th. Professor Choi In-cheol and the research team from Seoul National University's Happiness Research Center also held a press conference at Gwanghwamun Vertex Korea on the same day. The survey targeted 1.05 million people over the past year, accumulating a total of 2.27 million records due to the possibility of duplicate responses. The research team and publishers claimed it to be the world's first and largest "national happiness research project." According to the survey findings, women in their 20s and 30s exhibited the highest levels of materialism, the lowest gratitude index (degree of felt gratitude), and the highest prevalence of neurosis (emotional anxiety). They also showed a high tendency to compare themselves with others. Professor Choi stated, "The answer to gender differences lies in neurosis. Women in their 20s and 30s showed the highest tendency towards neurosis," adding, "Women in their 20s and 30s also had the lowest levels of gratitude. Therefore, they exhibit a heightened sense of victimization, mistrust towards others, and a significantly increased likelihood of explosive and aggressive behavior even with minor stressors

[@juanchoresultay2704]

They may economically progressed but the chauvinist values still same 🙄 Like bro its already 21st century and their still this?! PLEASE 😫

[@fonzymae]

@@juanchoresultay2704 it’s the Confucius beliefs that still put them in a box. I don’t envy their rich country, their people are depressed and they stopped making babies.

[@akma3235]

Oh please , Japan was much more advanced treating their women and other women from other countries as sex slaves.

[@battsetsegb7636]

Korean society needs some soul searching to do. So much technology and economic development but so lost in cherishing money, fame, external appearance.

[@hr3193]

It is shocking that in Korea the word feminist is used as an insult. I send my support to all feminists in Korea.

[@곽두팔-g8z]

⁠@@ddgrey9675뭔 개소리ㅋㅋ most of men think feminist is bullshit even women hair is short

[@긩뀨]

@@ddgrey9675 아닌데요..레디컬페미니스트가 아니여도 탄압 당합니다..

[@dibbidubba]

@@ddgrey9675when yall see women fighting for something y’all don’t understand or will never go trough it will be called “radical” feminism lol

[@긩뀨]

@@ddgrey9675 한국남자들은 ‘페미’라는 말자체를 욕으로 사용하잖아요

[@garlic98]

@@ddgrey9675 that's a total lie lol as soon as Korean men hear the word "feminist," they treat them like lunatics, criminals lol.

[@시고르자브종1217]

I am a woman in my twenties from Korea, and I logged in with a secondary account to write this comment. This is because I am a feminist and have been hiding it. If it becomes known that I wrote this comment, I risk being fired from my job. Furthermore, I could even receive death threats. Watching this video and seeing countless comments from women around the world, I could not help but join in. Please help spread the reality of Korea. We needed an outlet like this. For several years, I have been consistently reporting to foreign media. Korea currently shows no signs of change and is a society that feels like hell. The birth rate and suicide rate in Korea reflect this.

[@시고르자브종1217]

* The translation might be inaccurate

[@queenofpents3442]

Dont worry. You are fine. Your identity will not be exposed. No one in these comments want to ruin someone's life we just want the lives of women to matter to S. Korean society! We want justice even though it won't happen. A lot of these comments are from foreigners who believe in equality. Good for you to join us.

[@imaneb4938]

That's horrible. I didn't know Korea was such a bad place for women. They are acting like it's a crime to be a woman and want to be treated with respect. I'm sorry you have to go through this. I'm sending you courage and support from Europe!

[@amber588]

thank you so much for sharing. I never knew that this was the culture of Korea? never would of thought it. sounds horrible. what do you think would bring around change? it sounds like such a deeply ingrained problem. I hope you manage to see some equality in your life-time. :(

[@soniafiochi]

Que situação horrível vocês mulheres vivem nesse País espero que você fique bem. ❤️‍🩹 ❤🇧🇷

[@clarkentm]

"if Seungri's kakaotalk from 3 years ago are crimes then aren't all Korean men criminals" THIS QUOTE IS EXTREMELY ALARMING.

[@saheefariaz]

What exactly does it mean?

[@Ing_ing_22]

@@saheefariazIf Seungri is punished for what he said on KakaoTalk, it means that all men in Korea are guilty. In other words, it is a sentence that expresses that all men in Korea say and do that kind of things.

[@saheefariaz]

@@Ing_ing_22 oh. Thats why it doesnt seem like a big deal to these pathetic beings.

[@saheefariaz]

@@Ing_ing_22wow What a great way to say that "we are all sexist a**holes" and objectifying women is a norm. They should be embarrased and guilty to say such things instead of saying it so proudly.

[@cindynjoh2896]

@@Ing_ing_22 I will add that they things it’s actually a normal thing to do because all the man in Korea do that so why are we blame for it

[@sittstgbb4386]

Jung 6yrs Choi 2years Suengri 18months Police no charges?? No Justice has been given!!🤬

[@Snshwwh]

BBC는 "MBC, KBS, SBS는 반페미니스트"라고 하지만 MBC, KBS, SBS는 페미니스트입니다. BBC는 내셔널 지오그래픽이 아닙니다. BBC는 공식 뉴스입니다. KBS는 다큐멘터리의 허위 표현으로 BBC를 상대로 소송을 제기했습니다. 다큐멘터리가 KBS에 대한 허위 사실을 담고 명예훼손을 일으켰다는 의혹이 제기되었습니다. 소송 후 BBC는 부정확한 내용에 대해 사과하고 오류를 수정하기로 했습니다. 반페미니스트 윤석열이 3개 방송사에 콘텐츠 검열을 지시했다는 주장은 BBC의 최근 실수만큼이나 믿기 어렵습니다. 사실 MBC와 SBS는 공영방송 콘텐츠를 실시간으로 검열하며 '유모차'(유모차)를 '베이비카'(어린이용 자동차)로, '출산율'(출산율)을 '출산율'(출산율)로 바꾸고 있습니다. 저는 그것을 사용하고 있습니다. 그들은 여성 우월주의 이념에 맞지 않기 때문에 유모차와 출산율이라는 단어를 검열했습니다.It has been proven by a Korean official channel('PD Notebook') that the weight of that drum was about 42kg to 50kg. The perpetrator of the abuse and manslaughter was engaged in a current trend in Korea. As a result, the abuser restrained the victim, who was frothing at the mouth and unconscious, and did not receive emergency care for 15 minutes, missing the critical golden time. In Korea, it is currently popular among women in their 20s and 30s to indulge in delusions and hatred, and there are illegal forums with around a million members from this demographic (such as Yeoseongsidae, Jjukppang Cafe) spreading false propaganda. If you are not familiar with Korean, be cautious of false propaganda that lacks solid evidence. My source is scientifically proven by 'PD Notebook'. Seoul National University's Happiness Research Center and Kakao Geachi jointly conducted and published the "ABOUT H: South Korea Happiness Report 2019" (21st Century Books) on the 9th. Professor Choi In-cheol and the research team from Seoul National University's Happiness Research Center also held a press conference at Gwanghwamun Vertex Korea on the same day. The survey targeted 1.05 million people over the past year, accumulating a total of 2.27 million records due to the possibility of duplicate responses. The research team and publishers claimed it to be the world's first and largest "national happiness research project." According to the survey findings, women in their 20s and 30s exhibited the highest levels of materialism, the lowest gratitude index (degree of felt gratitude), and the highest prevalence of neurosis (emotional anxiety). They also showed a high tendency to compare themselves with others. Professor Choi stated, "The answer to gender differences lies in neurosis. Women in their 20s and 30s showed the highest tendency towards neurosis," adding, "Women in their 20s and 30s also had the lowest levels of gratitude. Therefore, they exhibit a heightened sense of victimization, mistrust towards others, and a significantly increased likelihood of explosive and aggressive behavior even with minor stress

[@Sunny_TheRealMe]

these sentences to the criminals were just 'a show' of the Korean justice system I guess

[@summerhood1208]

2 miscarriages and their country is still questioning the low fertility rate when the government can't take care women in their country

[@__yussra]

exactly

[@孝欽顯皇后葉赫那拉氏]

Actually, those issues are common among the three states in East Asia.

[@isabelarozario6937]

Hara had nothing to gain by helping the reporter. She only did this because she enpathized with the victims. South Korean netizens didn't deserve her. She is a true hero in this case along with the reporters. Rest easy, Hara.

[@jamoh7832]

May she rest in paradise 🖤🖤💕

[@skyward7903]

She was a selfless hero. That angel is not with us right now while these devils walk the earth freely makes me sick!

[@mysteriotherme]

It makes me tear up thinking that she's not alive anymore to know this.

[@aparnarajesh]

The way they cyberbullying her also sulli, Choi Jin Shil, jonghyun also others and seungri's former bandmates top and gdragon made mistakes in the past but they got bashed while seungri was freed as victims are suffering

[@isabelarozario6937]

​@@aparnarajesh Exactly it's sickening to see how they bully celebs who have never done anything nearly as bad as seungri

[@moonandstars2270]

The fact that Seungri is planning to open another club shows that he learned nothing from those 18 months , pure evil.

[@__yussra]

probably because it’s only 18 months. He thinks he got away because he’s above the law and he will continue with his ways until this is properly sorted.

[@Pauline-nm6cu]

That man is the devil…

[@supernovalass]

I googled about it after reading your comment. It's unbelievable that this monster held a fan meeting. In today's world of the internet, no one has the excuse that they didn't know about him and hence went there. There are idiots who think feminism is wrong but will cheer for and support these pests. I can't imagine what the victims feel when they see him free and enjoying his life once again.

[@BethChen-d6y]

What a joke!! There is no Justice in South Korea.

[@somyachauhan499]

@@supernovalass wth i knew about the club opening and hosting in malaysia but fan meeting??????

[@cheskagrifaldo8188]

Who's back here after the "taeil case"

[@word-w4c]

me

[@marlioliveira5519]

Me.

[@MarketaHornikova]

Me

[@hneysip7845]

Wrong case you guys

[@swagatikasahoo1531]

Then did Sulli and Go-Hara committed suicide bcoz of the burning sun case??

[@Gu___nyang]

As a Korean, I hope this documentary will become more famous so that criminals can't even carry their faces in shame

[@marielb.3162]

I'm from the Dorchester Republic,small island of the Caribbean where Kpop and kdramas are love for so many people people,but no one knows the dark side of kpop.

[@ting-ting7001]

I found out about this from a cashier working in a bookstore. He told me suddenly his news feed is full of Burning Sun.

[@aditikule2482]

I wish, your hope be fulfilled. I've shared it with my frnds, who are follower of k-pop

[@RenaA-mu2ki]

840,000 Korean women have organized a community site called Women's Age to create sexual harassment and sexual exploitation against U.S. military men and young Korean men to share illegal videos with each other. However, they are not being punished. The BBC is hoping to take up the issue and 840,000 sex offenders will be severely punished. 84만 명의 한국 여성들이 미군 남성들과 한국 청년 남성들을 대상으로 성희롱과 성 착취를 만들어 'Women's Age (여성시대)'라는 커뮤니티 사이트를 조직하여 서로 불법 동영상을 공유하고 있다. 그러나 그들은 처벌을 받지 않고 있다. BBC가 그 문제를 다루기를 희망하고 있고 84만 명의 성범죄자들이 엄벌에 처해졌으면 한다.

[@sherrypeng-ev6vz]

the present situation is the criminals are still active -like bigbang Seungri

[@karaidoido]

Throughout her life, Goo Hara was abandoned by her mother when she was a kid, shamed by men and even haters who were mostly women. She tried to save women she didn't even know, but still got hated. I wish you live happily in heaven now, my miracle Hara.

[@tau709]

RIP Hara

[@daves-w6j]

As a Korean woman, I hate this country's legal system. 80% of Korean women have experienced domestic violence. Domestic violence is legal in South Korea. As a result, the number of Korean women committing suicide is increasing. I want people all over the world to know this fact 😢

[@serenityk9907]

@@daves-w6jI am so sorry to hear this. I had no idea 😢

[@user-jy3ux5iy5f]

BBC propaganda

[@r1r1_1.]

​@@user-jy3ux5iy5f take this fųcka$$ ragebait somewhere else

[@shreeverma90]

i have absolute respect for BBC for releasing this at the right time where kpop fans believe that their idols are gods and couldn't do anything unimaginable to the human kind.

[@shreeverma90]

@WhwgwgAgagwqg I'm sorry about this news but why did u reply it to me 😭😭

[@pruitv0]

respect for a company making up this clip full of lies to protect certain criminals who used seungri as a scapegoat and could get away thanks to haters like you.

[@Ms.keerti]

This is true...kpop has much more dark secret 🙄

[@pruitv0]

@@Ms.keerti it doesnt its just jelly inetz like you who only use this genres popularity for cllout while not even liking it at all.

[@paumons3230]

@@Ms.keerti I think It's in all music, but I confirmed, Kpop sometimes try harder to hide their crimes. Sincerely, I hope their fans don't support never again those scumbags, and as Kpop fans I recommend never treat them like gods, because they are humans, and they show us just what they want and not who they really are.

[@love-lovely0601]

한국인으로서 부끄럽지만 이렇게 파헤쳐준 BBC 에 고맙다. 한국 언론은 이미 그 기능을 상실한거 같음

[@novifitrianti1975]

To the one who said "these idols deserve second chance", now asked the victims if they still had second chance to have normal lives again.

[@Ana-jb8du]

​@@speakupyt4900Just vomiting the same copy paste under each comment, I see. Pathetic

[@tenyharyati9355]

@@speakupyt4900 are you blind or deaf?

[@RogueCassette]

@@speakupyt4900 It's definitely not an isolated YG problem - coming from an old YG Stan since 2010. Also, OP is focusing on how the victims will never be as they were before while the perpetrators are living life as they want to (with blind support from fans).

[@TaylorLeeKnow]

@@speakupyt4900Get out

[@lopo889]

Thankfully you're not one of them who said that 😅, bless your brain still function normally

[@trashychild1254]

I don’t know why they blur the other guys faces out just cause they re not famous doesn’t mean they didn’t take part

[@courtneyreed2751]

This part!! They knew what was going on and probably even were involved in those activities but because they not famous who cares!? If anything I think that makes them more dangerous

[@lyllaby]

@@courtneyreed2751 foreal and then the one man in the end saying theyre still using drugs to abuse in his club like currently????? excuse me are we hearing this

[@choibilzz242]

It’s Korean law to protect normal civilians faces. Privacy laws as are very important and reinforced in Korea 😭😭 even for criminals (murderers, rapists and etc. )😭😭 which is disgusting imo

[@ddeonnu3453]

​@@choibilzz242 then why didn't they cover her child's face 😭 it is so scary because they know her face and she might be also a target

[@choibilzz242]

@@ddeonnu3453 probably because their guardians consented, cuz if not, lawsuits bro and Korea is heavy with those lawsuits

[@wanjirugikandi]

Apparently in s.korea,if you're caught smoking weed you will face a harsher sentence than a rapist 🤡

[@blinkningbetterthanyourfav2107]

Fr I hate korea law

[@abuhammer7450]

Because grape is common in Korea but smoking weed isn't

[@katherinstaci]

i hate their laws

[@e0173]

@@blinkningbetterthanyourfav2107 me too. In Korea, rape has so many women who have been sexually harassed, harassed, forced to break into, concealed, and sexually committed crimes that the price of rape is three years.

[@Remarkable269]

Ikr like they need to make petitions to change the punishments for sexual crimes

[@danip2476]

Is anyone else thinking how many other Kpop idols are like this behind the scenes? So scary

[@Queenofskill]

Exactly, it’s horrifying. There’s lots of people after the Taeil thing saying we should never idolize idols like they’re saints. so I hope people from now on know to not blindly follow whoever, just like how Seungri’s fans blindly supported him.

[@danip2476]

@@Queenofskill it’s so crazy I said this right before the news of Taeil 😭

[@user-dr3yl9ov3d]

Korean men are mocking this. Please make it more public

[@geekyourlikeslulu]

yes sk men are mocking the victims, not surprised

[@dohmygoodness]

They really think this is about men vs women. really really fucked up.

[@user-jy3ux5iy5f]

Korean men are much kinder than men from European countries.🖕🏻

[@mariafernandafourniervss]

Then people ask why Korean women want to relate, marry, and have children less and less with Korean men.

[@Unknown-lq8qw]

Where are they mocking? stop generalizing

[@Felizneverbad]

I'm a high school girl in Korea. First of all, I'm truly,sincerely grateful that bbc brought this up because If I raise questions about these kinds of issues at school, I'm branded a thumping piggy feminist, an "emotional disorder." I shed tears of unknown reason when I saw comments from foreigners who said they would listen to this and stand in solidarity. Thank you very much. When this incident broke out, Korea was quiet. When Room N broke out (a case in which 260,000 Korean men watched a video clip in which a caterpillar was placed on a video device sexually assaulting elementary, middle, and high school and adult women my age), Korean men exaggerated the incident, saying that the women in the video also 'enjoyed' it. The mastermind of this nightmare was sentenced to 40 years in prison, and the person who disclosed their personal information about the criminals in anger was sentenced to two years in prison. Three years later, just yesterday, a group of male students from Seoul National University, the nation's most prestigious university, posted illegal compounds of 60 women from their alumni and enjoyed watching them in more than 200 chat rooms. Another man from a prestigious medical school killed his girlfriend, who told him to break up at the same school. Even though women are being sexually assaulted and killed every day in this land, the media keeps silent about the demonstration of a female nursery teacher who has no motherhood, and Korean men treat me as if it is the only big deal. It is a sense of victimization. Women also enjoy watching children's play, but they cover up the case, saying, "Isn't it the female version of Room N?" I cannot comment on these issues at school. That is why I desperately need your attention and solidarity. please Don't believe what they say in K-drama. I hope women take care of yourself and stay safe.

[@brishanna5927]

Sending love and support ❤

[@user-xl1tf2ej1x]

No u r a chinese cause u kept saying n번방 case. When n번방 case brokeout whole nation criticize them Don't say lies

[@zoomyplayer1932]

I live in Korea and can see the way women are treated here. I agree with everything you said. Sending love.

[@user-xl1tf2ej1x]

Don't lie. When burningsun first came out all of korean really criticise about this. Just care about your country

[@curr.y9895]

Sending love and support, thank you for speaking up

[@benicebecool5358]

I was surprised to see BBC release it now. But after connecting all the events, this is perfect timing. Jung was released from prison and mentioned that he misses his fame of being a singer. SeungRi bought expensive mansion in HongKong and planning to open a night club. They are acting like nothing happened. This documentary is a reminder that they are not human and their sentence was nothing.

[@ting-ting7001]

Money Seungri made after running his trafficking scheme from Burning Sun…

[@Freepalestine2024_-.6]

the fact that they can just go back like nothing happened while the victims have to live with the burden is disgusting .

[@mamelod3022]

Him planning to open a night club makes me very nervous, cuz everything is in his hands and he can easily hide anything he wants in there.

[@ngndnd]

@@mamelod3022it makes me mad af. That he can just go back to living the same life just because he is rich. If he had learned his lesson he would live a quiet life instead but now he knows that the law will favor him instead since he is rich

[@NadiaBlythe-h7w]

when ppl comment the issues like this one, they always tend to turn on the victims rather than the criminals.What a shame!!!

[@YaaDede-kz4qj]

Hara’s brother’s words brought tears to my eyes. Rest In Peace Heroine. The rest of us will stay strong and deal with those devils brutally. 😢❤

[@NONPOINT420]

I wish Goo Hara really understood how brave and strong she was.

[@marisahmusa5753]

What happen to her😢

[@belaytriks]

​@@marisahmusa5753 She took her own life. 💔

[@shiirashinkai1]

i just wish i can bring her back to life, and praise her very well

[@laetitiasherrypurnama5593]

😢😢😢😢

[@IvonAdarna-zo2vn]

I hope those who bashed him then can't sleep. It's impossible they can't watch it

[@louisaemordi1234]

Mind you these men still have fans defending them on twitter. How embarrassing.

[@banzziinga]

they still do which is crazy to me, you go under bb's mvs and you'll be shocked to see fans still idolizing these absolute piece of disgrace. im here mentally struck everytime I see a new video talking about burning scandal but I wonder how blind these fans gotta be to still support them and their filthy acts.

[@ujung-ahujung-hae7503]

thats crazy how people still defend seungri im disgusted

[@horanghae1675]

and they have their own narrative that seungri just got involved not knowing that he's one of the boss.

[@shinobu37]

Twitter is not a place a smart and sane person will dwell in.

[@benjaminherbl3942]

@@banzziinga When you say "them" are you refering to Bigbang or Seungri. Bigbang should be kept out of this completely. They warned him several times that the people he hung out with seemed off to them.

[@janiabarrioscervante8285]

I don't understand why they keep calling it prostitution. Most of the victims were blackmailed into it or just plainly unconscious. Name it how it is they were human traffickers and exploiters.

[@andreachung8951]

That's what I thought to myself. If you're a prostitute you still give consent. These girls were drugged and raped.

[@OrdinaryApprentice99]

Because everything in the world is about contacts, power and money. If you have enough of these 3 key factors, it won't matter WHAT you do. You will get reduced sentences, reduced convictions and the worst of them all, the media making the general public slowly forget about those horrific incidents to get those artists back making money for the country again. As of today, i think only America has been able to give serious sentences to many many fucked up people. And i mean Life sentences, not these funny 1-6 years for insanely evil acts.

[@sw98052]

The prostitution that was mentioned in the video was specifically addressing Seungri's case. Where he brings a dozen of Korean Women to his "investment parties". Those girls were aware of their "role", hence were called prostitutes. Now, do we know for sure if they were actually there fully aware they'll be "used" for prostitution? Ofc not. But so far, there's no evidence that they were forced to be there, blackmailed, etc. The molka cases, Jung and Choi, those are the "apes" and blackmailed one. So it's two different scenarios.

[@heybros2765]

​@@sw98052why would they resort to knocking them unconscious if they were aware of their "role" then?

[@sw98052]

@@heybros2765 .... Did you watch the video properly? The prostitution part was a BRIEF part of the video. The Palawan Island one. There's no mention about them being knocked unconsciously on that part. The unconscious women part was during the Burning Sun part for VIP customers and molka by Choi and Jung.

[@clairvoyant1290]

Goo Hara was so strong and so brave to take a stand and she will always be missed and not forgotten.

[@doyongjae_art6171]

If you’re still a fan of Seungri and Jung, you should be ashamed.

[@genshoryukenpou]

Except you're big bang fans and still support him, even he resign from big bang

[@carolynswen2957]

Especially if you are a female fan who’s still supporting them

[@holoinfinity4691]

100%

[@foster26a]

@@genshoryukenpouwtf there is no exception, he deserves to only rot in jail

[@starlight14673]

@@genshoryukenpou true he did tarnish the name of big bang as a foreign watcher i came to know about bb from this case

[@mrecury]

Korean men having a laugh with this documentary is exactly why Korean woman are refusing to have a relationship with them.

[@woOkieKG]

ur just a troll that is using this documentary to simply get your personal jealousy and hate out against Korean men. Just because they can get the Korean girls you are obsessed about more easily while you are getting rejected by the one korean girl near you, doesn't make it okay for you to use this important documentary to simply make dumb statements like this. Korean women are not refusing to have a relationship with Korean men... lmfao. I think all women don't want to have a relationship with any rapist and abusive man. Go read a book lil bro

[@impossiblww]

아줌마 또 거짓말치네 어휴 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@cuffmeincorporated]

@@impossiblww 당신은 사랑받은 적이 없습니다

[@nguyenquynhanh2807]

@@impossiblwwglass boy afraid to be broken by women boo hooo 🥱

[@MegaLuckyLeafy]

@@impossiblwwyou’re a disgusting devil

[@jh8542]

Korean people want this case to be world-widely known. Please make sure the people related and found guilty never get hired anywhere in this earth.

[@Sonnenanbeterin1991]

Sungri has a TV Show know😢

[@wenkolako]

@@Sonnenanbeterin1991WHAT

[@elinglee8878]

I too was so shocked to learn Seungri is still living his best lavish lifes and still there are girls throwing themselves to him. 👎

[@aminnie00]

불행하게도... 우리 법은 너무 관대해요.

[@sheilawangeci4485]

Wtf

[@ninthefrog3911]

These criminals were released recently and the general public needs to be reminded of what they did to innocent women. Thank you for bringing awareness to this case again!

[@bca5729]

I am a South Korean woman. I am so grateful to the BBC for reporting in detail on incidents of gang rape, mass violence (torture, including the extraction of women's teeth), illegal filming and police cover-ups committed by Korean men in South Korea over the years. Korean men secretly drugged women and then tortured them like Nazis. Before the BBC report, Korean women who had been sexually assaulted were afraid to report it because Korean men threatened to distribute videos of them being gang-raped. Despite the threats, brave victim Goo Hara tried to expose the crime, but was eventually murdered by a Korean man. A Korean man was captured on CCTV breaking into Goo Hara's house just before her death, but the Korean men concluded her death was a suicide. Even after the BBC report, police have not yet investigated the culprit. Another sexual assault victim also mustered up the courage to report it to the police, but Korean men accused her of making false accusations even though they knew she had been brutally sexually assaulted. On the other hand, the Korean man who committed the crime and the Korean male police officer who covered up the incident were either found not guilty or sentenced to only six months to 5 year in prison. Most foreigners seem to think that Korean male idols receive low punishment because they have a lot of assets. That's not true In Miryang, South Korea, dozens of Korean male high school students gang-raped a female high school student and distributed the video, but all were found not guilty. Most of the parents of those high school students were ordinary or poor people.

[@cuteiiu]

The fact that Seungri sentenced 18 months is crazy he deserves life time sentence

[@Sey-rr3dy]

The information is incorrect. The man whose last name is Lee is not Seungri, but lee jong-hyun, a member of CN BLUE. Lee jong Hyun apologized and enlisted in the army to escape criticism. So why did you guys write Seungri's name? Burning sun scandal and chat molka are completely different cases!!! Burning Sun: The abuser is Kim Sang Kyo. Chat Molka: Jung, Choi, Hoe, Kim ARE GUILTY After months of investigation the police make an official statement that there is no evidence of rape or drugs in BS. Kim Sangkyo wanted to ruin the owners (using the name of a well known idol, i.e. Seungri's name) to escape the 4 rape charges against him. The Burning Sun case was terminated. Molka case: After investigations, reporters admitted that they had manipulated some of JJY's chats by putting some of the private chats into group. Seungri was charged with various things but was never charged with filming/distributing molka, sexual assault, procuring!!!

[@Sey-rr3dy]

The information is incorrect. The man whose last name is Lee is not Seungri, but lee jong-hyun, a member of CN BLUE. Lee jong Hyun apologized and enlisted in the army to escape criticism. So why did you guys write Seungri's name? Burning sun scandal and chat molka are completely different cases!!! Burning Sun: The abuser is Kim Sang Kyo. Chat Molka: Jung, Choi, Hoe, Kim ARE GUILTY After months of investigation the police make an official statement that there is no evidence of rape or drugs in BS. Kim Sangkyo wanted to ruin the owners (using the name of a well known idol, i.e. Seungri's name) to escape the 4 rape charges against him. The Burning Sun case was terminated. Molka case: After investigations, reporters admitted that they had manipulated some of JJY's chats by putting some of the private chats into group. Seungri was charged with various things but was never charged with filming/distributing molka, sexual assault, procuring.!!!!

[@toffymacaroonz]

Yes and it's even worse that he is also hired to sing at various high-class events in Thailand.

[@lonsolchang7694]

The guy is hustling and bustling in asia pacific as of this moment...

[@rftg1793]

Right?!

[@raic3283]

The female journalist being bullied and miscarrying is so damn sad.

[@Carol-ws1fb]

It's horrible, she wanted to tell the truth and people attacked her for it and she lost so much. :(( She is so strong and admirable for not giving up and fight!

[@jamaeldarainon]

those fans are sick, because of the stress that caused the reporter to miscarriage twice is sad and misserables

[@ting-ting7001]

His damn label protected him back in 2015. I remember in real Time when the scandal dropped. I didn’t know she was bullied. Course news outlets didn’t reveal that!

[@merryhlue]

I’m so glad bbc released this. Kpop stans were defending this man for the longest time and blaming the victims instead.

[@viktorcheng2061]

Korea has a problem with celebrity worship syndrome

[@shineecrystal]

some kpop fans are so idiotic....

[@altheadelavictoria1341]

ive seen people do EVERYTHING to defend these filthy man. they even trash people who talk about this scandal saying that seungri is innocent and it was all a lie made by haters. like, wtf? what hurts is the fans who defend him are usually FEMALE.

[@JamaicaDiamond24]

IKR. but to be fair it was NEVER released to us that he was found guilty on anything. I just found out what he was actually convicted of a few months ago. His trial was private b/c he ran to the military and went through their court system. Also his charges was EXPUNGED from his record b/c he use some loophole that if you only do x amount of days in jails, the charges wont be on your record! So he actually DON'T have to register as a s Offender b/c its NO longer on his record. tell me thats not crazy.

[@janinejay3423]

Seungri still has fans defending him. Brain dead

[@jayla1151]

i was drugged in a gangnam club two years by the staff. thankfully i was with my boyfriend and his friend who took me home safely, but i’ll never forget the feeling. i had one single cocktail and was on the verge of passing out on the street

[@Snshwwh]

Don't ask laws online community. Ask lawyers about Korea law. -A 20-year-old man who completed his military service in Korea returned from military service 10 days ago. - .2024.6. 27. (화성 동탄 화장실 사건)In Dongtan, Hwaseong, a Korean woman in her 30s reported to the police that a man touched her breasts and genitals, and the woman kicked the man's genitals and ran away. - Currently, there is only the woman's claim and the man's counterargument, with no substantive evidence. - The man was threatened by the police to stay quiet, and the man who had just been discharged from the military is scheduled to be imprisoned under the principle of presumption of guilt without any evidence. In this way, the Hwaseong Tongtan Police Station in Korea has achieved the highest rate of arrest of sex offenders. This is Korean law. Korean women in their 20s and 30s have made a lot of money through false accusations, and this is the popular culture of Koreans in their 20s and 30s. In a Korean women-only community, many know-hows are being shared on how to report men for false accusations and receive settlement money More than 80% of Korean women who go to nightclubs like burning sun do so with the intention of having a one-night stand. Just ask them directly. These so-called victims have one-night stands and receive millions of dollars. In our country, sex workers receive tens of thousands of dollars in free government support. Discrimination is due to ignorance, so educate yourself. BBC girls get 1000,000$ from bigbang. Actor Lee Sun-kyun was falsely accused of sexual assault by self-proclaimed radical feminists from the Daum Kakao Cafe (Yeoseongsidae), which has 840,000 members. After succumbing to their threats and extortion, paying them hundreds of thousands of dollars, he tragically committed suicide. Evidence of blackmail and false accusations was presented to the police, leading to the arrest and subsequent confession of the perpetrators. They were sentenced to one year in prison. This story is currently being covered by Korean media outlets. Many K-pop fans, predominantly women including radical feminists, also contributed to the tragic deaths of Shirley and Goo Hara with their hurtful comments. Shirley was targeted for her appeal to male audiences, leading to relentless online harassment and her untimely death. Goo Hara's suicide was likely influenced by this negativity and the Werther effect. These individuals frequently gather on Daum's official community, Yeo Seong Si Dae, which is known for its 840,000 extremist members. Within this closed community, Shirley was unjustly demonized and became the target of a relentless witch hunt. Under the Women's Protection Act in Korea, men often bear the burden of proving their innocence in sexual assault cases, leading to convictions based solely on accusations. A notable example is the case involving Yeongsu Oh, an actor from the "Squid Game" series, where the only evidence was the accuser’s diary. This legal bias was also evident in Lee Sun-kyun’s case, where false accusations led to devastating consequences. Statistics suggest that over 80% of Korean women go to nightclubs with the intention of having a one-night stand. However, the court often renders guilty verdicts based on the presumption of guilt in sexual assault cases while being more lenient in cases of prostitution and drug crimes. Despite Korea's minimum sentence of 10 years for rape, some argue that the penalties are still too lenient. Korea refers to rape as "robbery rape" and follows the principle of presumption of guilt. The 840,000 members of Kakao's women-only Daum official cafe, Yeoseongsidae, who have been implicated in criminal activities for sharing videos containing personal information of minors, have surprisingly received little attention. Insights from Reddit posts have brought to light the site's reputation for unlawfully distributing facial and nude photos, as well as personal details like addresses and names. This underscores the crucial need for direct permission from the operator to join. Notably,The exposure of this information didn't stem from formal reports but rather surfaced through disclosures on Reddit, where a former USFK member revealed the situation. The Kakao official cafe gained public attention for the first time due to its association with the former President Moon Jae-in's Democratic Party, which had close ties to the police chief who overlooked the Burning Sun scandal. Consequently, Korean media outlets like '뉴데일리' refrained from reporting on it, showing deference to the party's influence. However, it wasn't until the recent revelation of the site's criminal activities by the US military personnel that it was first brought to light. If you look at the on the site and you can show what information is being shared, they secretly filmed a minor wearing a school uniform and commented on it, saying, "he has a pretty genitals," "The face and nude photos are cute who is 17 so perfect as a sexual plaything." This crime is pubilcized for the first time in medias and newspapers because United States Forces were also recently targeted. ## Overview of the Training Recruit Torture and Murder Incident A significant point of focus in this incident is South Korea's policy of promoting civilian women to officers in the military through a quota system. This female officer, who had never seen sunlight and had extremely fair skin, imposed additional heavy burdens on the recruit and failed to take appropriate medical measures even as his health deteriorated severely. This incident tragically involves the death of a recruit due to torture during military training. ### Incident Process 1. **Recruit A Enlistment**: - Recruit A enlisted in the military. - Recruit A had been in the military for only 9 days. 2. **Excessive Burden and Torture**: - Despite already carrying a heavy military pack weighing approximately 40kg, Officer B forced Recruit A to carry an even heavier load. - As a result, Recruit A's health deteriorated significantly, and despite requests for help from fellow recruits, Officer B ignored them. 3. **Tragic Outcome**: - Due to the excessive burden and torture, Recruit A eventually died. - Subsequently, Officer B attempted to cover up the incident, but it was exposed due to efforts from medical institutions and military officials. ### Controversial Elements 1. **Gender Disparity in Punishment**: - Many people criticize the fact that Officer B, as the perpetrator, received not even an arrest or investigation but instead a month-long vacation supposedly for mental stability, solely because she is a woman. However, South Korean women in their 20s and 30s tend to distort this as a "Chosun Dynasty exile measure" and implicitly support the perpetrator due to her gender. - Politicians are wary of the response from young female voters and have thus faced criticism for not handling the incident appropriately. Given the significant political influence of women in South Korean society, it is important for women to bravely report such incidents to the media. However, currently, very few Korean women have come forward with this incident to the press. Seoul National University's Happiness Research Center and Kakao Geachi jointly conducted and published the "ABOUT H: South Korea Happiness Report 2019" (21st Century Books) on the 9th. Professor Choi In-cheol and the research team from Seoul National University's Happiness Research Center also held a press conference at Gwanghwamun Vertex Korea on the same day. The survey targeted 1.05 million people over the past year, accumulating a total of 2.27 million records due to the possibility of duplicate responses. The research team and publishers claimed it to be the world's first and largest "national happiness research project." According to the survey findings, women in their 20s and 30s exhibited the highest levels of materialism, the lowest gratitude index (degree of felt gratitude), and the highest prevalence of neurosis (emotional anxiety). They also showed a high tendency to compare themselves with others. Professor Choi stated, "The answer to gender differences lies in neurosis. Women in their 20s and 30s showed the highest tendency towards neurosis," adding, "Women in their 20s and 30s also had the lowest levels of gratitude. Therefore, they exhibit a heightened sense of victimization, mistrust towards others, and a significantly increased likelihood of explosive and aggressive behavior even with minor stressors.,

[@pruitv4]

typical haters who have to make up lies just to get some sympathy for some clout that you dont get outside.

[@702sakura]

​@@pruitv4 you're either sick, blind or delulu.

[@mayl4152]

@@pruitv4you do know getting drugged in clubs isn’t a rare occurrence even in other countries right? We know someone like you living in their mum’s basement wouldn’t understand this

[@christab355]

​@@pruitv4wtf??

[@malmal6251]

Notice how even the reporters are women! Men did nothing at all

[@elmexicanojoker1247]

notice how all the cops were men and were helping them out? ur slow

[@Bianca-yo5bw]

@@elmexicanojoker1247 .... only after it became an issue you mean?....

[@johaynajk171]

@@elmexicanojoker1247weren’t the cops helping by turning a blind on all the crimes for years tho

[@nishat_MoaSai]

@@elmexicanojoker1247 after the reports have been made ofcourse.

[@JADEMOND]

Hay hombres que declararon y también está el hombre abogado que ayudó a las víctimas sin cobrar por sus servicios. Entiendo que estés furiosa por lo que pasó, pero no puedes tachar a todos los hombres de esa manera.

[@Xogus_2v]

As a Korean woman, just reading all these comments warms up my heart. Most feminist voices in Korea are easily ignored/devalued but you people from all around the world are finally making us feel heard. I've once thought that these types of crimes are simply meant to be and that we as Korean women should learn to live with it but now I know that these aren't normal and there's people out in the world willing to lend a hand. Can't express how grateful I feel to all of you. May God bless you all.

[@fid_0565]

Yes you should not let the fight fade, I’m really sad to hear that Korean women are not heard and I imagine that it must be hard for you all and I’m really sorry. I’m from France and here sexual crimes are not taken seriously too, I really hope that the world will change for the good one day, I’m sending you all my strength and take care of yourself ❤

[@solangesolange5311]

¡Tienen que luchar por sus derechos, no hay otra manera! Mis mejores deseos para todas. 👋🏽🫂

[@musicaenel9891]

It’s not normal, it’s far from normal and what they’re doing makes a lasting scar in these women’s lives. We hear you all and we’re here to spread what is going on so maybe the government can begin to listen to victims and make laws that will help.

[@HaticeYlmaz-fx3my]

Reading your comment made us even more happy. It's nice that our support means something. Never lose hope. People from all over the world will be with you and supporting you. I send my love to the brave and strong Korean women. Take care of yourselves.

[@cwfqayin]

God bless Korean feminists!

[@dirtybubble2478]

This is what they should call "National Embarrassment" not Karina's apology for dating

[@user-dkvo1kro0lsw]

The Korean public is tolerant of male idols and harsh on female idols.

[@lauramelqonyan439]

Speak loud 👏

[@kellykimbi9101]

Karina’s apology was just the cherry on top lmfao

[@sa5m225]

even tyuzu in Twice, she had to make a whole apology just because she was waving her country flag.

[@SeonaleeSobermati]

@@user-dkvo1kro0lswholds good in every walks of life. Us women are the ones to suffer

[@TheTwil1]

Korean lawmakers need to be investigated.

[@Snshwwh]

Don't ask laws online community. Ask lawyers about Korea law. -A 20-year-old man who completed his military service in Korea returned from military service 10 days ago. - .2024.6. 27. (화성 동탄 화장실 사건)In Dongtan, Hwaseong, a Korean woman in her 30s reported to the police that a man touched her breasts and genitals, and the woman kicked the man's genitals and ran away. - Currently, there is only the woman's claim and the man's counterargument, with no substantive evidence. - The man was threatened by the police to stay quiet, and the man who had just been discharged from the military is scheduled to be imprisoned under the principle of presumption of guilt without any evidence. In this way, the Hwaseong Tongtan Police Station in Korea has achieved the highest rate of arrest of sex offenders. This is Korean law. Korean women in their 20s and 30s have made a lot of money through false accusations, and this is the popular culture of Koreans in their 20s and 30s. In a Korean women-only community, many know-hows are being shared on how to report men for false accusations and receive settlement money More than 80% of Korean women who go to nightclubs like burning sun do so with the intention of having a one-night stand. Just ask them directly. These so-called victims have one-night stands and receive millions of dollars. In our country, sex workers receive tens of thousands of dollars in free government support. Discrimination is due to ignorance, so educate yourself. BBC girls get 1000,000$ from bigbang. Actor Lee Sun-kyun was falsely accused of sexual assault by self-proclaimed radical feminists from the Daum Kakao Cafe (Yeoseongsidae), which has 840,000 members. After succumbing to their threats and extortion, paying them hundreds of thousands of dollars, he tragically committed suicide. Evidence of blackmail and false accusations was presented to the police, leading to the arrest and subsequent confession of the perpetrators. They were sentenced to one year in prison. This story is currently being covered by Korean media outlets. Many K-pop fans, predominantly women including radical feminists, also contributed to the tragic deaths of Shirley and Goo Hara with their hurtful comments. Shirley was targeted for her appeal to male audiences, leading to relentless online harassment and her untimely death. Goo Hara's suicide was likely influenced by this negativity and the Werther effect. These individuals frequently gather on Daum's official community, Yeo Seong Si Dae, which is known for its 840,000 extremist members. Within this closed community, Shirley was unjustly demonized and became the target of a relentless witch hunt. Under the Women's Protection Act in Korea, men often bear the burden of proving their innocence in sexual assault cases, leading to convictions based solely on accusations. A notable example is the case involving Yeongsu Oh, an actor from the "Squid Game" series, where the only evidence was the accuser’s diary. This legal bias was also evident in Lee Sun-kyun’s case, where false accusations led to devastating consequences. Statistics suggest that over 80% of Korean women go to nightclubs with the intention of having a one-night stand. However, the court often renders guilty verdicts based on the presumption of guilt in sexual assault cases while being more lenient in cases of prostitution and drug crimes. Despite Korea's minimum sentence of 10 years for rape, some argue that the penalties are still too lenient. Korea refers to rape as "robbery rape" and follows the principle of presumption of guilt. The 840,000 members of Kakao's women-only Daum official cafe, Yeoseongsidae, who have been implicated in criminal activities for sharing videos containing personal information of minors, have surprisingly received little attention. Insights from Reddit posts have brought to light the site's reputation for unlawfully distributing facial and nude photos, as well as personal details like addresses and names. This underscores the crucial need for direct permission from the operator to join. Notably,The exposure of this information didn't stem from formal reports but rather surfaced through disclosures on Reddit, where a former USFK member revealed the situation. The Kakao official cafe gained public attention for the first time due to its association with the former President Moon Jae-in's Democratic Party, which had close ties to the police chief who overlooked the Burning Sun scandal. Consequently, Korean media outlets like '뉴데일리' refrained from reporting on it, showing deference to the party's influence. However, it wasn't until the recent revelation of the site's criminal activities by the US military personnel that it was first brought to light. If you look at the on the site and you can show what information is being shared, they secretly filmed a minor wearing a school uniform and commented on it, saying, "he has a pretty genitals," "The face and nude photos are cute who is 17 so perfect as a sexual plaything." This crime is pubilcized for the first time in medias and newspapers because United States Forces were also recently targeted. ## Overview of the Training Recruit Torture and Murder Incident A significant point of focus in this incident is South Korea's policy of promoting civilian women to officers in the military through a quota system. This female officer, who had never seen sunlight and had extremely fair skin, imposed additional heavy burdens on the recruit and failed to take appropriate medical measures even as his health deteriorated severely. This incident tragically involves the death of a recruit due to torture during military training. ### Incident Process 1. **Recruit A Enlistment**: - Recruit A enlisted in the military. - Recruit A had been in the military for only 9 days. 2. **Excessive Burden and Torture**: - Despite already carrying a heavy military pack weighing approximately 40kg, Officer B forced Recruit A to carry an even heavier load. - As a result, Recruit A's health deteriorated significantly, and despite requests for help from fellow recruits, Officer B ignored them. 3. **Tragic Outcome**: - Due to the excessive burden and torture, Recruit A eventually died. - Subsequently, Officer B attempted to cover up the incident, but it was exposed due to efforts from medical institutions and military officials. ### Controversial Elements 1. **Gender Disparity in Punishment**: - Many people criticize the fact that Officer B, as the perpetrator, received not even an arrest or investigation but instead a month-long vacation supposedly for mental stability, solely because she is a woman. However, South Korean women in their 20s and 30s tend to distort this as a "Chosun Dynasty exile measure" and implicitly support the perpetrator due to her gender. - Politicians are wary of the response from young female voters and have thus faced criticism for not handling the incident appropriately. Given the significant political influence of women in South Korean society, it is important for women to bravely report such incidents to the media. However, currently, very few Korean women have come forward with this incident to the press. Seoul National University's Happiness Research Center and Kakao Geachi jointly conducted and published the "ABOUT H: South Korea Happiness Report 2019" (21st Century Books) on the 9th. Professor Choi In-cheol and the research team from Seoul National University's Happiness Research Center also held a press conference at Gwanghwamun Vertex Korea on the same day. The survey targeted 1.05 million people over the past year, accumulating a total of 2.27 million records due to the possibility of duplicate responses. The research team and publishers claimed it to be the world's first and largest "national happiness research project." According to the survey findings, women in their 20s and 30s exhibited the highest levels of materialism, the lowest gratitude index (degree of felt gratitude), and the highest prevalence of neurosis (emotional anxiety). They also showed a high tendency to compare themselves with others. Professor Choi stated, "The answer to gender differences lies in neurosis. Women in their 20s and 30s showed the highest tendency towards neurosis," adding, "Women in their 20s and 30s also had the lowest levels of gratitude. Therefore, they exhibit a heightened sense of victimization, mistrust towards others, and a significantly increased likelihood of explosive and aggressive behavior even with minor stressors.,

[@kikiyu-e6e]

Everywhere is “Burning sun” for women in Korea. This is the reality. I never think Korean feminism is too radical. We need more feminists. I am a Korean woman and i feel sorry that i had not done much for the better.

[@万恶共匪毒害中华]

Korean men are misogynist, I don't think you can ever have any feminism progression in such an environment

[@larissacamillo8231]

It's not your fault 💔

[@systemhasfailedus841]

I think korean feminists are not radical enough at this point

[@wlrnvudvudtjf-yj6kf]

The claim that Korean feminists are too radical is a one-sided claim by Korean men who want to cover up their own misguided ideas and tell the rest of the world that it's Korean women's fault.

[@daniellet.3047]

Sulli was a feminist in my eyes, but tragically the world was very gross to her. I just wish she didn't make the choice to end her life. But I think she deserves alot more credit for standing against the publics criticism of her such as not wearing bras, dating who she wants to, not being ashamed of her body or of being female. When she posted a video on IG of how she gets ready, there was a split second moment while she was straightening her hair, she had a nip slip due to the angle and the fact that she was wearing a loose fitting dress shirt. When people pointed this out, instead of feeling ashamed or embarrassed and deleting the video - she responded with "whats wrong? Hasn't anyone seen a woman's body before? It was just a mistake, i dont know whats so bad about it" She was a really nice person and genuinely didn't understand why people were so mean to her . But online bullying it can seem louder than it is ** * * * EDIT: thanks for all the likes. If only she was still around to all see the support she has. Hopefully it can serve as a reminder - for all celebrities, whether they're Korean or American artists, Think of how much Britney Spears went through, remember when paparazzi got a pic looking up her skirt & put her vagina picture was all over magazines & media? And we all SHAMED her for it, even though she didn't even take the picture? We've gotten a bit better, but still. Keep in mind

[@Timepersonalspace]

This kpop fans need to hate more on this idols than wounyoung for eating strawberries with both of her hands

[@ishitheII]

SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK 🗣️🔥🔥🔥‼️

[@ArmelSight]

ikrr!! These double standards are so annoying and confusing 💀

[@youngandrich-ricky]

SAY IT LOUDER 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣

[@aditikule2482]

I don't know like I also like some k pop artist.. but how can a person put blind eye on these kind of heinous crime.. do they just stop their logical thinking!! I mean education enables you to think and then judge for yourself what's right or wrong.. Being a fan doesn't mean you're their servant like those staffs at burning sun that you'd be blind , deaf,dumb.. Ridiculous

[@newxedit]

SO TRUE

[@BeatriceOmondi-r4h]

Can't believe that those found guilty were never given enough punishment

[@m.a.b.4104]

Unfortunately, it's too easy to believe. That's a big part of the problem.

[@mageedays]

Shame on them

[@juliaahn2783]

That's because it happened in Korea. In Korea anything goes if you have money and power.

[@m.a.b.4104]

@@juliaahn2783 like most places

[@Kimmy234L]

South Korea does not have tight and tough laws or sentences. They don't even regard certain assaults, harrassment or abuse as Unlawful. They also Victim Blame.

[@Plaf__]

I cried watching this. I don't have words. I'm beyond furious, frustrated, I hate this injustice. I hate how men can do stuff like this without being punished, how they have 0 empathy and will never get to feel the pain they inflected. I hate this world, only knowing there is still good people around us is what keeps my hope.

[@My_aelisa]

It's like you wrote my thoughts, I also feel very frustrated about this injustice.

[@charlotte0904]

When rape, gang rape, forced prostitution, coercive intoxication, and the drugging of young girls is seen as ‘feminist’, is when you know a country needs some serious introspection. It is not feminist to ask for bare minimum human rights, in a first world country no less. Basic human decency aside, are the men of Korea not absolutely mortified that their mothers, aunts, cousins, sisters, daughters, and granddaughters could wake up one day having experienced what these women did at the hands of people they thought they could trust? Are the men of Korea not absolutely appalled by how women seem to have no level of protection from their law enforcement to the point where matters as severe as this are simply swept under the rug FOR YEARS with no intention of addressing anything?! Absolute shame on Korean society for allowing this to persist for so long, and for letting every single one of these men walk free today. The fact that there are men in these comments berating Korean women for being distraught about their reality, and the fact that some of these comments are the anonymous accounts of Korean women who could lose their livelihoods if found out to have been engaging in ‘feminist’ content is APPALLING. Korea cannot be serious?!

[@Xogus_2v]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@UtahGal]

This 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 I once thought to visit Korea, but as more of how women are treated by the LAW and police when such atrocious happen. I say SHAME, SHAME, SHAME. This Woman will take Korea off her bucket list. 18 MONTHS .....Outrageous. 5 yeas? Are you KIDDING me? Pathetic justice system

[@tamiinix]

Men in general don't typically make that connection. To them, especially in korea but also worldwide unfortunately, women who go through that or women who are in places like clubs are not people, they're things. It's encouraged through their man on man relationships with locker talk and lack of education on female sexual health for men and is perpetuated through the emphasis and importance placed on men in society. Think about familiar hierarchy, historically the man was above his wife, he owned everything and could do anything. Whilst the idea is outdated, some families cling to it. So those ideas get passed down to children who are never told otherwise in other parts of society and who, once grown up a little, will then talk about it with their friends in ways that more and more snowball towards hatred or objectification towards women. It's an intrinsic part of society and the only way to make it even a little less potent is for men and boys to hold their friends accountable.

[@tatsuya.sprite]

Feminism is needed in the East so badly.

[@Cave-u5j]

Exactly! A facade that was created to make it seem that it's a great country, but look for a few moments and you notice the cracks.

[@PiggiesInTheRain]

Wait, rape gets you 2.5 years? That’s it? And the policeman who protected rapists gets nothing? What the hell is this Korea?? What did Jun get?

[@jadoremusic620]

5 years only

[@BTSxARMYxPurpleLOVE]

Oh there’s a sighting of him recently at a club in france partying telling people he is a musician from boston. Be careful. They think they can start anew here in europe because of course nobody knew them.

[@AnokiLonin]

WTF

[@getthefoutofhere1990]

Korean laws are very protective for men than women

[@karlarebecaneirasandoval4695]

Not only Korea, all around the world is the same or worst. In Mexico most of the rapists get nothing, because they are colluded with the police.

[@MischievousMischief]

Those female reporters are absolute legends! It takes so much courage. Thank you so much for your hard work 🫶

[@jhoi890]

Great layer ,I can say.. they mixed up two different case..hahahahaha..

[@elenabob4953]

​@@jhoi890Oh you missed the connection, you should carefully watch again the video so it wouldn't escape you the second time. Maybe you need to put it at 75%speed so you would understand it this time. Really, it isn't complicated or rocket science.

[@AROHA-b2x]

The journalist who lost her kids..she is a hero😭

[@annikalund2329]

To that poor woman who had been raped: I think you are very very brave to tell your story and I wish you all the best for the rest of your life!

[@anju5124]

True. She's so brave to speak up for all of us.

[@umhi5743]

I wish I could give her a hug or be rich enough to buy her a lot of presents or smth because she deserves it! The poor thing has gone through so much 😔

[@pruitv0]

what woman mentioned seungri though, none and here you are using this victim to mix up her own words showing how you dont care one bit about her.

[@annikalund2329]

@@pruitv0 , It doesn’t matter who did it, I just felt sorry for her suffering.

[@pruitv0]

@@annikalund2329 if you feel sorry for her and the real victims then you should also stand up to the innocent people who are wrongly accused, let alone how the victims themselves literally stated that seungri wasnt involved.

[@carolini8595]

13:28 When she says that there was a video of a man r4ping a woman from behind and the bedroom door was closed in the group chat, that man is Kwon Hyuk Jun, older brother of SNSD's Kwon Yuri. When it was revealed who participated in Seungri's chat group with Jung Joonyoung, Kwon Hyuk Jun's name was mentioned, he only said that he participated in the chat group to talk about business with Seungri, but later admitted his guilt. Kwon Hyuk Jun was sentenced to 10 years in prison, but managed to appeal South Korea's injustice laws, and changed his name to Kwon Yeon Oh.

[@Reveluvvvv55]

Your comment needs more attention

[@MaudlinBlase]

SNSD girls were friends will all of these men and they have nothing to say? On the contrary, they're all practically retired now, aren't they... Celebrities in general are shit people, narcissists willing to look away and later claim innocence or ignorance to the world they are a part of and are all responsible for creating. Again, those girls barely work, so wtf aren't they repenting and using what popularity they have left to seek justice for victims like Goo Hara did? Well, one can only assume that they also have a tail to step on.

[@carolini8595]

​@@MaudlinBlaseAll the girls in SNSD knew BigBang, and they were close. At the time of the scandal (I was following), Yuri's brother had written a letter asking for forgiveness and talking about the possibility of his mistake tarnishing his sister's career. Yuri never spoke about this case or her brother. I remember that the only one from SNSD who spoke about the case was Hyoyeon (in 2021), because on the day that the complainant (who was attacked and was protecting a woman from harassment) mentioned that she was performing that day. Hyoyeon made a post on Instagram about her performance at Burning Sun, stating that that day she just went to the club to do the show and didn't know what was happening there.

[@r3v773]

@@MaudlinBlase Korean celebs can be cancel by smallest thing so its normal nobody talks. The whole nation is full of corruption and lacks of freedom. One of their members is example of that, she never was allowed on tv anymore, Jessica i believe.

[@sorevelink5144]

The judicial system in SK is very corrupt as most crimes can be silenced with the proper price or proposition to higher status. Im not saying SK is the only one like this, I bet many strong nations too (they just hide it better) but it just shows how horrible our world is.

[@mapletea8902]

18 months, 2 years, 6 years is shockingly short for how horrible their crimes were

[@yayaarmyjjang]

Agree!!

[@vilisawonder]

Can’t agree more!!’

[@Jea_3007]

Agree

[@ethereal_moon888]

Es una condena muy injusta

[@wasifchoudhury7992]

In some countries they give death penalties for such crime.

[@cristy001]

This is so incredibly terrible. Seungri should be rotting away behind bars. Where is the justice?!

[@pruitv4]

still innocent if you sick hater likes it or not he literally proved that he was not involved with jjy or burning sun and neve raccused of anything involving victims.

[@Nynhii]

korean laws are rubbish

[@songbrita]

@@pruitv4u sure love defending him 🤡🫡

[@mariaknutsson779]

@@pruitv4 Did you watch this documentary at all? He instigated it, and made it happen!

[@markgeolli263]

The victim will live the trauma throughout their lives while the suspects only suffers 6 years in prison. This is so infuriating

[@kpopenthusiast2180]

it was even reduced to five years...

[@ccdark6526]

Suffers? I guarantee you their room int he prison is bigger than my bedroom and the food they ate in the prison is better than what i ate and i'm not even in prison

[@Illilllilll]

- jung junyoung (5years prison), choi jonghoon(2years prison) : gang rape, filming.. - Seunglee(Victory), member of Bigbang (18 months prison) : arrangement of prostitution, drug etc(about 9 criminals) - Yoon yougeun, ex police superintendent($15000) : close relationship between prostitution Its very nice conditions to make criminals in Korea.😢😅

[@goldiefabros1701]

I can't believe after all these, they were just able to get minimal punishment and many others were just living free. While the victims have to suffer the rest of their lives. Sadly, those who try to get justice are no longer with us. Women are not objects and toys for the rich and powerful to play!

[@angel-haru]

To make matters worse, the fact that celebrities were sentenced to five years in Korea constitutes a long period of time. I don't like Korean laws.

[@carpediem3810]

Now I understand why most Korean feminists have no choice but to be "radical" to defend woman's rights. Cause even in such a terrible and heartbreaking case the judges weren't on the side of the womens. I respect all feminist women in Korea.

[@JKLA09]

Agree.. now I'm seeing 4B movement as a resistance, understandable.

[@moonpancake]

the more 1 group being unheard, they will get more radical. That's the mirror of the society.

[@aoh4905]

Such a narrow minded person lol... Every country has these issues and also weird woke/feminists as well. You just happen to be interested in only 1 country.

[@GoldenWreck]

@@aoh4905 Because South Korea is the place these crimes are happening and is the subject of the video? . The irony of you to mention narrow-mindedness lmao, although not surprised considering your usage of the word 'weird' when referring to the terms 'woke' and 'feminists'.

[@Yoonji9212]

@@aoh4905 Not every country has shitty laws like in S.Korea. Victim blaming is pretty "normal" there. "You get r*ped? What did you do? Do you dressed provocatively? What did you do to make that man do this?" It's always women's fault. R*ape victims have really small chances to get justice. Stalking? The punishment is just a cash fine and it's not even crime, it's only misdemeanor. I see one narrow minded person here and it's not OP.

[@Sakyura05]

The way the journalists had two miscarriage because of the stress breaks my heart into a million pieces

[@account9222]

The fact that so called most hated celebs like Gu hara helped in revealing their sick actions even though it costed her a lot and most loved celebs like seungri etc are the most disgusting people shows that ones who actually deserve love are never given it until its too late

[@crazyFun129]

Ikr , and guess what I spotted sick people defending him by saying he got more punishment than he deserved... WTH 😒

[@pruitv4]

just toxic inetz who dont even know that hara and seungri were close friends and enjoy slandering him to make themselves feel better even after he literally proved that he wasnt involved with both jjys and burning suns case.

[@camilacalvo4550]

The fact that Seungri has been the head, the boss of all this and his sentence is 1 and a half years, makes my blood BOILLLL

[@betnak6283]

A lot of females fans still support him.. they can’t accept that he is a monster.

[@OrdinaryApprentice99]

@@betnak6283 Rather than that, they are likeminded psychos themselves. Sometimes fans can be even more evil than the artists themselves which gets those artists this superiority complex at the first place.

[@onlystarsknow767]

And even to this day, some people still think he is innocent. They can even die defending him like??

[@virginiagorio5847]

bacause a lot of high profile people will be exposed if he talks. he is jeffrey epstein of korea.

[@JADEMOND]

Exacto este caso no avanzo porque los clientes VIP son los que están sosteniendo esto por detrás, impidiendo que avance está investigacion, revelación y la justa condena de los implicados.

[@gaylelim9131]

Not only did seungri get a slap on the wrist, he was filmed at some rich guy's party in Malaysia very recently, performing for them. The fact that he's able to eke out a career and still have people who support him after all he has done is disgusting. He should be in jail and never see the light of the day.

[@vvaenhadzln]

for real some people should kick him for that country

[@syazleenazahar3989]

True! So scared that he will establish another “Burning Sun” here.

[@98765KSC]

@@syazleenazahar3989rumour has it he’s opening a club in Cambodia

[@team_byeol]

And he still uses Bigbang for clout and connections... It's not just his actions that are insane, but also the number of people that CHOOSE to support him as of today.

[@piruncute]

It's so sad and scary that he came to Cambodia and ran into an idea "Opening a club in Cambodia" Some people here are too soon to forget what he has done.

[@huntress1013]

Perfect timing. Just when a certain rapist has been released from prison and singing BigBang songs agai.... it is so utterly disgusting and shouldn't be forgotten. Goo Hara has NOT died in vain.

[@vei80s53]

Seungri is a disgusting man but he was not the one convicted as a rapist

[@iya7126]

who has been released again?

[@quasion6693]

@@iya7126 seungri and someone else i believe

[@aeri_taylors-version]

WDYM THEY’VE BEEN RELEASED?!?

[@pinkitydinkity6550]

@@aeri_taylors-versionsadly yes, their sentences were too short

[@levithebaddest2369]

Thank you so much BBC for bringing this case back to the light!

[@arielle2336]

One of the most disturbing things about these chats is how MDs referred to women. They called them “water”. “Bring the best water to VIP’s room”, “There is a man near water, don’t let him touch it”. Completely dehumanised women, made them objects to use…

[@miuthub7954]

They must think the same of their mothers, sisters, daughters and nieces and so on.... Awful

[@xprrj]

It's also a language thing. In general people say in Korean there's good water when there's good prospects of both women and men. Here they took it to a literal level. 😣

[@And-wi7ni]

"If your are persecuting us for this, then shouldn't all korean men be called criminals?" wow.

[@ed3245]

How fcked up his mind.

[@andrelopez2514]

if you see the documentary about the N room there is a lot of criminals out in the streets never procecuted

[@AramasG]

@@andrelopez2514yeah that was horrific. The fact this is just the tip of the iceberg that’s sticking out of the cess pool is what’s really tragic.

[@AyAReI00]

And thats why they keep doing it ... Cuz they get less time than rob, stalk, doing drugs ... Is like so ridicolous MANY don't Even do jail time at all

[@amelioratenote7845]

I remember seeing these kind of comments n debate throughout when the things blew up . They tried to divert the actual crime

[@sphinky1156]

this feels like a gateway segment into human trafficking. There's a huge issue with bribery and policemen in Korea

[@BonBonWasHere111]

When I lived there there was a lot of human trafficking in plain site and near military bases

[@starrygrimes500]

It basically is

[@noodleaddict-i7c]

These days, prostitution businesses trick girls into recruiting on job search sites. The 19 olds girl, who went to cafe part-time job interview, committed suicide after being raped by people who were actually prostitution businesses in Busan.

[@MexiCars]

Its the Government that made the police hide all those Skeleton just not to tarnish tha (Good)image of Korea lol

[@em5522]

It's insane that the higher ups involved have never been prosecuted for this. Idt (cmiiw) the police, themselves, ever faced proper scrutiny from their _known_ involvement.

[@allaroundtworld]

Too many idols in that scandal but they didnt talk. How sad. K-pop industry really disgusting.

[@pruitv4]

still innocent if you sick hater likes it or not he literally proved that he was not involved with jjy or burning sun and neve raccused of anything involving victims.

[@allaroundtworld]

@@pruitv4 you're so stupid to believe that. Burning sun his bar not jjys

[@nainarai8377]

@@pruitv4 Blindness and idiocy has a new name

[@Mjmj33700]

In Korea if a woman speaks up they get criticized.

[@arienintys]

and most of those who criticized are women too. what a pity

[@HyunJinKim-z3o]

what? you live north korea?

[@arienintys]

​@one5142 i know. but what i mean here is when male idols make mistakes, most of their female fans still defend them. even reporter Park was heavily criticized by Seungri's female fans until had twice miscarriages, eventhough they are fellow woman

[@JurinAlphaz]

It's true. Both men and women will criticize them because they still think that if a woman is anywhere close to a feminist, she is too dramatic or is making too much of a fuss about it. Honestly, a lot of them frown upon feminists because they associate it with the misconstrued meaning of feminism which is widely being portrayed by the west right now.

[@aaaa-zu6im]

​@@ddgrey9675are they wrong?we can see what happened to hara,jang ja yeon.c'mon who are u fooling here?

[@LUCKY-kl7vo]

BBC가 버닝썬에 대해 다루어줘서 한국에서 다시 이 사건이 재조명 받고 있습니다 감사합니다

[@imaneb4938]

That's good. People shouldn't forget the horrible crimes those criminals have committed.

[@soniafiochi]

Näo só para a Coreia mas sim para o mundo. 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷

[@Artemisia_Sarabi1340]

Thank goodness. I'm a K-pop fan from Brazil and I haven't forgotten this case since the first article was published. I have heavy triggers to this date about this case because I was already in a bad time, Jonghyun offed himself, then this criminal case happened, and Sulli offed herself and Hara soon after. This case is a huge red alert and has been forgotten because K-pop is a very convenient tool for hiding shit under rugs. Jonghyun's, Sulli's and Hara's deaths were cherries on top of this cake, because they show even more red flags and dark sides to South Korean misogynistic and homophobic culture. ALWAYS follow any celebrity taking their immaculate or naive personas with many a spoonful of salt.

[@그리뜨]

정치인 문정권 실세들 수사해야 진실이 밝혀진다

[@MonnyArcade]

The most worrying thing was when the man said something like, "if what was on seungri's phone 3 years ago gets him arrested, then shouldn't all men be arrested". Oh my god. Yes, arrest them all if this is the norm!

[@Snshwwh]

The court rendered guilty verdicts based on the presumption of guilt in cases of sexual assault,while acquitting and then finding guilty in cases of prostitution and drug crimes based on the presumption of innocence. However, except for the most serious charges, sentences often appeared to be lenient, resembling acquittals. In Korea, there is a minimum sentence of 10 years for rape, but some argue that this is still too lenient. Korea refers to rape as "robbery rape" and follows the principle of presumption of guilt. The concerning events surrounding Kakao's women-only Daum official cafe, Yeoseongsidae, have shed light on a troubling trend of criminal activities and online misconduct. Despite the gravity of these issues, they have largely evaded public scrutiny until recent revelations brought them to the forefront. The exploitation of minors through the sharing of sensitive personal information, coupled with the unlawful distribution of explicit content, underscores the urgent need for accountability and regulation within online communities. The fact that these revelations emerged not through formal reports but via disclosures on Reddit is indicative of systemic oversight and complacency. Furthermore, the association of Yeoseongsidae with influential political figures has raised questions about the integrity of media coverage and the prioritization of certain narratives over others. The reluctance of Korean media outlets to report on these matters, influenced by political affiliations, speaks to a larger issue of institutional bias and censorship. Of particular concern is the disparity in the treatment of perpetrators based on gender. The case of the trainee soldier, driven to his demise by malicious intent and neglect, highlights the pervasiveness of misandry and the dangers of unchecked extremism. The fact that the perpetrator, motivated by intense hatred for men, received leniency and psychological treatment underscores systemic inequities and the need for reform. Moreover, the prevalence of false accusations and the detrimental impact on innocent individuals, exemplified by the tragic suicide of actor Lee Sun-kyun, underscores the urgent need for legal safeguards and protections against defamation and harassment. In light of these revelations, it is imperative to challenge harmful stereotypes and promote accountability and transparency within online communities. Only through collective action and awareness can we address the root causes of discrimination and ensure a safer and more equitable society for all. Actor Lee Sun-kyun was falsely accused of sexual assault by self-proclaimed radical feminists who were members of the Daum Kakao Cafe (Yeoseongsidae) with 840,000 members. He committed suicide after succumbing to their threats, sending them tens of thousands of dollars. Evidence of blackmail and false accusations for sexual violence was presented to the police, leading to their arrest. They confessed and were sentenced to one year in prison. Korean media outlets are currently covering this story. This fact is being covered by the Korean media The 840,000 members of Kakao's women-only Daum official cafe, Yeoseongsidae, who have been implicated in criminal activities for sharing videos containing personal information of minors, have surprisingly received little attention. Insights from Reddit posts have brought to light the site's reputation for unlawfully distributing facial and nude photos, as well as personal details like addresses and names. This underscores the crucial need for direct permission from the operator to join. Notably,The exposure of this information didn't stem from formal reports but rather surfaced through disclosures on Reddit, where a former USFK member revealed the situation. The Kakao official cafe gained public attention for the first time due to its association with the former President Moon Jae-in's Democratic Party, which had close ties to the police chief who overlooked the Burning Sun scandal. Consequently, Korean media outlets like '뉴데일리' refrained from reporting on it, showing deference to the party's influence. However, it wasn't until the recent revelation of the site's criminal activities by the US military personnel that it was first brought to light. If you look at the on the site and you can show what information is being shared, they secretly filmed a minor wearing a school uniform and commented on it, saying, "he has a pretty genitals," "The face and nude photos are cute who is 17 so perfect as a sexual plaything." This crime is pubilcized for the first time in medias and newspapers because United States Forces were also recently targeted. Many K-pop fans, predominantly women, including self-proclaimed radical feminists, contributed to Shirley's tragic death with their hurtful comments, disapproving of her appeal to male audiences. This negativity led to Goo Hara's suicide, possibly influenced by the Werther effect. A large portion of these individuals gather on Daum's official community, Yeo Seong Si Dae, boasting 840,000 extremists. Shirley became the target of a relentless witch hunt within this closed community, where she was unjustly demonized."

[@Snshwwh]

The court rendered guilty verdicts based on the presumption of guilt in cases of sexual assault,while acquitting and then finding guilty in cases of prostitution and drug crimes based on the presumption of innocence. However, except for the most serious charges, sentences often appeared to be lenient, resembling acquittals. In Korea, there is a minimum sentence of 10 years for rape, but some argue that this is still too lenient. Korea refers to rape as "robbery rape" and follows the principle of presumption of guilt. The concerning events surrounding Kakao's women-only Daum official cafe, Yeoseongsidae, have shed light on a troubling trend of criminal activities and online misconduct. Despite the gravity of these issues, they have largely evaded public scrutiny until recent revelations brought them to the forefront. The exploitation of minors through the sharing of sensitive personal information, coupled with the unlawful distribution of explicit content, underscores the urgent need for accountability and regulation within online communities. The fact that these revelations emerged not through formal reports but via disclosures on Reddit is indicative of systemic oversight and complacency. Furthermore, the association of Yeoseongsidae with influential political figures has raised questions about the integrity of media coverage and the prioritization of certain narratives over others. The reluctance of Korean media outlets to report on these matters, influenced by political affiliations, speaks to a larger issue of institutional bias and censorship. Of particular concern is the disparity in the treatment of perpetrators based on gender. The case of the trainee soldier, driven to his demise by malicious intent and neglect, highlights the pervasiveness of misandry and the dangers of unchecked extremism. The fact that the perpetrator, motivated by intense hatred for men, received leniency and psychological treatment underscores systemic inequities and the need for reform. Moreover, the prevalence of false accusations and the detrimental impact on innocent individuals, exemplified by the tragic suicide of actor Lee Sun-kyun, underscores the urgent need for legal safeguards and protections against defamation and harassment. In light of these revelations, it is imperative to challenge harmful stereotypes and promote accountability and transparency within online communities. Only through collective action and awareness can we address the root causes of discrimination and ensure a safer and more equitable society for all. Actor Lee Sun-kyun was falsely accused of sexual assault by self-proclaimed radical feminists who were members of the Daum Kakao Cafe (Yeoseongsidae) with 840,000 members. He committed suicide after succumbing to their threats, sending them tens of thousands of dollars. Evidence of blackmail and false accusations for sexual violence was presented to the police, leading to their arrest. They confessed and were sentenced to one year in prison. Korean media outlets are currently covering this story. This fact is being covered by the Korean media The 840,000 members of Kakao's women-only Daum official cafe, Yeoseongsidae, who have been implicated in criminal activities for sharing videos containing personal information of minors, have surprisingly received little attention. Insights from Reddit posts have brought to light the site's reputation for unlawfully distributing facial and nude photos, as well as personal details like addresses and names. This underscores the crucial need for direct permission from the operator to join. Notably,The exposure of this information didn't stem from formal reports but rather surfaced through disclosures on Reddit, where a former USFK member revealed the situation. The Kakao official cafe gained public attention for the first time due to its association with the former President Moon Jae-in's Democratic Party, which had close ties to the police chief who overlooked the Burning Sun scandal. Consequently, Korean media outlets like '뉴데일리' refrained from reporting on it, showing deference to the party's influence. However, it wasn't until the recent revelation of the site's criminal activities by the US military personnel that it was first brought to light. If you look at the on the site and you can show what information is being shared, they secretly filmed a minor wearing a school uniform and commented on it, saying, "he has a pretty genitals," "The face and nude photos are cute who is 17 so perfect as a sexual plaything." This crime is pubilcized for the first time in medias and newspapers because United States Forces were also recently targeted. Many K-pop fans, predominantly women, including self-proclaimed radical feminists, contributed to Shirley's tragic death with their hurtful comments, disapproving of her appeal to male audiences. This negativity led to Goo Hara's suicide, possibly influenced by the Werther effect. A large portion of these individuals gather on Daum's official community, Yeo Seong Si Dae, boasting 840,000 extremists. Shirley became the target of a relentless witch hunt within this closed community, where she was unjustly demonized."

[@averageabnormalboredhuman4431]

​@user-gq5fg3lo2c quite the man you are bringing this up in a case where the MEN are clearly at fault. Go cry about misandry elsewhere.

[@hyeinjeon1487]

​@@Snshwwhhey are you mental???????

[@luskaneseprince]

@@Snshwwh Seriously dude, not the time or place for your strange whataboutist rants. What does your little story have to do with possibly thousands and thousands of men having extremely incriminating material about women saved in their phones? How does your single case about a single cruel woman disprove anything? Even if there were a handful of feminists whose behavior was getting out of hand, WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH THIS CASE? Does it make it untrue? Does it make male violence against women not worth talking about? I follow the Korean news very closely and I haven't heard of a single case where convictions were solely based on unfounded accusations, but go off I guess.

[@crapcrow640]

RIP, Go Hara! You are so strong and beautiful woman. I genuinely wished you have a good life in afterlife ♥️ and please be happy no matter what.

[@navinwoo7287]

It was reported that “he is all ready to open a club in Cambodia” this guy is obviously needs to spend the rest of his life in prison

[@CAROUSEL5505]

As a cambodian, he needs to stay the f out. I cant believe some of my people are so ignorant that they welcome such a disgusting convict

[@katlekat214]

it being in a more rural country near Thailand makes it scarier

[@patta938]

And also one of them in the news already open the club in Thailand

[@katlekat214]

@@patta938 They’re already making a whole new ring it seems, trafficking is already huge in those and some of the surrounding countries, it’s scary.

[@yuiakashi1273]

as a cambodian, very few ppl know what they have done its scary to know that alot of females here still likes them and willing to support their clubs because they were clueless of what happened

[@yanan3006]

It sadder that kpop fans would defend their idol even if they did something horrendous.

[@E11-oh4be]

That is the reason I always say GET BETTER IDOLS

[@pinkyvalera5480]

True 👍

[@dj29_dayasivasri.s15]

most fans are teenagers who cant control their hormones and the rest grown up people who are still supporting them are straight up crack

[@kana1372]

I think if maybe their idols did it to them they'll still accept and defend them. That kind of mindset HAHAHA!

[@tinag7506]

​@@E11-oh4bedo away with this "idol" culture. They're just entertainers

[@orangepumpkin22]

This is the reality of Korean men, don’t be fooled by K-drama

[@Artnotforthesakeofart]

That's why depict them as swoony gentlemen in k-drama (and kpop) because the reality is too shitty. The manufactured images are needed to cover the truth, otherwise they should be themselves if they were normal.

[@cupid3890]

lol I heard the dating scene is pretty bad when it comes to the men no wonder nobody's having kids anymore there

[@anusuyanallathambi248]

most kdramas are written by women. Those MMCs are men written by women for women. Its pretty obvious its not the reality.

[@gadgetimpulse3833]

Exactly, you can find Korean men in all the red light districts around the world especially Thailand

[@kangjhha]

you have no clue of reality😵‍💫

[@mobraksamar7022]

How the fuck seungri still has fans , like who are this people ???

[@jitgtij]

the K-pop industry targets the young to create a continuous expanding fan base, they will grow up one day and see the truth

[@Yuki-s7w]

Same Question who wants to be a fan of criminal

[@exosproudmamabear558]

Even school shooters and serial killers have fans so I am not that surprised. Some even delude themselves we dont know what happened look he only got a few years so he probably didnt do something bad. At the start of the contraversy they were saying Jung was the one who did it Seungri didnt do anything and his friends were the bad guys Seungri got disgusted and he just left the group but didnt report or something along the lines. There was also some information jyp(their kpop agency) was highly involved with burning sun and they chose Seungri as scapegoat or someshit. There are still people who believes this bulshit. I mean jyp probably involved too but this doesnt change Seungri involved too. This was before he was convicted tho but some stick to this narrative even after thinking he is innocent. I am not a big bang fan but exol we heard the stuff extensively but werent involve directly so I dont know exact details as much as some others who were following it specifically.

[@meixiao1422]

이 영상이 세계적으로 유명해지길 진심으로 바란다.

[@Themanisred]

Lol. Most people don't care about k pop

[@lovinda89]

​@@Themanisred I think it's good if this video goes viral. Some girls in my country still defend trash Seungri coz lack of understanding about burning sun scandal

[@highline87]

@@Themanisred Westerner mostly think SK and JP is only developed in Asia so this kinda issue came shock to us. If it happened in China or India, this wouldn’t be surprising news.

[@notvvell9442]

​@@highline87 Taking the opportunity to smear other countries doesn't make you look wise.

[@FixingBenjamin]

​@@Themanisred ?? This has nothing to do with K-pop it's not a K-pop documentary it's a true crime doc! 😭😭

[@user-s8w9y]

As a Korean, thank you so much for making such a documentary and letting the world know. In Korea, cases were buried. It was literally covered up. Very few people received light sentences. Now that the small sentence is over, they are living in great luxury. What is deplorable is that women's human rights are at this level in Korean society. I hope many people know the reality of Korea. I hope there are no people (especially K-pop fans) who are affected by fantasizing about Korean society.

[@LuliD2]

It wasn't covered up, it was a scandal that made it to the international news. It was all people talked about everyday for 3 months. The SK President himself asked to investigate deeply and punish the responsibles. One of the problems was the reporting of the press, it was very negligent, people couldn't separate rumors and facts because of that. Also the worst problem about the sentencing was the laws. The punishment was light because the laws aren's strict enough with sexual crimes

[@Sonnenanbeterin1991]

There is also a korean version you can share in korea and they do a series too

[@Sonnenanbeterin1991]

​@@LuliD2still thes are all out of prison by know ans suengri has a TV Show comming up

[@LuliD2]

@@Sonnenanbeterin1991 yeah, they are out of prison, people should make protest to force politicians to change the laws. Also, where did you see the thing about the tv show? I've seen comments here about it but I haven't seen any news about that

[@elinglee8878]

​@@LuliD2I have not seen any reporting in major news outlets in US

[@TheICEgirl6100]

Publishing this a month after the last perpetrator got released is genius, never let the public forget what they’ve done!!

[@reah-i6l]

Yesssss. The countless victims who have been traumatised deserve better.

[@meia002]

Thank you BBC for covering this and reminding people who starting to forget this whole controversy. They really get away easy and are now living like nothing ever happened.

[@Snshwwh]

Don't ask laws online community. Ask lawyers about Korea law. -A 20-year-old man who completed his military service in Korea returned from military service 10 days ago. - .2024.6. 27. (화성 동탄 화장실 사건)In Dongtan, Hwaseong, a Korean woman in her 30s reported to the police that a man touched her breasts and genitals, and the woman kicked the man's genitals and ran away. - Currently, there is only the woman's claim and the man's counterargument, with no substantive evidence. - The man was threatened by the police to stay quiet, and the man who had just been discharged from the military is scheduled to be imprisoned under the principle of presumption of guilt without any evidence. In this way, the Hwaseong Tongtan Police Station in Korea has achieved the highest rate of arrest of sex offenders. This is Korean law. Korean women in their 20s and 30s have made a lot of money through false accusations, and this is the popular culture of Koreans in their 20s and 30s. In a Korean women-only community, many know-hows are being shared on how to report men for false accusations and receive settlement money More than 80% of Korean women who go to nightclubs like burning sun do so with the intention of having a one-night stand. Just ask them directly. These so-called victims have one-night stands and receive millions of dollars. In our country, sex workers receive tens of thousands of dollars in free government support. Discrimination is due to ignorance, so educate yourself. BBC girls get 1000,000$ from bigbang. Actor Lee Sun-kyun was falsely accused of sexual assault by self-proclaimed radical feminists from the Daum Kakao Cafe (Yeoseongsidae), which has 840,000 members. After succumbing to their threats and extortion, paying them hundreds of thousands of dollars, he tragically committed suicide. Evidence of blackmail and false accusations was presented to the police, leading to the arrest and subsequent confession of the perpetrators. They were sentenced to one year in prison. This story is currently being covered by Korean media outlets. Many K-pop fans, predominantly women including radical feminists, also contributed to the tragic deaths of Shirley and Goo Hara with their hurtful comments. Shirley was targeted for her appeal to male audiences, leading to relentless online harassment and her untimely death. Goo Hara's suicide was likely influenced by this negativity and the Werther effect. These individuals frequently gather on Daum's official community, Yeo Seong Si Dae, which is known for its 840,000 extremist members. Within this closed community, Shirley was unjustly demonized and became the target of a relentless witch hunt. Under the Women's Protection Act in Korea, men often bear the burden of proving their innocence in sexual assault cases, leading to convictions based solely on accusations. A notable example is the case involving Yeongsu Oh, an actor from the "Squid Game" series, where the only evidence was the accuser’s diary. This legal bias was also evident in Lee Sun-kyun’s case, where false accusations led to devastating consequences. Statistics suggest that over 80% of Korean women go to nightclubs with the intention of having a one-night stand. However, the court often renders guilty verdicts based on the presumption of guilt in sexual assault cases while being more lenient in cases of prostitution and drug crimes. Despite Korea's minimum sentence of 10 years for rape, some argue that the penalties are still too lenient. Korea refers to rape as "robbery rape" and follows the principle of presumption of guilt. The 840,000 members of Kakao's women-only Daum official cafe, Yeoseongsidae, who have been implicated in criminal activities for sharing videos containing personal information of minors, have surprisingly received little attention. Insights from Reddit posts have brought to light the site's reputation for unlawfully distributing facial and nude photos, as well as personal details like addresses and names. This underscores the crucial need for direct permission from the operator to join. Notably,The exposure of this information didn't stem from formal reports but rather surfaced through disclosures on Reddit, where a former USFK member revealed the situation. The Kakao official cafe gained public attention for the first time due to its association with the former President Moon Jae-in's Democratic Party, which had close ties to the police chief who overlooked the Burning Sun scandal. Consequently, Korean media outlets like '뉴데일리' refrained from reporting on it, showing deference to the party's influence. However, it wasn't until the recent revelation of the site's criminal activities by the US military personnel that it was first brought to light. If you look at the on the site and you can show what information is being shared, they secretly filmed a minor wearing a school uniform and commented on it, saying, "he has a pretty genitals," "The face and nude photos are cute who is 17 so perfect as a sexual plaything." This crime is pubilcized for the first time in medias and newspapers because United States Forces were also recently targeted. ## Overview of the Training Recruit Torture and Murder Incident A significant point of focus in this incident is South Korea's policy of promoting civilian women to officers in the military through a quota system. This female officer, who had never seen sunlight and had extremely fair skin, imposed additional heavy burdens on the recruit and failed to take appropriate medical measures even as his health deteriorated severely. This incident tragically involves the death of a recruit due to torture during military training. ### Incident Process 1. **Recruit A Enlistment**: - Recruit A enlisted in the military. - Recruit A had been in the military for only 9 days. 2. **Excessive Burden and Torture**: - Despite already carrying a heavy military pack weighing approximately 40kg, Officer B forced Recruit A to carry an even heavier load. - As a result, Recruit A's health deteriorated significantly, and despite requests for help from fellow recruits, Officer B ignored them. 3. **Tragic Outcome**: - Due to the excessive burden and torture, Recruit A eventually died. - Subsequently, Officer B attempted to cover up the incident, but it was exposed due to efforts from medical institutions and military officials. ### Controversial Elements 1. **Gender Disparity in Punishment**: - Many people criticize the fact that Officer B, as the perpetrator, received not even an arrest or investigation but instead a month-long vacation supposedly for mental stability, solely because she is a woman. However, South Korean women in their 20s and 30s tend to distort this as a "Chosun Dynasty exile measure" and implicitly support the perpetrator due to her gender. - Politicians are wary of the response from young female voters and have thus faced criticism for not handling the incident appropriately. Given the significant political influence of women in South Korean society, it is important for women to bravely report such incidents to the media. However, currently, very few Korean women have come forward with this incident to the press. Seoul National University's Happiness Research Center and Kakao Geachi jointly conducted and published the "ABOUT H: South Korea Happiness Report 2019" (21st Century Books) on the 9th. Professor Choi In-cheol and the research team from Seoul National University's Happiness Research Center also held a press conference at Gwanghwamun Vertex Korea on the same day. The survey targeted 1.05 million people over the past year, accumulating a total of 2.27 million records due to the possibility of duplicate responses. The research team and publishers claimed it to be the world's first and largest "national happiness research project." According to the survey findings, women in their 20s and 30s exhibited the highest levels of materialism, the lowest gratitude index (degree of felt gratitude), and the highest prevalence of neurosis (emotional anxiety). They also showed a high tendency to compare themselves with others. Professor Choi stated, "The answer to gender differences lies in neurosis. Women in their 20s and 30s showed the highest tendency towards neurosis," adding, "Women in their 20s and 30s also had the lowest levels of gratitude. Therefore, they exhibit a heightened sense of victimization, mistrust towards others, and a significantly increased likelihood of explosive and aggressive behavior even with minor stressors.

[@pruitv4]

yes thank you for protecting criminals and use innocent celebrities as scapegoats.

[@meia002]

@@pruitv4 LOL "innocent celebrities" he will never pick you no matter what. If you want, you can go to Cambodia and try to get in the club he's building. Maybe you have a chance there to live out your delulu. My ass is more innocent than him. You disgust me.

[@legumiiii]

As a korean woman, I feel so ashamed of our own government. 2 year sentence? It is just ridiculous. No wonder why women in Korea do not want to have children. The country is only gonna get worse if the government don’t change the system and laws.

[@Smithjones12]

It happens all over the world,you don't need to be ashamed, the guilty are the ones who should be ashamed. ❤️

[@emillies8814]

But it’s still shameful. Why do they only get a small sentence. Goes for all the other countries that do this

[@Smithjones12]

@@emillies8814 corrupt system run by corrupt people.

[@strawberryhamzcheese]

Cannot agree anymore. Why the law system in Korea always be so easy for criminals? It makes them not to be scared being criminal, especially when they are rich.

[@ektasolanki848]

I'm just worried for women in S. Korea. If the government is actually blind to women's issues then they might eventually force someway, to have kids. Because the country cant handle labor shortage. I request all S Korean women to not have kids. and if you can, please migrate to better countries.

[@suzyq4183]

Reporter Kang is a warrior, she deserves to be thanked, not trolled.

[@liezeldelapena4149]

Being a feminist is not a crime. For those who have been abused, I hope you find the courage to speak up. You are not alone in this; you deserve justice.

[@sarahfitarony2627]

And get well for physical and metal health

[@sarahfitarony2627]

And also if the victims feel comfortable to speak up, it should have a documentary

[@speakupyt4900]

It was only bad YG artist's isolated problem, so don't ignorantly generalize the entire Korean music industry!

[@vamppanic]

@@speakupyt4900the entire industry is inherently abusive and exploitative despite how idols are made to appear by their managers, so yes i will paint the entire industry by the same brush

[@Ana-jb8du]

​@@speakupyt4900you're even commenting this same copy paste shit under a post that wishes well to women who went through assault. Is this really the focus here? How much more brain dead could you even be?