Burning Sun: Exposing the secret K-pop chat groups - BBC World Service Documentaries

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@yumyummy3478
@yumyummy3478 7 ай бұрын
it took me a while to understand what is molka is. After some time I remembered that is short version of hidden camera in Korean. I wish it was explained. I think victims and witnesses voices should've been changed and their silhouette should've been covered better. I also wished there were more details about investigation process and Korean law system. Overall thank you for all brave ppl that stood up for victims and spoke up about this in documentary. I hope few delusional fans watch this documentary and wake up. Also thank you for covering this case.
@ごん-l4c
@ごん-l4c 7 ай бұрын
Could you please add Japanese subtitles? I would like to avoid the risk of amateurs adding subtitles full of mistakes and spreading distorted information.
@dddi1476
@dddi1476 7 ай бұрын
Indonesian translate please
@natymiltonfr4889
@natymiltonfr4889 7 ай бұрын
Agradecería traducción al español.. creo que todos deberían poder saber que sucedió en este caso
@낭만닥터-o8g
@낭만닥터-o8g 7 ай бұрын
Goo Hara died after being attacked by malicious comments from most Korean men.
@rosezerose
@rosezerose 7 ай бұрын
The fact that people cancel idols who date or smoke but not literal rapists. This is what our world has become? Totally disgusting.
@migspeculates
@migspeculates 7 ай бұрын
don't expect too much from Generation Zombie
@dontknowhersry1214
@dontknowhersry1214 7 ай бұрын
@@migspeculates Excuse me? Don't expect too much from the generation that is actively boycotting and protesting abt a genocide? What kind of uninformed opinion is that. A lot of the people that are defending these idols are either korean or are just plain blinded by their "idols". Do not bring generations into this discussion when it has nothing to do with it.
@bubbainc-k6u
@bubbainc-k6u 7 ай бұрын
@@migspeculatesbruh let’s not act like previous generations didn’t do the exact same shit 😂 meat riding fans are gonna keep being meat riding fans no matter what
@thulasibai6136
@thulasibai6136 7 ай бұрын
I remember grown-up korean women sent trucks to a boy group for having female dancers.Also a Kpop idol's kid received deathreates.But for problematic idols,no trucks or no planes.Mindset of this people is disgusting.
@irinepineda6063
@irinepineda6063 7 ай бұрын
​@@migspeculatesayan nanaman ang isang pinoy na binibring up ang gen z kahit wala namang kinalaman sa topic
@sarahjiiens
@sarahjiiens 7 ай бұрын
Some said that this was released 5 years too late, but I firmly believe this dropped just in time. Just when people were about to forgive and forget... just when these criminals were about to enjoy their lives again as if nothing happened. It's the right time to be reminded of how hideous this crime was.
@Ichigo_1026
@Ichigo_1026 7 ай бұрын
💯
@vitrians
@vitrians 7 ай бұрын
Agree
@juichijoo
@juichijoo 7 ай бұрын
agreed. even better if the media keeps on coming out stuff like this every year to remind the public of the heinous crimes. let us not forget and stay vigilant!
@denishavail1773
@denishavail1773 7 ай бұрын
*cough* seungri *cough"
@slowvideo
@slowvideo 7 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@mademoiselleabir9659
@mademoiselleabir9659 7 ай бұрын
Losing your children because of some rapist's fans is insane... I feel deeply sorry for the first journalist
@ting-ting7001
@ting-ting7001 7 ай бұрын
I remember when she was investigating this. His label protected him back in 2016.
@user46421
@user46421 7 ай бұрын
@@ting-ting7001 What was his label?
@lyniel9017
@lyniel9017 7 ай бұрын
​@@user46421 YG obviously
@ting-ting7001
@ting-ting7001 7 ай бұрын
@@user46421He has the same label as Younha, who is an amazing singer and has collab-ed with Epik High. I don’t remember what the label was.
@digital_diaries_Hana
@digital_diaries_Hana 6 ай бұрын
Ikr it wasn’t just one but two miscarriages and she’s childless breaks my heart
@amileopard
@amileopard 4 ай бұрын
I can't believe the guy said if what we did was a crime then all korean men are guilty. This is very telling of the type of society korean women have to live in.
@Khymeira
@Khymeira 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, that guy said the quiet part out loud
@DivinaVallega-r4x
@DivinaVallega-r4x 12 күн бұрын
Not all korean or all men are rapist 😢😢😢 lile you and ur friend🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
@user-nz8gr7em6o
@user-nz8gr7em6o 11 күн бұрын
And they wonder why their birth rates are plummeting. As a woman i often think, who wants to birth a life into that society where they treat women like this?
@pineapplebuncat6618
@pineapplebuncat6618 4 күн бұрын
Korean women are mtfkrs anyway
@miapdx503
@miapdx503 2 күн бұрын
Here in the States, we have a president elect who's a sexual predator. They want to normalize his vile behavior...what a dangerous message this sends. What a slap in the face to survivors everywhere. 😞
@_jamrocks
@_jamrocks 7 ай бұрын
I felt bad for the first journalist who broke the scandal. She lost her two babies just because of those blind fans.
@ohbiteme
@ohbiteme 7 ай бұрын
Yeah :(((
@YZRgKABUDLLu5TIajIShDw
@YZRgKABUDLLu5TIajIShDw 7 ай бұрын
not only because of those blind fans but also and mostly because of anti feminist men
@tk-hu6yw
@tk-hu6yw 7 ай бұрын
@@ANIMEDROIDLblame the victims of course
@ellyella6500
@ellyella6500 7 ай бұрын
How she lost 2 babies?
@kaiijjune9112
@kaiijjune9112 7 ай бұрын
​@@ellyella6500Watch the full video
@stargazer6852
@stargazer6852 7 ай бұрын
I think Seungri serving only 18 months shows us how little women are respected and protected by the law.
@ethereal_moon888
@ethereal_moon888 7 ай бұрын
Lo peor es que todavía tiene "fans" que lo apoyan
@stargazer6852
@stargazer6852 7 ай бұрын
@@ethereal_moon888 I sometimes wonder what's inside those people's mind, how exactly do they function to still be fans after all of that
@justmytwocentsdontgetmad
@justmytwocentsdontgetmad 7 ай бұрын
South Korea's extremely lax laws protecting women from physical and sexual assault is just dumbfounding. Worse, their government sees nothing wrong with it. All that economic and technological growth over the years, but the country's social norms are stuck in the Dark Ages.
@acetheist3932
@acetheist3932 7 ай бұрын
More like the judicial system is incredibly easy to manipulate in the favour of rich and powerful people.
@stargazer6852
@stargazer6852 7 ай бұрын
@@acetheist3932 Yes🙌
@katchanii
@katchanii 7 ай бұрын
The fact that seungri only got 18 months and is a free man makes my blood boil. Put that man behind bars!!
@ilovebaking-v2v
@ilovebaking-v2v 7 ай бұрын
Just a question, doesn't Korea have death penalty ? Did it never have one ?
@hanseekers9276
@hanseekers9276 7 ай бұрын
It's just that there's no proof that seungri involve in SA and molka. He just provided the mean and place for other predator to capture their victims. But that on itself is a serious crime, 18 months is to little of a punishment
@CHEEZE369
@CHEEZE369 7 ай бұрын
@@ilovebaking-v2vI don't think so
@TPKN
@TPKN 7 ай бұрын
While in Vietnam an old lady who is Bitcoin scammer got the death penalty, Korea laws are BS
@kneenie9490
@kneenie9490 7 ай бұрын
👏Right!
@danip2476
@danip2476 4 ай бұрын
Is anyone else thinking how many other Kpop idols are like this behind the scenes? So scary
@Queenofskill
@Queenofskill 3 ай бұрын
Exactly, it’s horrifying. There’s lots of people after the Taeil thing saying we should never idolize idols like they’re saints. so I hope people from now on know to not blindly follow whoever, just like how Seungri’s fans blindly supported him.
@danip2476
@danip2476 3 ай бұрын
@@Queenofskill it’s so crazy I said this right before the news of Taeil 😭
@Waw4n
@Waw4n 26 күн бұрын
What if other kpop girls experienced it in this generation but not able to talk because they were threatened?
@katyuha555
@katyuha555 24 күн бұрын
​​@@Waw4n look at jang ja yeon, goo hara, sulli and many more
@kiwissu
@kiwissu 21 күн бұрын
no, cause it's not nice assuming the worst in people. not everyone is bad. it's selfish to think that way in my opinion. thsts like someone thinking that about you just cause someone else in your field did something bad that you have no part of and no relations to that person whatsoever
@UngreatfulPunk
@UngreatfulPunk 7 ай бұрын
Calling them trash is disrespectful to the trash.
@mygolconda
@mygolconda 7 ай бұрын
cant agree more!! Those criminals are lesser than a trash or a piece of shxx!
@Dopoqh
@Dopoqh 7 ай бұрын
agree
@rr.aionama
@rr.aionama 7 ай бұрын
At least most trash used to useful at some point
@elenabob4953
@elenabob4953 7 ай бұрын
Oh but Senguri is innocent :). Sure, this is why he was convinced. I find it sickening that even now you see comments supporting him.
@vrealtaewife534
@vrealtaewife534 7 ай бұрын
Even trash is still more valuable than Seungri, Junyoung and Choi
@paulinam1280
@paulinam1280 7 ай бұрын
6 years?? 2 years?? for a GANG R4PE??? that sounds awfully short for the irreparable damage they caused to that woman.
@Death_by_Kim_Yoohyeon
@Death_by_Kim_Yoohyeon 7 ай бұрын
Their law system is extremely different than western countries. Worst part is if you do a sentence which is less than , i think was 1.5 years /2 years you actually dont have a criminal record...
@daze7465
@daze7465 7 ай бұрын
u get around the same sentence for smoking weed which is insane…
@kaelthunderhoof5619
@kaelthunderhoof5619 7 ай бұрын
Nah, our law here in Philippines is if rape it's life imprisonment
@sleepyearth
@sleepyearth 7 ай бұрын
Korean lawmakers think women deserve even less if not for a fact that they are scared of the backlash.
@mammonsimp6973
@mammonsimp6973 7 ай бұрын
I remember my friend was drunk and got sexually harassed, the police said it was her fault wearing skirt cuz the man is drunk and didn't know anything. She went straight to home after that and never go back to s. Korea afterwards
@Panellope
@Panellope 7 ай бұрын
I don't understand how an alledged bullying scandal could end an idols career but not this ACTUAL CRIME
@redbloomings7523
@redbloomings7523 7 ай бұрын
LIKE SOOJIN😢😢😢 i hope she’s doing well she’s so beautiful
@Janalyien
@Janalyien 7 ай бұрын
@@redbloomings7523she just had a comeback with Mona Lisa 🎀
@ahha6304
@ahha6304 7 ай бұрын
easy, the head prosecutor back in that time is now, ahem cough cough, I can't say it without diplomatic conflictions or getting sued by the government, but you could guess right now I believe
@polandi4057
@polandi4057 7 ай бұрын
@@redbloomings7523 South Korea really hates women...
@ladynikkie
@ladynikkie 7 ай бұрын
Corruption in the industry and law enforcement these people can practically buy their way out of a crime that's the problem
@Plaf__
@Plaf__ 4 ай бұрын
I cried watching this. I don't have words. I'm beyond furious, frustrated, I hate this injustice. I hate how men can do stuff like this without being punished, how they have 0 empathy and will never get to feel the pain they inflected. I hate this world, only knowing there is still good people around us is what keeps my hope.
@My_aelisa
@My_aelisa 4 ай бұрын
It's like you wrote my thoughts, I also feel very frustrated about this injustice.
@graceababan
@graceababan 7 ай бұрын
The fact that the 1st reporter had 2 miscarriages due to the backlash of reporting the truth makes my blood boil. These online people hiding behind keyboards are murderers
@aparnarajesh
@aparnarajesh 7 ай бұрын
my heart break for her and i blame those fans and trolls need to jail
@rebeccaavoca9143
@rebeccaavoca9143 7 ай бұрын
they caused the death of the late "Parasite" actor too ..
@rod1320
@rod1320 7 ай бұрын
It’s crazy to me that they were harassing the person simply revealing what was happening and protecting the sick and twisted men committing these atrocious acts. What is going on in these sickos’ minds?!
@rod1320
@rod1320 7 ай бұрын
@@rebeccaavoca9143 that case is more complicated. The netizens weren’t alone in pushing him to his death. The women who framed him and, most importantly, the police leaking and twisting information about him and the questioning he underwent are mainly to blame. Netizens went along with the trash they were given and overreacted, as usual. However, had the police not fed him to the wolves, in an effort to cover up the political scandal, the man would still be alive today. They’re the true guilty parties in this, he was targeted by the police, along with other celebrities.
@g.mendoza8138
@g.mendoza8138 7 ай бұрын
@@rod1320 It is a reflection of them
@rem0375
@rem0375 7 ай бұрын
never trust your idols. they’re simply celebrities, they’re not your friends and they’re not the people you might think they are
@GreenGretel
@GreenGretel 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely. Celebrity culture feels especially dangerous these days, with the way the internet enables and encourages the parasocial dynamic. People are so quick to trust in the images these strangers show them, and then to reflexively deny or get defensive, even fanatical, when new information emerges that could throw said image into question. You. do. not. know. these. celebs. Never forget that, people. In my life, I've been surprised by what people are capable of behind closed doors even from certain individuals I _did_ know personally. The idiotic arrogance and naivete to assume that you could ever intimately know and vouch for the character of someone you have no personal relationship with boggles the mind...
@user-jy3ux5iy5f
@user-jy3ux5iy5f 7 ай бұрын
Korean men are much kinder than men from European countries.🖕🏻
@SJ98
@SJ98 7 ай бұрын
Yeah this documentary shows that...truth is hard to digest 😏​@@user-jy3ux5iy5f
@212MAY
@212MAY 7 ай бұрын
That goes for anyone, even your family members and neighbors.
@Rosa-sh3nm
@Rosa-sh3nm 7 ай бұрын
​@@212MAY but at least easy to find the true colors of your family members or neighbors by paying attention to the lifetime detail, cause they are living around you. But not with celebrity. Media makes them look super freakin good like an angel many times
@wstriaflwr
@wstriaflwr 7 ай бұрын
imagine you got traumatized for your whole life while the one who got you traumatized only punished for a few years...
@urmum8177
@urmum8177 7 ай бұрын
or 18 months even🤡
@saijka1287
@saijka1287 7 ай бұрын
I dont get it! How can they be free?? And what about all those other men, those VIP's No one knows who they are. This is so sick im shooked.
@Snshwwh
@Snshwwh 7 ай бұрын
The rest are presidents of large Chinese companies.
@jujoonline8248
@jujoonline8248 7 ай бұрын
@@saijka1287the vip‘s in burning sun should have been recorded on a public list like the people in the n-th chatrooms!
@jungmeny6515
@jungmeny6515 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, and it was a cause in korea when old men stole eggs when there was no food in the covid pandemic, and the police gave him 8 to 10 years in prison.
@lilbabybiik5749
@lilbabybiik5749 12 күн бұрын
Fame is not a valid excuse to disrespect anyone. I can’t imagine the shame of your elders.
@imalone7794
@imalone7794 7 ай бұрын
The fact that Go Hara played a big part in saving these girls
@YzahZenCasabuena
@YzahZenCasabuena 7 ай бұрын
rip go hara
@Ok-ky6rz
@Ok-ky6rz 7 ай бұрын
Now hyuna makes my blood boil. Pathetic. I pray even my enemy shouldn’t get a friend like her.
@lynnn3537
@lynnn3537 7 ай бұрын
Rest in peace Goo Hara
@lamoskgr
@lamoskgr 7 ай бұрын
My heart will always break for her. She was such a strong person❤
@admyok7197
@admyok7197 7 ай бұрын
Why?
@moonandstars2270
@moonandstars2270 7 ай бұрын
The fact that Seungri is planning to open another club shows that he learned nothing from those 18 months , pure evil.
@__yussra
@__yussra 7 ай бұрын
probably because it’s only 18 months. He thinks he got away because he’s above the law and he will continue with his ways until this is properly sorted.
@Pauline-nm6cu
@Pauline-nm6cu 7 ай бұрын
That man is the devil…
@supernovalass
@supernovalass 7 ай бұрын
I googled about it after reading your comment. It's unbelievable that this monster held a fan meeting. In today's world of the internet, no one has the excuse that they didn't know about him and hence went there. There are idiots who think feminism is wrong but will cheer for and support these pests. I can't imagine what the victims feel when they see him free and enjoying his life once again.
@BethChen-d6y
@BethChen-d6y 7 ай бұрын
What a joke!! There is no Justice in South Korea.
@somyachauhan499
@somyachauhan499 7 ай бұрын
@@supernovalass wth i knew about the club opening and hosting in malaysia but fan meeting??????
@summerhood1208
@summerhood1208 7 ай бұрын
2 miscarriages and their country is still questioning the low fertility rate when the government can't take care women in their country
@__yussra
@__yussra 7 ай бұрын
exactly
@孝欽顯皇后葉赫那拉氏
@孝欽顯皇后葉赫那拉氏 3 ай бұрын
Actually, those issues are common among the three states in East Asia.
@SmthAbout.Money.SmellsLikeLove
@SmthAbout.Money.SmellsLikeLove 24 күн бұрын
I hope it stays that way. They have no respect for women! The laws need to change the fact that u can be longer in prison for weed then rape IS INSANE!
@0User_R
@0User_R 14 күн бұрын
💯
@DreamseedVR
@DreamseedVR 18 сағат бұрын
She shouldnt of stayed on the case, the stress was a real risk she took.
@terripatey311
@terripatey311 15 күн бұрын
The reporter is my hero! This woman deserves so very much recognition and support! 😇🤯❤💜🙌👏💯
@manson_studio
@manson_studio 7 ай бұрын
"She succeeded in protecting us, but we failed to protect her".. farewell Goo Hara, REST IN LOVE 🥀
@elvierobin477
@elvierobin477 7 ай бұрын
Her Mom is absolutely garbage for trying to claim her inheritance Mind you her mom abandoned her
@daves-w6j
@daves-w6j 7 ай бұрын
Someone please save this country, 80% of us Korean women experience domestic violence. If things continue like this, the number of suicides will increase 😢
@nnnn-sc2im
@nnnn-sc2im 7 ай бұрын
@@user-jy3ux5iy5fbecause the case hasn’t been closed there’s still a lot of speculation going on
@addylovesyou1960
@addylovesyou1960 7 ай бұрын
This broke my heart 💔💔💔
@YasmineYasmine-n9m
@YasmineYasmine-n9m 7 ай бұрын
@@user-jy3ux5iy5f crime is crime
@시고르자브종1217
@시고르자브종1217 7 ай бұрын
I am a woman in my twenties from Korea, and I logged in with a secondary account to write this comment. This is because I am a feminist and have been hiding it. If it becomes known that I wrote this comment, I risk being fired from my job. Furthermore, I could even receive death threats. Watching this video and seeing countless comments from women around the world, I could not help but join in. Please help spread the reality of Korea. We needed an outlet like this. For several years, I have been consistently reporting to foreign media. Korea currently shows no signs of change and is a society that feels like hell. The birth rate and suicide rate in Korea reflect this.
@시고르자브종1217
@시고르자브종1217 7 ай бұрын
* The translation might be inaccurate
@queenofpents3442
@queenofpents3442 7 ай бұрын
Dont worry. You are fine. Your identity will not be exposed. No one in these comments want to ruin someone's life we just want the lives of women to matter to S. Korean society! We want justice even though it won't happen. A lot of these comments are from foreigners who believe in equality. Good for you to join us.
@imaneb4938
@imaneb4938 7 ай бұрын
That's horrible. I didn't know Korea was such a bad place for women. They are acting like it's a crime to be a woman and want to be treated with respect. I'm sorry you have to go through this. I'm sending you courage and support from Europe!
@amber588
@amber588 7 ай бұрын
thank you so much for sharing. I never knew that this was the culture of Korea? never would of thought it. sounds horrible. what do you think would bring around change? it sounds like such a deeply ingrained problem. I hope you manage to see some equality in your life-time. :(
@soniafiochi
@soniafiochi 7 ай бұрын
Que situação horrível vocês mulheres vivem nesse País espero que você fique bem. ❤️‍🩹 ❤🇧🇷
@hyoyeonsliver
@hyoyeonsliver 7 ай бұрын
the fact that ALL of these men are now roaming free today is a representation of how fucked the korean justice system is. i hope all the victims find peace.
@RD0502
@RD0502 7 ай бұрын
I still cannot wrap my head after watching In the name of God - a holy betrayal ( Netflix). These Ajhussis are sick as hell!
@AramasG
@AramasG 7 ай бұрын
Yup you get more time for smoking weed and the fact that you get a more lenient sentence if you commit a crime whilst intoxicated, is just absolutely nuts! Their justice system is a joke.
@preciouslyunhinged
@preciouslyunhinged 7 ай бұрын
That's scary
@preciouslyunhinged
@preciouslyunhinged 7 ай бұрын
​@@RD0502I heard the podcast on yt abt it..😳...some.peaple are f-d up,its scary
@Poemingty
@Poemingty 7 ай бұрын
The worst is most justice systems are the same
@cheskagrifaldo8188
@cheskagrifaldo8188 4 ай бұрын
Who's back here after the "taeil case"
@word-w4c
@word-w4c 4 ай бұрын
me
@marlioliveira5519
@marlioliveira5519 4 ай бұрын
Me.
@MarketaHornikova
@MarketaHornikova 4 ай бұрын
Me
@hneysip7845
@hneysip7845 4 ай бұрын
Wrong case you guys
@swagatikasahoo1531
@swagatikasahoo1531 4 ай бұрын
Then did Sulli and Go-Hara committed suicide bcoz of the burning sun case??
@pyrleo5045
@pyrleo5045 7 ай бұрын
This documentary came out perfectly because Jung Joonyoung is free. He’s planning to leave South Korea and continue to work as a producer as if nothing happened. This is a good reminder. Seungri is already partying.
@ting-ting7001
@ting-ting7001 7 ай бұрын
We gotta make this Documentary viral. It’s perfect that he’s the face of the documentary.
@leecox6241
@leecox6241 7 ай бұрын
This will follow him wherever he goes on the planet!
@jesjes4627
@jesjes4627 7 ай бұрын
Seungri is seen going on holiday and party in Bali like nothing happened. I feel so disgusted
@Deeeedlicious
@Deeeedlicious 7 ай бұрын
I saw on twitter that Seungri is in talks or smth to open up a club in Hong Kong? Truly insane....
@anmolpatel5370
@anmolpatel5370 7 ай бұрын
It's disgusting I've heard Seungri is opening another club in Cambodia as well when he should be banned from further business. I hope more people are informed with this release and pressure gets applied so there are heavier sentences. This should never be forgotten, nor forgiven by the public because the victims will forever be traumatized while they (all the people involved) just view it as a stain on their reputation and get to move on when they've committed inhumane, evil acts without remorse and found pleasure in it. Please continue to support this documentary, everyone else covering this story, and all the victims as it is not easy to speak up against well-connected, rich people.
@clarkentm
@clarkentm 7 ай бұрын
"if Seungri's kakaotalk from 3 years ago are crimes then aren't all Korean men criminals" THIS QUOTE IS EXTREMELY ALARMING.
@saheefariaz
@saheefariaz 7 ай бұрын
What exactly does it mean?
@Ing_ing_22
@Ing_ing_22 7 ай бұрын
@@saheefariazIf Seungri is punished for what he said on KakaoTalk, it means that all men in Korea are guilty. In other words, it is a sentence that expresses that all men in Korea say and do that kind of things.
@saheefariaz
@saheefariaz 7 ай бұрын
@@Ing_ing_22 oh. Thats why it doesnt seem like a big deal to these pathetic beings.
@saheefariaz
@saheefariaz 7 ай бұрын
@@Ing_ing_22wow What a great way to say that "we are all sexist a**holes" and objectifying women is a norm. They should be embarrased and guilty to say such things instead of saying it so proudly.
@cindynjoh2896
@cindynjoh2896 7 ай бұрын
@@Ing_ing_22 I will add that they things it’s actually a normal thing to do because all the man in Korea do that so why are we blame for it
@crankynutcase
@crankynutcase 7 ай бұрын
What's worse is how many 'fans' are still cheering for these people..
@umalikas1
@umalikas1 7 ай бұрын
Ikr?! I don't get it, I've read about actors and idols being cancelled for the most ridiculous reasons and here's Seungri and friends still being supported by their fans and living their lives like old times.
@justfortoday1234
@justfortoday1234 7 ай бұрын
Exactly. I am a fan of a Kpop band myself but really don't understand this type of fan behavior. Crime is a crime.
@elainelindsey1306
@elainelindsey1306 7 ай бұрын
Some kpop stans have a cult mentality, when they attack online they ask other members to join in. It's sad music is supposed to be enjoyed but some kpop stans and Fandom treat it like it's a full time job, they need help with there obsessive behavior
@Nanda_ares
@Nanda_ares 7 ай бұрын
They're in denial. Some of them said he didn't do any of that, he's just getting dragged......like wtf
@bangballs
@bangballs 7 ай бұрын
Kpop fans are truly mentally challenged 😂😂
@katrinahohmann9671
@katrinahohmann9671 9 күн бұрын
I cannot believe they got such low sentences.
@Felizneverbad
@Felizneverbad 7 ай бұрын
I'm a high school girl in Korea. First of all, I'm truly,sincerely grateful that bbc brought this up because If I raise questions about these kinds of issues at school, I'm branded a thumping piggy feminist, an "emotional disorder." I shed tears of unknown reason when I saw comments from foreigners who said they would listen to this and stand in solidarity. Thank you very much. When this incident broke out, Korea was quiet. When Room N broke out (a case in which 260,000 Korean men watched a video clip in which a caterpillar was placed on a video device sexually assaulting elementary, middle, and high school and adult women my age), Korean men exaggerated the incident, saying that the women in the video also 'enjoyed' it. The mastermind of this nightmare was sentenced to 40 years in prison, and the person who disclosed their personal information about the criminals in anger was sentenced to two years in prison. Three years later, just yesterday, a group of male students from Seoul National University, the nation's most prestigious university, posted illegal compounds of 60 women from their alumni and enjoyed watching them in more than 200 chat rooms. Another man from a prestigious medical school killed his girlfriend, who told him to break up at the same school. Even though women are being sexually assaulted and killed every day in this land, the media keeps silent about the demonstration of a female nursery teacher who has no motherhood, and Korean men treat me as if it is the only big deal. It is a sense of victimization. Women also enjoy watching children's play, but they cover up the case, saying, "Isn't it the female version of Room N?" I cannot comment on these issues at school. That is why I desperately need your attention and solidarity. please Don't believe what they say in K-drama. I hope women take care of yourself and stay safe.
@brishanna5927
@brishanna5927 7 ай бұрын
Sending love and support ❤
@user-xl1tf2ej1x
@user-xl1tf2ej1x 7 ай бұрын
No u r a chinese cause u kept saying n번방 case. When n번방 case brokeout whole nation criticize them Don't say lies
@zoomyplayer1932
@zoomyplayer1932 7 ай бұрын
I live in Korea and can see the way women are treated here. I agree with everything you said. Sending love.
@user-xl1tf2ej1x
@user-xl1tf2ej1x 7 ай бұрын
Don't lie. When burningsun first came out all of korean really criticise about this. Just care about your country
@curr.y9895
@curr.y9895 7 ай бұрын
Sending love and support, thank you for speaking up
@isabelarozario6937
@isabelarozario6937 7 ай бұрын
Hara had nothing to gain by helping the reporter. She only did this because she enpathized with the victims. South Korean netizens didn't deserve her. She is a true hero in this case along with the reporters. Rest easy, Hara.
@jamoh7832
@jamoh7832 7 ай бұрын
May she rest in paradise 🖤🖤💕
@skyward7903
@skyward7903 7 ай бұрын
She was a selfless hero. That angel is not with us right now while these devils walk the earth freely makes me sick!
@mysteriotherme
@mysteriotherme 7 ай бұрын
It makes me tear up thinking that she's not alive anymore to know this.
@aparnarajesh
@aparnarajesh 7 ай бұрын
The way they cyberbullying her also sulli, Choi Jin Shil, jonghyun also others and seungri's former bandmates top and gdragon made mistakes in the past but they got bashed while seungri was freed as victims are suffering
@isabelarozario6937
@isabelarozario6937 7 ай бұрын
​@@aparnarajesh Exactly it's sickening to see how they bully celebs who have never done anything nearly as bad as seungri
@benicebecool5358
@benicebecool5358 7 ай бұрын
I was surprised to see BBC release it now. But after connecting all the events, this is perfect timing. Jung was released from prison and mentioned that he misses his fame of being a singer. SeungRi bought expensive mansion in HongKong and planning to open a night club. They are acting like nothing happened. This documentary is a reminder that they are not human and their sentence was nothing.
@ting-ting7001
@ting-ting7001 7 ай бұрын
Money Seungri made after running his trafficking scheme from Burning Sun…
@Freepalestine2024_-.6
@Freepalestine2024_-.6 7 ай бұрын
the fact that they can just go back like nothing happened while the victims have to live with the burden is disgusting .
@mamelod3022
@mamelod3022 7 ай бұрын
Him planning to open a night club makes me very nervous, cuz everything is in his hands and he can easily hide anything he wants in there.
@ngndnd
@ngndnd 7 ай бұрын
@@mamelod3022it makes me mad af. That he can just go back to living the same life just because he is rich. If he had learned his lesson he would live a quiet life instead but now he knows that the law will favor him instead since he is rich
@NadiaBlythe-h7w
@NadiaBlythe-h7w 7 ай бұрын
when ppl comment the issues like this one, they always tend to turn on the victims rather than the criminals.What a shame!!!
@WillBlindYouWithLight
@WillBlindYouWithLight 18 күн бұрын
Happened to me in highschool, the guy couldn't take rejection. Took me 25 years to say that out loud and try to move on. I can't imagine what they went through. They were laughed at and mocked for telling the truth, which is what happens in this world. The truth is never welcomed, especially if it blocks any of those people the truth is against from money, attention, luxury. I'm very sad to hear that Harra is gone. She was such a hero
@soparkin
@soparkin 7 ай бұрын
the FACT that she was so stressed she got 2 miscarriages and yet she still persisted to endure for the good of the larger party…so much respect
@khush...30
@khush...30 7 ай бұрын
She literally is a superwoman 🦸‍♀️
@terra-xoxo
@terra-xoxo 7 ай бұрын
​@@user-jy3ux5iy5f Here comes the mysogynist Korean man who treats women like s*x toys
@국순당-c8g
@국순당-c8g 7 ай бұрын
Watch out for Korean men. Every day, news of countless killings of Korean women, animal abuse, and sex crimes come up. Feminist in Korea If you shout, your job will be cut off and your identity will be revealed, making you a mockery. I am korean woman. I want to get married, but I chose a non-marriageist because my life is important I like children. However, Korea is a dangerous country to raise children. Korean men do not care for the weak. Even if you commit sexual assault on a child, you don't go to jail or come out in a year
@국순당-c8g
@국순당-c8g 7 ай бұрын
Korean men are not considerate of the weak. Korean women are very surprised when they visit abroad. This is because foreign men help carry heavy luggage on the stairs. This is impossible in Korea. In Korea, pregnant women's seats on subways or buses are all occupied by Korean men. I'm not lying
@csenegirl414
@csenegirl414 7 ай бұрын
she's a hero.
@mrecury
@mrecury 7 ай бұрын
Korean men having a laugh with this documentary is exactly why Korean woman are refusing to have a relationship with them.
@woOkieKG
@woOkieKG 7 ай бұрын
ur just a troll that is using this documentary to simply get your personal jealousy and hate out against Korean men. Just because they can get the Korean girls you are obsessed about more easily while you are getting rejected by the one korean girl near you, doesn't make it okay for you to use this important documentary to simply make dumb statements like this. Korean women are not refusing to have a relationship with Korean men... lmfao. I think all women don't want to have a relationship with any rapist and abusive man. Go read a book lil bro
@impossiblww
@impossiblww 7 ай бұрын
아줌마 또 거짓말치네 어휴 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@cuffmeincorporated
@cuffmeincorporated 7 ай бұрын
@@impossiblww 당신은 사랑받은 적이 없습니다
@nguyenquynhanh2807
@nguyenquynhanh2807 7 ай бұрын
@@impossiblwwglass boy afraid to be broken by women boo hooo 🥱
@MegaLuckyLeafy
@MegaLuckyLeafy 7 ай бұрын
@@impossiblwwyou’re a disgusting devil
@louisaemordi1234
@louisaemordi1234 7 ай бұрын
Mind you these men still have fans defending them on twitter. How embarrassing.
@banzziinga
@banzziinga 7 ай бұрын
they still do which is crazy to me, you go under bb's mvs and you'll be shocked to see fans still idolizing these absolute piece of disgrace. im here mentally struck everytime I see a new video talking about burning scandal but I wonder how blind these fans gotta be to still support them and their filthy acts.
@ujung-ahujung-hae7503
@ujung-ahujung-hae7503 6 ай бұрын
thats crazy how people still defend seungri im disgusted
@horanghae1675
@horanghae1675 6 ай бұрын
and they have their own narrative that seungri just got involved not knowing that he's one of the boss.
@shinobu37
@shinobu37 6 ай бұрын
Twitter is not a place a smart and sane person will dwell in.
@benjaminherbl3942
@benjaminherbl3942 6 ай бұрын
@@banzziinga When you say "them" are you refering to Bigbang or Seungri. Bigbang should be kept out of this completely. They warned him several times that the people he hung out with seemed off to them.
@xoxoxo6465
@xoxoxo6465 4 ай бұрын
8 minutes into this video and it makes my skin crawl.
@janiabarrioscervante8285
@janiabarrioscervante8285 7 ай бұрын
I don't understand why they keep calling it prostitution. Most of the victims were blackmailed into it or just plainly unconscious. Name it how it is they were human traffickers and exploiters.
@andreachung8951
@andreachung8951 7 ай бұрын
That's what I thought to myself. If you're a prostitute you still give consent. These girls were drugged and raped.
@OrdinaryApprentice99
@OrdinaryApprentice99 7 ай бұрын
Because everything in the world is about contacts, power and money. If you have enough of these 3 key factors, it won't matter WHAT you do. You will get reduced sentences, reduced convictions and the worst of them all, the media making the general public slowly forget about those horrific incidents to get those artists back making money for the country again. As of today, i think only America has been able to give serious sentences to many many fucked up people. And i mean Life sentences, not these funny 1-6 years for insanely evil acts.
@sw98052
@sw98052 7 ай бұрын
The prostitution that was mentioned in the video was specifically addressing Seungri's case. Where he brings a dozen of Korean Women to his "investment parties". Those girls were aware of their "role", hence were called prostitutes. Now, do we know for sure if they were actually there fully aware they'll be "used" for prostitution? Ofc not. But so far, there's no evidence that they were forced to be there, blackmailed, etc. The molka cases, Jung and Choi, those are the "apes" and blackmailed one. So it's two different scenarios.
@heybros2765
@heybros2765 7 ай бұрын
​@@sw98052why would they resort to knocking them unconscious if they were aware of their "role" then?
@sw98052
@sw98052 7 ай бұрын
@@heybros2765 .... Did you watch the video properly? The prostitution part was a BRIEF part of the video. The Palawan Island one. There's no mention about them being knocked unconsciously on that part. The unconscious women part was during the Burning Sun part for VIP customers and molka by Choi and Jung.
@karaidoido
@karaidoido 7 ай бұрын
Throughout her life, Goo Hara was abandoned by her mother when she was a kid, shamed by men and even haters who were mostly women. She tried to save women she didn't even know, but still got hated. I wish you live happily in heaven now, my miracle Hara.
@tau709
@tau709 7 ай бұрын
RIP Hara
@daves-w6j
@daves-w6j 7 ай бұрын
As a Korean woman, I hate this country's legal system. 80% of Korean women have experienced domestic violence. Domestic violence is legal in South Korea. As a result, the number of Korean women committing suicide is increasing. I want people all over the world to know this fact 😢
@serenityk9907
@serenityk9907 7 ай бұрын
@@daves-w6jI am so sorry to hear this. I had no idea 😢
@user-jy3ux5iy5f
@user-jy3ux5iy5f 7 ай бұрын
BBC propaganda
@r1r1_1.
@r1r1_1. 7 ай бұрын
​@@user-jy3ux5iy5f take this fųcka$$ ragebait somewhere else
@user-dr3yl9ov3d
@user-dr3yl9ov3d 7 ай бұрын
Korean men are mocking this. Please make it more public
@geekyourlikeslulu
@geekyourlikeslulu 7 ай бұрын
yes sk men are mocking the victims, not surprised
@dohmygoodness
@dohmygoodness 7 ай бұрын
They really think this is about men vs women. really really fucked up.
@user-jy3ux5iy5f
@user-jy3ux5iy5f 7 ай бұрын
Korean men are much kinder than men from European countries.🖕🏻
@mariafernandafourniervss
@mariafernandafourniervss 7 ай бұрын
Then people ask why Korean women want to relate, marry, and have children less and less with Korean men.
@Unknown-lq8qw
@Unknown-lq8qw 7 ай бұрын
Where are they mocking? stop generalizing
@anna-mariakiepe7908
@anna-mariakiepe7908 4 ай бұрын
ANYONE ELSE HERE BECAUSE OF TAEIL ... I give my utter and absolute respect to BBC for sharing this, especially right now. Just when people start forgetting and forgiving, they get reminded of these horrible things they did. For the regards of the TAEIL case, it just shows us fans DON'T REALLY KNOW THESE MEN AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE!!!!!!!! Look I can only hope that there is less and less of these things happening but I just don't . Look its just not in Korea its all over the world but it's nice to finally see that behind all the kdramas and Kpop idols the messed up society there is being revealed. Thank you for sharing this, it needs to get more views and more and more people need to become aware of this .
@nellyehab2990
@nellyehab2990 4 ай бұрын
WHAT IF TAEIL WAS WORKING WITH THEM AGAIN BC IN MY HEAD THAT SEEMS BELIEVABLE look here currently every one from that case have been released so what if the whole issue was started again bc of them and taeil is now one of the idols that has joined them I mean it kinda seems believable but also the crime that taeil committed wad with a 11 year old child unlike the crimes that were committed here but they also say that approximately 200 people were in the case that had to do with taeil
@nellyehab2990
@nellyehab2990 4 ай бұрын
Soo I've been thinking and idk but the whole thing seems to line up I mean I am not even an nct fan or anything but the whole case was extremely disgusting and I wasn't able to ignore it so I am trying my best to investigate it and find out who was involved in it and I also hope with my whole heart that the whole case is boges but I already have enough proof to show that infact taeil was included in a sexual crime so this whole thing is just getting more messy but surely this will be showen to the world in the end
@Gu___nyang
@Gu___nyang 7 ай бұрын
As a Korean, I hope this documentary will become more famous so that criminals can't even carry their faces in shame
@marielb.3162
@marielb.3162 7 ай бұрын
I'm from the Dorchester Republic,small island of the Caribbean where Kpop and kdramas are love for so many people people,but no one knows the dark side of kpop.
@ting-ting7001
@ting-ting7001 7 ай бұрын
I found out about this from a cashier working in a bookstore. He told me suddenly his news feed is full of Burning Sun.
@aditikule2482
@aditikule2482 7 ай бұрын
I wish, your hope be fulfilled. I've shared it with my frnds, who are follower of k-pop
@RenaA-mu2ki
@RenaA-mu2ki 7 ай бұрын
840,000 Korean women have organized a community site called Women's Age to create sexual harassment and sexual exploitation against U.S. military men and young Korean men to share illegal videos with each other. However, they are not being punished. The BBC is hoping to take up the issue and 840,000 sex offenders will be severely punished. 84만 명의 한국 여성들이 미군 남성들과 한국 청년 남성들을 대상으로 성희롱과 성 착취를 만들어 'Women's Age (여성시대)'라는 커뮤니티 사이트를 조직하여 서로 불법 동영상을 공유하고 있다. 그러나 그들은 처벌을 받지 않고 있다. BBC가 그 문제를 다루기를 희망하고 있고 84만 명의 성범죄자들이 엄벌에 처해졌으면 한다.
@sherrypeng-ev6vz
@sherrypeng-ev6vz 7 ай бұрын
the present situation is the criminals are still active -like bigbang Seungri
@Xogus_2v
@Xogus_2v 7 ай бұрын
As a Korean woman, just reading all these comments warms up my heart. Most feminist voices in Korea are easily ignored/devalued but you people from all around the world are finally making us feel heard. I've once thought that these types of crimes are simply meant to be and that we as Korean women should learn to live with it but now I know that these aren't normal and there's people out in the world willing to lend a hand. Can't express how grateful I feel to all of you. May God bless you all.
@fid_0565
@fid_0565 7 ай бұрын
Yes you should not let the fight fade, I’m really sad to hear that Korean women are not heard and I imagine that it must be hard for you all and I’m really sorry. I’m from France and here sexual crimes are not taken seriously too, I really hope that the world will change for the good one day, I’m sending you all my strength and take care of yourself ❤
@solangesolange5311
@solangesolange5311 7 ай бұрын
¡Tienen que luchar por sus derechos, no hay otra manera! Mis mejores deseos para todas. 👋🏽🫂
@musicaenel9891
@musicaenel9891 7 ай бұрын
It’s not normal, it’s far from normal and what they’re doing makes a lasting scar in these women’s lives. We hear you all and we’re here to spread what is going on so maybe the government can begin to listen to victims and make laws that will help.
@HaticeYlmaz-fx3my
@HaticeYlmaz-fx3my 7 ай бұрын
Reading your comment made us even more happy. It's nice that our support means something. Never lose hope. People from all over the world will be with you and supporting you. I send my love to the brave and strong Korean women. Take care of yourselves.
@cwfqayin
@cwfqayin 7 ай бұрын
God bless Korean feminists!
@NONPOINT420
@NONPOINT420 7 ай бұрын
I wish Goo Hara really understood how brave and strong she was.
@marisahmusa5753
@marisahmusa5753 7 ай бұрын
What happen to her😢
@belaytriks
@belaytriks 7 ай бұрын
​@@marisahmusa5753 She took her own life. 💔
@shiirashinkai1
@shiirashinkai1 7 ай бұрын
i just wish i can bring her back to life, and praise her very well
@laetitiasherrypurnama5593
@laetitiasherrypurnama5593 7 ай бұрын
😢😢😢😢
@IvonAdarna-zo2vn
@IvonAdarna-zo2vn 7 ай бұрын
I hope those who bashed him then can't sleep. It's impossible they can't watch it
@sawaniahasna9634
@sawaniahasna9634 4 ай бұрын
Reporter Kang, You deserve immense respect for standing up against such a injustice. You are a woman I respect from the bottom of my heart. I wish you, your daughter and your family to live a great life filled with happiness.
@shreeverma90
@shreeverma90 6 ай бұрын
i have absolute respect for BBC for releasing this at the right time where kpop fans believe that their idols are gods and couldn't do anything unimaginable to the human kind.
@shreeverma90
@shreeverma90 6 ай бұрын
@WhwgwgAgagwqg I'm sorry about this news but why did u reply it to me 😭😭
@pruitv0
@pruitv0 6 ай бұрын
respect for a company making up this clip full of lies to protect certain criminals who used seungri as a scapegoat and could get away thanks to haters like you.
@Ms.keerti
@Ms.keerti 6 ай бұрын
This is true...kpop has much more dark secret 🙄
@pruitv0
@pruitv0 6 ай бұрын
@@Ms.keerti it doesnt its just jelly inetz like you who only use this genres popularity for cllout while not even liking it at all.
@paumons3230
@paumons3230 6 ай бұрын
@@Ms.keerti I think It's in all music, but I confirmed, Kpop sometimes try harder to hide their crimes. Sincerely, I hope their fans don't support never again those scumbags, and as Kpop fans I recommend never treat them like gods, because they are humans, and they show us just what they want and not who they really are.
@hr3193
@hr3193 7 ай бұрын
It is shocking that in Korea the word feminist is used as an insult. I send my support to all feminists in Korea.
@ygyg-n3h
@ygyg-n3h 7 ай бұрын
⁠@@ddgrey9675뭔 개소리ㅋㅋ most of men think feminist is bullshit even women hair is short
@긩뀨
@긩뀨 7 ай бұрын
@@ddgrey9675 아닌데요..레디컬페미니스트가 아니여도 탄압 당합니다..
@dibbidubba
@dibbidubba 7 ай бұрын
@@ddgrey9675when yall see women fighting for something y’all don’t understand or will never go trough it will be called “radical” feminism lol
@긩뀨
@긩뀨 7 ай бұрын
@@ddgrey9675 한국남자들은 ‘페미’라는 말자체를 욕으로 사용하잖아요
@garlic98
@garlic98 7 ай бұрын
@@ddgrey9675 that's a total lie lol as soon as Korean men hear the word "feminist," they treat them like lunatics, criminals lol.
@trashychild1254
@trashychild1254 7 ай бұрын
I don’t know why they blur the other guys faces out just cause they re not famous doesn’t mean they didn’t take part
@courtneyreed2751
@courtneyreed2751 7 ай бұрын
This part!! They knew what was going on and probably even were involved in those activities but because they not famous who cares!? If anything I think that makes them more dangerous
@lyllaby
@lyllaby 7 ай бұрын
@@courtneyreed2751 foreal and then the one man in the end saying theyre still using drugs to abuse in his club like currently????? excuse me are we hearing this
@choibilzz242
@choibilzz242 7 ай бұрын
It’s Korean law to protect normal civilians faces. Privacy laws as are very important and reinforced in Korea 😭😭 even for criminals (murderers, rapists and etc. )😭😭 which is disgusting imo
@ddeonnu3453
@ddeonnu3453 7 ай бұрын
​@@choibilzz242 then why didn't they cover her child's face 😭 it is so scary because they know her face and she might be also a target
@choibilzz242
@choibilzz242 7 ай бұрын
@@ddeonnu3453 probably because their guardians consented, cuz if not, lawsuits bro and Korea is heavy with those lawsuits
@VergeWithFacebook
@VergeWithFacebook 10 күн бұрын
6 years for all those crimes? It's a completely unjust world.
@raic3283
@raic3283 7 ай бұрын
The female journalist being bullied and miscarrying is so damn sad.
@Carol-ws1fb
@Carol-ws1fb 7 ай бұрын
It's horrible, she wanted to tell the truth and people attacked her for it and she lost so much. :(( She is so strong and admirable for not giving up and fight!
@jamaeldarainon
@jamaeldarainon 7 ай бұрын
those fans are sick, because of the stress that caused the reporter to miscarriage twice is sad and misserables
@ting-ting7001
@ting-ting7001 6 ай бұрын
His damn label protected him back in 2015. I remember in real Time when the scandal dropped. I didn’t know she was bullied. Course news outlets didn’t reveal that!
@novifitrianti1975
@novifitrianti1975 7 ай бұрын
To the one who said "these idols deserve second chance", now asked the victims if they still had second chance to have normal lives again.
@Ana-jb8du
@Ana-jb8du 7 ай бұрын
​@@speakupyt4900Just vomiting the same copy paste under each comment, I see. Pathetic
@tenyharyati9355
@tenyharyati9355 7 ай бұрын
@@speakupyt4900 are you blind or deaf?
@RogueCassette
@RogueCassette 7 ай бұрын
@@speakupyt4900 It's definitely not an isolated YG problem - coming from an old YG Stan since 2010. Also, OP is focusing on how the victims will never be as they were before while the perpetrators are living life as they want to (with blind support from fans).
@TaylorLeeKnow
@TaylorLeeKnow 7 ай бұрын
@@speakupyt4900Get out
@lopo889
@lopo889 7 ай бұрын
Thankfully you're not one of them who said that 😅, bless your brain still function normally
@merryhlue
@merryhlue 7 ай бұрын
I’m so glad bbc released this. Kpop stans were defending this man for the longest time and blaming the victims instead.
@viktorcheng2061
@viktorcheng2061 7 ай бұрын
Korea has a problem with celebrity worship syndrome
@shineecrystal
@shineecrystal 7 ай бұрын
some kpop fans are so idiotic....
@altheadelavictoria1341
@altheadelavictoria1341 7 ай бұрын
ive seen people do EVERYTHING to defend these filthy man. they even trash people who talk about this scandal saying that seungri is innocent and it was all a lie made by haters. like, wtf? what hurts is the fans who defend him are usually FEMALE.
@JamaicaDiamond24
@JamaicaDiamond24 7 ай бұрын
IKR. but to be fair it was NEVER released to us that he was found guilty on anything. I just found out what he was actually convicted of a few months ago. His trial was private b/c he ran to the military and went through their court system. Also his charges was EXPUNGED from his record b/c he use some loophole that if you only do x amount of days in jails, the charges wont be on your record! So he actually DON'T have to register as a s Offender b/c its NO longer on his record. tell me thats not crazy.
@janinejay3423
@janinejay3423 7 ай бұрын
Seungri still has fans defending him. Brain dead
@Masked.person863
@Masked.person863 4 ай бұрын
This is not only about Korea it's about the entire Entertainment industry 😔 And there are millions of chat group like that 😔 .
@pruitv4
@pruitv4 4 ай бұрын
look up burning sun how a lie was born there you can find the truth that this crrupt site doesnt want you to know.
@jh8542
@jh8542 7 ай бұрын
Korean people want this case to be world-widely known. Please make sure the people related and found guilty never get hired anywhere in this earth.
@Sonnenanbeterin1991
@Sonnenanbeterin1991 7 ай бұрын
Sungri has a TV Show know😢
@wenkolako
@wenkolako 7 ай бұрын
@@Sonnenanbeterin1991WHAT
@elinglee8878
@elinglee8878 7 ай бұрын
I too was so shocked to learn Seungri is still living his best lavish lifes and still there are girls throwing themselves to him. 👎
@aminnie00
@aminnie00 7 ай бұрын
불행하게도... 우리 법은 너무 관대해요.
@sheilawangeci4485
@sheilawangeci4485 7 ай бұрын
Wtf
@cuteiiu
@cuteiiu 7 ай бұрын
The fact that Seungri sentenced 18 months is crazy he deserves life time sentence
@Sey-rr3dy
@Sey-rr3dy 7 ай бұрын
The information is incorrect. The man whose last name is Lee is not Seungri, but lee jong-hyun, a member of CN BLUE. Lee jong Hyun apologized and enlisted in the army to escape criticism. So why did you guys write Seungri's name? Burning sun scandal and chat molka are completely different cases!!! Burning Sun: The abuser is Kim Sang Kyo. Chat Molka: Jung, Choi, Hoe, Kim ARE GUILTY After months of investigation the police make an official statement that there is no evidence of rape or drugs in BS. Kim Sangkyo wanted to ruin the owners (using the name of a well known idol, i.e. Seungri's name) to escape the 4 rape charges against him. The Burning Sun case was terminated. Molka case: After investigations, reporters admitted that they had manipulated some of JJY's chats by putting some of the private chats into group. Seungri was charged with various things but was never charged with filming/distributing molka, sexual assault, procuring!!!
@Sey-rr3dy
@Sey-rr3dy 7 ай бұрын
The information is incorrect. The man whose last name is Lee is not Seungri, but lee jong-hyun, a member of CN BLUE. Lee jong Hyun apologized and enlisted in the army to escape criticism. So why did you guys write Seungri's name? Burning sun scandal and chat molka are completely different cases!!! Burning Sun: The abuser is Kim Sang Kyo. Chat Molka: Jung, Choi, Hoe, Kim ARE GUILTY After months of investigation the police make an official statement that there is no evidence of rape or drugs in BS. Kim Sangkyo wanted to ruin the owners (using the name of a well known idol, i.e. Seungri's name) to escape the 4 rape charges against him. The Burning Sun case was terminated. Molka case: After investigations, reporters admitted that they had manipulated some of JJY's chats by putting some of the private chats into group. Seungri was charged with various things but was never charged with filming/distributing molka, sexual assault, procuring.!!!!
@toffymacaroonz
@toffymacaroonz 7 ай бұрын
Yes and it's even worse that he is also hired to sing at various high-class events in Thailand.
@lonsolchang7694
@lonsolchang7694 7 ай бұрын
The guy is hustling and bustling in asia pacific as of this moment...
@rftg1793
@rftg1793 7 ай бұрын
Right?!
@dirtybubble2478
@dirtybubble2478 7 ай бұрын
This is what they should call "National Embarrassment" not Karina's apology for dating
@user-dkvo1kro0lsw
@user-dkvo1kro0lsw 7 ай бұрын
The Korean public is tolerant of male idols and harsh on female idols.
@lauramelqonyan439
@lauramelqonyan439 7 ай бұрын
Speak loud 👏
@kellykimbi9101
@kellykimbi9101 7 ай бұрын
Karina’s apology was just the cherry on top lmfao
@sa5m225
@sa5m225 7 ай бұрын
even tyuzu in Twice, she had to make a whole apology just because she was waving her country flag.
@SeonaleeSobermati
@SeonaleeSobermati 7 ай бұрын
@@user-dkvo1kro0lswholds good in every walks of life. Us women are the ones to suffer
@ylethh4071
@ylethh4071 Ай бұрын
I'm not going to see kpop like I used to, I remember that then people were so so toxic with those like me who wanted to protest against them, I remember a kpop fan told me to not speak bad things about "seungri" now we have this documentary, I wonder where are all those toxic fans now? are they still blaming and harassing people? I'm not taking a kpoper seriously right now, how can they defend THIS
@dewmininilakshi
@dewmininilakshi Ай бұрын
Too much obsession towards kpop idols made by kpop industry is insane. Most toxic fans come to protect idols no matter what they do, they don't stand for what is right, and consider idols as gods, Shame on these kind of people , this is only one incident but there should be more incident that have happened and they escape from those just by using there wealth, power and connections. And some fans are totally blinded by their appearance and fame
@leichill
@leichill Ай бұрын
​Not only Kpop idols but the fans are also train by the Industry to act that you know​@@dewmininilakshi
@annikalund2329
@annikalund2329 7 ай бұрын
To that poor woman who had been raped: I think you are very very brave to tell your story and I wish you all the best for the rest of your life!
@anju5124
@anju5124 7 ай бұрын
True. She's so brave to speak up for all of us.
@umhi5743
@umhi5743 7 ай бұрын
I wish I could give her a hug or be rich enough to buy her a lot of presents or smth because she deserves it! The poor thing has gone through so much 😔
@pruitv0
@pruitv0 6 ай бұрын
what woman mentioned seungri though, none and here you are using this victim to mix up her own words showing how you dont care one bit about her.
@annikalund2329
@annikalund2329 6 ай бұрын
@@pruitv0 , It doesn’t matter who did it, I just felt sorry for her suffering.
@pruitv0
@pruitv0 6 ай бұрын
@@annikalund2329 if you feel sorry for her and the real victims then you should also stand up to the innocent people who are wrongly accused, let alone how the victims themselves literally stated that seungri wasnt involved.
@Sakyura05
@Sakyura05 7 ай бұрын
The way the journalists had two miscarriage because of the stress breaks my heart into a million pieces
@Timepersonalspace
@Timepersonalspace 7 ай бұрын
This kpop fans need to hate more on this idols than wounyoung for eating strawberries with both of her hands
@ishitheII
@ishitheII 7 ай бұрын
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK 🗣️🔥🔥🔥‼️
@ArmelSight
@ArmelSight 7 ай бұрын
ikrr!! These double standards are so annoying and confusing 💀
@youngandrich-ricky
@youngandrich-ricky 7 ай бұрын
SAY IT LOUDER 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
@aditikule2482
@aditikule2482 7 ай бұрын
I don't know like I also like some k pop artist.. but how can a person put blind eye on these kind of heinous crime.. do they just stop their logical thinking!! I mean education enables you to think and then judge for yourself what's right or wrong.. Being a fan doesn't mean you're their servant like those staffs at burning sun that you'd be blind , deaf,dumb.. Ridiculous
@newxedit
@newxedit 7 ай бұрын
SO TRUE
@Rebecka1856
@Rebecka1856 23 күн бұрын
The women here are STRONG! The journalists and the artists that spoke up and did not back down. They are fighters. We can never let men like this win. And it breaks my heart that these two female artists are not here anymore, cause they were so strong too.
@wanjirugikandi
@wanjirugikandi 7 ай бұрын
Apparently in s.korea,if you're caught smoking weed you will face a harsher sentence than a rapist 🤡
@blinkningbetterthanyourfav2107
@blinkningbetterthanyourfav2107 7 ай бұрын
Fr I hate korea law
@abuhammer7450
@abuhammer7450 7 ай бұрын
Because grape is common in Korea but smoking weed isn't
@katherinstaci
@katherinstaci 7 ай бұрын
i hate their laws
@e0173
@e0173 7 ай бұрын
@@blinkningbetterthanyourfav2107 me too. In Korea, rape has so many women who have been sexually harassed, harassed, forced to break into, concealed, and sexually committed crimes that the price of rape is three years.
@Remarkable269
@Remarkable269 7 ай бұрын
Ikr like they need to make petitions to change the punishments for sexual crimes
@Dyj96
@Dyj96 7 ай бұрын
If you’re still a fan of Seungri and Jung, you should be ashamed.
@genshoryukenpou
@genshoryukenpou 7 ай бұрын
Except you're big bang fans and still support him, even he resign from big bang
@carolynswen2957
@carolynswen2957 7 ай бұрын
Especially if you are a female fan who’s still supporting them
@holoinfinity4691
@holoinfinity4691 7 ай бұрын
100%
@foster26a
@foster26a 7 ай бұрын
@@genshoryukenpouwtf there is no exception, he deserves to only rot in jail
@starlight14673
@starlight14673 5 ай бұрын
@@genshoryukenpou true he did tarnish the name of big bang as a foreign watcher i came to know about bb from this case
@MischievousMischief
@MischievousMischief 7 ай бұрын
Those female reporters are absolute legends! It takes so much courage. Thank you so much for your hard work 🫶
@jhoi890
@jhoi890 7 ай бұрын
Great layer ,I can say.. they mixed up two different case..hahahahaha..
@elenabob4953
@elenabob4953 7 ай бұрын
​@@jhoi890Oh you missed the connection, you should carefully watch again the video so it wouldn't escape you the second time. Maybe you need to put it at 75%speed so you would understand it this time. Really, it isn't complicated or rocket science.
@teleriferchnyfain
@teleriferchnyfain Ай бұрын
The media continually confused those cases - intentionally I’m sure. The connection is that JJY was friends with a bunch of KPop idols & actors, including Seungri, who BTW was a minor investor in BS who acted as DJ & gave them publicity. The main owners were never even exposed😡👎😡. The only celebrity actively involved in that rape chat room was Choi Jung Hoon of FT Island, as well as JJY. There were other chat rooms JJY was in but they didn’t incriminate anyone. Some videos were shared by JJY but taken down. The police weren’t interested - except for the ones filing molka & the actual rapists. This documentary conveniently ignores this
@LenMJ1429
@LenMJ1429 2 ай бұрын
4 years- 1 1/2 years in prison- what a joke- for the lives destroyed- still facing trauma, shame, criticism….
@And-wi7ni
@And-wi7ni 7 ай бұрын
"If your are persecuting us for this, then shouldn't all korean men be called criminals?" wow.
@ed3245
@ed3245 7 ай бұрын
How fcked up his mind.
@andrelopez2514
@andrelopez2514 7 ай бұрын
if you see the documentary about the N room there is a lot of criminals out in the streets never procecuted
@AramasG
@AramasG 7 ай бұрын
@@andrelopez2514yeah that was horrific. The fact this is just the tip of the iceberg that’s sticking out of the cess pool is what’s really tragic.
@AyAReI00
@AyAReI00 7 ай бұрын
And thats why they keep doing it ... Cuz they get less time than rob, stalk, doing drugs ... Is like so ridicolous MANY don't Even do jail time at all
@amelioratenote7845
@amelioratenote7845 7 ай бұрын
I remember seeing these kind of comments n debate throughout when the things blew up . They tried to divert the actual crime
@mapletea8902
@mapletea8902 7 ай бұрын
18 months, 2 years, 6 years is shockingly short for how horrible their crimes were
@yayaarmyjjang
@yayaarmyjjang 7 ай бұрын
Agree!!
@vilisawonder
@vilisawonder 7 ай бұрын
Can’t agree more!!’
@Jea_3007
@Jea_3007 7 ай бұрын
Agree
@ethereal_moon888
@ethereal_moon888 7 ай бұрын
Es una condena muy injusta
@wasifchoudhury7992
@wasifchoudhury7992 7 ай бұрын
In some countries they give death penalties for such crime.
@arielle2336
@arielle2336 7 ай бұрын
One of the most disturbing things about these chats is how MDs referred to women. They called them “water”. “Bring the best water to VIP’s room”, “There is a man near water, don’t let him touch it”. Completely dehumanised women, made them objects to use…
@miuthub7954
@miuthub7954 7 ай бұрын
They must think the same of their mothers, sisters, daughters and nieces and so on.... Awful
@xprrj
@xprrj 7 ай бұрын
It's also a language thing. In general people say in Korean there's good water when there's good prospects of both women and men. Here they took it to a literal level. 😣
@uoomiiii
@uoomiiii Ай бұрын
I found it weird that ppl were shocked by seungri's case while in all his solo mvs shows so clear his personality and thinking
@avegailLegaspi
@avegailLegaspi 15 күн бұрын
people are even saying his group is bullying him but they are just trying to get him to stop his shady behaviors. Top said that everytime seungri is around, all he talks about is money. Gd even had a song about Seungri's shady friends.
@AishaAguilar-zu4pt
@AishaAguilar-zu4pt 5 күн бұрын
Reaally whicg
@Dumdumdaa
@Dumdumdaa 5 ай бұрын
I'm a Korean woman, and the news about foreigners obssessed with Korean men with only the images from the mass media makes me sooo worry about them. Dating abuse and scam cameras are soooo common in here. Please avoid them as you can, dear fellow females.
@user-jy3ux5iy5f
@user-jy3ux5iy5f 5 ай бұрын
Korean women play the victim
@xiaonation
@xiaonation 5 ай бұрын
​@@user-jy3ux5iy5f what does going to the military have to do with being a decent human being? Someone can go to the military and still be a filthy human being? Please use your 2 braincells properly
@xiaonation
@xiaonation 5 ай бұрын
​@@user-jy3ux5iy5fjust say you wanna r@pe women and get away with it, with ALLLLL this defending you're doing for these losers 😂 how many comments have you left on this video? Maybe spend that time learning how to use your brain 💀💀
@beckc101ify
@beckc101ify 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for looking out! Love and support from America!
@mehakmahadule
@mehakmahadule 5 ай бұрын
​@@user-jy3ux5iy5fand people like you the reason for this
@markgeolli263
@markgeolli263 7 ай бұрын
The victim will live the trauma throughout their lives while the suspects only suffers 6 years in prison. This is so infuriating
@kpopenthusiast2180
@kpopenthusiast2180 7 ай бұрын
it was even reduced to five years...
@ccdark6526
@ccdark6526 7 ай бұрын
Suffers? I guarantee you their room int he prison is bigger than my bedroom and the food they ate in the prison is better than what i ate and i'm not even in prison
@Illilllilll
@Illilllilll 7 ай бұрын
- jung junyoung (5years prison), choi jonghoon(2years prison) : gang rape, filming.. - Seunglee(Victory), member of Bigbang (18 months prison) : arrangement of prostitution, drug etc(about 9 criminals) - Yoon yougeun, ex police superintendent($15000) : close relationship between prostitution Its very nice conditions to make criminals in Korea.😢😅
@goldiefabros1701
@goldiefabros1701 7 ай бұрын
I can't believe after all these, they were just able to get minimal punishment and many others were just living free. While the victims have to suffer the rest of their lives. Sadly, those who try to get justice are no longer with us. Women are not objects and toys for the rich and powerful to play!
@angel-haru
@angel-haru 7 ай бұрын
To make matters worse, the fact that celebrities were sentenced to five years in Korea constitutes a long period of time. I don't like Korean laws.
@charlotte0904
@charlotte0904 7 ай бұрын
When rape, gang rape, forced prostitution, coercive intoxication, and the drugging of young girls is seen as ‘feminist’, is when you know a country needs some serious introspection. It is not feminist to ask for bare minimum human rights, in a first world country no less. Basic human decency aside, are the men of Korea not absolutely mortified that their mothers, aunts, cousins, sisters, daughters, and granddaughters could wake up one day having experienced what these women did at the hands of people they thought they could trust? Are the men of Korea not absolutely appalled by how women seem to have no level of protection from their law enforcement to the point where matters as severe as this are simply swept under the rug FOR YEARS with no intention of addressing anything?! Absolute shame on Korean society for allowing this to persist for so long, and for letting every single one of these men walk free today. The fact that there are men in these comments berating Korean women for being distraught about their reality, and the fact that some of these comments are the anonymous accounts of Korean women who could lose their livelihoods if found out to have been engaging in ‘feminist’ content is APPALLING. Korea cannot be serious?!
@Xogus_2v
@Xogus_2v 7 ай бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@UtahGal
@UtahGal 7 ай бұрын
This 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 I once thought to visit Korea, but as more of how women are treated by the LAW and police when such atrocious happen. I say SHAME, SHAME, SHAME. This Woman will take Korea off her bucket list. 18 MONTHS .....Outrageous. 5 yeas? Are you KIDDING me? Pathetic justice system
@tamiinix
@tamiinix 7 ай бұрын
Men in general don't typically make that connection. To them, especially in korea but also worldwide unfortunately, women who go through that or women who are in places like clubs are not people, they're things. It's encouraged through their man on man relationships with locker talk and lack of education on female sexual health for men and is perpetuated through the emphasis and importance placed on men in society. Think about familiar hierarchy, historically the man was above his wife, he owned everything and could do anything. Whilst the idea is outdated, some families cling to it. So those ideas get passed down to children who are never told otherwise in other parts of society and who, once grown up a little, will then talk about it with their friends in ways that more and more snowball towards hatred or objectification towards women. It's an intrinsic part of society and the only way to make it even a little less potent is for men and boys to hold their friends accountable.
@steffiee.ann.whitee
@steffiee.ann.whitee 7 ай бұрын
Feminism is needed in the East so badly.
@Cave-u5j
@Cave-u5j 7 ай бұрын
Exactly! A facade that was created to make it seem that it's a great country, but look for a few moments and you notice the cracks.
@ileei391
@ileei391 4 ай бұрын
They say "All men are not the same" but it's always a man
@pruitv4
@pruitv4 4 ай бұрын
look up burning sun how a lie was born there you can find the truth that this crrupt site doesnt want you to know.
@ballerina3483
@ballerina3483 16 күн бұрын
All they are concerned is not ruining their chances with women
@paglaith5561
@paglaith5561 5 күн бұрын
What's even the point of your statement?
@exmecha5684
@exmecha5684 5 сағат бұрын
lol base
@gaylelim9131
@gaylelim9131 7 ай бұрын
Not only did seungri get a slap on the wrist, he was filmed at some rich guy's party in Malaysia very recently, performing for them. The fact that he's able to eke out a career and still have people who support him after all he has done is disgusting. He should be in jail and never see the light of the day.
@vvaenhadzln
@vvaenhadzln 7 ай бұрын
for real some people should kick him for that country
@syazleenazahar3989
@syazleenazahar3989 7 ай бұрын
True! So scared that he will establish another “Burning Sun” here.
@98765KSC
@98765KSC 7 ай бұрын
@@syazleenazahar3989rumour has it he’s opening a club in Cambodia
@team_byeol
@team_byeol 7 ай бұрын
And he still uses Bigbang for clout and connections... It's not just his actions that are insane, but also the number of people that CHOOSE to support him as of today.
@piruncute
@piruncute 7 ай бұрын
It's so sad and scary that he came to Cambodia and ran into an idea "Opening a club in Cambodia" Some people here are too soon to forget what he has done.
@camilacalvo4550
@camilacalvo4550 7 ай бұрын
The fact that Seungri has been the head, the boss of all this and his sentence is 1 and a half years, makes my blood BOILLLL
@betnak6283
@betnak6283 7 ай бұрын
A lot of females fans still support him.. they can’t accept that he is a monster.
@OrdinaryApprentice99
@OrdinaryApprentice99 7 ай бұрын
@@betnak6283 Rather than that, they are likeminded psychos themselves. Sometimes fans can be even more evil than the artists themselves which gets those artists this superiority complex at the first place.
@onlystarsknow767
@onlystarsknow767 7 ай бұрын
And even to this day, some people still think he is innocent. They can even die defending him like??
@virginiagorio5847
@virginiagorio5847 7 ай бұрын
bacause a lot of high profile people will be exposed if he talks. he is jeffrey epstein of korea.
@JADEMOND
@JADEMOND 7 ай бұрын
Exacto este caso no avanzo porque los clientes VIP son los que están sosteniendo esto por detrás, impidiendo que avance está investigacion, revelación y la justa condena de los implicados.
@MonnyArcade
@MonnyArcade 7 ай бұрын
The most worrying thing was when the man said something like, "if what was on seungri's phone 3 years ago gets him arrested, then shouldn't all men be arrested". Oh my god. Yes, arrest them all if this is the norm!
@Snshwwh
@Snshwwh 7 ай бұрын
The court rendered guilty verdicts based on the presumption of guilt in cases of sexual assault,while acquitting and then finding guilty in cases of prostitution and drug crimes based on the presumption of innocence. However, except for the most serious charges, sentences often appeared to be lenient, resembling acquittals. In Korea, there is a minimum sentence of 10 years for rape, but some argue that this is still too lenient. Korea refers to rape as "robbery rape" and follows the principle of presumption of guilt. The concerning events surrounding Kakao's women-only Daum official cafe, Yeoseongsidae, have shed light on a troubling trend of criminal activities and online misconduct. Despite the gravity of these issues, they have largely evaded public scrutiny until recent revelations brought them to the forefront. The exploitation of minors through the sharing of sensitive personal information, coupled with the unlawful distribution of explicit content, underscores the urgent need for accountability and regulation within online communities. The fact that these revelations emerged not through formal reports but via disclosures on Reddit is indicative of systemic oversight and complacency. Furthermore, the association of Yeoseongsidae with influential political figures has raised questions about the integrity of media coverage and the prioritization of certain narratives over others. The reluctance of Korean media outlets to report on these matters, influenced by political affiliations, speaks to a larger issue of institutional bias and censorship. Of particular concern is the disparity in the treatment of perpetrators based on gender. The case of the trainee soldier, driven to his demise by malicious intent and neglect, highlights the pervasiveness of misandry and the dangers of unchecked extremism. The fact that the perpetrator, motivated by intense hatred for men, received leniency and psychological treatment underscores systemic inequities and the need for reform. Moreover, the prevalence of false accusations and the detrimental impact on innocent individuals, exemplified by the tragic suicide of actor Lee Sun-kyun, underscores the urgent need for legal safeguards and protections against defamation and harassment. In light of these revelations, it is imperative to challenge harmful stereotypes and promote accountability and transparency within online communities. Only through collective action and awareness can we address the root causes of discrimination and ensure a safer and more equitable society for all. Actor Lee Sun-kyun was falsely accused of sexual assault by self-proclaimed radical feminists who were members of the Daum Kakao Cafe (Yeoseongsidae) with 840,000 members. He committed suicide after succumbing to their threats, sending them tens of thousands of dollars. Evidence of blackmail and false accusations for sexual violence was presented to the police, leading to their arrest. They confessed and were sentenced to one year in prison. Korean media outlets are currently covering this story. This fact is being covered by the Korean media The 840,000 members of Kakao's women-only Daum official cafe, Yeoseongsidae, who have been implicated in criminal activities for sharing videos containing personal information of minors, have surprisingly received little attention. Insights from Reddit posts have brought to light the site's reputation for unlawfully distributing facial and nude photos, as well as personal details like addresses and names. This underscores the crucial need for direct permission from the operator to join. Notably,The exposure of this information didn't stem from formal reports but rather surfaced through disclosures on Reddit, where a former USFK member revealed the situation. The Kakao official cafe gained public attention for the first time due to its association with the former President Moon Jae-in's Democratic Party, which had close ties to the police chief who overlooked the Burning Sun scandal. Consequently, Korean media outlets like '뉴데일리' refrained from reporting on it, showing deference to the party's influence. However, it wasn't until the recent revelation of the site's criminal activities by the US military personnel that it was first brought to light. If you look at the on the site and you can show what information is being shared, they secretly filmed a minor wearing a school uniform and commented on it, saying, "he has a pretty genitals," "The face and nude photos are cute who is 17 so perfect as a sexual plaything." This crime is pubilcized for the first time in medias and newspapers because United States Forces were also recently targeted. Many K-pop fans, predominantly women, including self-proclaimed radical feminists, contributed to Shirley's tragic death with their hurtful comments, disapproving of her appeal to male audiences. This negativity led to Goo Hara's suicide, possibly influenced by the Werther effect. A large portion of these individuals gather on Daum's official community, Yeo Seong Si Dae, boasting 840,000 extremists. Shirley became the target of a relentless witch hunt within this closed community, where she was unjustly demonized."
@Snshwwh
@Snshwwh 7 ай бұрын
The court rendered guilty verdicts based on the presumption of guilt in cases of sexual assault,while acquitting and then finding guilty in cases of prostitution and drug crimes based on the presumption of innocence. However, except for the most serious charges, sentences often appeared to be lenient, resembling acquittals. In Korea, there is a minimum sentence of 10 years for rape, but some argue that this is still too lenient. Korea refers to rape as "robbery rape" and follows the principle of presumption of guilt. The concerning events surrounding Kakao's women-only Daum official cafe, Yeoseongsidae, have shed light on a troubling trend of criminal activities and online misconduct. Despite the gravity of these issues, they have largely evaded public scrutiny until recent revelations brought them to the forefront. The exploitation of minors through the sharing of sensitive personal information, coupled with the unlawful distribution of explicit content, underscores the urgent need for accountability and regulation within online communities. The fact that these revelations emerged not through formal reports but via disclosures on Reddit is indicative of systemic oversight and complacency. Furthermore, the association of Yeoseongsidae with influential political figures has raised questions about the integrity of media coverage and the prioritization of certain narratives over others. The reluctance of Korean media outlets to report on these matters, influenced by political affiliations, speaks to a larger issue of institutional bias and censorship. Of particular concern is the disparity in the treatment of perpetrators based on gender. The case of the trainee soldier, driven to his demise by malicious intent and neglect, highlights the pervasiveness of misandry and the dangers of unchecked extremism. The fact that the perpetrator, motivated by intense hatred for men, received leniency and psychological treatment underscores systemic inequities and the need for reform. Moreover, the prevalence of false accusations and the detrimental impact on innocent individuals, exemplified by the tragic suicide of actor Lee Sun-kyun, underscores the urgent need for legal safeguards and protections against defamation and harassment. In light of these revelations, it is imperative to challenge harmful stereotypes and promote accountability and transparency within online communities. Only through collective action and awareness can we address the root causes of discrimination and ensure a safer and more equitable society for all. Actor Lee Sun-kyun was falsely accused of sexual assault by self-proclaimed radical feminists who were members of the Daum Kakao Cafe (Yeoseongsidae) with 840,000 members. He committed suicide after succumbing to their threats, sending them tens of thousands of dollars. Evidence of blackmail and false accusations for sexual violence was presented to the police, leading to their arrest. They confessed and were sentenced to one year in prison. Korean media outlets are currently covering this story. This fact is being covered by the Korean media The 840,000 members of Kakao's women-only Daum official cafe, Yeoseongsidae, who have been implicated in criminal activities for sharing videos containing personal information of minors, have surprisingly received little attention. Insights from Reddit posts have brought to light the site's reputation for unlawfully distributing facial and nude photos, as well as personal details like addresses and names. This underscores the crucial need for direct permission from the operator to join. Notably,The exposure of this information didn't stem from formal reports but rather surfaced through disclosures on Reddit, where a former USFK member revealed the situation. The Kakao official cafe gained public attention for the first time due to its association with the former President Moon Jae-in's Democratic Party, which had close ties to the police chief who overlooked the Burning Sun scandal. Consequently, Korean media outlets like '뉴데일리' refrained from reporting on it, showing deference to the party's influence. However, it wasn't until the recent revelation of the site's criminal activities by the US military personnel that it was first brought to light. If you look at the on the site and you can show what information is being shared, they secretly filmed a minor wearing a school uniform and commented on it, saying, "he has a pretty genitals," "The face and nude photos are cute who is 17 so perfect as a sexual plaything." This crime is pubilcized for the first time in medias and newspapers because United States Forces were also recently targeted. Many K-pop fans, predominantly women, including self-proclaimed radical feminists, contributed to Shirley's tragic death with their hurtful comments, disapproving of her appeal to male audiences. This negativity led to Goo Hara's suicide, possibly influenced by the Werther effect. A large portion of these individuals gather on Daum's official community, Yeo Seong Si Dae, boasting 840,000 extremists. Shirley became the target of a relentless witch hunt within this closed community, where she was unjustly demonized."
@averageabnormalboredhuman4431
@averageabnormalboredhuman4431 6 ай бұрын
​@user-gq5fg3lo2c quite the man you are bringing this up in a case where the MEN are clearly at fault. Go cry about misandry elsewhere.
@hyeinjeon1487
@hyeinjeon1487 6 ай бұрын
​@@Snshwwhhey are you mental???????
@luskaneseprince
@luskaneseprince 6 ай бұрын
@@Snshwwh Seriously dude, not the time or place for your strange whataboutist rants. What does your little story have to do with possibly thousands and thousands of men having extremely incriminating material about women saved in their phones? How does your single case about a single cruel woman disprove anything? Even if there were a handful of feminists whose behavior was getting out of hand, WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH THIS CASE? Does it make it untrue? Does it make male violence against women not worth talking about? I follow the Korean news very closely and I haven't heard of a single case where convictions were solely based on unfounded accusations, but go off I guess.
@rubyanneinto49
@rubyanneinto49 12 күн бұрын
This made me question the behaviours of my favourite kpop boybands.. THANKS BBC FOR MAKING THIS DOCUMENTARY, MANY PEOPLE BECAME AWARE WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING IN KOREA, THIS IS AN EYE OPENER FOR EVERYONE!!
@TheICEgirl6100
@TheICEgirl6100 7 ай бұрын
Publishing this a month after the last perpetrator got released is genius, never let the public forget what they’ve done!!
@reah-i6l
@reah-i6l 7 ай бұрын
Yesssss. The countless victims who have been traumatised deserve better.
@PiggiesInTheRain
@PiggiesInTheRain 6 ай бұрын
Wait, rape gets you 2.5 years? That’s it? And the policeman who protected rapists gets nothing? What the hell is this Korea?? What did Jun get?
@jadoremusic620
@jadoremusic620 5 ай бұрын
5 years only
@BTSxARMYxPurpleLOVE
@BTSxARMYxPurpleLOVE 5 ай бұрын
Oh there’s a sighting of him recently at a club in france partying telling people he is a musician from boston. Be careful. They think they can start anew here in europe because of course nobody knew them.
@AnokiLonin
@AnokiLonin 5 ай бұрын
WTF
@getthefoutofhere1990
@getthefoutofhere1990 5 ай бұрын
Korean laws are very protective for men than women
@karlarebecaneirasandoval4695
@karlarebecaneirasandoval4695 5 ай бұрын
Not only Korea, all around the world is the same or worst. In Mexico most of the rapists get nothing, because they are colluded with the police.
@kikiyu-e6e
@kikiyu-e6e 7 ай бұрын
Everywhere is “Burning sun” for women in Korea. This is the reality. I never think Korean feminism is too radical. We need more feminists. I am a Korean woman and i feel sorry that i had not done much for the better.
@万恶共匪毒害中华
@万恶共匪毒害中华 7 ай бұрын
Korean men are misogynist, I don't think you can ever have any feminism progression in such an environment
@larissacamillo8231
@larissacamillo8231 7 ай бұрын
It's not your fault 💔
@systemhasfailedus841
@systemhasfailedus841 7 ай бұрын
I think korean feminists are not radical enough at this point
@wlrnvudvudtjf-yj6kf
@wlrnvudvudtjf-yj6kf 7 ай бұрын
The claim that Korean feminists are too radical is a one-sided claim by Korean men who want to cover up their own misguided ideas and tell the rest of the world that it's Korean women's fault.
@daniellet.3047
@daniellet.3047 7 ай бұрын
Sulli was a feminist in my eyes, but tragically the world was very gross to her. I just wish she didn't make the choice to end her life. But I think she deserves alot more credit for standing against the publics criticism of her such as not wearing bras, dating who she wants to, not being ashamed of her body or of being female. When she posted a video on IG of how she gets ready, there was a split second moment while she was straightening her hair, she had a nip slip due to the angle and the fact that she was wearing a loose fitting dress shirt. When people pointed this out, instead of feeling ashamed or embarrassed and deleting the video - she responded with "whats wrong? Hasn't anyone seen a woman's body before? It was just a mistake, i dont know whats so bad about it" She was a really nice person and genuinely didn't understand why people were so mean to her . But online bullying it can seem louder than it is ** * * * EDIT: thanks for all the likes. If only she was still around to all see the support she has. Hopefully it can serve as a reminder - for all celebrities, whether they're Korean or American artists, Think of how much Britney Spears went through, remember when paparazzi got a pic looking up her skirt & put her vagina picture was all over magazines & media? And we all SHAMED her for it, even though she didn't even take the picture? We've gotten a bit better, but still. Keep in mind
@joannejohnson7006
@joannejohnson7006 Ай бұрын
Exposing the worst of humanities suffering to heal and help others. A kindness like this can change your world and bring peace
@xwhy888
@xwhy888 7 ай бұрын
The fact that Jung's girlfriend initially tried to announce that she was being illegally filmed but later retracted her statement out of fear of legal consequences if there wasn't enough evidence makes me question the credibility of many bullying allegations and other similar cases in K-pop. It raises the possibility that victims might be afraid to come forward due to the fear of punishment for not having sufficient proof. The proof might have been there but simply not sufficient.
@jiyang4602
@jiyang4602 7 ай бұрын
Same thoughts while I was watching that part
@elenabob4953
@elenabob4953 7 ай бұрын
It was blood boiling to hear that the victim was forced to publicly apologize and retract everything while the reported was pressured and bullied and she had two miscarriages. Mind you, the cats and videos would never have surfaced unless you had "Burning sun" scandal.
@ArohaStill
@ArohaStill 7 ай бұрын
Fiesta fear and humiliation of not being believed after coming forward and of course there are also payoffs as well
@lizal5730
@lizal5730 7 ай бұрын
Reminds me of Kim seon ho case. How suddenly dispatch jumped in to save his ass with the woman being vilified to the point of silence
@gyrthez246
@gyrthez246 7 ай бұрын
I always question the idols that have the success but don't have the balls to tell their own fans not to bully other people. It always seems to be these exact same idols that have done something awful to somebody behind the scenes. Probably because they condone people pushing other people around. If I see a fandom war and the idols are just not commenting and/or trying to distance themselves from it when they absolutely see it, I know then not to support those idols ever because there's likely no human person behind that heavily edited face.
@BeatriceOmondi-r4h
@BeatriceOmondi-r4h 7 ай бұрын
Can't believe that those found guilty were never given enough punishment
@m.a.b.4104
@m.a.b.4104 7 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, it's too easy to believe. That's a big part of the problem.
@mageedays
@mageedays 7 ай бұрын
Shame on them
@juliaahn2783
@juliaahn2783 7 ай бұрын
That's because it happened in Korea. In Korea anything goes if you have money and power.
@m.a.b.4104
@m.a.b.4104 7 ай бұрын
@@juliaahn2783 like most places
@Kimmy234L
@Kimmy234L 7 ай бұрын
South Korea does not have tight and tough laws or sentences. They don't even regard certain assaults, harrassment or abuse as Unlawful. They also Victim Blame.
@carolini8595
@carolini8595 7 ай бұрын
13:28 When she says that there was a video of a man r4ping a woman from behind and the bedroom door was closed in the group chat, that man is Kwon Hyuk Jun, older brother of SNSD's Kwon Yuri. When it was revealed who participated in Seungri's chat group with Jung Joonyoung, Kwon Hyuk Jun's name was mentioned, he only said that he participated in the chat group to talk about business with Seungri, but later admitted his guilt. Kwon Hyuk Jun was sentenced to 10 years in prison, but managed to appeal South Korea's injustice laws, and changed his name to Kwon Yeon Oh.
@Reveluvvvv55
@Reveluvvvv55 7 ай бұрын
Your comment needs more attention
@MaudlinBlase
@MaudlinBlase 7 ай бұрын
SNSD girls were friends will all of these men and they have nothing to say? On the contrary, they're all practically retired now, aren't they... Celebrities in general are shit people, narcissists willing to look away and later claim innocence or ignorance to the world they are a part of and are all responsible for creating. Again, those girls barely work, so wtf aren't they repenting and using what popularity they have left to seek justice for victims like Goo Hara did? Well, one can only assume that they also have a tail to step on.
@carolini8595
@carolini8595 7 ай бұрын
​@@MaudlinBlaseAll the girls in SNSD knew BigBang, and they were close. At the time of the scandal (I was following), Yuri's brother had written a letter asking for forgiveness and talking about the possibility of his mistake tarnishing his sister's career. Yuri never spoke about this case or her brother. I remember that the only one from SNSD who spoke about the case was Hyoyeon (in 2021), because on the day that the complainant (who was attacked and was protecting a woman from harassment) mentioned that she was performing that day. Hyoyeon made a post on Instagram about her performance at Burning Sun, stating that that day she just went to the club to do the show and didn't know what was happening there.
@r3v773
@r3v773 7 ай бұрын
@@MaudlinBlase Korean celebs can be cancel by smallest thing so its normal nobody talks. The whole nation is full of corruption and lacks of freedom. One of their members is example of that, she never was allowed on tv anymore, Jessica i believe.
@sorevelink5144
@sorevelink5144 7 ай бұрын
The judicial system in SK is very corrupt as most crimes can be silenced with the proper price or proposition to higher status. Im not saying SK is the only one like this, I bet many strong nations too (they just hide it better) but it just shows how horrible our world is.
@your3starweapon
@your3starweapon 3 күн бұрын
18 months sentence? That's disgustingly short. Bruh, Korea you need to step up your justice system.
@Luvluna19
@Luvluna19 7 ай бұрын
I can’t believe angels like Hara lose their life and men like seungri are still walking amongst us
@grlsneverdie
@grlsneverdie 7 ай бұрын
i agree wholeheartedly, but seungri isn’t a man. that’s a savage animal. regarding such a creature as human like you and i is too generous.
@ap0750
@ap0750 7 ай бұрын
@@grlsneverdiethat would be an insult to animals.
@hannavang1594
@hannavang1594 7 ай бұрын
@@grlsneverdie SeungRi Is Not A Savage Animals, SeungRi Is A Monster/Devil
@lnhhawh
@lnhhawh 7 ай бұрын
@@ap0750i agree. animals can never harm you in such ways. those scums are pure evil.
@ladouleurexquise1696
@ladouleurexquise1696 7 ай бұрын
the number of clone accounts from Korean women expressing their frustration here because they are scared of backlash is just making me speechless. Imagine being scared of losing your job when you're just fighting for basic human rights. I'm so sorry
@wasabiANDkimchi
@wasabiANDkimchi 7 ай бұрын
Fr !!
@jannerujana6994
@jannerujana6994 7 ай бұрын
I was about to write this very thing. I am in shock. :c
@aditikule2482
@aditikule2482 7 ай бұрын
This is such a cruel mindset.. always victims get sidelined in this society.. and the abuser get just 5yrs for gand rape.. I can't believe this judgement I hope women, girls will talk about these wherever they can..
@user-dg2kf9lp4m
@user-dg2kf9lp4m 7 ай бұрын
그들은 남성혐오자들이다. 한국에 여성시대라는 커뮤니티사이트 회원수가 80만명이고 그들이 이곳에 몰려온것이다. 외국의 페미니스트 같지만 변질되어서 한국에서 페미니스트는 남성혐오이다. 그러니 너희 외국인들이 이해를 못할수밖에 없다.They are male haters. There are 800,000 members of a community site called Women's Generation in Korea, and they came here. Feminists are misogynistic in Korea because they seem to be foreign feminists but have been altered. So you foreigners can't help but understand.
@melodysun_
@melodysun_ 7 ай бұрын
My heart is breaking for them i hope one day their voices will be heard and they will be able to freely and confidently talk about issues like this
@sphinky1156
@sphinky1156 7 ай бұрын
this feels like a gateway segment into human trafficking. There's a huge issue with bribery and policemen in Korea
@BonBonWasHere111
@BonBonWasHere111 7 ай бұрын
When I lived there there was a lot of human trafficking in plain site and near military bases
@starrygrimes500
@starrygrimes500 7 ай бұрын
It basically is
@noodleaddict-i7c
@noodleaddict-i7c 7 ай бұрын
These days, prostitution businesses trick girls into recruiting on job search sites. The 19 olds girl, who went to cafe part-time job interview, committed suicide after being raped by people who were actually prostitution businesses in Busan.
@MexiCars
@MexiCars 7 ай бұрын
Its the Government that made the police hide all those Skeleton just not to tarnish tha (Good)image of Korea lol
@em5522
@em5522 7 ай бұрын
It's insane that the higher ups involved have never been prosecuted for this. Idt (cmiiw) the police, themselves, ever faced proper scrutiny from their _known_ involvement.
@brickbyboringbrick01
@brickbyboringbrick01 16 күн бұрын
thank you, Hara.
@navinwoo7287
@navinwoo7287 7 ай бұрын
It was reported that “he is all ready to open a club in Cambodia” this guy is obviously needs to spend the rest of his life in prison
@CAROUSEL5505
@CAROUSEL5505 7 ай бұрын
As a cambodian, he needs to stay the f out. I cant believe some of my people are so ignorant that they welcome such a disgusting convict
@katlekat214
@katlekat214 7 ай бұрын
it being in a more rural country near Thailand makes it scarier
@patta938
@patta938 7 ай бұрын
And also one of them in the news already open the club in Thailand
@katlekat214
@katlekat214 7 ай бұрын
@@patta938 They’re already making a whole new ring it seems, trafficking is already huge in those and some of the surrounding countries, it’s scary.
@yuiakashi1273
@yuiakashi1273 7 ай бұрын
as a cambodian, very few ppl know what they have done its scary to know that alot of females here still likes them and willing to support their clubs because they were clueless of what happened
@huntress1013
@huntress1013 7 ай бұрын
Perfect timing. Just when a certain rapist has been released from prison and singing BigBang songs agai.... it is so utterly disgusting and shouldn't be forgotten. Goo Hara has NOT died in vain.
@vei80s53
@vei80s53 7 ай бұрын
Seungri is a disgusting man but he was not the one convicted as a rapist
@iya7126
@iya7126 7 ай бұрын
who has been released again?
@quasion6693
@quasion6693 7 ай бұрын
@@iya7126 seungri and someone else i believe
@aeri_taylors-version
@aeri_taylors-version 7 ай бұрын
WDYM THEY’VE BEEN RELEASED?!?
@pinkitydinkity6550
@pinkitydinkity6550 7 ай бұрын
@@aeri_taylors-versionsadly yes, their sentences were too short
@justanotherhuman7284
@justanotherhuman7284 7 ай бұрын
I honestly think BBC slayed this documentary, you picked the right time to release it. Just when they were released from prison and about to be forgotten by the public
@jiggythibs
@jiggythibs 7 ай бұрын
Most interviews are actually running in Korea for the past few weeks. I guess BBC might have used the materials to make an English report but when I showed this to my wife (who's Korean) today, she said she's been following this a few weeks ago from Korean news. BBC still did a good job.
@GlobeTrot251
@GlobeTrot251 7 ай бұрын
The BBC released a podcast series on Burning Sun mid-last year with these interviews. I think it may have been a part of the 'Intrigue' series. This video seems like a condensed version of that. Worth a listen if you're interested! Glad this is getting the attention it deserves.
@Lay_lay_.
@Lay_lay_. 4 ай бұрын
This documentary got me crying this is so sad
@pruitv4
@pruitv4 4 ай бұрын
look up burning sun how a lie was born there you can find the truth that this crrupt site doesnt want you to know.
@user-s8w9y
@user-s8w9y 7 ай бұрын
As a Korean, thank you so much for making such a documentary and letting the world know. In Korea, cases were buried. It was literally covered up. Very few people received light sentences. Now that the small sentence is over, they are living in great luxury. What is deplorable is that women's human rights are at this level in Korean society. I hope many people know the reality of Korea. I hope there are no people (especially K-pop fans) who are affected by fantasizing about Korean society.
@LuliD2
@LuliD2 7 ай бұрын
It wasn't covered up, it was a scandal that made it to the international news. It was all people talked about everyday for 3 months. The SK President himself asked to investigate deeply and punish the responsibles. One of the problems was the reporting of the press, it was very negligent, people couldn't separate rumors and facts because of that. Also the worst problem about the sentencing was the laws. The punishment was light because the laws aren's strict enough with sexual crimes
@Sonnenanbeterin1991
@Sonnenanbeterin1991 7 ай бұрын
There is also a korean version you can share in korea and they do a series too
@Sonnenanbeterin1991
@Sonnenanbeterin1991 7 ай бұрын
​@@LuliD2still thes are all out of prison by know ans suengri has a TV Show comming up
@LuliD2
@LuliD2 7 ай бұрын
@@Sonnenanbeterin1991 yeah, they are out of prison, people should make protest to force politicians to change the laws. Also, where did you see the thing about the tv show? I've seen comments here about it but I haven't seen any news about that
@elinglee8878
@elinglee8878 7 ай бұрын
​@@LuliD2I have not seen any reporting in major news outlets in US
@은비가왔당
@은비가왔당 7 ай бұрын
The fact that the longest sentence for a criminal is only 3 short years, which makes me feel nauseous about the way Korean law deals with crimes when it's related to women.
@Zjvl2
@Zjvl2 7 ай бұрын
한국 사법부는 유명합니다. 세계최대 아동성범죄 사이트 운영자에게 고작 1년형을 줬고 그 범죄자는 이미 출소했습니다.. 언제나 한국 판사들은 성범죄에 관대합니다. 여자가 1번 남자를 죽일거라고 인터넷에 글을 쓰면 징역형이지만 남자는 몇번을 써도 처벌받지 않습니다. 실제 살인을 저지른건 남자뿐이였는데도..
@Mail80
@Mail80 7 ай бұрын
​@user-gw4wn9fk6b wow that's insanely sad
@kimiwimii
@kimiwimii 7 ай бұрын
The korean system is truly sick and horrific. I hope they bring justice to the women in south korea and change the laws there. Men there are truly terrible people.
@ventaliq
@ventaliq 7 ай бұрын
@@Zjvl2wtaf
@rjloveful
@rjloveful 7 ай бұрын
The women are giving it back by bringing down the population...I would say it's a fitting reply
@krissve
@krissve 5 ай бұрын
The fact the Jung is partying in France and plans to be part of the music industry again. Actually they all do. They haven’t changed. Wild
@DetektivConan1000
@DetektivConan1000 5 ай бұрын
Maybe he changed. I did his service. And how can we resocials people into socoety if we don't give them a second chance
@krissve
@krissve 5 ай бұрын
@@DetektivConan1000 they caught him dating two girls and lied to the both of them giving them the same exact treatment. Same room, same everything. Drop one off pick one up.
@luckymoon1162
@luckymoon1162 5 ай бұрын
​@@DetektivConan1000 If you feel sympathy to someone who doesn't even show guilt, that's not sympathy anymore that's showing support. Stop watching 🌽 and start try to be decent human for once
@DetektivConan1000
@DetektivConan1000 5 ай бұрын
@@luckymoon1162 where is written I sympathize him ?
@s9744073e
@s9744073e 5 ай бұрын
@@DetektivConan1000 No please, there is no such thing as change so quickly with men of this mind-set unless they become a monk or turn into some saint. If he went to France to party its already so obvious his so ready to continue his malicious activities else where in other countries...
@BaranoWorld02
@BaranoWorld02 Ай бұрын
I read somewhere that this is not a video but a reminder. In case yall thought we forgot, yeah we didn’t. I swear, everyday you’ll find a reason to hate men even more. Sending my prayers to all the women in South Korea. Pay attention to the sentences these men receive. That tells you everything you need to know about how SK treats women.
@GraceBennett-r4z
@GraceBennett-r4z 6 ай бұрын
It was only mentioned in passing but it’s vitally important for Western viewers to understand how HORRIBLE mysogyny and sexism in Korea is. Publicly saying you are feminist is social and often career suicide. Korean men firmly believe women are lesser than and many just see them as sex objects or things to be owned. You might say “that happens in the West too” but it’s truly hard to comprehend how bad it is in Korea unless you have lived there.
@user-bv4gt1vk2k
@user-bv4gt1vk2k 6 ай бұрын
I have not lived in the west myself, but there is actually more to it. There are a very vast variety of feminism in the world, but some feminists in South Korea show very radical thoughts and actions. They have their own online communities where they casually show hate on the male gender. Sexual harassment etc are made very often on those sites. Although not every 'feminists' in South Korea are like that, those radicals are so loud that many men have come to think of 'feminists' as 'man haters' instead of true feminism. Of course, feminism is in definite need in South Korea.
@ting-ting7001
@ting-ting7001 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing. I’m Chinese American and I can relate. Families want a son. Rather than a daughter. And women are criticised and torn to shreds. All the women who did speak up about Burning Sun was ridiculed for being the whistle blowers to this scandal. The female fans went after the reporters, because their reporting hurt their oppas.
@saturationstation1446
@saturationstation1446 5 ай бұрын
i heard if you just keep well off people out of political movements, they are guaranteed to succeed. when you allow those who seek to harm others for personal gain to lead you, all you'll get is your movement being destroyed from the inside by opportunist turn coats.
@addisabay1768
@addisabay1768 5 ай бұрын
​@@ting-ting7001fr this so disgusting the female fans are so annoying and cruel how u can support someone who Is devil little they know their oppa will do the same to them if they were around to them idk what they will give to them but k pop fans specially females like they gonna protect their oppa no matter who devil or their crime is this is so sad and irritating I bet there are alot k pop crime cases like this but it's hidden or protected
@kjjahh6418
@kjjahh6418 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@user-bv4gt1vk2kwhy do u call them radical…?because they speak loudly about the pain and life full of harassment they have to live with since they are young and speak about it? Korean men and most men are incels….women always have been put in pain for mens pleasure since the dawn of time so shut up
@Lostinablue
@Lostinablue 6 ай бұрын
the part that broke my heart the most is Hara... i had no idea she volunteered to uncover the officer. Power is no joke in Korea, esp to the level of being senior officer working for the president. Thats why even with so much damning evidence he had no charges, just 'fired'. She did it knowing that it would anger so many powerful people and she would not have a peaceful career or life after. The only reasons quoted for her suicide are her ex bf's blackmailing and Sulli's death, but this must've played a big part too on top of everything else. Thank you for being so brave Hara, your actions brought justice to all the victims and punished the corrupt. We all know it now. Sorry that we couldn't protect you💔
@meia002
@meia002 5 ай бұрын
Im glad that it didn't cross choi's mind to treat Hara like that. She most likely felt betrayed that her close friend did the exact same thing her ex did to her. She deserved so much better and I hope in her next life, things will be better for her and Sulli too
@TT-hi8le
@TT-hi8le 5 ай бұрын
Sorry for the unrelated comment here. Please report on the Unification Church“統一教会”, a Korean c ult that has been targeting and brainwashing Japanese people, mainly women, for half a century. Its face is also expanding into American society as a company. And Trump may be fooled too.
@bca5729
@bca5729 5 ай бұрын
I am a South Korean woman. I am so grateful to the BBC for reporting in detail on incidents of gang rape, mass violence (torture, including the extraction of women's teeth), illegal filming and police cover-ups committed by Korean men in South Korea over the years. Before the BBC report, Korean women who had been sexually assaulted were afraid to report it because Korean men threatened to distribute videos of them being gang-raped. Despite the threats, brave victim Goo Hara tried to expose the crime, but was eventually murdered by a Korean man. A Korean man was captured on CCTV breaking into Goo Hara's house just before her death, but the Korean men concluded her death was a suicide. Even after the BBC report, police have not yet investigated the culprit. Another sexual assault victim also mustered up the courage to report it to the police, but Korean men accused her of making false accusations even though they knew she had been brutally sexually assaulted. On the other hand, the Korean man who committed the crime and the Korean male police officer who covered up the incident were either found not guilty or sentenced to only six months to 5 year in prison. Most foreigners seem to think that Korean male idols receive low punishment because they have a lot of assets. That's not true In Miryang, South Korea, dozens of Korean male high school students gang-raped a female high school student and distributed the video, but all were found not guilty. Most of the parents of those high school students were ordinary or poor people.
@bangbangchkchkbang
@bangbangchkchkbang 5 ай бұрын
​@@bca5729Omg! That's so horrible! Your comment must be read by a lot of people. Poor Hara and Korean girls, they are being used as toys of those Korean men! It just made me so grateful to be non-Korean. :'
@suzyq4183
@suzyq4183 7 ай бұрын
Reporter Kang is a warrior, she deserves to be thanked, not trolled.
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