BUYING A DAIKIN FIT?! Watch this FIRST or live with REGRET FOREVER!!

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[@markcotter2355]

I have been offering the Daikin FIT unit to our customers and they love it.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

We do too!

[@jacobstillson3498]

Like the workshop you started in Steven’s Love Daikin. Have a one to one VRV paired with DM96VC and Daikin 5” filter. Been working on Daikin products for the last 2 an half years. Love Daikin warranties. Great support team for Daikin.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

That's awesome! We have a VRV too they're great :) Thanks for watching and commenting

[@xxxDreamWeaver1958]

Bahahaha! How much did someone pay you to say that???

[@jacobstillson3498]

@@xxxDreamWeaver1958 I have my opinion of Daikin that I love there product. I have there product. Work on there product. Love how easy they are to work with. How Daikin stands by there product. Don’t know what product you like or why you like there product, but this is my opinion.

[@RB-hl3ux]

Ive had my daikin fit for three years and it’s fantastic, so quiet, the house is more evenly cooled and heated all the time, even in these hot Texas days now.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

That’s awesome! Yes we love to install them, super quiet and compact and the customers are always so happy. It’s definitely been hot in Texas recently!!

[@tnutss]

I’m about to get it installed tomorrow and have no idea what I’m getting into. Learning it now haha

[@arishem555]

can you share some details for me? to you have split or multi split? That damn fan is working non stop. And looks like I need separate thermostat installed so fan will work only when I need to cool it down. Otherwise constantly working fan bringing moisture somehow.

[@RB-hl3ux]

Yes, the fan runs a lot, but most of the time it runs at a lower speed, I had the same perception that the fan ran too much, but is doing its job, don’t worry about it.

[@arishem555]

@@RB-hl3ux I wouldn't worry if I wouldn't have high humidity. And they never stop I think. They keep pushing air per manual. And the only way to stop rolling it from what I read is to have remote thermostat

[@cwdrake09]

If I was in Denver you'd have a customer for sure haha good video and way to top the video off 🤣

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Haha thanks! 😂

[@AFvet612]

Awesome video and very helpful for someone in the market for hvac replacement. I would use you guys but I’m in Minnesota!

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Awesome thank you! There’s a lot of great Daikin dealers in Minnesota, our supplier Stevens is based in Minnesota, your state has the nicest people lol 🙌 every time I’ve been there everyone’s so friendly. Thanks for watching 😁

[@nick.bender]

Daikin dealer and Stevens customer here. Almost every system we put in is a hybrid system using Daikin fit enhanced heat pumps.

[@frankchang8311]

Thank you.This is a very good education class.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

You are welcome! Thanks for watching!

[@yuumetal2363]

I use Blue and Black Daikin S25VTSXS-A since 2018. works perfectly.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Right on!

[@torinbrown8196]

Interesting video. Only came to my feed as I was looking into the Daiken ASXH504210 they installed at my house recently. Can't say anything about it as I haven't moved back in since the fire 18 months ago. Was looking at Bosch but damnnnn those are expensive!

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Right on, the Bosch it just depends on the contractor honestly because our parts cost is more competitive than some systems of comparable efficiency

[@elizabethoconnor6175]

I live in Ontario Canada where the weather can get into the minus temps. Is the Daikin heat pump (80k) good enough to heat in the more rigid of temps alone or should i go with a gas furnace and Daikin air handler?

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

You’re going to want backup heat in Canada. Either a dual fuel with a furnace backup, or air handler with electric heat kit but 80% furnace backup heat is probably solid… your heat pump will typically be running when it’s 0F and warmer, (-18C and warmer)

[@winly7450]

I just replaced an old 13 SEER single stage unit with furnace with a 17SEER Daikin Fit Heat pump. I ran into two problems. 1) Surprisingly, there was absolutely no energy savings on my summer power bill. 2) It produces a loud buzzing noise in the wall in the winter. No real good reasons given for why the Daikin Fit wasn't more energy efficient. The manufacturer says the Daikin line sets run at higher pressures in general and especially in the winter. And this likely causes this buzzing in the walls. They suggest running the line set up the wall externally to remove the buzzing noise. Are you familiar with this issue? And will running the line set up the wall definitely remove the buzzing line set issue? In your video it seems like the line set was also ran externally up the wall. Any feed back would be helpful. THANKS!!

[@jacobstillson3498]

I don’t know what is going on with the buzzing noise, but it sounds like there could be possibly a problem with installation. As far as energy efficiency, you may need a technician to come and dial certain settings in and field settings. To get better, energy, efficiency, and savings out of it depending on where you live you should also contact your utilities provider because they may actually provide certain rebates. In Colorado Springs. I have witnessed people getting $1200 rebate from the Colorado Springs Utilities for a VRV and high-efficiency furnace combo.

[@Dragonfiregum]

Alot of it can be the type of install. if your unit is in an unconditioned space and running low and slow then it's not getting the air to the space like something at speed would be. Your losing it before you can use it.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Agree with the comments below. Maybe look at duct sealing if it wasn't done, but the buzzing could be mitigated with a linset ran externally probably... I would have thought it was there before though so if this is new that's odd, this can be from compressor vibrations if the linset inside the wall is braced to tightly to a stud or something in an area you spend time in then it might transfer somehow. Hope it get's resolved if you're still having issues let us know. Insulation and duct sealing can go a long way if those weren't done. The energy consumption should definitely be less unless you changed your usage like setting the thermostat lower or higher for example with the new system but even then, the fit is normally pretty efficient

[@vampov]

I live in SLC UT and I'm looking at the numbers and it rarely gets below 10F... So I'm thinking if I get the SkyAir I don't really need a gas backup. I assume if you don't have the dual fuel setup that should save you on the total install purchase price. I have solar and have a ton of banked surplus power so if I have those extremely rare days it goes below -4F I assume I can run my 3 space heaters in the house to hold me over until the next day it goes back above 0F. But I can't remember the last time it was below 5F.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

You’re probably fine but either way you’ll have backup heat with an electric heat kit if you’re going with an air handler. I would get a quote for both, and also consider checking with a local contractor because Daikin has a 120V air handler coming out soon (all are 208/240V currently) and with that it’s easy to delete a furnace without needing a 240V electrical circuit if you don’t want / need backup heat. Dual fuel (having a furnace too) will maybe add a little to the price but because you still have an air handler I don’t know how much the difference would be. Air handler is normally less vs. a furnace / evap coil combo.

[@johndreyer9730]

The Fit is a fantastic system

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

I agree!

[@modquad18]

Could you explain Inverter units. Do these convert AC to DC and all of the components within the condenser are DC? If that’s the case, could I bypass the inverter and power directly with DC from my solar system?

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Correct, but no you can’t bypass it because (simple version) all of the electronics on the board are not necessarily DC, and I think there’s variability with the power from your solar which is why it’s designed for AC, because most systems are grid tie. Honestly eventually the technology might shift to DC and I know some companies are bypassing the grid tie / inverter process because you lose power converting from DC to AC and going DC to DC appliance is a lossless transfer of power (like for charging vehicles or running a DC air conditioner). I will see what I can do to make a video on the topic or have a special guest on / engineer to explain it

[@modquad18]

@@TheHVACDopeShow Thanks. Would be great to see a video explaining best equipment and methods for powering via direct DC!

[@arishem555]

Can you please advise, what thermostat option I have for FVXS series other than $800 one+ ? Fan is running constantly and there is no way to stop it. I would love to have something way cheaper even wired standalone okay, - but once it's running non-stop, - it's raising humidity slowly back.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

That's odd there's a fan setting in the thermostat control so you should be able to turn the fan to off mode if you want and adjust the fan speed up and down. Normally we run the fan on low for air circulation. The Daikin one touch is now out and eliminated the wheel. I don't know if your dealer will swap it out for you but it is a newer thermostat. I have the one+ as well in our home and haven't had any issues with it. I believe you can change dehumidify settings in the thermostat, it's an overcool setting / dehumidify setting in the installer settings during commissioning.

[@scottdoran2683]

Cut jb jumper on indoor

[@chickens3050]

Got our 2 ton outdoor cold climate unit with a 3 ton indoor unit. I noticed the fan noise was a bit much. Found the dealer edit option on the thermostat and turned down the heat fan speed on all 3 levels to 15% reduction. Now it is a lot better. Is there anything else that should be done to double check the air flow is correct?

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

No that should do it, that air handler is probably just putting out more airflow than needed we do the same / similar things often on systems to match customer comfort. Most of the higher end systems with more settings just require that type of fine tuning to get it just right, but that shouldn’t pose an issue at all as long as your comfortable

[@josevalencia5145]

Thanks!

[@jeremyalmquist1922]

Is the Daikin fit compatible with existing equipment or would I have to purchase a Daikin indoor unit?

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Common question and they now have a gateway adapter so it can pair with existing non-daikin equipment. They work great, we install them regularly. The Daikin fit heat pump though does not work with a gateway adapter so if you want an inverter heat pump with an existing furnace, then the Mitsubishi intelliheat is an awesome option and has sizing options up to 3.5 tons.

[@DemetriosMallous90]

I am in the market to replace my heat pump with an inverter style but I have to keep my existing line set and wire (18/8) due to being in a townhome with units next to me. Unsure if I can use the Daikin Fit for my needs, but looking at the Fit, Gree Flexx, and Westinghouse. Not sure if I can use my existing wire between outdoor and indoor units.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Yes the Daikin Fit will communicate with regular 2 wire thermostat wire. VRV life will not though... but Daikin fit shouldn't have any issues. I realize this is a tardy reply so hopefully it was in time, thanks for commenting!

[@mikewilliams5948]

How did the project go? I live in a 1600sq ft townhome built in 2008- a quad- 4 units, and my unit is on the end. The company that offered an estimate did not mention anything about it being an issue. Interesting? Did you go with this unit? How are things going? Did it help your electric bill? All feedback is welcomed thank you.

[@jochimbenschneider1915]

I hate Heat pumps. I live in the Midwest and I am on my second Trane heat pump since 2007. The first one was a seer, 14 electric heat strip air handler and right after 10 years the compressor went out so I bought another trane seer 18 XI Tam 7 electric air handler, and I have had nothing but trouble with it for the last six years. I am so angry and frustrated, and I spoke with a new good guy in our area who owns his own small HVAC company and does all the work himself with one helper. He said Trane is too expensive and they’re not worth it. He installs Dakin and Amana and he said those are the better units, and I am inclined to believe him. His prices are very reasonable too instead of so expensive like these companies. $75 per hour and he said he’ll beat anybody’s price in the area because he has a low overhead and that’s what I like. These bigger companies think they got to charge you so much. I hate big corporations and I don’t like big companies either because they always want a lot of money. I am old fashion like my parents were, and that’s the best way to be whenever it comes to money and quality. Stick with a small business owner who doesn’t have a ton of employees because he will almost always treat you better if he knows how to do good work. And I have seen bigger companies who have some of the shittiest workers who come and go every two years.

[@daveyboy8907]

Fact

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

It’s a double edged sword, we’re always aiming for a balance ourselves, but even with a handful of technicians it’s still expensive to run a company

[@NewShockerGuy]

I was planning on putting a Daikin LV series 18k BTU mini split in my two car garage but I keep having people tell me to skip it completely and go Mitsubishi. They keep stating they are the standard and even though Daikin is still considered a top tier manufacture it can't be compared and not to even waste time with it... Now I'm on the fence..lol Seems like the LV series was all the features I was looking for.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

It depends they’re both solid and both have 12 year warranties. Idk we sell both but we’re primarily a daikin dealer… if a Mitsubishi diamond dealer installs their equipment often times they have a 12 year warranty as well. I’ve never installed the LV but we’ve installed their slim duct units on VRV life systems and haven’t had issues. I had a headache with their DZK system once but that’s technically not even a daikin product. Long story either will be fine especially on the 1 to 1 (1 indoor and 1 outdoor unit).

[@xxxDreamWeaver1958]

Good job! YOU MADE THE RIGHT DECISION TO GO WITH MITSUBISHI. We will go with them after our Daikin is replaced next year. Can't afford to replace this junk this year!

[@quanmeg]

I am on my second year with my Daiken Fit and I LOVE it. My bill is much lower and the equipment is totally silent. The reason you hear so much about Mitsubushi is because Mitsubshi is sold one off to any old hack contractor but Daiken is only sold to Daiken trained professionals. Half of the problems you will ever have will be the result of a bad installation by a hack installer. Daiken installers typically don't do a bad job because they care enough about what they are doing to get properly trained.

[@godisgood5038]

Will a 12000 btu cool a 700 square foot home? Thanks for sharing!

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Should be fine honestly but just depends on the region, but that should keep up fine. I would just make sure it’s rated for the hottest days outside. If you’re in a moderate climate (under 105F) then you’ll probably be fine with most manufacturers

[@godisgood5038]

@@TheHVACDopeShow I'm in the bay area (Berkeley). I was going to choose a 18000 but wasn't sure. Our home is small as I mentioned. The price difference between the 12,000 and the 18,000 is $1,000.

[@D8099.]

We have a few vacation rentals there. We actually need to upgrade everything. We live in Dallas. Will that Daiken work in this zone on a large ducted system in an attic. Our Denver homes all have mini splits that are nasty and need replacing. Also do newer mini splits have uv lighting on those coils to stop mold. That’s a big problem in Texas with higher humidity so our coils are covered from every angle with uv lights.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Yes you could add a UV light that’s not a problem and will reduce mold or algae growth. I know this is very common in high humidity climates. I’m not sure if any of the mini splits have built in UV lights, that’s not something I’ve heard of but in Denver / Colorado in general we don’t have as many issues with mold etc because humidity is so low here. If you live in Denver we’d be happy to take a look. I’m curious what the Dallas Dealers would have to say about UV lights or how many they use typically or what type. We use a lot of Reme Halo lights in Colorado.

[@marts5555]

What is crazy to me is the inverter controlled market has been around for 20 years + , I am surprised to still see direct on line systems still available in your market .

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Yeah it's kind of a trip, and there's no rebates for inverters but there is for a 13 SEER AC in our market... mind boggling

[@anthropod76]

In my area SE NC they act like inverters are not a thing or are evil. I’m getting the Amana S (similar to fit) installed soon and they said this was only their 4th inverter install in the last 5 years. I feel good about who’s putting it in so I’m not bothered by the low install numbers.

[@blainelesicko8262]

I replaced my system in my house around 2 months ago. I’ve had two new systems in the past 6-7 years. One was a comfortmaker and the other was rudd. The comfortmaker compressor failed within 4 years. Some people may like rudd because of the price but I was never happy with it. It struggled to keep my house cool and it went bad quicker than the comfortmaker. I will say the guy I was using wasn’t worth a damn and that could of been the problem. I went with a new company and they carry carrier and daikin. I was originally going to go with carrier but the company informed me that Daikin had a better warranty and it would save me a few dollars. They recommended a 3 ton unit but I was borderline between the 3 and the 3.5 ton in my area. I decided to go with the 3.5 ton because I like my house at 69 degrees. It was right at $14,000 for the system, but I did add a humidifier for the winter which was like a $850-$900 option. I can already tell a difference in my house and my bill has been quite a bit cheaper. So far it was a great investment and was worth the money.

[@blainelesicko8262]

Update- my bill has been between $150-$200 cheaper than my previous units. It’s not really a flaw but only downside I have noticed is the coils get dirty easily. The coils are more exposed than a traditional unit. It’s nothing that anyone can’t handle. Only takes less than 10 minutes to spray off and clean using a hose with low pressure. It’s still working like a champ. Puts out a lot of air and I’m very happy with it.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

That's awesome to hear thanks for posting! That's a pretty big savings on your bill not bad! Not sure what it was before but that's great to hear. We love the Fit I've never had any complaints on them that we've personally installed.

[@elizabethoconnor6175]

How big is your home? I live in a 3 story townhouse and wondered if a 3 ton, 17.2 seer, variable speed unit, would cool the 3rd floor bedrooms enough.

[@blainelesicko8262]

@@elizabethoconnor6175 I live in a two story ranch and only cool the main level. My main level is a around 2300 square feet. Besides your square footage the size of your system also depends on where you live.

[@twoweeledsoto6072]

@@blainelesicko8262 What state are you in? I haven't had a chance to run the AC. I rarely use a heater, but will be running the AC close to 24/7 when it gets hot. I'm in California. I'll be able to get a better idea how efficient Daiken is. Difficult for me to compare a heating bill to an AC bill. I had a Goodman AC before this, which is considered lower end. But that Goodman never stopped! It was excellent. No complaints here about Goodman. It just got too old and didn't want to risk it breaking down in the middle of summer.

[@stewy_604]

Great review. Am about to pull the trigger on a Daikin FIT system for my home. We're undergoing a major reno, and the original HVAC from 1994 will be swapped out for this HE system. Thanks again for sharing.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

For sure that’s awesome, congrats they’re a great system.

[@smokeysmith1282]

Wondering what the supply air temperature is gonna be at the supply duct during the heating mode with an outdoor ambient temperature of 18 F. What say you? Do Daikins use electric heat / emergency heat back up?

[@rx5969]

Did you end up getting a FIT? What state are you in? How do you like it?

[@gilbrook]

Can Daikin Fit replace an older outside single stage unit w/o replacing home’s 20 year old high efficiency (92%) gas forced air heating system? ThankU.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Technically yes, with a daikin fit gateway adapter but I would strongly advise against it because your furnace is 20 years old. I would only do that if your furnace was newer and you wanted a daikin fit…you’d be better off with a Daikin paired system. If you’re going for a Daikin fit heat pump, I would switch to an 80% furnace if it’s allowed in your area like the DM80VC because it’s a dual fuel set up that way, but one of the nuances currently is you can only do a dual fuel set up on Daikin fit 3 ton or smaller, heat pumps. Otherwise if you don’t want a heat pump and you’re wanting to stick with a high-efficiency I would do the DM 96VC or DM 97mc high-efficiency furnaces in pair that with a daikin fit AC (cool only condenser).

[@WrathOfN8]

@The HVAC Dope Show sounds like you are recommending a homeowner go from a 92% to an 80%?

[@coopaudiovisuellegts7428]

Very interesting! wow, great video! how does the FIT that compare to the GREE ultra heat inverter series?

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

I had to look up Gree because I wasn't Familiar! I don't have an opinion on Gree other than what I read on their spec sheets but it sounds like it has a lower capacity and is meant to maintain capacity even in super cold temps as it says it can run down to -36F. I know the Daikin Fit Heat Pump is rated down to -10F but it will not operate at full capacity (is my understanding) and starts to lose capacity once temps get into the single digit lows. That's why for most markets the Daikin Fit is an amazing value proposition, but if you're in really cold temps a Daikin VRV Life or a Gree system might handle lower temps better. Part of what we consider too is that natural gas costs are typically cheaper than electricity in most markets, so that's why it's efficient to run a furnace as backup heat when it get's REALLY cold (which in Denver is anything under 10F) and so all the systems we design out here that are "Duel Fuel" (Furnace paired with a Heat Pump) are designed to have the furnace run when it gets really cold which is probably only a few nights or so a year.

[@coopaudiovisuellegts7428]

@@TheHVACDopeShow Oh ya? GREE goes lower? We're in Canada, winter goes down to -30C (-22F). We wanted to get a Daikin Fit DZ17VSA36 paired with 15k FVFEC electric furnace. But here in Montreal, a similar GREE combo is 3k cheaper. Hard to decide!

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

@@coopaudiovisuellegts7428 Cheaper isn't always better, Gree is a no name I haven't heard of so I don't know how much I'd trust their warranty or tech. It's most likely private labeled and the reason it's cheaper is the dealer installing it, not the equipment itself, which is another red flag for Gree. Daikin makes low ambient equipment that does the same but good luck with the Gree! Maybe get a second opinion from another dealer in your area.

[@PHamster]

@@TheHVACDopeShow Gree is well known outside the United States since it's a Chinese brand vs Daikin is Japanese. GREE Flexx is also known as ACPro X Series, MrCool Universal, or GE Connect. (Assuming Ducted Version) That said, what's the total power consumption of the Outdoor Unit and Indoor? Is the Daikin FIT compatible with any Indoor Air Handler (aka 24VAC)?

[@erikehlert]

@@TheHVACDopeShow I can't help but think that a "dual" fuel system is just a way to sell more product. If you only need to run the furnace a few nights a year (I live in Denver for 30 years, so below 10 degrees maybe 20 nights and maybe two days in a winter). You are asking the consumer to spend $5000+ for the furnace. Doesn't the heat pump have a resistive heating option? I know those cost a lot to operate, but if it's only for those short periods, then it would take a LOT of years to make up the difference of adding a furnace wouldn't it? BTW I really would love the Denver rebate to come back but I suspect it was a once in a lifetime rebate opportunity. If they do it again it'll be smaller max/household.

[@jeffshaffer2491]

I’ve seen some bad publicity on the Daikin Smart thermostat. What is your experience with your customers?

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

For the most part they work without issue and is a lot better than it was when it first came out. The technology is actually based on the CTK04 (Honeywell communicating thermostat) so it's not new, just a different interface... the only gripe I have is when it doesn't work it can be annoying because it's communicating so it's more work for us lol, but that's on the installer not the customer. I would say you'd never know the difference honestly, it's similar to a nest or eco bee. The big thing is making sure you're wiring is correct and you have good wire connections, because that can affect communication. All in all I don't think we have any more issues with them than we do with a normal thermostat and non communicating system and they've done an excellent job supporting the product, between training and also stocking them at the parts house so there is a no issue getting them to swap one under warranty. And as far as reliability like I said they've done a great job so far supporting us as dealers so we continue to sell them.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Also Daikin really wants to sell more Fits, it's one of the main things they always talk to the Dealers about and as a result they've continued to up their game when it comes to supporting the product line / keeping things in stock etc.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

The general consensus is our customers love them as they are very quiet, space saving, and efficient, and I don't think people complain about the Daikin One anymore than android users complain about apple or vice versa lol. It's pretty easy to navigate, we have two Daikin One thermostats on our VRV at the office and they work without issue... and they have built in wifi whereas the CTK04 does not (unless they've changed that feature, but I don't think they have as of last time I checked), the CTK04 requires an internet gateway which in my opinion is annoying. That's where I think the Daikin One stands out, they know they're competing with Nest and Ecobee so they have to be on their game as those are popular products to compete with!

[@bradasbury7006]

About to get mine installed next week. Insane more rebates aren't offered on this... Do we know why?

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Yeah I don’t know it’s bizarre lol… for whatever reason the AHRI does not know how to rate inverters and the EER rating is typically not high enough to qualify for a rebate. Daikin and several other manufacturers are speaking with rebate agencies like Xcel energy In order to change this

[@bradasbury7006]

@@TheHVACDopeShow I know it's just speculation but any chance they may allow retroactive claims to these rebates?

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

@@bradasbury7006 My guess is no but you never know!

[@PHamster]

@@TheHVACDopeShow Does SEER2 ideally fix this? This is almost like how the EPA doesn't know how to rate an EV car's range and instead came up with "MPGe"

[@rx5969]

How do you like your system?

[@tcmr5775]

Getting this installed tomorrow. Upgrading from a 3.5-ton 13 SEER from 2002 to the 4-ton Daikin Fit, which I believe is 17 or 18 SEER. Hoping to see reduced electricity bills here in the hot Texas months.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Right on they're a great system, we love them. Did they say you need to upsize because of your load? Just make sure you have big enough duct work. A .5 ton increase isn't a big deal and inverters ramp up and down but having plenty of airflow is always important. Most Daikin Dealers are up to snuff on that though, but I think you'll be very pleased they're great!

[@tcmr5775]

@@TheHVACDopeShow they replaced our duct work with a larger size! I'm so happy with the system!

[@wayneogburn]

My Fit continues to be junk. Doesn't cooI and seems to gobble electric. I have a Gree that was put in at same that seems to be great..Bills are lower.

[@missyneal9411]

@tvmr5775 How have your power bills been the last 2 months? Just got ours installed today so I’m disappointed to see negative feedback. Hoping it helps our power go down. We got quoted a Gree but the system was mismatched 4/5 ton air handler/compressor. And our house isn’t big enough for 5 ton.

[@tcmr5775]

@@missyneal9411 they've gone up a bit honestly 😭 but it has been record breaking hot here so it's been on all day long

[@davidvuchetich3045]

Installing Daikin Fit on my new home......Also looked at Bosch....any opinion Bosch vs the Daikin fit

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

We're a Daikin dealer so I'm kind of partial. I trust Daikin's warranty (12 years) and they know their product when it comes to inverters and make a very high quality product... Can't speak to bosch, I don't like their power tools lol... To save yourself a headache make sure you put a surge protector on the condenser. This prevents fried boards / etc from power surges, definitely worth it on any inverter system.

[@scottdoran2683]

Rector seal rsh50vrm best surge protection board blows up 253 vac

[@whocares0316]

Im replacing my heat pump which is only about 9 1/2 years old. One of the companies i have a quote from is proposing a Daiken Variable speed system vs a Trane single stage replacement unit. I never heard of Daiken before but the Daiken seems to make a lot of sense for me over a single stage system. I am also looking at a Carrier single stage and Goodman single stage system. No one i have a quote from has recommended a Daiken variable speed system. Dont any other mfgs like Carrier offer this different kind of technology?

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Yes most of the manufacturers have inverter equipment, but the specs and prices are going to vary widely. They're often more expensive than the Daikin Fit because even Daikin has a higher SEER DX9 inverter that is a pretty big price jump when compared to a Daikin Fit. Most inverters are the way to go because they're so quiet and the efficiency is typically a savings of 30-40% compared to a single stage system.

[@MatthewBThompson5570]

Is it possible to run the Fit on a generator during a power back out?

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Yes for sure, you can run anything on a generator but the daikin fit is very low amp draw.

[@RB-hl3ux]

DaiKin has just built a huge complex outside of Houston Texas where they make the Daikin fit. 😀 So far having my Daikin fit for over three years had one problem the plastic outside unit fan blade became loose on the motor mount and had to be replaced but was covered under the 12 year warranty for the parts.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Yes! The factory is impressive we went down there and took a tour, pretty cool

[@qingwenyang5197]

Hi, did you get your Daikin fit in Houston? I want one so much but I don't know which contractor I should go to

[@WrathOfN8]

The Fit's are not built in TX. They are coming from Twain, soon hey will be built in Mexico. Every other Furnace and AC for our US market is built in TX

[@akiata43]

@@WrathOfN8 I know this is an old comment, but the Fit is now built in Waller, Tx at the Daikin plant.

[@johnl3239]

Just remember, the Daikin Fit will run continuously whereas the conventional AC will cycle on and off.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Very true, we always try to point that out but the longer run times tend to help out here in colorado because most systems are in the basement which makes cooling the upstairs difficult

[@mikewilliams5948]

@@TheHVACDopeShow If this is the case, that it runs continuously, where does the "lower electric bill" play in at? I always hear about it being a huge pro when advertised. TY

[@motionislife4879]

Will daikin dz17vsa361ba big enough for a 3000 sq ft house? Spec says 3 ton, that is good for 2000 sq ft. But it also says 1.5 to 5 ton variable, what does that mean?

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

You want to have a heat load calc performed if you’re unsure because it depends what’s above or below grade, sun exposure, insulation and especially climate. In phoenix you’d probably have 7 tons of cooling for that, but in Denver might be 3-5 depending on if it’s all above grade or what the layout is. The model you referenced is a 3 ton, so if it says 1.5-5 ton variable that’s just the model line and what’s available as far as sizing. Your contractor should be able to perform a block load calc at least and know based on when your home was built and design what will work

[@motionislife4879]

@@TheHVACDopeShow Thanks, I'm in SLC, Utah region, home is South-West facing, with a lot of Sun in summer, 1000 ft basement, most of it below grade, 2000 sqft main level plus second floor.

[@juniortavares8939]

Daikin fit When will this new air conditioner be on sale here in the United States?

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

It’s available now!

[@marktheshark-mw8kq]

Fantastic product. I enjoy working on diakin units.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Likewise they’re great!

[@RJeezy55]

Is Variable Speed and Inverter the same thing?

[@av8rbri473]

no the compressor runs at variable speeds The lower the speed, the lower the power usage an inverter is a power unit that changes DC power to AC power

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Explanation below nailed it :) In terms of what you as the consumer will notice a variable speed compressor / inverter system will ramp up and down and that's the "variable speed" feature of an inverter driven compressor.

[@joeythedime1838]

Great videos on the Fit: I am South West Florida any 2,500 sq ft ranch house with 12 foot ceilings. I am replacing an 12 year old Lennox XC21 system (3 coils later). I have been quoted a 4 ton Dakin Fit Heat Pump (16 Seer) and a 4 ton Train XV20 (20 Seer) with the Trane composite air handler and 15kw heat strip. Both have a 10 parts and labor warranty. The Trane system is about $2,400 more expensive. Which system do you think would be the best investment?

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Daikin but I’m partial we’re a daikin dealer. In Florida you don’t need a back up heat kit with a Daikin fit heat pump the heat pump will always keep up in your temps. It’s pretty warm.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

I would check with the dealer and make sure the daikin Fit will keep up that seems a little small for that square footage in Florida. In Colorado for a home that size depending on the load and design of the house you might only need a 3 1/2 or 4 ton out here but I’m surprised that’s all you need in Florida for that size home. If that’s what’s in there currently in terms of sizing and you’ve been comfortable and happy with it then that’s probably a safe bet.

[@ksoonsoon]

I had a Daikin installer come by today for a quote and he told me that they are no longer selling the Fit due to a high number of condenser failures. AZ market. Is this being seen elsewhere as well? Kinda had my heart set on buying one. Thx

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

I have not seen this, and find it surprising considering it's based on their existing and established inverter technology. The only issues we've had with them usually come down to wiring / communication issues if the connections aren't made well by the installer but this is an easy fix and has nothing to do with the unit itself.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

As far as compressor failures though I haven't heard that, the systems are pretty "smart" in that they have multiple sensors to prevent them from damaging themselves. And Daikin actually offers a unit replacement guarantee on these for 12 years meaning if the compressor conks out within 12 years they'll give you an entire new Daikin fit condenser as opposed to just a compressor warranty like other manufacturers. I would get a second opinion from another Daikin Dealer in your area because if they're all saying that then it might be something specific to a batch of units or design conditions. I know Phoenix gets above 115 so they might have a different unit that works better in those conditions. If you'd like a referral for a Daikin dealer let me know and I'll reach out to my rep to see if they have someone!

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Just curious, did they have a different product they recommended, like the DX20VC or another inverter? Thanks for the post! And fist bump on the Bitcoin logo pic, lol we're Defi fans over here!

[@ksoonsoon]

@@TheHVACDopeShow thanks for the reply. Yes they did run me through the other daikon products from single stage through variable. They seem much more expensive than their counterparts from other brands however. That is one of the reasons why I was looking to the fit since I understood that although it is a high-tech product, the way it was made allows daikon to sell it for closer to the cost of a traditional single stage. Both saving some money and getting a better product was very appealing.

[@ksoonsoon]

@@TheHVACDopeShow I was told they were replacing so many units they determined it was no longer a viable product due to all of the downtime and related waiting on parts or the replacement units themselves

[@petediaz2388]

Cost to install hight end, 5Ton, 3,200sq ft home, dust anti-

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Depends on a lot of factors but the company and their overhead is the biggest variable. This varies widely from Region too... I hear prices from other states sometimes and my jaw hits the floor (both from "low" and "high" prices). Get 3 bids if you can from local reputable contractors and that should give you a baseline.

[@45eno]

I received 3 quotes for replacing my 22yr old furnace and york ac. I was almost sold on the Fit but then another bid was presented and it was mentioned to check the BBB for Daikin and wow a nightmare under that name. Lots of people heavily regretting the Daikin product. We live in the Pacific Northwest with mild winters usually and a few months of 80's/90's. Almost thinking the standard American Standard 80/95 furnace and 3 ton AC for our 2200 sq. ft. drafty home would be a better fit. It's about 12k and the Fit is 15.6k after all the rebates. Just don't trust the governments motivation and their solutions for green is usually poo. Take the florescent replacement bulbs that you dare not break or release toxins in the house with a long list of how to deal with it. No thanks green government initiatives are usually crap.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Surprised that Daikin has more complaints than others? I’m pretty sure all of them have had their fair share but you won’t regret a basic AC / furnace combo by any means. Biggest thing with the Fit is sound

[@scott9593]

Just got a new unit and I find that the fan inside the house in the closet is very loud

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

You or the installer can adjust the blower settings and ramping profiles. You can also have them insulate the return box with duct insulation to quiet things down

[@MrBradfordbiker]

That background music is really annoying

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

No worries if you check out our newer videos they don’t have music :) you’re not the first person to mention something!

[@mememe84]

If you are paying the competition for a second opinion, i will trust anything you say

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Thanks! That’s the idea 😁 sometimes they will contradict us but the offer to pay always protects our integrity at least which is whats most important to us… just want people to know we have good intentions even if we make a mistake!

[@twoweeledsoto6072]

All I can find is dealers reviewing Daikin FIT. Even less reviews about Daikin Comfort. Can't tell if it's any good. Nobody is reviewing them except dealers!!

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Homeowners don’t usually make KZbin videos about HVAC is all lol, Daikin fit is a good product very quiet, sometimes no news is good news… if people were pissed off and they weren’t working well you can trust that they would take to the internet to express their rage lol!

[@twoweeledsoto6072]

@@TheHVACDopeShow Generally speaking, you're probably right. They don't seem to be in the main stream yet. Appears to be a strong heavy promotion in dealerships to sell these. So, they really haven't had time to show their stuff with their newer lineups. They are quiet! They are slower at heating. They don't save nearly as much energy as expected, and this is on the internet as owners do comment on energy high consumption.🤣 The thermostat isn't horrible, but not as good as Ecobee. But it is quiet. But yes, time will tell.

[@rivergate950]

I was hoping for a technical overview of the system, this is kind of just a big long infomercial.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Can do that on the next Daikin Fit one, thanks for the request. Like a “how to” geared towards technicians? Or just break down of the Daikin fit technology and what you’re getting with the system

[@leevogel9487]

No one in Houston knows how to fix them; my 4 year old daikin 18k heat pump only blows cold when it is sunny and very hot outside…everyone wants to throw expensive parts and daikin support won’t help.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

This sounds like a settings issue… there’s a cooling range but it should be able to cool year round in Houston, installer settings should be able to fix this I’m sorry you’re having a hard rime

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

If you’d like a referral lmk we can try to find someone to help you out in Houston

[@RB-hl3ux]

I’ve seen for sale online covers for the Daikin fit type of unit outside. There just a flat cover to shade the coil. Do you think this is worth it as far as helping the unit out by shading the Coil during the day from the sun? One thing I wish DaiKin had was more protection for the coil with the unit outside. Thanks 😊

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

If it inhibits airflow at all I would say no but they're designed to be outside. If it doesn't hurt airflow it doesn't hurt it to be in the shade, but if it blocks air around the condenser I would avoid it!

[@davidschiess9525]

Daikin FIT is a wonderful unit! We have sold hundreds to our customers. You cannot beat a 12 year parts /unit replacement warranty. I dont know who this guy is on this channel. I have installed/sold millions of dollars worth of Trane, Carrier, Lennox, Rheem, Ruud over the years. I will only choose Dakin for my customers and nothing else. This video is a joke.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Lol did you watch the whole video? We recommend the Daikin fit and love it too

[@mikewilliams5948]

@@TheHVACDopeShow Must've watched another video- i'm legit dead 🤣😭

[@pilotrserra]

Get rid of the music…we cannot hear you at times

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Old video we know 😁 and agree, we’ve stopped music that was a common complaint!

[@CaptainKoozmack]

You could lose the background music and have a much cleaner presentation! somewhat annoying and distracting, cant finish the video.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Agreed, we’ve cut the music in newer videos 😁 thanks for taking the time to comment!

[@AnyBodyWannaPeanut]

Jeez what a clickbait title.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

Big time lol

[@wayneogburn]

It took over 6 months to install my Daikin Fit. It is just junk and Daikin does NOT back them up. It took four months for Daikin to recognize the problem and then they put two band aids on the unit. They did not replace it per their warranty...it is junk and I paid $10k for it to work efficiently with my battery backed up solar. I seriously doubt it will.

[@WrathOfN8]

That sounds like the contractor messed up your experience. I work for a Daikin dealer and the Fit or any other variable speed AC property sized and installed will impress the homeowner.

[@derekjackson3990]

Don’t blame the manufacturer or the equipment, blame the installer. Every major manufacturer spend millions upon millions on r&d and have teams of engineers designing their equipment. There really isn’t a bad manufacturer out there.

[@TonyTMusicc]

Daikin offers 12 year unit replacement for the fit . Sounds like the contractor fucked up

[@wayneogburn]

@@derekjackson3990 o, yes there is and it's Daikin...my unit is still eating energy. I can see but can't prove as I did early on.

[@derekjackson3990]

Mate think about it for just a moment. Who do you think messed up, a multi billion dollar company who has many many engineers designing their equipment or a bunch of high school drop outs who are selling and installing the equipment? I’m telling you whomever sold, sized, and installed the system screwed up.

[@DrMadMax]

I love how peoples first stated reason as to why they switch to a heat pump is going green instead of that it’s more convenient. Yes ,a heat pump is more efficient at generating heat than than the conventional counter part however without renewable energy your just indirectly shifting the source of energy you use to create heat. So, heat instead of being generated by fossil fuel in your home is being generated by electricity. Electricity still needs to be created somehow by the power plants. So, if you increase demand by going all electric you increase the demand for the generation of electricity ie still maintaining your carbon footprint. Without upgrading the electrical grid or increasing output of generation you will continue to have rolling blackouts and metering of electricity. Exactly what is seen in California who also is pushing all EVs sales by 2035 yet they are still metering their currentgrid. All this upgrade in the electric grid to meet the demand of all electric is only going to drive your electric bill up. We have seen a 300% increase in the supply charge in our electric bill. Also many renewables still have poor ROI and high costs. In addition, people still forget creation and recycling of solar panels, windmills, lithium batteries also has a significant carbon foot print and environmental impact. I am all for new technology but just call it out as it is.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

100% it’s a mess lol… all good points. We talk about too how one thing people don’t realize about “going green” is there is still a thermal footprint with an electric car because you have endo and exothermic reactions equivalent to 20-30 tons of heat energy lol. Very thorough comment! It’s expensive to add solar too, as long as it’s your dream home / forever home I don’t think it’s a bad idea at all. Recycling these components is going to be interesting in 20 years when it comes time for people to replace them.

[@buddy7485]

What seer

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

It’s classified / rated as a 17 but the AHRI will vary based on tonnage and the AHU or Furnace it is paired with

[@buddy7485]

@@TheHVACDopeShow was offered decline. I don't trust it

[@PHamster]

I don’t think that’s a fair comparison. I understand it’s efficient but for an Apples to Apples comparison, the outdoor condenser of the Daikin FIT should be placed outside

[@txtchjmb29]

it always is lol@@PHamster

[@samuelg3586]

Daikin = problems. Hard to troubleshoot. Intermittent problems take months to solve. Parts are not readily available. Not good in real life.

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

I haven’t had this experience. Their basic efficiency stuff (single stage equipment) is just like anything else, and Between their troubleshooting app for VRV / Communicating equipment I don’t think it’s any more complex than the other brands. If we had to wait for parts often we wouldn’t sell them so it might be an issue with your local distributor

[@mikewilliams5948]

I'm in the market right now, and local place is offering this very product- well almost, 3.5 ton daikin fit variable speed system inverter Heat pump. $1,500 instant rebate with the smart thermostat. Any feed back on this unit? Townhome 1600sq ft Florida home was built 2008, keeping all the vents, ect.. Installation, unit, cleaning all vents. $9k Accepting all suggestions and/or concerns Condenser: DZ6VS*42 Air Handler: DFVE42/48 AHRI: TBD Duct Cleaning 1.0 Rotobrush duct clean all supplies and returns Sanitation of duct system Clean all registers

[@TheHVACDopeShow]

It’s a great product, our best seller. Surprised by the price because thats very low compared to what we’re used to seeing but that’s always going to vary by region and contractor.

[@mikewilliams5948]

@@TheHVACDopeShow Thanks for the info- Technically the price is $10,500. The rebate drops it by $1500.