Buying Luxury is a Scam!

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Super Dacob

Super Dacob

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@chare73
@chare73 10 ай бұрын
I'm over expensive bags. I'm not an octopus, so I can carry them all at once.
@ezrmia
@ezrmia 10 ай бұрын
I grew up in a fashion city. These days, the people dress at varying degrees of copy paste. Whether it’s Fashion Nova or Tory Burch/Kate Spade or Hermes/Chanel/Vuitton, etc. It’s all the same. No true personality. Just copy paste at different price points. It’s pathetic.
@evianeyousef
@evianeyousef 10 ай бұрын
Hello, I agree! in former days there used to be a lot less mass production of merchandise. Also social media has its own impact, I remember in the 90s when me and my friends we all had our own unique style. But back then the amount of small private shops were bigger, the copy and paste era came later on 2000.
@buntyjoy1800
@buntyjoy1800 10 ай бұрын
Many years ago my sister was an Au pair,for a very wealthy family, in Paris. She was handed new clothes from Chanel and Dior told to remove the logo buttons and replace with plain ones.
@katem6562
@katem6562 10 ай бұрын
I’m not surprised that this was the case! EBay has lots of logo buttons for sale and for people who want the logo but can’t afford to buy the real thing
@marila4495
@marila4495 10 ай бұрын
@@katem6562 i think you misunderstood
@katem6562
@katem6562 10 ай бұрын
@@marila4495 what I meant is people who can’t afford to buy a garment from the luxury houses buy the buttons and put them on a non luxury item to look like they have bought it from the designer houses
@SouthernDawnie
@SouthernDawnie 10 ай бұрын
Great content Dacob! Last April 2023, as an anniversary gift my husband gave me 2 Chanel sweaters with the logo all over them. At the time I was so excited. However, I am actually embarrassed to wear them because of exactly what this video conveys!
@fordlafemme
@fordlafemme 10 ай бұрын
@@SouthernDawnie That was so sweet of your husband though!
@tonyabillings201
@tonyabillings201 10 ай бұрын
I still wear what I love- logo- no logo- I honestly do not care what anyone thinks- I am so over people these days!! Sometimes things just appeal to me and it may have a logo- it may not. Dior or target love it all. I am unbothered by anyone’s opinion these days!! ❤❤❤
@joemichael5155
@joemichael5155 10 ай бұрын
Exactly. People are gonna judge you anyway.
@lavishmedarling8249
@lavishmedarling8249 10 ай бұрын
Well… designer goods are a scam, quality goods are luxurious, but not all designer goods are good quality, so that means designer goods are not luxurious.
@marila4495
@marila4495 10 ай бұрын
You’re so right … I hate that certain brands automatically are considered „luxury“! When did we start to say „luxury“ instead of designer?
@Ulfscher
@Ulfscher 10 ай бұрын
Logos can be done in a stylish way, but it is tricky territory. Lots of logos, particularly from several different brands at the same time, easily makes you look like a confused shopaholic with very little discernment.
@KE-hf3ve
@KE-hf3ve 10 ай бұрын
The thing is it’s hard to find good quality clothing, quality materials. Even among contemporary brands, a lot of items are synthetic or poorly constructed! Certain designer brands do have amazing quality so these days i look for sales, go to the outlets etc. Even thrift! I went thrifting a few days ago and found multiple cashmere and merino wool pieces from Vince and the like for
@myopinionismine999
@myopinionismine999 10 ай бұрын
You are so right. I never understood the proudly wearing of head to toe brand's name/print. It screams "Hey Everyone, Look At Me" when in reality to others, "You Look Like A Tacky Tasteless Overdone Mess".
@natasa3412
@natasa3412 10 ай бұрын
I told my friend the other day that every time she sees someone with a luxury shopping bag, she should instantly know someone got scammed -and is proud of it 😂
@joemichael5155
@joemichael5155 10 ай бұрын
People spend their money however they want. I don’t understand why yall care so much. I do not care what people buy or have. 😂
@natasa3412
@natasa3412 10 ай бұрын
@@joemichael5155 and yet you’re still here…. And it’s not about having or not having, it’s about the shadiness of the companies selling us this sh*t
@DIYTRUTH
@DIYTRUTH 10 ай бұрын
8:42.....so listen Linda...."Next time you wanna sit in your Lamborghini..... "you been had"
@dumbnhung
@dumbnhung 10 ай бұрын
Stood behind a guy in a food court at a subway terminal recently... he was wearing his Gucci baseball cap, his Balenciaga sneakers, his Philipp Plein black leather jacket with the designer name stamped in gold metal across the bag and carrying his Kenzo backpack. I couldn't see what brand shirt he was wearing but it was JEWELLED - think back to the Christian Audigier type shirts but way more over the top. Belt and jeans also unknown. Sure he got my attention - I'm guessing he thought he was projecting "I am money!" whereas in your own words Dacob, he just looked like a clown. In a food court, in a subway terminal.
@Helenaempera
@Helenaempera 10 ай бұрын
On the first look of the last Chanel haute couture show you can clearly see the CC logo on the buttons, so not really sure about Chanel removing logo for haute couture
@GK-up6xz
@GK-up6xz 10 ай бұрын
I bought such products in the 80s. It was a niche thing, you’d really have to have an extreme interested in design, history, etc Brands began to say, back then, that they were going to market to the young who didn’t necessarily have enough money. They did and somehow it’s seems to have worked….
@ElderMoreMind
@ElderMoreMind 10 ай бұрын
This is why I spend so much time trying to find smaller/newer designers who have to stand on their designs and quality rather than heritage and logos.
@GlitteranGold
@GlitteranGold 6 ай бұрын
People have made gucci look like a crazy standing billboard as well. Neither of those luxury brands aren’t even fun anymore because there’s so many people carrying fakes around. It just makes luxury look and feel no fun or no true genuine enjoyment because of those things.
@ladyofwinterfel8143
@ladyofwinterfel8143 10 ай бұрын
its better to buy vintage chanel, i got a skirt and a plain black blazer it has no logos at all, it was from 1980's the skirt was very well made, its almost like haute couture
@annet4539
@annet4539 10 ай бұрын
Nowadays when there is any logo very visibly placed in clothing/bag, I will take a step back and ponder. Do I want to do marketing for the brand? Is this brand actually worth marketing? Sure I like this piece but generally.. how I feel about them. And I feel conflicted. Bit like giving someone I do not know, a vote. So I try to choose stuff that is not so loud. And this is coming from a person who does not really buy luxury. But the idea is the same weather its Guess, Adidas or Chanel. Are you their cheap work force?
@christinisamathnerd
@christinisamathnerd 10 ай бұрын
I really wish Dorit from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills could understand this. She's not loud luxury, everything on her screams, "I spent more money than you so I can brag!" 😂
@lvbadboy
@lvbadboy 10 ай бұрын
Dorit buys her looks right off the mannequins 😅
@esterdrass4964
@esterdrass4964 10 ай бұрын
And she probably has no money. I bet she rents her house and leases her cars. I know a fellow like that, he still lives with his mother, has been leasing cars for decades so he never owned a car but is forever paying for one. He is nearly 60.
@natasa3412
@natasa3412 10 ай бұрын
@@esterdrass4964 It was proven that her husband and her lied about their incomes, scammed a friend of Camille Grammer for money. And yes, in fact, they rented houses and cars for the show.
@DebShops-e3v
@DebShops-e3v 10 ай бұрын
Lol! You ain’t neva lied. Yes we have been suckers…it is a hard habit to break. Fancy fancy…pay for made to order with no logos….thats is something. But I ain’t gonna have that many coins in my lifetime so I guess I am a peasant who drops an occasional logo. Just tryin my best to fight all the trends and FOMO…and stick to my own style. Dacob keep giving us the good content that makes us stop and think…always good to stop and think and not live in a vacuum.
@SuperDacob
@SuperDacob 10 ай бұрын
Thank you 🥰💖🙏🏻
@wendyshoowaiching4161
@wendyshoowaiching4161 10 ай бұрын
Lv bags used to be RM$1,800, now its over RM$60,000. Its a scam price
@svatisingh1
@svatisingh1 10 ай бұрын
Another stunning performance - this was healing to listen to. I haven't bought anything from Chanel, but I'm a huge Karl Lagerfeld fan, because he was, like you, philosophical about fashion and everything that he did. All the top people are (philosophical that is). The material world was a framework through which Karl made his own dreams literally come true (some dresses he saw in dreams). And he was a soulful and creative being, just like you. He would quote Nietzsche and it was great to see you quote Plato, yes! But back to you - you're a true leader , showing people how to enjoy this stuff, but not get lost in the world. How to be oneself, to have fun and be a leader in our own lives and be creative ourselves. Also loved your views on the resin pieces (I don't think I left a comment on that one, but I loved learning how all that stuff works, you have great knowledge to share). Thank you so much for your views, loving your work 💕🙏
@internetgirl100
@internetgirl100 10 ай бұрын
Me watching these videos and then still ordered another Chanel bag.
@marionthomas5947
@marionthomas5947 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@evianeyousef
@evianeyousef 10 ай бұрын
You are right Dacob, I’m so tired of this logo/ show off fashion. It’s so vulgar! I think that’s why some of these brands are raising their prices to gain exclusivity again. I know some people over here in Sweden only buy high end bags and clothes on credit to impress others, it’s ridiculous! Thank you for today’s video ♥️♥️♥️
@MissYoMaMa
@MissYoMaMa 10 ай бұрын
I do not advertise for any brands, never have, not even as a trendy teen (except for some sneakers that have recognizable swooshes, and some jeans with recognizable pocket stitches.) I even have taken exterior logos off. I even try to get the least possible branding on my vehicles too (some vehicles allow for this), and have had some removed too. I have always had the mentality that I’m not getting paid, so I am not going to advertise. Sure if you know I’m wearing Celine jeans because of the fit or hardware, ok, but no big ole logos or monograms for me. I even bought an LV bag in Paris about 10 yrs ago and I have never worn it. It is the cutest with red leather trim, but I always feel weird showing off and advertising the brand. I have even sharpied, yes sharpied, over the Saint Laurent foil logo of my bag. I just feel more comfortable in my more discrete bags, like my Rows, my Hermeses (and no I will not sharpie those logos, I’m not that crazy) etc.
@raf-gr1sn
@raf-gr1sn 10 ай бұрын
Thank God (gold oil and drugs) someone finally came out with it and just SAID IT. ❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉 also love the way you know and openly talk about how monogram canvas is a thick PLASTIC (well, pvc, only the best plastic will do of course) coating on top of a somewhat lightweight cotton. Bravo Mr! ❤❤
@SuperDacob
@SuperDacob 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Raf 🥰🙏🏻💖
@elizabethandrews4199
@elizabethandrews4199 10 ай бұрын
Same with jewelry…. The high jewelry collections of luxury brands show no signs of their popular known designs….
@Foudedanse
@Foudedanse 10 ай бұрын
Completely agree!
@ryeofoatmeal
@ryeofoatmeal 10 ай бұрын
I'm so proud when dacob mentioned muji cuz I thought no one knows that brand or people not caring enough for that brand. my wardrobe are 80% from muji cuz Iove their natural fibre clothes. I live in hot & humid country so it's important to wear breathable outfit
@lorree1
@lorree1 10 ай бұрын
I've never been a name person, never saw the point of walking around emblazoned with a company name, but I do admit I love a Westwood orb, a McQueen skull, a Versace safety pin etc...actually I love a good safety pin be it VW, Dior, JPG or whoever, that's the old punk in me. But names have always been out. I think we should train ourselves, when tempted by a spendy item, to imagine it without the brands logo and then ask ourselves how much we would pay for it. I just bought a couple (Ok, 4 ) of Versace Greca Goddess bags at sale price and already feel mortified. I think we buy dreams. I am absolutely loving this channel btw. Dacob is such an honest voice and so natural.
@OnlineNuisanceDistributor
@OnlineNuisanceDistributor 9 ай бұрын
Buying high-end stuff--especially when gently used--can wind up saving you a lot of money in the end, but ONLY if you already knew your own style, whether from thrift shopping and bargain hunting or whatever rich kids who do have style do. If you're just buying what you're told to buy, or clothes for the body you wish you had, then you're the person with a closet packed with wasted cash.
@simonecomtesse2772
@simonecomtesse2772 10 ай бұрын
The logo overload is ridiculous, true. That’s the reason quiet luxury is a thing. I loved logos as well, now over it, but it’s maybe a development thing. Or age thing, although I see a lot of 50 plus ladies as well running around like billboards 😂
@DivaStylez.
@DivaStylez. 10 ай бұрын
Dacob: “Buying Luxury Is A Scam” Next week, buys a Luxury Item 😂🙌🏼
@SuperDacob
@SuperDacob 10 ай бұрын
Dacob never said he was immune to the scammery. Dacob falls victim to the scam just like you do… Just like most everybody else does too… wugo wugo and iykyk 🤷🏻‍♂️
@DivaStylez.
@DivaStylez. 10 ай бұрын
@@SuperDacob Zuuuuuu Better 🫶🏼
@lakamatte4975
@lakamatte4975 10 ай бұрын
Few of my bags are sitting in the closet.from the time I was the nuovorige,I grew out of this pants.I got the bag handmade in Florence and enjoying carring it more then LV.
@mellissabluxury
@mellissabluxury 10 ай бұрын
If I’m doing a logo it’s always restricted to one piece only at a time. Less is always more with monogram. I absolutely am gravitating to leather with less branding, but I’ll never not love LV monogram ❤❤❤
@ladyofwinterfel8143
@ladyofwinterfel8143 10 ай бұрын
lady diana pulled it off she just wore the toiletry pouch
@SuperDacob
@SuperDacob 10 ай бұрын
That she did and she did it masterfully
@marionthomas5947
@marionthomas5947 10 ай бұрын
Bit**h stole my look 😉. Ps, I still got and use mine. 😊
@esterdrass4964
@esterdrass4964 10 ай бұрын
The only people I see walking around wearing labels on the outside are reality tv personalities, especially the real housewives. That was when I became turned off of high-end brands, they see common now. Plus, if you want me to be a billboard, you need to pay me. Plus, the quality is questionable, but these brands are now catering to the meh class, so they don't care.
@nancywang6919
@nancywang6919 10 ай бұрын
Good point Dacob. I’m wondering if the sales boutiques or sales people for Chanel could be a scam outside the US as well. I recently brought back a pair of chandelier earrings 30+ years old for repair because a tiny rhinestone fell out. It took them weeks to get it back to me. More like 2+ months. Since I hardly wore these earrings I don’t recall the exact ins and outs other than that it was made heartier and less perfect looking back then. The pair I got back either parts had been tampered with or been replaced with a completely fake pair. The hanging bigger rhinestones looked very white compared to how I remembered and the earrings no longer had that blackened antiqued gold tinge on it. At first I couldn’t put my finger on it, but the more I look at it, the more unsettling I feel. I don’t know how to go about accusing them of something like this. Perhaps you could offer some advice.
@Lifeisbeautiful-ri2tb
@Lifeisbeautiful-ri2tb 10 ай бұрын
I have been waking up slowly and it is still a work in progress. I love your content. I have nothing against others who choose to spend because I do believe people should spend their money however they choose. Just because I am on a different journey and doing a low buy year doesn't mean I need others to do it with me. Great conversation Dacob and I gave this video a thumbs up!
@aholman8249
@aholman8249 10 ай бұрын
Loved this video and these type of discussions. Also loved the waking up analogy and mention of Plato’s Cave 💕🌅 great stuff as always, Dacob.
@starreh6
@starreh6 10 ай бұрын
And this is why i wait for the sales 😅
@katcankan7129
@katcankan7129 10 ай бұрын
The clue is in the name brands. Extend the word to branding & concept is clear, they are branding folks. Not with a tool that has been in a fire & applied to the skin but with a symbol. A definition of branding = "Branding creates an identity of the product or service in the purchaser’s mind to acquire an edge over the competitors and capture maximum market share. Its design may be a logo, symbol, tagline, etc., that can easily capture the customer’s attention." Off topic but celebrities are influencers too. They are often given their items for free in exchange for being photographed with the item. This helps the brand to sell said item to those who are influenced to buy. I've woken up so the gig is up! The unboxings are great for me. I get to watch others enjoyment with their new purchase without spending a penny of my own money on stuff that l don't need. 💜
@mariafindlux1512
@mariafindlux1512 10 ай бұрын
Oh wow!! You have spoken the truth as I sit here staring at my beautiful cashmere logo scarf. 😢
@GlitteranGold
@GlitteranGold 6 ай бұрын
Doesn’t make it feel special anymore.
@kari8088
@kari8088 10 ай бұрын
Yes, yes, yes. Less is more. Dress elegant and maybe 1 logo piece. Not overload.
@natasa3412
@natasa3412 10 ай бұрын
KZbin x Chanel pay for no ads/logos sounds like a 2024 collab
@paulmahoney6313
@paulmahoney6313 10 ай бұрын
I agree with everything you said in this video I do love the vivienne Westwood orb though I think she gets a pass ❤
@vintagecoachcollector
@vintagecoachcollector 10 ай бұрын
Very true I agree with every word and learned this years ago. You can have luxury quality without the scams. Luxury brands quality just isn't luxury quality.
@VforVanity10
@VforVanity10 10 ай бұрын
Remember how Eileen Davidson from RHOBH used to flex and rock her 60$ shopper? A fresh breeze of air and a clear statement in the hot lake of luxury designer everything! I personally consider logos as a signing of a brand, to signalise the creator, similar as a painter signs his painting. Of course it's not only the brand who profits monetarily but the wearer who receives an emotional and a sicietal gain. Surely a logo plastered outfit is poor taste at least, but paying a ridiculous amount of money to only remove the logo is even more insane, honestly. Haven't we seen it regularly with paying-to-get, back to paying-to-remove with tattoos, fillers, implants?
@RaqReviews
@RaqReviews 10 ай бұрын
We’ll said! Bravo 👏 👏💜
@markjohnson2257
@markjohnson2257 10 ай бұрын
Great comparison in regards to Chanel RTW logos vs Haute Couture logo less and youtube with ads and YT premium with zero ads. I never thought of it that way.
@owca0325
@owca0325 10 ай бұрын
Great eye opening video 👏🏻 thanks !
@SuperDacob
@SuperDacob 10 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it! 🥰💖
@carrino15
@carrino15 10 ай бұрын
As a trained biologist it is a bit strange to hear people without deep biology understanding talk about evolution. Evolution is just adoption. It could go towards complexity and increased intelligent solutions regarding optimisation for energy but it could also move towards inefficient solution, it is all a tradeoff. Evolution is adoption, flexible and just a process in time without a deterministic intelligent will but as a response to environmental random chaos
@linabelmonte5154
@linabelmonte5154 10 ай бұрын
Hello! First video I see from you. You're so made for this! Beautifully said and nice to watch!
@kimberlysanchez8287
@kimberlysanchez8287 10 ай бұрын
Love your videos! Thank you for sharing this! 🤯
@juliam.4569
@juliam.4569 10 ай бұрын
Very interesting perspective Dacob👏
@katcankan7129
@katcankan7129 10 ай бұрын
I don't know what you have done dacob but you great & younger... A great topic & how you put your claims together was very insightful 💜
@helenefrench4275
@helenefrench4275 10 ай бұрын
I do like your statement Dacob. Less is best. Showing off logos is so vulgar :( People who have the money to buy the Haute Couture: no logo seen of course. Being discret and elegant is so much more attractive.
@ladettea1qaanderson908
@ladettea1qaanderson908 10 ай бұрын
Best one ever🌷 Thanks 💓
@Strawbettys
@Strawbettys 10 ай бұрын
I'm sorry this is off topic but u are GLOWING DACOB
@cherisebanks3337
@cherisebanks3337 10 ай бұрын
Such an eye opening video very well stated with nothing but the truth love your content 🩷🩷🩷
@maariayasin3958
@maariayasin3958 10 ай бұрын
By your logic the Kardashians are broke😂
@peterrichards00
@peterrichards00 10 ай бұрын
How did u get so brilliant darling, Your always so right. Love it x
@DesireeGonza
@DesireeGonza 10 ай бұрын
Always enjoy your videos.
@storygirl33
@storygirl33 10 ай бұрын
Well logos are an advertisement for sure. I never considered paying an extra extra premium to get them removed. That seems like a super duper burn if you think about it. pay the price of a small house for your made to order outfit and we'll take our logo off. Haha the joke seems to be on the super wealthy but they don't seem to mind being scammed. But I don't get why you're so angry Super Dakob? I don't really get why logos at a lower price angers you so. That's how things are and you can decide to buy or not the logoed items. If you don't, you can secretly laugh at the joke of those buying to advertise and those paying 10 times more to not advertise. But if you do buy a lovely item, aren't the Chanel buttons thought to be a thing of beauty to the point people want extra? So why rage about the logo on them??😅 I just don't get the rage. Why get upset over things we have no control over. But you can control to buy or not to buy. And most people really dont buy Chanel when you calculate worldwide.
@stevenweix4330
@stevenweix4330 10 ай бұрын
❤😂 fantastic video... Always as informative as it is entertaining
@markjohnson2257
@markjohnson2257 10 ай бұрын
I also LOVE hoe you mentioned the allegory of Plato 's Cave. I was unfamiliar and had to research it. Baby- you went DEEP in this video and l am here for it!!!
@davidallengreen5153
@davidallengreen5153 10 ай бұрын
😊 Thank you for this video !🎉 I've been evolving, it started when I subscribed to you chanel!🎉❤,Lori
@just.curious...
@just.curious... 10 ай бұрын
Logo logo logo logo 😂
@SuperDacob
@SuperDacob 10 ай бұрын
😂💖
@Eva_noir.
@Eva_noir. 10 ай бұрын
You stated beautifuly❤🎉
@Restless318
@Restless318 10 ай бұрын
Yes but we all fall it even with love of coach haha my love of the Coach C can not reach for chanel C C we go we go
@OnlineNuisanceDistributor
@OnlineNuisanceDistributor 9 ай бұрын
Maybe then you should take half a step back and rethink the way you react to aesthetic criticism of LV logo products--perhaps? I'm not a psychiatrist, but I AM crazy.
@Foudedanse
@Foudedanse 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 soooo true!!!!!!!!
@Rumifor2000s
@Rumifor2000s 10 ай бұрын
💯🙌🏻❤
@andreav2175
@andreav2175 10 ай бұрын
@korrigan
@korrigan 10 ай бұрын
❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉
@joshcruz3850
@joshcruz3850 10 ай бұрын
This is so very well put. About a year ago I sold all my LV monogram pieces (especially coated canvas pieces..this is not luxury) and replaced them with all-leather non-logo pieces. Today, if I see someone wearing LV logo AND its coated canvas, it’s almost an immediate indicator (speculatively) that they can’t afford the brand and shouldn’t be wearing it.. which also COULD send the message to me this person is most likely in financial distress..somebody insecure about their financial situation buying a piece with a distinctive logo or monogram print assuming it would send a message to others proving otherwise. Over the years I’ve definitely done some rethinking.. I’d see someone out that was wearing an LV monogram piece and I said to my self “really?”. I didn’t like my own reaction to seeing that and realized I didn’t want to give off that impression to others either. I’ve come to the conclusion that I don’t have anything to prove by wearing logos. Now, I think it’s tacky. I know I can afford it and I don’t feel like I need to tell others I can afford it by wearing logos and monogram print. “Quiet luxury”. Subscription paid, ads REMOVED. In essence, this could just be MY evolution. I started out wearing LV pieces (I’m a wh*re for LV and only wear LV) with logos on them..and in coated canvas because at the time that’s what I could “afford”. I’ve grown a lot over the years and have evolved financially and can now afford pieces without the logo. So who knows anymore 🤷🏽‍♂️
@joemichael5155
@joemichael5155 10 ай бұрын
People are gonna judge you regardless so wear and buy what you want. People will judge you with your LV canvas the same way they will judge you for your leather pieces.
@m.m.7757
@m.m.7757 10 ай бұрын
When see someone carrying LV monogrammed coated canvas, I assume that they have proudly stepped up from Coach, MK or Kate Spade. For many, it's their first real luxury purchase. LV ain't my cup of tea, but I can appreciate what carrying it symbolizes.
@marionthomas5947
@marionthomas5947 10 ай бұрын
I don't have mega money (never had), but I do have a few bags that I got in the 90s. Channel, Louis vitton, etc. still use them , also have some clothes from a shop that used to be called 'Chelsea girl'. Old English High Street store. (went on to become Top shop). Think I might be a hoarder 😮😂😂.
@shikmabonfil286
@shikmabonfil286 10 ай бұрын
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@Mirelle1969
@Mirelle1969 10 ай бұрын
@SuperDacob
@SuperDacob 10 ай бұрын
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@DenmarkScandinavia123
@DenmarkScandinavia123 10 ай бұрын
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