Buying OLED TVs: 4 steps to the Best OLED for You!

[@stopthefomo]

Bright Room OLED: LG G3 howl.me/cjxT72kPuDu S95C howl.me/cjxT7xALYPZ S95B howl.me/cjxT653FVQO S90C howl.me/cjxT6JjRWFC Normal Brightness: LG C2 howl.me/cjxT93GIDjx LG G2 howl.me/cjn8CDzVaNB Sony A80K howl.me/cjxUaVbhoEm Dim Room OLED: LG A2 howl.me/cjxUbMCOw37

[@marksalamon619]

Thanks for the good practical guidance in this video for choosing an OLED TV. I will add a word of caution concerning the 60Hz refresh rate of the LG A2 TV vs. the 120Hz refresh rate of LG's higher-tier OLED models: it makes a difference when watching movies. The test results on the Rtings review site show that the 60Hz A2 does not remove judder from movies shot at 24 frames per second (the standard frame rate for the motion picture industry). Judder makes fast action in films look jerky. If this is something that bothers you (personally speaking, it drives me CRAZY) then you should not buy an A2. Instead, you should consider investing in a TV with a 120Hz refresh rate that will eliminate the problem of judder.

[@stopthefomo]

Fair point, the problem is now less about removing judder but replacing it with stutter which cannot be eliminated without the dreaded soap opera effect! Ultimately, if you are sensitive to the jerkiness of either judder or stutter, you'll have to deal with a touch of SOE unless you're willing to live with the dimmer picture from BFI which comes with its own issues of noticeable flashing. LOL no perfect TV!

[@marksalamon619]

@@stopthefomo ​ @stopthefomo You're right about the stutter problem. I realize that the vast majority of people seem to have a real distaste for "screen opera effect", but it doesn't bother me, and I'm more than happy to engage some degree of smoothing to avoid the stutter that annoys me.

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

Another great video. I'm okay for now with my setup. I watch in a dark/dimly lit room and my use case is varied content.

[@onepurpose315]

Coming from a 65 inch c9 that actually got slightly brighter than the B2, I’m in love with my 77inch b2, I got it online for 1500 which was much cheaper than my c9 when I bought that a few years ago and I don’t think I will upgrade for 4-5 years because I’m in a dark room where the picture looks great!

[@rash5118]

Hey, if I may ask, how do you rate the differences in terms of motion, scaling and brightness in hdr between c9 and g2? I'm actually thinking about buying a g2 myself. Regards

[@paulsantibanez525]

It’s oled so 5 years will be necessary

[@onepurpose315]

@@rash5118 I don’t have a g2, I have a b2… differences are indistinguishable

[@sj460162]

Nice video Fomo. Im getting there now...just one question buddy..if you perfer movies and gaming on the S95C why do you perfer the G3 for yourself?

[@KhalidAdriano]

What about LG C3 for gaming? Do you recommend it? It dropped in price at this moment

[@thanuyorka2199]

FOMO, thank you as always for your excellent TV advice

[@ajwtf6539]

Does this year's oleds eliminate judder without adding aggressive motion processing

[@WhiskeryMage61]

already last year's oleds did that. Just don't set it on Auto, but customize it. On Samsung 4 4 everything else off did the trick. On Sony Motion handling 1 does the trick. Auto tends to overcompensate.

[@White_5tar]

Good video FOMO...decent breakdown with pros and cons of every TV - especially for including Mini-LED as most people disregard those (unfairly IMHO). I will probably be waiting for the MLA panel to come to the C series, unless the G3 gets a decent discount and is stocked by Costco in the UK. Unfortunately no G2 here, so I doubt this will happen. Otherwise, for my very-bright living room, I am very happy with my LG QNED91 Mini-LED that I'vehad since late last year...loving it so far.

[@kanivakil198]

How would I shop for an OLED when I only watch movies at night and in the dark? I don't want to pay for extra for what I don't need but yet at the same time I want the best HDR/Dolby Vision (or the likes experience). I'm thinking about either buying the S95C or g3 by the end of the year or Jan 2024. Even if it is an overkill for a dark bedroom, at least I didn't over pay for them.

[@BenjiGator23]

Good video. Although for HDR impact section at the end, I would also add last year’s G2, and S95B to the list considering they still provide fantastic HDR (1000 nits on G2 and >1000 nits on S95B) and their discounted price points are extremely great values right now.

[@WhiskeryMage61]

i have the s95b and the hdr impact is ok. nothing spectacular. good tv and was worth 2000 euros but it was overhyped last year by the same people who hype now the G3. Not when comparing it to my 2400 nit Sony Z series in the other much brighter room... If someone wants real hdr impact they need to go to led lcd. It is not even close.

[@paulsantibanez525]

The thing with those models is peak window and how long it will stay at 1000

[@WhiskeryMage61]

@@paulsantibanez525 no, even the peak highlights are very significantly brighter. And I compare cinema settings on LED LCD to a modified standard setting on the OLED just so that it can try to keep up! Obviously black levels despite the small black crash, vrr are super nice, so again it is a good TV, but I don't believe that anyone caring about hdr should consider anything else than a high quality LED LCD with strong local dimming (besides Micro LED).

[@BenjiGator23]

@@WhiskeryMage61 I owned last year’s flagship Samsung QN900B, capable of upwards of 4,000 nits. I ended up returning it and got a G2. While the peak brightness was nice, in a dark room it’s overkill and it still had blooming in dark scenes that drove me crazy. Even if very subtle it was noticeable. I don’t regret switching to the G2. Yes the QN900B won in highlight detail, but the G2 won in shadow detail and to me that was more impactful when watching HDR content. HDR is not just about how bright it gets with highlights but how good it does with shadows as well. 1,000+ nits in a dark room is plenty for HDR viewing.

[@PecanPie1102]

Sony 95k vs G3. Thumbs up

[@jonasnezinomas5781]

yes without talking... LG G3 is the best!!!🇺🇦🇱🇹🇬🇧🇱🇷🇨🇰

[@stanko4922]

​@@jonasnezinomas5781 LG is better

[@PecanPie1102]

SONY A95k $3200 Now in 65 inch

[@Jim-sn7hw]

Thanks this is helpful. My room can easily support the 83” c2 or Sony A80l or bigger. But the hdr impact and game mode take the picture to the next level on the smaller flagship 77” oleds. Currently have a c9 77” and was on the fence if an upgrade to a 77” s95c or g3 was worth it or go to 83” with similar picture as the c9. I’m happy with current size so I think the s95c with its colors and gaming features is the winner in my case.

[@mnmn1665]

Excellent, as always. Common sense. Thank you. Brightness: What would be the OLED equivalent to a Panasonic ST 30 plasma?

[@kommandantklink5032]

My TV is only two years old so I am going to hold out for at least 3 years and hope to hear some good news about micro led.

[@themandalorian996]

So I ordered a 55 G3 and a 55 S95C from Amazon, so I could personally decide which I like better, but Amazon has sent me a C3 twice instead of the G3 I ordered. So I ordered one from B&H Photo instead. Only problem, if I open the box, it makes the G3 ineligible for returns, whereas the S95C from Amazon I can return. So now I have a decision: try out the S95C for a week and decide if I want to return it or not (without the ability to compare it next to the G3), or go with FOMO's recommendation and keep the G3 and return the S95C. I'm not sure what to do, all because Amazon can't tell the difference between a C3 and a G3.

[@stopthefomo]

Try out the S95C and if you love it, keep it!

[@SIXBUZZ]

Mabe get a blow up doll, reckon that will solve your cross wired brain

[@thanuyorka2199]

The Sony a90j is a available at Best Buy for a great price, is that TV still a good buy? Thank you

[@WhiskeryMage61]

Yes top TV, best TV of its year overall. C1 slightly better for gaming.

[@WhiskeryMage61]

within the reasonable price range of under 3-4k.

[@jamesmorris8007]

we are looking for a new tv but cant decide what to go with. right now we have a 2019 sony HDTV (neither oled or qled). for a moderately lit room, at the 65" size would you recommend s95b/c or the qn95b qled? iv always wanted an oled but worried about the brightness of our room

[@davesiva4524]

Great review stop the FOMO , I have been in the market looking for a good budget 85” tv with good performance n longevity, what brand do you recommend please cos I have 65” Samsung q70a and I’m not a gamer and again I have the q990b

[@dyauswinters]

I'd go with the qn90b in the 85 inch size. It will pair up with your sound bar flawlessly, and it provides a very very good bright picture. If you'd rather go OLED instead of mini LED, ID say the C2 in the 83 inch for value to performance ratio. Although, it might not pair up with your q990b as flawlessly, it will provide you with great picture quality at a great price point right now. But keep in mind it won't be anywhere near as bright as the qn90b and it will cost a lot more as well. The C2 is no budget TV, but if you're looking for OLED it's the best at its current price point. The A2 and B2 are options as well but will be a lot less bright with less picture quality.

[@ValentinasDislyte]

Hello, I would like to ask why there is not a single Phillips TV in your list? phillips oled is not good enough to make the list or is there some other problem with these tvs?

[@guywalters4199]

Because Philips don't sell in the US. Panasonic doesn't either so they don't have these panels to review in the US.

[@ValentinasDislyte]

@@guywalters4199 oh i dont know this thanks. And this why is so little info about Philips tv.

[@himmelssturmer753]

I hardly think that a ~1000$ difference between the S95B und S95C would be justified

[@jnvivian]

The S95C’s panel is built with deuterium and what Samsung Display calls HyperEfficient EL, so the S95C will last far longer and be brighter. Also, the S95C has a sturdier frame which can prevent bent panels. Whether those are worth the $1,000 difference is up to you.

[@shroey20]

Currently, the price difference is $2700.

[@dennisfinan7977]

Then don't. Get the shittier one with terrible quality complaints.

[@thethiccdonut5257]

@@dennisfinan7977 The C will be the shitty one in a year by that logic 😂

[@thethiccdonut5257]

@@jnvivian Both are trash

[@gokusimpson]

What would be considered moderately lit versus brightly lit? Examples?

[@BaSiC47]

Wait till late autumn and take the S95C at a good price. If you don't want Samsung, take the LG G3 but be ready to pay more.

[@stanko4922]

Samsung has poor quality and problem with burn in and little cheaper price, LG has 5 year warranty for OLED tvs and better quality

[@BaSiC47]

@@stanko4922 Read the last part of my comment comrade :) the 5 year warranty is not for free. It is one of the reasons why the G3 is more expensive. At the same time it is the reason why Samsung is cheaper. But you can actually buy +3 years of warranty.

[@WhiskeryMage61]

@@stanko4922 source? the only source I could find was a samsung panel on a sony TV that was exposed to the same channel for several months 16 hours a day... 1 panel. Come on dude, read the content of the source before telling nonsense. Alternatively site the source.

[@marc-andrechartrand1862]

@@WhiskeryMage61 do a little KZbin search yourself, s95b had many issues (bent screens especially)

[@WhiskeryMage61]

@@marc-andrechartrand1862 the bent screens are real. however, if you do some youtube search yourself screen uniformity and colour saturation is better on qd oled panels by Samsung, so claiming woled screens of LG being superior just does not hold. If your panel is bent, just as if you have a dead pixel, you can get the panel exchanged... Stanko wrote about burn in. There is no source for burn in yet, especially not under normal use. So I am still waiting for the source regarding this claim.

[@mustangPK94]

what about the lg cs oled?

[@andrewcross5918]

I am still using a Panasonic TX-P50S20B... Pretty sure any new OLED will be an upgrade.

[@GrimReaper86107]

1. If you need a tv right now & want to have one of the best picture quality, colors, high peak brightness, but also want to save money, I'll get the Samsung S95B. However, be wary of receiving the tv being bent. Alternatively LG C2 or G3 that has dolby vision. 2. If your a patient person & can wait until black Friday to save money, & want to have one of the best tvs release this year, I'll recommend either S95C, G3, & most likely Sony A95L. G3 if you want dolby vision 3. If money is not a issue & you need a premium tv right now, I'll recommend S95C or G3

[@WhiskeryMage61]

sony also has dolby vision. and DV is just another source of HDR, useless for 95% of content.

[@GrimReaper86107]

@AE K yea I'm not into the DV vs HDR war. It's annoying as hell. I'm deciding between Samsuns S95C & LG G3

[@johnbayer2141]

Wait the LG C2 is brighter than my Panasonic 50 inch Plasma from 2010?

[@blainefrank9243]

I still have the 65B7a which I have to watch SDR and HDR in dim lighting and HDR in even dimmer lighting.

[@zr1cvette]

I still am considering the A90J at 65 or 83 if the price drops. I have a 55 A80K which I really like. I just want bigger and want a master series. I would have to think the A90J would have to still be a little bit brighter then the 80K and C2 and some more HDR pop? The 80K no one really reviewed like they did the prior year models. I feel the 80K is a bit dimmer from what I’ve seen and from watching coverage on my own. You and Rob Brennan from Sony seem to think A80K is same thing though?

[@stopthefomo]

For the price of 83” A90J the A80L 83” will be better in every way despite not being Master Series and pricing will be similar a few months after launch

[@zr1cvette]

@@stopthefomo so is my A80K essentially an A90J? So even at 65 you don’t think the 90J is worth it. I just feel like it’s gotta be a little better then the 80K and C2.

[@JAYY_JAYY]

I have decided the tv for me is the 77” LG G2 . I just need Best Buy to drop the price .

[@thefallenangel01]

Same here brother. Just need it to be at $3k. Hopefully in a month

[@JAYY_JAYY]

@@thefallenangel01 agreed Waiting sub 3k

[@xOubax]

The FOMO is over for me. It's finally time to retire my Hisense H9G. Incoming B2!

[@darnu2016]

Any news on A95K vs A95L

[@rhynowhite8293]

When’s Sony come out

[@chinkc96kc]

I can't remember last time I actually watch a whole movie start to finish.

[@craigosterberg5045]

Thanks for information

[@Ruicarrico]

You only need two steps: 1 - Does it support Dolby Vision? No, choose another. 2 - does it has 4 HDMI 2.1 ports? No, choose another.

[@stopthefomo]

1. DV is mostly pointless, see my G3 review 2. Only gamers need 4x 48Gbps otherwise you’re overpaying

[@Ruicarrico]

@@stopthefomo I've seen it, although I desagree heavily. The difference is huge, in fiscal media, streaming and gaming. I know you don't like LG, but they are steel on top in 2023

[@Ruicarrico]

@@stopthefomo I have a PS5 and a XSX, and I use eARC. Without at least 3 ports you have to connect one to the AVR.

[@WhiskeryMage61]

@@bushgreen260 Samsung does not have DV. DV is not better for most content. Similarly I also think the HGIG as it is implemented today is complete bollocks. I own a high end Sony and Samsung TV and after having compared literally 100s of videos and dozens of video games in HDR I can tell you that maybe there is 5% content where is is significantly better and 10% where it is somewhat worse than hdr10. HGIG is even worse, where 50% of games are incorrectly implemented on both series x and ps5.

[@WhiskeryMage61]

@@Ruicarrico exactly FOMO's point only gamers need 4x 2.1. You own two next gen consoles o by definition you are a gamer.

[@we8463]

Next year LG will have MLA all the way up-to 97”! The largest screen the better LG M3 97” is on my short list of TV, I just need to come up with $25,000 😂 Maybe in a couple years the 97” will drop in price. I know wishful thinking

[@nickex.3187]

panasonic mz2000 vs lg g3

[@suny147]

can you please also define super bright room bright room

[@tsak4]

Between c3 65 and g3 55 inch ?? Not a bright room, usage 35% movies and 40% football 25% gaming

[@WhiskeryMage61]

not a bright room, easy C3. You will have all gaming features and lose 300 nits of brightness. You will save the delta of the TV plus another 200 dollars for the stand.

[@Faisal-SR]

any news about smaller qd oled panel TV in 2024 ? like 48/50 16:9

[@maxborn7400]

Man, you gave a whole lecture on TV size alone 😅 Did not know LG G3 was brighter than S95C. I am hoping Samsung gives massive discounts by the end of the year, like last year. If Samsung undercuts the competition, then the difference in features seems marginal. Last year was a big one, QD-OLED is finally a very real option on the market. We are experiencing the aftermath of it, and while I enjoy the wide array of options available now, but man is it confusing. I have been reading/watching reviews, researching each new tech companies are promoting, for over a year now! Gone are the days where you would see a $200-300 TV at the local store and just buy it when you need it, without a thought. Especially with the, "Internet of Things"/Ecosystem environment we live in, getting a TV has become a whole new "challenge" lol.

[@jerryt1190]

Think Sony will drop a 83” A95L next year or later and when do you think will get prices for Sony 2023 lineup?

[@jnvivian]

Sony cannot make an 83 inch A95L since Samsung Display does not make an 83 inch QD-OLED panel. If Sony makes a hypothetical 83 inch QD-OLED TV next year, it will probably be named the A95M.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

@@jnvivian THIS! ☝️☝️☝️

[@likeke9]

Serious burn-in with my LG OLED so I'm staying away from OLED for my next TV.

[@DrakonR]

X for doubt

[@WhiskeryMage61]

which model ? Pre 2020 model ?

[@djc4769]

Anybody ever measured the LUX level in their room with an OLED tv? I am torn between QDOLED and MiniLED. My room is moderately lit from the side with curtains that do block most of the light but the room still has reflected light off some of the walls. Nil direct reflections off current TV in current position, just the reflected light off the walls. I can measure the LUX on my phone but was wondering if anybody had some idea of at what LUX level does the viewing experience deteriorate with OLED? I really want the benefits of OLED but don't want to pay all that money and find I can only get the benefits at night. Most viewing is in afternoon, evening and night with maybe one light on during evening.

[@User9681e]

depends on the image but in my opinion both should be good enough Samsung has the best anti reflective coating meanwhile it’s glossy it still does get rid of most reflections Best idea would be to go in the store and decide between the u8K/ UX and the qd oled and deciding what is bright enough for your needs Assuming you can deal with slight blooming and less clear image of lcds (They are getting better and better in contrast with better algorithms and more zones / panel advancements ) The thing is this lcd for best dynamic range and oled for contrast

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

@@User9681e LCD's one benefit is peak brightness. OLED wins in contrast ratio, black levels, color volume, and response time which is superior for gaming or watching sports.

[@User9681e]

@@PSYCHOV3N0M unless you get the highest tier mini led then OLED will still have a better dynamic range measured in stops

[@frankallen3634]

Table stand...I'm not some peasant. If the G3 was 83 I'd be thrilled. Being stuck with a 77 is going to bother me.

[@stopthefomo]

ROFL yeah, I don't like being a peasant either

[@R6ex]

Glad I don't have enough $$$ to work through Math of picking out the right OLED for me! LOL Nah, I'll settle for a mid-range LED and get a consistent level of performance for 10 years.

[@tomclark9848]

C2 is brighter than the A90J??? A90J can hit 510+ nits in SDR mode. The A90J compares closer to the G2. Even the G2 is not brighter than the A90J.

[@jonasnezinomas5781]

we don't understand english when will there be a translation into Russian??? or turn on the subtitles in all languages so that I can understand what you are talking about!!! we know the prices..., both in America and Africa....))) you won't be surprised by that... UK prices are insanely high.... maybe because of Brexit???🙋🙋🇺🇦🇨🇰🇱🇷🇬🇧🇱🇹🇺🇦🙋

[@droma2366]

Isn't there an equivalent to this streamer in your country? If not good potential to start that channel

[@michael-4k4000]

Stop the FOMO now!

[@johnnygab4376]

Second comment 🎉

[@SlotHits777]

Really wish we would speed up moving away from oled and into brighter, non burn-in prone technologies

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

"we would speed up" Go get a better job so you can pay $100,000+ for a current Micro LED TV.

[@MrStrictlyOLED]

MLA Baby

[@DrakonR]

85" miniled tvs put OLEDs to shame for HDR impact.

[@WhiskeryMage61]

I agree, and not only Mini LED, but almost all high end LED LCD. Not even close.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

HDR isn't solely about peak brightness.

[@DrakonR]

@@PSYCHOV3N0M you're right, it's a component of it. You need a wide range between dark to bright, and so far miniLED has a much wider gap than OLED. That's not even based on my perception, but the perception of professional calibrators / testers. MiniLED is still the leader of HDR.

[@jnvivian]

I often move very often due to having to change jobs, so I need something that is built to be able to take some damage from being moved all the time. I also do not want to buy a lemon like a TV that arrives bent or a TV whose screen has blatant dirty screen effect like a pink tint that is not part of the original source material when I buy something this expensive. I would also like a screen that does not burn in too quickly. I also consider a TV’s compatibility with other gear when buying a TV. The need to avoid lemons eliminates all WOLED TVs except for the 2023 models since the WOLED TVs made for model years 2022 and before often gathered complaints about dirty screen effects like unwanted tints or vertical bands on multiple forums. The 2023 models have gotten praise for their great uniformity and lack of blatant tints. If there are any tints or bands in this model year’s WOLED TVs, they only seem to be found when those TVs are placed next to a TV that naturally does not have any unwanted tints like a QD-OLED. Since Sony is now advertising 83 inch WOLED TVs when 83 inch panels got some of the worst lemon rates in previous model years causing Sony to refuse to offer that size during previous years for its WOLED TV lines, this suggests that LG Display either fixed the process that builds the panels or is finally applying acceptable quality control for this year’s panels when LG Display’s quality control in previous years allowed an unacceptably high rate of lemons to ship. Since heat sinks help prevent burn-in and should toughen the panels up against physical damage, I will prefer WOLED TVs with heat sinks. The fact that MLA panels were made starting with the 2023 model year makes it impossible for a leftover lemon from 2022 or earlier from being used is one reason that I favor an MLA panel. MLA panels also are reported to feel hotter than non-MLA panels while actual temperature measurements show that MLA panels are not hotter than non-MLA WOLED panels, suggesting that MLA helps WOLED panels more easily radiate infrared, helping them stay cooler by ejecting more heat in the form of infrared. 2022 QD-OLED panels have a reputation for burning in. Second generation QD-OLED panels from 2023 add multiple features to help address burn-in. The first is using deuterium instead of protium for its hydrogen. This is a catch-up for QD-OLED in getting a feature that WOLED already had in its second generation panels from 2022. The second feature that the second generation QD-OLED panels add is what Samsung Display calls IntelliSense AI (v2.0). This appears to be a counterpart to LG Display’s personalized algorithm first introduced in its 2022 second generation WOLED panels in order to remove hardware OLED wear sensors that were present in first generation WOLED panels that forced WOLED pixel apertures to be smaller. I believe that both IntelliSense AI (v2.0) and the personalized algorithm estimate wear on OLED pixels by tracking prior usage of those pixels, estimating the damage that the pixels’ prior usage did, and compensating for the estimated damage. The third feature is what Samsung Display calls HyperEfficent Electroluminescence material. By using a more efficient OLED material, less heat is generated at the same brightness, or more light can be generated while the panel remains at the same temperature. Less heat means less burn in. Both the first and second generation QD-OLED panels come with graphite heat sinks. I am not sure that the graphite heat sinks are enough since first generation panels have gotten burnt in. I have to eliminate the S95B and the S90C due to bad build quality for both. They appear to have sacrificed everything for low weight which is important if you want to wall mount a TV. However, the trade off is that these TVs have been shown often to be bent on arrival. The S90C is basically a rebadged S95B except for the 77 inch model which the S95B lacked and a later version of Tizen. The S90C is made with either the first generation QD-OLED panel or second generation QD-OLED panel that has been nerfed to perform like a first generation QD-OLED panel. Only the 77 inch model is guaranteed to get a nerfed second generation QD-OLED panel, with the rest having a panel lottery while the old inventory of first generation QD-OLED panels is being depleted. The nerfed second generation QD-OLED panels are better since they will last longer. The panel lottery for both the 55 and 65 inch S90C models is a further demerit for those. The outdated main processors in all of Sony’s TVs except for the A95L eliminates them. Sony’s current TVs run Android 10, which is the oldest version of Android that Google still supports. I am afraid that they could get stuck with Android 10 when Google decides to drop support for that version of that OS. Later versions of Android can slow down old hardware or not run on that hardware at all, so I don’t know if Sony can upgrade anything other than the A95L to a newer Android version when that happens. Android 10 is 3 years old, so I can predict that it will get dropped soon. I don’t know if MediaTek, Sony’s main system on a chip (SoC) supplier for its TVs, has drivers for newer Android versions for its SoCs other than the Pentonic 2000, Pentonic 1000 (which will be used in the A95L), and the Pentonic 700. OS updates are important since I do not want to have my new TV, an Internet of Things device, become part of a Botnet of Things. I prefer to stream to the TV than to an external streamer if possible in order to prevent generational loss where each processor in the chain can introduce losses by performing unnecessary processing like scaling and deinterlacing before the video gets to the final processor in the TV where those steps are usually best done. Those who believe that the Cognitive Processor XR, the X1 Ultimate, the X1 Extreme, and the X1 are Sony’s SoCs need to learn that they are video coprocessors, not main SoCs. Since one of Android’s greatest strengths on a TV is that it can run apps that would require an external streamer like an Apple TV or Nvidia Shield if the TV runs another OS, I will have to exploit that strength to make up for the fact that two of the four HDMI ports are capable of only HDMI 2.0 speeds instead of HDMI 2.1 speeds, and that one of the full throughput HDMI ports is the eARC port if I want to use a home theater system or sound bar. Since I am in the USA, an ATSC 3.0 tuner is important to receive current and future 4K broadcasts. That eliminates the LG C3 since it only has an ATSC 1.0 tuner in its USA version. These reason are why I have made the LG G3, the Samsung S95C, and the Sony A95L my current shortlist of models that I am interested in. The G3 has the best all-around processor and finally has a mature WOLED display. It took the threat of QD-OLED to finally force LG Display to fix either its build process or quality control to quit shipping lemons with offensive dirty screen effects. The only major disadvantage remaining in the LG G3 is that it can’t cover as much of the BT.2020 color space as QD-OLED panels, though what it can cover is bug-free unlike Samsung TVs and is able to cover more of the color space than LCD TVs. The Samsung S95C has a second generation QD-OLED screen that has not been intentionally nerfed unlike the S90C, and has better build quality than the S95B and S90C. However, Samsung’s TVs have bugs in their BT.2020 implementations which don’t really matter in their “QLED” and “Neo QLED” LCD TVs since their LCD TVs can’t cover a large enough portion of the BT.2020 color gamut for those bugs to really matter but can really nerf the QD-OLED TVs when displaying BT.2020 content since QD-OLED can cover most of BT.2020. Samsung also has a history of shipping buggy or bloated firmware throughout the company including its TVs, SSDs, laptops (whose buggy firmware caused some of them to brick themselves with either Windows or Linux), and mobile phones (whose firmware is so bloated with bloatware like Facebook running with system privileges to maximize its privacy invasion abilities that these mobile phones can’t use a safer A/B OS partition scheme to perform over the air updates unlike other Android phones so that if the update crashes that the older OS can still be booted). However, Samsung can sometimes be pushed to fix its firmware. The Sony A95L potentially has the best video processing which can properly process BT.2020 content and drive a screen that can display that content very well, the exclusive Bravia Core streaming service that streams Sony movies at UltraHD Blu-ray bitrates, and Google Play’s big library of apps. The A95L should also be able to do Dolby Vision 120Hz games from an Xbox Series X. The biggest problems with the A95L are that two of the four HDMI ports aren’t full HDMI version 2.1 speed, one of the full speed ports is the eARC port, and the A95L is not yet shipping.

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TLDR; Sounds like you should buy a projector. No TV will satisfy you.

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@@PSYCHOV3N0M I try to list the problems of all the choices so I can find the fatal flaws that rule out certain choices and which minor problems that I should prepare to live with or work around once all of the fatally flawed choices have been ruled out. I know that nothing is perfect and am prepared to accept some problems once I make a choice.