BYD Atto 3 - Is it really GOOD VALUE?? or just HYPE??

With all the petrol and gasoline prices getting crazier, people have finally started to look at electric vehicles. However for most people, finding a cheaper EV is the only attainable solution as compared to buying a Tesla, which may be out of their reach. In this episode, we look at the available affordable EVs in the market today and see which one is the best bang for the buck EV. We are looking at comparing Nissan Leaf, MG ZS EV and the new player, BYD Atto 3. Which of these cars offer the best value and why you should get it?
Charging Station 1337 is a KZbin channel dedicated to EVs and related technology. My name is Rick.. I am a car enthusiast, who has driven ICE (internal combustion engines) cars for 22+ years, and have recently opened my eyes to EV and it's capabilities. I am starting my journey as an EV user and will share my insights on this journey. I love technology and the progress it brings. And oh, I own a Supra MKIV and have no plans of ditching that.. so, please don't shoot me if you're a pure EV fan.
BYD Atto 3 Specs:
bydauto.co.nz/storage/uploads...
MG ZS EV Specs:
New Zealand - mgmotor.co.nz/models/mg-zsev/
UK Standard Range - ev-database.uk/car/1540/MG-ZS...
UK Long Range - ev-database.uk/car/1541/MG-ZS...
***Edit : I don't know why I say MG SZ a few times when it should be ZS** 😑
#BYD #Atto3 #EV
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[@ChargingStation1337]

💠I don't know why I keep saying 'S-Z' when I meant 'Z-S'.. sorry about that. 😑 If you're enjoying the content.. please help us grow by 'Subscribing'. Cheers! 👍

[@richardcajucom3839]

Cebuano?

[@ChargingStation1337]

Uu boss 😉

[@richpalmisano1740]

The Chinese are going to be very prominent in the EV market space. This looks like a very interesting vehicle. I am curious as to the 'real world' specs.

[@ChargingStation1337]

I'll be receiving it later this month, would be able to tell you how it performs over the next few months. 👍

[@qilu2004]

in the chinese market, byd is competing in all segments of the market, including the high end. it is dominating all other segments except the high end, where it is right behind tesla. in july, it sold 37000+ Han and Tang, both are priced close to model 3 and model y, but offers a lot more features. it just happened byd chose atto 3, a more economic model, to export. it is a mature product, with 330k delivered in china already.

[@waiwirir]

Thank you. Very informative for NZ road users looking into purchasing first EV. I won't be looking at another EV till the second quarter of 23. Have been waiting for BYD, yet interested in the Dolphin.

[@ChargingStation1337]

Yeah, the Dolphin will definitely be a game changer for EVs in NZ. I imagine it will probably bring those Nissan Leafs 2nd gen a tier down in pricing.👍

[@t8polestarcyan22]

I think BYD Atto 3 is good value of money compared to MG ZS EV chiefly because the Atto 3 has Multi-link rear suspension compared to Torsion Beam rear suspension on ZS EV.

[@ChargingStation1337]

Oh yes, that is correct. 👍 Another thing I may forgotten to mention was the Atto 3 was built from the ground up with pure EV in mind (e-platform 3.0) whilst the ZS EV was just based off its non EV chassis.

[@james_l4337]

If ZS EV is not ground up EV, BYD one will have internal larger seating space / room advantages

[@mmjackk]

Great video.

[@ChargingStation1337]

Cheers mate

[@songforguy1]

Think you're doing a good job here mate, I've ordered mine in Australia and hope to possess it soon!

[@ChargingStation1337]

I saw the BYD presentation in QLD.. the event was packed. Cheers for the feedback, mate 👍

[@GlowingTube]

Congratulations

[@johnmcgill3603]

Uighurs in Xinjiang thank you for allowing Chinese regime to build more re-education camps.

[@AI_HQ]

Leonardo DiCaprio was a brand ambassador for BYD in 2017. 😎👍

[@ChargingStation1337]

I'm glad someone actually found the easter egg.. 😄

[@honesty_-no9he]

BYD make higher class vehicles too.

[@ChargingStation1337]

Yes, I believe that'll be the next step on the global market once they have established a larger mindshare.👍

[@colinreid9782]

Some of your MG ZS EV comparisons are actually with the older mk1, not the mk2 which is yet to land in NZ.

[@ChargingStation1337]

Yeah, that's correct... the testimonials are based off the mk1. But the specs are based off the mk2. I had a look at multiple mk2 reviews and there were only minor changes.. slightly better response, some interior changes, and the obvious facelift, which was from the main complaints on the mk1. Besides that, performance is roughly the same apart from better range (going to 320km) and slight 0-100 tuning. 👍

[@eldad12345]

thank you for the review , you know if the Regeneration can be updating on the car computer? i mean the Regeneration of the brake's is very low even on the high mode . and he don't even stop the car , also because low Regeneration , the battery not charging good amount of energy and its make the car drive much lower Km from what he can actually can make... and its bad from my side , the car do 300-330 km at the most , not even close to the 420 . maybe if they make a better Regeneration its a different story unless its not possible to make it via online update because its something mechanical. another question please , if the car have 15% battery it can effect the momentum or lowering the acceleration speed and make lower results to 0-100km test ? thank

[@hdvoice]

From my experience, regen only helps about 5% of the driving range. The 420km range is probably for city driving and not highway driving. You are about right getting 320-340 in a mixed driving pattern.

[@dannyschur7768]

The Chevy Bolt is conspicuously absent on your list. Is it not available to you in NZ?

[@ChargingStation1337]

We're not fortunate to have it here, mate. How much does it cost in your local market?

[@dannyschur7768]

@@ChargingStation1337 We got the top trim model here in 2021 for $42k CDN (about $33k USD). The entry model is $38k CDN ($29.5k USD). It's outstanding value for the money and we love it. Here's the vid I made about it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGnXaKhufseZhNk

[@britishmalayasociety]

GM as a whole, isn't in NZ. It might come in as an Opel in the future though.

[@Alex-pj8nz]

Pity they only sell the BYD E 6 in Australia due to ‘reasons’ while New Zealand doesn’t get it.

[@gregandkaruna6674]

I do like the upcoming MG4, that will tick a lot of boxes for me, especially much better aerodynamic efficiency and both good looking exterior and interior design. Even claims lv 3 autonomous highway driving and a frunk due to being rear wheel drive.

[@ChargingStation1337]

That'll be interesting when it arrives. It'll be a good value EV. Unfortunately, for us here in NZ.. MG is lagging quite a lot. People are still waiting for their facelift ZS EV to arrive possibly late 2022. I wouldn't be surprised if we have that available Q4 2023 with MG's delays. 😑

[@gregandkaruna6674]

@@ChargingStation1337 But is that MG NZ fault or just huge demand and not enough stock? Our local BYD dealer said they expect 1 shipment in August and the second in December and that at the time (2 weeks ago) they had just about sold out the first shipment, so possibly 300 BYD Atto 3 will arrive but that is not a lot. The same dealer also will be selling the Ora Good Cat and is saying that is also due within 2 months, however they are claiming it will be between $50-$60k making it very expensive compared to the BYD

[@ChargingStation1337]

@@gregandkaruna6674 From NZ, the MG ZS mk2 deliveries were supposed to be mid year but were delayed because of COVID and other related issues, which MG stated. That just tells me that they may not have the same industrial capability vs the more vertically integrated BYD.

[@gregandkaruna6674]

@@ChargingStation1337 😀 we have 300 BYD Atto 3 in the next shipment then was told no more until December, Australia apparently has 1000 on its ship again next shipment not due till December. So not actually that many Atto 3. Yep MG obviously are a bit behind on numbers, but to be fair MG did sell 30,000 cars in Australia last year with 1300 being EV. I went to our local dealer in Christchurch and that was 2 months ago and they alone at that time had pre sold 550 MG ZS EV

[@gregandkaruna6674]

@@ChargingStation1337 I see the pricing for the new MG4 has been announced in the UK market

[@vivMak23]

Bad warranty conditions in Australia. Doesn't give confidence in their own components.

[@임진영]

정말멋지네요

[@ChargingStation1337]

고맙습니다 -Google translated

[@GlowingTube]

Fast charging at 80Kw is disappointing. They need on 800v electrical system so the car is future proofed.

[@ChargingStation1337]

I supposed we can't have everything, mate. 😐 At least it's well packaged for the price.

[@GlowingTube]

@@ChargingStation1337 At around $50k for the long range I expected better DC fast charging. Apparently a version with an 800v electrical system and improved batteries is in the works… happy to wait for their next gen offerings. I agree that it is a welcome addition to EVs you can buy.

[@honesty_-no9he]

You are wrong. It has a very good charging curve.

[@GlowingTube]

@@honesty_-no9he I have seen the curve… at best it’s ok for 80Kw but still way below where it should be. When BYD releases their 800v architecture I’ll take another look. If you like the specs, go right ahead and buy one.

[@cirrusclouds8295]

@@GlowingTube Atto 3 uses the 3.0 platform that supports 800v. It is however configured to use less than that (400V). Not sure if an upgrade to 800V is possible through firmware.

[@costiqueR]

I do not like the style of the interior. And soon, as the differences between batteries and electric motors will go to a minimum, the interior style and software will rule the buyer's decision.

[@clayton4115]

No mention of the Hyundai Ioniq 38 kwh what a shame.

[@ChargingStation1337]

It's priced at $41,500 USD here in New Zealand for the base model. At that price mate.. I would just add bit more for the base Model 3/Y. 😐

[@metricstormtrooper]

I don't want another fake SUV, I want a BYD E6.

[@theovincken5939]

Your video has a very bad audio quality. Maybe you should try another microphone?

[@cptobvious8428]

Unfortunately you do not include some important negative factors when considering this vehicle. The most important economic issue is that this vehicle will have a massive depreciation compared to other manufacturers (based on Kelly blue book analysis). The depreciation will be more than any savings in upfront costs. The vehicle has such a slow charging rate it will make long distance driving horrendous, effectively this is just a city car. Preliminary test drives indicate poor handling and performance and possible safety issues with handling at highway speeds.

[@ChargingStation1337]

Hi there, depreciation is a given for brand new vehicles and yes this heavily affects EVs (especially on the same market price range). Buyers of EVs would already know this, you are basically trading cheaper initial cost + high maintenance costs (on ICE) vs high initial costs with low maintenance $$ + cheaper running costs (on EVs). With this brand being new in the market (limited data), anything about price depreciation of this brand would be purely speculation at this point. What I do know is that this company can supply more orders vs any other brands in the current EV market.. demand is very high and this is reflected in their pre-order sales. Have you seen my other video? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gma1lZmceKiYbNk Of course, usage is personal preference. For city commute with occasional weekend cruise this would work fine, and this would reflect location of usual EV sales (it would be mostly urban). I mean if you travel 300kms both ways for work, this wouldn't work.. ICE cars might work for that particular use case or longer range EVs if you have the extra $$. Performance wise, I don't know about poor handling.. it seemed fine to me when I drove it. You can change tyres if you want more grip. Although having a lower centre of gravity this is still a FWD car and should drive it like one, people can't expect it to drift or handle like a RWD/AWD. 👍

[@ensteffo]

+Cpt Obvious Preliminary test drives does not indicate poor handling and performance and possible safety issues with handling at highway speeds. Also this battery will have much less degradation than its western competition so when its sold as a used car with long mileage it will have comparatively much better battery capacity. Don't know where you get your "preliminary test" data, but it must be from some Tesla stock holder or something, because its not what any of the many tests i have seen say.

[@ctai010]

With EV, the future value is very unpredictable. Just look at Tesla Model 3, the market is flooded with second hand Model 3 for sale as soon as Model Y is available for pre order. Some ownerd even forced to sell via $1 reserves. If you believe Tesla will hold better resell value, by all means by a Tesla. But you could be right. But I'm just saying EV long term reseller is too hard to predict at this stage.

[@britishmalayasociety]

@@ctai010 Someone was trying to sell a Model 3 for $688,000 NZD here here. The lead times for a Model 3 is still around 1 year in NZ. People are definitely buying. Even Tesla's trade in value is quite good.

[@telostia]

​@@britishmalayasociety you can't guarantee that tesla cars will stil hold high value 2+years down the line. The reason why it is holding value now is due to shortage of EVs on the market, so if tesla pumps out more cars (they're opening more gigafactories and 1 is already coming this year) and coupled with more EVs will be available at that time then the value of tesla cars will depreciate normally like any other ice cars as there is in excess of them on the market.

[@yasu.T1203]

Please see "BYD self burning on street"of KZbin. I feel BYD cars are still dangerous.

[@ctai010]

You can do the same search ON Tesla. At least BYD's mechanical door handle will still work if battery caught fire. In Tesla back seat, you'll need climb out from front seat or trunk.

[@britishmalayasociety]

@@ctai010 Do you have a Tesla? The back doors also have a mechanical door release. All of them do. Also, Tesla's are known as *the* EV brand, being the most valuable automotive company in the world. There's a lot more media coverage around them.

[@ctai010]

@@britishmalayasociety that's factually incorrect. Model Y don't have mechanical back door release. Only front door have. For back door, there is a hidden mechanical release cable inside the door, you need a tool or very skillful finger with sharp nail to access the hidden cable - not something you want to do under emergency.

[@cirrusclouds8295]

Every EV brands have fire accidents. Also BYD are selling more than the other brands so they have more cases. Maybe you should find out the % of total produce with the problem, and see where the cluster is - that is identify by models the fire occur, and find a link to the cause. Is it the battery technology? What battery? Same as Atto3? Once identified, it will be more cause for concern. If not, it is just taking a few isolated cases and magifying the problem to make a brand or model look bad. Such abuse of information can be done to taint any brand so not convincing.

[@britishmalayasociety]

@@ctai010 Didn't get notified of your comment. I am aware of the Model Y's rear door release. It's underneath the armrest, the cover can remain removed if you like. It's a large tab, perhaps one of the easier methods out of all the Tesla's. You just need to be aware of how the vehicle unlocks in an emergency. Service tells you this when the vehicle is sold to you, the methods are different depending on the model and year you get.

[@shlomomarkman6374]

BYD EVs are maybe good or maybe not but for me they are 0 value. After the start of COVID and even more now I'm boycotting Chinese products whenever I can. For that I'm ready to pay for gas (not that much really using a Honda hybrid car) and pay 200 dollars more for a phone or laundry machine and avoid Chinese clothing, just to avoid those products. I'll wait for Ioniq 5 and gather more money if I needed EV so desperately.

[@ensteffo]

+Shlomo Markman Yes guess BYD shouldn't worry about going for the indoctrinated bigot moron market.

[@ChargingStation1337]

I respect your personal preference, mate. Whatever works for you, that's totally fine. 👍

[@rohitsinghyxrs]

Glad haters like you are leaving Chinese market. Chinese Market needs less toxic customers like you. As for me I will buy more Chinese products. Let them keep coming 🌎🙏