BYD Tang 1000 km challenge

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[@lutzs.1412]

it's not 1000km challenge anymore - it's Ladestau challenge nowadays.

[@mikelach81]

No, they occur so often that it isn't a challenge ;)

[@salamandur]

Spoiler alert

[@francescoboselli6033]

@@salamandur well now is that of a spoiler: is an expected recurrent event 😢

[@minus2837]

They've hired a "ladestau organizer" 😂 A new entry for the Tesla Bjørn glossary.

[@FFVoyager]

30 minutes quicker than a 'classic' Ioniq - but at what cost? That 'efficiency' is horrendous.

[@proboxpepper6752]

I'd say the huge and wide tires don't help with the consumption of the car, also the amp limitation is just weird.

[@StefanoFinocchiaro]

That's probably the least efficient EV 327Wh/km in the summer will mean something around 400-450 in the winter

[@moestrei]

BYD management: Can we beat Etron in consumption? Engineers: Not so easy but we can try.... Bjørn: Success, hour per hour :)

[@nohcam22]

“Great wall of china” 😂😂

[@TiY]

What a challenge!! lol, if anyone wonders, Trip meter can be found using the button at the end of the turn signal, switching between A B and ODOmeter, long press to reset

[@juvamzdelis]

God Dagen Teslabear, can't wait when you're gonna do 1000 km challenge and consumption check for ugly beast Hongqi EHS9 😁.... Keep doing awesome job. Mvh

[@leiyue1411]

Some useful user advices indeed.

[@87tln]

Very good videos Björn. You are à hero for us🙂🫡

[@rubenrios113]

Your calculation can be arrived at much quicker by adding all your charges then dividing by 100 then multiplying by the batteries size to arrive at 326.928 or 327 Wh/ km. (392/100*83.4=326.928 or 327 wh/ km).

[@riep69]

Will you get a new renault megane for a 1000km test? I'm curious about how the battery will do in a long drive

[@bjornnyland]

Yes

[@Brandofviti]

​@@bjornnylandLooking forward to it :D I have already bought it though. Just waiting for delivery

[@ericvet8b]

So many things that they need to sort out I think.

[@dwilson147]

I'd like to see a video where you give your thoughts on the ES8 vis the Tang, and similar "head to heads." Thanks for the video - 1000km challenge is always insightful.

[@shantou]

BYD Tang is much much cheaper than ES8 in China. And this one is the old model of Tang.

[@Leshic2]

@@shantou This comment doesn't make sense. It's like having a car reviewer in Brazil, giving the review in Portuguese for people who speak Portuguese, of a German BMW. And then you arrive to say say, "But the BMW is much cheaper in Germany and that BMW is an older model" When it's the BEST that BMW could give to the Brazilian car reviewer, in Brazil, for a Portuguese audience.... Not German audience in Germany.

[@shantou]

@@Leshic2 Let me put it this way. The price of the Norwegian es8 is basically the same as the Chinese local version, while the tang is 30%+ more expensive than the local one. This should be because BYD is selling through dealers in Norway, while NIO has its own direct stores. So in terms of value for money, at least in the Norwegian market, ES8 is definitely higher.

[@callistoscali4344]

Ladestau benefit cars that rapidgate. The waiting allows for the battery to cool down.

[@davidkerr8948]

Interesting to see the increasing congestion at Norwegian chargers. Presumably because of the rapid EV ramp up which does not seem to be slowing.

[@lesbendo6363]

Interesting to see a winter test.

[@unclezeppy]

Definitely, BYD company is located in the area where below +10C is considered harsh winter and +32C is normal summer temperature.

[@lesbendo6363]

@@unclezeppy Not a Norway or Canada winter! 🇨🇦

[@MrIlovesubaru]

5:03 Matching the Onlyfan mode indeed.

[@richh650]

Great video as usual Bjorn. BYD is up and coming.....

[@gundelfish]

It's a banana (box test) car - it ripens at the customer... 🍌

[@LoneWolf-wp9dn]

Tesla confirmed they will be getting the blade batteries as well... it will be interesting to see what they do with them... i feel like the byd has a lot of good ideas but poorly implemented and lacking polish

[@Luca-cs8fy]

When did they confirm it? I want to understand this topic better as i've never read any credible article about Tesla and BYD blade batteries

[@LoneWolf-wp9dn]

@@Luca-cs8fy apparently some blogger or journalist in china confirmed it now... just google it you will find a bunch of articles

[@karlitono]

@@Luca-cs8fy now confirmed they got type approved for Giga Berlin M3 standard range 55kwh

[@Luca-cs8fy]

@@LoneWolf-wp9dn they are not what i call credible

[@Luca-cs8fy]

@@karlitono what? I thought plans for giga berlin were to use 4680 on Model 3 after they reached at least 400k units a year

[@discoking7188]

I can't quite understand the consumption there. Mine uses quite alot less kw/100km than the car he drives, would almost think the brakes were on to some degree.. I should mention I also run with higher tirepressure than recommended by BYD, and it helps alot on the consumtion. Another thing worth mentioning is that this car is mostly as noisy on the 22" wheels as with 20". Problem is noise transmitted through the wheelarches which are poorly soundproofed, and not the axle/suspensionarms. A fairly easy task to soundproof this car and make it nice and quiet.

[@Leshic2]

I've done countless tests with higher vs recommended tire pressures. 100%, they will ALWAYS give better range. In his case, if he's going to compare apples to bananas, to pineapples, he has no choice but to use recommended manufacturer pressures. You can't compare each vehicle to each other if you tweak the tire pressures... This is exactly why I love, and trust Consumer Reports reviews on cars, because they buy them. Manufacturers will often tweak cars that are press cars for reviewers, and the results are often exaggerated from real life. Tire pressure would be easy to catch for a reviewer, but there are other tweaks that can be done.. Ferrari isn't as bad as they used to be, but in the past they would send a team of engineers with a car that would get reviewed. If you bought a Ferrari, you were banned from giving your car to reviewers to review. They never wanted real world reviews of their cars. Only reviews where they had control of the car and were on-site. Many stories of this from the 1990s, 2000s.

[@wosamosman9814]

Does it have the blade batteries or nah ?

[@karlitono]

So soon time to retest Nio ES8 with battery swap at Vestby?

[@st3ff3n87]

Passport censoring the speed. But... 🤣🤣🤣

[@bjornnyland]

It's a Chinese car. We love censoring.

[@st3ff3n87]

@@bjornnyland Big brother is always watching. Especially the CC setting 👀😇😂

[@bjornnyland]

Don't trust what you see at CC setting: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lafLdXuZftaIfsU

[@st3ff3n87]

@@bjornnyland 😜😜

[@soupytwist8737]

Thank you for your real-world testing - it is really useful. “ABC” made me smile - I would interpret this as ‘Anything But Chinese’ at the moment; however I expect things to change very soon.

[@Leshic2]

BYD - Broken Yester Day I'm just being funny. I agree with you. Like all manufacturers, they will all get better. BYD however, seems to be trailing everybody else. The large majority of people won't buyers won't buy based off the 1000km Challenge, but geeks like myself. The car buying options available today, and performance today, are both much better than 5, 10yrs ago.. Another 5, 10yrs, it will be even more impressive.

[@danedane6613]

I love the OnlyFans mode 😂😂😂

[@byddf]

11 hours and 25 minutes record is not so good but also not too bad. I am in Thailand and I never see any news/plans of Nio (to entering Thailand). (ES8 = A better car, bigger battery, similar price and same time record.)

[@discoking7188]

At least ES8 is more expensive in Norway than this car.

[@krisvandermeulen253]

Damn, a decent battery size for this car that is completely ruined by the high ion thirst and that 4 minute voltage ramp up .... quite a bit disappointing IMHO as it could have been so much better.

[@Leshic2]

To put this into perspective, you could finish filling a car with petrol in 5minutes. 7 minutes, you will have left. Personally, I'm not fully sold on fully electric, but I'd like to have one. Hybrids are still massively more convenient. Instead of adding batteries to a petrol car to make it a hybrid, I wish somebody would start with a really good electric, and add a petrol engine.

[@krisvandermeulen253]

@@Leshic2 That was the design of the BMW i3 REX as that was a BEV complemented with a small motorcycle engine to extend the range once the ions got used.

[@BayKingSoda]

Did he find the Tripmeter later?! Or why the 1000km at 900km?🤔

[@Holiman1989able]

Test the byd seal !

[@deurkl]

Damn it's so thirsty

[@paulc.austad7826]

Regarding to all the electric cars you have tested so far, which electric car would be the best value for money?

[@bjornnyland]

Model 3

[@chriauc2976]

Long term familly and dogs included Model Y for us

[@87tln]

Sweden need to build more chargingplaces😭

[@raydoherty5419]

Just did 740 miles yesterday in our model Y performance (savannah to Philly) and the experience is very different. Don’t know when we passed 1000Km but we did the first 380 miles in 5.5 hours and less than 12 hours for the trip, longest charge was 15 minutes (all V3 stops)

[@oliverguerino1742]

16:35 😂👌🏽

[@markgeezey1809]

Such slow charging for a so called 800v car. I know your not convinced Björn by 800v cars currently. But what I can say is my EV6 AWD is charging like a Boss. 🙌. Everytime in the last few weeks when I have used a 350kw Ionity charger, i have been getting 175-235kw from say 15% up to 65-70%. Then around 115kw up to say 80-85%. Then it starts to slowly decrease to around 65kw to around 90%. Even at 99% i can get 30kw. So in this warm weather the charging speed on the EV6 has been unreal. Plus the efficiency hasn’t been too bad at 165-185kw/100km. So all I can say my experience and ownership of a 800v car has been excellent. Hence maybe a summer run for the Kia EV6 in summer and not winter Björn.

[@NZVideoGuy]

165 kw/100km? Surely you mean 16.5kw/100km?

[@markgeezey1809]

@@NZVideoGuy yes typo 🤣

[@EugeneHoochie]

Weeell, this byd is not a conventional 800v car. High voltage is the result of their clumsy big cells that they can't put in parallel. So they end up with ~1p200s pack and get as much voltage as just happened to be. 400v charger constraint is the users problem. Ev6 with small battery is +- the same (~650v)

[@decimal1815]

"Great Wall of China OS" - 🤣

[@ndc5544p]

interesting, the voltage at 60% was 690V but at 31% it was 697V. Then at 51% it had 701V then at 71% it had 698V. How did the battery lose voltage while charging?

[@bjornnyland]

What you see is charging voltage. The higher the charging power, the higher the voltage.

[@extracoolboy]

Guys let's build our dreams. 😂 Thank you for another informative and fun video Bjørn.

[@Leshic2]

Hahaha.. Broken Yester Day

[@don.timeless4993]

The reason why they put fan only mode because it had ion tech to filter the air inside the vehicle, so if the owners want only to get fresh air without running the AC they just run the fan only mode

[@discoking7188]

You mean the "onlyfans" mode :P

[@Leshic2]

What?!?! HAHAHA!! In all the many Japanese, German, Japanese, British cars I've owned and driven in >40yrs, they ALL could run the fan w/o AC. Are you trying to say that in >50 years of cars having Air Conditioning, that BYD did something NEW, and gave you a SPECIAL feature of run fans only, just so it runs through ion technology filter? Hahahahaha.. You believe manufacturer marketing talk too much.

[@discoking7188]

@@Leshic2 it actually make sense. The ion filtering tech in the car gives a nice and fresh climate inside the car, much different than in older cars is what I experience 🙂 There are a few options in the climate settings, I keep ionizing on all the time

[@don.timeless4993]

@@Leshic2 WTF you're saying?! Are you high old fart? I just explained what only fan would do because Bjorn was wondering about it! It's like pressing AC button to turn off the compressor plus benefiting from the ion purifier built in that's all! I didn't say that they invented new tech!!

[@Alekpowah]

Ladestau doesn't need a queue system, it needs more chargers...

[@kruemelfelix]

Ionity does not build new locations or really expands existing ones. Don't expect more chargers from them. Ladestau at Ionity will just get worse, simply use other networks.

[@kommandantbrons]

@@kruemelfelix they are constantly expanding chargers though. Imo not fast enough but it's not like they're doing nothing.

[@honungen]

Both? Both is good.

[@kruemelfelix]

@@kommandantbrons Then show me locations where they are really expanding? They aren't even building new locations at the moment in germany. Ionity is a dead network.

[@omidrostami2208]

I like the way you make your videos, it is not boring and it is fun to hear your jokes and funny sarcastic sentences in german language, but I am really really getting sick with this car and with BYD! can you please give a break with BYD? Danke schön.

[@bjornnyland]

Nope

[@Platze_outdoor]

Allways buy chinese got me to hard 😂

[@tillxbsk]

But this is not the newest version of the BYD Tang, the new version( 2022 Modell) is more efficient and it has a 108 kWh battery pack.

[@bjornnyland]

Korrekt

[@rolfpeters3537]

How much Saussages, Bananas and Salats on 1000 Km ?

[@electrodacus]

Are you sure you started at below 400V ? Even if it was 500V it will be severely discharged as by my rough calculation they have 192 cells and even at 500V that is 2.6V per cell witch is way to low for LiFePO4. They should limit power when you are at about 3V per cell and stop at 2.8V There is no wonder they limit the charge rate when at such low voltage but they should not get there.

[@bjornnyland]

Yes

[@electrodacus]

@@bjornnyland They may have no undervoltage protection for the battery or they did this for the review units to make them look better but 400V / 192 cells = 2.08V and that is lower than any LiFePO4 manufacturer spec witch is 2.5V. There is nothing to gain as from 3V down to 2V there is almost no energy left maybe 3 or 4% and that should absolutely be the low buffer. This could explain why they need those 4 minutes to rump up the charging. Do they have the same 4 minutes ramp up if you arrive with 20% SOC or more? I designed a BMS for solar and I use 2.8V as default low voltage disconnect.

[@Moonraker84]

Love the ..!.. @ 09.10 mark 🥳

[@bjornnyland]

9:10

[@Leshic2]

HAHAHA!!!!!! It sure looked like it the 1st time.. I wish it was. It would have been even more funny!

[@reycoreiswan9337]

It would be nice, if u add a new column in Excel with ,, Ladestau min.,,

[@bjornnyland]

It might as well be random integer.

[@marknorth7361]

This version already updated in China I believe with longer range and faster charging, maybe hang on until the new one arrives could be only a few months away

[@rui569]

hoooly macarooony!

[@tesla-spectre]

terrible efficiency. somehow looks like we will repeat the same mistakes we did in ICEs: everybody going for mega far cars practically nobody needs with a drag coefficient and weight of a house. why do we think that consuming double of what is needed in an EV is ok? also electricity needs to be produced...

[@discoking7188]

BYD should really work on the preheating of the battery (add a manual feature or linked to the NAVI) so that this stupid ramp-up time is not necessary every time we connect the car to a charger

[@GManPT]

6:20 damn left lane huggers

[@GabrieleBonetti]

what a shiiiiiiit charging behavior. All that to then waste it with at 330 wh / km.

[@gadgetgasspoll2923]

9999

[@ajrd2000]

Give them a few months and they will fix it....

[@rizer187]

Why do you speak sometimes German? 😄

[@rcarhouse]

👍👍👍👍

[@marcoseirik]

BYD = Break Your Dreams...?

[@Lovejazz01]

Those two BYDs are ok, but design wise they look too much like 3 year old Kia or Hyundai Petrol/Gas suvs ..

[@bjornnyland]

That's because this car came out in 2018...

[@Lovejazz01]

@@bjornnyland that’s explains it .. 😁👍🏾

[@kentchr76]

At least it looks okay

[@havardh4912]

As much as I enjoy your videos I can't help but disagree on your take on 800v. Even though this specific car does not utilize it, my Ioniq 5 certainly does. Using a specific (sub par) car to make generalized conclusions on 800v is not logically sound

[@ouch1011]

Judging 800V vehicles by cherry picking only the worst examples of it and only the best examples of 400V car shows your bias and/or lack of knowledge. Most 800V cars charge faster than most 400V cars. Additionally, there are other benefits than just charging speed for 800V systems. Efficiency is a result of motor design, tire size, vehicle aerodynamics, etc, not battery voltage.

[@bjornnyland]

Dude, I was obviously trolling. Did you not notice?

[@Leshic2]

Haha.. Bjorn is always full of jokes.. He fooled me a year ago when he opened the back of a car and pulled out the toeing bar, asking what it is.. He does this with every car! He knows, but he just does it as a joke. Sheeeeeeeet

[@Marco-ce8kr]

Wow this car is a joke. I don't think a software upgrade will do an improvement on this thing. Anyway, I will give it the benefits of doubt

[@qbasic16]

Even on winter tires, I only reach around 190 - 230 Wh/km on my Polestar 2. 😅

[@blakoemail]

4rt

[@bjornnyland]

*4th

[@laurenz138]

This car charges way too slow and has way too high consumption. Really bad.

[@robertgerritsma7310]

Third

[@abisaghattas5423]

second :)

[@cak2903]

First 😃😃😃

[@cbn1362]

So chad

[@cak2903]

@@cbn1362 so I was first, CBN.