Bye Bye Crashpad Swag - Why It's Gone

After 6 months the Crashpad swag is gone. Short review of my 2 favourites and why the ARB Skydome and 23 Zero Bandit swags are my goto camping swags.

[@onetenadventures165]

Great video , I've just purchased the 23zero bandit so was a great review 👍

[@jimmyjimmy951]

This is a good review and addresses the stuff we all think about. Can’t help thinking though that we have started to miss the point of a swag! We should get away from the old school concept of a swag if that’s what we are calling it and if we are going to point out short falls like being able to sit up. You can’t sit up in a swag, you can’t get changed and canvas does touch you body. These are essentially small one person framed canvas tents. I say buy a single pole touring tent as you get everything you crave with very little sacrifice. If anything you save on space .. Again good review and plenty to think about..All the best..👍🇦🇺

[@barneyh4655]

I reckon either you go no poles barebones swag or go comfortable the middle ground is just the worst of both worlds

[@15harry1561]

💯 I always thought a swag was a bedroll without poles.

[@thinkhelpservice]

Looks very similar to the Kulkyne Homestead swag but the Homestead has a stretcher - aside from the setup time, the Homestead is very comfortable and rolls up very easily - I’m not a fan of swags just on the ground, stretcher is a must for me

[@tristancrane5362]

Good review , thanks bud.

[@007oli]

Had a 23zero outbreak which was excellent quality. Sold it cause I went to a rtt but if I bought another swag it would be from them again. 70mm mattress and was very comfortable.

[@ruthsandersasmallfishingvi2889]

Thanks for the review, 🌞

[@paulebbage]

great review mate. thanks

[@BigDismal]

Just wanted to say, thanks for the review and I wish I'd seen this before buying my Crashpad. I have the Hybrid and the 70mm mattress - that I paid extra for - is complete garbage. The kid has a Darche Dirty Dee and the 70mm mattress in that is amazing by comparison. I'll be getting rid of the Crashpad this year but not sure which one to go with. I'll definitely consider the 23Zero one though as it looks the business.

[@mikewasowski1411]

Interesting. Good feedback. Makes me feel good for choosing the 23zero

[@thedon7530]

Yeah, I just got 2 king single crashpads based on the good reviews online. The matresses are junk, especially the waifer thin fabric cover, which has worn a hole the size of a 20 cent piece after just one night camp. Hopefully the rest of the swag holds up okay. BTW although the traditional style crashpad swag is advertised on the website as being made in QLD, the king singles are made in China, hence the quality is probably no better than the cheaper brands.

[@andrewburrell5814]

Hi enjoying your reviews was thinking of purchasing the darche now looking at the 23 zero 1100 bandit. Could you please do a review on this swag as I like your honest opinion. Looking at purchasing very soon.

[@Haywoodjablomie100]

Would of loved to see all 3 rolled up side by side, but great review cheers mate.

[@robbiereddog4202]

Thanks mate. Honestly there's not much in in other tham length. Cheers

[@tbmich1976]

Bought a Crashpad cos of all the positive reviews and it had a hole in the canvas so couldn't even use it on my trip. Took my old faithful Darche Megadome instead and although I like the ridge pole design the Crashpad is crap in comparison in terms of quality. Returned it for a refund and they won't give me one saying it was only a minor issue so their customer service is crap as well. Definitely an overhyped product and I'll look at ARB, 23 Zero or even another Darche now instead. Thanks for the review.

[@robbiereddog4202]

Sorry to hear but only thing good with Crashpad is clever marketing through the 4wd youtubers who get it for free. Friend got a 23zero bandit 1400 which was missing clips sewn into the canvas. replaced with a whole new swag no questions asked. Great customer service by them and Snowys..

[@tbmich1976]

@@robbiereddog4202 yeah definitely well marketed. I thought the other reviews I watched were pretty unbiased, now I'm not sure. Crashpad did send me a replacement after I sent it back and they confirmed it was faulty but they ignored my request for a refund.

[@warrencoombes4258]

Imo, the arb is a pain in the ass to set up and pack up. It’s also very hard to get in and out of with that opening, especially when your in a sleeping bag. The same could be said with the 23 zero with that double opening. I use mine on a stretcher, so the mattress isn’t really a problem.

[@familyrig]

I've got ARB single and double....Not cheap but best. Only negative is colour of canvas. As soon as its sunrise, inside of the swag lights up which makes it hard to sleep in...

[@robbiereddog4202]

Yep the ARB is the favourite. Cheers

[@dwaynewilliams5404]

Also I notice the Crashpad PVC base sits flush to the ground, while the other two come up the sides an inch or two. I'd definitely prefer the security of the 'bucket' liner to having the seams sitting on the ground in wet grass or puddles during heavy rain.

[@robbiereddog4202]

yep doesnt have the bucket floor like most others. Certainly another potentional way for water ingress. Cheers

[@samueldwyer4880]

Hey mate was looking at a 23zero dome swag or the 23zero 3pole swag you have in this video which one would you recommend in 1100 width. Also have you had any issues with poles breaking on the 23zero.

[@robbiereddog4202]

No issues with any of the poles breaking. I personally like the 3 hoop design as it gives you more internal room and stops the side wall coming in. The only trade off it's a litle more of a pain getting in and out paticulary when on a strecher as you have to scamble in through a smaller opening. The traditional one you can swing your feet out without anything in your way. Everything is a bit of a tradeoff. Cheers

[@samueldwyer4880]

@@robbiereddog4202 also do you know if there is much of a size difference in the 3 and 2 pole when rolled up

[@eriktaylor7066]

@@robbiereddog4202 Did the 1100 Bandit fit on the Oztent stretcher pretty good?

[@robbiereddog4202]

@@eriktaylor7066 Thanks mate. Bandit fit really well with slight overhang at the sides. Most of the 1100mm wide ones site well on the 1m stretchers.

[@KaizenOz]

I've gone a bit soft and use an exped megamat in my swag, only down side is deflating before rolling up the swag

[@robbiereddog4202]

The megamats are probably the best going around. Just would like some more room in the actual swag as well. Cheers

[@KaizenOz]

@@robbiereddog4202 yep fair enough, three thickness's to choose from though, 75mm, 100mm, 150mm

[@chrishurley5711]

Think I saw you had a vid when you got it, you had it on a stretcher. I’m about to purchase the crashpad or the bandit but stretcher is on the cards. Will your bandit sit happily on a stretcher?

[@robbiereddog4202]

Had both on a Oztent RS1 stretcher. Eith will fit well on any stretcher thats 1m wide. Cheers

[@AdventureCampingAustralia]

Nice review, maybe you should keep the Crashpad for puppy! I've got to agree with you on one key point, yep, I'm a 3 pole guy too. Once you go to three poles you can never go back.

[@robbiereddog4202]

Maybe. Dog sure liked it. Cheers

[@dutch5580]

Robbie, I'm in the market to buy my first swag. It's a toss-up between the dusk-till-dawn or the Darche Air pole swag. What you reckon mate? I'll have it up on a stretcher. Cheers mate. Will be using it every night for 2 months off-grid.

[@robbiereddog4202]

Cant really comment on the air pole sag as I've never had one and personally dont know anyone who has. Currrently it seem alot op poles are breaking on the Darche swags so that could be a consideration between the two. The only other points is the air pole is about $200 more expensive and also you have to find room dor that big hand pump that comes with it.

[@dutch5580]

@@robbiereddog4202 thanks mate. It looks like I'm going to settle for the 23Zero Bandit 900mm swag. Looks like a decent piece of kit?

[@godsfriend4120]

@@dutch5580 I'd just get kodiak. All canvas. You can put some trees and tarp to make it 4 season if you need

[@r.i.pr.i.p4516]

@@dutch5580 if you’re going to go 900mm I’d seriously consider the arb sky dome 2 They’re not that much more for the 900. Just no bag.

[@clairebremner5437]

Which one is your favourite and why?

[@robbiereddog4202]

Out of the all the swags I've had I persoanlly like the ARB for a number of reasons: *good quality all round with the canvas, mattress, zips and poles *75ml eggshell mattress - very comfy *3 hoop design with large openings - easy in and out and stops the sides coming in giving you more room inside *internal pocket design and inetrnal and external ventilation flaps * easy setup and packdown I've just picked up a single from gumtree and having recently used that one on a stretcher will be keeping the single and double ARB as my go to swags. Thanks

[@jordant1502]

@@robbiereddog4202 how do you find getting in and out of the arb on a stretcher? I was looking at the 23zero bandit and dual but the arb seems to be getting a lot of good reviews just looks like it’ll be annoying on a stretcher

[@robbiereddog4202]

@@jordant1502 The base at the entry on the ARB is a lttle higher than the others and tends to fold down when getting in and out but also the entry is wider and higher making it easier to swing your legs in and out of the swag when on a stretcher. Either one are a good choice but ARB is my preferred option. Cheers

[@ronjeremy6128]

Mate, you should have got a Rainger swag. Best hooped swags on the market, bar none

[@robbiereddog4202]

Cheers. May have to have a look

[@cyclemoto8744]

Hadn't heard of those. Just looked it up, looks like it's well made with good quality canvas but I'm not a fan of 2 hooped swags due to the sag. Either 3 hoop swag or upright pole swag like the Southern Cross enclosed swag - I have a similar one which only has a single straight pole, made by Outback Canvas who unfortunately went out of business during the Dictator Dan Andrews' lockdown in Melbourne. Cheers

[@mikewasowski1411]

How does the bandit roll up compared to the crash pad and arb? Is the bandit much bigger rolled up?

[@robbiereddog4202]

Little thicker but not noticable which is probably due to better quality mattress. Arb is just longer being a double.

[@parabelllum8733]

I picked a Darche dusk to dawn over the Crashpad due to the internal height . The crashpad is claustrophobic imo . The Crashpad is clearly a copy . Im 6'2" and the length is fine as well .

[@robbiereddog4202]

I think the dusk to dawn is the better choice with a better mattress and more internal room. Don't think you'll regret your choice.

[@parabelllum8733]

@@robbiereddog4202 very happy with it . Also has a bucket floor and Rip stop canvass for the same price

[@hoanghontrennui1808]

❤❤❤😂🎉

[@mulza]

I get the feeling this bloke should've just bought a tent.

[@robbiereddog4202]

:) Fair call. Youll be happy to know I did - Oztent RV3

[@christurner68]

Buy a tent!

[@robbiereddog4202]

Thanks. Yep have a Oztent RV3 as well. Cheers

[@robbiereddog4202]

@My Email They're all very well ventilated and can let in a fair amount of cross breez and air when opened up. The ARB is warmer due to the heavier canvas and also less openings and ventilation around the foot area. Cheers

[@istp1967]

Cool kid 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@robbiereddog4202]

Yeh she loves the camera. Cheers

[@brucemercer8441]

.. Did you try it before you spilt the cash???.. As you said, everybodies different...