Byron Katie - Who is the perpetrator?

[@Vlatka211]

People misunderstand Katie. She is giving a way to end suffering and people are not ready to hear it. Hence the blame game.

[@yvettenieto4182]

Yes thankyou for posting the video-i hear this again and again

[@sanjalidevaji1784]

Thank you so much for sharing all these audios. So grateful!

[@alwaysinthenow]

you're very welcome, it's my pleasure to share

[@helioschan7705]

"It's not a problem until you think you're supposed to have blood on the inside instead of the outside!" I really LOL'd at this. I remember watching, in horror, a video where a woman was being butchered alive by her husband. Apparently, her husband could not bear the thought of her having affairs outside of their relationship. I imagined the horror, the pain, and the disgusting feeling that I would be experiencing, in her shoes, of the blunt blade inches deep into my neck. I am now re-imagining the scenario without the story that there shouldn't be my blood outside of my body, or that there shouldn't be a blade in my neck, or that I shouldn't feel pain, or that certain types of pain is more disgusting than other types. Without this story, I am able to witness this scenario in my mind's eye without cringing or imagining the ways that I could possibly suffer before I die.

[@willaeden3597]

Is this sarcastic?

[@helioschan7705]

@@willaeden3597 No, I was honestly doing the work on that... At least on how I imagined it would be like without ever having experienced it like the woman in the video did. That relieves me of the stress and suffering from where I am sitting, which is in the quiet space of my room.

[@elzen57]

Unbelievably powerful. Oh my God. Thank you thank you thank you.

[@alwaysinthenow]

you're welcome

[@manuelab9214]

I love this video

[@lexqbeanable]

Amazing although I can't understand exactly what she means about loving perps... i know she's Absolutely right. What a phenomenal woman. Phenomenal. Thanks again for sharing these!

[@alwaysinthenow]

my pleasure

[@maggierobbins4511]

Powerful!!!! Thank you again.

[@alwaysinthenow]

you're very welcome

[@judithmorgan1718]

w o w... again.

[@sheilakirwan6900]

Another amazing upload ......so revealing

[@rickandmortyfullepisodes2421]

nice!

[@samsungtabe7667]

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[@alwaysinthenow]

unfortunately those videos were taken down because of copyright claims by REELZ

[@catequinox1]

I would love to download the Audio - but cannot find that option anywhere - only actual CD purchase or Book - do you know of anywhere I can purchase an audio download version of that fantastic book?

[@alwaysinthenow]

i'm not aware, if you send me your email address i'm happy to email the audio files to you :)

[@catequinox1]

Oh my goodness that would be such an amazing gift - is there somewhere i can privately send you my email address?

[@alwaysinthenow]

the private message option is on the 'about' page :)

[@rainingpatchouli4476]

Can you know Katie that their wasn’t a perpetrator ? Hmmmmm... “no I cannot know that” well I guess that everything is God and their is no evil and we must all just lay down and take everything and be a puppet to the world and it’s ways...it’s your way of living...but see there’s so many ways to live and not all suffering is avoided by letting your ego make up this 4step question plan to try to convince your psychi that you do not hurt or feel for anything happening around you... where will those feelings go? In your plan you are turning all these normal healthy feelings of humans and turning them inward on people ..how confusing for these therapists ... and for the children who are molested... or beaten.. ok now children need to know that they were not molested? Can they really know that that’s true? YES!! can we teach the child that their perpetrator is the highest seeking to God ? Why would they need to be seeking God if HE is the perpetrator -he is all of us ... this is a big loop of confusion ... what do you get when you hold the belief Katie that therapists are misleading g their clients with their agenda ? You get to make tapes and judge them and their agenda... you get to confuse them and molested children everywhere... you get to free all the molesters and let them be closer to God than the children they touched... This is all a huge loop and I can say to all of this “can I know it’s true?” The answer is no I cannot and therefore the cycle goes on and on... Let me turn it around .. I’m angry at you because you are sick and power hungry

[@judithmorgan1718]

6/2/2020 8:51:53 AM it is interesting to notice i had both sides, your view and as the observer listening, ellen's and katie's interaction, and my own inner experience of therapist and perpetrator, as well as victim and accuser of perpetrators. my sister reminded me this morning to go back as far as i can truthfully recall, a time/place where my belief about my worthiness and lack thereof, contributed to repeated perpetrations towards myself kept others who had gifts offered from giving them to me. my awareness now, of the three-year old then whose reactions/emotions are as fresh and unconscious now as they ever were, can be faced with more kindness and understanding. is it true that i was hurt? yes. bullies were bullied. offenders were offended. that repeated (human recycling) action/thought/reaction of habits learned and unquestioned/redirected has kept me stuck in the groove that i cannot blame anyone for now. they all did the best they could with their resources. but now, there is a way to lay new pipe. i don't have enough mental drano to erase what happened to them, or enough self-loathing to generate others' forgiveness. when i walk around unforgiven even as i am forgiven by God, i am giving God the spiritual/literal finger. creation is is a dual understanding. it is the/an original cause and one complete (7 days/7000 years) consequence. all additional creation is a copied/mirrored activity, but is no longer original cause, only effect. the mis-take is assuming all actions are causes rather than responses. someone reacts to whatever trigger and whatever experiences i have/have had, through my filters, generational training/curses/blessings and reactions are simply my story/stories about me reacting to something out there. i am not original. nevertheless, the ego/mind/satan/perpetrator is me forgetting i get to choose. katie's mirror isn't saying perpetrators shouldn't perpetrate, or that victims shouldn't be hurt, because the reality we are capable of understanding with the resources we've never really been separate from, are the fabric from which we speak, move and have our being. but we cannot really see ourselves or others without our stories about our observations until we stop our own mental mix-master, and separate the thinking/reaction machinery and come to a still point. no one and no thing has changed. everything is recycling. the one true gift (love is gift and its demonstration we define as choice, or the ability to choose love and walk in it as it) is still the original cause from which we are made in the image; we cannot but accept love in totality as it is. loving what is, is accepting Love is-ing us after the fact. resisting/dis-be-lie-ving we be love in the image of original Cause, that we have no original causation and are only an effect, (a mirror of the originator who's been given for Creator's expression alone, and also have hardwired all the capabilities, a holographic representation we think of as human substance). We are made, created, for Relationship, one mirroring Oneness, to be duplicated over and over, with any and all degrees, depths, heights, colors and textures and flavors, through all dimensions; we, in our relationship with Oneness, or in the absence of Relationship As One, ‘creates’ separation (defined as sin with all those beliefs) from everyone and everything. If we can recognize separation pointing to the desire for re-connection, and then possibly recognize we are a cell in the All-ness that Is constant, one note, and understand the ‘I’ I think of as me, which is ‘ego’, then I can learn by contrast, I am broadcasting what is echoing back to me, that there's no one out there. all is/are 'in here', as the one mirrored back to Creator the whole wholeness, or in these questions, the absence of love being, is-ing me. Out of the heart the mouth speaks. The mind trips on the tongue, the ego loves the conflict, and we forget it’s a chess game, and we are each all the pieces, and players, and board. Blame is the absence of love in action. Whether we point that accusation at self or other, it is defense coming across as offensive. As Katie says, all war is suffering, and all hurt is our creation/reaction, and these also echo. We get to choose which/whose echoes to pay attention to. we are the Perpetrator of love or it's mirror. we are the victim or consequence of love or its' mirror. our only ability to consciously choose which side of the stick feels righter, can also only be truly 're-cognitioned' by the absence of the it we feel as 'pain' or 'suffering'. how would i know love if it didn't exist? how would i know the presence of any beauty if i didn't witness its' perceived-by-me absence? the four questions are not about who is or isn't a perpetrator per se. that's after the fact. the questions simply be the mirror one looks into to see if the face/mask/idea/belief is true or truer for the observer right now, compared to all the when's i never saw til i did.

[@rainingpatchouli4476]

Judith Morgan wow this was a mind blowing response! You are deep And some of this is way over my head. My simple mind is still pondering why a child should ever have to look back and become empowered by losing ones ego ...the ego quite well may have saved that child ! Running away, screaming, staying quiet and playing dead or along with the situation..the ego has a purpose . To kill ones ego , is to kill ones will to survive . A child is innocent and not sending out any signals or mirrors at such a pure high frequency ..this audio teaching is adults egos ...trying to make sin into growth and inner self work when in reality it’s a very low vibration that is harmful and has no place on our planet , when it comes to children being harmed in ANY FORM . Children are disrespected enough in our society and do you know kids can be hit with pretty much any object as long as it doesn’t leave a mark? That’s absolutely unacceptable and until we as a universe start to value ALL LIVES our vibrations will continue to be low and we will continue to harm the innocent and write fancy excuses as to why that’s ok. Enough is enough ! No child should have to ask themselves 30, 60 or 90 years later..” is it true?” Was I truly beaten to a bloody splat? Or...”did my soul want to experience that?” I just can’t resonate with this facet of “the work” ...the work in America needs to be more focused on protecting children from being treated like private property ... to do with as we wish. Yes that true 🙌. But thanks for your deep input ...I’ll read it five more times and try to dissect it’s meaning.💖

[@sheilakirwan9462]

Raining Patchouli and we can also see ..if we meditate that cause and effect operates...those who see past lives understand that in the conditioned world we reap what we sow ...of course many will not or cannot bear to believe this but can we absolutely know that it isn’t true ?...so those with the tools ...which anyone can learn if they choose...such as Tibetan monks who were subject to torture for decades by the Chinese, were able to see that this was their kamma and they practiced loving kindness meditation...which protected their own minds ...upon being freed, they were not angry or messed up...of course no one ...including Katie, condones abuse of any sort, but if it happened do you want to remain angry and bitter and righteousness for the rest of your days, or do you want to use the tools available to live in peace and happiness. At this time, their are many victims of past wrong doings in the world ...if we teach these people that they are right to be angry and a victim of the past, they start to see many as would be perpetrators and attack and defend accordingly...backed up,by well meaning sympathisers. Wouldn’t it be much better to teach the victims how to reach a place of peace in their minds rather than holding onto anger and bitterness...to teach thus in NO way condones abusive behaviour ...rather when one has a clear mind, free of hatred and fear, it is much easier to take the appropriate action .....you must have heard that victims become the abusers ...we see this at all sorts of levels, when there has been no resolution of the anger, fear, past memories....and the work is one way...meditation with enlightened (very rare) teachers is another way.....wishing you and all peace of mind....it’s the only thing worth cultivating....and it takes work and diligence..but there is no treasure more valuable.... if you are interested in Katie’s teaching and she would probably address the issue from a different angle with you, she currently does zoom from Monday to Thursday each week at 5 pm GMT ...to register google Byron Katie for breakfast.....you would see amazing work and you may get to do the work personally with her....