Is the Wiha CentroFix better than other bit holders?

[@nicholasscurti8001]

You saved the day for me. I purchased some double ended Wiha bits that wouldn't work in any of my bit holders, other than my existing Wiha holder.. I tried to do an internet search to no avail,, but your video popped up after a car video, & you provided exactly what I needed to know. THANKS!!!

[@williamkious5349]

Same issue! The Wera bit holder does work... Kinda. The bits won't lock in, but insert far enough to be useful.

[@adensmith8553]

Just wanted to thank you for your suggestion on the Wiha Centro Fix. I've had trouble finding a screwdriver that had no play in the bit holder this one is what I've been searching for.

[@PrimeToolbox]

If you take a Wiha Centrofix adapter and manage to weld it carefully to the PB Swiss handle, you can create the ultimate bit holder.

[@piotr2951]

Until you realize that Wiha Centrofix adapter is build differently and doesn't have those 4 bb's

[@garvielloken3929]

Dude!Does your mrs know you have that many bit holders!

[@bzeug]

Yes she does. Its about half the size of her shoe collection!

[@garvielloken3929]

@@bzeug HAHAHAAHA! Exactly my argument!

[@davidbent347]

🤣

[@donotrobme9295]

@@bzeugher shoe collection is probably not on KZbin making money, so there’s that too

[@giovannimercuri5168]

I have been so hesitant to pull the trigger on a bit holder because of all the options out there. This video was exactly what I was looking for. Thank you so much for the content and the detailed review. I am headed off this video now to purchase the Wiha!!!

[@ALAPINO]

You, Sir, are a man after my own heart. After all, "All work and no 'play' makes Jack the envy of all the tool collectors out on the interwebs." I'm sure that's how that one goes.

[@ktm250xcw]

Such a great video for us high-end bit driver owners/users

[@dixonqwerty]

I am new to the channel, I have to say I love your clean background. Makes the tool stand out much more. Great videos!

[@daves4026]

Finally got the wiha based on your recommendation. Thanks I agree with you. It’s pricey but no slack which is what I’m after

[@rickcarpenter4518]

The disadvantage of the collar-backward bit ejection drivers is that if you insert one of these in a tool belt etc you may accidentally eject the bit. Many years ago I bought a Klein Switch Drive which has collar-backward bit ejection that makes it *disgustingly* easy to drop bits. I used it maybe once and put it away for good. CentroFix is the best.

[@marexxx666]

Thanks. Because of your video i finally got perfect bit holding screwdriver. You saved me a lot of money. Great videos you got!

[@kimberHD45]

Collar forward helps if you’re the type to use your screwdriver to knock holes into drywall, your bit won’t jump out and fall into the wall. But the pull backwards type is definitely easier to use as far as memory use especially if you use a Dewalt impact driver.

[@search_eternal]

Nice review. I don't have any of those. But I use and love my Malco Connext1. It doesn't hold 1" bits, but works great with 2" and longer bits.

[@sandy_knight]

JIS bits are great for working on a lot of Shimano stuff (bicycle gears and, I'm guessing, fishing reels). These days hex bolts are more common but there's still plenty of bikes using them...Regards the two Hazet chucks near the end, IMHO it makes sense to have a pull mechanism on a small handled driver because you can put the butt in the middle of your palm and pull the clutch open one handed. On a longer handle most non-basketball players can't do that, so depending on the contour of the grip it might be easier to release the clutch by pushing it away from the butt.

[@DrWitoz]

Thanks for the detailed video on this cool handle! I really like how much work you put into this one. Kudos!

[@codysutterfield1052]

I just got the Wiha centrofix after having the Hazet for a week or so. And man!!! Wiha is much better

[@anne_frank_]

The bit retainer looks just like what Fein have had on their bit adapter for some years now, I wonder where and by whom it's actually made because I figured it was Röhm until I saw this. I've always wanted a bit driver that had retention as good as my Fein and I guess now I know where to get it, many thanks!

[@acki9449]

This! It looks just like the bit holder on my beloved fein ascm 18 qm cordless drill. By far my favorite among these type of bit holders.

[@JDGonzalezjr]

Wow.... I love what you did with the Felo Smart Handle! Well done!

[@davefoc]

Great the way KZbin videos introduce us to people's various obsessions. A bit holder obsession broke some new ground for me, but they were interesting and I could see it a little. But the collection of high end screw drivers? OK. I like it.

[@MeuReview]

Great review BZEUG! Congrats! 👏👏👏

[@juanclaudiodreyfus2801]

Love all your bit videos. Thank you

[@nicolasbusse]

Great review on these handy handles. Loved it

[@codysutterfield1052]

Thank you so much for this advice.

[@whatfreedom7]

I like collar on my wera. Pull forward to release and it stays forward. Pop the bit in and it locks back without having to touch it.

[@herrbela84]

I have the Omnidrive from Genius Tools. I love the versatility.

[@piotr2951]

I like that yellow esd version. It's slimmer and fits both my hand and wera pouches better.

[@user-fg2be3sy9k]

I use vessel 2200 with wiha centrofix but it's stuck in how to put out

[@UnderBakedOverEngineered]

Is it possible to move the locking mechanism/collar onto longer blades from WIHA? I'm amazed at how few manufacturers use multi-bearing designs for quick-change chucks, so it's nice to know there is at least one option that is made without slop being sold as a 'feature', but they only come in one length.

[@brumasbusiness]

Man, you are the screwdriver guy. Like girls like shoes you like screwdrivers.

[@rexradar9297]

Very interesting finding with poor runout of the centrofix adapter. That said the chucks on the Milwaukee Fuel drills are not very good either. Or at least the ones I have used. Typically 0.010" run out at on a bit at 2" distance from the chuck tip. So you may be able to "index" the adapter to the drill chuck and end up better than either is on their own.

[@anidiotinaracingcar4874]

How do the bits work in the Wiha and Hazet drivers?

[@gearstuffs8007]

I think I have to fully agree with u buddy!

[@issuma8223]

We would never tolerate a folding knife with a wobbly blade, but most bit holders do jiggle. That said, I still like my Snap-On ratcheting stubby.

[@seano51]

You could try making C6 bits from E6 bits by placing them in your mini lathe and then mounting a dremel with a cut off wheel to the post holder of the lathe to cut off the end of the E6 bits. It would even be possible to grind in the small retention groove if you wanted to do so. FYI, I 3D printed the post holder mounting bracket for my dremel.

[@bzeug]

When my C6L collection gets old I may have to get creative.

[@presidentpotato222]

You have made a video ..that hits the Nail on the head .. The WiHa huge bit holder .. means wiha can not reach in tight spaces .. wish they would make a dang thinner Bit holder .. so a wiha Stubby could be a An EDC .. masterpiece

[@DjentBoss]

I use a Malco Connext as my daily bit holder, I like it more than the hazet. I've been looking at the 'Festool Centrotec' versions of the wiha and wera, very curios if they're an upgrade.

[@mvevitsis]

As an aside, the anex 3350-H t handle is a better option than the felo since it doesn't require any modifications to work as a bit holder

[@user-ro1ed8rt7s]

I use Japanese Vessel bits and I was satisfied by the sturdy Hazet holder, but disappointed by the wobbling of the Wera one. Wiha stuff is hard to get at a fair price in Japan

[@Antony_blr]

Hi, I think you should try the Festool Centrotec Screw Driver. It is supposed to have a very good hold on the bits.

[@nickmagma7745]

I´m pretty sure wiha makes that for festool just with festool branding on it instead of wiha. Correct me if I´m wrong

[@Antony_blr]

@@nickmagma7745 Yes, the Festool ones are rebranded Wihas. Now they have moved to Wera ones.

[@anne_frank_]

@@Antony_blr Makes sense. My Fein drill has a bit adapter on their quick in mount that looks exactly like the one shown here, I figured it was from Röhm like their other heads but now I know who actually manufactured it.

[@leeh9420]

You have far too few Likes for as many views as you have. Really appreciate the thorough comparisons!

[@doctools]

Great collection! Nice video review, these are really the best ones in market

[@bzeug]

Thank you. Yes I think these are among the best on the market.

[@BLASTIC0]

what do you do for security torx bits? im having a hard time finding anything that fits well in these.

[@ddistrbd1]

You are obviously a collector,

[@JM-dr1th]

I'm curious what would be your favorite bit holder screwdriver currently with bit storage? I always look forward to your videos to discover new tools, however this review type video is even better, especially from someone who has such a large variety of tools

[@bzeug]

If I have to pick a favorite bit holder with storage, right now I would pick the Hazet 810R. Keep in mind however how nice PBSwiss products are and I don't have any PBSwiss examples with storage, so that is kind of blind spot for me.

[@JM-dr1th]

@@bzeug Awesome thanks, will give that one a try along with the wiha centrofix. PB Swiss is definitely a bit out of my price range. All I have from them is the magnetizer which I feel needs a hole for a keychain but I do like it otherwise

[@mrweisu]

Curious whether the shaft in the big handle is true and straight. You should have put it on the lathe and take a look. This thing is $40 after tax. So it’s better to be impeccable

[@RubenKelevra]

15:29 if you work with gloves a lot pull out towards the bit is the best thing, as you can just grab and pull. But I really hate bit holders which you need to unlock to put stuff in. I mean why?

[@albau2640]

Danke für das Teilen von Erfahrungen.

[@troyladoux1953]

I don't like the collar backwards. I have used them and the bit will eject if I bump the collar.

[@lyfandeth]

Your own purchase link shows the 76000 as discontinued by May 2022.

[@bzeug]

Thank you for letting me know.

[@Ender_Wiggin]

When are you going to try the LTT screw driver

[@shannonmcstormy5021]

I don't suppose you first, brought the....warped? matter of the adapters to Wiha's attention? and I don't suppose you know if they've addressed this in any event? I'm wondering if this was on purpose, though it seems unlikely, but no more unlikely that this error escaped their attention in the first place......

[@A_Ck9]

Thank you body. I saved this video as a reference for me.

[@TheMandalore04]

Bought the hazet based on this video. Rock solid on quartet in long bits. Have some 80mm wiha and wera bits and they have quite a bit of play. Do you have the same issue or are they all as solid as the japanese bits you demonstrated?

[@DelgadoElectric]

Man I love the modification on the felo smart handle. The tool is much better now! I’ll be attempting the same once I get mine. Love your vids!

[@DelgadoElectric]

Took a year but I finally did the same modification to my felo smart handle. Great idea👍👍

[@Just_Putzin_Around]

What size set screw did I you end up using?

[@DelgadoElectric]

@@Just_Putzin_Around I ended up using a small hex head 6/32 set screw

[@Just_Putzin_Around]

@@DelgadoElectric 👍 thanks man I appreciate the fast response, also I just ask OP but would it be possible to remove the ball detent and just tap that hole?

[@DelgadoElectric]

@@Just_Putzin_Around I ended up knocking it out on accident when I drilled my hole. It’ll come out easy, just be mindful of hole size

[@garvielloken3929]

Awesome Vid, BTW. Thanks for posting

[@scottyee707]

is it possible the white lettering is the old version because I ordered a power bit set I think 7-8 years ago and it came with that one

[@bzeug]

You are right. I realize now they where phasing out the white painted logo at that time.

[@Towerfrank993]

Is the centrofix bit holder available on its own so I can use it on another handle that holds bits?

[@charlesmasse4784]

just try the megapro from canada

[@chriskelvin248]

Do you think the ultimate do-all frontline screwdriver would be some smooth action ratcheting number with a comfy grip, bit storage and a centrofix quick release bit?

[@user-md6qp9mp4g]

Hi, on the WIHA side, the yellow and next to yellow can you name the model's? Thank you

[@bzeug]

Wiha CentroFix small ESD: amzn.to/3lIg6zK Wiha ClickFix: amzn.to/43skiqe Wiha 26inOne: amzn.to/3An0Ooo

[@Sffker]

Please explain why “play” between the bit, and the holder, really matters. It seems more of, an opinion, almost knitpicking, to critique the angular misalignment of the two. In what situation, would a few degrees of movement reduce the efficacy of using the tool for the intended purpose? for a bit 3-4” long? Or less? Hence, why that play is, for the most part, rather irrelevant. If the bit stays in the holder, and isn’t so bad it’s like a wobble extension, don’t see it. My wera 27ra has slight movement, but in no circumstance in which I’d ever use it, do I see a detriment of such misalignment/movement. The only thing I can see people complaining about it, about, is for more “tool snob” purposes.

[@linkstale]

by any chance do you know what bits i can use besides Japanese bits that will fit in vessel screw drivers or Makita impacts? their centrofix would've been a great solution to the issue but i guess its terrible

[@sunpark9662]

Thanks your video. I have a question. How did you drill a hole in the felo's head? (felo + wiha adaptor)

[@bzeug]

I recall using a cobalt drill bit. Filed it flat first, then drilled it in my mini mill. Tapping was the hard part, very slow and careful. The tempered metal is not easy to work with, but I did succeed.

[@sunpark9662]

@@bzeug you best!

[@MadLadsAnonymous]

Love my Hazet 810 silent ratcheting but have been wanting a bit holder that eliminates play. Do either Wiha or Wera sell a standalone bit holder that's ESD rated? I can't seem to find them (without handle). I could see myself using it with the Wera Turbo & Vessel bits for electronics. Best of all worlds! (or could you use the Centrofix adaptor with the Wera Turbo?)

[@ReadyUpGo]

Thank you for going to the trouble of making this informative video for us. Much appreciated. What I haven’t found on KZbin (and you are the man for this) is a how to when a situation comes up where you want to create the coved or wedge shaped relief in the hex shank of a bit that activates the holding system of the holder. Like if you decide to cut off a bit for some reason but that destroys the original end portion of the bit that triggers the locking mechanism. I seem to come across that situation quite a bit with my widely varied professional and amateur pursuits. Can you explain the specs in general and function of various bit holder types enough that will enable the well meaning diy enthusiast to learn by destroying…no. I mean by trying? New subscriber Steve

[@neil9505]

Hi bzeug. Just got my Wiha Centrofix bit holder in the post. Ordered via Amazon UK. Shipped from Germany to the UK. It has the Wiha logo moulded into the handle in red rather than the white printed version, so maybe that's the stock the stock they have in Germany? All I can say is... Wow! Night and day difference between the Wiha Centrofix and Wera's Clickfix. Just tried a few of the Wera bits in the Wiha holder. Barely any discernible play. Feels almost like a 'regular' screwdriver. The price dropped a tiny bit since I ordered so I'm thinking I might order another as a spare in case they discontinue them.I did reply to your reply to my previous comment but it vanished. I was asking if there is much to chose between different brands for the bits/blades side of things, and if there was any particular brand you'd recommend. Quality seems so variable these days so I figured it'd be silly not to ask. Thanks again for showing these Wiha holders. Probably wouldn't have tried them otherwise. 👍

[@bzeug]

Thank you Neil. It is easy for me to recommend PBSwiss bits, expensive but such good quality. I also like the Japanese VESSEL brand PROKON series of Philips (really Japanese cross type JIS) in many lengths to choose from. Here is an affiliate link to Amazon Japan, which is where I buy the VESSEL brand bits. amzn.to/3GF1UzQ

[@Przemo-c]

I have this bit holder but it's also badly seated in the handle even more than what you've shown in adapters it's annoying even with short bits. As much as the holder is solid it is extremely annoying for it to be bent as much.

[@user-lp7dd7dz9m]

Finally someone pronouces Wera correctly!

[@mvevitsis]

Does centrofix work with double ended Japanese bits or only single ended ?

[@bzeug]

Somewhat. The Double Ended slender type are a little wobbly so for those I would say no. The double ended bits that are not slender at the tip have just a slight wobble and are fairly stable. I would say those are usable in the Centrofix.

[@mvevitsis]

@@bzeug by slender at the tip you mean the sakisubo bits? I prefer single ended anyway since I don't see much benefit to double ended bits.

[@bzeug]

@@mvevitsis Nope. These are the ones I am referring to: amzn.to/3ucsZZh (Affiliate link) These non-slim double ended are not perfect but are usable with only slight wobble: amzn.to/49tg7hv

[@user-yo6xx8im9w]

I guess Vessel doesnt have any bit holders?

[@bzeug]

I just reviewed the 2200MBH. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3fafZh_eLqChtU

[@joaquinchan9936]

I feel like I reached the end of time by finding this channel.

[@Leon-Belmont]

I saw this video and even if it is old i will like to ask you about the wiha, it seems there are 2 versions of the wiha "red" the one you talked and the "yellow" wich you also have it there but you didnt talk about 😭 for what i heard, the only diference i know is that the yellow has something called "ESD" and its supose to be something to prevent electric discharges... or sonething like that 😅 do you know if they have other diferences? I want to be sure of wich to buy 🙏

[@neil9505]

Thanks for the great video. Very helpful. I just ordered the Wera rapidapter bit holder set and also one of their ratchets. Instantly unimpressed with how much play there is between the holder and bit. They went straight back in the box to be returned. I'm trying to order the Wiha centrofix holders and some bits, or one of the 35 piece sets. I can't seem to find anyone with any stock. I've tried searching German suppliers as well (I'm in the UK) It feels very much like they've discontinued making them and/or the blades. There's an EU seller via Amazon that is selling the centrofix holders but I'm not sure about buying without any way to source the blades. Do you happen to know if this is a tool/set that they are phasing out? Thanks for any feedback.

[@bzeug]

I edited the affiliate link to Amazon.DE in my video description area to make it a little easier to find. Don't forget to click "Show More" to see all the links in the description. Amazon.DE has the CentroFix Bit Driver in stock. Use my link amzn.to/3Akzx5H and you are good to go. I sure hope Wiha does not plan on phasing out CentroFix. I hope they fix the bad wobble in the adapter version of the CentroFix.

[@jesustheyrealltaken]

Excellent information, thank you. You wouldn't happen to know of any other holder/extentions that can hold the Wiha double ended bits do you?

[@sergey8692]

We need PB Swiss handle with centrofix adapter!

[@Albdentist]

Is there a link to the vessel procon line ?

[@bzeug]

I just added one to the description. Here it is for convenience: amzn.to/3PET1uT

[@Albdentist]

Wow ! Thank you so much for your quick reply! Done and ordered !

[@ovidiuandrei8087]

Will the Centrofix bit holder fit Wiha's Slimline bits for electricians (e.g.: Wiha 283110035) ? Those are much easier to get (here in Europe) than the Wessel insulated ones (such as PS161110). Thanks

[@RsFrag3d]

I m having a hard time finding a decent ratcheting screwdriver with no shaft slop/wobble. Something with bit storage would be nice but just a slotted/Phillips flip but comparability would be just fine

[@neil9505]

Hi bzeug. Thanks for answering my queries. I somehow managed to accidentally delete my question. Oops. 🤣

[@mvevitsis]

does the centrofix force work with Japanese bits? Do you recommend that one?

[@DJJAW11]

... I like you, you seem to have similar mindset myself. What do you think of the Klein Tools 32614 Screwdriver, Precision?. 🇬🇧🇺🇲

[@zjenji]

I want to hack my Felo Smart handle the way you did. Can you tell me what size set screw you used? Thanks!

[@bzeug]

The pins and screws were not replaced. Those were all put back in. I just used what came with it. I used teflon tape to try to remove play.

[@4142mkb]

so useful review 👍

[@davidsmith2663]

Can you give me a code for the small Hazet bit driver please. Not the 810 the smaller one

[@bzeug]

Hazet 810BHK: bit.ly/3xvkSD7

[@seano51]

Could you see if your Wiha and Hazet bit drivers securely hold C6 bits? I ask because I can pull out a C6 bit out from my 810BHK holder; however, my 810BH will hold them securely. This becomes an issue I've found when using C6 hex to square drive adapters for sockets. When I go to change out a socket, the adapter will come out of the 810BHK holder. I wonder if your 810BHK has the same issue. Also, is this an issue with the Wiha especially because it does not have the ball detents located on the corners.

[@bzeug]

You are right! There is some problem. I just made a video about what I found. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHfXXml_j9xkgcU

[@seano51]

@@bzeug Wow didn't expect a video reply. Thank you for looking into this!

[@emiliog.4432]

Two or 3 bit holders, tops. Nothing like a good set of screwdrivers.

[@Mack_Dingo]

Is that the point of SS bits/drivers? For SS Fasteners?

[@bzeug]

Yes, to avoid contamination of the SS fastener and get rust going.

[@Raul-ef2ie]

Try the PB Swiss ratcheting

[@bzeug]

I've been looking at those, also looking at their torque products.

[@stuartherod4618]

Hi - Have you tried the Wiha 7148CM bit holder in a Wera 817R extending screwdriver handle with the Wera extension removed? Its a remarkably solid solution. I don't know if its also the case in the larger Wera extending handles as I don't have any. Incidentally, the Wiha 7148CM is magnetic and doesnt take the Wiha double ended bits so I assume the magnet takes up space and prevents this. Just thought I'd update you....

[@ilkero1067]

Great videos, love your content. Does the small and big Hazet’s hold double sided bits?

[@bzeug]

No. Those are a no go. They don't retain. They wobble. The slender type wobble a lot, such as these: amzn.to/40PJoPs

[@ilkero1067]

@@bzeugThanks man. Can I interpret this as they do fit inside but the retention and precision is bad?

[@FixItWithMe]

So do the Milwaukee shockwave impact bits fit in these type of bit holders?? Thanks!

[@neuronflow]

Did you also try the centrofix force?

[@juanclaudiodreyfus2801]

Love your videos. Thanks for all the insight. I saw Felo has a new bit handle 64853. It has a collar and looks similar to the blue Hazet. Would love your take on it. Maybe it's the best of both words? A better handle with a good locking collar? Thanks

[@bzeug]

Very interesting. Thank you!

[@kamil7307]

Hey just wanted to follow up about the C6L bits, they are still available in EU although the stock is drying out slowly. I saw multiple stores having couple of each type on stock but surely some most popular are already gone.

[@kamil7307]

And by the way, got the Wiha CentroFix today, completely agree, no play in the chuck, solid grip, very impressed!

[@bertanderny]

Which bit holder would you recommend for a impact wrench to hold those Japanese bits?

[@JustaPoke]

Hey thanks for the video, very informing. Subbed :) - May I bother you with a question about the double-ended bits: I have the big 26-in-1 with those bits, also ordered the new Stubby version with those double-ended. I don't like the big grip of Wiha however. I notist you have the ESD version that has a slimmer grip, but you don't mention if and how you like that. Could you give a comment on that? Also I like the new small Hazet, but I guess that won't take those double bits either?

[@bzeug]

The ESD CentroFix is really nice. I do like the size, fits in folding pouches without being too bulky. Use for laptops and small electronics.

[@JustaPoke]

@@bzeug Thanks, do you know of any other bitholders that take the Wira double ended bits?

[@bzeug]

@@JustaPoke Sorry, but no. Hard to find anything that works with the double sided bits other than the CentroFix and 26 in One.

[@NKKBerlin]

For small bits there is the Wiha CentroFix Super Slim...

[@blackforestoutdoor9861]

The Centrofix is also my favorite bit holder. However, the Wera Rapidaptor has one advantage: even with the bit inserted, the case can still be rotated freely. Unfortunately, this is not the case with the Centrofix. Is it the same with yours? Greetings from Germany

[@bzeug]

On my centrofix with no bit inserted the sleeve rotates. With a bit locked in, the sleeve is difficult to rotate but it can be rotated against the friction.

[@gxsszh]

Hi,I like your video.What about Vessel bit holder(6310/220w)?thx.

[@mvevitsis]

Do they make a centrofix small diameter handle in non-esd or only clicfix?