Cabin Heat In The Sling TSi Is More Efficient Than Conventional Airplanes

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The more we build, the more cool safety feature I discover in the Sling Tsi. No one thinks of Cabin heat as anything important. May be it’s not as important as your engine running well, but when you think of the conventional heating system in single engine airplanes. The cabin heat flows in from a shroud around the exhaust pipe. Mostly safe, but can be dangerous because carbomonoxide can find it’s way into the cabin with that system.
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[@LTVoyager]

Another plus for liquid cooled engines. You can now have safe heat like cars have had for a century.

[@Captndarty]

Being that it’s liquid cooled like your car I would’ve thought that type of heating system would be obvious🤷🏻‍♂️

[@fngonzo]

I thought the same thing

[@salvatoremilitello8490]

And with a heater core like a car if u need a lil extra cooling for ur engine crank the heat up could keep u in the air a few extra mins incase of engine running hot situation

[@JonMulveyGuitar]

Another great clip on your way to completion. Congrats Mike! Go MojoGrip Go!!:-)

[@toonpicturesforall8480]

Thank you so much for your videos! Not only do I enjoy them. I learn so much from you. This video is a little bit on the slow side. Still received awesome information though. A lot of the information you share has become invaluable. You are amazing. Thanks 😎

[@GarrettWillingham]

I love watching these videos, so informative.

[@FlyingwithBigErn]

Good progress on the plane Mike! Looking forward to you flying it for the first time! Cheers!

[@robertviscio2441]

Another beauty of this system, is you can get heat on the ground on cold days with a fan blower.The heater does not depend on aircraft speed in forcing air thru a heater muff as used in conventional single engine aircraft.

[@Sugar87Tits]

So, it's a heater core.. I like how the aircraft industry makes it sound more complicated than it is to ramp up costs. It's literally the same as a car. LoL

[@ibgarrett]

Correct, but what makes this a really nice feature over the traditional heating system is there is no risk of getting CO2 into the cabin. The older aircraft are incapable of doing a system like that because they are air cooled, not water cooled. So TAF is taking advantage of the water cooled system and making a much safer airplane.

[@nateb19]

Yep. Liquid cooling, fuel injected, full computer control. Great , aviation has made it into the late 80s in terms of automotive technology. Now that will be 40 grand for that “high tech” airplane engine please.

[@KofiAsare0]

@@nateb19 Lmao yeah, aviation is in the late 80s in terms of automotive technology because most of the ga planes around are from the 70s and 80s. That why we love experimental!!

[@nateb19]

@@KofiAsare0 yep sad state of affairs. You can thank the lawyers for that one( anytime a private plane crashes, they want to sue the manufacturer. hence insurance costs for the manufacturer is through the roof) agree experimental is the way to go.

[@jj355f1]

@@ibgarrett CO in the cabin

[@billbixby6804]

Great lesson. I had been researching online if ultralight aircraft have heat. Little info out there. Great lesson.

[@frankvandenberg5981]

great video as always. love the Sling TSI builds you always lear something, albeit something unexpected... at 2:53 I hear the exhaust-heater is of solid stainless steel aluminum... that I've not heard of before ;-) My rotax has a aluminum heat catcher around a steel exhaust but I guess that is what he meant to say.

[@alexandrenazario7857]

God Job Mike Totally awesome!

[@alansari1985]

I really like your videos man keep it up!

[@muhammedashad4160]

Hey Mojo Nice Videos Keep Going ❤ From India

[@From_torrents]

Good job Mike! :-) I wish you all the best in your prodgekt! :)

[@jamesbarros950]

That added coolant space is going to increase engine cooling efficiency just a little as well. not enough to mention, but it's nice when the side effect of a feature is another feature.

[@pauldatche8410]

Totally awesome!

[@danliddiard]

I'm looking forward to seeing the Sling TSi High wing!

[@scottoconnor3484]

Mike, you hve evolved into a better and better journalist. I enjoy your innocence as you learn about the Sling. John is a class act. Looking forward to the maiden flight.

[@USArmyMilitary]

Greetings friendship: The concept and purpose of this video is very good. I hope that development can do the best at every opportunity to make this video content grow to be great and useful for many people

[@tjflynn1014]

So, he is talking about filling those holes with foam. Is that a spray type foam? If so, what type of spray foam is he using?

[@aggibson74]

Is this an option, or is it part of the standard TSI kit?

[@danizweifler6061]

"heating system"..... // does sling provide the possibility (= standard) of filtering the incoming air (= housing for air filter mounted behind firewall or so) ??

[@hansmngwamba1949]

Hello. Thank you for giving us all these knowledge on different airplanes. My question is ...is there any 6 seater experimental airplane out there? I've 3 kids, 15, 10 and 2 years old. Sling TSI is my first choice but it only seats 4. Please let me know if you know any 5 or 6 seater experimental airplane

[@dictatorjames]

Bearhawk just introduced a six-seater version IIRC

[@johnnybumpous9108]

that's a great system, I was always concerned about those exhaust heating systems...never used it until I was almost frozen..lol

[@chadpm11]

Cool The same cab heater that alot of tractors and Crain cabs have in it made by reddot co.

[@DanFrederiksen]

Cool :) I don't think you have to feel pressured to wear a mask for video use just to keep up appearances. If you are only a couple of people in regular contact, it's a non issue. And corona death toll in cali is after all no greater than a typical flu season so we are not talking about the end of the world. When did you last expect to die from the flu. Building planes is great but can't help feel there is so much more potential. After seeing the Lancair IV-P, what turbo and pressure cabin enables, I can't help wonder about combining the monobody construction of fiber composite and aero shape in a form compatible with easy pressurization. 915 is a good fit for the job if only Rotax could be talked off the price ledge. Crazy light weight sleek body with 2 or 3 tandem seats doing 500km/h high in the sky burning no fuel. It would be a game changer.

[@RomanKozlov007]

Mike Patey Jr. 😉

[@NkrumahTure]

It's coming along Mike.

[@garrygballard8914]

So Mike are you planning on flying around the country to do more videos ? You could make them more adventurous. Have you ever seen Trent Palmers channel ?

[@johncollins6023]

Is that your plane when you're talking about the heater core?

[@operator0]

Yes, he's doing an assisted build.

[@operator0]

Liquid to air heat exchangers are more efficient than air to air heat exchangers, which is what air cooled planes use. This also has one more benefit; it allows for extra cooling of the motor, although I'm not sure that's going to be beneficial in an aviation application since airplanes don't rely on a fan to draw air through the radiator like a car does. This is the same exact system 99% of the cars on the road use. Old Porches and VW s used the dangerous and inefficient air to air method because they were air cooled engines, just like your Lycoming and Continentals are.

[@discerningmind]

This has to have some fresh air coming in too.

[@jerrymcbride3611]

Great proven Heater Core system taken from the auto industry, this becomes another point of periodic inspection, heater cores over time can leak and fail, great way to put the hot coolant to good use.

[@brorsen-metcalf]

Be sure to remove from the airplane any piece of material that may have been left, you must do a thorough cleaning. Saludos, espero verte volando pronto en tu avión.

[@fngonzo]

So like a car.

[@emmanuelmaobuchi7420]

I want to build my own plane, what I need is steps that I need to follow

[@nateb19]

first step, get money. For a plane like Mojo is building, expect around 200k USD, and closer to 300k USD with build assist.

[@hanro7430]

First

[@guitarguy483]

I dont think its really a "safety feature". How many times have you heard of a GA plane crashing from a passed out pilot or an accident due to CO poisoning. This was maybe a bigger deal 50 years ago, maybe. But the fact that it just doesnt happen with the fact that many aircraft that use heat from the engine get certified. If there were any safety concerns theres no way planes would be certified with it. To me the heating system in the TSI is just wasted weight even if only a small amount, im sure it comes with its own mechanical or safety risks as well

[@PhilipFly11]

If a pilot is incapacitated by Carbon Monoxide and crashes over water, or on land in a fireball, how often do you think that the NTSB would find evidence of that Carbon Monoxide poisoning? The NTSB, and other aviation investigators, do not have the resources to investigate GA accidents in detail. They are focused on airliner accidents. Recently, on 21 January 2019, a Piper PA-46 Malibu crashed as a result of Carbon Monoxide poisoning from a traditional exhaust heater. Nobody would have known about this but for the fact that the Piper had been chartered to fly Emilio Sala, a young professional footballer from Argentina, on a £15,000,000 transfer from one club to another. The aircraft went down over the Channel, between France and the UK, and was found on the seabed under 220 feet of water. It was too expensive to recover the aircraft, however, Emiliano Sala's body was recovered and a post-mortem toxicology tests showed a Carbon Monoxide saturation in the blood of 58%. A saturation in excess of 50% is generally considered fatal. The pilot's body was never found, however, he was sitting closer to the heater outlets and would likely have been exposed to a higher concentration of Carbon Monoxide. Almost all cars, except for the VW Beetle and Porsche 911, switched from exhaust pipe heaters to coolant heaters, about 100 years ago. Aircraft exhaust heaters are not safe. The fact that legacy aircraft are certified with exhaust heaters only shows that they are reasonably safe when new. Legacy aircraft now are 40, 50, 60 or more years old. Exhausts do suffer from hairline cracks and joint leakage. The problem on an air-cooled aircraft is, how else to heat the cabin?

[@EJWash57]

Trust me, any gadget that takes skill and conscientiousness out of the equation get's slapped with the "Safety Feature" Seal of Approval. The cabin heat system takes advantage of the liquid-cooled feature of this particular engine - period. How hundreds of thousands of air-cooled engines using the exhaust pipe heat shroud system to provide cabin heat - that is still being used on new aircraft - have survived all these years is some sort of miracle?

[@zutrue]

No actually it a pretty big deal now!!!

[@frankhanratty4230]

You may want to watch the Dan Bass story on the Taking Off KZbin channel. He passed out at altitude and awoke in a field.

[@roastman4520]

You are kidding me. You have that mask on your face.

[@peerplaut]

Thanks for wearing a mask!

[@pawh100]

I can’t pay attention with that mask on your face talking to a camera.