From GOAT To Garbage | The Wasted Potential of Moro

[@CAGExplains]

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[@alatusedits]

No thanks. I value my own sanity more

[@onisfury8264]

It looks fun might try it out.

[@KamehamehaSuperStyle]

OIL UP BRO

[@nathanieljones8043]

Can I pee on ed Sheehan tho?

[@IIIISai]

Can u make a fixing zamasu video I had an idea for a change in zamasu, lets stick with the manga varient -When he makes a million clones and decides to destroy everything goku tells him why are you doing this, is this how you plan to live the rest of your miserable life just destroying everything like an animal... and it triggers a brain freeze in zamasu where he kept watching that barbaric race and how disgusted he felt, and how he killed his master and got lost in the corrupt power, has that typical What am I doing scene, and then abrubtly gives up...does a monoluge yata yata and then since goku already called zeno, zamasu goes to a special god ki restraining solitary prison right under where the zenos sits.. So now he has an ominous presence, skip to tournament of power and while goku recruits freiza TRUNKS is the one that recruits zamasu with a warning from grand priest if he acts out again hes erased or your universe is, so with that setup, trunks approachs this locked up zamasu which acts smug, and says well your mother is already gone why resist fate, which trunks starts beating the green off zamasu which was his plan since zamasu believes mortals should release these puny emotions so it doesnt mess up future team chemistry since he was given a heads up on this tournament, trunks finally stops and tells zamasu just dont whine on the way there During the tourney zamasu targets jiren since hes apparently another mortal above a god, he gets taunted by the belmod, and jiren speaks to him condesending, zamasu while trying his best gets worked and punched in the face back to back to back while jiren tells him a god is a worthless title when you cant even make a mortal drop a spec of blood, zamasu gets flashbacks of the whole goku black arc, his mortal complex, his change, he reverts and snaps and starts killing bystanders and crashes out, fuses with the world of void and starts hakaing jiren, this is when priest erases him, but he went out a more developed and interesting character Oh and this is the fused zamasu, hes a perma fusion, also better design by far..

[@rasamasala]

I honestly preferred the old goat version of Moro and what they were doing with the kais and buu cause it was genuinely pretty interesting

[@espurrseyes42]

And then he turned into Cell 2.

[@Bestow3000]

@@espurrseyes42 When he looks young, that is how he should've been already. If they want an ultimate form, then add some Diablo ish looks to it and done! No Cell 2.0.

[@MrArthys]

@@espurrseyes42 it is pretty bad, but nothing is worse than Cell Max, that whole arc is atrocious.

[@dummyalex4781]

@@MrArthys i agree man and it’s sucks so many glaze it like it isn’t a giant slap to the face to people who actually fw what happens rather than just the eye candy

[@pauloazuela8488]

@@dummyalex4781 I do like Cell Max as an abomination attempt to cell since it's red ribbon although would've work best to have scene where they got Dr.Gero schematics and attempting to recreate another cell.

[@GeteMachine]

I honestly hate the "copycat" villains that just absorb people and copy their moves. It made sense for Cell (he was intended to), and I got how Buu did it to transform okay, but Morro really had no reason to become another one.

[@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக்]

TBF it is possible to write copycat characters in a creative way, for ex: Amazo in Justice League or Rouge in X-Men.

[@UniversalLopes]

At least Buu ended in his first form and was a funny dude

[@blacklivesorblackvotes2985]

@@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக் no, just stop. Do something else ffs.

[@offthedeepend3996]

Buu doesn't bother me as much as Moro. Buu had enough unique things going for him to be his own thing. Most of his abilities were magic based. While Cell doesn't have magic.

[@professorhal8098]

I guess it’s a reminder that the Universe is running out of beings that can dominate Goku so the only beings with a chance left are people who cheat: IE people that exploit mechanics of the universe, between dragon balls, absorbing power, and using RoSaT

[@dangerousdays2052]

I also didn't like how the Z Fighters failed to defend the earth against the low-level baddies and Goku had to come to save them. Toyotaro could have given Tien and the others a chance to shine but nope, he did the same tired old trope we've seen so many times since the Saiyan Saga. 🙄🙄

[@kaidenjohnson2624]

They failed to defend earth before this isn't new but hey knows toei can change things by having them win and not be failures

[@dangerousdays2052]

@@kaidenjohnson2624 That's the point. Having the Z-Fighters get croaked until Goku shows up is an old and played out trope that needs to die. Toyotaro could literally have had Tien and the others win against the minions then lose against Moro, but nah, he couldn't even give them that much.

[@Anonimus299_0]

@@dangerousdays2052 thats how power levels works according to toei

[@RantRadio]

I don't care what Anyone says, Toyotara hated everyone except Goku.. The disrespect the Z warriors have suffered since Saiyan Saga needs to be studied. They got a lil shining light helping Gohan defeat Cell (anime only) and Resurrection F minions, but Freiza henchmen are like Raditz/Nappa power level. All I've wanted is an arc where Goku & Vegeta are off-world or trapped somewhere in another dimension and it's up to Captain Gohan, Team Leader Piccolo and the Z warriors including teen Trunks & Goten to fight and protect the Earth, to not only prove to Goku but to themselves that they can work together and defend Earth. Hell, I've even wanted a mini arc with the wives taking down a red ribbon-esque enemy with Chi-Chi & Videl showing great teamwork with their martial arts and Videls ability to fly, 18 being the powerhouse to fight that which Chi-Chi & Videls couldn't and Bulma could even build herself an iron man suit as powerful as normal form Vegeta.. Maybe even a typical funny moment with Bulma & Chi-Chi trying the fusion dance and failing due to Bulma having no ki lol

[@SagaTheGemini-tg6fz]

​@RantRadio acting like toyotaro is at blame for this is crazy, let's not forget TORIYAMA made the cell and buu saga and the z fighters were useless there (at least tien kinda stopped cell). If anything, it's toei's and toriyama's fault

[@trainson7]

when toyotaro hyped up the 3rd wish for 8 weeks he took a page from one piece

[@CAGExplains]

😂😂

[@trainson7]

mero even got a fake "death" which is overdone in one piece (pell, kinemon, etc)

[@sirnetflix7162]

@@trainson7 Yeah, that's one negative about One Piece, Oda is very hesitant on permanently killing characters because he doesn't know if he wants to bring them back (I assume) for some other purpose, but there are many times where a character SHOULD die and they don't.

[@primalgod7952]

You do realize op copied dbs right that op panel came out way after that Moro panel

[@theonetruefusion8533]

What page? What are you talking about, I’ve read both and would have noticed that

[@elfinm4rs770]

A really cool idea for Moro would have been to use necromancy controlling the husk of bodies he drained the life of. Which would have gone well with his Eldritch Mage Identity and wouldn't have needed to waste the wish on the prisoner army when he would have had one in the mindless husk that he would control.

[@KapayaSiame]

Or cursing magic like poisoning one’s ki, sealing spells that prevents channeling of god ki, high level illusion magic that affects all the senses of an opponent. Moro with such magic could have been a force to reckon with. Shame Toriyama( MHRIP) and Toyotaro never expanded the scope of magical abilities .

[@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக்]

@@KapayaSiame Fans were speculating that Moro was gonna lock Goku&Vegeta out of their transformations, fans have better imagination than Toyotaro who only knows how to copy old stuff. Babidi honestly was more impressive warlock than Moro, he could possess evil people which is an ability unique to him. Whereas Moro's only impressive use of magic is ki draining, which is already a staple android ability.

[@KapayaSiame]

@@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக் it just shows that they failed to write him as a wizard. Towards the end of the arc, he pretty much became an “android “ with special abilities instead of being an ancient dark wizard. Imagine if his final wish was to summon his fellow mages ( just 2) from the demon realm and help him conquer the universe.

[@Rude_Boi]

If Toyotaro wrote Moro like that, then fools would have said that he ripped him from Gecko Moria from One Piece.

[@KapayaSiame]

@@Rude_Boi ah yes because One piece was the first series to have necromancy…😂

[@JackRippa-bq9qo]

But fr tho i cant wait to see him animated in 2536 its going to be peak

[@CAGExplains]

Hopefully with 500 years to cook the animation is good 🙏

[@Gabriel-Crandall]

@@CAGExplainsso he is a bad character or no?

[@davigabriel783]

@@Gabriel-Crandall He is just a bland villain with nothing that make him special. His magic his wasted

[@jjDub331]

Don't forget about that 50 year hiatus.

[@j_official4138]

im pretty sure toei and toyotaro still hate each other, which is why the dbs manga and anime are so different, so moro arc aint getting animated any time soon 💀

[@RebelTrooperHoth]

Old Moro looks so cool, his final form looks like shit

[@shido_rimru_]

Fact nobody asked is crazy

[@malekd.ketchup9047]

Yeah, the final form looks like a cell reskin.

[@jordancromwell]

​@@shido_rimru_"nobody Asked" typical 12 year old response.

[@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897]

Eh it looks better than young goat moro atleast, thats just boring to look at. If the anime adapts moro then i hope they dont make him too young

[@GeteMachine]

Agreed. I hate his unoriginal transformation.

[@JoshuaLowe-ci3wo]

Toriyama trolled us with Cell. He never brought Cell himself. He just made Moro & Cell Max who only give Cell vibes

[@Casual_guy1234]

I think cell may have jumped him

[@jasonblack2477]

Toyotaro wrote morro

[@yadafty7671]

@@jasonblack2477 It was written by both of them but mainly toriyama. Toyotaro says Toriyama always gives him a plot structure and what he wants to happen and toyotaro draws it and can expand on it. He rarely ever creates something brand new that toriyama hadn't kind of already came up with. Toyotaro even says he would never write anything that would change the lore or plot massively which basically proves the writing is like 70% Toriyama.

[@jasonblack2477]

@@yadafty7671 toyotaro literally came up with granolah and also the new dragonballs. He has to ask for permission

[@yadafty7671]

@@jasonblack2477 Toyotaro came up with granola but where is it stated he came up with the new dragon balls? Toyotaro himself stated he doesn't like to change the world lore and only toriyama does that. And creating a whole new set of dragon balls is very much changing the world lore. So toriyama would have came up with that. Besides Toriyama would still have wrote the entire arc anyway. So all the awful writing decisions in that arc weren't due to Toyotaro alone.

[@ExcellentEmperor]

The not breathing in space thing is my biggest pet peeve and it's worse because they're basically already in space when Vegeta declares that they can't breathe in space

[@Neuvillete4.6]

Atmosphere

[@ExcellentEmperor]

@@Neuvillete4.6 The atmosphere isn't a hard line of oxygen to no oxygen. It's gradual. And the point they were shown to be in the page was already well outside the bounds of breathable air.

[@SuperBlueGamer9000]

​@ExcellentEmperor finally someone with a brain that knows how oxygen works

[@baked7423]

they can go in space but it's like being underwater they cant fight for long in it is the issue

[@SaiyajinJay]

the god forms shoudlve allowed them to breathe in space

[@marxea]

he had so much potential, but of course, they fumbled the bag...

[@CAGExplains]

I actually have no idea what Toyotarou thought he was cooking making him a Cell clone 💀

[@JackRippa-bq9qo]

Ah man he was so unique this old and wise mystical being who has such a unique view on everything . Seeing everyone as his food and i would've loved to hear his thoughts on what life and death means to him or what it meant back then also the knowledge he has on the universe Why not make his second wish "bring back all the dead planets and creatures back from extinction " bcz a character like this only changes the balance of the universe and make the arc angel vs demon themed which would make merus's sacrifice the more meaningful and never bring him back Make vegeta's goal when he learns about sf to be saving all the people moro ate not to beat moro Its fine to have moro absorb 73 but don't change hia character and look that much.... buuuuut yeah toyotarou was toyotarouing Such wasted potential

[@Reivaz88]

@@CAGExplains people say that he's supposed to be the narrative embodiment of all of gokus challenges and enemies, and Goku can only beat him by realizing he must protect the universe and that he can only do that with the help of his friends ( the spirit bomb at the end of the arc)

[@Did_I_ask]

​@@MagicDragonfictionit's pure dick riding and nostalgia and unnecessary nitpicking from the DBZ fanboys who see even one similarity from super and they go off

[@ghost2inkling229]

He kinda is a cell clone. I wished he was more like a ancient world eater other than another cell@@MagicDragonfiction

[@MegaMangaking]

Not gonna lie I disagree on Moro being bad because his motives are boring. Freiza is evil "just because", hes just evil for the sake of it. Cell is evil because he was programmed to be and buu is just evil incarnate for no reason

[@CAGExplains]

Don't get me wrong, Moro isn't bad just because his motives are boring. Moro would've been fine if he stayed a hungry Goatman wizard, it's that combined with him becoming extremely derivative of Dragon Ball's past to the point it got distracting is why I don't like him.

[@atrckr-bf7de]

Another problem is the repetitives of it, we seen it before so its even less impactful even with a slightly different spin on it. So overall hes rated worse than the older versions even if he was a bit better

[@streptococo4735]

Frieza is evil because he sees everyone as inferior, and he is a sadist. People like that exist, so "Just because" isn't accurate. DBZ shows you exactly who he is. Moro on the other hand is just boring.

[@Freefall347]

@@streptococo4735 Freeza also wasn't the super generic "I'm going to kill everyone I can just cuz" kind of evil. Like, with Cell, I always wondered what the endgame was supposed to be? What do you do after you blow up earth? Just fly around space forever? With Freeza, he didn't want to kill everything for no reason, he was ruling an empire and seemed to have every intention to keep doing it, he just wanted to do it forever. The fact he has some sort of life and skills outside of just fighting and killing already sets him apart from all the other villains. Like, if he lost all his powers and somehow became a normal schmoe, he could probably get some sort of job as an administrator or something.

[@sansboi1760]

​​@@Freefall347people take their guesses at what would have happened although I like to think that eventually Supreme Kai might have came to recruit cell to stop buu.

[@onisfury8264]

He's basically just Cell but a magical Goat 🐐. He could have been a good villain instead of just being a Cell wannabe as Sub-Zero from mortal Kombat 11 would say such wasted potential.

[@CAGExplains]

Honestly, if Vegeta was allowed to get the W before he became a Cell clone it would've been all good

[@StevenJones851]

​@@MagicDragonfictionMorro didn't develop as a person

[@StevenJones851]

@@MagicDragonfiction i already understand some villains can't developed I'm just saying Morro as a Villan lacked any interesting qualities even if he didn't developed also i wasn't talking about you as a person you Nimrod

[@StevenJones851]

@@MagicDragonfiction He's a rip off of Cell in certain parts of the story and his wish to restore his youth was a rip off of King Piccolo's wish from the OG DB Series

[@StevenJones851]

@@MagicDragonfiction i prefer Baby the Tuffle from DBGT he was a much better Villan than Morro and his Hatred towards the old Saiyans for destroying his Race was a interesting Storyline that needs to be expanded upon in a DBGT Remake

[@ebonyfreeman2962]

Blud stole Cell's whole flow that's crazy, "call me perfect moro" like what dude?? Cell definitely looking up from hell pissed off

[@_V.Va_]

He ought to bust his way outta hell, and slap the piss out of Moro to save this arc.

[@KapayaSiame]

Moro was this promised ancient wizard but his magic serves only to do cool “ bum bum piuu piuu”. You could have made him to hypnosis, space time changing, body transfigurations, elemental manipulation , literally anything you can imagine. But all we see is absorption/ draining life energy and either attacks you with or uses it to level up his physical strength . His “spells” are techniques that ki users could do as well. In the end, Moro becomes another strong guy who punches really hard and is told to go train as if he was a fighter 😂

[@krpowe6663]

Yep and I can imagine ways they could have taken to add it in the manga, but remember Dragon Ball has always been simple. Nothing complex. It has always been a light and simple manga. With more and less light moments of course. Toriyama doesn't like complex stories. If Toyotaro came with these ideas and made them too much complex Toriyama would have disagreed.

[@starlow9159]

Gas’s fighting style is what I imagined Moro to be. Creating constructs like a green lantern would have been cool to see on top of Moro’s gravity manipulation and life drain. We could’ve had more lore about the demon realm and learn what magic ACTUALLY is.

[@bloody4558]

@@starlow9159 Gas fighting style is trash, it fails to sell the Idea of him being strong when he barely has any actual skills, he just asspulls energy weapons and attack with it. I agree that Moro should've done more with his magic, but it should be more wizard stuff, summoning climate, messing with space. He was already manipulating elements, but he should've relied on it more. I've no issue with him throwing hands though, I find the whole "mages can't fight" moronic, specially since this trope was born on D&D over a balancing patch because Wizards were simply too broken in the first D&D edition. So it's not something that need to happen in a fantasy story.

[@theultimatetrashman887]

BRO ACTUALLY TOOK A SPONSOR FROM A AI DATING APP LMAOOOO

[@quocbaonguyen2108]

Gotta get that bag 🔥

[@teoperez7163]

Man's gotta eat.

[@ScirioBirdLover]

Bag is bag 🗣️📢

[@XRoyalBlueGokuX]

This was for the people who wanted to date moro (so relatable)

[@Son_of_GodKas2xBLK]

Bet you used it lol

[@toottootsonicwarrior5777]

So Moro is literally just a living bossrush?

[@CAGExplains]

Pretty much 😂🤔

[@calebyoung8805]

I’m so tired of god ki being just regular ki 🙄🙄

[@Funnyomoney]

This right here. What makes god ki different from regular ki anymore? It’s a concept that had so much potential but was executed poorly in my opinion

[@TrappyJenkins]

I was so hyped to see a magic user instead of a traditional fighter. They had a chance to really change up how the fights were staged. but they just defaulted to normal punches

[@kyeblade06]

The funniest part of this arc is piccolo saying vegeta isnt one to underestimate his opponents

[@muffinfighter3680]

Bruh I hate how they are rewriting Goku's and Vegeta's characters in Super.

[@kyeblade06]

@@muffinfighter3680 yea the regression on vegeta respecting goku is just thrown out the window for a while and it annoyed me. And yea we dont gotta talk about what happened to goku.

[@hurricane7727]

Dragonball Multiverse Fanmanga U18 Piccolo Smacks Head.

[@Spring_32]

He is literally Lord Tirek from My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. Twilight Sparkle was able to beat him in less time than Goku and Vegeta.

[@_V.Va_]

Maybe if Goku relied on the true magic of friendship more often he'd struggle less.

[@hassanshibani221]

Maybe cuz dbz is not some stupid little girls show about rainbows and cringe friendship magic 😂

[@CAGExplains]

Originally I was holding off on making this video until DBS Season 2 dropped, but since that's not going to happen until 2030 at the earliest I figured I'd just get it over with lol. Thank you guys for all your well wishes! As you can see your boy recovered, got a zenkai, locked in and finished the video! Being ill almost gave me time to reflect so I revamped the Patreon, those who want to support me should be able to no matter if they want to donate $1 and should get everything in return! The other tiers are just bragging rights lol 🔥

[@UnwantedGhost1-anz25]

I hope Dragonball Super anime returns after Diama premiered. Should the Galactic Patrol and Granola saga get adapted?

[@DaYapGuy]

Play DB LEGENDS and dive into Zahha as a character.

[@DaYapGuy]

@@MagicDragonfiction Bruh, he was pretty tame compared to other vids. If Toriyama was alive, then he would be way harsher on his critiques. Also, he gave a few compliments to Moro so he's not hating. He has a different opinion, that's all.

[@DaYapGuy]

@@MagicDragonfiction But HE, PERSONALLY, doesn't like Moro. There are people who have higher standards for Dragon Ball... like Casual Anime Guy.

[@DaYapGuy]

@@MagicDragonfiction You know positivity can be toxic right ? Also, yes, Casual Anime Guy is a real Dragon Ball fan, he just has problems w/ Moro. That's it.

[@thewanderingronin5433]

If you think about it, Moro could've been a multiversal threat. Upon finding out about other universes, gods, and angels, he could've actually absorbed merus. Powering up enough that beerus and maybe Zeno would've had to step in

[@CAGExplains]

Oh I'm gonna get into that in my future "fixing Moro" video. What I'll say for now is both Moro and Broly represent Dragon Ball Super no longer dealing with the multiverse at all, which is a big shame.

[@DontatMe-u9h]

@@CAGExplainsi feel like they were introduced because they need to amp up the power because multi universe is definitive. Its pushed super heavy into all non canon dbz content. (Heros, Xenoverse, Sparking 0) I believe a lot more on the conflict will reside outside the universe.

[@baked7423]

thats exactly what happened tho. Moro was planning to destroy the universe and possibly even universe 6 depending on how u translate it. beerus literally was gonna step in because it was getting so bad

[@liberleo1384]

​@@baked7423 why didn't he step in sooner anyway? Moro was always a threat to the universe as unlike freeza he wanted to absorb all planets and was enough to threaten the Kai's before Buu wouldn't this be enough for him to get involved like with zamasu?

[@DontatMe-u9h]

@@liberleo1384 Because Beerus is Goku’s new goal. Goku was up for the challenge, Beerus wants him to finish it and grow stronger so he can one day match him. Should be pretty straightforward like that.

[@Maina980]

Moro is NOT 🙅🏿‍♂️ getting invited to Sparking Zero

[@anthonygarland8839]

If you think about it he would be actually unique by that his move set

[@UnwantedGhost1-anz25]

What about the anime?

[@theonetruefusion8533]

Haven’t seen him yet for any reason, hope we see him or granolah soon, I’d love to see how they play

[@El_Peje]

​@@theonetruefusion8533They are not gonna be in the game until they are animated...

[@theonetruefusion8533]

@@El_Peje that is literally the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. Not only that they’re apparently not animated yet (how long has it been??) but they’ll wait for them to get animated, that is actually one of the stupidest things I’ve heard, all for what, some more accurate colours?

[@Xis_sa]

He’s literally just a mix of all the dbz villains he could’ve been so unique how tf do you even fumble that bad😭🙏

[@GeteMachine]

He would have been more unique if he was his own character and something new like just a planet eating wizard.

[@Xis_sa]

@@GeteMachine he was a planet eating wizard😭

[@josesosa3337]

I wish he kept his gaotee when he transformed. His goat features were very unique as a dragon ball villain. At least I think he's a goat.

[@Xis_sa]

@@josesosa3337 yea

[@blacklivesorblackvotes2985]

He’s literally just another Cell. There was no way he was gonna be unique when it was already done. Do y’all have Joe Biden memory?

[@danieldorvil7683]

Ngl Moro with Xehanort’s voice tied with Bardock Falls playing in the background is so pristine and perfect I’m shocked you didn’t do more of it

[@eduardopantoja9115]

I feel like Moro could have been a cool Galactus type of villain . Someone who has no hate for anyone besides those who gets in the way of his lunch. he just wants to eats and moves on. unlike Galactus the gods hate him because he's messing with the natural order of the universe and his existence is unnatural. When others try to talk to him to try to reason to him. he just says, stuff like, "You eat meat and I'm just eating more meat. all food contains life both plants and animals so why does it matter that I eat. If you want to keep your food alive and well then you'll have to take my head before I bite yours". That's all he has to be. He doesn't have to be more complex than that and doesn't need to be cell 2.0 or talk about his abilities that much. In fact it would be better to keep his abilities magical based and nothing that looks ki based. He should also keep his deign more goat like then human like to help him seem less human and more unique. And as for his defeat, I like the idea that he simply gambles the last of his magic to merge with the planet and uses it as a method to put the people that he views as just food as a hostage. Like if you kill Moro, all life within the planet will die with him. But Moro slowly dissolves to become the planet and, in the end, he became food because the amount of damage he gains made his will way too weak to take control of the planet. it would be ironic for Moro who consumables life within planets to die by being a part of a planet for a reckless and desperate move to win.

[@jilhaneyisaiahdanielb.8878]

He should have stayed like The Lich from Adventure Time. Some evil wizard who is good at magic instead of a fighter.

[@smtandearthboundsuck8400]

Caseoh

[@Oreca2005]

⁠yeah the guy is a living disaster than a fighter who can dodge well or pull a good mix up

[@gabethebabe3337]

They should have saved Moro for an Uub antagonist.

[@BafokengMahase]

I totally agree

[@itsreihart9865]

Off topic but I think it would be cool for Uub to learn techniques from other humans since he is technically human, imagine someone as powerful as Uub using Tien or krillins moves.

[@miky9504]

@@itsreihart9865 If only someone remembered a Tien move that wasn't the Tri-Beam loo

[@yashbhuiya7156]

​@miky9504 i mean...alot of the moves that the Z-fighters use started off as Tien's moves. Particularly Solar Flare and the Clone tecnique. The only other technique most of the other Z fighters havent copied is Dodon Ray (though Chiaotzu knows that technique along with Tao given its part of the Crane Style)

[@miky9504]

@@yashbhuiya7156 Yeah, it's just that it's frustrating that some of the moves he made (Solar Flare, or the Volleyball Attack) are made to look like someone else's signature move (Krillin and Gotenks) and all he gets is to use the Tri Beam. At least have him use the Dodon Ray every now and then

[@SonZackSSJ9k]

Tbf being hurt by lava is easily explained by Moro just using his Magic to amp the lava and such.

[@kindlingking]

"You see, they've speaking in ki amplified sound waves, which lets them talk faster than light, it all makes sense"

[@SonZackSSJ9k]

@@kindlingking it actually would in a battle where Goku isn’t suppressed.

[@tiablue9106]

Personally I’ve never rlly had a problem w/ lava being able to harm the characters; I honestly found it kinda stupid when goku and Broly were fighting in lava, no auras around them or anything, and they were totally fine. I think heat should affect a fighter no matter how strong they are, that’s how it was when Vegeta fought magetta

[@SonZackSSJ9k]

@@tiablue9106 tbh the problem with it is that Magetta is way beyond planetary so ofc it’s gonna hurt Vegeta while Earths Magma is nothing in comparison.

[@baked7423]

its not really lava but more so the planets energy anyways. the coloring makes it seem like it is

[@Snotnarok]

Moro was such a frustrating arc. I heard it was terrible, I read it and was surprised that it was pretty good- for super. Badass design, does some neat things. Then he absorbs the android gets the same face as Frieza, Hit, similar to Cell. Want to make your own DB badman? Add some lines on their cheeks going to their eyes! The goat was perfect, not every damned enemy needs to transform.

[@Meelow-jp8lb]

Fun fact: Toriyama designed Cell, hit and Frieza, and thr facial design they all shared was apart of his style. If you want to complain about Moro having Cell's face, complain that Cell is just Frieza with a different design and voice.

[@Snotnarok]

@@Meelow-jp8lb I'm aware of who made DBZ and their style. But having the exact same design used over and over again isn't a style. That's reusing a design and it's boring. With Moro it's not like you say at all, he spent the entire arc with a cool goat design looking totally different till the last 5 minutes where he's like "whoops, DB villains are supposed to transform, time to get boring!" But yes I'll happily complain about Perfect Cell. Because his perfect form is very boring compared to the first form that looked intimidating and somewhat creepy. I think he's a badass looking villain in his first form and it all went a way to be more humanoid and boring.

[@georgecostanza9440]

​@Meelow-jp8lb but that actually makes sense because cell has some of frezia DNA bruh moro doesnt 💀

[@bloody4558]

​@@georgecostanza9440Moro doesn't have Cell's face he has that Android's face. You guys are all deluded if you think he looked like that because of Freeza and Cell. No, here's the truth, all Dragon Ball characters look similar. Just take Gohan's face and add any other character hairstyle and you'll see that Gohan will immediately look like that character. This an issue with Akira's art style not with the character himself

[@kawaraianimeslayer4710]

I'm starting to think super saiyan blue is the same power level as the super saiyan form. The only person who ever made it feel strong and godly was Gogeta, like the as Cage said in the video, what does god ki even do

[@nora-yc6fi]

That's what I'm saying Blue Gogeta has been the only person to make Blue feel... godly

[@kaienglish271]

Perfect ki control , new techniques , healing , Let’s them fight at 100% in Blue constantly, UI , UE we really acting like God ki doesn’t do anything ? 😂

[@kawaraianimeslayer4710]

@@kaienglish271 What's perfect ki control when Gohan and Broly can brute force and overpower it

[@ididntaskverified3663]

Nah he he got you there, god forms are there and they do jack

[@kaienglish271]

@@kawaraianimeslayer4710 well clearly not when Broly isn’t stronger than them 😂we acting like Broly and Gohan are some normal Saiyans when they ain’t

[@MatthewHollow]

This is what i be saying. Copying stuff from your own work is worst than from other stories. It is lazy writing...

[@stephanos6128]

aint nothign wring with a callback or cinematic parallels, it becomes a problem when its a crutch

[@memebrain2177]

​@@stephanos6128or overused

[@skoop4477]

i don't remember toyotarou writing dragon ball

[@keiviroque5666]

Toriyama isn’t the writer for DBS.

[@HeyyyJude]

Did Toriyama really write Super? Everything in Super always seems like a callback or fanfiction. Never really got that vibe from Dragon Ball before

[@liberleo1384]

I believe he assisted in its writing and supervised it's progressed. Toyotaro is the main writer of super apparently a fan who made the dragon ball AF fanmanga series which drew serious traction before being recruited by toriyama and being his successor.

[@exclusive_98]

Toyotaro only did the art

[@lp-kt1hu]

​@exclusive_98 written by toyotaro and just reviewed by toriyama, so no toriyama didn't write it .

[@pric3lessl0s3r5]

Than you clearly never watched a DB series properly. Or super. Most people just watch Thr anime guy vids and think they know shit about DB From Z to Super. Not surprised anymore.

[@TheRed02151]

@@pric3lessl0s3r5 how small is your package exactly?

[@DrAwoken]

Moro is literally that one Dragon Ball AF villain "Cellbuuzer" lmfao

[@733ism]

Planet Moro is a rip off of Final Form General Rilldo

[@CAGExplains]

Oh yeah I completely forgot about that guy! Maybe I'll rewatch GT for a review around when Daima comes out 🤔

[@fbafoundationalbuck-broken6011]

@@CAGExplains TOYOTARO IS A FANFICTION WRITER, HE IS ALWAYS DERIVATIVE.. HE REUSES STUFF-NONSTOP.. THE WHOLE VEGETA ULTRA EGO INTRODUCTION WAS LITERALLY JUST GOKU VS KID BUU. DUDE EVEN COPIES SCENES FROM SPIDERMAN.

[@themarkerchannel3170]

@@fbafoundationalbuck-broken6011you aint wrong

[@Akiraspin]

He started off like Babidi if he wasn't fodder and ended like a poor mans Cell.

[@reallyhimongod]

It turned to 💩 the moment Moro fused with 73 and just became a generic super boss.. such a missed opportunity to explore more magic abilities..

[@GeteMachine]

Yup. His transformation sucked and the fight he had with Goku just felt like Gohan vs. Perfect Cell recycled.

[@RagingGuts-tl7ot]

​@GeteMachine That's pretty much 90% of how DB fights go, though.

[@dangerousdays2052]

Moro was cool until he stole Hit's face. 🤣🤣

[@Skrunni]

Btw how did he eat 73? How does it even make sense that he can just eat an entire being and obtain their abilities? Was it even explained at any point that man is just cell.2? Tf??

[@RagingGuts-tl7ot]

@RandomGuy-eg8zs It's anime dude. A lot of anime does stuff that don't make sense.

[@nicoctr2673]

He was given a senzu bean...like Cell

[@azimuddin1890]

I don’t like this saga, but Mr.Boo here was peak besides how he was in GrandTour.

[@jupiterapollo1944]

Merus and his story and motivations was the highest point of the this arc. The fact that he was created made super way more interesting.

[@Rude_Boi]

He was also given a senzu bean, *like Cell.*

[@Sorain1]

Honestly, Instead of pulling the whole 'I eat an android for power lol' they should have had Moro get desperate and prove to be a much bigger threat because now he's using he actual advantage: Magic. Straight up have him and Buu spamming transformation spells at Vegeta and Goku, Moro trying to put them in position for him to kill them and Buu undoing it or at least changing them so they'll survive. (Example: Moro turns Vegeta into a frog and goes in to stomp. Buu turns him into rubber/jelly so the stomp doesn't hurt him, but has to still get him again to remove the Frog effect. Have Buu seem to 'fail' to undo Goku being turned into a jawbreaker, because he knows how well that went the last time and Moro takes a hit or two before undoing it himself.) Moro throwing up illusions, popping hard CC's like hypnosis to put them to sleep (potentially have Goku shrug that off because he's been hit by sleepy from Roshi enough, just for more call back points.) hostile teleport away (and this being a feint for an illusion to set up because he remembers Vegeta using Instant Transmission before.) Drop some slow/haste effects in there, whip out portals to 'deflect' attacks at another good guy. Go all in on how smart he is and have him seemingly recover a ton of energy without explanation after he's lured them into a spell circle, with the reveal being it formed an inverse hyperbolic time chamber situation, so the second for them was long enough for Moro to get back a ton of energy before his arrogance means he re-engages. It would be something fresh, unique to Moro and establish the threat of this ancient mage archetype as more than just window dressing. Also about the third wish: Imagine if it was 'split the power of the three strongest living beings other than myself between the top 20 other than me evenly.' meaning Beerus, Goku and Vegeta. (Angels don't count as 'living' because rules.) Moro understanding that it's very hard to coordinate that power between many people and bring it to bear on him vs a couple of people.

[@Sizifus]

Power scaling, transformations and Solar System destruction level abilities is what basically destroyed any tension in Dragon Ball. It was a huge problem in Z as characters couldn't be utilized effectively due to constant clashes with established logic and the like. There is some effort in trying to push past it, but this is something that can't be retconned, it's basically one of the main pillars of Dragon Ball at this point.. That's basically why to me every new arc in DBS just feels so hollow, with the ridiculous levels of stakes put on the table it never feels like there will be any meaningful consequences as the main band just ends up basically at the same point.

[@LeonardoSilva-xm8ft]

True, like, in Battle of Gods it was necessary for Goku to gain the God form to be able to minimally fight Bills, and now all the villains that appear are at the level of a God. And characters gaining transformations out of absolutely nowhere without explanation because yes, just like Gohan

[@doryu1004]

26:16-26:30 This is Moro's voice moving forward. That was beyond perfect, I don't understand but this means everything to me

[@jae3276]

The gooner meme😂😂😂 the jackie chun donation 😂😂😂😂 ur really tuned in man love the comedy

[@dosidicusgigas1376]

Mom can we get a Cell? No son we have a Cell at home. The Cell at home:

[@BigG627]

I have to say this, how many villains can a anime make? Guys at one point everything will be regurgitated, you can’t come up with something “original” at one point because you’ve used up everything.

[@_V.Va_]

At that point, just don't introduce new villains, just reuse the same guys.

[@soundrogue4472]

Again Broly did have character. Broly when suppressed for his power was hazy, unfocused and unable to clearly speak or do anything. Then as he let's out more power he gets more psychopathic and berserk with him going into over drive with referring to himself as, "a true freak" Broly was pure rage and hate. Not a complex character but a character none of the less.

[@invaderIRK1]

A consistent theme of DBS: Regurgitation and the lack of any originality

[@Xanvast]

This arc has to have been produced by AI...

[@kapiushonarcher913]

Okay as one of the few who enjoyed this arc this was funny

[@Chris-th5fl]

That third wish felt pointless as it felt like moro could hace broken the prisoners out himself. If he did that then the namek dragon would have one wish saved and that could have been used by granolah so that they would not have to introduce that weird new dragon that requires only two small dragonballs

[@kevo5133]

That would make even less sense 😭 why would Granola just show up to Namek when he most likely didn’t know of other sets of dragon balls, or even where New Namek is? Maybe if there’s a bounty there and it happens in circumstance sure, but there’d be no reason for a Namekian to be a bounty, someone a peaceful tribe. And then Porunga would have to just be, waiting there, for the whole Moro arc, and then for Granola to appear, which is not going to happen, he’d dissipate either on his own for taking too long or the Namekians would just let him leave, or better yet, if the third wish were to remain, they’d just wish for all the Namekians that were just killed to be brought back then and there. Another set of dragon balls was a wild card but still plausible, I mean that’s literally what happened with earth; a stowaway/exploring Namekian who’s able to make his own set thusly did so on his now new home. For several more Namekians to be scattered around the universe, potentially with the same case, isn’t that much of a leap when we’ve already seen this before with Kami/The Nameless Namekian

[@Chris-th5fl]

@@kevo5133 I'm sure granolah namakian friend would have should him or he would have been secretly around during the moro arc and gotten to the dragonballs right after. It's not really something to overthink about.

[@kevo5133]

@@Chris-th5fl I mean I doubt it, considering he hid the second dragon ball so that Graonola _couldn’t_ make a wish, don’t know why he’d then tell him about his planet’s set. He didn’t even tell him about Bardock and all that, so it’s clear he hid things from him. Though even if he wanted to, he doesn’t know where New Namek is; his original home got blown up, with New Namek relocated. The only time Granola could’ve been “secretly” around in the Moro arc is by looking for bounties, and by happenstance pass by Moro’s ships as they scoured for planets for a while. There’s no reason for him to be on Namek nor Earth, and doesn’t seem to know how to get there. And still, Porunga would’ve been long gone by then _if_ he could reach New Namek, and he’d still need to know the Namekian language to get a wish at all. With Moro literally just have happened, I don’t think the Namekians would be super cooperative with yet another random person seeking out their dragon balls, so he can wish to be the _most powerful being in the universe,_ for rather selfish reasons. It’s not much overthinking when there’s just a lot of bending of logic behind it that you can’t ignore, while the original story is still plausible, albeit out of left field

[@dansmith1661]

There was no reason for having three wishes since there was already the Namek balls. Even the wishing stone got power creeped.

[@specialnewb9821]

He was doing pretty well until he ate 73 then it got downgraded. But UI v UI is amazing.

[@XanielMarino]

It’s interesting to me how Super has had so many of the same problems that GT dealt with where they have good-sometimes great concepts and ideas, but just execute them poorly or struggle to pay them off in a satisfying way. He isn’t perfect by any means, but it seems nobody can do it like Toriyama did in his prime

[@purplex4065]

''you're either perfect, or you're not me''

[@Thailandsmostwanted]

this sounds like a critique on moder dragon ball as a whole tbh

[@imbeddeddog7193]

8:05 “Then Moro gets even 𝓕𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝓲𝓮𝓻” 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[@Yosokai]

Man, one of my biggest issues with DBS has been how so many aspects felt like rehashing old DBZ ideas/scenarios, and Moro last I'd heard was still one of the more original-sounding ideas - clearly I haven't heard about him in a while, and I agree it's disappointing what was done with him

[@user-ox3me2qt7c]

Glad to see that you've gotten better! I love your videos and they're very well made. Watching your Broly video even inspired me to start reading Journey to the West. Take your time with videos and look after yourself!

[@CAGExplains]

Thanks a lot bro! I'm glad my video inspired you to do something productive lol I definitely will be taking better care of myself now that this video is done with 🔥

[@stillbrian9448]

I feel like you’re looking at this from the wrong perspective. It’s not a bad thing there’s a lot of parallels with other DB villains, it’s a good thing. Picking some of the coolest things from previous villains and slapping them on a character and also giving him his own backstory in my opinion works pretty well at least in Moro’s case. And tbh Granola arc isn’t as bad as some make it out to be

[@chunkysaurus785]

I still can’t believe Buu actually got to do something this time

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

Bro really be out for war with these titles... Moro was still much more better than Granolah Bar...

[@CAGExplains]

If I get too much heat I'll change it "From GOAT to Generic" 😂

[@Khann_2102]

​@@CAGExplainsNo keep it that way 😂

[@MLG11256]

​@@Khann_2102 Moro is not that trash as Granolah bar lmao

[@Khann_2102]

@@MLG11256 I know, I just want to see if there's people that easily gets mad

[@itzYonko]

😂They are both hot garbage compared to literally anything else that's come out this past decade. The only people eating up the super Manga are children in Japan and damn near grown men who can't let this franchise just die already.

[@Draconicus702]

Weirdly enough, Moro's initial design reminded me of the "My Little Pony" villain Tirek. An elderly centaur that absorbs the magical energy of others to gain strength.

[@jilhaneyisaiahdanielb.8878]

Because he is, and some Baphomet. He should have stayed a warlock.

[@sarafontanini7051]

all I know is his final form feels really generic and like a perfect cell ripoff while his original goat-likr form was cooler and more unique

[@javiermemphiz7694]

Rise and shine, Mr Freeman. Cage has uploaded a new video.

[@CAGExplains]

YESSIR! 🔥😤

[@otherguyjo1684]

I never acknowledged Moro as a real character. I think they used him as a scape goat or placeholder to give themselves time to come up with something else thats actually original.

[@axolotl1777]

Hes a goat alright

[@cashordeals3672]

Man his first design is so cool wish it stayed like that oh well if and when he is added to bt4 I'm definitely playing that form the most

[@CAGExplains]

Honestly he had one of the best designs in all of Dragon Ball, to throw that away to become a Cell clone is crazy! Bro I hate to be the bearer of bad news... but he hasn't been animated... I doubt he's getting into BT4 💀

[@cashordeals3672]

​@@CAGExplains facts and also yeah I'm aware 😮‍💨 I hope in the new db anime that's coming out or hopefully some time in the future he cooks like saiyan saga or namek cook not whatever this arc was 💀

[@GeteMachine]

His first design was more creative than his transformation.

[@ripleyandweeds1288]

When Daima was announced it was so funny watching people on Twitter mald that we weren't getting a Moro anme saga. Like yall wanted an anime version of THIS???

[@JamaalDaGreatest]

A lot of Super's fans are content with mediocrity. Look at how much love Goku Black and Jiren get.

[@SuburbanTrash]

What? Super copying previous and better content? No way 😭 Super is hot shit

[@Nova-zk5gn]

The fact you used music from Jet Set Radio earned you a like. Regardless of whatever you had to say

[@UnwantedGhost1-anz25]

The only positive thing I'll give to Perfect Moro is caving Gohan's teeth in. Now he has one thing in common with his wife, Videl.

[@aeon-pingxpong4842]

36:10 I think that's a good thing. You cannot rush or force art, art has to come from the soul, and it has to be yours. I think Toriyama has been a better writer than Toyotarou for a while, and that's because Toyotarou is still just a dragon ball fanboy like the rest of us, he came in as a fan artist. I think that now he can come up with his own ideas, instead of simply adapting someone else's, dragon ball can have a not better, or worse, but new and different identity. Art has to be yours, you can't take someone else's stuff. Inspiration, yes, but your story has to be done your way. I think that now since Toyotarou isn't limited to someone else's script, he can go beyond those limits and turn dragon ball into something different than Toriyama's Dragon Ball Z. I think when Toyotarou steps out of the fanboy phase, and stops trying to write Toriyama's dragon ball, and starts writing a story that he can call his own, he can stop trying to branch off a bridge that was cut short too soon and start from a new foundation. Toyotarou's never gonna be Toriyama, but I think he can stop trying to make Dragon Ball Z with a new logo, and start making Dragon Ball Super with a new story.

[@frogurt6809]

out of all of the things i was expecting cage to say i never thought id hear "i then asked mikasa to step on me"😭

[@Alxsonic05]

We All know Moro Original Look was the Best! Just like Cell Before turning him More Humanoid Lookling... That Sucked!

[@BirdieSenpai]

1. Regurgitator of works was a great pun. 2. Thank you beyond measure for pronouncing Merus correctly. 3. Same on Mikasa. 4. My mental voice for Moro is Chris Tergliafera. (Avdol from JJBA, but sinister.) 5. This entire video highlights a great many of the reasons why I have little interest and even less hope that post-Toriyama Dragon Ball will come even close to measuring up to Toriyama's Dragon Ball. Oh, and the Granolla Arc in general... Also, holy crap, is that the same Jadusable who created the legendary BEN DROWNED series?? If so, having Jad and CAGE in a single video is honestly a monumental coming together of two living legends.

[@colinakersakers44]

I just think Dragonball should end. It’s just a series that exists to perpetuate its own existence at this point. It’s not a story with an ending in mind, it’s just something that needs to exist to keep the franchise alive and making money.

[@UnwantedGhost1-anz25]

What were people expecting the third wish to be before the actual reveal?

[@cosmicspidermanx9569]

Uub being able to fully power up goku and give him a susano goku mode was the dumbest thing I ever saw in Dragonball. It basically made me stop caring about the super manga.

[@hurricane7727]

If it was Dragonball MultiversesFanmanga Uub who was older and has Magic Training by Zen Buu it would work

[@lucidmind9676]

My main issue that I have with Goku Vs Moro is that there’s really no substance between them outside of “you’re evil so I gotta beat you” which is why to me it would’ve been better for Vegeta to get the win because one, he was the first to fight Moro at the beginning of the arc and got humiliated and throughout the arc you could sense a form of a grudge growing between Vegeta and Moro moreso than Goku and Moro. Hell Goku was more so just support for Vegeta in the first fight. Then the focus on Vegeta’s redemption with the namekians and a sorta role reversal with him criticizing Moro for things he himself did in his past. It’s like all that buildup just to resort back to having Goku be the victor was like what was the point, similar to Wrath of the Dragon (even tho Goku did have more to do with the plot compared to WoTD, he still wasn’t the focus of Moro like how Vegeta was) hell Moro was even focusing on Vegeta’s whereabouts while he was training moreso than tryna track Goku’s. I still love the arc but the ball was dropped on a lot of great moments

[@baked7423]

goku vs moro is the epitome of the arc's theme. Vegeta was another faucet of that. Vegeta's is just more blatant because they literally speak outloud but u have to connect the dots more for goku (and in general usually).

[@Sorain1]

Imagine that 'Moro begs for his life' scene but with Vegeta instead of Goku. There would be room for Vegeta to actually question 'Should I spare him?' in a meaningful way. He'd need to make a character revealing decision, and that's good drama right there.

[@baked7423]

@@Sorain1 the thing is Vegeta would never spare him tho because it goes against what he's learned, he has no reason to. Vegetas arc is also not about morality but acceptance and regret. So even if he mercilessly killed people in the past, thats innocent people and not villain such as moro. Vegeta has always been the type to take care of things without a second thought. Character moments are nice but stuff shouldnt be done just cuz it sounds interesting in a vacuum. The intriguing thing about this arc too is that Vegeta's always been an internal struggle and while goku is an external tho here it is swapped for vegeta dealing with his past coming back to haunt him and goku here learning the value in things outside his own selfish desires. But even then the whole point is goku chooses to selfishly try and spare moro for his own gain but also cuz he thinks good will come out of it. Which is consistent with past behavior by goku compared to vegeta

[@lucidmind9676]

@@baked7423my bad for the late response (got notifications off) but yeah I get what you’re saying because in a way, it was the same with Goku Vs Frieza on Namek. Vegeta had more of the connection to Frieza since Goku forgot his Saiyan heritage but Goku being the one to take Frieza down was more impactful for the series, which the fight with Moro kinda replicates (of course minus Vegeta having a deeper history with Moro compared to his history with Frieza) both were battles where Goku had to push past his limits and unlock or control a new form

[@yungblade7]

I remember there was a rumor that Buu was going to absorb Goku and Vegeta and become Vegito BUU, I would have loved to see them do that. It makes sense and would be completely crazy

[@ronaldelmore1834]

Valid good points. Good video

[@ShamayimPM]

if moro represents gokus mistakes then shouldnt goku know exactly how to handle moro

[@kaienglish271]

I literally think all the old references of Villans are done on purpose all the references are intentionally done for a reason. Goku gives Moro a Senzu for redemption like he did piccolo. Moro tries a Frieza after getting Goku energy on Namek but unlike what Goku did with Frieza and turn his back he watches Moro to see his decision obviously doesn’t work out and his hand breaks. Moro is the culmination of everything Goku has done or learned and we all know Goku’s strength is the strength of others becoming his own.

[@davigabriel783]

Honestly the goku senzu should never happen since it just shows how stagnant Goku character is

[@kaienglish271]

@@davigabriel783 It really doesn’t tho. You can’t compare Goku giving a senzu bean to Cell and say it’s the same mistake when it’s not. As I said giving the Senzu bean literally shows his development from what he’s learnt in the past .

[@anonymousxiii4780]

Moro had plenty of chances to be built different but all I found was a rehash of Cell. Like come on we had some notorious villains in GT and they were original Baby, The Shadow Dragons as well. Whoever cooked with the Shadow Dragons and Baby ideas needs to write the story. For me I wished that Moro had a unique ability that let him absorb God Ki and lock Goku & Vegeta out of using Godly transformation and techniques plus it would play into the factors of Gods vs Demons. So imagine Moro locking the divine ki out of them making them both use different methods to try and combat Moro. Also 26:05 YES LEONARD NIMOY BEING THE VOICE FOR MORO would’ve been sick! R.I.P. Absolute legend.

[@drizzziit1]

It sucks because it's super easy to write a better story than this. Instead of random who cares prisonners, Moro's third wish could have been something unnexpected, say to resurrect his long dead familly (He lived 10 000 000+ years) so that they, a clan of potentially just as dangerous warlocks and wizards, meet up for the attack on earth instead of random goons. This could have made Moro more relatable even if his familly members are evil by making the villain "have a heart" trough meeting his kind after millenias. They could have been killed by the kais too, or died in prison, or of old age, and with dialogue it would have made a much more memorable ressurected villain team than just... Goons. Idk just something i thought up in 3 minutes lol there may be a lot better things to do but god damn Toyotaro did not cook

[@NoName......]

I hope Toritaryo never listens to fans bro this is some hot ASS!

[@massmurdertron51]

​@@NoName......How enemies to fight are hot ass. They still would be evil. I mean demon king picclo-

[@ericmcmanus5179]

Hiw can Moro's energy be more evil than Buu's? Goku knows what evil buu's energy felt like. This is an enemy that is the living embodiment of evil itself.

[@hurricane7727]

I dunno. Janemba was Also the Embodiment of Sins.

[@bhuvaneshs.k638]

It's like author has no other ideas left anymore They should have made Vegeta as the main person to defeat him

[@charlesman8722]

I HATED that they made him cell with horns at the end

[@azimuddin1890]

I think OG Moro should’ve looked like his second form (the form before he absorbed OG 73), but with a similar color scheme of OG, and eyes of OG. So slightly buffer, OG color scheme, and OG eyes. I like the idea more instead of Perfect Moro.

[@Mauricio44]

Dude, thanks a lot for the reminder to subscribe - unironically, I was one of the returning 60k subs and for real didn't notice😅 Keep up the awesome videos🙌🏻

[@Sploggerr]

I like moro because he feels like the combination of every villain in dbz

[@CAGExplains]

Fair enough, just shows how different people's tastes are. The reason I don't like him is the reason you like him. (Vegeta still should've gotten the W though lol)

[@Sploggerr]

@@CAGExplains when will vegeta get a dub😭😭

[@idonthaveacreativename6504]

​@@SploggerrNeva my brother

[@GeteMachine]

I hate him because of that. Its not original.

[@superfarful]

Yes just like cell, cell had all the previous villains powers and abilities

[@SparklingJam]

23:13 even KZbin didn’t like you bro I got an ad instsntly

[@dmajorray6154]

FINALLY Some more heat from ya man's

[@CAGExplains]

Yessir! 😤🔥

[@devontetheone]

yea....unpopular opinion. granolah arc was better then the moro arc

[@Majin_kid_buu]

From cell to L

[@toxicdragon323]

On top of all the things you mentioned, I also didn't like how they changed Moro's appearance drastically after absorbing 7-3. I liked the goat faced version of Moro. He looked unique compared to the other villains. His magic also made him unique too. Aside from Babidi and a few random antagonists here and there from DB to DBS, there was practically no one who uses magic!

[@nora-yc6fi]

With them recycling Frieza as... well, Frieza and Cell as Moro I wonder when they'll recycle Buu Well, I say that but I'm doubting that Super will continue with the passing (Anyway gotta dunk on Zamidsu rq and call him a rehash of Ginyu and Baby)

[@Danosauruscrecks]

I think they already confirmed super well continue. It's just on a hiatus

[@Neuvillete4.6]

Uub is Canon so

[@NerdGohan]

*Gets hurt by lava* A few minutes ago, tanking punches that can individually destroy the universe

[@ZarrarTheLegendary]

I think Toyotarou needs to focus on his own one chapter mangas like Toriyama did so maybe it could improve his storytelling. If not hire a skilled/competent writer or editor. Victory Uchida, his current editor needs to go.

[@ZarrarTheLegendary]

I would like to add that back then Toriyama had feedback from his editor, Torishima which resulted in Cell having 3 forms we know and love.

[@rojaedavis8367]

​@@ZarrarTheLegendaryAnd keep in mind, 19 and 20(Dr Gero) were originally supposed to be the big bads of the arc, but Toriyama's editor said nah. Then came 17 and 18, but then Toriyama's editor said nah. Then came Cell, where they said nah to his first form and second form. Lol. I liked Toriyama as much as the next guy, but it's clear he needed his editors to push him and keep him in line for most of the series because when they finally let him off the leash for the Buu arc..... it's not bad.... but boy was it a mess. Toyotaro could stand to have a few editors of his own.

[@GeteMachine]

Nakatsuru needs to design the villains too. I hate the generic Cell clones.

[@GeteMachine]

@@ZarrarTheLegendary Thats what I think is what made Super so messy. The lack of editors cleaning up the ideas for more consistency and less recycling and to keep designs over bad ones. Zamasu, Goku Black and Jiren were examples of good antagonists. Morro just isn't and the Gods of Destruction other than Beerus, look mostly terrible.

[@MinhLe19303]

@@GeteMachine I'd say they were poorly executed as well, but I agree that without editors pushed Toriyama, DB manga wasn't as good as it is now.

[@CaptainNinny-ql5qn]

Man I always love watching the vids, always keeps me entertained. Also love hearing your opinions!

[@CAGExplains]

I appreciate the support bro 🔥

[@alatusedits]

The GOAT uploaded🗣🔥

[@CAGExplains]

It's about time I did as well! 🔥😂