Calculating the Best Odds for EVERY Shiny Pokemon (Again)

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CannedWolfMeat

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@Ocarinist_Drew
@Ocarinist_Drew 9 ай бұрын
It's worth mentioning that Shiny breeding in Gen 2 can be much faster if you use the Dodrio Tower in Pokemon Stadium 2, which allows you to play at 4x speed. You can also tell if an egg is shiny before it hatches by looking at it in the PC in PS2, as the egg itself will have a different color texture/model if it's Shiny.
@Cazooka
@Cazooka 8 ай бұрын
Damn this is the type of niche info i love to read. Never would have thought that there was a legitimate way to speed up an original pkmn game.
@jahmocha9542
@jahmocha9542 8 ай бұрын
Note that, if you wanna do this the 100% fully legit no hax way, you only unlock the Dotrio Tower if you beat EVERY BATTLE in EVERY STADIUM, in both Round 1 and Round 2. Which is nearly impossible to do with rental Pokemon, so you're gonna want to have a gen 2 cart and n64 transfer pack so you can enter real Pokemon in. And even then this is a difficult and annoying feat because Stadium 2 is full of bullshit.
@Ocarinist_Drew
@Ocarinist_Drew 8 ай бұрын
@@jahmocha9542 Yeah I'd say more time consuming than difficult. If you go into the game with a solid team of OU level Pokemon, it's not that hard, but this is in a generation with very poor quality of life. Like maxing out stat exp (the Gen 2 version of EV's) takes forever, TM's are single-use, etc. What's that? You want a Hidden Power Ice Raikou? Good luck achieving that without a GameShark. Gen 2 is also perhaps the least explored generation for RNG manipulation. I'll admit I shamelessly used Gameshark codes to skip the grind back in the day.
@sonicrunn3r895
@sonicrunn3r895 8 ай бұрын
The one big downside is that this means you either have to do it at normal speed (virtual console) or it's locked in Gen 1 and 2 (original cartridge, only one compatible with Pokemon Stadium 2)
@MegaMetal96
@MegaMetal96 8 ай бұрын
@@sonicrunn3r895ahoy, mateys 🪝 🏴‍☠️
@DangerXCV
@DangerXCV 9 ай бұрын
GF really put Gimmighoul in raids for a week and a half, kept it full odds, restricted the shiny chance to 5 star raids, and said good luck. Oh and not to mention that Gimmighoul's shiny is difficult to tell and raids don’t make the shiny sound or animation.
@JustinObi54
@JustinObi54 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I caught one, shiny gholdengo is very disappointing
@macewindu5195
@macewindu5195 4 ай бұрын
@@JustinObi54yeah I just couldn’t be bothered to try for it
@antoninocuffaro2804
@antoninocuffaro2804 3 ай бұрын
Actually it was above odds if I remember. Granted it was only like 50 above but still
@JustinObi54
@JustinObi54 3 ай бұрын
@@antoninocuffaro2804 oh, nice
@JustinObi54
@JustinObi54 3 ай бұрын
@@macewindu5195 Yeah I feel you
@leidenfrost3821
@leidenfrost3821 9 ай бұрын
Your tier list at the end was exactly what I'd hoped for when clicking on this video! Incredible dedication!
@grimms-vi1874
@grimms-vi1874 9 ай бұрын
Scarlet/Violet has a very specific encounter system. Unless things have been changed in a more recent patch, a trainer will have up to 15 pokemon spawn in their vicinity at a time in single player mode. In multiplayer, this number is dropped down to 5 pokemon per player, which can total up to 20 pokemon if a full group of 4 players are in the same Union Circle. However, that is not a particularly safe method to shiny hunt since encounters in multiplayer will despawn if the player that starts the encounter tries to run from it. There might also be issues caused by disconnects or crashes brought on by the data exchange in multiplayer modes or the general issues brought on by longer play sessions of S/V specifically.
@hitavi4965
@hitavi4965 8 ай бұрын
I love how all of the cards for each method is some kind of meme or something and then when you get to full odds it's just the sad music from gen V
@incandescence5547
@incandescence5547 9 ай бұрын
I was surprised that Celebi was the only truly full odds Pokemon, especially since that was the first shiny hunt I ever did as a kid
@YOM2_UB
@YOM2_UB 2 ай бұрын
Mew, Deoxys, and Manaphy are also true full odds, though Mew and Deoxys time-limited
@lindseymccartney9328
@lindseymccartney9328 6 ай бұрын
As someone who's done the manaphy and jirachi hunts, I wanted to add some info about the average lengths of those hunts. For the wishmaker jirachi, you can skip a cutscene and use a save corruption to avoid having to totally restart the save, cutting encounters down to just about 90 seconds per jirachi. At that pace, it would take 10896 minutes to get to the 1/7264 odds of that particular hunt (or 181.6 hours.) For manaphy, assuming you're hunting with 4 eggs on diamond/pearl, as is typically considered optimal, it's approx. a 20 minute reset per 4 eggs. This means you can reach odds in 40,960 minutes, or just over 682 hours. Manaphy could also be as slow as 163,840 minutes (2730 hours) if you're hunting with only one egg, as it's still a 20 minute cycle to get far into the game to trade.
@Eddiefrb
@Eddiefrb 8 ай бұрын
im working on a shiny living dex and this is the only youtube video i have ever had bookmarked before. extremely well researched, insightful and interesting. deserves way more views
@JamSandwich150
@JamSandwich150 9 ай бұрын
dexnav is actually boosted odds on every encounter, there's just an additional boost on the 50th and an even more boosted chance on the 100th, in fact there exists a calculator for it that tells you your precise odds given you scenario (research level, 50th/100th encounter and whether or not you have the shiny charm). I believe it is also worth noting that gen 6 radar completely resets your shiny chances when you catch your shiny patch shiny, even though the chain is still "active", additionally A LOT of the patch area in x and y are impossible to get ideal grass patches, significantly lowering your chances of reaching and successful 40 chain, with there being only a few notable areas where you can nicely use the radar (route 5, route 7, azure bays secret shore and the pokemon village to name a few)
@Pandacalifornia
@Pandacalifornia 9 ай бұрын
He mentions that is to get the best odds, I missed that too the first time
@perryjackson2715
@perryjackson2715 9 ай бұрын
I was very skeptical of the title/claim of this video, but the amount of time and research presented in this video is amazing. I really appreciate that you break down each game and each method of shiny hunting.
@Sh-qc1eh
@Sh-qc1eh 9 ай бұрын
A note on Ora’s dexnav. At a 999 encounter, + shiny charm, it has been calculated, tho varied, to be at a ball park of 1/180-1/200 ish chance. Which is ridiculously good. Your chains don’t really matter, except for the 50th and 100th, and the additional random 4% chance shouldn’t matter too much either. It takes about an hour and 10 mins on grass dexnav, to reach 100 encounters on average. Source: Am a shiny hunter myself, have caught more than 300 shinies in Oras alone via dexnav.
@cammyp4808
@cammyp4808 9 ай бұрын
Hey, I really enjoyed the video! I have one piece of information though about the shiny blitzle you get from Cyrano; I was able to battle him after maxing out the friendship of the entire top row of the coaches, so it should only be 4,800 Blueberry Points (as opposed to the 13,800 mentioned). Still not a walk in the park, but a lot less time consuming!
@cammy649
@cammy649 9 ай бұрын
Don't forget to mention that if you have a Japanese copy or gsc, the odd egg has a 50% chance of being shiny I believe. I know it's increased but I can't remember how much
@croma3375
@croma3375 9 ай бұрын
So you mean the Odd Egg received only in Crystal with the downloadable, event-only Egg Ticket, thus making it unavailable like any other Pokémon tied to an event item distribution. Plus it has never been obtainable in the japanese Crystal for Virtual Console. A nice trivia by the way, that's sadly lost in time though.
@matthew44able
@matthew44able 9 ай бұрын
This just goes to show how grateful we Scarlet/Violet players have to be with regards to how easy shinies are to obtain. Every other game in the past must have been a pain in the ass to get even ONE shiny, which pales in comparison to the HUNDREDS that you can get with practically ZERO effort.
@CannedWolfMeat
@CannedWolfMeat 9 ай бұрын
The classic clip of the guy freaking out over the shiny Ponyta is very understandable if you've ever tried hunting with full odds like that in gen 3-4: It once took me 12 whole days to find a shiny Slowpoke in Leaf Green.
@SomeSprites
@SomeSprites 9 ай бұрын
​@@CannedWolfMeatOld gen shinies are definitely hard to come by and I can attest to that, as I've been hunting for a shiny Oshawott for *3* years now. And not only that but recently I got 5 female Oshawotts in a row on one game (I'm hunting on 4 games at once), which is even rarer than a shiny 🥲
@stateofdisarrei
@stateofdisarrei 9 ай бұрын
I never tried shiny hunting in old games, but got quite a few with barely any effort in Arceus. Then I played Violet and got one in my first 10 minutes playing. I would just stumble upon them full odds. Then I actually hunted a whole team for the first time. Between those two games and Pokémon Go, I went from single digits to a little under 300 uniques species and 500 total with duplicates.
@Scoitol
@Scoitol 9 ай бұрын
​@@stateofdisarreiI literally played Arceus ans scarlet and encountered 0 shinys in both games
@AstralGaming300
@AstralGaming300 9 ай бұрын
​@@CannedWolfMeatdamn...
@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan
@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan 8 ай бұрын
6:50 important correction: you only need 10 coaches to get Cyrano to appear and battle you. So its definitely way more reasonable then all of them
@supersaiyankirby
@supersaiyankirby 9 ай бұрын
Think a good caveat to mention with excluding Go for its variable shiny rates is that legendary raids that arent shiny locked are always 1/20 so generally pretty accessible depending on raid availability/money for raid passes.
@ltjgambrose
@ltjgambrose 9 ай бұрын
One notable thing about the Ultra Space shinies is that a lot of the Pokemon they (seemingly nonsensically) chose are ones that have gender differences. Which is to say: if you want every form in the Seedot line you need five non-shiny Pokemon (Seedot, Nuzleaf M, Nuzleaf F, Shiftry M, Shiftry F) and their corresponding shinies. Since you can get shiny Nuzleaf quite easily in the Ultra Wormholes it means that the hardest form in that line is, weirdly, shiny Seedot. It's a huge blessing from the clever game developer who came up with that list, because similar Pokemon exist (like shiny Torchic, Combusken, and Blaziken has the same gender difference split but with terrible female odds) and these were equally annoying until Gen 7.
@RokkTheRock
@RokkTheRock 7 ай бұрын
yup yup. and torchics line only the second and third stage could be cutecharmed in the alola games for their female forms but with bdsp it allows torchic to also be cutecharm hunted now for its female form
@MikeSharpeWriter
@MikeSharpeWriter 9 ай бұрын
There's a not well known glitch with the Gen 3 games that can be abused for the Wishmaker/Channel Jirachi which can reduce the "reset" time down to a few minutes. Significant for Channel, due to the E4 Requirement. There's a guide by im a blisy on how it's done
@thetruegge5239
@thetruegge5239 8 ай бұрын
The XY radar is deceptively tricky to get to a full chain on; it’s super inconsistent. And with BDSP’s slow loading, you’re probably better just chaining in Platinum as much as possible, despite the nominally lower odds (Platinum radar hunting is also very well documented).
@ARDIZsq
@ARDIZsq 9 ай бұрын
Something to note about Masuda breeding between SWSH and SV: Getting eggs in SWSH is an active process, while in SV it's passive. So while getting eggs may be faster in SWSH, you can multitask while breeding in SV if that's important. Heck, breed something in SV and do another hunt in a different game while you wait for more eggs!
@zz9shepherd
@zz9shepherd 9 ай бұрын
This is a good point I got a few shiny stuffuls and a galarian farfetched accidentally running into them on the daycare route in sword and shield
@mrsuperheatran2794
@mrsuperheatran2794 9 ай бұрын
I wish there was a visual indicator for eggs in SV. With the NPCs they would have a special movement to tell you there's an egg ready. Here, you gotta wait and guess. It's hard to know the optimal time for collecting eggs and then hatching per 30 minute egg power.
@ARDIZsq
@ARDIZsq 9 ай бұрын
@@mrsuperheatran2794 I agree, but it's so trivial to just set up shop outside of a town with easy access to a cheap Egg Power food that I find it not that big of a deal. For timing, I usually just check it every minute or two. If you have eggs, you're not going to have enough to where the basket is already full, so you don't miss out on any. It's a bit boring, but hey, at least it's easier to do while watching videos or something.
@dookiegobbler9706
@dookiegobbler9706 8 ай бұрын
@@mrsuperheatran2794 For me with egg power 2 I usually get 6-10 eggs in around 3 mins, you can set a timer to periodically check the basket
@tintedpalette653
@tintedpalette653 8 ай бұрын
I think the ideal situation would’ve been allowing both options, the more active or more idle method, in one game. That way people can choose what works best for them in that hunt. Like have the passive method stay in picnics, but also have daycares for the active method.
@skeletorthebest7204
@skeletorthebest7204 9 ай бұрын
Correction: You only need to befriend 10 out of 23 coaches for the shiny Blitzle. I’ve gotten it with just 12.
@Thruxed
@Thruxed 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video it was well put together and as someone who does own all the games its nice to see what might be the best places for me to hunt some pokemon, I also really liked the PLA clip with the ponyta when I did that shiny ponyta quest I thought of that same video. Thanks again for putting in the time and effort it was entertaining and really helps.
@ShadowMimzy
@ShadowMimzy 9 ай бұрын
The amount of work and research into this was wonderful! I appreciate you putting all of this together, including ETAs for hunting per each method
@Firescizor
@Firescizor 8 ай бұрын
I just wanna say that the Pokémon Ranger music in this video is GIVING ME LIFE ❤️
@Missiletainn
@Missiletainn 8 ай бұрын
6:36 you don't need to do ALL 20, you only need to do 10, and that 10 includes the BB elite Four, meaning you can get 4 of them for free (or 6 now since kieran and carmine count too.)
@biscuitygudness
@biscuitygudness 7 ай бұрын
i'm shocked there aren't more comments on this video, this is an insanely valuable resource and an even more insane undertaking to calculate all this stuff! you dropped this king 👑
@IndigoSTN
@IndigoSTN 4 ай бұрын
Hello, I'm a know it all (a polite one) As someone going for a shiny living dex, this is a peak video and I wish someone had done it sooner (thankyou sm 😩) However I did notice two areas that I would change: the gen 8 fossils are very VERY fast so I wouldn't group them with the other full odds SRs. The other is the "free space shinies", all of them excluding Ponyta and Rapidash are extremely time consuming and honestly it's faster to just look for the shiny yourself. If you brought these up at some point sorry I have the attention span of a squirrel. Good day to you and thankyou again 💪
@amurmurmur609
@amurmurmur609 9 ай бұрын
Great video👍 One thing to consider with your calculation: Stadium 2’s Dodrio mode let you hatch eggs at 3x the normal gameplay speed.
@divabrooke23
@divabrooke23 9 ай бұрын
This video is phenomenal, like all your other works! Thank you for taking the time and research to do all of this!!! ❤
@johnpaulcross424
@johnpaulcross424 9 ай бұрын
I swear you’re one of the best new poketubers I’ve run into, hoping this blows up like your ribbon video!
@adrianpivotto1916
@adrianpivotto1916 9 ай бұрын
Although the gible and dratini lines are guaranteed shinies and so is haxorous. I feel like there is definitely a significant time investment into them. Clearing black tower or white tree takes some time and completing the dex for haxorous is also a big ask Amazing video though
@Game2590
@Game2590 9 ай бұрын
As someone who will be working on a shiny living Dex soon (I've almost finished my debut gen all forms regular dex), you are an absolute legend for creating that tier list. I'm going to be starting with the stuff that will be lost when bank shuts down just to make sure I have them then working on anything that's potentially quicker in older games and moving up the gens from there. It's going to be a very long term project, one I may never finish, but once I'm done with my other dex there won't be anything else to work on outside of adding new Pokémon to it when the next game comes out, i might as well go for a shiny one over time.
@crazydud2432
@crazydud2432 9 ай бұрын
The SWSH Masuda method is at odds in 6 hours? I put in 4+ hours a day for 3 week straight in highschool to get my shiny Mimikyu...
@riceland1
@riceland1 18 күн бұрын
this video absolutely GLAZES the pokémon ranger OST, and i’m absolutely loving it
@SurrealKeenan
@SurrealKeenan 8 ай бұрын
I can understand why you didn't do this, but I'd be interested in the times when factoring in the difficulty of finding the specific pokemon in the method you're using. It will take an average of 12 minutes to find ANY shiny pokemon in an LA mass outbreak, but if you're hunting for a specific pokemon, it would take much longer to find the outbreak that you want. It takes an average of 7 minutes to find an ultra space pokemon, but it would take an average of 140 minutes to find abomasnow. I would argue that it's much better to SOS chain for pokemon like pichu, gastly, and eevee for this reason.
@CannedWolfMeat
@CannedWolfMeat 8 ай бұрын
Maybe at some point in the future if I can find a sure-fire way to work out all of the variables involved, but yes that would take an absurd amount of work to figure out and I don't envy anyone else who decides they want to have a go at it first lmao
@RedBroski
@RedBroski 9 ай бұрын
The nostalgia of playing Pokemon Ranger in the background of this video was a nice touch, I almost never hear Ranger music in Pokemon vids
@SirToastyToes
@SirToastyToes 9 ай бұрын
ummmm actually shiny locks have existed since colosseum not xd gale of darkness (great video btw :) ) I would like to mention Poke Radar is faster than getting encounters once you max your odds, you never have to step into the grass once you're at 40 until you see the shiny grass, so you can get 4 "encounters" every 50 steps at max odds
@Kypsus
@Kypsus 9 ай бұрын
Holy crap it’s Toasty! :0 I love your videos 😂
@galenthomas7322
@galenthomas7322 8 ай бұрын
It is possible to get every pokemon shiny in colosseum
@SirToastyToes
@SirToastyToes 8 ай бұрын
@@galenthomas7322 Not the Ho-Oh, Plusle, or starter Umbreon/Espeon
@galenthomas7322
@galenthomas7322 8 ай бұрын
@SirToastyToes ahh that makes sense. I forgot about Plusle and Ho-oh existing. I could've sworn I saw a shiny Umbreon but I could be wrong. I've never actually played Colo unfortunately, still trying to find it 😅
@chunga689
@chunga689 9 ай бұрын
6:44 You don't have to friend em all, I got him available after getting gold border on just the gym leaders
@ShinyDracozolt
@ShinyDracozolt 9 ай бұрын
Very well researched video! ...Also this is making me realize that lucking into the damn Shiny Zygarde I have really is even more of a miracle than it appears. Truly superb LMAO
@devinloew7681
@devinloew7681 3 ай бұрын
This is a perfect video. No filler, some humor, and very well-informed. Great job!
@RomeoHearts
@RomeoHearts 8 ай бұрын
This video is so well put together!! Wonderful job!!
@alexnewby2004
@alexnewby2004 8 ай бұрын
Fun fact, in x and y there was a special form of floette that was never actually given out. However it still has a shiny form weirdly enough, meaning it was probably intended to be some kind of in game event
@VVizard_G6
@VVizard_G6 9 ай бұрын
I'm laying in my bed listening to this, SOS hunting drampa... my chain is probably in the 300's and my ds has been awake for like 4 days now...
@chasecarlson4900
@chasecarlson4900 9 ай бұрын
I weirdly struggle to find shinies in the dynamax lair; I can spend hours trying and get nothing.
@damlatorun6756
@damlatorun6756 9 ай бұрын
There’s an obscure glitch in gen 4 that involves the cute charm ability and your secret id (the one you can’t see unless you use third-party apps) I don’t remember how it works exactly but if your secret id is a specific number and you have a pokemon with the cute charm ability in your party, you were basically guaranteed to encounter a shiny every time
@keving9770
@keving9770 9 ай бұрын
By "every time" you mean about 20%, but yeah that one's really good.
@kiut9933
@kiut9933 9 ай бұрын
I think glitches aren't taken into account because you can shiny hunt both Darkrai and Shaymin using the void glitch in DP but they ranked them as event only
@crazydud2432
@crazydud2432 9 ай бұрын
I havent finished the video so forgive if this has been addressed but the gen 4 mythicals that are locked behind events are still obtainable through the void glitch so they can be shiny hunted as normal without the limited event items to reach them. no rng manipulation since you are only using glitches to reach them, not hunt them.
@ericbrooms
@ericbrooms 8 ай бұрын
If you combine the dual slot mode (dongle method) of the gen 4 games and the pokeradar, its actually possible for several other pokemon not in bdsp to be hunted at a 1/200 rate (lotad, seedot, mawile, sableye, lunatone and solrok should be included in the tier with poochyena)
@spunkymcmonkey5972
@spunkymcmonkey5972 8 ай бұрын
I know croagunk is also a pokemon that can be chained in platinum route 212 and not dp/bdsp
@applechoco483
@applechoco483 9 ай бұрын
22:36 It never really "shut down" per se, they just took away the ability to buy anything new! As long as you've bought Crystal at some point beforehand, it'll still be in your purchase history, meaning you can redownload the game at any time. The game server shutdown FAQ also clarified that the eShop won't be affected, so that won't be a problem either (considering the Wii Shop is also like this, it should be this way for a few years at the very minimum).
@PlushiePoogle
@PlushiePoogle 8 ай бұрын
I really miss the old odds. It was so exciting to find a shiny and people would FREAK THE HECK OUT and brag to all their friends. Now, I've literally heard people complain TEN MINUTES into FIRST their sandwich: "Where the heck is the shiny??" Or sigh "Noooo not that one again.. I wanted (insert other species of Pokémon here)." I miss the excitement.
@bucktheguyy
@bucktheguyy 2 ай бұрын
womp womp
@beetlebottle
@beetlebottle Ай бұрын
and I'm over here still not having encountered a shiny in any game. I've been playing since emerald. I did encounter one shiny I chained in Y, but that doesn't count to me since I sought it out. It was a skiddo that I traded away to a friend. I feel like if I did encounter one now though, it'll feel a bit cheap since the odds have been raised.
@thefinalskarm1754
@thefinalskarm1754 9 ай бұрын
Some paradox things, the main crystal cave will only spawn Iron Valliants with a high enough fairy/fighting boost in Violet, The same is true for Ghost for Flutter Mane, with it in daylight forcing all the non shiny ones to vanish (you have to check time out of area zero then go in), while a pokemon like Roaring Moon in Scarlet has an issue that it shares typings with both the Deino Line (both types) or Sneasel line (on dark) in it's cave, though I cannot confirm this as it's been a while, I believe Sabeleyes may also spawn in the side cave (the one with the crop circle). off topic but shoutouts to the person who's probably gotten every ribbon on a gen 3 shadow quilava meaning they carried that things ass through all of the battle facilities as a quilava (probably impossible unironically) all to get the one additional ribbon in PLA while allowing not conflicting with the legal pokemon in BDSP for the H-Typh
@anonanonymous9670
@anonanonymous9670 9 ай бұрын
Roaring Moon & Iron Valiant can also spawn in the underground Area Zero (the area with the Last Area Zero station) as of the Teal Mask update It was most likely a bug since Roaring Moon & Iron Valiant's dex images show them being in the underground Area Zero and not just that one singular cave
@dattromboneguy
@dattromboneguy 3 ай бұрын
In S/V there's a little talked about egg method called Triple Masuda Method... you have 3 Ditto and 3 mons of your choice in your party. It gives you the benefit of either having 3 different mons at once or 3 of the same Pokémon, at the cost of not being able to do Destiny Knoy shenanigans. Its a great method if you just want a specific shiny (like the Gen 9 starters) but don't care if they have specific stats or IV's, like when you're collecting a shiny living dex. It doesn't actually increase shiny odds, but collecting eggs with Egg Power 2 is DRAMATICALLY faster. I got roughly 60 eggs per sandwiches (aka 120 eggs an hour) I got VERY lucky in my hunt, but I did Triple Masuda with 1 Sprigittito, 1 Quaxly, 1 Fuecoco, and 3 foreign Dittos, and hatched one of each shiny within 70 eggs... both batches took me a total of 2 hours (30 mins collecting, 30 mins hatching, twice) and I got Sprigittito on #17, Fuecoco on #42, and then Quaxly on #65
@clownfishbox
@clownfishbox 8 ай бұрын
You can still hunt ash hat pikachu, all you have to do is scan a qr code which works for everyone and never expires.
@donnovanash2334
@donnovanash2334 9 ай бұрын
Radar hunting is actually pretty good once you adjust, any decent shake on a tile 4 squares away will increase your chain, and you just have to pay attention to squares in between you and it for ANY shake, and avoid them, once you get to 60, or the music changes(not to normal rout music), you get the max odds, you made a mistake, the odds are 0.5% (1 in 200) per square that rolled the Pokémon you are chaining, if at any point all squares that roll a Pokémon are not squares with grass/flowers, then your chain ends(if all squares that roll your Pokémon are not grass, but a square that isn’t your Pokémon is grass, it does not end your chain), at any point you can reroll grass without ending your chain, if you hop on your skates it ends your chain, and if all squares that rolled Pokémon go off screen, it ends your chain,(a square that rolls a Pokémon and is not a grass square still counts), and shiny grass will sparkle and make a chime
@donnovanash2334
@donnovanash2334 9 ай бұрын
Nvm I actually made a mistake, the chain max is 40, I said 60, because that was the amount of damaging moves I had on my lead mon
@acedragon543
@acedragon543 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the well done tier list! I saw a similar video of "ranking the difficulty of every shiny pokemon" and it lazily threw every breedable pokemon into the east tier. Even got hostile when i pointed it out. Well done!
@zawezplays
@zawezplays 9 ай бұрын
For the event only Pokémon, there are ways to obtain shiny deoxys, darkrai, genesect, meltan, melmetal, via Pokémon go. Deoxys, darkrai and genesect can be obtained via raids with a 1/20 chance and meltan had 1/125 shiny odds.
@Azurolu
@Azurolu 9 ай бұрын
Great video! I just wanted to point out some small mistakes in your list: 6 of the gen 7 Pokémon (all except Wimpod and Goliosopod) you've put in the Masuda Method tier in your 2nd list can be SOS Chained. You probably already knew since some are in the SOS Chain tier in your 1st list. There's also Mudbray and Lycanroc in the 1st list which belong in the SOS Chain tier. The lists are very helpful, thank you for making them!
@U1TR4F0RCE
@U1TR4F0RCE 6 ай бұрын
One thing for bdsp and the original gen 4 games is both have known rng manipulations that can significantly change the odds. With diamond and pearl also having Arbitrary code/scripting execution allowing for a shiny manaphy similar to the 8F Mew.
@ZorryCafe
@ZorryCafe 9 ай бұрын
wow, really fun vid :D merry christmas!!
@br41nc3ll
@br41nc3ll 8 ай бұрын
1:37 "I won't use percentages" Proceeds to use percentages. Im thinking he just didn't want to remake those parts, but the inconsistency was odd.
@nathanswan54
@nathanswan54 8 ай бұрын
I think this video is just fantastic. You deserve a gazillion dollars for making it. Thank you ❤
@dangdiggity9916
@dangdiggity9916 9 ай бұрын
im surprised you didnt touch on spinda. assuming it would be in the excluded list as its really not different pokemons its just like... 1 billion forms of 1 pokemon, but its similar enough to something like vivillion except its ~4.3 billion and not double digits.
@CannedWolfMeat
@CannedWolfMeat 9 ай бұрын
I actually did cover Spinda in the last version of this video! I had a whole section at the end talking about really niche cases for rare shinies such as Spinda, or the wild Level 1 Gyarados, but it was mostly just to prove that Authentic Sinistea (which at the time was often claimed in a lot of videos as "the rarest shiny") wasn't actually that rare if you want to get really technical about it. But since they fixed forms spawing in outbreaks, Authentic Sinistea is no rarer than any other pokemon in Gen 9, so I decided to leave that part out in favour of the new segment comparing the time it takes to hunt using each method.
@anonanonymous9670
@anonanonymous9670 9 ай бұрын
Are they really even considered forms? It's just a different pattern and each game treats them as the same exact species anyways
@CannedWolfMeat
@CannedWolfMeat 9 ай бұрын
@@anonanonymous9670 yep, some forms are just entirely cosmetic like that (Flabebe, Alcremie, Minior, etc)
@Irkaylub
@Irkaylub 2 ай бұрын
I did not know the encounter sandwich type affected the daily outbreaks at all, very useful information
@locomokuu2471
@locomokuu2471 9 ай бұрын
About that shiny blitzle from the blueberry academy! I was able to unlock the Cyrano battle after about 40 coach summons, with 9 of them befriended. Still a hefty BP fee, but it goes by *fast* if you're an among us task master
@EliteLoserZR
@EliteLoserZR 9 ай бұрын
I remembered spending YEARS soft resetting Pokemon Crystal on the 3ds getting a shiny Celebi and catching it was so satisfying.... then I got another one a few days after from that one Pokemon Go event. Felt like Celebi did time travel shenanigans to mock me irl by having me spend years to catch one to immediately just spend a few days after that momentous accomplishment to catch another one.
@Pokemichael
@Pokemichael 3 ай бұрын
Great video! As someone who has been getting into shiny hunting lately, this is a great resource. Although you made two small errors. For Cyrano to show up, you only need to trade with 10 coaches not all of the others. Also when talking about shiny locks, you forgot about type null and silvally. While silvally did get an event at one point, to this day, type null stands as the only non legendary Pokémon whose shiny has never been obtainable through any circumstance, even an event.
@CannedWolfMeat
@CannedWolfMeat 3 ай бұрын
You can in fact shiny hunt the Type Null they give you in both Sun/Moon and Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon - they only decided to shiny lock the one in Galar for whatever reason.
@Chlora_
@Chlora_ 8 ай бұрын
You forgot the cute charm glitch in HGSS, easily the best hunting method in the entire series
@env3lop
@env3lop 9 ай бұрын
I find the most optimal way to hatch eggs in scarlet and violet is to just breed a box or two of eggs before you start to hatch them. Then I go to the city with the streamer gym leader and go in the main circle to hatch them all
@almightyshoe02
@almightyshoe02 6 ай бұрын
Its worth noting that Ash Hat Pikachu has actually been available shiny through QR distribution in Sun&Moon in which you can soft reset for it at the 1/4096 rate. Its shiny does not appear different, but has shiny sparkles and is acknowledged as such in things such as home or the pokeball+
@conejonegro957
@conejonegro957 9 ай бұрын
i think the rarest shiny right now that you can get on switch is alolan raichu, cuz the only way you can get it is trough dynamax adventures but is not garantee it will be on the run... again, only for switch
@noahplowman
@noahplowman 9 ай бұрын
Giimighoul could be shiny from a event
@keving9770
@keving9770 9 ай бұрын
Chest form shiny is available from an event, not roaming form shiny.
@jamjam1090
@jamjam1090 9 ай бұрын
Great video! Shouldn’t haxorus on the last tier list be in the free space though or did I skip something explaining why it isn’t there lol
@anonanonymous9670
@anonanonymous9670 9 ай бұрын
You still need to see every single Pokemon in the Unovan dex to encounter it
@DefectiveLotus
@DefectiveLotus 9 ай бұрын
I love my VC Shiny Celebi. She will forever be one of the ultimate crowns of my Pokemon. I wanted her mostly because of my love of the Mystery Dungeon series!
@KazeBlack
@KazeBlack 8 ай бұрын
The biggest slog of a hunt I did was the Entei/Raikou roaming hunt in HG/SS as part of my Shinylocke. And I did it the good old fashioned way on cartridge without having the luxury of speeding through the cutscene or save states from emulating the game. It took me 6 minutes per attempt on average (ranging from 2 minutes to about 20) and I got quite lucky, after exactly 1000 encounters I managed to get myself a Shiny Entei and I'm glad I had that one save once it spawned because in my first catching attempt my Crobat crit it to death. My heart definitely skipped a beat on that one. The first Shiny I got in SV was a Scatterbug that I encountered full odds before even getting to Mesagoza. I was so happy and quite surprised that it evolved into a Fancy Pattern. I wish we still had the other Vivillon forms, they could have reworked the mechanic to have it evolve into a different pattern depending on where you evolve it in the overworld, but I definitely take Fancy Pattern as the consolation prize.
@BleddynsStudio
@BleddynsStudio 2 ай бұрын
Just a quick note for Hordes in Gen 6: while you do encounter 5 pokemon at once, the odds of a shiny are not increased by 5x (5/4096) because each shiny is rolled individually of one another. Under this logic, a theoretical 4096 pokemon horde raid would produce a 4096/4096, or 100% chance of a shiny, which is not true, as each and every one individually has the chance to not be shiny.
@ra1chusparks
@ra1chusparks 9 ай бұрын
how does this vid only have 5k views?? it's so well made!!!
@BeIlG
@BeIlG 9 ай бұрын
the odd egg in crystal took me between 20-30 min straight on the bike. it takes forever
@imerebus
@imerebus 9 ай бұрын
I haven’t finished the video but I find sv’s shiny hunting method the easiest for a casual like myself
@H8MyM8Botbi
@H8MyM8Botbi 2 ай бұрын
the individual odds can be split up into 3 categories arceus, shaymin and darkrai (bdsp) can just be put in soft reset without charm if u hunt them in gen4 with the glitches theyre basically just 1/8192 (shiny odds without charme before gen6) and in that same category go mew, deoxys and celebi (mew and deoxys hunting with glitches to obtain them otherwise there is no way to find a non shinylocked version) and manaphy and jirachi are special but take around the same amount of time with fully optimised hunting theres a yt tutorial where someone shows how to average 30 eggs/ hour for manaphy and if u do the file coruption method for jirachi your average reset time is 2min which is 30/ hour as well the odds are 1/8192 for both of them the only difference is that the manaphy hunt requires way more brain power and cant really be done mindlessly
@mangoschmooves
@mangoschmooves 7 ай бұрын
This was a very interesting video. Nice job!
@user-lt9co9ox5e
@user-lt9co9ox5e 8 ай бұрын
Note in regards to the encounter speed for Dynamax Adventures: there are a lot of variables that can influence the rate at which you complete adventures. Turning off battle animations can shave a good 2-3 minutes off your time, though this only works in single player; most prominently though, the legendary at the end can really drive your time up and down. For comparison, Kartana, which is one of the easier ones, I was able to consistently defeat every 8-10 minutes, whereas Zygarde, widely regarded to be the most difficult encounter in adventures, took me roughly 15-18 minutes. Because of this, I'd say that, averaging different encounters, as well as accounting for animations and the downtime between ending and starting an adventure, you'll get to about 12 minutes per check, which puts you at 1200 minutes to hit odds.
@BeIlG
@BeIlG 9 ай бұрын
for me. getting a fishing shiny in gen 6 was by far the quickest. 2nd to ultra space, the mesuda in gen 7.
@flandulce
@flandulce 9 ай бұрын
Dex nav is 100% worth in on mons you can horde hunt. It’s quick to reach a 999 search level and after that, you have about the same chance at finding a shiny as masuda without charm.
@jackchildree1491
@jackchildree1491 8 ай бұрын
What a fantastic video dude. Great work
@jonolivier9126
@jonolivier9126 Ай бұрын
Technically Shaymin and Darkrai (and Arceus, but that matters quite a bit less nowadays) can be encountered in Gen 4 even without their events using the tweaking glitch and are huntable at the 1 in 8192 odds, so basically the only requirement is that the player has the bike, some luck, and a lot of patience. I'm pretty sure the glitch did also survive into pre day one patch BDSP for what that's worth, but I'm not certain. Mew and Deoxys are also doable in Emerald/FRLG with another glitch called glitzer popping, I haven't seen it done in like 4 years so I don't remember how to do it or how it works but I remember it's a thing that can be done to somehow either access their areas or brute force yourself into the encounter, which I'm relatively sure also has a way to encounter Jirachi but again I haven't seen the process for half a decade so idk. Additionally, the shiny rates of GSC's Odd Egg vary depending on the version, as in the language release, not between the 3 themselves. The odds you listed for it are the international release, but the odds in the Japanese release range from I believe 35% to as high as 50% depending on the species. So should someone be wanting a shiny that's available through the Odd Egg, they should absolutely be doing it through a Japanese cart if they happen to have one.
@kykipz
@kykipz 9 ай бұрын
Just found you! Subbed and excited to watch you grow. Very informative and a dash of memes~ wonderful☆
@randomperson1997
@randomperson1997 8 ай бұрын
Small correction! Shiny locks were first implemented in Colosseum with non shadow Pokémon. So your Eevee, Umbreon, and Duking’s Plusle were impossible to shiny hunt
@Nelsito99
@Nelsito99 8 ай бұрын
20:10 note that is sv it was changed to work in picnics but the egg production rate is time based and not step based but can be spead up by using a egg power sandwich (i highly recommend the great peanut butter sandwich which only needs peanut butter, butter and banana all easy to get ingredients) ot does however only last for 30 min and the basket can hold a max of 10 at a time so its best to claim them every now and again (i recommend evert 3 ish mins when using the sandwich i recommend) but multiple mon can be Masada-ed wt the same time just make sure that they are either all the same gender or are all different egg groups or they might breed with mon other than the ditto (also if you are doing reginal forms the mon with the regional form needs to hold an everstone and if you are doing multiple at the same time ditto needs to hold an destiny knot and all others need to hold an everstone even if they dont have a regional form [or vise versa if you are using ditto for nature all other mon need to hold a destiny knot])
@stephiixoxo4512
@stephiixoxo4512 9 ай бұрын
Great video 👍🏻
@Link1506
@Link1506 9 ай бұрын
great and detailed video on shiny hunting! About sandwitch hunts in pokemon scarlet/violet: for a lot of pokemon it's a lot faster to hunt them outside of outbreaks, since picnics take time and the 15 pokemon don't always spawn instantly. So if you can guarantee their spawns with the right sandwich, you can cycle through pokemon a lot faster by just driving around. Especially if they spawn in groups of 5.
@Nelsito99
@Nelsito99 8 ай бұрын
27:15 an tip for doing sos hunts it to see if the pokemon can have their ability changed to harvest and can be given a leppa berry this will make it so that mon will never run out of pp (for Mimikyu have it use the move mimic one the move recycle [basically harvest as a move] as its ability cannot be changed)
@HeyLookItsFNaFb
@HeyLookItsFNaFb 8 ай бұрын
I still find it comical that they never added a Shiny model for Partner Cap Pikachu in Gen 8 or 9, despite being able to send it to those games. It also doesn't have a proper Shiny render in HOME, which is even funnier
@fredthered98
@fredthered98 9 ай бұрын
Doesnt the friend safari in x and y have increased odds?
@reznorweist6267
@reznorweist6267 8 ай бұрын
Note that this list also assumes you are playing without using any unintended exploits, you can still to this day hunt for shaymin Darkrai and Arceus through an in game exploit known as tweaking
@lucideirune1635
@lucideirune1635 8 ай бұрын
You should have a special section for Pokemon Go for raids or research since Genesect and Mew outside of Japan along with Melton and Melmetal are Go exclusive. It is speculated that Victini, Keldeo, and Meloetta will be released next year for Unova Tour which would also make these Go exclusives.
@theaccount27
@theaccount27 8 ай бұрын
You can get all 4 ‘event’ Pokémon legitimately: Using glitzer popping to get decoys and mew and thus shiny hunt them in gen 3 Using the void in Diamond and Pearl to get Darkrai and Shaymin and thus shiny hunt them in gen 4
@DefaultFonts
@DefaultFonts 8 ай бұрын
The ultrawormhole method of shiny hunting you described is actually inaccurate. You can’t soft reset to reroll for shinies once you’ve entered a wormhole. The Pokémon that appears will always be the same as the first time you encountered it. This DOES mean that if you enter a wormhole and save before encountering a shiny Pokémon, if you happen to kill that Pokémon you CAN soft reset your game and it will still be there.
@rosebluelaurarity286
@rosebluelaurarity286 8 ай бұрын
the pokemon ranger music is very much appreciated
@waltermelon4824
@waltermelon4824 2 ай бұрын
that ponyta reaction is so iconic lmao
@RokkTheRock
@RokkTheRock 7 ай бұрын
11:50 while what non legendary pokemon you face is randomized you can save specific den layouts to hunt for certain pokemon if you want with the power of soft resetting
@QuentinCarrero
@QuentinCarrero 9 ай бұрын
Great video, but I'd just like to raise an objection to the tiering of some pokemon, specifically all the ones in the gen 2 breeding section that can only be accomplished through the Gyarados/Ditto glitch. Since those are attainable only by going pretty far outside of the confines of what's considered normal gameplay, I don't think those should be counted as recognized shiny hunting methods for the same reason that the gen 4 cute charm method is disallowed.
@arachmusmarsh3285
@arachmusmarsh3285 9 ай бұрын
It’s not a glitch though. It’s just using older game mechanics to your advantage. Nothing in it is outside the bounds of normal gameplay. Trading and using specific Pokémon when encountering ditto to make sure it has those stats are both completely legit.
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