Everything LOST without Pokémon Bank

UPDATED VIDEO: • Everything STILL Stuck...
I go over everything (to my knowledge) that completionists will no longer be able to obtain if Pokémon Bank ever shuts down.
DMs are open on Twitter: / daviidgeese
Guide to doing the DNS exploit:
/ dns_gen_iv_v_events_li...
List of Pokémon coming back in Scarlet & Violet DLC:
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#pokemon #pokémon #nintendo #nintendoswitch #nintendo3ds

[@davidgeese]

UPDATED VIDEO IS OUT NOW: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6qskmxsZpaokM0

[@kephalai]

great timing i was just about to do this :D thank you

[@MikeDaddyMCS]

The philosophy used to be that every Pokémon is someone’s favorite and now they are just abandoning all of the old Pokémon and their fans

[@radaf4429]

Good thing there are like a bunch of games you can play with those Pokémon in them. Like at least 7 gens worth

[@gryphyntaylor9800]

@@radaf4429ah yes the games that they have completely abandoned all support for and unless you already have them you cannot legally purchase new, and used prices are insane. The only way you can enter a battle with most of these mons currently if you don’t already own the games without hacking is through showdown which as a 3rd party ambiguously legal simulation which Nintendo is blissfully ignoring currently but should it start affecting their bottom line would be copyright struck into oblivion They simply don’t care anymore and every new switch era game continues to be a massive downgrade

[@justaperson4656]

​@@radaf4429 yeah but going through an entire game, building an attachment to not just the species but that specific pokemon, then having to abandon it entirely? That hurts. I've done it a hundred times over in FRLG and RSE

[@radaf4429]

@justaperson4656 No, you don't have to abandon it, I have like 50 Pokémon in my Soul Silver cart because I love gen 4s post game and Pokémon Battle Revolution and it's better than anything post gen 5. Nothing saying you need to bring it all up, in fact it's a dumb idea. You're practically abandoning your Pokémon that way.

[@justaperson4656]

@@radaf4429 You misunderstood what I meant by abandoning. I want my Pokémon to come with me, to experience trials and new experiences with me. I move on to new times and new regions, but my Pokémon are stuck in the past. It hurts man

[@lemongrab1423]

the fact that a multi-billion dollar company doesnt constantly have readily available ways to GET all of its pokemon is astounding

[@GameGodZERO]

it's so they can sell you a new game/dlc with it available; or gate it behind limited time events

[@Kamiyouni]

Ikr I'm tired of having to do this just let us get any and all Pokémon at any time. People hack them anyways.

[@blackosprey2219]

It's been an issue since gen 3. Before the Gamecube titles and FRLG a huge number of mons were simply impossible to obtain.

[@Pufflizard]

Literally the only game where you can get all the Pokemon programmed into a single game with just that game is Legends. Although that hardly counts when there's only 242 Pokemon programmed within it.

[@icecontrol1]

Let's see genius which company has a game series where you can keep over 1000+ mons between games? Some of you guys lack brains and this shows it, even if they have the amount of money keeping everything is just not feasible, there is a reason why all game devs said they eventually expected the Dex cut to happen

[@AzazelGrimshadow]

I have over 1000 Pokemon dating back to the original Ruby and Sapphire. I had a full on panic attack when they said Bank would be closing and I was forced to buy a home subscription just to transfer them. My oldest Pokemon I own is a Blaziken and i got it on my birthday. March 19, 2003. It was also the same day as the release. My Blaziken is 20 YEARS OLD. 💀

[@lillygauthier7794]

Don't forget to buy your Blaziken a drink when he turns 21 if you're American!

[@blue30827]

im the same age as your blaziken 😭

[@MoranPrimus]

Battle Master Blaziken status.

[@OneClick2go]

​@blue30827 same here what are we doing here ?

[@matejmatuska6700]

@@blue30827 I 1 year older :D

[@jakewantscake]

Disclaimer: the DNS hack thing does not give you Victini in Black and White 2. You need the originals

[@Lilithlily5]

Can't you get the Liberty Pass from that though, which then allows you to go to the island to catch it? Or was that only in BW1?

[@kirstykristen9200]

​@@Lilithlily5 Liberty Pass was B1W1 exclusive :)

[@donovangreene2348]

Also, I don't think you can get genesect in b1w1. I only got it doing the DNS in b2w2.

[@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan]

The Library Pass Victini is exclusive, but not all event Victini. So you can still get one, just not gonna be as special

[@sickgnarsty_]

Jokes on you, I CFW’d a 3ds

[@jordandaigle6227]

Dont forget about ribbon hunters getting screwed over as well

[@Lucifronz]

The very day the eShop closure was announced for the 3DS, I put my migration hunts into overdrive. Grabbed shinies I couldn't grab otherwise, like Celebi, ribbons I wanted on them and whatever else. Small regret not waiting to migrate Celebi until after I got a few more ribbons, but whatever, it's only a few Gen 7 ones and I got the champion ribbon I wanted on her. But yeah, if you want to make a ribbon master Pokemon starting with Colosseum or any early game, now is the time to do so. The Earth and National ribbons are easy to get and there are a ton of Pokemon to choose from in Colo/XD to hunt ribbons on. If you're nuts you can shiny hunt them in Colosseum, too, but not XD. Only non-shadows can be shiny in that game and they don't get the National ribbon.

[@TheLegacyDan]

This. I have a couple I'm trying to get ribbons on and this'll make things next to impossible

[@TaIathar]

Based on the "Days until expiration" tag on Pokemon Bank, we have about 5~8 years until it closes. Now that you know the time-frame, you can rest easy. Get hunting folks.

[@coreybroussard5264]

So should they just keep it open forever? At what point should they shut it down? When everyone stops crying?

[@jordandaigle6227]

@@coreybroussard5264 It's the fact that most other companies keep their Internet services open many more years than Nintendo does. I'm pretty sure ps2 still had it after the Wii shut down. It's just disappointing that they always shut it down so soon by comparison. Like the choice actively loses them money as it stops people from buying their product so it isn't even a good practice.

[@littledefender3281]

FYI there is no way to get Spinda into home without bank. As BDSP spindas can't be transferred due to the way ILCA programmed them, the spot patterns change when transferred.

[@GoobbueXIV]

Can't transfer from GO either, since that game only has 9 Spinda forms and I guess they didn't want a bunch of duplicate patterns in Home

[@Dani-Claw]

Ahh multi billion dollar corporations never cease to amaze me 🙃

[@JustinObi54]

TF!!??, what kind of incompetence is this?

[@phillnyetheplaylistguy3759]

I sure do love gamefreaks decision making when it comes to giving out their ip 🙃

[@jakemcgoldrick3552]

@@GoobbueXIVIt’s actually because the patterns in GO are custom made and don’t actually exist in the main series

[@fractalisomega9517]

SV is also doing a huge movepool reset for everything which can destroy the value of many old event pokemon with unique moves

[@SubjectSigma77]

I’ve been holding onto my shiny legendary beasts with entire unique movesets on home because of that. I’m bummed cause I’ve had them since gen 4 and I don’t think I can use them again unless I don’t mind them losing those moves

[@TheRedSmarty]

The movesets are not lost, they're just invisible while the Pokémon is visiting BDSP or later. Pokémon HOME has the option to show a Pokémon's data as it appears in places it has visited, including Pokémon Bank, so the moveset will still appear in that view. If the Pokémon is in SwSh, they can also be sent there to see the moveset, but if the moveset is changed in SwSh, it'll change in the Bank view as well.

[@Nour386589]

Me crying over my Draco meteor jirachi

[@TerribleTerribleAd]

@@TheRedSmarty I unfortunately have heard reports of those appearing to get wiped. It's probably fine but I'm not sure I myself would want to risk it.

[@novothehedgehog8680]

Ikr, the Heal Bells on my Clefable and Blissey just go *poof*

[@crazydud2432]

it really is heartbreaking to see gamefreak throwing out so much history

[@icecontrol1]

lmao story, as if there aren'tt millions of Pokemon already online like that In way they will be again available in the future

[@Philip027]

Blame Nintendo for this one. They're wiping out a lot of stuff, not just Pokemon stuff. Game Freak probably has zero say in this.

[@Goliath1337]

Other way around @@Philip027

[@IzraelGraves]

​@@Philip027Considering they have the permission to keep Bank running after Nintendos servers shut down, I'd say you're full of shit. Especially considering Gamefreaks horrible, greedy track record. They take away Bank, you eventually have to pay for whatever solution they offer to get your old Pokemon back. Nothing is free, everyone is money.

[@rpgfanatic9719]

@@Philip027 Nintendo has been taking away playable characters, features abilities longer than GF has in their own games. Example: fludd in super Mario Sunshine.

[@LeaveMeArone]

It’s so frustrating that they are locking the DS and 3DS eras. I think I speak for many in saying that we’d prefer ports of the originals with online rather than a chibi remake.

[@Vampirecrypt]

I honestly think more chibi style remakes wouldn't be that bad if they were made properly and involved content from the third versions unlike how bdsp completely abandoned platinum content. Although I think everyone would prefer ports with online content, the idea of more chibi remakes wouldn't be awful if they improved on them (and were developed by an actual game development company)

[@jmicjm]

​@@Vampirecrypt remakes like HGSS and ORAS were amazing as remakes. The lets go games and bdsp were not.

[@protoretro1290]

Unfortunately it isn't just the 3DS and DS Era's this move is locking away. It's also the Gameboy and Gameboy Advance Era's as well. The VC became the only official way to transfer gen I and II Pokemon beyond those two generations, and it also was the most accessible way to transfer Gen III to Gen VI and beyond

[@g.koch.]

​@@jmicjmbetter art style than the new big ones tho

[@geovanixx]

Adding info about Furfrou, all of his normal/shiny forms lose their style when going from Bank to Home, unless they are deposited directly from GO, which involves "traveling" to more than 5 specific places in the world without counting the heart form , only obtained during the Valentine's Day event in February.

[@Hchris101]

🤯

[@idiotically-everything]

Yeah. It fucking SUCKS

[@idiotically-everything]

Only reason I even torture myself with pokemon go

[@franciscogarciaraigal6401]

@@idiotically-everything For real. I hate POGO but there's literally no other way around furfrou forms

[@idiotically-everything]

@@franciscogarciaraigal6401 I know! I gotta shiny hunt a goddamn celebi twice to trade for a fucking pharaoh trim furfrou, unless I can transfer a ton of minior and try to trade for one lol ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@brendanbuckner2561]

Someone should compile all this info in a spreadsheet, it could be a checklist of sorts for people

[@themarxfromkirby]

me (an elemental monkey fan) when i physically can't obtain any of the monkeys because i dont own x or y (and probably wont before the internet cut)

[@SMZProductions]

I’d be 100% willing to trade ya all 3, how about it?

[@Its_Asteria]

If you'd like I can add you on switch and trade you a few things through pokemon home in the app if need be. I unfortunately don't have x or y to trade in. I only have ultra moon. So that's also an option as well I have pokemon white, black and white 2 so.i can easily get all of those for you except the mythicals

[@_DeltaEmerald]

Fellow monkey fan! I have some in my pokemon home! Could trade them over

[@dnalsiem2000]

I can also be one to help with these Y Omega ruby and US trades even the virtual console achievements thru home

[@awewi7309]

hack your 3ds and get the games for free

[@SuperKamehameha2]

I really hate that Bank is closing, I wish it was just an offline application such as Pokémon Box for gen 3. I’m actually starting a Pokémon gauntlet where I replay allll the games, because to be honest I dumped my entire living dex on Home and now all of those files are pretty much empty, and I want to basically have a way to have all those Pokémon in their original files again

[@bsg-jay7093]

Pokemon Company has said Bank is NOT shutting down in April

[@davidfelez7575]

​@@bsg-jay7093but It will eventually

[@Lucky_Number113]

That's what I'm doing, too--I'm playing all the main series Pokémon games I have on my 3DS (Blue, Yellow, Crystal, XY, ORAS, and (U)SM.) I'll even keep rebattling all the E4 and champions so they can have all the Champion ribbons before sending them over to Home.

[@LeviathanMusic1]

@@bsg-jay7093 Yes, but as the video said in the beginning, they did imply that Bank will be shutting down some point soon. We just don't know when.

[@CtrlAltBacks]

So I was thinking about solutions to this. Could Bank connect to a LAN server to transfer data that way? Like if Home and Bank were connected to the same network or if maybe Home could set up a network for Bank to connect to for premium users. The switch can already use that kind of feature with sending screenshots and videos to your phone, I wonder if it would work the same way. Would that be possible for GF to create? I don't really understand that kind of stuff. I also really don't want Bank to close forever. And of course, while it isn't being used to transfer between Home and Bank, Bank should be offline and use the 3ds' storage. I hope I didn't look like an idiot or didn't make sense. I'm just holding out hope for some kind of solution that can be added officially or by fans, if possible.

[@lasercraft32]

Pokemon is kinda insane... Just the fact that you can technically get a Pokemon from the very first Pokemon games and transfer it ALL the way to the newest games is crazy. Unfortunately if they shut down the Pokemon Bank, this will no longer be the case. :(

[@jonathanbowers8964]

Well you really cant get Pokemon from Red and Blue or Gold and Silver (except through the virtual Gameboy on the 3DS) because of a hard cut off between gens 2 and 3. But you can get a pokemon from Ruby and Sapphire into Gen 9 using legitimate hardware.

[@enoyna1001]

What if they release Gens 1 and 2 for the Switch again as VC games?

[@arabidmeerkat247]

​@@enoyna1001I think it's more likely that we would get a Gen 2 remake on Switch/whatever the next console is (since we have LGPE for Gen 1) rather than seeing both of these on the NOS/VC

[@mallangs]

I mean not really tho.

[@20ZZ20]

@@jonathanbowers8964someone has developed a way of trading from gen 2 to gen 3 on KZbin somewhere

[@thebigbean8783]

I got pokemon bank a couple hours before the shop closed. Then I did some reading and realized transporter existed and couldn't for the life of me figure out how to get it. Turns out I had to pay for a month (or year idk) just for it to shut down in an hour. Got it though. Thank God

[@gmont28]

Same

[@mds_main]

I got Bank when it became free, but I refused to pay for the Poketransporter. They should have made it available for free at the same time of Bank. Fortunately I don't have any reason to use it since I got everything I need in both gen 6 and 7, but it still hurts to see.

[@jsamue12]

@@mds_mainthey made it free to download but because the store was closed there wasn’t a way to navigate to the download screen. The hacking community made a mod that put you on the download screen within 2 days, which lets you download it completely legitimately

[@simplypink8375]

@@mds_main i believe its possible to get it if you mod your 3ds though. im still getting the confidence to do it, but ive heard the poketransporter from hshop works fine!

[@EmL-kg5gn]

Same, but there is an unconventional way. There’s a patch for crystal called crystal clear that you can get to circumvent this. Apparently the only way to get it is through the creator’s discord so I’ll have to figure out how to use discord but it’s better than paying for what should’ve been free

[@thisismyaltaccount4195]

I've been made aware of efforts to create fan run servers supporting the online functions of 3DS and Wii U games, which is espesh great for the gen 6 games, being that the chat Player search system or PSS is the single best form of online connectivity in the entire franchise. I really hope and effort is also being made to create fan run servers to support bank after the shutdown. It's simply unfair to shut it down this early into it's life. We know maintaining the servers is hardly a blip on Nintendo's financial radar. This feels heartless to fans no matter which way you slice it. Hopefully fans can continue the tradition of continuing support for features Nintendo is all too quick to abandon.

[@lexruptor]

Not likely. Anything a Bank setver does, you can do entirely offline with a Laptop and PkHex. Why go through the trouble of making a server for a thing that by all means doesn't require one?

[@michelangelo8011]

​​@@lexruptorhi, i never used pkhex, can i ask you how It would work? Like, Imagine i find a shiny lugia in silver, i can clone that Pokemon data in pkhex? Would It be legal and usable in game?

[@viktor.m.]

@@michelangelo8011 can clone that Pokemon data in pkhex? Yes. Would It be legal and usable in game? The caveat here is the difference between "legal" "legit" and "hacked". You can always use the Pokémon in game (given that you don't break their data with weird inputs etc.) but HOME will recognize e.g. the date you received a gift pokemon in. Meaning, if you use the DNS exploit but dont change the "date caught" data, it'd be considered hacked and not available in HOME. There are other things but TLDR: in game you can use it. Putting it up to HOME is a different story, depends tho

[@ChomperRex20]

@@michelangelo8011No, because of a change made recently. You cannot put Pokémon into Home that were genned if they are supposed to be from an old game

[@lavafighter2513]

​@@ChomperRex20I thought they meant they legally found a shiny Lugia and used Pkhex to transfer it to a modern game through cloning. Or is that also not allowed?

[@MonoHerobrine]

This makes me more and more sadder seeing the state that overall gaming preservation is still, with no easy available way of obtaining them without using roms or hacks, and yet, they complain when we do use those methods but we have no other option. I understand services not lasting forever but it's their job to at least give us alternate ways to be able to obtain these games, or in this case, be able to obtain these Pokémon. I'm glad that more mythicals have been much easier to get by implementing them into the base game but there are still a few that have no and who knows when they'll ever come back. Why can't a lot of companies just listen... oh yeah... MONEY... :c

[@jacobesterson]

FANS are still maintaining the MKWII servers. These services could easily last for a lifetime with minimal effort, that's just how little they care. Triple A gaming company, remember?

[@av2279]

How is it their "job" to always make sure we have a way to get every single thing we want from them? You think it's their responsibility, for how long exactly? Forever?? And yes, it costs money to maintain these things. Their money. They can do what they'd like with it, especially once they see that the usage of these programs is a fraction of what it used to be.

[@MonoHerobrine]

@@av2279 I'm not just talking about just Pokémon, but game preservation as a whole. Look at Smash Melee as an example, so many tournaments are held because so many people play and become great at that game but its not easy to get hold of a copy of the game nowadays so emulation is the easiest method to play it, however Nintendo are against emulation yet will not give us a way of playing this game, such as to simple put it on an NSO service. 87% of all video games as a whole are "critically endangered", not having an easy way of obtaining it or having a re-release of it. All games, good or bad, deserve to be preserved.

[@MonoHerobrine]

@@jacobesterson I'm so thankful that there are so many passionate fans out there that are keeping these games alive, I know that one day the Switch servers will shut down and that the FANS will step up to keep games like Smash, Mario Kart, etc. alive.

[@av2279]

@@MonoHerobrine Nintendo did not create SSBM with the intention of supporting/facilitating SSBM tournaments 20+ years after its release. The fact that people still play it and compete in fan-made tournaments and events is great, but when exactly does any of that become Nintendo's responsibility to make it accessible for people? They are not obligated to support any of that. Those are decisions that fans are making on their own, and they should therefore assume all the difficulties and downsides of doing so. Nintendo didn't make any sort of official encouragement to do that (I've heard the opposite, actually), and even if they are okay with it, they never agreed to make SSBM available in xyz ways. Why do you have this perspective that they are responsible for solving this problem 20 years later? Yes, I agree games and all media should be preserved (or at least attempted to), but "preserved" is subjective. What is enough preservation to you? That we should all be able to play any game we want at any moment, on any platform? In a tournament any time, anywhere? Secondly, and more importantly, the companies that make these games never agreed to make these games available in any way shape or form that fans demand down the road. It's not their obligation, or "job" to do that. Whether it costs them a dollar or a million to do xyz, that's their money to do with as they please. Even if they could theoretically make a profit doing it, they still don't have to do it. To be clear, I also agree that it's annoying when companies complain about things like emulation for older games, but objectively, they released the original game how and when they wanted (with whatever support it included), and they aren't required to do anything more than that if it isn't written anywhere on the purchase.

[@XperimentorEES]

It's insultingly lazy that a multibillion dollar megacorporation refuses to keep an online service running for more than a few years, but that just reminds me why 'unconventional' options remain more relevant than ever lol. Glad you brought up them arbitrarily cutting moves & abilities from the latest generations, it's such a weird change that doesn't even promote balancing or cleanup duplicates.

[@eimardgomes1128]

It's insane how they were able to put everything into the old games for 7 generations. But now all those glitches (spinda), moves deleted and such... Pokemon co is not the same anymore

[@katzlover321]

⁠@@eimardgomes1128 what glitches and move deletions?

[@eimardgomes1128]

@@katzlover321 you can't transfer your old spindas to new pokemon games . And I recently found out there was a glitch in pokemon sword that made impossible to finish the game, if you just fly off rose tower before entering it. Seriously, when in old games there was such a simple glitch to drigger that made you lose all the progress in a game?? Moves deleted? Lots of them that existed since gen 1 and 2, like barrier, egg bomb, barrage, clamp etc... Some signature moves too... And a few exclusive moves from recent gens that you can not even use competitively, like after you on reuniclus/slowbro/musharna... I'm so pissed everytime I find out something I want to use is not coded into the game. It was never the case for 23 years!!

[@PapuPinguino]

​@@eimardgomes1128not trying to justify anything but those moves you mentioned are pretty dogshit compared to the other ones available, there is no reason to delete them but it's not like it REALLY matters

[@mainzer45]

​@PapuPinguino there were some notable moves removed that have no better alternatives, being frustration/return, pursuit, and hidden power. Pursuit removal being the most impactful, making ghosts incredibly strong in the metagame with much less counterplay.

[@thefrontier2288]

Im highly upset. I remember wayyyyy back when Bank first came out i said "this will inevitable die and we will lose our connection to the past games" but everyone i knew just rolled with bank being the new thing. Here we are. Losing connection to all those past games. I honestly think gen 9 will be my last generation because to me that connection is the greatest part of pokemon. I can play gen 3 and bring it all the way up to the latest ones. Without that i just don't want to make more memories with these new games knowing one that thier connection might also die.

[@fatuusdottore]

I agree. Gen 8 was my last Gen.

[@Zichqec]

Agree. I won't play anything past gen 6, and I regret that gen 6 has ORAS which I love, because without it I could stick with 3-5 and not have to deal with the dread that's been hanging over me for years whenever I think of these games.

[@pr4420]

Never trust anything TPC/game freak says regarding 'future proofing'. The 3d models were supposed to be 'future proof'. Bank was supposed to be 'future proof'. I think ORAS or USUM is a good stopping point they have plenty of content.

[@rpgfanatic9719]

@@pr4420 The 3d models they made were in fact future proof and the earthbound team made them besides, really has nothing to do with GF.

[@infiniteoctopaw]

Nintendo: "How do we sell Pokemon Home subscriptions to people?" Pokemon company: "We us FOMO and threaten to put down their pets if they don't."

[@Typi]

Ah yes, Home shutting down. Also known as The Great Spinda Masacre. It's sad to think how it was made to make sure you could being all of your pokemon to future games, only for it to eventually become completely impossible.

[@Ovenman940]

And we had to pay for this crap

[@IzraelGraves]

Bank* shutting down. Not HOME

[@Saldivinorum]

​@@IzraelGraveswell now if they actually shutdown PokeBank, what makes you act like they won't pull the rug from under Home when it becomes antiquated in their corporate opinion? I get being a grammar officer from a satirical comedic view, but here it just seems the epitome of unnecessary. imo anyway

[@IzraelGraves]

​@@Saldivinorum First of all, I never once said that HOME would never shut down. That was the fucking PINNACLE of reaching for something to argue about. Second, I didn't correct grammar. This has nothing to do with grammar or spelling. These are two entirely different products, and which one shutting down is completely relevant. None of what you said makes any sense or matters in the slightest. This was a feral, gut reaction to seeing someone, in your eyes, get corrected, and its a sad way to live your life. This level of insane defensiveness shouldn't be your go-to upon being course-corrected when a mistake has been made, especially when *it wasn't even you who was corrected*. I also wasn't even being "the grammar police" as I stated already; this was an important distinction to make so as not to confuse anyone reading the comment. Learn to accept mistake corrections. Be better than this, or we are all doomed to remaining ignorant and unintelligent out of fear of bursting a fragile ego.

[@Saldivinorum]

@@IzraelGraves holy cow, I wasn't even chastising you for anything just making a joke, so chill "first of all." Second I never said you claimed Home would never get shutdown, I said you acted like that, and the key here is I also added that was MY OPINION. So again, chill. I'm honestly just trying to get the point across that if PokeBank actually shuts down, Home will be a moot difference between PB because at that point Pokémon as a whole will have lost the core fans that cared enough to grind old iterations to bring them to modern versions. This will likely be the beginning of the end for Pokémons ridiculous popularity, because at that point why continue fanatic admiration for a brand that clearly doesn't care about the people that made them what they are today? Not sure what's with the unnecessary attitude my direction, but I hope a more exhaustive explanation made clearer that I didn't intend in any way to admonish your comment, just that it was unnecessary due to the fact that this is a sore subject from a customer relationship and quite obvious what the op meant anyway. Obviously the reference didn't really need correction, you're just compelled to be the grammar police online. And furthermore "wantstoarguesemanticssobad..." grammar is defined as "the entire system and structure of a language." Please by all means explain to me how your initial correction is completely unrelated to "grammar." I'm a patient as well as curious individual... .. .

[@Dani-Claw]

Every single time I think TPC can't take MORE away from us, they do. The removal of Pokémon Bank will be an even more tragic loss than the horrid Dex cut, because then it means all your 3DS save files will be forever locked and disconnected from all the future games. It feels like being given a beautiful ice cream sundae and Pokémon just continuing to take more and more from it until you only have bits and pieces to cling onto. I know the simple answer is "money" but it still continues to genuinely sadden me every new trashy decision they make to die-hard fans (and collectively, anyone who loves the IP). Thank you SO much for this helpful "archival" sort of video. I plan on playing through Y again and Omega Ruby with the benefit of having "unlocked" 3DS features to actually capture my game footage. I know there are emulators, but I want to use my actual mons in my future games. Even if they are just bytes of data, they all have memories with them. I hope I can accomplish all of this before their next death date so I can preserve all the things I want to.

[@carnage0685]

???????? You can use your actual mons on emulators, though? Emulators aren't the actual hardware, but they DO play the actual game. You can use the very same Pokemon you caught on a cartridge on your computer.

[@davidgeese]

It really will be THE turning point for the history of the series, and certainly the end of an era. Replaying older games are going to have a different feel to them knowing your new team members won't be able to sit next to your old ones from your first playthrough. I'm no engineer, but I feel like if they really cared about preservation (they probably don't), there's got to be some way they could make an adapter that connects 3DS games into the Switch cartridge slot solely to read and transfer data from Pokemon games to Home. (Even hypothetically, this is still going to screw over digital only owners)

[@SnoFitzroy]

You guys are still whining about dexit like little babies?????

[@Tristan_Shuler]

What kills me is that my daughter (6) will never be able to play my old games and bring her favorites up to current gens. Imagine her playing HeartGold on my 3DS and she encounters a random shiny, or her favorite Pokémon finally evolves. Those Pokémon will forever be locked to that game cartridge. I had always believed if I died prematurely, at least my children and wife could always play a Pokémon game with my favorites to still feel connected to me somehow. And now because of this, they’ll never be able to bring any of those Pokémon to whatever the current games are. Really wish TPC and GF could figure this out.

[@Dani-Claw]

@@SnoFitzroy How DARE we expect more from AAA Highest grossing game companies!! You are NEVER allowed to complain about crappy game company or corporate decisions EVER! Bethesda, EA and Blizzard? Perfect angels. You are NOT allowed to criticize them.

[@DigiMax1337]

You forgot four moves being hold back and hold hands which were event moves only in Gen 6 and 7. And fused kyurem signature moves unlike necrozma they don’t automatically register so you need a smeargle to learn the moves as fused Pokémon can’t be put in home or bank. And the last game to have both kyurem and smeargle in it was the ultra games

[@davidgeese]

Wow, that feels like oversight levels of hoops you have to jump through

[@fractalisomega9517]

All event moves get wiped when you transfer to Scarlet/Violet anyways which is a huuuuuuge devaluing of many event pokemon... some were inconsequential like Hold Hands, but others like V-Create Rayquaza and Shadow Force Arceus have big implications for their viability in battle

[@TheRedSmarty]

​@@fractalisomega9517 They aren't wiped, just only viewable within HOME (it gives the option to view a Pokémon's data as they would have been in Bank).

[@gardevoirtrainer4526]

This is why I bought Y last month and Alpha Sapphire this month. I'm keeping almost all of my Pokemon in Ultra Sun since it has the most usable Pokemon in the franchise with 807 and the amazing Battle Tree to play in.

[@radaf4429]

"The amazing battle tree" lmao I'm dead

[@nomad8690]

Battle Tree gave me PTSD....

[@MACK_MONEY]

I absolutely loved the battle tree. I love all the battle towers in each gen. It's my favorite feature in the series. People online tend to use the same legendary mons over and over, and I find that very boring. The battle towers always have varied and creative teams. That makes them more fun, in my opinion.

[@Robbie_Haruna]

​@radaf4429 Well, it's basically the best take on the battle tower to date, with the cool addition of being able to recruit defeated trainers for multi battles. Sword and Shield had a super dumbed down battle tower with no multi battles at all, and it isn't even in Scarlet and Violet yet

[@radaf4429]

@@Robbie_Haruna You're able to multi battle with the stat trainers in gen 4 but I see your point. It's way cooler when Archie's involved.

[@VictoriousVulpix]

Also worth saying, sun/moon and ultra sun/moon can only trade with each other. And there are Pokémon lines unobtainable that will forever be untranserable once bank closes. May be worth grabbing a member of each unobtainable line and transferring it into one of the gen 7 games to be able to breed them later if you want to use them at a later date.

[@mds_main]

There's also some unobtainable Pokemon forms that are also unbreadable like the Unown so you would need more than one pokemon per species if you plan on having a full living pokedex in the seventh gen. The same goes for the sixth gen, as you can only obtain the autumn, winter and summer Deerling and Sawsbuck through the fifth generation or by breeding one of the same form that was already transferred.

[@Lunailee]

can someone give me the list to the pokemon that will no longer exist? I just wanna make sure

[@VictoriousVulpix]

@@Lunailee This is the list I used, just update with a couple I was missing. If I’m missing any, anyone else feel free to chime in. Kanto Rattata Kanto Sandshrew Kanto Vulpix Kanto Diglett Kanto Meowth Kanto Geodude Kanto Grimer Koffing-line Farfetch’d Nidoran-line Oddish-line Venonat-line Ponyta-line Doduo-line Krabby-line Tangela-line Hitmon-line Mew Girafarig Sentret-line Hoppip-line Sunkern-line Unown Wobbuffet-line Gligar-line Qwifish Shuckle Teddiursa-line Phanpy-line Stantler Celebi Numel-line Poochyena-line Zigzagoon-line Wurmple-line Shroomish-line Nincada-line Whismur-line Skitty-line Plusle Minun Volbeat and Illumise Gulpin-line Cacnea-line Zangoose Seviper Solrock Lunatone Duskull-line Chimecho-line Jirachi Deoxys Bidoof-line Kricktot-line Burmy-line Combee-line Pachirisu Cherubi-line Glameow-line Stunky-line Bronzor-line Chatot Spritomb Crogunk-line Carnivine Manaphy and Phoine Darkrai Shaymin Arcues Victini Patrat-line Purrlion-line Pansage-line Pansear-line Panpour-line Munna-line Pidove-line Blizile-line Woobat-line Drillbur-line Tympole-line Throh Sawk Darumaka-line Maractus Yamask-line Deerling-line Karrablast-line Foongus-line Joltik-line Ferrotseed-line Chubchoo-line Cryogonal Shelmet-line Bouffalant Heatmor Durant Keldeo Meloetta Genesect Bunnelby-line Skiddo-line Espurr-line Spritzze-line Swirlix-line Pumkaboo-line Bergmite-line Diance Hoopa Volcanion

[@Lunailee]

@@VictoriousVulpix ty!!

[@SupHapCak]

Wtf This list is like All my favorites. Although there aren’t any pokemon I don’t like

[@Spamkromite]

My Shaymin will live forever in my 3DS. I like to pet him and feed him and I imagine he's a virtual pet. I don't care about the bank but it's good to know that I'd potentially have lost my Shaymin to the servers of Nintendo.

[@OneClick2go]

Ironic to calk that good ? Maybe ...

[@davidgeese]

Thank you so much to everyone that has commented on things I missed in the video! I’m going to use this mega comment as a list of everything I’ve learned from you guys that I didn't mention in the video. I’ll continue to update this with relevant information, and everything in this comment will be included in the updated video with proper credit given, after the Indigo Disk comes out. - Alolan Meowth, Alolan Raichu, and Alolan Diglett are also available in SWSH Isle of Armor DLC as a reward for collecting 5, 40, and 150 Diglett in the scavenger hunt. Meowth and Diglett have their hidden abilities, but this can be changed with an Ability Patch in SV. Thank You @mainly_maeve and @TheRedSmarty -Spinda from BDSP and GO can’t be deposited into Home, they have to be transferred from Bank. Thank you @littledefender3281 @GoobbueXIV and @theophileg.3828 -Victini can only be obtained through the DNS Exploit ONLY in Black and White, NOT Black 2 and White 2. Thank You @jakewantscake -Mat Block is a move learned by Greninja at Level 1 in Gens 6 and 7, and Throh at Level 1 in Gen 7. It can be used in SWSH, but can’t be taught. Thank You @roboninjasaur6729 -Hold Back and Hold Hands are event only moves and can only be obtained by hacking in Gens 6 and 7. Thank You @DigiMax1337 -Ice Burn and Freeze Shock are the signature moves of White Kyurem and Black Kyurem respectively. Fused Pokemon forms are unable to be deposited into Bank/Home, so the only way to register these moves is to have a Smeargle use Sketch on them, and bring that Smeargle into Home. The last game this was possible to do in was USUM. Thank You Again @DigiMax1337 -V-create and Fleur Cannon are the signature moves of Victini and Magearna respectively. They can be taught in SWSH but the pokemon themselves are not obtainable in any Switch games. I highlighted Deoxys’ Psycho Boost for this reason but forgot to mention these two moves. -As mentioned in comments by @jebi-sensei497 and @ahlstar2046, keep in mind certain combinations of pokeballs and Pokemon will no longer be obtainable. For example, Geodude in a Safari ball can only be obtained in HGSS. -Ribbons exclusive to Gens 3-7 being cut off from Home means the Ribbon Master Challenge will no longer be doable in it's most complete form -Shiny Celebi can be obtained in Gold and Silver VC through glitches. Thank You @RoseSupreme Here’s a guide on that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eauxcmibo7ithbs&ab_channel=PokeTips -”The QR Scanner in Gen 7 is the only way to register several shiny locked Pokemon as shiny in Pokemon Home's Pokedex, as Pokemon Bank transfers all Pokedex entries from gen 6 and 7 games whenever you do a transfer” - @SaltedNeos Full details in this video made by them: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5XPfKFrpK-srqs&ab_channel=SaltedNeos Thank you to @thedragonemperor0084 for providing a list of Pokemon that are shiny locked in Switch games but not in earlier games: -Mew can be shiny in the Faraway Island event in Emerald. A glitched Shiny Mew can also be obtained in Gen 1 VC, I recommend Austin John Plays video on the subject: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKfLpn2piJl4nqc&ab_channel=AustinJohnPlays -Deoxys can be shiny in the Birth Island event in FRLG and Emerald. This is the only way shiny Deoxys has ever been obtainable. -Darkrai and Shaymin in DPPT can be shiny. The void glitch can be used in Diamond and Pearl to reach both of them, but may be flagged as illegitimate if you try to transfer them up. Platinum players will have to hack in the event items in order to hunt, but these should not get flagged. These two can be shiny in BDSP, however the distribution for their events has long since passed, so I figured I would mention them here. (Thank you @MarkHogan994) -Type: Null can be gifted as shiny in SM & USUM. The one gifted in SWSH is shiny locked. -Poipole is the same situation, can be shiny in USUM, but is shiny locked in the Crown Tundra -Jirachi from the Pokemon Colosseum Bonus Disc can be shiny. This is an infamously difficult hunt that requires a lot of hardware, I’d recommend your own research on the matter. -Manaphy eggs from the Pokemon Ranger games can be shiny. This is THE infamously difficult shiny hunt that requires a lot of hardware, a lot of time (yikes), and a ton of luck. Again, I’d recommend doing your own research if interested.

[@TheRedSmarty]

Note on Isle of Armor Alolan Diglett: Hidden Abilities cannot be removed in SwSh. It has to be transfered to Scarlet or Violet first, than an Ability PATCH needs to be used.

[@mds_main]

There's also the fact that, about Ash-Greninja, the SM demo only works with the og Sun and Moon games, not with the Ultra versions, and of course the demo is no longer legally available now. Also, I think there are some pokemon forms that are only available through Bank right now and that haven't been mentioned, like the Pokeball pattern Vivillon. Also, there are some shiny forms that are only available through Bank too and that haven't been mentioned, like shiny Mew. Finally, I think some Home pokedex entries can only be registered from Bank, like the megaevolutions ones. EDIT: I also think some ribbons will be lost and some "special" pokemons too, like the Glalie and Steelix you could get from the ORAS demo.

[@Gamerdog64]

W

[@TheRedSmarty]

@@mds_main Like was brought up in the video, Mega Evolutions (and all battle-only forms) are automatically registered in HOME's Pokédex when their base forms are.

[@mds_main]

@@TheRedSmarty Yes, but I was referring to the pokedex entries not the forms themselves. I've heard that you can only unlock the megas entries if you already have them registered in Bank.

[@fdrehug7318]

The lost shiny hunting methods is a real shame

[@the7569]

Thank you for making this! It really upsets me that bank may be closer to death than we think. As a shiny hunter and pokémon collector it's very upsetting to me because a lot of pokémon simply cannot be shiny hunted in future games even if they are available there. Like for example deoxys, it's awesome that you are guaranteed to see one at the end of oras but also it's shiny locked obviously. But in fire Red and leaf Green with its original distribution event it was not shiny locked. So if you want a shiny form dex You are seriously going to have to rush and grind out a bunch of shiny hunts for mythical events that are very hard to access unless you know how to do certain glitches or have a cheating device to get you there. Either way, really great video man, you went over a few things that I didn't even realize were going away that I definitely need to do before bank shuts down. I hope that it lasts at least until 2025. I mean with what they said it might not, but the idea of not being able to bring up old pokémon anymore is quite upsetting to me especially because there are so many interesting cool challenges with home that will just be incompletable. Who knows, maybe the pokémon company will learn that re-releasing their old games will make them infinite money. So once the stuff is off the 3DS maybe they'll just release the game boy games, and maybe even the game boy advance games on the switch. Even as someone who already owns all of the game boy advance games and game boy games I think that it is so important for them to do this. Because the prices on these games are just ridiculous and I think a big part of that is the fact that there's no official way to play them anymore other than the cartridges. Plus in Crystal they brought back the Celebi event, so maybe if we got a re-release of fire Red leaf Green and Ruby Sapphire emerald we would get official re-releases of the events like far away Island mew and birth Island deoxys

[@davidgeese]

Thanks for the support! It truly baffles me how we still don't have the GameBoy and GBA titles on the Switch. With all the nostalgia baiting they do, you'd think we would have just started selling the ROMs for full price by now.

[@MattGraves01]

Poipole and Type Null too. They can be shiny hunted in Gen 7 but not in SwSH as they are shiny locked there.

[@the7569]

@@MattGraves01 yep don't worry those are on my list lol

[@OStheSpike]

Other than poipole and type null are there any other Mons that are shiny locked outside of earlier gen games (that are not mentioned in the video)? Considering replaying the older games to obtain those shines.

[@the7569]

@@OStheSpike Yes, several. Celebi can only be shiny hunted in Crystal, Mew can only be shiny hunted in emerald, deoxys can only be shiny hunted in emerald and fire Red leaf Green, jirachi can only be hunted in generation 3 through the Colosseum bonus disc, Manaphy can only be shiny hunted in the Gen 4 games through the egg You get by beating ranger, Darkrai and shaymin can only be hunted in platinum unless you have the items that were limited time giveaways in BDSP which you can no longer get, there is also a partner cap Pikachu in pokémon Ultra Sun Ultra Moon that was meant to be shiny locked but the shiny lock did not work correctly, it displays as the exact same colors but it does have shiny sparkles so that counts as a shiny that can only be hunted in a previous game. Other than that the only other pokémon that are only able to be hunted in past generations are pokémon that are no longer available to catch in any of the switch games. Like the patrat line and the elemental monkeys. We have confirmation that they will not be returning in the DLC. Technically you can find these pokémon in pokémon GO shiny, but the monkeys specifically are spread out across the world so it's very hard to find them

[@GiegueX]

Given how pokemon is one of the most successful franchises out there, it's insane how little effort GF put towards their games

[@theflaminggroundon632]

Or time for the developers

[@IzraelGraves]

One of the most successful franchises is actually a big downplay; they make the most money in the world. Period. No other game brand of anything ever makes as much money as Pokemon. To put that in perspective the second highest grossing franchise in the world is Super Mario, at 30 billion. Pokemon is at 90 billion. *Ninety billion*. And you see the effort they put into their releases? They might as well be an indie company with the amount of their own resources they allocate to their product. Its ridiculous and frankly, disrespectful.

[@anonanonymous9670]

@@IzraelGraves "Its ridiculous and frankly, disrespectful." Well, the fans don't seem to care with how well Sword & Shield and Scarlet & Violet are selling.

[@IzraelGraves]

@@anonanonymous9670 No, they really don't. Its a problem exacerbated by limiting the Pokemon in certain games, and GameFreak abusing people's nostalgia and care for the franchise. We love our Pokemon, we grew with these Pokemon, we don't want to lose them. So even if their next game is bad, we're gonna keep buying it, so we can keep transferring up. All this does is send the wrong message to the bankers at GF. The entire premise of Bank and HOME especially is sold on this goodwill abuse. It sucks, because at the end of the day, GF started as a company that really cared about what they were making. They cared about fans. Then they made literally ALL of the money, got shareholders and CEOs, and we stopped being people. Now we're wallets.

[@g.koch.]

​@@anonanonymous9670selling yes, but over longterm playing or reselling/not playing is another story. Everyone I know who got the new games got bored with them quickly, even when they handed it down to their kids or kids of friends who play now, those found them aswell lame and abandoned them quickly for other games or older parts of the series..

[@ThatReallyIsNotOdd]

This was a really sweet and informative video. Nice job bud! The concept of Bank shutting down and permanently cutting access off from Gens 1 to most of Gen 7 (as LGPE is still part of Gen 7) is truly awful and a slap in the face to those who like to transfer everything over. Even if people somehow manage to exploit Bank and make it accessible in the future, not everyone might feel comfortable tinkering with their 3DS and modding it (even though I strongly recommend to do so). I think the worst thing is that Nintendo is adding everything BUT old Pokémon games to NSO or just a compilation rerelease. That would solve some issues such as with Celebi or Deoxys if people don’t have bank for whatever reason. One last thing I hate is the move reset introduced in BDSP. So any event Pokémon dating as far back to Gen 3 will lose access to event moves forever unless game freak decides to rerelease these events again or have brand new events with the moves (which isn’t going to be happening). Really hope modders can preserve bank in anyway they can, as they are doing their best to get Wii U and 3DS online servers ready as soon as possible before the official shutdown in April 2024.

[@lilpetz500]

It brings me back to my thoughts when it was first released. Even at like 14, I wasn't a big fan of a paid subscription model just to store my collection of Pokemon as I was lucky to even afford the 2ds and Pokemon X just to buy into the new gen. And being entirely online had me fear the day we'd lose access to it. And now we're here, and I had no idea just how expensive and artificially limited it would get. It would be far more justifiable if they actually allowed us to archive and reexperience their old games whether through buying them for the switch, or not having every rom try to be cracked down and removed online, but no. We have to sneakily pirate and mod thongs just to enjoy what we know they could just let us have. And no, none of this is worth maintaining that terrible 3 year generational cycle. It simply doesn't work to try produce incrementally improved games in such short of a dev time without having them be embarrassingly unpolished. It works capitalistically, but it will seriously ruin their legacy.

[@himedo1512]

It doesn't though. PKSM and pkhex are here for transfers. So you're still good if you have a hacked switch.

[@radaf4429]

Slap in the face? You mean slow pulling off of a bandaid while under anesthesia? You had to have seen this coming years ago and they still haven't formally announced it. If you haven't done all your transferring yet that's honestly on you

[@OneClick2go]

Yeah but the whole sweet info is just a yapping about fiction that have no value in reality... So what is informative in smth kind of useless

[@ThatReallyIsNotOdd]

@@lilpetz500 It is a shame, especially as Nintendo switch online is releasing every game except mainline Pokemon games. Sure they released Snap, Stadium and that puzzle game but they do not help at all. You can also use PKHEX and PKSM but again you have to mod your system to be able to do that.

[@ARDIZsq]

Couple of notes: - The Kalos starters are technically available in SV if you did their respective Mightiest Mark raids, or know someone who did to get a bred one from them. They'll be in the Indigo Disk though regardless. - FURFROU IS THE BANE OF MY EXISTENCE! Ok not really, but since it can only retain its trim through Go, FOR SOME REASON, that means you need to catch 10 Furfrou in Go, get 225 Furfrou Candy, go to real world Asia-Pacific, Europe/Middle East/Africa, Americas/Greenland, France, Japan, AND Egypt, and also wait for a 1 week event in February JUST to get the different trims. And if you want them shiny, well good luck with that one. I REALLY hope that in the next games, whatever they may be, they both bring back Furfrou AND let the trim stay around as a form change along the lines of something like Deoxys where it can be reversed by choice, but otherwise stays. - As far as I'm aware, Partner Cap Pikachu is NOT shiny locked, meaning if you want one, you'd better go for it as soon as possible. You can always grind out the regular one if Bank is going to shut down soon (when inevitably announced), but the shiny will take much more time to get. - Any moves learned by the Ultra Beasts are potentially worth picking up on them, since they're SUPER easy to get in USUM thanks to being able to buy Beast Balls and use the Ultra Warp Ride. - Speaking of Beast Balls, now is THE best time to stock up on Pokemon in Beast Balls. Since they're purchasable ONLY in USUM, they're the easiest games to catch Pokemon in them. If for some reason you may in the future want to obtain a bred shiny of a specific Pokemon catchable in USUM in a Beast Ball, now would be the time to go catch them and transfer them up. (Personally, I'm 100% going for Greninja). Sure, the ball is in SWSH/SV, but you only get 1 unless you get lucky with RNG after beating the league/academy again. For that reason, I'd also recommend SAVING your Beast Ball in SWSH/SV for a Pokemon exclusive to those games. (Personally, I'm going for a shiny Iron Valiant) - One more HUGE thing to mention are Ribbons. Every ribbon exclusive to Gen 3-7 will be forever lost to time if not obtained now. If you feel like getting a Ribbon Master, NOW would be the time to start, considering just how many contests and battle facilities you need to go through. While some ribbons like the ones for Hyper Training or certain Champion Ribbons MAY become available in the future with new games/remakes, the Ribbons from XD/Colosseum will more than likely STAY locked to those games, so if they're something you'd want... well good luck with eBay on that one.

[@alexspeedwagon3701]

As a beast ball enjoyer, I've thought about trying to do a living dex (Or as much of one as is possible) of beast ball mons. The guaranteed catches in the gen 8 + 9 raids are amazing for this, especially if you're willing to farm balls with a turbo controller overnight at the school tournament.

[@ARDIZsq]

@@alexspeedwagon3701 Sounds like a pretty hefty goal, but I'm sure with enough time it could be done. I think it'd be best to start with USUM to catch as many Pokemon there in Beast Balls since they're readily available, then seeing what's left to clean up in SWSH/SV before moving on to the new Gen 8 and 9 Pokemon. Right off the bat you can tell that pretty much every Mythical won't be available. Another potential problem could be with Vivillon's patterns, though I think you can breed while a postcard effect is active and get them that way instead of grinding out and using like 20 Beast Balls. Also thanks to SV, you can save scum to guarantee 1 Beast Ball per Pokemon. Good luck if you choose to pursue this goal. I'd get the jump on it now if I were you, just in case anything gets announced for Bank.

[@arandomcreatureontheinternet15]

@@alexspeedwagon3701 gen 8 raids are not guaranteed catches

[@alexspeedwagon3701]

@@arandomcreatureontheinternet15 well that's stupid. What are the oods?

[@arandomcreatureontheinternet15]

@@alexspeedwagon3701 pretty sure it depends on a few different factors, like if youre hosting or not, or if its like an event raid;otherwise i think its like, just normalish catch rates. I think dynamax adventures might be guaranteed though?

[@SpiralPoliFemboy]

A Shiny Zeraora was given out during a Pokémon Home event, but that event is over. Luckily, I have the Shiny Zeraora in my Home account.

[@jblen]

I had no idea furfrou was so rare. Why the hell did they make like 10 forms of a pokemon with only 20% apperance rate in a single route of a single game. Pokemon go isn't even much better, only having it during fashion week (which happens to be going on right now actually) but at least it's pretty common in that case.

[@alexspeedwagon3701]

Hi, you must be new here

[@IzraelGraves]

The idea was for players to catch one, then restyle it as they played.

[@jblen]

@@IzraelGraves then why not make it a common Pokémon so more people would catch one, or a more powerful Pokémon so people would want to keep using it rather than box it immediately?

[@IzraelGraves]

@@jblen I don't know, man. It was a gimmick. Every generation has one.

[@jblen]

@@IzraelGraves of course, but that doesn't make it better

[@RoseSupreme]

2:23 Or via a glitch in Gold and Silver. I did a glitch that turned a Shiny Gyarados I cloned into a Celebi - and due to being Shiny, it carried over to the Celebi, so it turned into a Shiny Celebi. I also got the Celebi from that Pokémon Bank event back when it launched. So I'm fine with not getting the Celebi from Crystal. Though created from a glitch, the Celebi is still considered legit as long as it's Level 30+ and knows moves it can learn, so I didn't hack to get it or anything.

[@davidgeese]

Oh I didn't know about that one, thanks for the info!

[@RoseSupreme]

@@davidgeese You're welcome. The video by PokeTips about the glitch has helped me out a great deal! You can do this well before the Elite Four, so it's really convenient.

[@SuperJxl]

hopefully we will get fan servers up if it does go down

[@joeytabora1052]

For anyone looking to speed certain things up, in gen VII you can learn level up moves at any level via heart scale. This does require you to make it to the pokemon center right before the elite four, but it can save a lot of level up time if you have a decent amount of heart scales.

[@squeebosh8525]

Also heart scales in SM/USUM are easy to stockpile because everyday you get a free meal at 2 restaurants with the Island Kahunas. Each meal is completely free and you get 4 heart scales.

[@Duskaria]

As long as PKHex exists, nothing will ever be lost.

[@ebbandfloatzel]

Notably, if Bank shuts down you lose a LOT of consistent RNG manipulation options. While I haven't done any myself, I hear a LOT of praise to easier shiny methods such as Chatot rng progression, the call system in HGSS, etc. There's also the really cool HGSS event pokemon, like the SHINY LEGENDARY DOGS.

[@Angelite1209]

I collected all pokemon that were available in the DreamWorld. I have been breeding them all in Gen6. For the ones that are Genderless, Male-only, or were Gender Locked as Male, i bred them in Gen7. Before Gen7 you couldn't pass the Father's pokeball to the babies, so as of Gen7 you could finally pass over DreamBall Pikachu, Elemental Monkies, Gen1-3-4 Starters, and all Male-only and Genderless pokemon.

[@greyzxa2389]

Are you interested in trading? I can clone Pokémon without a problem, so I could give you something legal and valuable too

[@Imliterallytamatoa]

@@greyzxa2389can you clone my German rattata?

[@greyzxa2389]

@@Imliterallytamatoa Yeh

[@fadhilmulyono9230]

After the Indigo Disk, this leaves only Patrat, the monkey trio, and Furfrou not obtainable on Switch at all

[@mds_main]

There's also the fact that, about Ash-Greninja, the SM demo only works with the og Sun and Moon games, not with the Ultra versions, and of course the demo is no longer legally available now. The Cap Pikachus codes instead only work with USUM. Also, I think there are some standard pokemon forms that are only available through Bank right now and that haven't been mentioned, like the Pokeball pattern Vivillon. I also think some ribbons will be lost and some "special" pokemons too, like the Glalie and Steelix you could get from the ORAS demo. Also, while the Nincada line is available in SwSh, it's worth pointing out that, just like Spinda, poor programming is keeping them from entering/exiting BDSP.

[@ZanahorioGaymes]

It's also very interesting to see people finding out about gen 4 and 5 DNS exploits this many years after the games came out. I didn't have wifi or other friends witha DS when I was a kid playing gen 4 so I used the DNS exploit constantly to fill out the dex. Very happy there's a renewed interest in it (even if the circumstances aren't... great), I've always found it super fun

[@Dunbit]

I am BEGGING them to bring bank back because I'm the kind to get sentimental about their pokemon and I want to bring them to newer games :(

[@SnoFitzroy]

wdym "bring it back" it literally still exists which is the point of the video?

[@getsu6293]

@@SnoFitzroy it is only there if you have downloaded it. i bought a 3ds this year which has no bank installed and i cant install it now so i am fucked unless i homebrew and that is just so annoying. no legit way to transfer through all generations is the stupidest thing they ever did

[@theredknight9314]

Good news. Most of the pokemon listed can now be caught in the indego disk Samething with alola and ALL starters and all legendaries and most mythicals

[@Benzinilinguine]

Me, on my second year of a shiny Celebi hunt on crystal, who is yet to encounter a shiny Celebi: 👁️👄👁️

[@Sonjya5]

Pokemon GO player here, the only regional pokemon locked to certain continents among the ones mentioned in the first section are Pansear, Pansage, and Panpour (and their respective evolutions as a result). There have been limited time events that allowed you to catch them anywhere in the world though. All the other non-mythical/non legendaries are in the game (except Minior), the only limitation being that it might depend on the specific season we are on. As for the legendaries, you can get Celebi, Victini, Meloetta (by completing their special research, which should be available to all players) and Genesect (this one is occasionally in raids, so you can obtain it only during specific times). You cannot currently get Diancie (unless you played during GO Fest this summer), Hoopa (unless you played in 2021 and got a special research which awarded it), Volcanion, Marshadow, or Zeraora (these 3 are not yet in the game).

[@Nocturnimancer]

Dude, bank was supposed to be IT. The last version of online storage we'd ever need, no more shifting around or updating...

[@POKENAR]

You know, when bank was first revealed, they sold it as a way to keep your pokemon forever, to even show your pokemon from years ago to your future children and grandchildren. It feels like they lost the original intent.

[@junihitomiya3182]

Randomly stumbled across you, this is 1st vid I've watched and I love it absolutely very informative and not rushed!!

[@theelementofsurprise5166]

It was really sad moving every single Pokémon out from my bank and into HOME. It was like their old home was destroyed and they couldn’t go back no matter what.

[@Moodyman90]

First video I've watched that talks about moves and abilities currently gone forever when Bank goes down. I've already done my big "catch everything I can and move it to Home" thing two years ago now after setting out to do it three years ago, but I didn't account for moves and the like. Through pure dumb luck I have most of them already, Trump Card, Powder, and Ion Deluge being the only moves I need to work hard to get. That said, thank you for this video and giving me another reason to go back and do a bit more clean up in the older games. I'd feel really stupid for not having Assist of all moves because I didn't level up Purrloin two more times or Steamroller because I didn't do the same with any of the Venipede line.

[@squidonglitter2320]

You are a godsend for compiling all of this info in one video! I'm in the middle of completing my HOME Dex and this will make my progress much smoother

[@paperbagman7515]

Completely wiping out the first 7 generations of games is just downright evil, it might be improbable with how many people still play modern Pokémon today, but I genuinely hope TPC goes under.

[@puppsicle9899]

This video is so well edited and put together! What an amazing job, and super helpful as well 🎉

[@legreedysqueegee]

We're singing the 3DS theme song! ALL ABOARD!!! LYRICS: Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me We pillage, we plunder, we rifle, and loot Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho We kidnap and ravage and don't give a hoot Drink up me 'earties, yo ho Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me We extort, we pilfer, we filch, and sack Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho Maraud and embezzle, and even high-jack Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me We kindle and char, inflame and ignite Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho We burn up the city, we're really a fright Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho We're rascals, scoundrels, villans, and knaves Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho We're devils and black sheep, really bad eggs Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me We're beggars and blighters, ne'er-do-well cads Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho Aye, but we're loved by our mommies and dads Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho

[@marc4008]

Also for celebi you don't have to reset your game to get more, you could clone it by using the trick where you close the game while saving (look it up if you want to do it), and once you transfer them to bank they will have different IVs and if each clone has different amounts of EXP, different natures too.

[@federicoguitin2054]

Thanks! I couldn't find any list of the moves and abilities unobtainable on the switch games! Great video

[@ThundaFuzz]

This is the kinda stuff I love. Relevant info with all sorts of tips and tricks. Definitely earned a sub my man.

[@razrv3lc]

I can’t believe they haven’t just made a PC program at this point. Sell an adapter that takes all the old cartridges from GBC to DS that connects via USB and be able to connect the program with your Home account. It feels like they’ve created a problem that shouldn’t be this hard to solve.

[@SnoFitzroy]

Two very minor and admittedly nitpicky corrections: Bank isn't exactly "forward compatible," more accurately HOME is _backwards_ compatible with Bank. You could argue these are the same thing, but since Bank wasn't developed with HOME in mind (the other way around is the case) I think it's merely worth noting, that's all. While region exclusives are a thing in GO, there are pretty frequent events that mitigate this. For example, Mega Kangaskhan is about to get another round of Raids, and since Kang is usually only available in Australia, this is an opportunity for the rest of the world to obtain it. We also get events that do stuff like making all the unova monkeys available in all regions, which i think has happened three times now? And most kanto celebration events bring all the kanto regionals worldwide for a while. I see why people don't want to count GO for many reasons but again worth noting that the region exclusive problem usually isn't a big deal, especially with trading being a thing (and if you're desperate, many spoofers are willing to trade regionals for pretty cheap and their location locked nature isn't a problem for those players.) Also GO is the only way to get Meltan registered in the main series

[@davidgeese]

Any and all corrections are welcome. You are correct on the backward compatibility part, that line of the script was more so about delivering a point in a clear way. I'll look for another way to communicate that point using more accurate terminology. I appreciate the information you can share on GO, this is definitely something worth mentioning, especially for those without access to decade old games like X and Y.

[@mds_main]

GO is also the only current way to transfer Furfrou's trims to Home unfortunately And without a GO transfer you cannot access Gigantamax Melmetal. Also, GO is pretty much required to get all the various Vivillon forms in ScVi.

[@manutd7194]

@@mds_main I've done it without Go but is a pain to do. Luckily on GTS on Home, you can trade for certain patterns which is nice, it essentially required trading Vivillon from X/Y which admittedly is tedious but possible.

[@IzraelGraves]

Go is also the only way to get the Wandering form of Gimmighoul.

[@SnoFitzroy]

@@mds_mainExactly. I can sometimes understand why main series players dislike this - GO is a free mobile game with a paid currency, which is a business model I totally understand people not liking. But the thing is, Niantic has never made a pokemon _species_ purchase-exclusive (forms and a couple shiny mythicals have been but tbh those are a little understandable to me. The devs need to eat. And also they usually get a free release after a while if it isn't mythical shiny, but most of the shiny mythicals have been freely available in go at least once) Essentially, the way I see it, GO being the only way to get some mons calls back the the 90s and 2000s where you had to have your gameboy, an N64, and a couple games for both to truly "catch em all." Except now those extra games are boiled down to one free game that you can play on your phone wherever you are. For MOST mythicals, it boils down to a Special Research story, requiring you to catch lots of pokemon, prove your aim accuracy, and complete certain in game achievements: Mew won't join you until you can prove to it you're worthy. Isn't this what you guys wanted? A whole story and quest to get mythicals instead of "here type this code"????

[@lucideirune1635]

Shiny Type Null, Shiny Manaphy, shiny Celebi, and shiny Poipole will no longer be able to be shiny hunted since in the later games, they are all shiny locked.

[@FrostedBasil]

Just love how Gamefreak went from understanding the sentimentality and nostalgia of its players and doing their best to respect the fanbase to not giving a burnt pork chop about the franchise or its quality control.

[@BlueJay73va]

It really hurts in a lot of ways that Pokemon Bank is closing. I still play through a lot of the older games going all the way back to Gen 3 (just finished another play through of Leaf Green the other day). It especially stings when you consider that so much of Bank's marketing back when it came out was all about how you'll always be able to bring up your pokemon from older games as long as you still have those old games. The awesome Shadow Lugia from XD? Bring it on up whenever you want to. Your very first starter from Ruby or Sapphire? They can come too. That shiny Gyarados from the Lake of Rage? Take it with you too. No need to rush either, they can always be brought up later. Also, it definitely feels like a big middle finger to all of us who have been shiny hunting Celebi in the Crystal VC with no luck. Like, what are we supposed to do if we just have really bad luck and don't get the shiny Celebi until after Bank goes down? I guess we're just fucked. This is just the newest in a long line of decisions that Nintendo has been making to the detriment of Pokemon fans everywhere.

[@RoseSupreme]

Also, I love that you're using a Super Smash Bros. Melee background for the video. It's such a soothing aesthetic, perfect for videos like this.

[@AlexsaurusRex]

This is BS, I have almost 500 hrs in ultra sun because the switch games don't speak to me. First game I've ever gotten the shiny charm in and the only game I've ever actually shiny hunted in.

[@BigLeek1998]

This is a great video, thank you for this because I know I needed it 😭

[@orlandoment]

Really appreciate this video, I was currently working on my living dex for Gen 7 and catching up with these missing stuff was very helpful

[@marmitetempest2699]

Something to note about gen 5 is that we know that the Snivy, Tepig and Blitzle lines will be coming to the switch with the release of the Indigo Disk next month

[@SaltedNeos]

The QR Scanner in Gen 7 is the only way to register several shiny locked Pokemon as shiny in Pokemon Home's Pokedex, as Pokemon Bank transfers all Pokedex entries from gen 6 and 7 games whenever you do a transfer.

[@Citizen5101]

This was a well made video and very informative. Subscribed

[@esralper00]

My biggest sadness is the cosplay pikachu from ORAS. You cant even transfer it to home.

[@Nephalem2002]

Bank is probably gonna get axed after they release Gen 10 or The Switch 2. Best way to save Bank is make it usable without Wifi and make it done through Wireless.

[@t3arki113r]

It may be hard, but it’d be nice if they could update bank to use the infrared and have the switch HOME detect it. Then just make bank an SD or local storage instead of a server host. Or make Bank local host and sell an adapter to have the 3DS signal become a switch signal for HOME to detect. Something at least…

[@Zarugoza5969]

BUT WAIT! You can get a Megearna from HOME when you have every Pokémon up from Gen 8 register lol

[@Mugiwara2k]

Very good deep dive! This will be helpful for me when it comes to completing my Home dex.

[@Ross516]

Losing that trading forwards that pokemon has had for decades boggles my mind.

[@vbun4662]

Currently going through all my old games and I had several copies of a lot of event pokemon between all my 3DS games. Feels pretty nice knowing I can transfer them all into Home now. And I feel even better after learning that a lot of these mythicals are just straight up unobtainable but I guess that's what gives them value in trading.

[@denvitar3128]

Multiple files for the elemental monkeys, they can be found in rustling grass in Lostlorn and Pinwheel forests.

[@TheBohobemeister]

Thank you for making this video!

[@michaelnelson1127]

I made a list of the Pokémon not available on the Switch towards the start of the year, and it was pretty similar. Thankfully they took the Sewaddle and Ducklett lines off the list with the Teal Mask, and with the ones confirmed for the Indigo Disk, that would be just 5 regular lines (Patrat, Furfrou, and the monkeys) left off the Switch…not counting mythicals. Yeah, those ones are definitely the wild cards in this process. Though I should note that there were distributions for a few of them on the Switch, like the shiny Zeraora raid, a GameStop distribution for Genesect, Volcanion, and Marshadow, and probably a couple others. But if you missed those, then yeah, there’s no legitimate way to get them yet. Though honestly, out of all of these, I’d say the most baffling exclusion right now is Furfrou, especially since its trims are currently only available in Go, and most of those are region-locked. I really hope that’s amended soon because I’m sick of them being treated as trade locks!

[@MrCowboy6588]

This is great info! I was going through my excel sheets for my living form dex and shiny dex to see what I needed from 3ds before the closure, but this video is going to make tracking them down to check if I have them MUCH easier. For me it just seems to make sense that Nintendo is going to have to bring the older gen games into the modern era on the switch in some way - find a way to do the ds and 3ds games digitally with 2 screens on the same screen or add a peripheral we can all buy like the wii U controller, something. They have - generally - been very good about making sure that the older games are preserved digitally and not just lost for newer players, so I'm eager to see what they do. If nothing else, I would expect them to fill the holes on switch (likely with a rumored and highly likely Gen 5 remake next year), and do another run of mythical events to help people get access to them, at some point sooner than later. Time will tell!

[@garchompelago]

This BS is why I am not in favor of the dexit that started in SwSh onwards. Now us completionist would have to deal with this.

[@PlatinumAltaria]

Not many completionists play on the Switch though for that reason, just get an emulator and enjoy!

[@christianmckee2116]

Dexit started in LGPE when you couldn't transfer back to SM and USUM and you could only have the Gen 1 Pokemon, their Megas, their Alolan forms, and the Meltan line

[@anonanonymous9670]

@@christianmckee2116 By that logic Black & White started the dexcut because you couldn't transfer Pokemon back to HGSS / Platinum and you could not transfer Spiky Eared Pichu into Black & White

[@christianmckee2116]

@@anonanonymous9670 LGPE straight up DOES NOT have compatibility with SM and USUM is my point. Despite all of them being in the same generation (before you make the argument that they're on different systems, remember that the Stadium duology could have complete connectivity with the Gen 1 and Gen 2 games, and that was back during the 90's and early 2000s). Also, despite Meltan and Melmetal being Gen 7 Pokemon, you couldn't use them PERIOD in the Alola games, which makes Gen 7 the first generation where all the Pokemon (at the time) can't be obtained in the same games, setting a precedent for Gen 8 and Gen 9 to follow suit.

[@anonanonymous9670]

@@christianmckee2116 "remember that the Stadium duology could have complete connectivity with the Gen 1 and Gen 2 games" Those are spin-offs and not even MADE by Gamefreak LGPE is a Gen 7 game but only by technicality, it's in such a weird spot that it shouldn't really count

[@Bloopbleeblah]

Love u so much for this list ugh

[@EtherTheReal]

I was offline for around 4 years and when i looked into bank it was completely empty. All my progress from gen 4 until gen 6 gone...absolutely devastating :( i had so many shinies and alot were legit aswell. I feel like ive lost connection to my younger self 😢

[@theflaminggroundon632]

I remember using an action replay for the dsi from a friend giving me it, man the memories of capturing people's pokemon n sorts were fun and transferring em to bank, but damn...

[@cosmicsvids]

To me it's just a game really and even if everything is gone I can just recreate my savefile using cheats since Pokemon games have basically the best save editing software ever.

[@OneClick2go]

​@cosmicsvids bro i know it is just a game , but most pokemon players are old and seeing these specific pokemons they played in their childhood gone , is just nostalgia killing ... At the end of the day why you need to goes through the waste time catching pokemons when there is pokemon showdown ?

[@scrittle]

You didn't pay the ransom fee. Sorry pal, but the hostages were disposed of when mafia Nintendo didn't get their next installment.

[@EtherTheReal]

@@scrittle thats what i thought too when i came to the realization. Like how hard could it be to store some MB? Such a scummy business man. All the memories i had just mercilessly deleted...

[@steegen101]

I'm shocked at how many iconic moves to this series are being abandoned

[@ajbXYZcool]

Hah! I bought Crystal (and Yellow) on my 3ds as impulse purchases so am surprised to see early in the vid that Crystal is necessary if I ever wanted to start a fresh living dex. Interested to see what exclusive content is locked there.

[@annarenfold438]

I'm so happy I'm not a completionist, but I saw that you could get a cool looking Magearna if you completed the Pokédex in Pokémon HOME... It just happens that is my favourite Pokémon from Gen7 and I hate that Nintendo and The Pokémon Company are making it so difficult for anyone to fill the Pokédex. I will never forget that the entire concept of Pokémon was gotta catch'em all. Now they're cutting moves and abilities, I know they've cut items and entire mechanics which in turn remove formes and variants, which only saddens me.

[@GreenDinoRanger]

I'm glad that I found this video. I better get to work asap

[@hsartulS]

its pretty sad seeing pokemon almost forget all this old stuff

[@Pownchao]

It's always so interesting for me to watch these. I started my living dex over a decade ago, so I'm caught up with every generation that comes, only catching new Pokémon with each game. I'm aware of all the options available for catching returning Pokémon, but it's usually nothing I care for. I'm just intrigued about how new generations of trainers are doing with their national dex journey starting out now.

[@incognitobandito244]

I could probably do it, but what's the point? I have a 3ds with Poke transfer and pokebank and games going back to platinum but why bother? It's just going to be Home closing in 5 years instead and by then I'll be pushing 30 and have forgotten. My brother had the living dex going for a while and stopped paying attention around the time S/M came out so im sure his bank got nuked and it had pokemon older than me.

[@TheZombo]

It’s so nice seeing how many of these returned with the new dlc

[@DSmittie]

This is a really interesting vid to revisit post PLZA announcement. PLZA will very likely have a large chunk of these pokemon that are locked to 3ds titles, so their plan is to probably keep releasing home compatible games until every Pokemon is represented on switch, then shut down bank a month later

[@thedragonemperor0084]

I’d also love a shiny locked list. Aside from the normal mons in the video which is just a matter of time until they can be put into a game. Currently I believe it’s any new legends for the switch games, most mythicals, Cosmog, and Cosmoem you can’t get outside of events. Type: Null, Silvally, Poipole, Naganadel, Celebi from crystal, Jirachi from the coliseum bonus disk, are all currently shiny huntable, but will be unobtainable outside of events when bank shuts down. Technically you can shiny hurt Mew from faraway island, Deoxys from birth island, Darkrai and Shaymin in either Platinum or BDSP but those required events to access. And we’re not gonna talk about Manaphy. I believe that’s all of them. Any others I missed?

[@enoyna1001]

Shaymin and Darkrai were only officially available in Pt (not DP), so Pokémon Bank most likely will block them caught in DP from transfering.

[@thedragonemperor0084]

@@enoyna1001 Thanks for the info. Honestly didn’t know that.

[@JPOFett]

​@@enoyna1001Doesn't block them. I have a Darkrai from Diamond via action replay walk through walls. Still have him in home currently

[@thedragonemperor0084]

@@JPOFett You wouldn’t even need cheats. Just tweeking with the bike and going through the void would let you reach their area. But for this I had ignored glitches. With arbitrary script execution alone you’d be able to get anything from Gen 1-4. I don’t know when that was patched though.

[@enoyna1001]

@@JPOFett nice thx

[@Jlaps941]

The easiest way to get Galvanize Alolan Geodude/Graveler/Golem and Power of Alchemy Grimer/Muk is to transfer one of those from an Gen 1 or 2 virtual console game (since they always have their hidden ability from a VC game if they have one, which both lines do) and breed them in Alola, which will still get the hidden ability chance as long as that parent is female or breeding with a Ditto. This way you don’t have to SOS chain in Alola which can be tedious to know if it even has the hidden ability and take a while anyway, or waste an ability patch in Scarlet/Violet which aren’t the easiest to obtain. It also just makes it easier if you want multiples with the hidden ability

[@lkeblock1662]

This video was super helpful! I'm glad Crystal was the only VC game needed because it's the only one I got. I only got my 3ds like a year ago and have since gotten a few pokemon games second hand that I've yet to play. Guess I better get grinding. Shame Nintendo has such little care for game preservation, I really hope one day they bring old pokemon games back as VCs

[@Mrperson0]

I can't imagine TPCi not giving us at least a year's notice before shutting down Pokemon Bank... Watch them announce on March 31, 2024 that Pokemon Bank will shut down a year later.

[@whydewucare]

you can get the Kalos starters in SV. they were in event raids and there's people that are breeding the heck out of theirs to send to people that missed out on the events and to get shinies in the johto balls

[@wombatpandaa9774]

I really hope that this means the Switch 2 will have a similar app and all un-remade games on Virtual Console or NSO be compatible with it, and not that TPC and Nintendo aren't just leaving us hanging.

[@Dani-Claw]

Always hoping, but always skeptical and ready to be let down again. It sucks being at this point in life to see my favorite franchises get absolutely gutted

[@jacobesterson]

Still scummy because that'd effectively force everyone who already has a physical copy to buy the game a second time. That might actually be the intention.

[@ZombieZebra3]

It’s worth noting that in Pokemon Go every so often they release regional exclusives for bigger events. This past Go Fest they had Carnivine and Pachirisu in eggs. And Kangaskhan is in mega raids right now. But it’s also true that the full National Pokedex has also not been released in game yet. And some Pokemon are (frustratingly) likely not to be released again anytime soon. Like Zarude. I’d say people should keep it an option to fill some holes, but don’t rely on it completely.