Caledonian Sleeper Train - CLASSIC Room Review - but can you actually SLEEP?

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[@steve-marsh]

Fantastic update mate, shows exactly how the true experience is, but 4 hours ain't enough for me! And no breakfast is particularly stingy, but I do still love it!

[@RogEdwardsTV]

Cheers Steve! Hope to do the Night Riviera at some point too! 😀

[@Eurobazz]

I always carry BluTac with me. It would have solved your bright light button problem. I need a completely dark room and I usually place a small piece of it over the red light showing on the TV in the hotel room or ferry cabin. One thing I can't and won't do though is hide the green light of the smoke alarm which I don't feel is so problematic.

[@RogEdwardsTV]

@@Eurobazz ha ha, genius. 😂

[@Alan.92n]

Hi Rog. Yes the sleeper cabins are expensive. Used to get the sleeper from Glasgow to Euston, Club Room. With the Senior Railcard, got a bit off! Now travel from Alnmouth to Kings X, during the day. Never had a great sleep, but the sleeper worth it, so you have a full day in London. Always enjoyed my coffee, bacon roll, fruit juice, before leaving the train! 😊 👍

[@RogEdwardsTV]

It’s a pity Euston is such a dump to arrive in. Would be much nicer if it was Kings Cross or St Pancras! 😂

[@iam433]

The original sleeper was equal to the current train, however it was usually £30 but with the possibility of sharing with a stranger. I’ve used the current trains but think only the Fortwilliam portion comes anywhere near value for money at 13 hours. However it is good to see the trains regularly full as it keeps the service alive. Nice review mate

[@RogEdwardsTV]

Thanks very much! 😀

[@sammiller8471]

I did the London to Fort William in October was definitely a great choice doing the full length journey. The beds were surprisingly comfortable. If the prices were lower, I would do the trip again and again loved it.

[@RogEdwardsTV]

The Fort William leg certainly has some impressive scenery. Great to have breakfast as the sun comes up and you catch sight of deer in the fields. 😀

[@elizabethferrier6429]

Always wanted to travel on a sleeper train. Love the idea of listening to the train whilst travelling through the night. On my bucket list.

[@RogEdwardsTV]

It definitely has a certain charm! Thanks for watching! Much appreciated. 😀

[@philsgaming8715]

Love your videos. I noticed that you were looking at somewhere to have breakfast. I go to the Double Six Cafe on Eversholt Street at the side of Euston station.

[@RogEdwardsTV]

Thanks so much and for the tip. I ended up at The Piccolo Café near Euston. I’ll look at the Double Six next time! 😀

[@alexmcwhirter6611]

Appreciated your latest KZbin, Roger. Some travel vloggers have, as you might expect, covered Cal Sleeper already. But your unique style has set this one apart from the others. I agree that more food ought to have been provided for in-cabin breakfast. I am sure all sleeping car (not couchette) travellers taking OEBB's Nighjet are served a full (cold) Continental Breakfast.

[@RogEdwardsTV]

Thank you Alex - appreciate your support. I know it's a well worn topic but I was keen to have another go (one of my earliest videos was of the original trains over 6 years ago). No breakfast for the Classic Rooms does feel like penny pinching given the fares now. 😀

[@thatsme1268]

Years ago (in days of yore- remember them? circa 1980's ) I remember getting the "Night Rider" trains between London and Dundee. You basically got your seat and the seat opposite you as part of your booking. It was up to you to bring your own blanket etc. That was very uncomfortable and I never slept on those journeys. I then found "sleeper car journeys" and these were great as you got a bed complete with sheets/blankets and I was able to get a good sleep. These were two bed cabins (top/bottom bunks) and if there were two of you in your group then that was ok. However, if you were travelling alone you stood the risk of some-one from your same gender group being assigned the other bunk by the train operator. You didn't know until another traveler turned up at the cabin whether you were sharing or not. Many times I started my journey alone in the cabin with the train leaving the station only to be woken up by a fellow traveler a hundred miles down the line joining the train. Looking back I supposed it added to the fun of it.

[@RogEdwardsTV]

I remember the "sharing with strangers" cabins from my days working in Big Corporate. Fortunately they usually sent us "First Class" which was basically the same cabin but without the random stranger!

[@thatsme1268]

@@RogEdwardsTV Lucky you I was doing it out my own pocket.

[@red.guevarra]

Our good old Amtrak here in the US also offers a similar "roomette" cabin on the 9-hour night service from Omaha to Denver for about the same price (solo) but it comes with breakfast on board. I take that journey regularly in coach seating. I might do the roomette someday, but with points. And when I do it in the UK, I'll be sure to poke Daddy Rog's belly haha! Poke! - Red

[@RogEdwardsTV]

Thanks for watching, Red! 😀

[@craigclark1000]

We were happy to take the Sleeper from London to Edinburgh last September. Pricing seems like a deal for 2, we paid about 375 for the two of us, which was much cheaper than 2 plane tickets and a hotel. And......trains > planes

[@RogEdwardsTV]

It’s certainly better value if there are two travellers! Thanks for watching. 😀

[@LauraGargiulo]

thanks for the video and thanks for the little wander around Edinburgh

[@RogEdwardsTV]

Thanks for watching, Laura. Much appreciated! 😀

[@andrewvannan1714]

This is something I need to do, since I did oldskool first group sleeper trains

[@RogEdwardsTV]

I’d be interested in your views once you’ve given it a go. A lot of people feel the ride was better on the old trains…🤔

[@herschell64]

I'll be going on the sleeper on 12th May in a club room which cost me £168.30 which includes my Disabled Railcard discount

[@RogEdwardsTV]

Hope you have a good trip. Let me know how you get on and what you think! 😀

[@herschell64]

@@RogEdwardsTV I enjoyed it, was food was good, the haggis and the breakfast in the club car, didn't get much sleep though was thankful for the 2 hours in lounge as needed to wait to see if could early check inn at Premier Inn London Euston which I did, will probably just stick to LNER in future though

[@RogEdwardsTV]

Great stuff, Ben. Glad you had a good trip! Thanks for the update. 🙌

[@herschell64]

@@RogEdwardsTV no problem

[@gftyhify]

I haven’t travelled on a sleeper train for over 20 years. I remember I was able to sleep but I did wake up frequently

[@RogEdwardsTV]

I think that’s it in a nutshell. Intermittent sleep! Do you fancy giving it another go in the newer coaches? 😀🤔

[@gftyhify]

@@RogEdwardsTV maybe one day I will when I’ve saved up. I would like to try the night riviera from London to Penzance sometime too.

[@RogEdwardsTV]

The Night Riviera is a bucket-list thing for me! Cheers! 😀

[@gftyhify]

@@RogEdwardsTV I think the night riviera would also be more comfortable too as I’ve heard a lot of people complain that the seats on the daytime GWR class 800 high speed train used on that route are really hard and uncomfy.

[@RogEdwardsTV]

The seats on the GWR 800s are the same as on the LNER Azumas. Concrete ironing boards. Very uncomfortable. 😔

[@Bobrogers99]

I've watched other videos of the Caledonian Sleeper, and the experience gets mixed reviews. Some find the sounds and motions of the train keep them awake, and the cabin and/or shower water temperature is sometimes uncontrollable. But almost everyone is glad that they did it once. It would cost the railroad very little to provide a more complete breakfast to all sleeper classes. For what it costs, many people who take the Sleeper are expecting a more luxury experience than they get.

[@RogEdwardsTV]

I think the marketing at the time they launched the new coaches went OTT on the luxury hotel angle and raised expectations very high. You’re right about the noises. I stayed in a Club Room a few years back and you could hear the waste water from the shower/toilet sloshing around under the cabin - that kept me awake. ☺️ Thanks for watching!

[@MC-ov8dr]

It very much feels like a budget hotel rather than something luxury. I enjoyed my experience and if I had to travel overnight I would absolutely do it again. But my expectations weren't very high thanks to the youtube videos. I slept well, washed up with lukewarm water in the shower, and had a small meal in the morning after landing in Edinburgh. Perfectly serviceable

[@RogEdwardsTV]

Thanks for sharing! 😀

[@JettTyler17]

I'm hoping to do the Sleeper later in 2024 myself as a "one-off", I'm very much an Airplane person when it comes to travel, but I would love to do this solely just to say I've done it.

[@RogEdwardsTV]

Has to be done at least once Jett. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. 😀

[@imogenharrison3432]

An hour here, an hour there. You usually arrive in the morning feeling like you have been in a car crash.

[@RogEdwardsTV]

😂 So very true!

[@rossstewart3977]

It's great you started at my train station in my village of wallyford

[@RogEdwardsTV]

I live just up the road so most of my trips start at Wallyford! 😀

[@rossstewart3977]

​@@RogEdwardsTVwhere do you live

[@RogEdwardsTV]

Just outside of Tranent! ☺️

[@Trainzat]

The sleepers are amazing

[@RogEdwardsTV]

It’s a great way to travel, with a bit of mystique too! 😀

[@walterfillingham]

I don’t really get the purpose of it between Edinburgh and Glasgow to London, when it’s such a quick journey, compared to coming from Aberdeen, Inverness or Fort William where it makes much more sense. I’m just not convinced about the sleeper with its price, though I do know it is popular, perhaps value when you have a cabin and bed, but not value if on the dreaded seats..

[@RogEdwardsTV]

I only think the Lowland Sleeper made sense when the price was cheaper than a flight/train plus a hotel room. The company I worked for back in the 1990s used to send us on the sleeper for that reason. Doesn’t work now the prices are so high. ☺️

[@Lambofan147]

Have just booked for Friday in a classic room. £166.50 with a railcard discount. Hoping it is delayed by an hour so I can get a 50% refund as it doesn’t seem like it’s worth that much! 🤞🏽

[@RogEdwardsTV]

Hope you enjoy it! Let me know what you think! 😀

[@davidsaxon8660]

I'm in a classic room on march 21 when I go to fort William and I paid £151.10 for my room after my senior railcard discount

[@RogEdwardsTV]

Enjoy your trip! Thanks for watching and do let me know what you think! 🚊😀

[@Briselance]

Does the Caledonian do the trip from London to Edinburgh, per chance?

[@RogEdwardsTV]

As I was going down to London there was one coming the other way. We would have passed each other during the night. This is the Lowland Sleeper. There is also a Highland Sleeper which serves London to and from Aberdeen, Inverness and Fort William. 😀

[@RushfanUK]

How much would it cost to fly from Edinburgh, travel in from Heathrow and stay in a hotel in central London, it would be interesting to do as a comparison.

[@RogEdwardsTV]

I guess you could come up with quite a wide range of costs depending upon when you fly and what type of hotel you choose. BA flights from EDI to LHR are very expensive at peak times. Thanks for watching. 😀

[@fatwalletboy2]

I think the lighting in the club car is far too bright......you want lighting that sets the body and mind up for sleep but thats really going to do the opposite.

[@RogEdwardsTV]

Agree. Harsh lighting seems to be a thing with these newer train carriages. 🤔

[@twosixfour570]

just out of interest Roger, what is it that keeps you in Edinburgh so much?

[@RogEdwardsTV]

We’ve lived here for 30 years! 😀

[@DavidJones-lz4io]

The pandemic has stopped them stowing the bed for passengers (solo) occupancy? What possible reason could there be for that I wonder?

[@RogEdwardsTV]

Lower service standards during the pandemic and then they realise that they save time and money not changing the berth configurations - so now it’s the norm to leave them in twin mode. Shame. ☺️

[@harveyfleming9572]

is your youtube video is at musselburgh racecourse today rog edwards tv?

[@RogEdwardsTV]

‘Fraid not 😂.

[@ralphwatt8752]

Pricing themselves out.of the market

[@RogEdwardsTV]

They are mainly aiming at the wealthy tourist market now, I think.🤔

[@tezzah...]

Don't lie, you had 2 bottles

[@RogEdwardsTV]

😂😂 Well technically as they were miniatures, I reckon I had half a bottle! 😂😂

[@keepgoing1973]

Too expensive, waste of time video

[@RogEdwardsTV]

Well thanks for watching anyway!

[@pauljorgensen6608]

Overpriced

[@RogEdwardsTV]

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