Caliburn - Caliburn EVO Points - Push Fit with Tool - Starter Kit Review

[@norgeball3971]

I really like the idea of that system but initially thought 'wait for some reviews before buying'. Thanks for sharing your experience here👍

[@darrenhurrell]

It’s easier to ignore the repointing tool adapter and just install the spigot attached to the point with the repointing tool. You can then get them out easier and replace easier.

[@NeilsDarts]

Good point mate

[@darrenhurrell]

@@NeilsDartsmine arrived yesterday and I thought that adapter bit didn’t look strong enough. I’m glad I didn’t use it after watching your video. How on earth is that supposed to be strong enough for getting the points in or out. I just used the repointer tool and that points with their spigot on and they went in fine.

[@norgeball3971]

@@darrenhurrellsame thing I asked myself while watching the videos provided by dartscorner on how to get the spigots in: why the 'repointing tool' bit when you can just push them in with the regular points which they come attached to. Thanks for mentioning it mate!👍

[@darrenhurrell]

@@norgeball3971I it’s a no brainer mate isn’t it Glad you feel the same way as I do haha

[@knutvoberg4236]

The only advantage of using the adapter seems to me, that you maybe have no gap with the points with built in tridents and with the other ones that all 3 points have exactly the same length outside the barrel ...

[@rkisf90]

Think I’ll wait until it gets updated. Was looking forward to it though.

[@Aexeq]

I ordered 2 sets to try last night. Now I saw your video and asked Darts Corner to cancel my order. I just don't have an old set of darts laying around I wouldn't mind to potentially ruin. Big Thanks for the quick review though!

[@TheScottishCowboy]

Unfortunately i did voice my concerns on Darts Corners video that it may break, but now that has broken, you have no way of removing the spigot from your darts, i would like to see if once you remove the spigot, does a normal point still sit tight in the barrel, or has the spigot slightly widened the hole. Good review bud

[@Chelskie-darts]

I think a normal point would sit loose inside the nose end if a spigot had to break in it once it’s removed , and I’m basing that theory simply on the amount of changes of points I’ve made with my pl15’s …. I need to use lock tight with any points I use now to make sure they stay in solid , it is a good concept but ye your point is very valid mate not to mention if any cross threading occurs 😬

[@matt_dobson0614]

Could you not screw a point onto the spigot and then remove both point and spigot at the same time using a repointing tool, like you would with a normal point?

[@Chelskie-darts]

@@matt_dobson0614 : depends were the spigot snaps/breaks mate

[@grantpeck]

You can as this is what I did to remove the spigot from same darts that were not deep enough.​@@matt_dobson0614

[@matt_dobson0614]

@@Chelskie-darts True, if the spigot itself breaks you're a bit screwed. But here it's the tool that's broken; should still be able to get it out by screwing a point onto the spigot and then removing both like a normal point, no?

[@tenseken]

So the point installer should be made of hardened steel cause that thing will be used again and again and eventually will break hope an update will be in the works but I like the idea

[@marcvervuren8435]

An innovative solution to removable dart points! But it obviously needs improvement. Maybe start with lubrication: putting a wee drop of oil might help unscrewing the repoint-tool part of the system. (To the manufacturer: change to a stronger material for the repoint-tool.)

[@ashleystone4266]

I was looking forward to this as it is s game changer for people that don't have target darts. This review has changed my mind on it a bit. 🤔 Might have to wait a little to see what caliburn do about that insertion tool. Great review mate 👍🏼🎯

[@gordonskinner6400]

I’ll wait & see how these develop, seeing as you had some issues. Cheers for the insight though.

[@lovethedarts9522]

The broken insertion tool and mess it made of your fingers has convinced me to stick to either normal repointing, which is easy enough, or buy Swiss point.

[@WeeIslay]

Great review Neil. Think they'll need to look at the spigot tool and maybe they'll need to strengthen it up some how. Hope you didn't buckle your fingers with the palaver of having to remove the tool. fantastic honest review buddy 👍

[@grantpeck]

Nice review and my experience of fitting these points yesterday almost mirrors yours. I didnt break the spigot tool but the force needed to drive these in it dosnt surprise me you did. One set of darts were not drilled deep enough so I removed them. Second set were just deep enough but a lot of force was needed to get them to bottom out. Once fitted to a compatable set of darts they are nice but there is the rub. These points are not going to fit properly in all darts.

[@one_eight_zero]

Mine broke but found that did not need the special device to get them in and entered the others without issues and able change points all without the spigot

[@justinress2782]

I think you will be better off, using the no lip points to get the spigot in. This way you will also get the spigot in consistently, but you won’t have the issue with the tool. Or am I wrong here?

[@rossrobson91]

Sounds spot on, good thinking.

[@rossrobson91]

So my spigot tool snapped on the second point, tried just putting in with the spigot in the point and it bent the point right up so it’s easy to see now why the spigot tool is needed because the hollow part of the point where it screws in is quite weak, had to order some more spares now, will definitely use a bit of oil when the replacements come. They’ve now taken them down off the website, what a shambles 🙈

[@NeilsDarts]

Thanks for sharing the info bud

[@MidLifeMercenary-xn7wt]

to be honest, unless you have custom darts i would stick with some target darts with swiss points. so much easier and the dart range is phenomenal

[@andrewwickstead3802]

Think will stick to the Swiss points…….they are great quality now and target darts make some of the best darts anyway

[@Krowalsch]

Withour testing it myself: How are you changing Points by simply uncsrewing it, when the point has the same diameter of the hole in the dart? Youd have to use the repointer to remove them in this case. So i guess that the point itself is a tiny bit thinner than the tool. Putting in the spigot with the point seems convenient, but i guess the risk of pressing it in not aligned correctly might be higher. Just guessing there.

[@garethjohnston5963]

Can you just put them in an out using the points rather than the spigot tool?

[@NeilsDarts]

Probably, would be a lot simpler, unsure why the tool is needed after thinking about it the last day

[@STEVEC2302]

Just wondering if a slight bit of "hairclipper oil" would help to slightly lubricate it and make it easier ?

[@alanross1767]

Why not just change points with the point puller,like we used to, before this system?

[@knutvoberg4236]

Is the question meant seriously - in other words: do you really not yet understand the advantages that such a system would have if it worked properly? Or are you just someone from the "everything-was-better-before-why-do-you-have-to-change-things-at-all bubble"? Then just say so and don't put this attitude in a question ... Obviously there are only people here who find the system interesting. Nobody intends to equip your darts with it against your will. So, there's nothing for you to see here - please move on! PS: Fun fact, the tool you suggest using is also used in this video so that you don't have to use it all the time afterwards because it's far too inconvenient, for example on an evening in the pub - ooops, I've already given one of several possible answers to your rhetorical question ...

[@darrenaddison7512]

Can u just buy points & install them without the starter kit if u already have a re pointing tool?

[@NeilsDarts]

You probably could but I’ve not seen anyone just putting them in yet or if there is any issues doing so

[@anthonybakker2567]

So . . . much like the Swiss Point system from Target, once you go this route you are locked into using Evo points.

[@alanpowell4655]

The issue I would have is if the barrel of the darts are different in each one, then your points will be at different lengths. Had this happened to you?

[@NeilsDarts]

They should be in same depth but you do get some that go in deeper or the hole is slightly bigger

[@alanpowell4655]

@NeilsDarts what if you got the ones that eliminated the lip? These didn't go all the way in on your darts. That would mean if you got the ones with the lip, then there would be a gap resulting in them not fitting. Thanks for the reply.

[@alanpowell4655]

Just a quick update, Neil, My Evo starter kit and points arrived today. You would think this would be an exciting time, but no! I went for the points that eliminate the lip, ine fitted perfect, but after that, it all went disastrously wrong! The tool you used to put the little spigot in wouldn't go all the way in after the first use, so I had to try with the points that came with the kit. This was OK for the second point, or so it seemed, the lip didn't reach the barrel, meaning it left a small gap. The third one bent the point and snapped off inside my dart barrel, leaving me with no darts for my league game on Thursday. Absolutely fuming. Seams this concept isn't ready for the market just yet and needs further testing. I have reached out to darts corner, but I'm still waiting for a reply.

[@NeilsDarts]

@@alanpowell4655 oh mate that’s not good, they’ve removed it from there website now it’s clearly not ready to be used. Hopefully they get in touch soon mate if not contact Caliburn on social media

[@alanpowell4655]

@NeilsDarts have they really? Can't say I'm surprised. Strange but you can still purchase the points.

[@ianallcock]

Not for me seems way too time consuming I think ill stick to swiss points. Had my andersons comverted to swiss points and they are bang on.

[@Aexeq]

Wait, you can convert darts to swiss point? I think having a solution that works in all darts without super special equipment is definitely a step in the right direction, but not if it is based on luck, if it goes in as deep as needed and the tool snaps. Now for the Swiss Points, do you have some recommendable resources to link for such a conversion?

[@aarongregory9537]

Where are the darts from. I want a set

[@NeilsDarts]

My customs mate don’t have any left

[@aarongregory9537]

Oh they are a nice set

[@Stephenlarmour]

Does the spigot come out again or is it stuck in for gd when installed?

[@NeilsDarts]

No you can remove it just by reversing the process

[@Stephenlarmour]

@@NeilsDartsjust heard that at the end! Cheers mate

[@Victor-it6bv]

Looks like extra work to repoint

[@alanpowell4655]

I wouldn't recommend just yet. See updated comments.

[@anoniemanoniem5114]

Ypubhave magnetic darts. Look at the way they attract

[@russchamberlain536]

I really like the idea but unfortunately I can see these being a pain in the arse if you either bend or snap your point I’ll stick to targets Swiss points much simpler concept

[@nationofmorons6018]

Too much hollow inside these points - will be breaking often

[@tomgengar]

Makes no sense to me . Seems as bad version of swiss points lol . Would be better to create barrel cut tool lol

[@anoniemanoniem5114]

Bye bye balance😅