"CALL US IF YOU GET A SOUTHERN ARTIST!!!" TDE PUNCH TALKS LEAVING WARNER BROTHERS WITH J ROCK...

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[@floridababy974]

As someone from the Deep South (Florida) all I want to say is I hate the notion that we don't value lyricism or have artists that want to be lyrical. We're trapped in these boxes by mainstream DEMANDS and INDUSTRY standards and values. We want to see more bar-heavy rappers succeed because it'll open a lane for all four region's lyricists to THRIVE.

[@jman1562001]

at that time the South was pumping the Crunk and Snap Era rappers so if you weren't doing that, then you weren't getting a look. It always takes an artist or collective to BLOW UP before the doors for others open. It's why in the 90s Outkast had to come all the way correct to get RESPECT. T.I. even had to really work before the doors opened for him. Wayne benefited from the Hot Boyz momentum and working with NY rappers like Dipset thru the mixtapes prior till his blowup.

[@floridababy974]

@@jman1562001 Lil Wayne said himself they wanted him to dumb his style down to appease the club music 💩 Outkast dropped ATLiens GooDie MOB dropped Soul Food These are true classics no different from Ready To Die, College Dropout, Late Registration, and Soul On Ice (Ras Kass) The media and entertainment industry just full of 💩 and want everyone to act out stereotypes and caricatures

[@jman1562001]

@@floridababy974 yes this true and I wish rappers would call out these executives black and white who encourage that silly ignorance. They can diss other rappers, get at these paper pushers and put them on front street to answer for the fuckery.

[@Jonathanfifer00]

J cole should have debunked that theory 😂 but even before him y’all had Wayne

[@SoulOfTheSouth]

@@jman1562001 Lyricism was already in the south before Outkast. Me being from Texas, Geto Boys (1989-1991), UGK (1992), Rap-A-Lot and Suavehouse Records in Houston was deep into lyricism before the DJ Screw & Screwed Up Click era (95-96). Then came 1993 when Eightball & MJG was on Suavehouse then came Outkast (1994) and Goodie Mob (1995) added the icing to the cake. I think of those artists when it comes to lyricism in the south.

[@zl5464]

I saw Tech N9ne in 2011 right after Jay Rock signed to Strange. Kendrick was Jay Rock's HYPE man. I copped Section.80 and knew K.Dot had potential to be great. Not many people remember/know that the label was pushing Jay Rock first and Kendrick was on the back burner.

[@mkirkpatri02]

Saw that tour too!

[@mkirkpatri02]

All of TDE was signed to strange at some point as well according to them.

[@doncardi8699]

Y'all remember when Charles Hamilton was trying to battle Serius Jones? Y'all didn't know Serius had his arm around Kendrick while he was getting at Charles.

[@lochofmceo]

Huh ? What was Kendrick doing in Harlem or Jersey wherever that was

[@kingtaylor9362]

@@lochofmceo Kendrick was there. It’s on KZbin I think of Kendrick and Charles free-styling together.

[@almostwoke2152]

I remember that

[@gamefantasticcuz]

J Rock was there too and Kendrick started spitting as well I remember when turn me up came out and I put two and two together shit fucked me up because I always wondered what happened to J Rock after I heard the Wayne song on MTV Jams

[@MarvelousJP]

@@lochofmceo Kendrick and Jay Rock spent ALOT of time in NY 07-09 videos are on KZbin. There’s videos of them in studio with Grafh, on the block with some bloods (Jay Rock is from BountyHunters so he plugged in) & believe it or not there’s old pics of them back then cooling with Papoose. Long before the Control fiasco

[@ezabackhome]

I always loved "All My Life" with Wayne instead of will I am. Jay Rock was the first one up

[@gamefantasticcuz]

Wasn’t KDot on the hook originally

[@ezabackhome]

@@gamefantasticcuz that's what I meant to say lol

[@bigj6706]

For Math to come at Mase like that and then say he didn't see Mase reply is wrong. You shouldn't speak on it if you didn't do your research about it. Some people will just always dislike Mase even when he does right.

[@freewill9457]

No one cares about the truth if the lie is more entertaining

[@davidmpr5279]

💯

[@vincentq21vq]

I remember that, all my life song by Jay rock. Shit was dope but it fizzled out quick. Should've been a radio hit.

[@itsyaboi3254]

bro . Did y’all here what punch said ? That video he did with J rock . The SAME DAY. Same day … Wayne did the a milli video and in the bank with t pain . Bruh …. Wayne’s a Pioneer. This podcast is fucking crazy

[@wavy1148]

“Bro”….get off your knees 🍆🌈 and have some dignity 🤣😂🤣

[@Niwde8411]

How does filming a bunch of music videos in one dey make one a pioneer?

[@ddemetryy2292]

I’d say since they all came out , relatively same time period. He’s a pioneer, he’s the Apex

[@Niwde8411]

That doesn't make him a pioneer. Look up the definition of the word because y'all are getting it mixed up with dickridin'.

[@MookMeen-pd7me]

Math Mase cleared all that up on million dollars worth of game,go check it out

[@MarvelousJP]

I’m surprised they don’t seem to remember that Jay Rock record w Wayne. I was in 7th grade & remember MTV Jams had it in heavy rotation

[@cameronmoses8252]

Same here, they played that shit all the time.

[@Jonathanfifer00]

That all my life track was a hit when it came out , and I remember Kendrick telling the story about how they followed wayne for that feature lol

[@smileylundy33]

Kendrick said seeing Wayne freestyle his verse changed his whole view of how he made music.. history

[@jamesjones-ez9ug]

Didnt mase have receipts for the fivio situation?

[@Hiphop_Love]

He did

[@jamesjones-ez9ug]

@@Hiphop_Love So what is math and them talking about then?

[@nerosiegel903]

all my life(in the ghetto) was a big record regardless, funnily enough that Jay Rock was the flagship artist before Kung Fu Kenny... but crazy that the record didn't the push that it needed and still did well... Atleast that was the driving force for them to say fk the middle man as well, cause they couldn't market their roster properly

[@dav1ll3]

I still bang it

[@jasonjones2137]

Because when J Rock came out. The south was on 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@brianturner4760]

Wayne gave Jay rock two verses That was a '08 Wayne too

[@constantina348]

I remember that Wayne and J Rock song/video

[@lifewithplayboy8682]

I remember All my life song and video add much respect J rock and weezy F for that.

[@trinitrap8496]

“Like ma$e and that 500” while he looks at the camera 🧐😂🤣 math 💯 and funny as shit

[@leobishoptv7565]

J Rock last album a classic

[@skabzemortal]

Now they got a bonafide southern Legend with Zaywop

[@gagedimdiman2774]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@kingryan18]

This gotta be when jay rock was signed to strange music

[@clientele732]

I saw Kendrick’s first performance in Philly at a sneaker pimps event freeway brought him out….

[@bonesdaily1354]

NICE 🤙

[@mrjames851]

You can say Wayne doesn't need TDE's money but years later he was chasing Birdman for money he had never received. Business is business. You don't get free butter from the grocery store. You don't get a free car from the dealership. You're realtor friend is not gonna give you a house on the love or for promo. The music industry is ass backwards and wonders why the money is fucked up.

[@StealthySZN]

Man we need smart back on here 💯

[@m9wkzsouthcentral270]

Facto he be wildin sometimes but he be on point n ain’t scared to keep it a buck…he a TRUTH TELLER FRFR N GOOD FOR THE SHOW AND A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE FOR GOOD CONVERSATION

[@tadah21]

Smart needs his own show honestly he would challenge these cats sensibilities to much

[@bryantpatterson1011]

Smart can't come back bro lol

[@jamesjones-ez9ug]

@@bryantpatterson1011 what did he do?

[@MA-vc5ls]

Faxx imagine he with this ep😂dam

[@MoSHus]

That Jay Rock all my life was 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@NeverDoubtTheWorm]

Woah it’s weird that movie studio drama effects the direction of music too

[@DOTTAisKING]

Tell punch ima southern artist... Okc.. The most untapped market

[@mrjames851]

And whether or not Mase was active in Fiveo's ascent, the contract entitles him to a percentage of his earnings, for as long as the contract states, in exchange for whatever amount of money was given initially. Maybe if Mase understood that, he wouldn't do goofy shit like jumping back and forth between being a pastor and a gangsta rapper for the money, and he might not be so vile towards Puff as if every white executive wouldn't have given him the same agreement or worse, and without being an artist brand like Puff to enhance his career on the way up. Jimmy Iovine couldn't jump in your video or rap your lyrics and speed up your career. Clive Davis couldn't do that. And what has Mase done since then that anyone cared about? Left Bad Boy in 99 ... I'll give you Breathe Stretch Shake and to a lesser degree Welcome Back, but who's listening to those today? or anything else since then? When he goes on tour with Jadakiss & Cam, you think you're gonna hear much post-Bad Boy material? and Jadakiss still works with Puff to this day. He knows what it is. He understands what it takes to do things independently and prefers to take an advance any day.

[@itsshowtime14]

Hoffa you gotta do your research on that Mase situation before speaking loosely bro your platform has too many eyes on it now to just be winging it Salute fellas

[@CreateHistoryTV]

Hoffa Gang Hit The Likes!

[@TheTeslaTy500Show]

Hoffa Gang

[@m15anthr0pe]

Off-topic, but when he grabbed the Henny at the end, his shirt's reflection made it look purple. I was about to go hunting for this purple Hennessy!

[@khaosol]

Straight follower...😂😂😂

[@NazeemSpencerJoles]

Kendrick and Cole are on very different levels liyrcly. I think the comparison between the two is kinda random like this comment. Compare Cole to Drake not Kenny

[@2gunzfilms425]

*Lyrically

[@BoiTrey725]

Yall overrate Kendrick lyrical ability so much

[@pauljones7675]

@@BoiTrey725 nah, he’s right. Cole is never making an album on the level of GKMC or TPAB either and that’s absolutely okay.

[@BoiTrey725]

@@pauljones7675 niggas talking about albums and the discussion was about lyricism… absoul can’t make a GKMC or TPAB and he’s 5x better than Kendrick LYRICALLY

[@G.LD.]

@@pauljones7675 chatting...plus it's crazy how cole has proven he can hop on ya favorite rappers track n out bar/out shine them n everyone somehow still sleep...at this point ik yall doing it on purpose

[@rastagideon8236]

Salute Lil Wayne

[@ebilimmiri]

Wayne work ethics though. To fly across states then do 3 videos in one day. That man work his butt off to be where he was then.

[@djzoebeatz]

HOFFA GANG IN DA BUILDING 549K SUB NEED HALF OF DAT THO

[@thomaswalker3059]

Let’s get Boosie on here

[@SoulOfTheSouth]

I’ve been saying that for a while. Im from Texas so I understand. They need to get more southern artists on there. They just had a few guys from Atlanta but they need to go get more from the Gulf Coast region. No disrespect with Atlanta rappers but I feel like they also have them on there because Atlanta is popular. Heneken on there always talk about Atlanta or Miami like that’s the whole south. I feel like it’s taboo. Naw they need to get Boosie, Scarface, Bun B, Devin The Dude, D.O.C., Slim Thug, Paul Wall or Lil Keke. They had DJs on the show so they gotta get legendary DJs like DJ OG Ron C and DJ Michael Watts. They need some Memphis artists on there too. Get some more West Coast artists on there. Everything can’t just be NY, Atlanta and Miami artists only. It’s like they’re staying in the eastern time zone only if you know what I mean.

[@jahleelflecha]

Math it’s Jay Rock lol

[@soda8736]

You know how many rappers would love to get signed for 5000 right now..

[@drex1030]

What do mean by "get a southern artist"

[@Modthepirate]

"Get a down south rapper and we'll take you seriously because west coast sucks ass" -Warner Brothers

[@KINGJROC1979]

Lies ...Wayne was not the only one that didn't charge for video or song..Dolph being one of the for moneybag yo...I need a plug joint...so stop it !!

[@Hiphop_Love]

Math buggn you didn’t even listen to mase reply to Fivio smh

[@Tuttlm27]

Math needs to clear up his comments about Mase.

[@triberedeyetv5971]

I got a southern artist for ya #DriftLxrd

[@Justinbattle86]

If they had Zay the whole narrative would’ve been different.

[@drizzle1977]

Okay everyone got me. I'm an alien. Who's in love with Beyonce and Riri. Eeee.

[@punchabunchofbuttons214]

"that era" bruh it's still that era. lmfao. south had the rap game in a choke hold since 05. going 20 years now. lol

[@iNFaMoUS_NY]

yea OK! 👌🏽 put the pipe down fam

[@NDawa11214]

@@iNFaMoUS_NY it's a fact. Midwest making a push with the drill music though. NY just gotta do NY. I'm from the south but I don't like NY rappers on south beats. Bring that primo shit back and bounce back

[@theycallmecity]

He meant during the snap music era

[@JD-ny3vz]

@@NDawa11214 NY Drill right now is bigger than Chicago Drill. That's the sound of NY right now. You're out of the loop niggas in NY are not making trap records at all. It's either drill or boom bap revival like Griselda and them.

[@pacbillz6769]

South Got the Biggest diamonds and harder to replicate. Not everyone can match the mannerisms or slang. S/O to the Bay they the same Way

[@bryanbrwnofficial]

* Jay Rock

[@el_solo_ojo]

😇

[@roscoeschickenandwaffles6317]

I always thought math was like 40 lol. Didn't know he was a yung bird

[@i.quadmegistus5768]

He is about 40. Pretty sure he said he was born in 1980.

[@pacbillz6769]

Lil Wayne Saved the LA Rap game. They had fell off the face of the earth after 06. The Game got wack real fast after his 50 beef. Jay Rock Kept LA alive

[@erinbutterfield1240]

Math you dead wrong on this one you should have watched Mase response before making a statement period. Go watch his episode of Miilion dollars worth of game sir. I don't understand how Mase is so disrespected.

[@lochofmceo]

I'm sure Wayne got paid in publishing and copyrights

[@allanbroady2970]

Low key this is what happened to big krit

[@blackjesus4525]

Wayne is that nigga!

[@drizzle1977]

In and then out of Toronto who knows where the nose goes when the nose goes. Drizzle's rolling in three wheel motion though Yo. Hot gals pick out my clothes. My last rival heard he fell off in Rio. If I come for you it's Lil Ole Man in a Geo. Bending corners in the benzo like Benzino El Huncho every woman's hero my enemies only zeros. Drizzle the illest fella in throughout all of the boroughs. Only being modest and thorough. I'm scarier in person you know a scarecrow. A big bad axx like Jethro. Spicier than a mexicano gyro. My main arch I call him Gonzo. We see each other it's aye say adios amigos. We're always playing games. Man some just tell Rihanna Drizzle loves her. Yeah.

[@pedrojustice6341]

No offense. Math wrong about Mase. He need to watch the video. Mase cleared it all the way up. He actually protected Fivio from himself. Gave him 750, 000K and publishing. That's more than a little. Relax

[@Niwde8411]

This episode might be M.E.O.'s first L in terms of quality but I haven't watched the first 2 years of this podcast. Don't interview record label execs unless they from the 80's & 90's.

[@xafefyusha]

Nah, hands down best lyricist ever to come outta Miami 🌴 over here. Entendres, wordplays and rhyme schemes go too brazy. Watch.

[@JG24_08]

Bias is real

[@ADvision]

Naaaaw East coast music ain’t been relevant in a while and even when it comes back, if it comes back….the southern listeners will know nothing about it

[@nicholasverando2150]

Blood gang shit.