Calli Explains The Things That Would Get You Rejected by Hololive 【Mori Calliope / HololiveEN】

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[@Jiemboh]

Emotional maturity needed.

[@Earliersphere]

and understanding how to be professional.

[@Digdiga]

So Max out all personality charts?

[@legendarydigitize2523]

How about being fairly sane Do we want another rushia?

[@Limrasson]

@@Digdiga I don't think that's max, but kind of a minimum, quite literally actually.

[@RenElknite]

The two tempus bois, sadge

[@ElPinguinoNegro]

The “vibe” in this instance is the ability to be a professional and be easy to work with. Which seems like it would be easy, but it’s surprisingly hard to come by in people.

[@einrin.]

Especially in this industry

[@jakobetheanimevtuber4102]

im pretty sure theres at least one diva in this group

[@MeMe-gm9di]

@@einrin. No, it's hard in every industry. It's simply hard to hire good people. And I'm not saying that that is because people are bad, it's hard to distinguish good people from bad people when you don't have weeks to evaluate. Like, I'd attribute some of the differences of success between HoloEN and Niji EN to differences in hiring. Anyway, that's just my personal experience from having made bad hires.

[@ChaosAngel667]

Have you read the "drama" leaks? It was just people discussing about work, yet the people who leaked it thought it was drama. That really speaks about how Hololive is different from the majority of the community. There are other good agencies like PhaseConnect and Vshoujo but the majority of the vtubers are just petty.

[@KyokujiFGC]

I think they've been good with that. There seems to be very little infighting in Holo compared to some other agencies.

[@WD_Batora]

It is clear that they have been screening for certain personalities, people that would fit the work culture there. It's been like this for years

[@rainzerdesu]

They really should be a case study on talent acquisition and management because it is just unbelievable how they're consistently able to get, maintain, and grow talent

[@legendarydigitize2523]

​@@rainzerdesu Should we bring that up to armchair expert? Or is that not something he can cover properly? He is a media school graduate, not a psychology major

[@Helmir]

@@legendarydigitize2523 You shouldn't do anything, really.

[@rainzerdesu]

@@legendarydigitize2523 I'm not even sure how i'm supposed to interpret this. Like who is this media school graduate you're talking about

[@WD_Batora]

This legendarydigitize guy has insulted irys in the past directly under her comment section

[@cgpazevedo]

I will forever be impressed how they can get like 50+ people together and not an example of pettiness or jealousy that I can remember, at least in a surface level.

[@dkosmari]

One example: Rushia.

[@BerriesNotNice]

@dkosmari Rushia had like, uh, a lot of problems lmao...

[@giorno6086]

@@dkosmari even Rushia was somewhat professional back when she was at Hololive, most of her problem was outside of streaming.

[@Philweasel]

I remember seeing Marine and Pekora squabbling several times through their careers, but that sort of made their relationship more genuine. Pekora's outright admitted she's felt jealous and competitive with Marine on occasions, and like... yeah, that's a normal human thing to feel. If anything it's made them tighter.

[@kumaIndigo]

Didn't kiara used to say she was jealous of gura in the beginning? I know they've resolved that now, but kiara used to be pretty outspoken about that back then. Even going as far as saying that model color mattered with how well the public was going to like you. Red and orange being less likable and blue being the most liked or something along those lines.

[@DukeChutney]

"Professionals have standards. Be polite, be efficient, have a plan to destroy Yagoo's dream with everyone you meet."

[@wildfurious]

I reading this in sniper line lol

[@Memedoggo04]

Lol

[@aznravechild6i9]

I understood that reference. Funny how Holo also had a talent known as Mad Dog.

[@DBT1007]

Lame overuses joke... 😒 We need to make yagoo dream joke truly dead, guys. So that we can use it again next time. Like maybe next year

[@Dmannrdn]

"The No Asshole Rule" Is a book, from the early 2000s, that describes this exact phenomenon. It's a short and interesting read.

[@blackjacktrial]

Its not just no asshole though. Its also hiring people who are emotionally intelligent and can run their thoughts through a filter before saying them (this last part I think is the key to the difference between Cover and Anycolor. Cover put a premium on complementary personalities, whilst Niji chased an edgier, less filtered 'authenticity' which backfired when those unreconstructed personalities inevitably came into conflict and lacked the diplomatic skills to navigate it (because they deliberately selected against that). It's a bit like when in TV, you have a choice between going for aspirational television showing us at our best, or the drama of interpersonal conflict that reality TV thrives on. People want something nice and relaxing to escape a harsh world at the moment, so feelgood Holo is preferred; in the 90s people felt good, so some authentic nastiness was needed to cut through the saccharine niceties of those times.

[@LuckyUnlucky2]

@@blackjacktrial Idk I'd say if you aren't "emotionally intelligent and can run their thoughts through a filter before saying them" you're an asshole, at least for the moment of conflict.

[@-FFFridge]

@@blackjacktrial I don't think Niji prioritized "edginess" or "authenticity", pretty sure they just let anyone in as long as they seemed entertaining enough, and that's the issue. Even one bad apple can spoil the bunch - especially if the staff behind the scenes is also the same so they let bad actors gain power without repercussions so long as it furthers their own goals.

[@squalleonkeneddyheart4191]

​@@-FFFridge your right they aren't Edgy. But they sure have Big egos thinking "We pretty much equal if not bigger than holoEN now that we are at Nijisanji" that may not be the case during Lazusidia+ Etheria but when Luxiem and Noctyx came out? their egos were stroked and their individual issues came out. Only Shu is the only professional one and is there cuz he wants to be a big singer.

[@SipknabFile]

​@@squalleonkeneddyheart4191 Funny how they shit on council at that time. Look at them now...

[@matthewvazquez4455]

I always thought it was like this, quality control and a teamwork mentality. Calli just comfirms it.

[@Otoshi_Gami]

Pretty much. when it comes to japan work culture, you gotta work together with them and it doesnt matter if you dont get along with them as long as you're willing to with deal with it no matter what. otherwise you will be painted as the black sheep of the group and Hololive doesnt want that. its not surprising for me at least.

[@johnandrew4856]

Look how calliope has immense patience with his bunch of haters

[@kaitoryujin8266]

@@Otoshi_Gami one of the reasons they establish the 1 month collab ban in every new gen~

[@FruitsBootG]

I remember Fauna saying that she passed the audition on the first try. It made sense back then, but seeing as how a vibe check is one of the main deciding factors it makes even more sense that they'd want to hire such a soft spoken and chill person

[@MapleLeaf2501]

Yeah, like I doubt she gets along perfectly with EVERYONE, but Fauna has that vibe of professionalism that goes "Yeah, starting shit will kill my vibe, so lets just have a chill vibe and get this done and over with so you and I can get it done and we can part ways from a job done well enough that you and I don't have to go back to it."

[@sutapurachina1758]

Ofc fauna our beloved, the oshi of your oshi ceres fauna. Man I love fauna

[@bigred212]

Basically they want" I have no enemies 🗿" peace over problems type people which is respectable

[@jessquiatchon2204]

@@MapleLeaf2501 Thats why she let Nana 11 run her business even though her Fauna mart is being accused of scams

[@tuanpikachu]

@@jessquiatchon2204 lol

[@dwade03marion07]

This is one of the reasons why I really love Hololive so much, the talents not only have great personalities on stream, but, and I think a lot of people notice this too, they also seem to have that great personality when the cameras are off, and that's wonderful 😊

[@bluesoystercultist7164]

Rushia tho...

[@jackmesrel4933]

​@bluesoystercultist7164 She wasn't like this from the beginning. It was over the course of the years when she started losing it, specially after her brother got married.

[@Pinion396]

​@@bluesoystercultist7164 she's probably one of the reasons they're so vigilant of preserving The Vibe.

[@sazaneyes3]

​@@bluesoystercultist7164 To be fair, Rushia was also the same on and off stream, apparently. Yandere wasn't an act.

[@bitans2681]

​@@bluesoystercultist7164 I can fix her

[@generalowen4344]

this makes so much sense, i've seen many smaller agencies and indie vtubers basically collapse because of this single factor in picking talents.

[@EndoftheBeginning17]

Sure. I suspect that even in Vshojo where the rule is "talent freedom" that they are looking for mature individuals that can get along with the others and be responsible. I know they had a very rough start as the company was a start up with a lot of hiccups, and no one had the experience to deal with the issues that came up The same goes with the Fishman and Phase connect. You get a learning curve and that takes a little time and you find out what qualities you don't want and how to spot them before hand. I suspect that if Nijisanji had not gone public when it did it wouldn't have lasted.

[@sacredeight]

@@EndoftheBeginning17yeah you hit the nail on the head w vshojo. I suspect the reason nyanners, silver and veibae left is because they all have a tendency to get catty and snappy under pressure (hell right before that iirc silver got in trouble on twitter for acting passive-aggressive about the wizard game controversy) and that wasn’t jiving with the rest of the company, so they chose to quit on their own terms as opposed to sticking around, causing more friction both in and out and potentially even getting fired

[@revolvingworld2676]

@@sacredeight To be fair to Silver it was a two way street as Froot was definitely throwing Silver under the bus

[@RicKo5896]

​@@revolvingworld2676yea, but Silver also threw some choice words at ironmouse before she left. To which ironmouse felt hurt by it.

[@sazaneyes3]

Beyond just the ability to be professional, everyone in HoloEN seems to have an attitude of "all other members are so talented, I need to work hard to measure up" even when they themselves are also talented. I think that's a healthier outlook than jealousy or direct competitiveness.

[@kylebrady969]

Healthier until they burn out faster, at least.

[@VividP.]

That's why a surprising amount of them suffers from Imposter Syndrome instead. They are so humble at times with their talents and achievements that they start looking down on themselves or feeling like a burden for anything they're not good at.

[@jdogzerosilverblade299]

@@VividP. then yagoo is there to fix that. dude is the biggest fan of his talents XD

[@math3000]

​@@kylebrady969 and what's even better is that they take months long breaks

[@VividP.]

@@jdogzerosilverblade299 True lol

[@AlexBarbu]

This is an interesting way for Calli to basically confirm that they don't have the kind of internal drama that a certain other company has. I'm not a gullible fool to think that every single girl in HoloEN absolutely loves every other girl, but at the very least they don't cause trouble and conflict with each other.

[@johnnysalery7383]

It was a sad but enlightening experience finding out just how broken Niji was overtime. It’s like finding out your aunt or uncle has had a drinking problem since you were a little kid, and constantly made problematic decisions that caused others pain and suffering as a result. But maybe that’s why we shouldn’t get attached to people we barely know I guess…

[@ninjameep8616]

​@@johnnysalery7383 Niji deserves to go bankrupt, they are terrible through and through

[@moneybilla]

Ima go ahead and call cap lmao there's physically not a way for multiple women to be Ina Room and be cool with each other 😂

[@theadderallavenger]

@@moneybilla Find better women.

[@AlexBarbu]

@@moneybilla Not gonna lie, I've been told some horror stories, from women, about some of the issues they've had with other women. But I'd lie if I said that's all I've heard, and that I haven't seen women get along and work well together.

[@RworldKM]

They understand that this pettiness is what got many other agencies in trouble, themselves included at some point. I remember Calli reminiscing when they first started, the management told them "out of thousands of applicants in the world, we picked you." The pressure to make it, and seeing them now is a true story of success.

[@jmsytbe]

I feel like this has always been one of Holo's biggest strengths, and a big reason for that very specific vibe that people find so appealing. You always get the sense that everyone is supporting each other and gets along. Which I'm sure isn't _quite_ true behind the scenes, everyone has colleagues they get along with better than others after all, but it's remarkable how rare it is for any drama to spill out in public, compared to other streamers, whether indy or corpo. I can think of like 1 instance of public drama between members in the 4-5 years I've followed Holo.

[@Flugmorph]

which instance would that be?

[@jackmesrel4933]

​@@Flugmorph Rushia, probably

[@sword3349]

Yeah, like how Iofi recently stated how she didn't like Ollie when she first debuted because she was too loud. But they maintained a professional relationship and they eventually bonded over butts lmao.

[@matthewvazquez4455]

It's all about respect,even if you vibe more with other colleagues.

[@coriolis5347]

@@Flugmorph Matsuri had a pretty public....drama, well basically, Matsuri asked Haachama (before her health break) to come to her 3D live. Haachama agreed, but she went on break and understandably, Haachama could not make it, even if it was requested to be pre-recorded. However, Haachama appeared on Rushia's 3D live while on her break, pre-recorded. Matsuri went on to vague post on her secondary twitter/x account about how shocked and confused (in a disappointed way) about how Haachama didn't join her 3D live but did for Rushia. They made up privately afterwards when Haachama came back from her break. Matsuri is one of the more emotional talents, and this isn't the first time shes publically aired her issues (there was the whole relationship with Luna but that too was resolved). There was obviously a communication breakdown somewhere, and Matsuri should of not brought it up in such a way. Honestly it was not a big deal, but airing this out publically just caused 'fans' to 'fight' for no good reason.

[@HatiLeavateinn]

I think it resonates a lot with what she said about her song Overkill, that a lot of people see these entertainers as if they were in a competition against each other, but in reality, they support and care about each other. It makes sense that management selected people who resonated with that sentiment from the beginning.

[@ikr9358]

I'm glad that there's that professionalism. I think most people will understand that it's possible that some people may not get along with others at work; they can both be fine people, but some personalities just don't vibe with each other. But what seems clear at Hololive is that every member RESPECTS each other. Without respect, small issues can become major ones really quickly.

[@blackmage471]

It really does make sense from a business perspective. When you have a team of public performers as your primary product and method of income, group harmony is an absolute necessity. People who are prone to jealousy, pettiness, does a lot of shit-posting, is a drama queen, or engages in office politics (would jeopardize other people's well-being and careers for a promotion) would destroy any business in the vTuber industry from the inside out.

[@StrikeNoir105E]

Sadly, not every company is like this, which is understandable to be honest: many times you can only get the people you get and not the people you want, especially for jobs that require lots of manpower. Hololive on the other hand isn't a company where they have to hire dozens of talents every year, and thus they can take their time being selective on who they will accept.

[@Galiaverse]

I would say it's more than just "vibe", as important as that may be. An innate desire to avoid strife, a strong sense of empathy towards others. Or just lovin' the culture and wanting to add to it. And definitely no fostering ideas of "heiarchy" - the only concept of such being Senpai and Kouhai, but that's adhered to more playfully. This way there's room for all kinds of personality but without the drama that can arise from selfish ambitions.

[@kos2919]

Also company is very strict. They will squash any dissident before it fester and infect the rest of the team.

[@EndoftheBeginning17]

@@kos2919 You make it sound like Yagoo is oppressive. Strictness isn't about behavior, it's about following policies that the company has for doing things particularly about how to conduct a stream, how to handle merch, how to get game permission to avoid lawsits etc. Anytime they've had a company issue policy was evolved to handle the issue effectively going forward. For example, Marine isn't allowed to get all sexual when talking because this will demonitize her stream, and Marine eventually clarified herself because she did say the company was more strict but after being pester about it and her say the company will not let her do that. She explained that because KZbin is more strict about acceptable behavior, Hololive got even more strict to prevent the channels from getting banned or demonitized. KZbin has a lot of dos and don'ts that each creator ohas to learn in order to not screw up.

[@Techno_Idioto]

@@kos2919 Cover ain't Kurosanji.

[@Your_best_is_enough]

Mori: No pettiness allowed! Cecilia: And I took that personally. Lol love you Ceci!

[@myfaceismyshield5963]

It's different when it's a joke or in-character haha

[@bonticimong7100]

The only person capable of yapping about hating something and being adorable while doing it.

[@alvinjan3486]

yeah but let's be real, If you say that personally, you could get fired from the company you're with.

[@TheBestestKitty]

The vibe check of "don't be a bitch". Surprisingly difficult bar to pass, considering Niji's endless meltdown.

[@AnaOhKay]

tbh thats why i started watching holo more than niji, because theres always been weird interpersonal shit between niji livers that seemed to seep into everyone's streams. like weird petty shit just seemed to be the work culture there, even prior to their big scandals n shit. a lot of the friendships and inside jokes seemed really fake in niji, whereas it looks like the holo girls really do enjoy talking with each other.

[@yubiyubihorayo]

Yeah, and Selen's "attempt" failing was such a disappointment. More "vtubers" who fail the Hololive vibe check should self delete.

[@ImmortalLorient]

You're telling me that Hololive isn't going to hire those Vtubers who are constantly making callout posts and getting into Twitter fights? I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked!

[@natsudragneel-ir7sr]

And those who likes playing race cards when something don't go their way. The type of people who make their race their personality. In corporate's eyes, that is a timebomb waiting to blow up. Just having them makes everyone else have to walk on egg shells to not offend them.

[@pedrofelipefreitas2666]

This is one of my favorite features of hololive, actually. Everyone seems to be in a certain range of personality, there's no real conflict between the girls that we, the audience, could realistically gather from their interactions. They're all pretty kind, cordial, and professional, which leads to a really good environment to feel part of.

[@philtkaswahl2124]

Be like Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage from the Mythbusters. Their personalities clash too much for them to be friends off set, but they respect what each other brings to their work and can get along fine on screen.

[@jammed_yam]

Wow I never even knew they didn't get along off set but I grew up loving Mythbusters

[@philtkaswahl2124]

@@jammed_yam Adam Savage has talked about it on his YT ch, Tested, a few times. He a Jamie do respect each other a lot, but they just didn't hang out or be friends off set. Especially given how private Jamie is (which is why he's pretty much stayed out of the spotlight after the show ended) and how gregarious Adam is.

[@kirbyjoe7484]

@@jammed_yam It's not that they didn't get along. It's more like they just weren't close friends outside of work.

[@commentofthis]

Basically HoloPro simply trying to avoid any form of internal drama, possibly after the past incidents (HoloCN), to maintain a rather friendly & healthy atmosphere within the community as a whole, since each members has their own fanbase, some are so huge they can easily overwhelm the others, wise decission tbh..

[@megamage911]

The HoloCN thing only happened after Myth had already debuted. I'm sure that might be a factor after the fact, but that wouldn't have been a concern at the time.

[@commentofthis]

@megamage911 yeah, what i mean is most likely that those past 'unfortunate events' made the management more aware of such impact, not just that particular case, ikwym

[@ammar1415]

And that's why the bond is so strong

[@date5960]

Quality over quantity

[@karnegionzzz]

Quantity could buy you a yacht tho 😅

[@TrollCapAmerica]

@@karnegionzzz BAIL FASTER AND CHEAPER! ITS SINKING!

[@EndoftheBeginning17]

@@karnegionzzz A poorly constructed one with leaks though, and an inability to maintain the extra bits called branches. Quality is slower but more guaranteed of viability if the quantity is just enough

[@PvtVallen]

The quantity has already gotten unmanageable though. They need to graduate a fair chunk of the 5+ year members. Even in myth, Kiara and Calli are active but Ame, Ina, Gura are just sort of… existing and occasionally streaming, they are creatively done. Same for loads of the JP side too.

[@TrollCapAmerica]

@@PvtVallen Now observe the Nijjisister in its natrual habitat.

[@chrissolace]

Honestly it makes sense. Looking at their list of graduations/terminations, they don’t have too many… and most of them seemed to be graduations with talents leaving on their own terms.

[@StrikeNoir105E]

Even for the less savory graduations, e.g. Magni and Vesper, we can still see that they are still friends behind the scenes (there's been a lot of instances of the Tempus boys' PLs hanging out together, and just this week Regis made a post where they had a game with Magni taking first place).

[@megamage911]

@@StrikeNoir105E Yeah in the case of Magni and Vesper, it simply seemed like they just weren't really vibing with being corpo, and enjoy being indie more, which is entirely fair.

[@imaencuru]

@@megamage911 With those two it was contract negotiations that fell through, cover likely just couldn't offer enough for it to be worth their time, whether they vibed with being corpo or not. The fact that they were out of their previous contract by the time it came to renew is also why they couldn't have graduations, because they didn't work for cover at that point. I fully believe that cover would have kept them on if they could, but business is business and even the companies that are doing pretty well by their employees/contractees have limits to the resources they can offer.

[@StupidAnon-gn8ih]

In case some people are having a hard time figuring out what Calli is talking about, she's talking about vindictiveness.

[@RRabbit_53]

Very smart choice on covers decision. It cultivates a healthy work environment, and there's nothing more damaging to a company and it's employees than an unhealthy work environment.

[@legendarydigitize2523]

What was that saying One bad apple ruins the bunch?

[@Gamber63]

They did learn that in a hard way, that's for sure

[@Gamber63]

​@@legendarydigitize2523in a literal sense, they had to burn down a whole branch for their own sake

[@RRabbit_53]

@@Gamber63 Sometimes I forget HoloCN happened

[@Gamber63]

@@RRabbit_53 bcz that incident needs no contexts, it's basically an online invasion

[@t65bx25]

“Tubin’s a good job mate. Challenging work. Lotta travel. I guarantee you'll not go hungry. Because at the end of the day, as long there are two people left on the planet, someone is going to want to watch an anime girl make faces.” “Dad- I'm a- I don’t think I’m a cartoon, dad, I'm an actor. Well the difference being one’s a job and the other's mental sickness! Put- put mum on the phone…” “Professionals have standards. Be polite. Be entertaining. Have a plan to collab with everyone you meet.”

[@ricshome1]

All their picks have been amazing, but this last EN picks have something extra about them I love especially Raora. The Italian accent just hits the spot

[@xenfang7229]

This is why I love Hololive so much. Never seen any real drama between the talents and they’re all supportive towards each other. It’s like one big family here

[@Paladin327]

Luckily most of their drama has been of the tongue-in-cheek variety

[@epiccarrot88]

Basically, Hololive doesn't want a clique like the one that tore NijiEN apart. You have to be the kind of person who can vibe with anyone, no matter their beliefs or politics or yabainess. Basically, you have to be someone who can talk to someone you disagree with, and still get along with them. At least, that's how I interpret it.

[@rhirune]

Like Ollie and Iofi at the beginning.

[@QuomoZ]

There is no proof of a clique tearing NijiEN apart. We do not know exactly what happened behind the scenes, nor do we know who were responsible.

[@epiccarrot88]

@@QuomoZ Bro, Nijisanji themselves admitted to the clique. When the company themselves says it happens, you gotta prove that it doesn't

[@marcoyourfriendlyspacemari819]

HAHAHAHAHA​@@QuomoZ

[@morphayangze2737]

​@@QuomoZHahahaha! Ahh, this just made my day...

[@darkwar232100]

Once again, quality speaks.

[@guyra4298]

True, the core component that Hololive has over any other company out there is their ability to pick the talents to represent them. Anyone can apply into Hololive but I can't imagine how much research and depth the recruitment department goes into when it comes to looking at the history of any potential Hololive candidates, any "aggressive" Twitter post that they made that could be taken as offensive, religious, political and such would probably get taken you off the list. Any controversies that they had in the past would probably be also taken into account, heck even just appearing as someone of being unable to "keep things to themselves" would probably get taken off the list.

[@TheMan21892]

If that were the case there’s at least 1 girl in EN they shouldn’t have hired, according to what you said

[@Chilling_pal_n01anad91ct]

​@@TheMan21892elaborate?)

[@BRBingeDrinker]

@@Chilling_pal_n01anad91ct he's talking about calli if i had to guess.

[@Chilling_pal_n01anad91ct]

@@BRBingeDrinker yeah, I've heard about Calli, but he said "at least")

[@myuzu_]

It's a common sentiment among early members​ that their first application probably wouldn't make the cut if they applied today, but obviously they've grown into success.@@TheMan21892

[@samurexatlas7373]

YOU KNOW THE VIBES!

[@megamcee]

And that vibe check has made hololive super successful and beloved. Unlike a certain other colorful company

[@JDeO1997]

Any color and they chose black. Meanwhile, Hololive has the full palette to work with

[@Techno_Idioto]

@@JDeO1997 HoloPro even has access to the forbidden Mantis Shrimp colours

[@Jindistinct]

Comments really proving that the quality Calli talks about isn't really that common.

[@hidarling641]

To be fair though: there's a difference between being able to have that vibe while working, having that vibe naturally, and not having that vibe ever. If they want option 2: then yeah, almost nobody is going to always have that vibe.

[@majesticfox]

@@hidarling641 The bigger problem is that option 3 is surprisingly very common when option 1 should be.

[@hidarling641]

@@majesticfox Oh yeah for sure, a lot of option 3s out there and likely many of them will pretend to be option 1 just to get in.

[@KILLRAIN42]

I understand and have learned very little about this whole vtubing thing but I have learned that the companies do seem to collect certain personality types. Seems like these folks collect calmer kinda mellow and more wholesome vibes and phase connect seems to recruit from abandoned insane asylums and mental wards.

[@khaled99069]

once they sign the contract they become a corporate drone that cant express opinions

[@neverheard446]

@@khaled99069 thats what happen to brazil banned X/twitter no freedom of speech cant express your opinions

[@amspook]

​@@khaled99069 Oooofff

[@TheDisquietingNight]

​​@@khaled99069and like the magenta of a certain rainbow, not everyone will accept/agree to your opinion. Better for people avoiding Holo because they're not into the music/entertainment they make than because the members spouting things like he does

[@adlindorsal9877]

​@khaled99069 Kinda not true, most members always express their dissatisfaction when something like their permissions keep getting rejected. What they can't talk about is NDA related stuff, any future Holo event they know about, and projects.

[@IvyAltdrachen]

i find that the vtuber sphere attracts a LOT of mean girls (just look at the indie twitch scene) so its nice to know that holopro doesn't let that kind of behavior slide

[@uh-ooooh]

that was exactly my thought when I first looked into Vtubing, specifically EN. I noticed it was very different from other vtubing groups where there was either passive-aggressiveness, in-fighting, pettiness, ego's, etc. but EN seemed like they filtered that and their picking-process, and stayed consistent in that with future gens. Obviously let's be honest, personalities are still controlled and all that since it's idol culture stuff, but still, I believe that the emotional maturity filtering is also very real too. EN started off so strong.

[@WD_Batora]

@@uh-ooooh "lbh personalities are controlled since it's idol culture" What do you even mean by that? The only kind of control Cover exerts on them is for things that would push them off the platform. They also control how their characters look, like forbidding drastic hair color changes. None of these are related to idol culture so I'm confused

[@kellyrowe4075]

This is so true! It’s kinda hard to explain every holo en member just has this feeling of comfort being in their streams that I haven’t really felt anywhere else. I never really got into watching streamers before then because it felt like I was in a crowd with tons of extroverts. Man I feel like I could write a whole essay on this cuz it’s just such a specific hard to explain feeling. I agree with what everyone else here is saying as well.

[@thegentlemanpirate13]

Given what has happened in other companies, I think it's good that they're making sure the holomembers will get along.

[@TheInnocentRabbitofCaerbannog]

Group benefit vs individiual benefit Shared resources but teamwork vs freedom but struggle Tale old as oonga bunga

[@arckinenso7615]

Not just "group benefit," but the emotional maturity to think for yourself and still choose to be supportive/constructive instead of petty. They seem to be confident and mature, rather than secretly childish and just following orders to keep the job.

[@thomasparkin259]

I imagine that if there is any sort of chaging between personalities they've already selected for the type of people who can let that go and be professionals about it.

[@SamaelVR]

I remember when I thought you _had_ to join a big company to be successful. You don't. Cali is right, sometimes you aren't meant to mix with others and whatever vibe the company wants.

[@SKy_the_Thunder]

This feeling of community across the entire roster is one of the main things I love about Hololive as a whole. Sure, not everyone meshes well with everyone else, but they all display a mutual respect and appreciation for each other. Much more pleasant to watch compared to groups where you feel that they consider each other competition.

[@yubiyubihorayo]

Exactly. All vtubers outside of Hololive are trash.

[@enraikow6109]

So the specific vibe is that you just have be a decent, professional, and polite human being? damn.

[@Saufs0ldat]

Yeah, I always wondered how hololive seems to manage a workplace full of women without getting what usually happens in a work place full of women.

[@squalleonkeneddyheart4191]

Ikr? In my head they must be a focused individuals who's objective is to fulfill their dreams and they will get along with people of that's what it takes. But in reality they filtered people through their personalities and whoever they think will ruin the harmony of the Branch is gonna be cut off

[@AxeDatcm]

The vibe is basicaly professionalism, easy to work with in a team And you can see what happend the moment they cause problem for the team the company, the moment they break their NDA or their contract, they have a discussion and reach wether its graduation or termination, thats it, no drama no fuss, professionalism

[@realQuestion]

Tokino Sora set a standard from day one.

[@djrylau]

Now more than anything, I really appreciate the transparency they're allowed to share.

[@decksteroussnail]

HoloMyth is such a Avengers Assemble

[@MelRetro]

*This is why Hololive the only V-Tuber agency I respect. They keep it humble and fun.*

[@bigguy1164]

You've never watched agency vtubers outside Hololive, Nijisanji and Vshojo in your life.

[@dimasstrandom6406]

Bro, there is a lot of vtuber besides hololive in there.

[@BRBingeDrinker]

phase and idol are pretty alright

[@dimasstrandom6406]

@@BRBingeDrinker idol is decent agency. Although they already taken over by brave group, it didn't change too much except management.

[@johnandrew4856]

​@bigguy1164 Niisanji really?

[@JBasilix]

You´d think that´s a no brainer. Luckily the head of my department also takes great care of picking people that will fit into our department personality wise. That is why we don´t really have this typical horror story office gossip going on. Then I look at the other departments and there it is full on civil war

[@JuniperArcher]

I feel like the vibe she's describing is people who don't have a big ego. You have to be confident and have thick skin to deal with haters, but I've never got the impression that HoloEN girls are like, fighting to be the best or have a chip on their shoulder being at a big company. They always give an impression of gratitude.

[@RushimaV]

It's good that she said this, screening people heavily is a must. A single controversy can ruin the company or other livers

[@RichardButt]

very demure, very mindful

[@themuffinlord6442]

In the corporate world having this view is prettt ducking rare good for hololive

[@legendarydigitize2523]

The sad fact is Hololive is the exception and not the norm among companies

[@kos2919]

@@legendarydigitize2523 Phase is also an exception.

[@tattybogles3156]

@@legendarydigitize2523 just fyi this guy is an anti

[@ryanandzach411]

​@@tattybogles3156 What is an anti?

[@stikyfinkaz183]

And they have done hell of a good job, the amount of gems all together its unreal, I love it HoloEN is perfection.

[@metalema6]

Showing tensions to the audience would damage the illusion that it's a big happy family

[@StrikeNoir105E]

That's always better than being completely unhinged and thus letting petty strife and jealousy ruin relationships that everyone can see.

[@PrimeGamator]

There's a very important balance to hold between having the talents be honest and speak their mind with their audience and not talk about internal problems that are getting dealt by the people who need to deal with it so as to not cause unnecessary drama that won't help anyone in any way

[@SrChr778]

As long as that "vibe" doesn't include discarding one's humanity. Otherwise, the road we take is, "I REJECT your HoloLive and SUBSTITUTE my own!"

[@Sterkson92]

Ah, yes, the famous "Social anxiety" vibe

[@sh1r0.n3k0]

And that "vibe" is what make Hololive is still Hololive even with so many new members from different background. As far as I know as Hololive fan for around 4 years, I never hear any toxic/bad relationship among any members. Everyone is loving, caring, and genuinely supporting each other. It's the culture of Hololive

[@martinbergen2963]

Wow, one line and i was instantly into this song again 😂 for the ones who dosent know " Calvin (Calli) feat. Hayko (Bae) - Street Fite "

[@koganenokoro4361]

In hindsight, makes a lot of sense why Finana got rejected so many times lmao

[@squalleonkeneddyheart4191]

Wait Final admitted into applying for Hololive?

[@koganenokoro4361]

@@squalleonkeneddyheart4191 yeah. If I remember correctly she either applied 2 or 3 times but she said she got rejected lol

[@FallenRyder]

That explains everything

[@cyechan50]

makes sense. I'm sure they get into arguments and have disagreements from time to time.. I mean like with an ywork place you don't have to be friends with everyone but you have to get along with everyone.

[@janrupertalfeche8959]

The vibe being "don't be a freaking jerk"

[@TheKikolito]

Hololive members were vibe verified by real Hololive vibe staff ✅️

[@nikx]

Everyone has that kind of wholesome, friendly vibe at the core. Not that members are not crazy or lewd, but everyone seems fundamentally friendly.

[@monsterpipeline]

Yea, just 1 jealous mf can do a crazy mess. Rushia is the perfect example, Towa did the same "mistake" and she just accomplished that for a while her viewers and followers will drastically change and kept doing what she loved doing, that's why many new viewers joined to support her cause they felt symphathy, you can't say the same about Rushia...

[@karnegionzzz]

I'd say one of the reasons "The Vibe" exists was because Hololive, at least from the early times, was focused solely on increasing its entertainment values, not its stock price

[@TerminalLag]

Professionalism and Mutual Respect tagged with willingness to grow with the group you’ve been put into and others around you along with the drive to climb the unrelenting mountain that is the Entertainment Industry I think that kinda sums up what they’ve been looking for and what they’ve found with all the talents We may never know what truly goes on behind the screens and scenes but just from the little interactions we do see from that side it’s safe to say most of the talents get along pretty well with each other and the staff

[@samsai1761]

This is the main reason why Hololive is more popular than other groups. Other agencies/groups rarely do collabs and interact with internal members and sometimes even start drama with other streamers. But at the same time, it is very strict and it seems like Hololive members are more restricted about what they can share and do and have to get approval for everything they do.

[@RicKo5896]

It's a double-edged sword as other agencies have shown us internal drama and strife has cause their downfall or stagnation.

[@cucumbermainline]

Very strict in what they can share? When you've seen multiple talents publicly aired their grievances to the management? Suisei have butt heads with management bts so she can have her way with her projects. There are outspoken people in hololive just so you know. The lack of drama in hololive just made you think that way.

[@samsai1761]

@cucumbermainline Sorry that I don't know every single lore there is to Hololive, but from what I heard, they aren't allowed to show skin or hands without permission. That's just one example. It's obvious there are a lot of rules and regulations. Their persona is tied to the company, not to them, so obviously, there are a lot of restrictions we don't know about.

[@minnelcandelario6893]

Their working on corpo deal with it. And they are being paid their due. The skin stuff is more for the talents safety than anything because there's a lot of freaks out there

[@iMrQueso]

"Does that make any sense" Calli's been watching Dantes clips and I'm all here for it.

[@ghostramen3768]

some people are just blessed with a magnetic personality, they probably had to choose between thousands of girls to get the perfect one, but there is also that "idol distance" they all have, girls like Filian and Chibi could never be part of, for example

[@kirbyjoe7484]

Freakin' Chibi in Hololive would be absolutely hilarious.

[@Frog-Shaped-Slime]

basically, nerds that are too introverted to fight and will gush over their cute friends

[@delphy2478]

credit where credits do. i love holo and can admit they've had problems and stumbles. but their hiring team has basically hit homerun after homerun as far as the talents are concerned.

[@Kronical69420]

HoloEN wouldnt have made it this far if they didnt have each others backs. I was shocked in life to realize how many people I cared for didnt want me to succeed. That seems to be consistent for majority of people ive met in life. HoloEN doesnt pull that crap. They cry in happiness when their friends succeed. World could take a lesson. Perfect example: Bae wins 1 million Yen to do whatever project she wants. Could have done whatever she wanted to her channels benefit. Instead of using it on herself, what does she do? Organize a cover song with every EN member singing together. Everybody won, including us.

[@berserkzelda]

So basically just be a nice person and get along with the others.

[@Gamber63]

Maybe that's half of the truth, u dun need to be a soft n' kind person, but at least dun be a menace, in a literal manner

[@legendarydigitize2523]

How about being mentally sound

[@tattybogles3156]

@@legendarydigitize2523 just fyi this guy is an anti

[@nerissaravencroftsmissinghorn]

its VERY VERY clear the type of person the talent selectors choose., all of their personalities have a similar tone.

[@KABLAMMATS]

"just a couple people" One jp staff and one interpreter 😂

[@danielcesar664]

Thats is the definition of a couple of people

[@karnegionzzz]

I figured at the time EN was being auditioned ID already exists which means they most likely have experience doing one where its mostly using english

[@kos2919]

I like to imagine the JP staff is A-chan. Also interpreter became invisible after a while.

[@ShadowAkatora]

Whoever's in charge of hiring talents at Hololive EN is amazing at their job.

[@Splitzblue]

It's interesting that Calli brings this up with you needing to have to be someone who can be friendly with one another. However, I recall FUWAMOCO getting rejected a few times before finally being able to join Hololive. While they didn't say the exact reason, I can certainly say it wasn't because they didn't have that vibe that Hololive is looking for. In fact, they have such an amazing vibe to them that with them being in Hololive, they're basically loved by both EVERYONE that's a part of Hololive, including the staff AND by fans. As for why they were originally rejected, I honestly don't know.

[@RicKo5896]

Chances are, Hololive didn't know how to approach the idea of twin vtubers or had no plans for twins during the picking of HoloEn 2nd gen.

[@BrainletReviews]

@@RicKo5896 Yeah, it's probably a case of not only needing to pass the general vibe check, but also needing to have the right vibe for hololive at that point in time. Likely holo wasn't ready for them, so they had to reapply later on when their vibes matched better...... also i feel like a surfer dude the more I say "vibes" lmao I do remember hearing about another holo member having to reapply several times before getting in. So it's possible that part of what they're testing is also persistence. It's like that Alliyah song "dust it off and try again".

[@ElementShinobi]

@@RicKo5896 That's the main obstacle I can think of. Cover's latest financial report had a footnote stating that Fuwawa and Mococo share a channel and were counted as 1 person when counting number the number of VTubers in the company.

[@UltraZulwarn]

I personally don’t take Calli’s words as “everyone has to get along”, but more like there has to be some mutual respect among the talents. “Envy”, “competitiveness”and conflicts are unavoidable, but they (Cover) looks for those with enough maturity and professionalism to deal with that….professionally. Workplace harassment and politics can get really nasty and devastating, those who have work in irl offices and bureaucracy should have some experience with this. there have been are documented instances where hololive members have not get along, even somewhat in conflicts with one another: Matsuri and Haachama (regarding the latter 3D concert appearance), Subaru vs Okayu (the duck herself said she had got into many fights with the cat), Iofi had not got the best first impression from Ollie….etc…. however, and honestly from my POV as a working adults, the above are very very mild, and with good communication can even foster better relationships as evidenced by the current state of things. Obviously, there was Rushia, whose personality had been kinda outed as…pleasant thanks to some recent incidents. However, she was really good at her job, and seemingly tried to stay in her lane doing her own things (with collabs here and there) TL;DR: you are very unlikely to get in hololive if you you don’t have strong determination to make your content, or if you are easily distracted by the success of others. Your fellows hololive production talents are co-workers, not enemies or someone you should focus on overtaking.

[@ioioi_prx4639]

Those rejected decent ones are in phase connect now

[@kirbyjoe7484]

Yeah, Phase is the only other Vtuber agency with a similar vibe.

[@tsuaririndoku]

That’s explains why a lot of Hololive members get along enough that it doesn’t cause a drama towards each other.

[@squalleonkeneddyheart4191]

It's maintaining the harmony of the group.

[@Karamaru_Crow]

Not only that but they don't just hire anyone off the street anymore like they did in the past heck most girls didn't even think Hololive was going to survive for a year long and were already planning their way out.

[@RossSutherland-q2y]

You explain things in a way that makes sense immediately.

[@_Moralle]

I don't necessarily think every type of personality that could stir up "trouble" is inherently bad, but it's definitely a smart move for a company to not hire people like that. Everyone's free to go indie to do and say whatever they want to and deal with the consequences themselves, but it's definitely understandable that a company would prefer people who are more chill and just want to entertain.

[@kos2919]

Sometimes I wonder if this is why there's so much drama in EN Indie sphere.

[@_Moralle]

@@kos2919 I mean, indies are just people that decided to become a vtuber, so anyone can be one. And like any group of internets users, you'll have people causing trouble

[@ikkue]

I think this is why a portion of EN members have JP allegations, because people who have studied Japanese to a certain extent also understands Japanese (working) culture to a certain extent as well, which is perfect for integrating seamlessly into not just the roster of talents, but also just as an employee of a Japanese company like COVER Corp.

[@lildyo]

I don’t even think that’s something exclusive to Japanese companies. One of my previous jobs had a similar hiring process due to the nature of the work itself. In some jobs it’s just more important to ensure you’re hiring people that will get along with each other

[@Fishman465]

That mainly came towards Kiara and these days the twins some for JP aiming stuff in Holo while with NijiEN there's actual Japanese talents who went on EN to sidestep the academy

[@ikkue]

@@lildyo Yes, what I said applies to any company, not just COVER. COVER just so happens to be Japanese

[@chineseman6580]

Yeah I got that feeling when Gen 4 debuted.

[@tea_otomo]

I guess with recent events in a certain other company ... this is more important than ever

[@legendarydigitize2523]

Honestly this is a subtle slap to the face of that black rainbow

[@GoldRichness]

@@legendarydigitize2523more like a declaration of war

[@WD_Batora]

it is not. It's just a comment about how they work in hololive. When I see people shitting up comment sections, I always find familiar pfp and usernames

[@GoldRichness]

@@WD_Batora it’s impossible not to think of this as a jab at Nijisanji. That would be too kind to them which we can’t do that. That would only serve to invalidate the tragedies that unfolded over the year

[@tea_otomo]

@@WD_Batora I also think nobody of them thinks about that company. Just a random thought, reflecting what happened the last years.

[@faidzeelhisyamhattar2133]

Humility and the willingness to learn from others, no matter who.

[@G1sandG1rlsGaming]

"What gets you rejected from hololive?" Not getting along with others. "So basically the requirements of every job that requires you to work with people"

[@jaycepentad9535]

You know when she said this may be hard to understand? You didn't.

[@jaycepentad9535]

You think you did, but you didn't.

[@ghostering8]

Unlike other job you wait for them to come out, they need to smell it out before they joining the group and mass thing up. 😂 Or else you gonna people dig the shit out like some Niji members

[@OOZ662]

No cat fights, and yet they brought in the biggest cat. I can't wait for her to meet the lion in The Ring.

[@masterofbloopers]

Anti-clique countermeasures?! I can think of an agency that could've used something like that...

[@Pitester]

It's the "Don't be an asshole." thing. Seriously, if all our government official had that kind of vibe, the world would be a better place.

[@NucleaRaptor]

>drama queen filter Based Holo.

[@velfare]

The green one basically

[@HikkiNeeto]

@@velfare well that green one pretty behave during her stay at holo different case if we talk about her outside holo that timebomb finally explode and also green one was member before HoloCN tragedy, so Hololive still didnt learn about that, hololive take a mistake, learn and improve

[@velfare]

@@HikkiNeeto tragic.. she was no.1 at one point

[@hashem1990rko]

This is what we call: "HAVING A STANDARDS AND WIRK ETHICS"

[@DBT1007]

if you're in hololive, do the hololive way