Cam'Ron vs Mase Beef | The Joe Budden Podcast

Joe, Rory, and Mal discuss the recent Cam'Ron and Mase beef.
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[@nikolatasevski8015]

You gone out rhyme who? I'm your prime times 2. That shits legendary

[@Toni3Chill5]

Bitches love me but that’s what dimes do 🗣

[@brandonrojas6254]

5 years later… Mase and Cam are friends and have a sports talk show it is what it is 🤘🏾

[@bronxguy1981]

Cam been picking on Mase for years, he had it coming to him.

[@marcuszapata6229]

💯👊

[@kingzerkcees2987]

Age is irrelevant. Battling is the nature of hip hop. Its a spicy genre of hip hop.

[@shortclips508]

Mase didn’t run off on the lord at all. Like mase said, I wasn’t a pastor and turn rapper, I was a rapper who went to church.

[@llc8508]

Exactly

[@Cryo1]

Joe always fuckin with mal 😂😂😂, but mase put cam to sleep with the oracle 😴😴

[@MrKoolCash]

the storms cryomancer put his ass to fuckin sleep bro!!!

[@malr7512]

At this point I just glad Ma$e putting on some fire and people are seeing this guy been lyrical even on the commercial shit he was putting out in his prime

[@corinicole9271]

I agree, folks have been sleeping on Mase for a long time.

[@setondriveable]

The reason people are shocked at Mase is because he never pulled a Lox move where he after he did the Bad Boy thing he never made an album showing his pre Bad Boy style. Plus it's wise for Cam'ron to not come at him again because Mase only mentioned the public stuff already known. His next diss track could get super personal.

[@pedrogates3189]

Well technically he never left bad boy …he just got off bad boy in 2011/12 …even when he came back in 04 he went to puff for records

[@carolinablue5150]

Aunty Joe with the scarf!😂😂 nah I fucks Joe but these jokes gone fly!

[@carolinablue5150]

Black Troy McClure 😂

[@aeonquiz3251]

*In my Mal voice* "I fucks Joe" is crazy.

[@iceman95120]

Pause!

[@LaFlametheLegend]

“Mase ran off on the lord twice” I’m dead !

[@SkidCudi]

He said it in Same nigga he called the lord and he didn't hear

[@josepena5165]

Mase is better than cam hands down.....

[@christianroberts6033]

Jose Pena You bugging

[@TheNyion912]

💯

[@aquaboy9515]

Christian Roberts nigga you bugging at rapping Mase definitely better. He on par with Kiss. Cam just got more swag than him.

[@shiestysean]

Mase been better. He just was in the wrong camp to keep his buzz and be comfortable. Cam had his own camp to grow and do him. Mase definitely better he just hasn’t held shine consistently like Cam

[@DAVIDTORRESANI]

Mase is far better then so many rappers who are thought to be top 5 lyrically. I think. Biggie thought Mase was nice. Because he is

[@adriano10123]

Aretha Franklin, Patti Labelle, Anita Baker still throwing shade at each other and they late 60’s 70’s😂😂

[@jeromemr757]

chill bro is a defense mechanism

[@sheashea4748]

Mase wasn't charging Cam he was charging tha label yet Cam didn't understand that

[@twonac5058]

What about Biggie then?......his career was short, but he is ranked high. Since Joe is talking body of work.

[@hushup8692]

Bigger e had impact and a awesome body of work in a short time. Mase was semi glorified and had a crazy budget and push. Ain't nobody rocking no damn Mase man.

[@samuellujan7525]

That's the same shit I say Biggie is overhyped, that usually happens when rappers die.

[@909_munoz]

@@hushup8692 i still bump mase

[@WhiteSauceher]

If mase had died right after Harlem world, trust and believe he would be talked about just as much as Big L

[@Sampson_Matt_]

He has 3 actually folks. Welcome back is a album

[@whentherope]

Ran off on The Lord twice...

[@flatearthfatboy9589]

whentherope which Lord? Lord Jamar?

[@Lawlstube]

Welcome back is fire.

[@JCally83]

Listened to the podcast today in full, love the fact it's 3 hours long. Lots for the guys to discuss! What up to all the watchers of this clip!

[@ar-mittch3108]

Mace left the game with two big ass checks from puffy😂🤣😲🤑

[@allmine5194]

AR-MITTCH that's the plug Ma$e ran off on twice lol

[@AT-ts1se]

He did more for bad boy then what those checks were lol

[@antoinelevine2143]

All Mine I genuinely cracking up over here lmfao

[@JamesGreenharmcityhangout]

Joe as an emcee...not rapper...but emcee...I have to say you are in my top 3 emcees of all time because not just due to your lyricism, but your intimate content. Very Personal and touches the soul...keep doing what you do God!

[@8lu3Jay]

Mase was charging the label for the video not Cam and Mase said he told cam that he was splitting the money half and half

[@micmorgan84]

Jay D cams argument is that they never had that discussion.

[@jardinemafios]

If you charge the label it’s coming out of the budget the label has to spend on my project so it is taking unnecessary resources from me if u my guy

[@nelsonbetancourt9306]

Stansa Baby see, that’s where the artists should’ve charged it to the label. Cam should’ve been happy that the label would pay Mase to be in the video. If cam was paying out of pocket I doubt Mase would’ve done that. It was an expense for promo at the expense of the label. Part of the game, Cam didn’t spend or lose a dime bc of it. Cam should’ve been happy that Mase was in a position to get his money off his name.

[@shiestysean]

Jamal mase steppes to his mans like I’m gonna charge them. Cam took it like he was taking parts from him

[@acidmack1041]

@@jardinemafios Mase had already done free videos for Cam though (the 357 video with them both running through New York), is he supposed to keep doing it for free? Why is Mase supposed to keep doing videos for free because Cam is his man but Cam is cool to keep having Mase do videos for free when Mase is his man? It works both ways...

[@isarmawinter1816]

I feel like I've been waiting for a month for a new cast! So can you please release the rest of it?! Teasing folks too much! And thank y'all!

[@LowercaseKev]

Masr been ghostwriting

[@anthonydecristoforo3219]

I know iam not the only old head checking for new mase tracks daily💯

[@BlackJesus2047]

You niggas NEVER have the story correct on here! Smh mase was ONLY charging cam so that the label could pay mase and mase was gonna split the money with cam. Mase told cam to tell the label that he's charging him so that they'll pay mase and mase was gonna split it with cam

[@diplomats031]

Justin TimberBAKED hmm I never heard this before, anywhere I can read this at?

[@BlackJesus2047]

Sean Ward Mase said it in the infamous miss jones interview, where cam and Jimmy called up while mase was there. Mase clearly says, he told cam to tell the label that he wanted to get paid and either cam would get the money from the label or mase would, but his plan was to split the money that the label was gonna pay mase for the song and video. Go listen to the interview and I think cam even admits this in his ig story that he did towards jimmy

[@SelfImprovementSis]

Cmon 🤷🏾‍♀️ why y'all teasing me with this 20 minute shit?

[@JReece3000]

itzmebytchez You know it's a podcast that comes out Wednesday mornings, right? Like the full thing is out. Check your podcast app if you have an iPhone. Idk what you non-iPhone users do lol

[@SelfImprovementSis]

JReece3000 I have the podcast app & subscribe. I prefer to watch their expressions. It's more enjoyable especially because they are easy on the eyes and I'd fuck them all. Lol but not at the same time. Parks can get it too.

[@JReece3000]

itzmebytchez You know what... I respect that LOL A lot MEN on here probably feel the same way but they ain't on gonna say that shit 😂😂😂

[@fuze1293]

this thing took a wild left

[@JReece3000]

FLESH LMAO! Forreal. Shorty took it somewhere 😂😂😂

[@xMXWLx]

beefin aint corny honestly

[@tonikavorkias5296]

Facts. Keeps the sport and competition exciting...

[@maecpo5647]

Depends on the beef....anybody who beefed with snitchtashi 69 shouldve never gave his ass no clout looking in hindsight

[@DrDonri]

yeeeeeaaaa... ok.. Cam been doing his thing wit Mase name fa years... wen ever Mase felt getting his lick back.. he was well within his rites... how r people not seeing that.. it don't matter wat Mase say.. he got full access n liberty to do so.. but wats real tho.. that was not Mase first tyme saying some shit back to Cam... do ya reasearh... Mase was not getting air play tho... "welcome back" was the exception... but a lot of the "heavier shit" new he was putting out... no one was getting behind it... so yu never heard his subliminals he was spitting...

[@FreePlayMode]

Mal needs to be on Everyday STruggle just one time so he can go to Ak "Bro....why you so Corny?"

[@xMXWLx]

Free Play Mode lets make that happen

[@romant142]

These people don’t know what records are on what albums. Mase has three albums

[@jayinthebx]

No one played the 2 and 3 albums more than once lol

[@teegreenburg]

No unity in NY? I never thought I would see a Fab and Jada album

[@ldrdatribeoflife5072]

Lucky Green Digital Well Fab and Jada made songs together before the project

[@teegreenburg]

My point exactly tho. NY "IS" united.

[@bigturnup6523]

Lucky Green Digital Exactly. Maino and Uncle Murda too! That’s why I was like 👉🏾 Tf is Mal talking about?! 😂

[@tonewopn8275]

Cam said he understands now why Mase wanted to get extra money from the label to do the video because it was in the budget. Cam said back then he should of listened to him. So no he is not mad at Mase for that. Most people are mad at Mase because he caused an East Harlem vs West Harlem conflict where two loved street dudes ended up dead as a result of. He then left for the church, and people in Harlem World had to deal with the aftermath.

[@hashimbrown872]

tonewop n now thats a Fact!!!!!

[@blakeb9964]

That's what people say but from everything I've read, he didn't cause it. The dudes already had beef. Mase just for mixed up in it later on. I think it's weird how everyone puts all the blame on him for other dudes actions.

[@dtraversodt]

Yeah Cam was mad at first cause of the Horse and Carriage situation ,but to this day,sleeping with Maine's baby moms which put everyone in All Out's life (including Huddy) in danger and not coming to Huddy's funeral had him heated

[@ML-zo5nb]

Damn why do i keep falling for the trap i like to see all the clips at the same time lol

[@ItsATocaBocaLife]

Made is a better artist .. period

[@UTubeBot30]

YES YES I BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SHIT

[@demetrigriffin3505]

Joe dresses like a gay substitute art teacher

[@marromorrison]

Demetri Griffin 😂😂😂😂😂

[@theallstargame3350]

Holy shit 😂😂

[@MrKoolCash]

Demetri Griffin lmfaooooooo

[@raslove152]

lmao!!!!

[@gblackmon84]

He dresses like he knew both his mom AND dad growing up. #stayblessed

[@dqsmooth34]

when ranking MCs you almost have to have an "honorable mention category for MCs like Ma$e, The D.O.C, Andre 3000 etc. they just dont have the catalog or longevity as solo artists to rank them where they SHOULD be...but they are phenominal MCs...special MCs.

[@tnreid1202]

ya boy! D Johnson I'm sorry but 3k is not a good reference for an honorable mention. He is a top MC, PERIOD.

[@Hail2daChief]

+Miss Tiff exactly

[@willybandz8539]

Andre 3K got a catalog

[@jardinemafios]

2 of them is Erykah Badu baby daddy

[@nlwilliams31]

Andre 3000 honorable mention? Get the fuck out of here ....He ranks way higher .....

[@SubjectZ3RO]

Mal is officially a tryhard

[@chalkyblack7582]

Hov 48 & he dissed Future 😂

[@kasperjasonwinans2275]

This is hip hop.and battles and beef goes hand and hand.since the beginning.especially rap battles

[@lasdonjuan3711]

It's a battle rap.. Mal u bogus on this one... many rappers over 40 on this..AND facts... that shit lit music up... wtf Mal talking... Mase been a vicious emcee.. this ain't his first

[@halfadozen6]

Same ______ is a banger! Love that track & it is the best on the album Joe!

[@emmanuelreason4181]

Seiously..20 minutes..yall playing us Joe😂😂

[@p.oastman]

same n's was my skit! & another story to tell. double up......UNDERR8ED!!!!

[@dkmc6434]

Jay was taking shots at cam and future on 4:44 at 47! More of the story you're never too old to defend yourself

[@silversoul879]

khalif 215 taking shots and beefing are 2 different things

[@dkmc6434]

you right beef is in the streets and should never be confused with music it aint beef if nobdy doesnt lose a life...

[@blakeb9964]

Yeah that dude ia dumb af.

[@hallelujahhollabacktv7670]

If you're dropping rappers who left in their prime, does that go for Biggie and Big Pun???

[@Christopher_J]

The dude Mal speaks alot without really thinking about what he saying. Like it sounds good to him so he say it but he lacks a little on critical analysis!

[@shiestysean]

Christopher Johnson that’s usually the case with him.

[@ygmackholmes7005]

10 minutes in and I just notice he was playing welcome back at the beginning of the podcast

[@ygmackholmes7005]

Clip

[@odellhall8300]

What is taking so long with the episode beloved

[@brandobyanymeans5304]

New camera? Nice

[@eznosnopes5276]

The Huddy line and The OVO line in Story of Adidon are way too low.

[@jonathanwoods7470]

Mase diss song and Jim hot 97 Interview make me view Cam a whole lot differently its some real stuff being said and Im not sure people are paying attention to the consistencies on Cam man its some real character flaws there and yeah Mase won the battle to me. Cam has said everything where as Mase never really addressed shit it gives Mase song more weight to me cause its fresh if that makes any sense lol

[@xMXWLx]

IM NOT ROLLIN 😂😂😂

[@dhambo1100updates]

“You thought PNB was the buzzer beater?” 😂😂😂😂

[@Fancichick765]

how come joe and rory are wearing headphones but mal isn't'? just noticed this lol

[@sorethumbs379]

Maxine Clark how come you’re the most attractive person on this thread?

[@krisbrown8103]

Depends on what else they have to do as far as engineering. Mal just might be a co host not host or co host that also engineers

[@Fancichick765]

I guess that's true they usually do the sound effects

[@docmarley9754]

Mal is clearly too cool for headphones

[@thertimshowchannel]

They probably do sound checks beforehand..sometimes you can rock a podcast without phones...I do it sometimes

[@sheashea4748]

So Joe does that mean that Camron & alot of other people are better then Biggie because they have more albums & been around longer??

[@sylvceo7168]

And now look. Mal and Joe beefing while Mase and Cam cool. Go figure

[@Supermoney97]

used to rock that scarf joe is wearing everyday in 2009

[@ray1411]

Nah, I’ve never liked a Mase album. And I’ve never liked a Cam album. Did I like a few cuts here and there? Of course. But, you know what? I’ve always known Mase was better than Cam.

[@joemac5864]

Ayooooo😂😂😂 6:54 PAAUSSSEEEEE

[@ThepookieIsis]

Mal being ageist. You can air someone out at any age. Hip hop is growing up and there are fans and artist of a variety of ages. Gun play is a different story and should be avoided at all ages.

[@MeetJasonKelly]

Tell the camera guy tpo mix the audio better and get a better lense.

[@ATOWNFONTAINE]

Man, Mase did Cam, Harlem World, almost everybody in Harlem wrong. Then when he burned all his bridges he ran and became a preacher. Then came back to rap and left again. Call Mase the runaway. He gonna run some type of way. Everybody else in the game dealt with the ups and downs. Not Mase. He ran.

[@columbusohio72]

Would you stay and keep getting extorted?

[@romant142]

Joe is right about same niggas though one of his best songs

[@pureblack3363]

That Ma$e and Mac Dre 🔥

[@NYCTheBronx]

Pure Black Tycoonin!

[@pureblack3363]

xXBronxXx you know

[@TELLMEWHOYAGOT]

Stop saying beef it's called a battle, which is the root of rap. Biggie already told you beef is when ya moms ain't safe up in the streets.

[@Augastine1]

Hardest happiest beat lol .. I know you like that

[@xMXWLx]

everytime i tell my girl i know you like that i say it in Mase voice lol

[@bisolo8]

Very balanced narrative.

[@dreamsnetwork9132]

yoo Rory and mal lockin n! Joe i see you keep it trillogy!

[@fat213]

Mase was charging the label

[@Pengman47]

I was just smoking weed in my car , Iam reeking of bud I smell loud AS FFUUCCK from smoking in the car with the windows UP LOLOLOL

[@TheEddiebaseball]

pengman47 I been there

[@Skrewz]

Don't tase me, bro!

[@vanguarde808]

"Dont taze me Bro" zzaaappp

[@wellingtonsutcliffe5154]

How can I call in to talk to you brother

[@rockabyebaby6277]

Never to old for war

[@KentuckyBlue502]

Cam/Dipset has fire beats. Lyrically Cam is slightly above mediocre NYC artist

[@surplusrevenge2013]

Cam is way above average.

[@TharsanJeyachandran]

Lol he said gunit mase 😂😂😂

[@thetony8959]

Joe Budden Mood Muzik 2 is his best work & my favorite work from him. Might be 1 of the top albums but too bad it's super underrated & overlooked

[@JediDarkness07]

yes Joe thank u for doin this. Considering Ak ain't doin this real nigga beef

[@brandonwright6578]

Mase bodied cam wit that dis.

[@DonMegaHim]

MASER GOT 3 ALBUMS

[@kdot-is9yb]

This the full joint or just a part of the podcast

[@JReece3000]

kdot 2101 It's a part of the podcast but this is all the time they spent on the Mase/Cam'ron beef.

[@kdot-is9yb]

JReece3000 gotcha thanks

[@AGholst502]

Full episode is 3 hrs this week

[@enorb_art8211]

Ma$e Ghost Wrote probably about 1 album and an ep to about 2 albums worth of music/song concepts for bad boy outside of his own 2 albums Don't sleep some of the greatest rappers hits songs were ip Ma$e thought up

[@bigmoe8542]

I think double up was better than Harlem world imo

[@jorge5016]

"bum ass Ak," Joe stays frontin for his podcast lol

[@Hail2daChief]

complex asked him to be nice to ak his true feelings are in the first few episodes of EDS

[@pedrojustice6341]

The fact that other people are trying to defend and take up for Cam proves that Mase destroyed him. Musically, lyrically, Mase is better than Cam. Great dip set beats, but dubie, Hubie, scubie rhymes are weak.

[@zetsutsuletsu2034]

Am i the only one who thought the dipset beats were Bad? For me the grimy NY vocals carried all their tracks.

[@lanesedouglas3704]

Ur point was definitely made during dipset's verzus against The Lox ....u have Jada dropping freestyles while cam rapping nursery rhymes

[@shahid8545]

Mal is on point though, Joe just interjects to slander but doesn't Trump Mal. Mal making hella points. Joe gotta pay some damn homage when a nigga chopping wood.

[@Simbaaa0240]

SON GOD FUCKING BLESS I KNOW YOU PEEPED MY COMMENT BEST PODCAST OUT

[@hoffathemonster]

Thicker than blood is the hottest track on the album

[@danielmcfadden2565]

He was in his forty’s when he dissed drake

[@frankluciano2898]

Glad everyone agrees, and good looks on the Mase history lesson... What a year first G.S.P comes back now Mase cane back.

[@2twelvez]

Listen man, Cam is better. Not taking anything from Ma$e but Cam has said shit lyrically that went over heads like they was low. Cam has 6 (solo) albums & god knows how many Dipset albums. Cam has executive produced soooo many albums you don’t even know he was involved in. He has put on sooo many more rappers than anyone I can think of. Has battled some of the greats from Nas, to Jay to 50 etc. & has arguably NEVER lost a battle till now with Ma$e. Cam has rapped with & for legends like Big L, Biggie, Jay, Beans, Jadakiss etc. & has held his own. Ma$e fucked up by leaving when he was hot like Ye said “don’t leave while you’re hot, that’s how Ma$e screwed up. People underrate Cam because of his style, lyrics & flow but Cam has said some of the wildest shit ever. His swag was untouched. Had the whole NY & damn near world wearing pink, oversized earrings, & NBA/NFL jerseys. Give credit where credit is due & Cam aka Killa aka KFC aka King Joffe Joe aka Spacely Sprocket aka The Pink Panther aka “My Ak was Aka before my ABC’s it had me A’ok” is a motherfucking legend whether niggaz like it or not. Oh yeah & let me not forget how he embraced the whole south movement before anyone else did. Cam is Cam. Ma$e is Ma$e but he can’t come close to Cam. Just check out his Rap City freestyles, his songs with Children Of The Corn. His use of samples in bars like “Oh Boy” & “I Really Mean It”. Cam doesn’t get his just-dues but from fans like me who’s been there since day negative one, he always will. All hail King Joffe Joe, the true & ONLY KING OF HARLEM! 🙏🏽

[@joshuasimber8588]

Huh? Cam has lost every battle. And that's fine because cam isn't a battle rapper

[@joshuasimber8588]

Mase has rapped with all them too..and he put cam on lol you don't know what you're talking about lol

[@WhiteSauceher]

​@@joshuasimber8588you bugging, he killed nas, dissed hov and dissed 50

[@terrencetrotter607]

Joe's just copying EVERYTHING Dame Dash said smh talk about DAMAGE CONTROL 😭😭😭😭

[@TheBraveIntrovert]

Mal is contradictory.....

[@majesticallah375]

Mal how do u put an age of beef if some plays u at 40 what is yr responses

[@jfarther2766]

I like beef at all ages

[@prestigejel1404]

I See What Bol Saying In The Hoody

[@jahzarawatt2527]

PrestigeJel me too

[@mohammedalhaidar2511]

It was a simpler time…….