"Cam' Ye By Atholl" - Scottish Jacobite Song

[@konkwistadorkonstanty1398]

After first listening: very nice song After next listenings: FOLLOW THEE FOLLOW THEE WHA WADNA FOLLOW THEE!

[@thehighlander6770]

Long live the Bonnie Prince!

[@fibber2u]

@@thehighlander6770 You do know he abandoned his men to their fate rather than fight on and that the large majority of highlanders (never mind the lowlands) did not support him. In fact more Scots were in arms against him than for him.

[@thehighlander6770]

@@fibber2u That isn't quite right. Lowlanders from the central belt were Hanoverians; however, the northeast of Scotland was one of the strongest areas of Jacobite support. Highlanders were often split on confessional lines: Episcopalians and Catholics supported the Stuarts, while Presbyterians supported the Hanoverians. Ultimately, it doesn't matter how many Scots supported him, because matters such as this aren't decided by popular vote. James Francis Edward Stuart was the rightful monarch regardless of how many Scots supported him. Your expectations of a military campaign are unrealistic. After Culloden, Bonnie Prince Charlie commanded his mean to disperse. He didn't abandon them; he wanted to try and secure more support from France, which would be necessary for the fight to continue.

[@fibber2u]

​@@thehighlander6770 Oh he abandon them the rest is spin. I agree only guerilla warfare was possible, think The Bruce but he (Bruce) wanted the Scottish Throne.. Charles was never interested in the Scottish Throne it was the English Throne he was after. He used the Highlanders (a literal minority of it's fighting force came to his flag) but placed his hopes on an English uprising when that did not happen he was always going to quit as he would not even have been able to hold Scotland against the resistance from HER people. The farther north you went from London the less popular the Hanovarians were but nowhere enough for majority support for the Stuarts. Even though English Catholics were second class subjects they knew they would be worse off under a Stuart. You may not realise a Catholic Monarchy meant dictatorship in those days, Absolute Monarchy. Scots just like the rest of the island always resist that. British monarchs were/are not selected along the lines of prima genitor they are (still) chosen with the consent of Parliament from a royal family even in Scotland. The reason was to prevent Absolute Monarchy. Do remember we got rid of a monarch as recently as 1936. Divine Right does not exist in Britain north or south. He was not the rightful king.

[@thehighlander6770]

@@fibber2u Och, yer sheughing Hanoverian propaganda, ye ken? It's important to remember that, in this instance, "absolute monarchy" means "trying to stop Parliament from discriminating against religious minorities," which is exactly what a good king is supposed to do.

[@tradicionalfuturismo]

When you think you know all the great jacobite songs, you come across this gem! Thanks for posting.

[@PaulTippit-kn1fj]

There's a wee bit of this tune in the film Topsy Turvy. Now I know the rest

[@tradicionalfuturismo]

@@PaulTippit-kn1fj i never Heard of It, but i'll check It out

[@wfcoaker1398]

I know, right?

[@josephpohrte]

absolute fucking banger

[@flintlockbeithir4823]

Love Scots from Vietnam🇻🇳🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@rarias9629]

Long live Bonnie Prince Charlie, the real Charles III of England and Scotland!

[@ronniemac2636]

Timploder poster in a denial mode. The REAL King Charles iii is the one in know who replaced his wonderful mother, Queen Elizabeth ii. Ye got battered. Still are!!😂😂😂

[@EM-cw9eh]

@@ronniemac2636sausage fingers simply does not compare to the young chevalier. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇻🇦

[@hibernii]

And Ireland

[@MarcoCaprini-do3dq]

I've fallen in the Jacobite songs rabbit hole. I fucking love it.

[@Erin_-]

Banger

[@therealmcgoy4968]

A Stewart descendant here. Charlie you do us proud my kang!!!! Damn the house of Hanover!

[@johnthevoice6270]

I can listen to this all day! Thank you!

[@StuartMccabe-wk3dw]

It was performed The Corrie Folk Trio who were the forerunners of the Corries

[@cmb9993]

I know you credited the Corries way down at the end of comments but I believe they deserve to be named right up top! Love the Corries!😊

[@fibber2u]

How angry would Roy Williamson be to see who is leader of the Scottish Nationalist Party? Unless I misunderstood his "... land of the Pakistani..." lyric.

[@Arkybark]

It's actually the Corrie Folk Trio performing here, on the album called Cam Ye By Atholl and also Those Wild Corries. Not sure why it has two names but it may have to do with the fact that (I believe) was released by the Corries after Bill Smith left and the duo took over the rights to the recording,

[@viqtorus]

Drive on wi’ the braid claymore

[@thehighlander6770]

Over the necks o' the foes o' Prince Cherlie!

[@ratboy462]

This is such a banger

[@Tomungru]

Inconceivably based

[@CancelledōPyroLover]

Glòir gu bràth do Rìgh Teàrlach an Treas!

[@vivianlemottee3291]

Brilliant song.🇦🇺❤️

[@Pack_leader1989]

My name is Charlie I love it 😊

[@jordansinclair281]

Love The Corries

[@Einherjar3904]

Jacobites have really good propagacion songs, if I livd in Scotland in this times I definatelly fight in his army.

[@alejandromena8605]

¿That "brave Mckintosh" is Colonel Anne Mckintosh?

[@lucario2188]

Yes, it seem like the he is a typo since the singer clearly says She.

[@MHWTP]

@@lucario2188 then why does he say "these are the men"

[@lucario2188]

@@MHWTP Because all the other people mentioned were men only She is a female.

[@miloslavtokar1080]

also, the lyrics say thee instead of ye which would be more appropriate in this context

[@-._A2._-]

​@@miloslavtokar1080while yes true, however if ye say ye it still be correct ye is the modern form of thee

[@radleytube]

The Corries

[@lucario2188]

Yes, they were given credit in the description.

[@BenStevenson-c4z]

❤ SCOTLAND 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@thehighlander6770]

Vivat formosus princeps!

[@beachcomber1able]

The Scottish Highland warriors back then were mental! The equals of the Spartans at Thermopylae.

[@miloslavtokar1080]

are there any modern jacobite organisations?

[@balladsofhistory]

You’re about three centuries late.… The core tenant of Jacobitism involved the restoration of the Stewarts, a long-gone dynasty. However, it encompassed a much broader mix of ideas and motives. It attracted support from Scots who resented the 1707 Union and its ramifications (Loss of Scottish independence, the beginning of the Highland clearances). Numerous disillusioned Irish nationalists turned towards Jacobitism with the goal of reversing 17th century land settlements and winning the right to self-determination. While any and all political support swiftly subsided after 1745, Jacobitism became a highly romanticised topic since the enlightenment

[@vanjasenjanin1797]

There is a bastard stuart line in spain or france i think@@balladsofhistory

[@aaronfire359]

The Royal Stuart Society is a good one. And the Stuarts died out only in name @balladsofhistory. Their claims can go through the female line like all British dynasties and so passed through Savoy, to Modena, to Bavaria where it currently rests with the House of Wittelsbach until it shall one day pass through to the House of Liechtenstein.

[@aaronfire359]

@@vincentmcnabb939 yes I know. The last of the titular Stuart’s rests there, but the dynastic claims lives on.

[@CancelledōPyroLover]

Glòir do Theàrlach III de shliochd nan Stiùbhartach!

[@seastorm1979]

Freedom and Liberty!!!!

[@HappyHomeORobloxia]

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