Rafe Heydel-Mankoo | This House Would Pay Reparations

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November 10th 2022 at 20:00 in the Debating Chamber
Debate Results: Prop: 302 | Absn: 67 | Opp: 93
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Second Opposition
Rafe Heydel-Mankoo (FRCGS, BA, LLB, MA) is an author broadcaster and historian specialising in British institutions, the Monarchy and the Commonwealth Realms. From the BBC to ABC, Rafe is a well-known commentator in national and international media. He is a trustee of the Royal Canadian Heritage Trust and a senior fellow at the New Culture Forum think tank. ............................................................................................................................
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@johncatto5019 Жыл бұрын

These are supposed to be some of the most intelligent people in the country and yet they still refuse to listen to the truth. What hope is there for their future ?

@Threemore650 Жыл бұрын

Quite disgusting behaviour. I was ashamed of them. Standards have plummeted.

@goodlookinouthomie1757 Жыл бұрын

There is no real thought, only the awareness of what they must think - or appear to think.

@bugzyhardrada3168 Жыл бұрын

These kids don't seem to have much hope for a decent future, all things considered. Their overwhelming desire to remain so woefully ignorant will most definitely lead them to a life of anger, resentment, misery and ultimately suffering, which they will blame on the rest of us. We indeed are in for a not-so-fun-ride in the not-so-distant-future.

@mattwilliams369 11 ай бұрын

Cambridge students aren't there because they're intelligent. They're there because mummy donates to the Cambridge Union and daddy plays golf with the Dean (and got the Dean's son a job jn the City). The real intelligent youth are found in the upper performing universities outwith the elitist Oxbridge Bubble. St Andrews, Durham, Glasgow, Edinburgh, UCL.

@saltymonke3682 11 ай бұрын

Wait it until 25, after that they will think rationally. Liz Truss is a prime example of swinging ideology and age

@pablotheScot56 Жыл бұрын

If you think people who were never slaves should be given money by people who have never owned slaves, then may I suggest you pay them yourself since you feel so guilty.

@therageknight8546 Жыл бұрын

Very shocking to see the absolute disrespect displayed by these students who are meant to be the “future” of our country.

@Omglolwut 5 ай бұрын

Your country is in trouble

@WayneLynch69 3 ай бұрын

NEVER would I have imagined the green & white striped shirt girl was even college material. Shows how much test taking and parroting back misrepresents in admission.

@cx3929 2 ай бұрын

The UK is doomed with disrespect & denial shown by the Cambridge students in the background. Cambridge is supposed to be one of the best universities in the world with the brightest minds. Unlike the US where they have the economy and with the USD as the reserve currency of the world, the UK is no longer part of the EU and will continue to decline in every aspect on the world stage.

@maggiemathars235 9 ай бұрын

The behaviour of the "students" sitting behind the speaker is utterly disgraceful. They have the manners of toddlers and are obviously determined not to listen to anyone who does not agree with them.

@jenniferbate9682 3 ай бұрын

Badly brought up toddlers. My children would have been immediately taken outside and given a severe talking to.

@timothyhallett3724 Жыл бұрын

As always with this speaker, opinions are underlined with well chosen, broad ranging facts, rather than weak and emotional arguments used in the counter argument. If people who are concerned about historic slavery were as concerned about modern slavery they could truly claim the virtue they crave and do so in a useful cause.

@Aiphiae Жыл бұрын

I'm a high school teacher. Some of the rowdiest classes I've ever had were more respectful of guest speakers than these kids. I expected so much more from students fortunate enough to go to an institution such as Cambridge. Their lack of humility and openness to new (or competing) ideas is anathema to everything universities stand for. These kids should be utterly humiliated their infantile behaviour has been captured and permanently put on display for all to see.

@markstott6689 11 ай бұрын

I have to agree. It was more reminiscent of my 6th Form common room 40 years ago than a supposedly August Cambridge Union.

@chrisgodfrey6353 Жыл бұрын

Snickering and giggling at hard truths. Best brains of the country? Look to our future political leaders in the room so far removed from reality and the electorate. There's got to be a better way.

@problemswithmark 11 ай бұрын

Brilliant, I would have paid to hear him speak. Thanks for the upload.

@retrodad6864 3 ай бұрын

And me. Brilliant speaker. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

@stub1256 Жыл бұрын

The audience..Ohh the horror ohh the outrage!! Wheres Nanny?

@yamoto1833 Жыл бұрын

These students shows a very reactionary offensive and impolite attitude to engage in a debate.

@LOCATIONREDACTED Жыл бұрын

If someone's talking, either leave or listen, particularly if you don't agree with them. They need to check their privilege as people seem keen on saying these days!

@michaelwhite8031 Жыл бұрын

All of the smug students will probably get good jobs while the poor working class who never gained from slavery will pay the reparations.

@Rallylabs 8 ай бұрын

If anyone can be bothered actually doing any research(certainly the children in attendance clearly can’t), all of these points actually hold up to scrutiny, unlike those of his opponents.

@laaneychoonz1330 11 ай бұрын

So distracting when the audience keeps wanting to interrupt but then don't seem to even care to listen to the arguments of the speaker

@m1tche11one Жыл бұрын

Great RAF! 🫶🏻👍🏻

@Threemore650 Жыл бұрын

Rafe. He’s wonnnnnnderful isn’t he.

@guyellis19 Жыл бұрын

The behaviour of the people behind is appalling especially the girl in the green and white top - no interest or attention span - a future PM maybe

@photoplanet 6 ай бұрын

Future comedian, perhaps (in the Cambridge 'Footlights' tradition)... Everything she said had Henry (or Tristran, Cuthbert or whoever next to her) entertained throughout...

@michaeljay4816 Жыл бұрын

Wow... The audience is as disrespectful as their attire is shabby. Have they no respect for one another? I don't think many of them were able to hear the speaker, having written him off before he began to speak, perhaps.

@mange2 10 ай бұрын

You will never change these young peoples minds because they view what you say as YOUR facts not THE facts. Its the way they contrive their own knowledge so think everyone else does. The Universities are complicit.

@peace-yv4qd 11 ай бұрын

The children sitting in back of the speaker snickering, chatting and texting are the future? God help the future.

@johnmccormick9992 Жыл бұрын

Are we now going to jail descendants for murder committed by an ancestor 300years ago? If these are our future l despair!

@jamesdufc1 Жыл бұрын

Why do they all look 12 years old

@H4ZH4_3L Жыл бұрын

Nerve gas.

@joannasimmonds3706 9 ай бұрын

Because that's the age of their emotional maturity

@mariansheilamansilla6431 Ай бұрын

Because you're old? Lol

@tombuddy100 8 ай бұрын

Debate Results: Prop: 302 | Absn: 67 | Opp: 93 I wonder haw many of these people (or kids) would vote pro Ottoman Empire pay reperations. Also, I wonder why Turkey does not even have such debates in their major university.

@user-oi8ue3ns1g Жыл бұрын

The group behind him have no manners. Isn't it common decency to listen when somebody has given their time to speak whether you agree or not with what's being said? Could it be they believe they know everything about this subject and have nothing to learn? They have shown their ignorance. Cambridge needs to teach independent critical thinking.

@Rallylabs 8 ай бұрын

Why do they not have a minimum dress standard at these things? It is embarrassing to see people who resemble a teenager in a graphic tee smirking and sniggering in the background. It really shows a disappointing level of immaturity and laziness.

@vlyoz6088 11 ай бұрын

are these the students Cambridge University are representing? Disgraceful

@landsea7332 Жыл бұрын

6:00 Its no secret that China has operative students influencing Western Universities . Later in this debate this kid asks " Do you think we are still suffering from the consequences of slavery ? " Ask this kid how many millions died during China's Cultural Revolution and Great Leap Forward , and watch what his reaction is . .

@bjg3474 11 ай бұрын

Just brilliant.

@Threemore650 Жыл бұрын

Just checking to see if you chaps have edited this marvellously articulate man. Hawklike, I am. How do you get angry about us buying your ancestor’s freedom. The names of who were paid of are accessible. Take it up with them!

@vlyoz6088 11 ай бұрын

poor calibre of the Cambridge University audience

@littlecatfeet9064 9 ай бұрын

I don’t think these best and brightest of minds know what a child of empire is or anything about tort law. Great speech though.

@aussiefarmer4955 7 ай бұрын

This just proves some educators are twisted enough to teach emotions to their students and not facts.

@sentientmlem727 Жыл бұрын

The difference between Cambridge and Oxford is most telling in the way the audience dresses. At Oxford, people dress for an important event. Here at Cambridge, students dress like they are going to a the movies.

@apollocreed1000 2 ай бұрын

I don't think that's correct. All students dress casually. Oxford is much more aggressive to its right leaning speakers.

@m1tche11one Жыл бұрын

So true

@joannasimmonds3706 9 ай бұрын

Pearls before swine, unfortunately. Watching this" audience's" behaviour during this measured and informative speech makes me want to burn another ton of fossil fuel

@CarlAvoryMusic 11 ай бұрын

A room full of privilege that appears to be taking very little notice of just how privileged it is. I imagine the chances of finding someone that is actually connected to slavery is comparatively high in that room. Come on folks! You're the future. You'll be taking care of my kids. Please learn to absorb truth and not populism 🙏

@thierrylx Жыл бұрын

I very much hope, any of my 2 daughters ever aspire to go to any of these institutions...

@sedwarg 6 ай бұрын

Those children sat behind the speaker are insufferable. I trust they have been banned from the Union for their disrespectful attitude and behaviour.

@dreyfuss06 7 күн бұрын

Listening would mean cognitive dissonance. Listening would mean that the basis of their moral positions and the way they see themselves and the world is wrong. It’s easier to ignore and discredit an argument that to listen and admit all of that.

@deborahrobertson8606 2 ай бұрын

I am only a few minutes in and have decided to listen rather than watch. The behaviour of these ill bred toddlers around Mr Heydel-Mankoo is unendurable. What in God's name has happened to our august institutions?

@claudineijesus2230 6 ай бұрын

We applaud ourselves sir for the veracity of the facts in civil society and how the "youth" needs to come together and join forces for the future.

@johnfowler7266 3 ай бұрын

Well said!!!

@threecatsteve 5 ай бұрын

Glad you presents these facts that most ignore.

@helenh8540 9 ай бұрын

just look at hongkong and mainland china, which one is better.

@davehug5405 9 ай бұрын

The smug youngsters in the back honestly know nothing

@sheldonrichardson784 3 ай бұрын

Facts are stubborn things...... Rafe is correct.

@Francesco-ql3nv Ай бұрын

The reactions of the students is why I stopped doing debate and debate competitions. Sure, it helps you practice public speaking, but you can get so narrow-minded on your own argument... and the judges assess winners not to find the truth, but to find the more persuasive candidate. You really enter with a "I'm gonna win this" mentality. There are better ways to have a constructive discussion, but it's not as entertaining/provokes as much of a reaction.

@daisyfish-fn4js 9 ай бұрын

The inability of these students to separate emotions from genuine debate and a search for truth is scary. They appear more bothered about appearing virtuous then listening to him to to seek truth. They appear to want absolute purity from historical figures and he's right only british figures for them to be considered as decent people. The appear to think of themselves as better then the people as came before them as opposed to being equally fallable and flawed. They don't seem to care about the truth what they seem to care about is fitting in with what the current narrative tells us is morally superior and its people like that I don't trust, but honestly it's their parents fault and their teachers fault.

@diannegough5830 2 ай бұрын

Hello Rafe, Cornwall also was raided and Cornishman enslaved by Barbary Pirates.

@JimiGosu Ай бұрын

As I've come to expect from Rafe, his argument was factual, intelligent, and respectful. The behavior of these kids towards intelligence and truth is appalling. It's absurd that these kids aspire to ignorance and seem to revel in it so proudly. Not to mention their lack of respect and civility.

@advasity339 2 ай бұрын

Wait if these people can get into Cambridge maybe I do have a chance...

@jenniferbate9682 3 ай бұрын

I’m appalled at these young students rude attitude. No respect! Talking during the lecture and their continued interruptions are unbelievable and sad. This is our future! As an 80 year old, it leaves me completely distraught and incredulous.

@janeking5730 9 ай бұрын

Why as a mark of respect are cell phones not completely banned from these events. As for the ludicrous inane grinning idiot in the green and white top, I think she floundered into this debate by mistake. Future leaders, the thought is terrifying .

@tommyrotton9468 Жыл бұрын

who owes?

@PD-uc5st 3 ай бұрын

The students sitting behind Rafe are rude arrogant and simply not able to accept facts. They are not open to reasonable debate. It is shocking to see this level of disrespect. I would understand their childish behaviour if they were 10-year-olds.

@philipdoran6596 4 ай бұрын

A very reasoned argument littered with facts. I have to add quite disturbing to see the infantile behaviour of some of the students . If you cannot attend a serious debate without smirking, chatting and interrupting the speaker, I suggest you shouldn’t be there in the first place. Well done Rafe.

@ThatGuy-nt4jv 3 ай бұрын

Everyone who proposes reparations should be made to be the first in line with their wallets out, lead the way guys if this is so important

@RezaRob3 7 ай бұрын

I am going to upvote this video because he said several extremely important things such as the burning of widows being banned by the British Empire. However, I would like to point out that the claim about India's population growing very fast during the Raj isn't a valid argument. The world population was doing the same thing. India's population growth compared to that of the world, just before the Raj, or during the Raj wasn't much different - if you compare the two time periods roughly around 1600-1750 compared to 1800-1950 (or the period of the Raj which was around 1850-1950), India, compared to the world, didn't change. UPDATE: I just realized that 80% of the world at this time was colonized by Europe - not just Britain. So, it might indeed be valid to say that Europe, in general, brought better health to the world. It might be interesting to compare this to the 20% that was not colonized.

@RezaRob3 7 ай бұрын

UPDATE: I just realized that 80% of the world at this time was colonized by Europe - not just Britain. So, it might indeed be valid to say that Europe, in general, brought better health to the world. It might be interesting to compare this to the 20% that was not colonized.

@davidwell686 6 ай бұрын

Rafe Heydel-Mankoo

@peterhobday Ай бұрын

Don't blame the students for being disrespectful. These students compete to show compassion 4 poor black people.. If even one of them agrees with Rafe, the speaker, they would be ostracized by the fellow students and find life at the university intolerable. Such is life...

@jeremyvlad5771 Ай бұрын

What an utter embarrassment the students in this hall are

@cx3929 2 ай бұрын

@user-ny8hk2wf9y 4 ай бұрын

I am from working class stock. The working classes never owned slaves, the wealthy and aristocracy owned slaves, let them pay reparation.

@litestuffllc7249 2 ай бұрын

If the Bahama's can't produce a list of harmed parties with evidence they are not compromised in their claim; then - was the slave status warranted? What if the original party put into bondage in Africa had murdered or raped or done some other crime for which they were put into bondage. Few if any slaves were brought with documentation as to why they were in bondage. Can we presume the bondage was not justified? What is fair compensation if I kill your husbund stealing money; and he was the breadwinner? Put me in prison? How does the aid or resplace your loss? Todays prisons are more like vacation homes, no work requirement.

@litestuffllc7249 2 ай бұрын

You know this guy employed me for less that I should have gotten 20 years ago; shouldnt I be able to sue is family? He passed away; but they still are benefiting my my ilgotten work. All those people who had monopolies before they were made illegal - can't we go back and sue the Rockefellers; Monopoly was legal then but now we know it was bad. My X wifes family lost property to the Communists in China; shouldn't they be able to sue the Communists for that now? I am part Ecudorian; now that it is accepted the king of spain stole our gold and emeralds - shouldn't I get my share back now sure its been 400 years but I want my share back OK?

@wychwoodfolkclub 7 ай бұрын

Don't think any of them are actually listening. That's the Xbox generation for you

@makomadns4 7 ай бұрын

XBOX? Thats the TikTok generation, XBOX gen has already graduated, in the workforce and having kids.

@johnfowler7266 3 ай бұрын

Yes the slave owner got money!!!! Where is that money now??? The majority of British people never benefited from colonialism!!! It was a small minority!!’

@hacgarimman9660 5 ай бұрын

Rafes speech/rebuttal isn't even opinion. It's fact. I find it incredibly naive to deny facts over opinion. How many are jeering, talking to each ither and playing on phones? They are a disgrace and I cannot even imagine what thier contributions to society will do. They should have given thier seats to someone who will do something positive with that information.