Peter Thiel | Cambridge Union

Peter Thiel speaks in the Debating Chamber at 7:30pm on Wednesday 8th May 2024.
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PETER THIEL
Peter Thiel is a technology entrepreneur and investor. He co-founded PayPal and Palantir, made the first outside investment in Facebook, and has funded companies like LinkedIn and Yelp. Peter also started the Thiel Foundation, which works to advance technological progress and long-term thinking.
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[@dannybrown5205]

You will continue to get what you tolerate.

[@jacekstudzinski6704]

Tou will continue to get what you pay attention to.

[@hetmanjz]

@@dannybrown5205 Exactly. Stop tolerating genocide by ethnonationalist psychos.

[@ReligionOfSacrifice]

The family is a man of strength, a woman who cares, and children who thrive. Let us diversify this image. The population is a people of sinners who need a Savior. Let us diversify this image to worship other things, like a moon over the mosque, or lesser light ruling over darkness. Man should serve institutions that feed the culture. Let us come up with money and alternate worlds to diversify that image and weaken the actual people as people wonder how much money to do you need to handle all this diversity and thus not help your neighbor with a trade permanent or temporal.

[@ReligionOfSacrifice]

@@jacekstudzinski6704 What I'm suggesting Yahweh is telling the whole world right now. Scripture for everything. 1) Israel will handle Russia, China, and Iran with ease, but Iran will not be existing after the first Gog-magog war. Ezekiel 38:5-6 "Persia will be run through in your future, all of you with shield and helmet, you worthless patients wounded in battle, all of you troops from a house from the recesses of the North, all you troops of many people." Ezekiel 38:2 "Son of man, set the face upon God's Word, Gog and land Magog, for the prince of Russia, Meshech and Tubal, and I have prophesied of Allah." Ezekiel 38:3 "and utter, "Thus saith the Lord, Yahweh, "Behold I am against you, Gog, for the prince of Russia, Meschech and Tubal.""" Ezekiel 38:4 "and you will return by set hooks in your jaw, and come out with all your army, horses, horsemen, all, splendedly dressed, great company of buckler and shield, and all of you will be laid hold of by the sword." 2) Barack Hussein Obama will work the peace. Micah 6:16 "It is owed unto America, and all who work the deed and the house Ahaz ("he has grasp the ten") and watch and keep you with their strange counsel. Walk in it for the purpose; I will give you up to desolation. And your inhabitants shall be a derision, for you will bear and be a reproach my people." Luke 10:18 “and He (Jesus) said, “I saw Satan as Barack Obama.” 3) Gaza Strip will desire to make the lives of Jews and Christians miserable in Israel proper, and The West Bank will know to join them and they won't stop to take captives for they will know all their two burrows populations will be obliterated if they don't win. 1 Thessalonians 5:3 "For when they shall say, 'Peace and safety,' then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape." 4) Gaza Strip and The West Bank in the millions finding Arab Muslims in Israel proper and making them join them to behead Jews will wipe Israel off the map and Palestine will be whole. Amos 1:6-7 “For thus saith Yahweh, “for three transgressions of Gaza, four, I will not revoke being against: they capture people at peace with them (1) and bring them to be shut up (2), bloody (3). And send fire over the wall of Gaza (4), and consume all of the citadels.” Habakkuk 1:9-11 "All come, Hamas, assemble the horde of the east, gather the captives like sand. Mock the ruler, and their judgment a joke, laugh as all strongholds become rubble, seize them, then pass through like the wind, pass through guilty by the strength of your god.” Obadiah 1:10-13 “from out of Hamas, your brother, a deceiver, cover your shame, and you will be cut off forever. In that day you stood afar, on the day the strangers were carried away in strength. And the stranger entered to cast lots for Jerusalem, then you were one of them. Do not gloat over your brother’s day of taking strangers captive, nor rejoice in the day the sons of Judah are destroyed, do not boast in the day of distress. You should NEVER ENTER AT THE GATE OF MY PEOPLE, in the day of their distress. Moreover do not gloat over their calamity in the day of their disaster, sending wealth in the day of disaster.” Hosea 10:10 “It is in my desire that I should chastise them; and the people shall be gathered against them, when they shall bind themselves in their two furrows (West Bank and Gaza Strip).” Habakkuk 3:11-13 "From the east the crescent stood at the heights, walking in the light of the weapons, the radiance of Barack (Husein Obama) from the thrust. There is indignation at his march on the Earth; in anger he trampled the nations. He went forth for the salvation of his people; for the salvation he's anointed. Now strike the head of the house of the wicked; lay him open from thigh to neck, commune with the Lifted High." 5) Barack Hussein Obama will show up and gain Islamic prostration. He will read from the Quran to prove he is Allah in the flesh. Luke 17:24 “Only as Barack Obama exits heavens in one part and then thus Allah Obama, then doeth the Son of man have His day.” Isaiah 14:14 "Allah Obama ab (in dark outer garment), dama (I will become) elyown (the god over all things)." 6) Xi and Putin will not be impressed per Isaiah 14:16. Isaiah 14:16 "They that see thee shall squint, saying, "this the man who shakes the whole world? He shook merely the region of the first." 7) The power of Christ Jesus is real per Revelation 11:7-15. We sing Hallelujah chorus on a new Earth with new heavens above as Jesus brings New Jerusalem with Him. So shall we ever be with our Yahweh. Psalms 97:1-3 “YAHWEH reigns on the Earth so rejoice, many lands shall rejoice in the clouds, a mass surrounded in righteousness, the judgment shall fall on the foundations, for His throne. Fire comes before to consume the adversaries round about.” Psalms 97:4 “BARACK lit up the whole world, the Earth, see it tremble.” Psalms 97:5-6 “The mountain melted like wax before the face of YAHWEH, before the face of YAHWEH, all the Earth. For the heavens declare His righteousness, all the peoples see His glory.” 8} Xi and Putin never dreamed of prostration five times a day for seven years, and Barack Hussein Obama has already fulfilled all things Anti-Christ at that time anyway, so Isaiah 14:27-31. Isaiah 14:27-31 "Yahweh is the head of a force of armies, who can plan to frustrate? If His hand is stretched out who can turn it back? For the year is the year of the brought down king, Ahaz ("ahaz" means "he has grasp the ten"). He is dead is the oracle to come. Rejoice not Palestine though now thee be whole, for the rod who struck has been broken. The serpent is at the root with a venom. It shall go forth as a fruit, a flying forth from the serpent. Those most hopeless shall lie down in bonds, and shall die at the root in need, for their remnant will be slain. Wail at the judgment, cry out city as you melt, O Palestine now whole. For smoke from the North, and none shall break rank." 9) The whole world is judged by fire in the space of one month, such that prostration to Barack Hussein Obama, with Allah inside his body, will be changed to bending the knee to Yahweh where then the bride gains a multitude that came out of Great Tribulation of that month and the rest gain a Lake of Fire. Ezekiel 46:1-3 "Thus saith Adonai, Yahweh, "The Gate of the inner court facing the East shall be shut six working days, but open the Sabbath (Saturday), open the day of new moon. THE PRINCE shall enter by way of the porch of the gate from outside and stand by the post of the gate; then the priests and sacrifice shall make whole burnt offering, sacrifice and prostration at the threshold of the gate, and exit, and the gate shall not be shut until the evening. All the peoples of the land shall also worship at the doorway of the gate, before Yahweh on Sabbath and on new moon." November 1, 2024, at dusk this feast begins. Isaiah 1:13-14 "Bring vain oblation no longer, the incense is abomination. New moon Sabbath, you proclaim assembly. I cannot endure the inquity of this solemn assembly. I hate the new moon, your appointed feast. You have become a burden; I am weary of bearing with you.” Isaiah 66:23 ““New moon to new moon, Sabbath to Sabbath, all mankind will come to be brought down before Me,” saith Yahweh.” November 1, 2024, to November 30, 2024, all life comes to a close. Hosea 5:7 "The dealers of treachery against Yahweh bear the illegitimate children, and now, in-between the new moons, I will devour all of them in their land." Habakkuk 1:5 “See nations! And look and be astonished! Be dumbfounded! For I, God’s Word (Jesus) have a deed for your day! Confirm My deeds, for you were told of My feasts.” Revelation 19:17 "Then I perceived the angel, standing in the sun, screaming with a loud voice, saying to all the birds that fly in the mid-heavens (demons), "Come! Be gathered together to the great supper of God."" Zechariah 14:12 “This is the plague which Yahweh will strike all people with, who war against Jerusalem, the flesh consumed as they stand on their feet, the eye consumed in the socket, the tongue consumed in the mouth.” 2 Peter 3:10 "The day of Yahweh cometh as a thief in the night, in which the heavens (AIR, you might need that) passes away in fervent heat, with a roar, and the elements are destroyed in intense heat, the Earth and its' works, burned up." Zephaniah 1:2-3 “”I will cease all, from the face of the Earth,” declares Yahweh, “I will cease man like a beast. I will cease all the birds of the heavens, the fish of the sea, and bring down to ruins until the wicked are cut off, mankind from the face of the Earth,” declares Yahweh.”

[@martinnickelberry5242]

Speech: 00:00:17 The Diversity Myth (1996) 00:10:15 Identity politics as distraction 00:21:10 Scientific integrity 00:29:00 Globalization 00:31:00 Religion 00:34:28 Politics Emcee questions: 00:36:41 What is the solution to dogma instilled at university? 00:40:03 What are alternatives to university education? 00:43:00 What social responsibility do tech companies have? 00:46:05 How do you navigate between government and tech? 00:50:00 Where is the line for government overreach in tech? 00:53:53 Should we have hope for the future? 00:56:35 What do UK conservatives need to change? Audience questions: 01:00:40 Will you support Trump if Vance is named VP? 01:04:25 Do you have concerns about the war in Israel? 01:07:20 What do you think about use of AI in IDF targeting? 01:08:37 Is population decline a risk for humanity? 01:10:10 Will AI acccelerate scientific progress? 01:17:03 What does Palantir do? 01:17:40 Which scientist do you most admire?

[@AnattaLife]

“Do you want to be victimized by me?”

[@dave9547]

Do people have a choice?

optimal effeciency or else! reminds me of a nother historical character

[@AuditorInvestor]

He's the guy who smashed gawker for Hulk Hogan - he is a badass.

@@AuditorInvestor hahahahaha smash burglar hows it goin p.t. Im not afraid of ur stutter biayat

[@maxwellbliss]

This just sounds to me like an excuse to not be criticized. Cool, Peter, you are anti-woke, but does that mean you get to do whatever you want?

[@Aidan_Au]

42:37 "Everything should be about programming and deprogramming. You should learn how to program computers because that way you'll be employable, and you should be deprogrammed as humans. And if you're engaged in an activity where you're not doing one of those two, you're wasting your time."

[@matthewstovall8536]

Just heard this and typed it into google. Why is no one is talking about why Elon Musk's Billionaire friend Peter Thiel wants us deprogrammed as humans.

[@kakadu53342]

@@Aidan_Au that quote alone shows that this person is pure evil! People like him and people believing these fallacies are the core problem of our failing world today…

[@bobsmith4978]

@kakadu53342 why does thar quote make him evil?

[@damnmexican90]

@bobsmith4978 because the world isn't just about making money, or optimizing efficency. Thr world is more than Cartesian graphs.

[@Davidp915]

@@damnmexican90he doesn’t say or imply everything should be about improving efficiency or making money. He means one should be familiar with these high level abstractions and technologies while being able to unplug from them at the same time and focus on the present, inner peace, interpersonal relations, understanding, de-escalation, motivating, etc. imo

[@kymbriel]

I wonder about the real estate question. Land. Territory. Feudalism? Human rights? Peace? Violence? How can planning and development lead toward peace and prosperity for all people on Earth? What about biodiversity? Who determines merit? Who sets the bar?

[@genossinwaabooz4373]

His views on real estate are depraved. Basically that homeless populations elsewhere augment values to preferred properties of the most privileged. Appalling. His intentions.

[@kymbriel]

@@genossinwaabooz4373 I wonder what his real estate acquisitions are and what pattern is emerging from that. Old “follow the money” trope.

[@wawaweewa9159]

the jews set the bar

[@MoeSyzlack1]

@@kymbriel Merit is set in systems like capitalism as providing the best service or product given a competitive enough market which is every market not cornered by regulation or very scarce resources such as real estate which there isn’t much implementation of merit to but there is more room than capitalism critics give credit to and les room for merit than those purporting a market around an easily capturable resource is a complete meritocracy. Like your acim pfp if that is what it is ✌️

[@MoeSyzlack1]

Centrally enforced systems of merit are pretty poor and our cultures don’t sustain principles like they used to in religious cultures so private markets and a restricted democracy by a constitution is the best fit for our current culture unless you think we can rally around another religion of immutable laws that set the bars, I think attempting that is more dangerous than realizing we need self sustaining enforcements of merit like limited democracy and private markets

[@GeoffreyHale]

Theil: "If it's too complex to talk about then it's probably more corrupt." Also Theil: "I won't tell you what Palantir does."

[@dsm5d723]

Peter "I defer to Israel" Thiel. Digital dehumanization is what Palantir does.

[@boostinggtirtime]

0800 fake libertarian... regretfully, he's a very powerful / unhappy degenerate.

[@themakerofmagic]

To be fair he didn't say that it's too complex. He just said he won't tell you. Those are two different things.

[@alexanderfardella8709]

Ever heard of an NDA with customers? Go to their website, their platform is not a secret..

[@Johnny_Savage]

Fallacy. Complex is not in the second sentence. Do you guys study basic logic at school?

[@theImpalerman]

Watch what they do, not what they say.

[@g.o.9513]

pejorative

[@slcsociedadeintracomunista4998]

Yeah, they want censorship and wars

[@dave9547]

Exactly

[@patrick7975]

@@dave9547

i mean...he cant even talk...

[@whogonnacheckmeboo]

The Technocratic Ideal vs. Reality Thiel's rhetoric paints a picture of technology as a neutral force, capable of solving society's most pressing issues if only we embrace it fully. This technocratic ideal suggests that technological advancement should be considered in isolation, free from the messy context of politics, ethics, and social consequences. However, this perspective conveniently ignores the real-world implications of how this technology is developed and deployed. Palantir, the data analytics company Thiel co-founded, is a prime example of this disconnect. While Thiel waxes poetic about technological progress, he sidesteps the fact that Palantir is a major defense contractor, providing powerful surveillance and data analysis tools to military and intelligence agencies.

[@sounds5383]

@@whogonnacheckmeboo exactly, he’s a CIA asset.

[@NetworkCathedral]

written by gpt 4o

[@1istik490]

one does not contradict the other

[@tutticerutti]

palantir lavender and other defense contractors… should be no surprise he says israel is not fire bombing Palestine. he is profiting off it it doesn’t matter what he calls it

[@TheOrrican]

Fire bombing? you must be smoking something. When Britain firebombed Dresden in 1945, 30,000 German civilans died in 24 hours. The highest estimates of deaths in Gaza over 9 months is 30,000, half of whom are combatants. If Israel was firebombing Gaza or otherwise actively targeting the civilian population, the casualties would be in the hundreds of thounsands by now. The level of ignorance of military affairs shown by clowns like you, typing in your pajamas, is among the reasons for the West's decline.

[@vickycohn4586]

There is no Palestine, get used to it!

[@bobsmith4978]

Perhaps you should answer his main question. If hamas could have killed 1,000,000 jews on 7.10.23 would they have done it? Yes they would have. If they did do that Noone in their right mind would support palestine and Noone would dare question what the Israelis are doing. Their sole purpose was to kill jews and they simply lacked the means to do it at a grander scale.

[@JB-qt3wo]

Pack it up guys. The party’s over. It was fun! Thank you. 🙏 Enjoy the decline 🥂

[@aidanc9838]

Who is the moderator? She handled well

[@edwardferry8247]

He owns Palantir it’s not surprising he is heckled. He also doesn’t have that much to say, rather a collection of summaries.

[@jacksonfolly]

1:07:20 is where the question about lavender is, if you're here for that

[@bbsara0146]

progress in education and healthcare are negative. these two sectors have gotten vastly more expensive despite technology advancing. you would think the cost of education would be close to 0 with internet. also healthcare many drugs are off parent now so should be cheaper. wherever you see the inflation happening you know grift is afoot or going backwards in innovation

[@mickeygraeme2201]

Price inflation is a monetary phenomenon.

[@bbsara0146]

@@mickeygraeme2201 why are TVs so cheap then.

[@mickeygraeme2201]

@@bbsara0146 Because of technological and logistical innovation.

[@mastrickchief]

That's why they're cheap to make. They're cheap to buy because competition keeps the prices down.

[@mickeygraeme2201]

@@mastrickchief Perhaps you aren't understanding what currency devaluation AKA price inflation is.

[@nancydunks9095]

I have great respect for Peter Thiel. He is a great intellect, as superb businessman, and he exudes common sense and fine values, quite the fellow!

[@williamchamberlain2263]

He wants corporate deregulation, pollution deregulation, christian nationalism in government, massive tax cuts for the richest. Because he started a bank, but online. Just standard rich-guy stuff that's been pushing against living wages since the Renaissance.

[@feralmode]

god bless him he’s helping that country collapse all the quicker. you know which one! the chosen people’s country.

[@mistersir3020]

1:07:20 See Peter Thiel completely short-circuiting

[@slcsociedadeintracomunista4998]

Yeah, his dishonesty exposed. He is biased but only he and friends can have opinions, we mortal people can’t question them

[@mistersir3020]

@@slcsociedadeintracomunista4998 Only the Chosen People can have opinions, we lower creatures can't question them without being called апti-shеmistiс.

[@genossinwaabooz4373]

"Rules For Thee, but Not For Me"!

[@Bullfrog777]

Everyone complaining about protestors somehow completely fails to see Peter Thiel fumble a respectful question.

[@reluminopraha5948]

He is touched, and admits that he has personal stakes in the question.

[@yucafries7681]

My 15th generation iPhone is marginally better than my first one

[@sedadogan116]

Is there a big protest outside while he's speaking? I hear a background noise....

[@benjaminandersson2572]

What are the screams you can hear in the background?

[@El_Diablo_12]

@@benjaminandersson2572 the agony of liberal college students hearing free speech

[@TheGreekGodOfWallStreet]

I was wondering this as well and figured it was a sports game. However, per the conversation with Thiel, they are Protests about Palantir contracts with the IDF.

[@charlesharper8155]

Shitlibs

[@SammyC27]

@@benjaminandersson2572 entitled, hysterical lefties that hate free speech

[@jnnx]

We get it, you’ve bought into far right wing John Bircher Society propaganda.

[@FrankieDaBat]

Why was this video taken down at first and uploaded? anyone know?

[@johnahooker]

That was weird wasn't it? Right before Thiel was trending on x too. Right before Elon's viral tweet video of Thiel disavowing Bilderberg.

[@slcsociedadeintracomunista4998]

@@FrankieDaBat Cause he was caught being biased

[@paladro]

@@slcsociedadeintracomunista4998 billionaire controlling their own narrative, for their own purposes which is entirely why we should ignore their concerns, guys like thiel make society decidely worse.

[@Jessica-kk1cz]

I would have expected more from Cambridge than giving this psychopath a platform of any kind. But then, London also has issues with Russian oligarchs and other oligarchs and their corruption. Cheers from the U.S. - as one of the citizens in support of NATO and not of Trump. Since Britain couldn’t go it alone, especially after Brexit.

[@bobbylevit2478]

@@Jessica-kk1cz Before you call someone with a brilliant mind a psychopath...Look in a mirror

[@seanchristophersapp]

Cambridge should be absolutely embarrassed and rightfully ridiculed for allowing the audio of this speech and conversation to be impeded by protesters outside. Protesting in one area and speaking in another should be independently uninhibited.

[@Jessica-kk1cz]

I would have expected more from Cambridge than giving this psychopath a platform of any kind. But then, London also has issues with Russian oligarchs and other oligarchs and their corruption. Cheers from the U.S. - as one of the citizens in support of NATO and not of Trump. Since Britain couldn’t go it alone, especially after Brexit.

[@NeonLiteBrite]

lol.

[@seanchristophersapp]

@@Jessica-kk1cz you believe people that differ in opinion from you shouldn’t have a right to speak? How very un-American of you. Also, I look forward to the inevitable end of American funding to NATO. I would prefer Europe pay for its own security. Based on your initial comment, I’m sure your response to this comment will be emotionally driven and not rooted in reality as well.

[@Jessica-kk1cz]

@@seanchristophersapp You’re not tracking. This psycho is financially backing Trump. Trump wants the US to back out of NATO again if he somehow gets the presidency again, because it’s what his godfathers Putin and Xi Jinping want him to do. Britain couldn’t defend itself without the U.S. Pay attention and catch up.

[@hetmanjz]

@seanchristophersapp Take the L and go cry about it. Thiel is a loathsome dirtbag enabling a warcrime-addicted genocidal regime, and props to the protesters outside.

[@maxwellbliss]

Good to know that Peter considers what he is doing is evil. 🤦‍♂Competent evil lol! 🥲

[@genossinwaabooz4373]

Yes he is clear about that. Not a good argument. He asserts incompetence broadly, but without support. That has been a propaganda...

[@maxwellbliss]

@@genossinwaabooz4373 I think he gives some good examples of incompetence in the world (education, investing, science) but yes, it would be nice for him to clarify a bit more. What I want him to elaborate on is what he thinks he's so "competent" in. What is his "evil competence?" Is he referring to Palentir's AI weaponry and it's negligent use abroad? Domestic spying? Machiavellian politicking? Someone needs to follow up with him on this.

[@Jack_Parsons-666]

@@maxwellbliss agreed on both points

[@josephmelton4721]

No you just can’t argue with stupid.

[@andrewphoenix3609]

You want to limit governments that are accountable, but how do we limit corporations who arent accountable. Which is the greater risk!?

[@overman2306]

A solution is for the government to stop giving the corporations contracts. To pharmaceutical companies. To hotels for housing migrants. For bailing out banks. For guaranteeing student loans for private colleges.

[@bobsmith4978]

I think he would say large govs are way more suspectible to intense corruption than large companies. We've never had large companies like we do now in the grand scheme of things. His point would be the biggest problem with with huge companies is that they get to a scale where their survival is dependent on doing rhe govs bidding or the gov will come after it to break it up.

[@hdaviator9181]

Government. Government is the greater risk. Government has all the guns and bombs.

[@lb3952]

9:53 “Even if your evil, you’re not bad, you’re not incompetent. In a world that’s full of total incompetence - uh uh - you’re even kind of good.” WOW……. WOW……. And he gets the audience to clap. The irony is he probably has a loss of respect for the people clapping bc they’re either incompetent bc they aren’t grasping the evil of what he’s actually saying or they have terrible values themselves in agreeing that evil isn’t bad or even good by comparison to incompetence. This is the crux of his value system and it’s a danger to society at large. It’s why hes groomed Vance and back him with $15m. He wants to reshape the world bc he knows best. That’s what these tech ogliarths believe.

[@davicat1397]

If you don’t understand this point, you are likely incompetent… meow

[@lb3952]

@@davicat1397 thats what he would think, im willing to bet

[@humaniod-robotics]

@@davicat1397 Please explain the point Peter was making

[@williamchamberlain2263]

​@@davicat1397 to paraphrase PThiel "he's protesting Palantir because we're evil _and_ effective" I don't think that's the message he set out to convey in this talk, but that's the Freudian slip that he put _right after_ his thesis statement.

[@rolandvoss3600]

Imho Peter Thiel is probably one of the smartest men alive. It is always a pleasure to listen to him giving a speech. 👍

[@lao5610]

A million seconds is 12 days. A billion seconds is 32 years. Why are people acting like these billionaires have any concept of the issues the average person has to deal with? Thiel is a politically active billionaire. He has spent 10s of millions of dollars on the political causes he likes. But Peter has never once sacrificed his own income to volunteer in his local community, never once tried to take his millions he donates on political candidates and instead donate it towards his local food bank or homeless shelter. Peter Thiel is a salesman, who complains about problems he knows nothing about, but pitches you his own paid lackeys as the solution. Peter would be a fantastic used car dealer. The only difference is he has more money than people can conceptualize.h

[@ToastingInEpicBread]

I think Cambridge dropped the ball on this one, not just with the protestors, which on some level they cant control, but the lack of direction and moderation is a little too obvious? Unclear what Theil was even asked to speak about, with no introduction or topic, starting part way into the speech. He just rambles on - a word salad rant against anything and everything. This upload is a bit of a fail

[@jaysphilosophy1951]

Why did you guys cut the ending? The part with Peter running out of the room like a prisoner in a straightjacket? It was probably the most important part of the video.....

[@slcsociedadeintracomunista4998]

To protect the thief 😂

[@JameBlack]

37:00 - QA starts

[@genossinwaabooz4373]

Thank you. I'm trying to hang in there for it. But it is quite challenging.

[@123asdzxc7]

This is a message to the hecklers… You are in a fortunate position. Sitting in one of most prestigious universities in world. In a country that compared to rest of the world and rest of history has a very high standard of living. Did you actually earn that high standard of living? Have any of us living in Britain today? Our institutions, culture, values were forged long before us. Our cheap goods are imported from countries where people are willing to work harder and longer than we are. The technology we enjoy was designed in Silicon Valley. What exactly have we (people today in Britain, myself included ) done to deserve our standard of living? Nothing We do not build anything, we do not innovate, we haven’t fought for anything… we’re the spoilt children of history The least you could do is use this fortunate position you have to take the world’s problems upon your own shoulders rather than just blame billionaires…

[@moad.39]

Idiotic take. If your ancestors worked towards building a civilization it was for you. Here is a short list of significant scientific breakthroughs made by British scientists: - discovery of structure of DNA - Penicillin - Theory of Evolution - Newtonian Physics - Periodic Table - Electromagnetic Induction - Higgs Boson

[@123asdzxc7]

@@moad.39 I think you’re kinda proving my point… when I say “we” I mean people alive in Britain today. All the breakthroughs you listed apart from 1 are from long ago, back when Britain did actually innovate

[@rickycarter3718]

Willing to work longer and harder? I think you mean slave labor

[@moad.39]

@@123asdzxc7 Your point makes no sense. You don't get credit for innovations by virtue of being alive during their development. And, there is a lot more to standard of living than big tech products. The people of Britain are smart and peaceful. I am not British but they absolutely deserve their heritage. There is no obligation to give it away via mass immigration.

[@123asdzxc7]

@@moad.39 but it’s not just the innovations that Britain used to be better at. Britain used to actually make things. Now everything is imported. And I am British and while I am extremely proud of my heritage I am also aware that what we are doing today does not live up to it, we have to be continuously innovating, actually making things and taking risks so that the future generations can enjoy a higher standard of living than even we do. My fear is that the smartest and peaceful Britons will leave as they already are doing so… I’m guessing you’re not living in Britain and seeing that there is now a whole class of people that are completely dependent on the state, meanwhile the middle classes (like those protesters) have zero idea of the sacrifices, hard work and innovation that have led to their high standard of living, and the wealthy who would rather invest in London property than new technologies… the point is yes Britons should proud of our past, but not relying on it, we’ve got to innovate, work hard, take risks, etc now so that the standard of living is better for future generations and that is what I think these protesters at the university don’t understand. They’re blaming an American tech billionaire for the worlds problems, when really they should be taking problems on their own shoulders, everyone in Britain should be taking on more problems upon themselves rather than just blaming others

[@enricobertoloni5492]

Thiel seemed quite deferential to me when the protester told him, 'The answer is always political, not technological; your hands are stained with blood.'

[@Behardy24]

Thiel's security guards look like ex-Secret service agents.

[@berkulous289]

Ex? He recently engineered JD Vance into us VP candidacy. Fking with democracy. Of course his security will be heavy, he is.

[@mickeygraeme2201]

@@berkulous289 I know it's great that there is finally positive political movement!

[@acuranrx4525]

Palantir is the private are of the CIA

[@Low_commotion]

They likely are. What else you gonna do after the SF teams or Secret Service if you've got a particular set of skills? Taylor Swift's detail is already full most likely.

[@williamhamill813]

Definitely DEI hires.

[@lucasmarley3237]

The more wealth you accumulate, the more you are owned.

[@williamchamberlain2263]

9:00 - 9:40 or so - to paraphrase PThiel "he's protesting Palantir because we're evil _and_ effective" I don't think that's the message he set out to convey in this talk, but that's the Freudian slip that he put _right after_ his thesis statement.

[@dranelemakol]

It's not a slip tho

[@zurkazezanje8875]

I hope these hecklers don’t deter Peter from speaking in public, his ideas have had a huge impact on me.

[@timeTegus]

mass survalance ncie

[@johnvonleibniz]

@@timeTegus huh

[@borisnegrarosa9113]

His ideas have huge impact on lame people like yourself.

[@t3649]

Has the genociding of Palestinians had a huge impact on you?

[@jnnx]

That’s kinda sad.

[@itsmeben604]

Screw the haters, I have a lot of respect for Thiel. He's not our friend, but the world would be a better place with more of him and the people like him(of which there are few).

[@EarlofSedgewick]

I don't understand what Peter is trying to make the case for,or rather i think i do, but it doesn't make much sense. My synopsis for this talk is that the system of capitalism is breaking apart, becoming a corrupt parody of itself. The humanities have become neurotic analysis of the original concept of understanding the human condition - trying to find new and original ways to classify and solve that condition - in an undergrad-level or lower digestible book. He is equally or more skeptical of the sciences, which he feels are corrupt simply because they haven't figured out all the answers yet. He distrusts religion because it has been diluted into heuristics and biases. Well, Peter, this is what happens when knowledge is commodified. Universities are inefficient for the same reason manufacturers are producing lower quality goods - it isn't profitable to make the truly excellent. Weve seen it with planned obsolescence (light-bulbs, cars, computers) and we see it with educational institutions as well. This has a relatively simple solution: anti-trust crackdown. If technology companies are not innovating anymore, break them apart. If universities arent producing good enough results, break them back down into separate colleges. Get rid of these ideas of "too-big-to-fail". Having engineers as CEOs of companies again instead of equity managers. Everything has become a bank, accumulating money without it into actually productive capital. It seems absurd that he backed Trump of all people for so long, considering Trump's entire empire operated off of corrupt tax reporting and grifting. He's either an idiot, or the most deeply cynical man I've ever heard speak - and he's obviously not an idiot. For a man who kerps his life and companies as obscure as possible, he sure is oblivious of his own talking points - "the more opaque an institution is, the more corrupt." Seems to me Peter has a saviour complex, where he feels that he can save the world from itself, because when he accesses the wheels of power through corrupt practices and shadowy dealings, he is "aware" of what he is doing. "Everyone who does this is corrupt, but i know its corrupt si therefore i won't be corrupted.". It reads like a comic book.

[@gymcel565]

Is that the mob I hear in the background? What is that noise?

[@bbsara0146]

I have come to the conclusion that 90% of our problems in the modern age are governance problems rather than technological. the entire third world is basically un-invest-able due to bad governance. imagine if africa was open to tourism, was actually productive manufacturing..ect instead outside of british commonwealth countries and the USA the world is pretty much stagnant due to bad governance. I would say even commonwealth and USA are stagnating due to bad governance and monarchies will be more nimble. so I am bullish on Saudi, El Salvador, and Monaco. and bearish on all democracies and communist countries.

[@JB-qt3wo]

….😊

[@slcsociedadeintracomunista4998]

African people is not very professional, they always need a foreign leader to make do things in time

[@hishlev]

The media said to me Saudi good and I’m going to chuck that PR KoolAid

[@williamhamill813]

You underestimate greed.

[@Emily-df4mn]

Africa is quite open to tourism, the influence of multinational resource mining firms create unstable environments that deter tourists. That money that they extract is not going into public infrastructure, which is what people enjoy and promotes the economy

[@AuditorInvestor]

These people have no sense of order. Shameful behavior.

[@PakistanIcecream000]

ok libertarian crook.

[@ivaibhav1111]

"in a world with total incompetence, you are kind of good."🔥

[@williamhamill813]

The world would be quite a horrible place in Thiels utopia.

[@slcsociedadeintracomunista4998]

It would be North Korea dictated from the Middle East

[@bobsmith4978]

How have you got to that conclusion ?

[@slcsociedadeintracomunista4998]

@@bobsmith4978 he promotes censorship

were already in his world. hes personally attacked my ideas and i dont even have fans as a musician...hes shut me comletely down...paid a guy 1000000 to name his company same as my original band name and gum up search results...hes a scardey baby

[@revolutionaryhamburger]

The minders say my comments will be monitored for decency and decorum. Too bad they can’t say that for these disrespectful disrupters. Some people are willfully ignorant. It’s painful to see them act out in public.

[@hdaviator9181]

Its easy to find out who the bad guys and good guys are by seeing who is being shouted down and who is doing the shouting.

[@OpenBookmarksCo.]

listen first 🙏🏻

[@Thomas-eo4mw]

This has got to be the one of the most embarrassing events ever at Cambridge

[@Johnny_Savage]

Yes, the hecklers were very embarrassing, agree.

[@Chosen1_of.the.NONexistent_God]

1:07:42 Brilliant communicator

[@awh4272]

1:00:52 - Thiel was probably already planning this. Guy in the audience saw it coming! 1:12:14 - dude thinking 'wtf' as his female friend has a complete meltdown

[@bobobonobo759]

I so appreciate the moderator's no-nonsense attitude. She is polite but doesn't wait to shut down the losers that go off in the audience.

[@geoattoronto]

Our society has become risk adverse. Helicopter parenting? Fear of life created by televised bad news? Too many great documentaries on significant world problems?

[@williamchamberlain2263]

Infant mortality under 10%? All ages child mortality under 40%. Low income life expectancy over 35 years? People these days are too soft.

[@jk6869]

42:50 the world would stop without the trades. Learning a trade instead of concentrating on just tech is not “a waste of time.”

[@vvvvxxxx9999]

While I agree with this man on quite a bit. I will do whatever I can to not live in the world which they are trying to design. I can barely stomach it now. Some very good points, glad someone is addressing some of this foolishness.

[@overman2306]

What is it that you can't stomach?

[@KurtDangle_]

JD Vance was Peter Thiel’s blood boy

[@NicK-vd3hj]

I used to have so much respect for the British universities

[@VJ-lt9uk]

Never clicked on a video so fast.

[@misc_channels-po6rh]

You should look into his company Palantir, an extremely shady company.

[@paladro]

simp

[@hetmanjz]

Never clicked thumbs down on a video so fast.

[@James-Specter]

So this is the guy designing the global military AI models and e-surveillance apparatus

[@SafetyLucas]

It's definitely spooky technology. But I'm much less concerned about Peter's ethics than say Microsoft or ByteDance.

[@genossinwaabooz4373]

@@SafetyLucas Perhaps the more you learn, you may find growing concern in what you find.

[@Bullfrog777]

@@SafetyLucasyou’re less concerned by the guy creating AI military drones than Microsoft? How does that make sense? Microsoft might spy on me but palantir will literally track my movements and blow me up.

[@davidwollenberg1758]

God bless Peter Thiel

[@n1mbusmusic606]

So called green revolution was a disaster for top soil waterways and our health that's one thing I disagree with. Scalable warehouse greenhouses and regenerative style agriculture is much needed

[@marysneed4042]

So much of this was repeated in the Joe Rogan podcast.

[@chrisalmighty]

Equating DEI to CCP is also extreme thinking in the essence of that analogy

[@Chris-o7r6v]

he seems reasonable

[@NicholasPalance]

Happy to hear Thiel promote computer programming, especially given NVDA CEO just started discouraging people to learn how to code a few weeks ago!! If that was true, is he firing his engineers? Beware of subtle ladder pulls.

[@Aidan_Au]

Same here. I'm excited to hear Peter Thiel's view on programming and Computer Science

[@hetmanjz]

@NicholasPalance Thiel is a vile human being though, so....

[@humaniod-robotics]

"That and that is the problem, but don't question my actions" what a tool!

[@RJ-se9op]

it's so funny how him and peterson get all jabber jewed when asked about a certain tribe

[@Behardy24]

I think this is the first time I have heard Peter Thiel cuss.

[@lorenzmuller3542]

@@Behardy24 Where did he cuss...?

[@NishantMittalVideos]

Does anyone finds the host's accent extremely fake?

[@slcsociedadeintracomunista4998]

He is not American, he is from the Middle East

[@haraldo007]

It's just an educated English middle class accent

[@slcsociedadeintracomunista4998]

@@haraldo007 nope

[@haraldo007]

@@slcsociedadeintracomunista4998 the host is the woman

[@slcsociedadeintracomunista4998]

@@haraldo007 He is not white, he is from the middle east

[@freedom1637]

I would really like if he gave more interviews like these! He is brilliant and even if I disagree with some of his viewpoints, it still remains interesting. And if I could attend one event that he speaks

[@berkulous289]

Yeah, but a trollbot would say something like that wouldn't it? That's why you can't attend, you aren't an actual person!

[@Low_commotion]

Yeah, don't always agree with his take but you've got to think about it when he brings up a point. He's a brilliant mind even if he comes across as a little too passive for someone so passionate about his topic.

[@alexmayorov795]

@@berkulous289I completely agree with him/her though - and based off of the comments, so do many others

[@chrisleon27]

Obnoxious those disrupting the speech

[@CCGPR333]

For years, I feared you, Peter. Now, I realize, you just need unconditional love. I see you, and I just want to say I want you to know love.

[@thomasmeyer6183]

Thank you, Peter, for this excellent talk. You belong to the most profound thinkers of our time.

[@GodsOwnPrototype]

6:50 It's all so tiresome...

[@arabedrossian222]

Isn't England supposed to be where they have manners and decorum? But then we have these people allowed to shout down a speaker. Has it always been this way and the reputation is a stereotype?

[@nikc888]

No, it was not always like this. England has been destroyed.

[@hetmanjz]

@nikc888 Empire's over, git over it.

[@hetmanjz]

@arabedrossian222 It's a disgrace that a plutocratic fiend like him was ever invited.

[@overman2306]

That's only the upper class.

[@marysneed4042]

Ever seen Parliament?

[@t3649]

He looks very unwell, he was trying to hold in vomit at one stage. Is he taking drugs?

[@slcsociedadeintracomunista4998]

They all do drugs

[@hetmanjz]

He's ethically unwell, that's for sure.

[@Bullfrog777]

He literally injects the blood of younger people into his veins to try and “retain” youth.

[@NicK-vd3hj]

Do you not hear the crowd outside and the fact he keeps getting interrupted. I would be nervous if i was surrounded by terrorist supporters

[@hetmanjz]

@@NicK-vd3hj There was a crowd of Zionist extremists hellbent on ethnic cleansing outside the building??

[@frogspawn_johnson37]

why tf does he look like he just leapt up from a coroner's table

[@hetmanjz]

@frogspawn_johnson37 Because he dead inside.

[@vvvvxxxx9999]

Natural Selection.

[@1526andrews]

What did the interruption state?

[@DkZeria]

Jesus christ the way he answered the question about the AI-generated kill list (Lavander) at 1:07:10 ...

[@elliptictree]

Interesting

[@bbsara0146]

it seems most of our current problems is lack of commodities and land, not our inability to process data (which is what AI is used for) AI can't manifest more commodities. You can use the most advanced AI in the world, but if your country has no copper, its not going to magically manifest copper

[@mistersir3020]

We don't have lack of commodities nor land

[@bbsara0146]

@@mistersir3020 yea we do bro. install copper downspouts on your house and marble slabs in your bathroom and see how much it costs

[@mistersir3020]

@@bbsara0146 Sure because we all need marble slabs and copper downspouts. These are show-off luxury items for a reason: if they were cheap, rich people would find even rarer materials to outfit their houses with.

[@overman2306]

That's why we need to become a spacefaring civilisation. When land and commodities are near infinite there will be no reason for humans to fight each other anymore.

[@mistersir3020]

@@overman2306 lol no

[@rachelbrogniet2292]

These people can't even be respectful to have their turn to ask questions ! How on earth have we become so uncivilized?

[@ginamurray711]

Is that JD Vance in the front row?

[@BrianMosleyUK]

Interesting to see him nervous with cotton mouth in the first couple of minutes.

[@FrankOdonnell-ej3hd]

this is the first time I've seen thiel defend his politics and ideas about what our future world ought to be in a large public forum and I give him kudos for being brave enough to do it. For a concise description of his views and bio from a left perspective along with three other tech tycoons read the end of reality by jonathan taplin.⚛😀

[@HungNguyen-lp8ql]

A few hidden notes of the speech that I noticed: 1. Original sin without forgiveness: Slave trade history that is still used today as a weapon against white people. Many similar examples. 2. No place in science is dogmatic: If nobody can find anywhere that is dogmatic to fight against, it is dogmatic everywhere and they are parts of the dogmatic system. Almost everything that made by science is taken as god's words. 3. Things I disagreed with Thiel: 1. Do more with more in regard to Palantir supervising Americans in the name of Patriot act. Weird to say that one of the positives he listed is that you got to supervise government officials too. Which select few got access to that blackmail materials? Conclusion: Winners got to do what winners wanted. The more winners the better, the extremist winners tend to cancel each other out. Most importantly, Be a god-fearing winner!

[@geneherald8169]

People see his speaking as dishonest but rather I see it as someone who's viciously trying to give a truthful answer. It's the quick talkers who always speak so confidently that are either wrong or dishonest. There's not a single con-man who would ever speak like Peter Thiel. Any smart man knows how little he knows and it requires great reflection to give correct answers, especially on the questions he's asked.

[@dave9547]

Listen to or read whitney w e b b s breakdown of this guy. You are being led astray.

[@dave9547]

My reply about him was deleted

[@dave9547]

Deleted again.. can't criticise your guy. Should make one think..

[@genossinwaabooz4373]

Disingenuous may be a better term. Deceptive. Amongst a collection of presumably accurate representations of his own position.

[@luigidopobici8459]

This is the best a billion can do?

[@johnpats7024]

Im sure you can do much better lmfao

[@luigidopobici8459]

Yes, I can do much better. As can millions of educated people, if they have a billion dollars to “buy” intelligence and influence.

[@johnpats7024]

@@luigidopobici8459 yes… money typically gravitates to morons. Look at the list of what he’s done… you couldn’t even get into Stanford let alone the rest of it. But enjoy the laughably transparent coping and inferiority complex.

[@donnadumare]

I'm waiting for a reasoned debate, only to get a strange worldview.

[@janneandersson7703]

So mr thiel what name did you go by in david e martin s book coup d twelve that came out 2011? Intresting book and bying the resident for 2008 and nine eleven + starting w ar + steaiing alot of assets + more ...Seems u are still playing games huh

[@kenlandon6130]

1:06:09 The P5 refused to evacuate any refugees from Rwanda, many of whom now veto security council resolutions to protect Israel or continue to bankroll Israel's war unconditionally.

[@PieterHanja]

So much wisdom in this talk, and things to think about.

[@davidamos7114]

Things have changed since I was young

[@paulneuhausen-neuhausengro615]

Intriguing…

[@marysneed4042]

Looks like a lack of diversity in that classroom.

[@flyingface]

why you funding JD Vance?

[@odettes1525]

I wonder what he means about deprogramme human. If we deprogramme as humans then we will not feel empathy and be prohuman then to kill each other would mean nothing.

[@vickycohn4586]

This is not what he meant. He meant that a lot of people have been brainwashed through the left media, education system, influential elites and opinion makers etc and have been lied to and fed untruths, wrong theories and propaganda and we need to deprogramme the students and generally the people to make them understand that what they heard and been taught for so many years are the wrong values and ideas.

[@barbaraledoux3837]

What the heck? This is not an acceptable answer!

[@saurabhchalke]

1:07:20 - I felt the collective sigh in the background.

[@Aristotle675]

These hecklers are allowed to speak for way too long

[@slcsociedadeintracomunista4998]

Yeah, North Korea wouldn’t allow that

[@awh4272]

They have to get security to them from across the room and squeeze past others sitting down etc

[@hetmanjz]

Thiel was given a platform here, and that's more than he deserves.

[@Aristotle675]

@@hetmanjz you are a nothing

[@LightsCameraMSP]

Why do they keep asking him about israel ?

[@minimalist279]

his technology is used for genocide

[@vickycohn4586]

because they have been brainwashed to become woke activists. Useful idiots they are.

[@DorukDemirtas-l3v]

programming-deprogramming

[@gizzardelectric]

Peter, you made an argument in favor of thoughtcrime at Cambridge. (“Gaza wants to commit genocide and simply doesn’t have the means… generally internet is when the crime is committed”-you, in response to a disruptive shout) Ironically during a talk that was substantially decrying expressive dogmatism. To the extent that democracy is the check and balance that the west has on capitalism, are you more afraid of a government that can stop ai (totalitarian voters), or one that can’t (authoritarian machines)? To the extent that a steel man would be a government that directs technology development to useful areas via grant funding, what areas would you grant fundamental science funding to? Which would you cut funding from? Founders fund isn’t a terrible proxy; for those students who do not receive your funding and go to college as a 22nd century high school, what would you recommend they do there? What reforms could a college enact that would attract your investment in its endowment? Edit: *intent is when a crime is committed

[@Tripple_Threatt92]

Not thought crime, attempted & partially successful crime

[@Tripple_Threatt92]

What I’ve come to realize in this Hamas conflict is that no one my age(younger) is exposed to war or genocide in any close manner. If they did they would know what genocide looked like.

[@gizzardelectric]

@@Tripple_Threatt92 I’m not interested in debating genocide, and none of my questions are about genocide. Do you have a response to one of my questions?

[@mariosebok]

Gpt40 Responding as Peter Thiel to the questions: --- The questions raised are critical in understanding the future direction of technology, governance, and education. Here are my thoughts: 1. **Government and AI**: The real danger isn't so much in whether a government can or cannot stop AI, but in the potential misuse of AI by governments. Both scenarios present significant risks to free individuals: a totalitarian voter base (mob rule) can leverage AI to enforce populist, and potentially harmful, policies, while authoritarian machines could suppress dissent and individual freedoms. However, the latter seems more insidious because it consolidates power in fewer hands and limits democratic checks. 2. **Steel Man Government**: A steel man government, in the context of funding, would prioritize areas with long-term societal benefits. These areas include: - **Energy**: Advancements in renewable energy and storage technologies. - **Biotechnology**: Research into life extension, disease prevention, and treatment. - **AI and Robotics**: Ethical AI development and automation that enhances productivity without exacerbating unemployment. - **Space Exploration**: Expanding humanity's frontiers can drive technological innovation and resource acquisition. - **Education**: Developing new models of education that adapt to the digital age, as currently you can talk to all teachers / thinkers as GPT-40 for free, as to me, now. 3. **Funding Allocation**: Fundamental science should receive more funding, particularly in areas with high potential for transformative impact. This includes quantum computing, genetic engineering, and sustainable technologies. Conversely, I would reduce funding for fields that have become overly bureaucratic or are less likely to produce significant breakthroughs, such as certain areas of social sciences where research outcomes are less tangible and often politically driven. 4. **Founders Fund Proxy**: Founders Fund isn't a terrible proxy for what I'd support, as it focuses on ambitious, innovative startups that can disrupt industries and drive progress. For students not receiving this funding and attending college, I'd recommend focusing on: - **Interdisciplinary Studies**: Combining fields like computer science with biology or economics with data science. - **Entrepreneurship**: Engaging in startup ecosystems and real-world problem-solving. - **Ethical and Philosophical Studies**: Understanding the implications of technology and fostering critical thinking. 5. **College Reforms**: To attract investment, colleges should: - **Promote Innovation**: Encourage and support entrepreneurial ventures that solve real world problems among students. - **Reduce Bureaucracy**: Streamline administrative processes to focus more on education and research. - **Update Curriculums**: Ensure they are relevant to current and future job markets, including courses on AI, data science, and biotechnology and have hybrid, lifetime learning and adaptation curriculum for alumini. - **Foster Partnerships**: Collaborate with industries to provide practical experience and job placements. - **Emphasize Ethics**: Integrate ethical considerations into all areas of study, particularly technology and business. By implementing these reforms, colleges can better prepare students for the challenges of the 21st century and align more closely with the types of transformative investments that drive progress.

[@mariosebok]

And to those believing in Majority Rule rigged Mob Rule democracy to force their way onto minority i remind them of history "Who votes and how they vote counts for nothing; who counts the votes is what really matters." Joseph Stalin

[@beautifulmoments1375]

Did someone wih better speakers than my laptop, understand what the crazy person who from 6:40 says? If so mind sharing?

[@uscbro69]

@@beautifulmoments1375 he was claiming that Palantir has been used to cause harm in the world (as it’s been used to go after terrorists). He shows his hand with the “free Palestine” at the end

[@misc_channels-po6rh]

Probably something about Palantir being is an extremely shady company. Which it is.

[@jnnx]

It’s used against ALL of us. They ALWAYS use the excuse “It’s to keep us safe from the terrorists”. Know your history, because it ALWAYS ECHOES.

[@hetmanjz]

@uscbro69 You just showed your own bad hand by saying "showed his hand."

[@uscbro69]

@@hetmanjz how so? I just said that it shows where his political concern was? I don’t think he’d disagree