Canon EOS R1 HANDS-ON first-looks review PRO flagship

[@cameralabs]

My Canon EOS R1 review so far! Hands on with the pro flagship! Order the EOS R1 from B&H: bhpho.to/3Y8Lriw or WEX UK: tidd.ly/3y4DOij Sell your used gear to MPB at: bit.ly/3ULU9yL Buy used gear from MPB at: prf.hn/l/YLqwRAP Buy Gordon a coffee: www.paypal.me/cameralabs Gordon's In Camera book: amzn.to/2n61PfI / Amazon uk: amzn.to/2mBqRVZ Cameralabs merchandise: redbubble.com/people/cameralabs/shop Gordon’s retro gear channel: kzbin.info Equipment used for producing my videos DJI Osmo Pocket 3: click.dji.com/AIOhqT-LWUFDq-bGk8hD4Q?pm=link Panasonic Lumix S5 II: amzn.to/3Hf5IcI Sony A6400: prf.hn/l/pRO0wp5 Sony e 24mm f1.8: amzn.to/2TqWNzk Rode NT USB mic: amzn.to/3AdHcUp Rode Wireless Go II mic: amzn.to/3xkCvGo Rode Lavalier Go mic: amzn.to/3ygzzKY Godox UL150 light: amzn.to/2VpVbXE Godox QR-P70 softbox: amzn.to/3yQfGdF MacBook Pro 14in (16GB / 1TB): amzn.to/3PrKbPV 00:00 - Canon EOS R1 introduction 01:29 - Canon EOS R1 why not global shutter? 03:26 - Canon EOS R1 design and controls 07:04 - Canon EOS R1 viewfinder and eye control 08:40 - Canon EOS R1 screen 09:07 - Canon EOS R1 battery 09:25 - Canon EOS R1 card slots 09:38 - Canon EOS R1 ports and wifi 10:08 - Canon EOS R1 GPS 10:27 - Canon EOS R1 sensor 10:50 - Canon EOS R1 rolling shutter 11:18 - Canon EOS R1 AI upscaling 13:22 - Canon EOS R1 neural network NR 14:32 - Canon EOS R1 autofocus 15:37 - Canon EOS R1 action priority 16:20 - Canon EOS R1 register people 17:49 - Canon EOS R1 burst and pre-capture 18:47 - Canon EOS R1 overheating 19:03 - Canon EOS R1 banding 19:26 - Canon EOS R1 video features 20:30 - Canon EOS R1 video rolling shutter 20:59 - Canon EOS R1 verdict so far Music: www.davidcuttermusic.com / @dcuttermusic As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases

[@nigelwest3430]

I will be sticking with my R3, if the R1 had 45mp and the rest of the spec from the R3 I would have upgraded.

[@cameralabs]

The R5 II will give you the res and most of the AF at least!

[@samebloke]

Personally, I prefer 24mp over 45

[@alansach8437]

I don't "prefer" one or the other, but 24 is certainly all I need.

[@samebloke]

@alansach8437 I actually wouldn't want 45mp so I say I do "prefer" 24

[@aspotterabroad4145]

No one who needs a camera like the R1 needs 45mp…..if you are on the market for a camera like this, it’s all about speed (shooting and offloading) not MP

[@philipkoenig9197]

Gordon, your reviews and first looks are comprehensive and simply the best. You are like an old friend. Thank you.

[@cameralabs]

Happy to help!

[@AI-PhotographyGeek]

00:04 Canon R1: Pro flagship mirrorless camera 02:05 Canon EOS R1 features stacked sensor with new low pass filter for maximum detail 04:07 Built-in grip enhances confidence and robustness 06:06 Canon EOS R1 offers improved features over R3 08:08 Canon EOS R1 offers improved AF accuracy and advanced autofocus features. 10:09 Canon EOS R1 features a faster back-illuminated stacked sensor and upgraded Wi-Fi support 12:12 Canon EOS R1 offers in-camera upscaling and neural network noise reduction for enhanced image processing. 14:11 Canon EOS R1 features impressive autofocus upgrades 16:21 Canon EOS R1 offers advanced autofocus system for sports photography 18:08 Canon EOS R1 offers useful upgrades for burst mode and video capabilities. 19:59 Canon EOS R1 offers impressive video recording capabilities 21:48 Consider if the Canon EOS R1 will meet your desired results

[@JohnSwen-p6b]

I received a copy of the R1 on the official release day. Overall, I am very impressed with the camera. For me the biggest improvements are the large EVF, improved grip, and excellent buffer performance of about 12 seconds (with precapture) @ 40 fps using Prograde Cobalt cards.

[@BW_Maher]

Thanks for the great preview Gordon. I think I've moved on from Canon's "Big Boy" cameras but I'm sure this will be a reliable tool for those that are best suited. Canon pro bodies seem to always go through the same cycle. R3 is a prime example 1. Haters hate and they are broadly dismissed as too low megapixel or not technologically advanced enough 2. In use they outperform expectations and spec sheets and word of mouth eventually reaches the masses that they are, in fact, excellent cameras 3. The next release arrives and everybody talks about how the new camera will never be as good as the one that they all dismissed when it was released. 4. Cycle repeats....... I expect that the R1 is going to prove to be a much better camera than it might appear at first look. Nobody understands that market better than Canon.

[@Laurent_aus_Köln]

I think most haters have one of two backgrounds: 1. They are Canon users but can't afford the R1 2. They are using another brand and will never buy one ;-)

[@Jawad.1]

Yes, after R1's price drops to $4200 from $6300 next year, I also expect 24MP R1 is going to "prove to be a much better camera than it might appear at first look."

[@BW_Maher]

I think there is zero chance of that happening. The 1DX Mark III still lists at its launch price of $6500 four years after launch.

[@Jawad.1]

@@BW_Maher ...then there is ZERO chance of "R1 proving to be a much better camera than it might appear at first look." Canon is living in fools' Paradise!

[@AbcDino843]

@@Laurent_aus_Köln I am a "hater" because I have $6,500 to spend, and I am irritated that R1 is not an improvement enough over R3, it's disappointing.

[@patrickmeyer2802]

Honestly I think the fact that it's a sports camera that's not trying to be a high res studio camera is absolutely fine. Most of the canon pro sports people I know are either still on a 20mp D1X or they've moved to the R3, a faster, chunkier upgrade is perfect for them. When you're sending photos back to your editors over wifi you really don't need a 45mp image.

[@GodOfWaaar]

@@Yupthereitism why?

[@hunglemed]

Canon can put R5ii in R1 body and get the hype from youtubers, but they made R1 for photographers on the field who send thousands files right after shooting

[@jacobnathanielzpayag3885]

I want to see how well photgraphers respond to this one on the Olympics itself. On paper, the R1 feels more like an R3 mk II with lots of improvements but not enough to say that it's a must have upgrade for the upcoming games. Suffice to say, if I am an R3 owner, I wouldn't be upgrading to this, instead, I may consider getting the R5 II. I feel like Canon is doing some sort of forced segmentation strategy or maybe bad decisions during the design phase. From an engineering perspective, I feel like if Canon concentrated their resources into making a 45mp, BSI, stacked, cross-type sensor, then made the R5 II and R1 bodies out of that but made more sensible ommitions like the R5 having a slightly reduced buffer, the R1 having a higher mech. and electronic burst and such, then maybe the R1 would have been more deserving of the 1 series name.

[@adude394]

This first look is definitely up to your usual standards, Gordon. Very helpful information! As a guy who will never be more than an avid hobbyist, though always trying to improve my technique, there's no way I can justify owning this camera. However, as a 61-year-old guy with no bills and with retirement on the horizon, I WANT this camera. I believe it's time to start putting some money aside each week...

[@peterlyonsphoto]

Gordon, your careful, technical review in my opinion is the best of all these early-release videos. No camera is perfect but we’re choosing between such amazing gear… I think you may have bumped me over the edge on this one.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks! PS - if you're ordering online, please consider going through my links, thanks!

[@Simalacrum]

I get that the 1 Series has always been a low megapixel, super fast camera hyperfocused on professional sports photographers - but it really feels like that niche was already filled by the R3 with the mirrorless line. What exactly is the point of the R1 vs. the R3? Is this essentially a straight upgrade/replacement of thr R3?

[@natureredux1957]

Well the technology in the R1 AND R5ii will be implemented in future Canon cameras. That's the whole point. You don't keep making old designs when you have created new ones. Aka the additional processing chip. Sony is doing the EXACT same thing with just about every new higher priced Camera released incorporating their new chip design with AI processing.

[@Simalacrum]

​@@natureredux1957 My question is less to do with technology and more to do with categories and naming schemes - the 3-series camera line just seems somewhat redundant, with Canon now having 2 different cameras in their current lineup filling essentially the same role. I think the R50 and R100 have the same problem on the other end of the spectrum - Canon currently have a very large number of cameras which seem to overlap in use cases, which can be confusing for the customer.

[@quangpham4372]

@@SimalacrumI think it’s well speculated that the R3 was supposed to be the flagship, but then it’s so inferior to the Sony A1 that Canon marketed it as a non-1 series to save face. The R1 is more like an R3 mark II; because if you think about it, will there ever be an R3 mark II, and if yes, how does it compare to the current line-up?

[@cameralabs]

@@quangpham4372 exactly, I suspect no R3 Mk 11.

[@perkristoffersson4153]

The 3-series was a place to test new things while providing nonprofessionals with features similar to the 1-series. The R3 was a testbed for the new eye-control AF and quite obviously not a 1-series (the SD card slot should give that away). A 3-series can be allowed some quirkiness, a 1-series needs to work really well. It is quite possible Canon decided to hold off on the R1 to see what improvements were needed over the R3. It is possible the R3 was a one-off. It is possible the R3 mkII will be the first canon stills camera with global shutter non-ccd sensor. Having seen the price hike of the A9 mkIII and the lessened performance as far as image quality, it is quite understandable Canon stuck with an improved stacked sensor. It's almost as if they are the largest actor because they know what they are doing.

[@-grey]

There's a lot of interesting design choices here in terms of UX considerations and ergonomics. I'd love to have a go with it to see if it's any more efficient and addresses enough pain points, or if it's just over designed.

[@videosuperhighway7655]

Lumix 5ii can do pixel shift and do 96mp RAW No “AI” needed and opengate. Glad I chose Lumix for mirrorless but stuck with Canon 1dxmIII for DSLR for sports/racing etc.. best of both worlds. Sticking with 1 system is old thinking, now having the right tool for the right job. For me its Lumix s5iiX and 1dxIII The issue with Canon is they have to segment product lines ie Cinema ENG/EFP line for video and photo bodies. Where as Panasonic no longer has a Varicam cinema line so no segmentation needed. This is why the s5iiX offers so many more features such as opengate,anamorphic support,LUTs,etc..

[@JaseEvoX]

This just feels/looks like a camera that should have released 3 years ago, decent camera but nothing that really stands out

[@michaelbell75]

Same was said about every 1DX flagship released. Canons flagship cameras have never been high megapixel cameras, that’s for hobbyist cameras. Their flagship cameras are workhorses for professionals.

[@GrainOnTheGo]

@@michaelbell75to be honest, they aren’t entirely wrong when stuff like the Nikon Z9 exist to be honest. The R5ii is a little more interesting but, compared to the Z9 which is lowering in price I feel it’s hard to justify outside of the MP count.

[@jerrylee188]

@@michaelbell75 but the world is changing, this could be true until the mirrorless era because now A1 and Z9 are re-defining what a flagship should be.

[@rumrill5020]

@@michaelbell75It’s telling that one of the most iconic photos taken recently was with a Sony A1 (Doug Mills). With the AP and Reuters video etc. switching to Sony gear, Canon needs to be concerned about losing the professional market. And deep-pocket amateurs, especially those taking up the hobby, won’t choose Canon.

[@michaelbell75]

@@rumrill5020 canon has been crushing it like always. They aren’t worried. Just the fact that it took them what? Four years to allow third-party lenses when people have been crying for years about it saying they were going to switch tells youu they weren’t worried at all. They have the sales numbers to back it up too

[@JoaquimGonsalves]

Excited to see the R7ii when it's time comes, now that Canon seems to have finished guinea pig testing experimental control layouts and also hopefully it will come with a stacked sensor.

[@cameralabs]

I really hope so!

[@falxonPSN]

I really hope they move the quick control dial back where it belongs.

[@youuuuuuuuuuutube]

This sounds like an R3 mark 2.

[@cameralabs]

I agree, although maybe the R3 should have always been the R1

[@natureredux1957]

@@cameralabs Why. The R3 was Canon first camera with a Stacked sensor for mirrorless. Why should they have made it the R1 when they were just starting to play around with stacked sensors. THAT makes Zero sense. They needed time to develop it more. Just because certain folks are not happy about that does not change anything. This is the R1 and the R3 was just that. The R3 and not the R1.

[@kg33ydkm]

​@@natureredux1957with the release of the r3 ii, it's clear now that the r3 was supposed to be the r1. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. Sadly Canon couldn't compete with the A1 specs and is now pressured to release the r1 so now, they made a pivot and released the r1 which should have been the r3 ii.

[@kevinblythe2192]

@@natureredux1957 Where can an R3M2 go now? The R3M1 looks like the end of the line to me ....

[@cameralabs]

@@kevinblythe2192 I was just thinking about that.

[@waveland]

If I provided professional sports coverage then the updated subject ID and sports tracking might seem compelling, but for more general purpose photography and hybrid video there’s no particular reason to switch from any existing flagship. And inside of a year as Nikon and Sony revisit their designs, I wonder if the R1 will have quickly fallen behind. Time will tell.

[@davepastern]

there is zero doubt in my mind that the Z9II and A1II will smash both the R1 and R5II in every aspect. And be cheaper than the R1. If Sony starts popping out a few entry level cameras to take on the R8 etc, and a few good APS-C cameras, Canon will be in big trouble. Those are the only lifelines that have been saving Canon from big market loss. We're like 2+ years since the R7 and we have what, 3 APS-C RF lenses LOL! AF on the R7 has issues with both non Canon lenses and Canon EF lenses...the R7 is so badly crippled in so many key areas it isn't funny (no battery grip, no CFB, very poor buffer, below average EVF for the price, problematic AF just to name a few). The R8 is great, but it looks good because it has no competition at the moment. As soon as Sony & Nikon produce some competition, things will go from bad to worse for Canon. Not to mention the no 3rd party native RF AF lens for R bodies Canon bullshit that they've pulled...

[@ziggggy53ify]

The new R1 Cross-Type AF capability Doubles AF accuracy at the expense of image-processing speed. The new "Digic Accelerator" handles this extra speed with ease.

[@garymeredith2441]

As always Gordon you did a fantastic job here reviewing the Canon R1 I love watching your preview of each camera that you review you do better than anybody else . I have a question on the R1 why didn't they put birds in this Camera , yet birds need to have their own category like what Sony & Nikon have done they have birds in their cameras why didn't Canon .

[@LuigiL75]

Welp...the R3 wasn't enough to get me to upgrade from my 1DXMK3 and this R3 MK2 isn't enough either...I'M GOOD! 😊

[@michaelbell75]

It will blow the 1DX out of the water in speed and AF. You also can’t use superior R glass on the 1DX

[@LuigiL75]

@@michaelbell75 Nah…I’ll stick with my PAID for L series Glass and Paid for 1DXMK3 that has the SAME speed and AF as this R3 MK 2! 🤣

[@michaelbell75]

@@LuigiL75 it doesn’t have the same speed lol. Whatever helps you sleep at night though.

[@Robert_Gonzales]

An r8 blows the 1dx iii out of the water, what’re you talking about

[@petrpohnan875]

@@LuigiL75 "1DXMK3 that has the SAME speed and AF as this R3 MK 2" A textbook example of fooling yourself.

[@dunnymonster]

Gordon's videos are always my first go to 😀

[@cameralabs]

Thankyou, I'm glad you enjoy my approach!

[@PNWDOM]

Hoping the price of R3's drop even further

[@kenfrank2730]

If the price drops then I'll buy a second R3.

[@HamerReviews]

Good video, really enjoyed that overview, great analysis too! I’m a Nikon shooter so I’m not looking to jump ship, but it’s great to see continued innovation from Canon. Though as you say, it feels much more like a R3 II than R1 - feels a bit like the Z6 to Z6 II if you know what I mean

[@cameralabs]

Thanks, and yes, agreed

[@kenfrank2730]

The panning assist feature on my R3 has been very helpful for aircraft in flight photography. But I have been reading the specs on the R1 and I don't see it. That's sad, as I really wanted that on the R1.

[@cameralabs]

Can you explain that one to me and I'll check

[@kenfrank2730]

@@cameralabs Panning assist looks at the speed of the subject and the panning movements of the photographer. It then tries to keep the subject in the same position in the frame using the IS system in the lens. The result is sharper images when panning and less subject blur. Canon says it allows shutter speeds 1 - 2 stops slower than normal when panning. I photograph propeller aircraft at slow shutter speeds to capture prop blur. It gives the photo a more realistic look. And my keeper rate is much more when I use panning assist. Other people use panning assist for motor sports - shooting a race car a slow shutter speed to get background blur and a sensation of speed. Panning assist is only available on the R3 (with firmware 1.4.1). I don't see it included on the R1 or R5 II.

[@cameralabs]

@@kenfrank2730 interesting feature, I'd not seen it, probably as it wasn't in the firmware when I tested it. Let me know what menu it's on and I can check next time I have the R1 and R5 II.

[@kenfrank2730]

@@cameralabs On the R3 menu go to the camera icon, then to number 6. There it gives the option of turning panning assist on or off. Thanks Gordon.

[@tarjei99]

The Pro Capture should be compared to the OM-1. At least for images. How else would one get an impression of the quality of the implementation?

[@justincosplay]

Will a full review be coming soon ?!

[@cameralabs]

I hope to make a follow-up at some point

[@jasyamaha]

That was an excellent review, thank you. I love everything about it except the lower resolution rear screen. It probably doesn't matter though as 98% of the time I'm using the viewfinder for everything on my R3. The only question I haven't been able to find an answer to so far is the number of "My Menu" tabs it offers. I'd like to be able to delete an image even when it's still uploading a large set. I can't do that on my R3. The ability to detect out of focus images is fantastic but I would need it to be able to delete those images or just not send them whilst sending a large set. Still, what a grate start.

[@baekmedier]

Would be nice to see someone put the R1 as a B cam to the new C400... both in C-log 2 to see if they match well as A cam and B cam

[@_SYDNA_]

My sense is that pre-production cameras can be misleading with respect to ISO, but did your test copy seem to have cleaner, better high ISO images? The 12,800 you showed looked better than what I think I would get with my R3. How do you think this faster sensor compared in that regard?

[@mikewinburn]

Hi Gordon! Thanks for another fine video. May i ask what software were you demonstraung the GPS readout from at 10:18 ? Can you edit the gps data there, as well? (I find the data from my !DX3 is often slightly off, even sometimes far off… or only the latitude was captured without the longitude…. And in i am not able to edit the data in my software.). Im looking for software that allows me to edit the GPS data. Thanks.

[@cameralabs]

Hi, that was in Adobe Bridge, but anything that reads metadata will show it. Not sure if you can edit it though, but try searching on editing GPS metadata

[@rockymanilow5115]

I've got my R1 on order 👍👍

[@teethtrainsandcameras2668]

Hi, great preview. One unanswered question across the web, what is that small clear window for just below the playback buttons? Fingerprint detector? Optical receiver? Thanks

[@---us7qf]

Nikon Z9 ii needs this EVF, or just "borrow" the one from the Hasselblad X2D.

[@vashahunt2077]

I’m hopeful the pre-capture can be activated by other means than half press of the shutter. We’ll see soon enough! By the way, American follower here- what is the definition of a Tally Light? Have not heard that phrase before…

[@cameralabs]

Just a light on the front to show you're recording

[@JoaquimGonsalves]

That eye piece looks stupendously comfortable!

[@cameralabs]

It is really nice

[@michaelscoots]

Plus more of a buffer for those with a prominent nose.

[@TheMrNeffels]

R3 mkii Will be interesting to see if they add things like 120fps, more AF modes, etc over time

[@cameralabs]

Does anyone actually need 120fps for stills though? Sony is great at pushing the envelope on sensor tech, but often it's more of a solution looking for a problem than the other way round. Plus with 4k 120, you effectively already have 120fps, albeit at 8 Megapixels.

[@TheMrNeffels]

@@cameralabs not really but speaking personally i do have some uses for it with wildlife. I almost always shoot r7 at 30 fps and just do bursts to capture a birds perfect head angle or more recently I caught a deer blowing a bubble while snorting. for things like that and birds diving into water the higher the framerate the easier it is to get the shot. Personally id rather they just do a 60 fps mode

[@bulletz4life]

when did giant slabs of rubber stop being cool? i dont like this metal grated floor look that they got going on

[@cameralabs]

Yes, it is a little like flooring in the pattern!

[@nineoneten]

I guess photogs covering rugby games will need a firmware update as the ball isn't round and won't get tracked as well ? Glad Gordon got his full size HDMI socket !!

[@joaomoraes8664]

Nice video , congratulations.....unbiased review .

[@cameralabs]

Thanks!

[@flw88]

Well view with great information about this new R1!

[@phillipross6]

Hey Gordon! For precapture stills, I hope the format remains in RAW ?

[@cameralabs]

Yes, It keeps whatever format you chose. I was using RAW+JPEG thoughout

[@iang7007]

thank you for this thorough review God bless you :)

[@cameralabs]

You're welcome!

[@natureredux1957]

Canon USA is apparently already stating that the R3 Camera line will continue. Which if true, that is something I have always believed from Day 1 in spite of those stating and or claiming the R3 was actually the R1. Which really does not make any sense if a person actually thought about it. The Size of the R3 was never right and Canon was NOT going to launch a Flagship Camera with their VERY first attempt at a Stacked Sensor. So there are REAL Good Odds that the Rii gets Canons First Global Shutter for cameras of this type. Which would be par for the course. And it will have a Low MP Count, which will also be par for the course.

[@cameralabs]

If this is the case, then it'll be a while before the next R3 since it would require the R1 to jump forward first. Otherwise they'd be too close. I'm still not convinced by future of R3.

[@JohnSwen-p6b]

@@cameralabs I am not convinced that the R3 will exists either. I remember when Canon released the R3 with the non-fixed rear LCD that they said a 1-series camera would always have a fixed LCD. I guess they changed their minds.

[@videosuperhighway7655]

No reason for me to jump from the 1dx mk iii

[@samebloke]

Can you set a custom button to turn pre-buffer on and off?

[@ziggggy53ify]

R1 Sensor Readout Speed 2.7ms vs Sony a1 4.2ms and Nikon Z9 4.0ms readout. That's thanks to the new "Digic Accellerator".

[@ziggggy53ify]

This means less rolling shutter affect for both still images and video. Yes, the R1 will have visually better control over high-speed object deformation than either Sony or Nikon flagship cameras! So basketballs and soccer balls and volleyballs are going to look rounder in motion on the Canon R1! That's a desirable advantage when you're trying to sell images to Sports Illustrated, for instance!

[@renestaempfli1071]

A9III 0ms readout speed, 24Mpx, R1 2ms, 24Mpx.

[@ziggggy53ify]

@@renestaempfli1071 Sony a9-3 does great in bright daylight, but gets really noisy indoors and in low light and high-ISO. Sony recommends other cameras in it's line for low light work, but all of those have worse rolling shutter than Canon R1. Sony a9-3 can use flash with extremely high shutter speeds, when properly adjusted, but many sports don't allow flash photography. Canon R1 is class leading in all situations when set up and used properly. Larry Chen just used a pair of R1 bodies to shoot the "Drift Appalachia, Summer 2024" event in Kentucky. One of the corners Larry shot from was in dark shade, or possibly overcast with dark shade; very difficult for both video and stills action event work. The results look extremely encouraging but I haven't seen published, high-resolution stills yet. R1 cameras are also rumored to be shooting Formula 1 this weekend. Canon is big in the Summer Olympics in Paris, so both the R1 and R5 Mark II are going to be tested there and Canon will certainly capitalize on the best results.

[@ziggggy53ify]

@@renestaempfli1071 Sadly, while the Sony a9-3 does great in good light, it suffers from sensor noise in high-ISO Low Light outdoors and indoors. There have been several writeups about this problem, and even a partial apology by Sony. The Canon R1 appears to be very good in low light, as good or better than the Canon R3, while operating much faster overall.

[@ziggggy53ify]

I should explain that I am somewhat brand agnostic, with mirrorless systems in Sony and Canon, and DSLRs systems in Nikon and Canon. I advise folks and make recommendations partly on my own experiences with the different systems. I am not affiliated or compensated in any way by any manufacturer, and all my equipment is purchased either full-price new, or used/refurbished, in the same fashion as any other person.

[@whatsonmedia5313]

Why are they charging people in the UK over £2000 more for this???????? $6300 dollars is approx £4800 and they expect us to pay £7K !!

[@maxwellwellmax878]

You guys are Rich!!!!! 🤔😉

[@cameralabs]

Remember our price already includes 20% tax, whereas the US price doesn't have tax added yet. Secondly they have a larger market, so buy units in bigger volume with more discount. Third, Canon UK often starts prices high, perhaps for wriggle room to discount more in the future.

[@karlyabasa]

@@cameralabsexactly Gordon! This is what folks forget, the US price is ex tax.

[@davepastern]

@@cameralabs AUD price is not great...10.5k...the R3 is looking like even more of a bargain and will no doubt eat R1 sales.

[@bitronicc1887]

How did you enjoy your trip to Germany for this gathering? Much better from the last time I asked, during the pandemic, I imagine! Also, everyone should buy a copy of Gordon's book! Fantastic resource to take your photography to the next level.

[@cameralabs]

I always enjoy travelling wherever I go! And thanks for recommending my book!

[@cameralabs]

@mipmipmipmipmip I know, right, the outrage is palpable.

[@cameralabs]

@mipmipmipmipmip I don't apologise for doing my job as a member of the press. I've always been more of a journalist than a KZbinr.

[@peterebel7899]

@@cameralabs BTW: A jood journalist

[@falxonPSN]

​​@mipmipmipmipmipjoking aside, I feel like a lot of people missed some of Gerald's most important and valid points. His point about the culture of timed review releases was dead on, although there's not much that can be done about that. But the point about disclosing compensated travel and lodging is extremely important from an ethics perspective. I know you were just joking, but you'd be surprised at the number of people that think he was completely wrong in stating that people should try to be as transparent as possible about compensation.

[@oneeyedphotographer]

Nuffin for me. I like my moving pixels high res, that implementation doesn't look as good. I like live ND.

[@sunil3135]

@cameralabs How is the R1 viewfinder compared to the A1 II - is the viewfinder image of better quality in the R1?

[@cameralabs]

If you mean size and detail, the A1 is better, but there are caveats to the A1 viewfinder performance as I demonstrate in my recent review of it. Plus the R1 and R5 II give you the eye controlled AF area.

[@1979lucius]

In the rear part of the camera below “play” button next to the “LAN” it seams to be a mini camera? What is that? I can’t find any info about that.

[@VividlineImages]

The ONLY positive I can see about this release is that it’s more like the full frame c70 that film makers have wanted. Buttttttt I don’t know if it is exactly worth the investment

[@Byrkster]

I am thinking of upgrading to a R3 from an R8 I cant afford a R1. Do you think going from an R8 to R3 is ok?

[@cameralabs]

That completely depends on what you want your camera to do and what your R8 isn't doing for you right now.

[@photophilsteingard8374]

Curious between the R5ii and R1 which camera has the best Dynamic Range??

[@cameralabs]

That'll have to wait for final samples to test

[@mack_solo]

16:13 - I want to see "non-circular balls" sports in the 2028 Olympics - that's for sure. 🤪 Solid camera. I was expecting less of higher megapixels, but more in system workflow enhancements: like built-in solid state 1TB or 2TB onboard memory, or broad(er) light spectrum sensor like the tech from Canon industiral arm, extending not only low light capabilities, but adding the whole "new" light for the studio work - something that would actually be flagship-like feature implemented nowhere else in the product line up. It feels like EOS R3 mkii and that's a bummer, cos R3 doesn't need a mark 2 yet. In fact I predict R3 users won't be migrating swept up by the promises of R1 as it stands atm.

[@shawndonnelly862]

I hope they don’t dump the R3 line. It is hard to justify buying the R1 when the R3 is still amazing and less money.

[@cameralabs]

I wonder what will happen to r3

[@natureredux1957]

A rumor site is reporting a statement from Canon USA that the R3 line will continue. I just saw that moments ago.

[@Coatsey007]

Given this has been released two years after the Sony A1, I’m struggling to see the benefits.

[@ArcanePath360]

After the overkill and cost of the R5 and R3, I think this looks seriously underwhelming for the money and bulk. It feels weird having an R7 which is a fraction of the price having 6 megapixels more than their flagship camera. I know mp aren't everything, but still. I'd sooner have a second hand Hasselblad over this

[@ArcanePath360]

@mipmipmipmipmip Yeah, it's just not for me. I'm guessing there is a market for it as with the 1DX. I had the 1DXii for a while and hated it. It was too cumbersome and I went back to using a 6D.

[@falxonPSN]

​@ArcanePath360 I get that the shutter is built for speed and durability on the 1DX cameras, but it was so damn loud that I felt massively self-conscious using it in most situations.

[@ArcanePath360]

@@falxonPSN Right??? It was like a machine gun. It had recoil. It would frighten away any birds doing wildlife with it. Forget doing handheld for more than a few shots with a big lens. You needed to have a rucksack full of rocks to counter balance you.

[@michaelwhiles5282]

Ever more tech for ever fewer customers 😵‍💫😵‍💫🤪 looking forward to a suitable car boot price in a few years time 👍

[@arcadecup]

lovely machine. .wish they would get rid of the flippy screen and have it fixed in place instead!. rest of it is perfect.

[@cy9nvs]

Same concept and same target audience of the R3, how is this not the R3 II? Makes no sense to me.

[@cameralabs]

I think it is kind of like an r3 II, but that's also ok. It's a new, better model aimed at pros, the model number may not be as important as we're all thinking!

[@RICHARDPAUL-jn5hv]

Brilliant and highly detailed first looks review Gordon. I do get the impression that if this camera had been launched as the EOS R3 Mark II this would have been quite credible.

[@eicarshiva]

It doesn't threaten my Fuji XH2s

[@christopher_cdw]

Thank you professor. Definitive.

[@cameralabs]

You're welcome!

[@HumanClouds]

It looks great, specs are good, but I think the R3 is better value for money.

[@cameralabs]

Be interesting to see where its price now settles

[@LiquidNS]

That upscaling actually looks very good! Pretty surprised about that…

[@cameralabs]

Yes, I was impressed so far

[@garymeredith2441]

Gordon my conclusion here is I'm getting rid of my R3 will get A 1DX III to replace it , I just can't stand all the problems I'm having with this camera .

[@cameralabs]

What problems are you experiencing, and are others reporting similar issues?

[@garymeredith2441]

@@cameralabs Gordon this camera was dead in the box when I got it , so that's number one strike against it , this camera has been in for warranty 9 times for focusing issues and eye tracking issues like I stated to you this is worst camera I have ever had period . This is why going back to my 1DX that I have is the best thing that I can do . Canon will not take care of me , they refuse to replace it and the store I bought it they will not help so Gordon tell people do not buy ANYTHING from Allen's camera in Pennsylvania they are nothing but crooks .

[@GungKrisna12]

Maybe we need to wait for EOS R1s

[@obsidian00]

You mean the R3iii???

[@davekettles4371]

canon have stuck to their guns. R1 robust, big, and for sports with killer autofocus, big battery, serious weatherproofing. This R1 seems the best we have ever had in that segment by a country mile. it may be the best that anyone has. Then, if you want to shoot portraits, landscapes, and anything just a little slower - and perhaps even wildlife with some cropping, the 5D series will be more than enough. In every respect. Whats not to like? The pro's are already raving about their time with the camera. I think many influencers are distressed because they hyped the spec, assumed canon was going high megapixel with the 'flagship' and now have egg on their face. So, it must be canons mistake. Umm....not really. Turns out even the specs ridiculed by the youtube fanboys is helpful at times for pros, like up res in camera etc .....time will tell.

[@Serenoj69]

The AI looks fake, oversharpened and cannot be compared (at all) with in camera stacking of pictures. It does not add resolution, it does not add true colours (or at least the bayer array is still there where it is lost in most Pixelshifts) and it does not add better dynamic range and lower noise. May be in reallife it is still useful but from what I saw I am not conviced at all.

[@falxonPSN]

Yeah. It's baffling why they didn't at least give you the option in addition to the AI scaling business.

[@vispolonia2670]

Is it a hands-on or full review Gordon? ;)

[@cameralabs]

Just a hands-on first-looks. Not a full review. But I probably show more than many first-looks have!

[@AstairVentof]

I really don't understand why the choose to not have pixel shift and instead gave us fake detail and if I heard right it just gives you a jpeg. If they want to include their AI stuff why don't they include both as the obvious choice.

[@chrisbouris3699]

utter disappointment after so many years of waiting. goodbye Canon

[@Jawad.1]

Exactly!!! Canon is answerless to Sony A1 and A9III

[@Jawad.1]

The moment Canon renamed its R1 to R3 after Sony released A1 4 years ago, I already knew Canon is no more!!! What will happen to Canon when Sony will release A1 II with 50MP and global shutter?!!!

[@vivalasvegas702]

@@Jawad.1 same conclusion by dpreview and photostophotons, IQ is a 100% “compromised”; apsc level DR, very noisy iso performance, no base iso and raw buffer is forever.

[@davepastern]

@@vivalasvegas702 less unbiased sources show that the DR is about a stop worse than the R3 for the A93. High ISO similar. Hardly an issue for sports & photojournalism. AF, FPS etc are more important. And the A93 trounces the A1 in this respect.

[@EverythingCameFromNothing]

First!…..i mean, YOU’RE first!! 🤪

[@cameralabs]

I'm sure there will be MANY more, but I hope you enjoy my calm, hype-free approach!

[@cameralabs]

@mipmipmipmipmip my arm might fall off

[@Cestariarts]

It looks great. That's all

[@TheBigBlueMarble]

The Canon R1 has fallen victim to the age-old and widely held bias that the most important spec by which a new camera is judged is MEGAPIXELS. If the R1 had released with all the same specs but with at least a 45MP sensor, there would be no doubt that all the "experts" would hail this as the new Canon flagship. Instead of questioning Canon's use of the term flagship, they would be talking about the fast sensor read speed, what is possibly the world's best AF, and the new upscaling and noise reduction capabilities. And the sad part is, Canon's product managers should have known this would happen.

[@cameralabs]

As I said near the start, Canon's pro bodies have been 18-24mp for ages, so this was never going to be more.

[@TheBigBlueMarble]

@@cameralabs Yes, we are approaching the point of diminishing returns on MP. I think the upper limit for mainstream cameras is about 50MP. Above that will always be specialty cameras.

[@zeiss1382]

@@cameralabsI would have thought the R1 would have a high chance at being around 45MP. For one, the A1 and Z9 pushing the envelope for flagships. And maybe more importantly, the R3 filled the 1dx void quite well. Canon can’t keep with the old ways forever or they won’t keep up with the competition.

[@cameralabs]

@@zeiss1382 Canon does listen to their pro shooters and they clearly seem to be saying 24 is enough for them! Plus remember Sony's A9 III, their top camera for sports, is also 'only' 24mp, although that's more a limitation of global right now. If Sony is capable of pushing res, they always try to do so even if no-one is asking for it.

[@zeiss1382]

@@cameralabs I think 24MP is great for those professionals. But Canon has so many 24MP cameras and only 1 high option that they will never fully feature. I think the market is changing and Sony and Nikon have figured it out first. Love your channel by the way!

[@grimfist79]

R3 MkII

[@btecww]

Great review Gordon. You are the best. This is not a compelling flagship. Nikon and Sony has better offerings. This is a Failship. I am keeping my R3. Pricing, value and software gimmicks are a miss after a 4 year wait. I will use the Canon system knowing compared to my colleagues I am megapixel deficient

[@cameralabs]

The R3 is still a tremendous camera

[@tomkates9690]

Good review but you got the sync speeds wrong. 320 is the fastest sync speed with efc. It’s slower with electronic. You said it was 400 with electronic. That’s apparently incorrect according to Canon.

[@cameralabs]

Grrr, that's the spec they gave me

[@tomkates9690]

@@cameralabs yes I’m upset that it is not better. I’m looking now at canon U.S.A. web site on R1 and it is saying mechanical shutter sync at 200th and EFC at 320. Is there something missing?

[@cameralabs]

@@tomkates9690 hmmm, Canon UK specs say "When Cropping/aspect ratio: Full-frame/1:1/4:3/16:9 is set: 1/200 sec mechanical shutter / 1/320 electronic 1st curtain, 1/400 sec Electronic shutter".

[@tomkates9690]

@@cameralabs Wow, this is news to me and definitely not in any of the USA based specs that Canon out out today. I would be thrilled with 400th is a second electronic sync. Any way we can confirm this?

[@cameralabs]

@@tomkates9690 I'll ask them

[@moviereview-rw2xs]

clog2 full hdmi proxy file enough enough..🔥

[@justinjames403]

Its actually hilarious that no can present a sane argument/point, if the word is "cropping" is removed from the conversation about MP 🤣🤣🤡🤡 If you want high MP then go to R5m2 which can smoke any Z9/A1 out there at that price point. Its ACTUALLY good that Canon decided to stay away from the "MP hype" and made products that the TARGET audiences wanted.

[@Addis2333]

I like R5II~~

[@creamynessification]

Z8 and z9 and z6iii are better options

[@JaredRibic]

Love your reviews. Pre-ordered the R1 first thing this morning. It seems it will ship toward the end of November.

[@cameralabs]

You're very welcome! Bonus points if you pre-ordered via one of my links!

[@falxonPSN]

It's not a proper camera release until a certain British guy does a review.... 😉 Really good preview of this camera. But it's really disappointing given what they could have done versus what the R3 already does. Some nice improvements in autofocus, but that's basically what we were expecting.

[@cameralabs]

Do you mean Kai? Hope you enjoyed mine anyway!

[@Jawad.1]

But where is Canon's answer to 50MP Sony A1? This 24MP R1 is actually an R3 II; and we are yet to see the 'true' R1, that rivals the Sony A1 or the upcoming A1 II.

[@cameralabs]

The r5ii is close to a1

[@Jawad.1]

@@cameralabs Sony A1 is a 4-year-old camera, that compelled the Canon to rename its RI and release it as R3, back then. You say that R5 II, released after 4 years, is "closer" to A1. I don't think so. R5 II's Flash sync and sensor speeds are a lot slower than A1, Sony A1 has Gyroscopic stabilization, Viewfinder on A1 is bigger and sharper than R5II, Max shutter speed on A1 is 1/32000 compared to 1/8000 on R5II, A1 has Ethernet port, whereas R5II doesn't, A1 has Flash Sync Port whereas R5II, doesn't. Even a 4-year-old camera is better in aforementioned regards than "latest" Canon R5II. Now don't tell me that A1 is pricier than R5II because it is you yourself who pitted R5II against Sony A1. Now wait till Sony releases 50MP A1 II, with a Global Shutter, that obliterates the already shaken entire Canon camera lineup.

[@Jawad.1]

Sony A1 is a 4-year-old camera, that compelled the Canon to rename its R1 and release it as R3, back then. You say that R5II, released after 4 years, is "closer" to A1. I don't think so. R5 II's Flash sync and sensor speeds are a lot slower than A1, Sony A1 has Gyroscopic stabilization, Viewfinder on A1 is bigger and sharper than R5II, Max shutter speed on A1 is 1/32000 compared to 1/8000 on R5II, A1 has Ethernet port, whereas R5II doesn't, Al has Flash Sync Port whereas R5II, doesn't. Even a 4-year-old camera is better in aforementioned regards than "latest" Canon R5II. Now don't tell me that A1 is pricier than R5II because it is you yourself who pitted R5II against Sony A1, as I was alluding to Canon R1, which happens to be as pricey as Sony A1. Now wait till Sony releases 50MP A1 II, with a Global Shutter, that obliterates the already shaken entire Canon camera lineup.

[@shade599]

My dream camera 📸

[@melvinjohnson7033]

Thats it lol! What a huge disappointment after such a buildup.

[@phillippugh2161]

This is a money grab . Get yourself a used R5 $1500 an keep it moving. Spend the extra money on the 70-200 2.8

[@Nearest_Neighbor]

Here I am with my 5D.

[@cameralabs]

Nothing wrong with that

[@JessDemant]

I'm tired of all the specifications, because today all top models can do what most people need, but if it really should have had something that showed the future, it would have been Global Shutter ! ! !

[@cameralabs]

But what if global shutter was detrimental to the image quality? Or added 2-3k to the price? Would you still want it?

[@JessDemant]

@@cameralabs That it will be as expensive as the Sony A9III is a problem?

[@renestaempfli1071]

​@@cameralabsImage quality above ISO 800 is no big issue. Almost all high speed pictures in sports and concerts are above ISO 800. The advantages of a GS are far greater than the small loss of image quality at low ISO. I am shure you know it too.

[@dtibor5903]

It's not for pro photographers, it only for pro SPORTS photographers.

[@cameralabs]

Pretty much, although some wildlife too

[@dtibor5903]

@@cameralabs well, a r5mk2 is definitely better for wildlife

[@yuidfbse]

16 YEARS AGO MY NIKON D3X WAS SHOOTING FULL FRAME 24MP. Yeah, it's been 16 years and my question is what are we doing here? For those still arguing where technology and innovation is going and why this is a helplessly dying business, think of what kind of photos and videos mobiles phones shot back then and what kind of photos and videos they take now. And let's not go to the "megapixels are just a small part of the equation" or you really need to go take emergency math lessons. I am not talking megapixels or that cameras are not getting better (at snail speed). I am talking about not being anything else to talk about in the camera world that is a dying fossil on its knees something that even the blind can clearly see. Heck even 25 year old cameras reviewed on Gordon's other (awesome) channel hold their own.. a quarter of a century later. We are going nowhere folks, nowhere.

[@CEEPMDEE]

My Canon 1DC, 5Ds still relevant thanks to lack of improvement on Canon's behalf. My Sony A7rIV still unmatched.

[@Serenoj69]

It does seem that when it concerns smaller sensors and as far as I remember in particular microfourtheards 20 MP and 25 MP sensors are noted as a downside. I think I recently read somewhere in a review that 20 MP in the Olympus OM1 or Om2 was already there in 2015 in the EPL whatever camera. But I see really no such remakrs virtually anywhere when it comes to FF. Whereas like you say it is more true for those cams than for any mFTs?

[@cameralabs]

glad you enjoy my other channel!

[@alivarasteh]

nikon z9 is a better camera for less money😛

[@xmj6830]

1 DX MK III should go on sale. Well done Gordon

[@cameralabs]

Yep, with any luck. Maybe the R3 as well...

[@videosuperhighway7655]

Would be nice, add one as spare. No reason to jump to the R1 for me.

[@JEmmertz]

Finally!

[@JEmmertz]

After watching: Hmm.... I can definitely see some things I like about the refreshed design - parts of the button layout for example. But, I can also see quite a few things that I'll probably hate a lot in the beginning. It sure looks capable - as it should, being a flagship model. For now I think it ticks more of the "I want" boxes, than the "I definitely need!" boxes. That makes me think I will continue to lug around the 1Dx Mark III for quite some time. Seriously looking forward to a more in-depth review as soon as you can manufacture one. If you make it a comparison between the mirror slapping 1Dx, the R3, and this new beast I promise to not get angry with you. 😉

[@naga2015kk]

the LASTEST flagship is below A9mkiii..... Announcement is about SONY as the leader of the pack.

[@cameralabs]

True, it doesn't have global benefits, but there's more to a camera than that

[@MarkAlderson]

Looking forward to your final review, but I'll be sticking with my new R6 MkII for now. Thanks Gordon!

[@FireImageFM1]

The educated 80D congratulations