Canon R1 Hands On First Look | FLAGSHIP??

[@mikewinburn]

Great question at the end… answer … NO I am 1DX, 1DXII, and 1DXIII owner… was holding out for a flagship R1. I’ll be keeping an eye out for the R1markII at this poing

[@LuigiL75]

@@mikewinburn I left Nikon after the D6 fiasco, picked up the 1DXMKiii and I have been ecstatic ever since…didn’t upgrade to R3 and not going to upgrade to this R3 Mark ii either!

[@mikewinburn]

@@LuigiL75​​⁠- that makes sense. Having owned the 1D4, the jump to 1DX was exciting and truly a major upgrade. If I had to do it again, I would skip the the 1DX2… very incremental….but a fair upgrade from the 1DX. Now, the 1DX3! I am sooooo glad for it. Major upgrade … except… not gonna lie… 20mp .. meh… still disappointed in this even today. Even the RP turns in more detail given the same shot… and don’t have to crop… yeah… there’s that. In this case, the new R1 has some nice upgrades, for sure…. Honestly more in mind a R3 upgrade akin to the 1DX to 1Dx2… and yep, I’d skip that if doing it again… oh,wait… 1DX3 to R1? … there we go.

[@LuigiL75]

@@mikewinburn ALL Canon had to do was to put 36MP on that sensor and I would have been ALL over the R3 but NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! 🙄 What shooters like you and I WANT (for the most part) is a 1D body/ergonomics with a sensor size that if we DO crop, it won’t “hurt” the image all that badly! Are you telling me they couldn’t have put the R5 sensor inside of that R1 body??? Hell, they could have used the OLD sensor from the first R5!!! 😡 Canon is just NOT into Photography anymore…it’s all about video specs now! 😕

[@isotechimages.9130]

That exactly what l said Dan it a R3ii more than an R1.

[@mikewinburn]

@@LuigiL75- hahaha… yes! This! They’d have had my money at 36mpx Seems like, yes, focused on video camera improvements… that can also take nice pictures instead of the other way around, now. Um… they’ve forgotten they have the C70 for video shooters (and had they put a full frame in that, I’d have bought it in a heartbeat)

[@TomasRamoska]

This is R3 mkii

[@learningcameras]

Feels like it. Still an awesome camera and this would have been an awesome R3 refresh

[@TheChadWork2001]

And those who paid full price for R3 got ripped off.

[@Makta972]

How so ? I love my R3, used it on many jobs. In fact the R3 is so good even years after the R1 barely tops it ​@@TheChadWork2001

[@RajahJF]

I feel that if there was no R3, then this would be a hit... But now the question is where do they go from here with the R3? Will they keep making it for the same target audience as the R1, or do the reinvent it for those who love lots of megapixels.

[@parmanduke]

@@TheChadWork2001 Already being heavily discounted everywhere

[@Grr8jon]

7:27 doesnt the sony a9iii shoot 24mp 120fps RAW with it stacked CMOS sensor?

[@learningcameras]

@@Grr8jon it has a global shutter which is a different sensor type. The advantages of global shutter are speed and instant readouts but it does come with a quality hit since it can't pull as much light as a backside illuminated stacked sensor which is on the R1. Of course Sony uses backside illuminated stacked sensors in the A1 and that's over 2 years old and hits 30fps at 50mp

[@MichaeltheDentist]

Hi Dan, one question for you... I have an R1 on order and now the release of the C80 threw a temporary seed of doubt my way. You mentioned that the second clean ISO is at 12800 in CLOG 3. Does this hold true for CLOG 2 as well?

[@learningcameras]

Hey! I didn't test in CLOG2 so I'm not 100% sure if there is a change for a 2nd clean ISO. All my Canon cameras only have CLOG3 so I'm used to grading it and didn't want to take the risk shooting CLOG2 until I spent some time with the profile. Unfortunately I'm not sure when I'll get the camera back in for a 2nd test but I doubt it's the end of the year best case

[@MichaeltheDentist]

@@learningcameras Thanks for replying!

[@ritammelgunov]

Great review! Clear, concise, reasonable and practical. Not like many howls on KZbin that it's not flagship. Canon has given to people even 3 flagships, and they still howl. If someone need high megapixels, R52 offers that in a superb flagship camera. R1 is perfect for top sports and events for which it was always aimed. I am sure the real pros both in sports and wildlife photography will be most happy to get R1 and R52 respectively. Those tho howl and complain are mostly theoretical pixel peepers (i.e. not quite adequate people) who will never use these cameras at all. I shoot wildlife with Canon R7 and R8. Very happy with both cameras taking photos which win awards at top contests with both cameras. Don't feel any difference resolution wise in image quality. One peculiar thing about the resolution. I use pre capture a lot. R8 is preferable for pre-capturing fastest action because it saves the pre capture bursts sensibly faster to the card allowing to take new burst much faster, it's just because it has the lower resolution! So for capturing fast action lower resolution proves more effective! Canon R52 is clearly a dream camera for wildlife photographer in every respect. Perhaps it's the best wildlife camera for wildlife now. It looks very attractive to me, so fantastically and universally capable. Few words about comparisons. For me pre capture in Raw is absolutely important for effective wildlife photography. Therefore I would not even consider buying a camera without pre capture in Raw. Nikon z9 and z8 have pre capture only in jpeg. So they can't even compete with Canon R52 and R1, just because of this one feature already which is absolutely crucially important for taking effectively amazing wildlife shots. As for Sony a93, it's only advantage is 120 fps. But how many people do really need 120 fps for their shooting? I photograph butterflies in flight. When butterfly is taking off it does it with tremendous speed. Even for that speed 30 fps burst with pre capture is enough. Humans and other animals move much slower. So for any other actions 30 fps is more than enough. R1 offers 40 fps. When shooting on such speeds it's real difficulty to sort out so many photos. For shooting at 120 FPS it's much more heaps. If I would have 120 fps mode, I would not likely to use it at all even with my extreme types of action photography. The majority of people don't need such speed at all. If someone really needs so much not leas than 120 fps, fine let him buy sony a93 and bear with lower IQ and bottleneck in the buffer and record to the slower cf express type A on Sony a93 and with worse af and ergonomics. While R1 can shoot 40 fps unlimited without any bottleneck. Better AF and shooting 40 fps without bottleneck makes R1 more effective for top sports. I am sure Canon R52 is going to be the most popular camera in its class now. R1 will also be extremely popular with the real pros at whom it's aimed. There are already very positive feedback from top tier pros about both R1 and R52.

[@massisenergy]

12800 ISO! should highlight this in the video title, came here from somewhere else looking for the second dual base ISO values, which no one talks about…

[@natureredux1957]

Some people are clearly confused about Flagship Cameras because they are the Sum of their parts. So all the MEH commenters are never going to get that, ever. Also, by far the most important part of a camera regardless of BRAND is their AF. Not the MP Count, not the sensor speed in this Category since they all FAST enough, and most Folks noting Video specs would Never use those specs to begin with. This is a Niche Camera for Canon. Their Bread and Butter Cameras are the R5/R6 series. If they add a proper stacked Cropped R7ii, then they would have what neither Nikon nor Sony has. So Canon has done perfectly fine considering their late start into mirrorless.

[@POVwithRC]

😷 Much copium huffed. There was only one MEH commenter, go argue with him directly. Stop being passive aggressive.

[@learningcameras]

For a flagship camera, I expect it to do something the non flagship camera can't do. But it's just a small improvement of everything already in the R3. If there was an R3 mk 2 introduced tomorrow, I have no clue how it would be any different to the R1. The only thing for Canon to maybe do is to make the R3 global shutter if they have the tech to do that

[@harryvuemedia]

@natureredux1957 you're seriously a canon sheep. The R1 is literally an R3 mark ii. Nothing great about it or has any WOW factor. Autofocus has been maxed out now. What more can you do with it? Canon, Nikon and Sony have maxed it out where it can autofocus quickly, detect certain subject and stick onto that subject. Besides that, autofocus is subjective too. I still have to rotate between 3 focus mode when Im shooting sports, events and portraits because there are certain objects or subjects that I need to focus on. And the other things you are talking about literally tell us that you know nothing about cameras. Good thing you're not in the engineering department because you would be the reason why Canon would go bankrupt. You sound just like Steve Ballmer, Kodak and Blockbuster right now.

[@sarbelv1lo]

​@@learningcamerasand they do 😊, canon already developped 5 global shutter sensors (2 for industrial use, 1 is in a c700 option, and 2 new one this year (both less than 20mpx) but no idea where they will go.. Canon do loads of patents in this sense, but i believe they havent reach a way to do a global shutter cheap enough with excellent DR to put it in a camera that will cost less than 7k.

[@livestreamsuk6004]

Yeah 1 series good enough for world Olympic sport photography professionals but not for KZbin commentators. It’s kind of hillarious

[@parmanduke]

Doesn’t seem to be much of an upgrade unless you need that upgraded af. Agree with many others who say this is the R3 Mark ii

[@obsidian00]

I have been a proud owner of a 1DXMiii since 2020 and No...this R3 MKii (That's what it is) isn't enough to get me to jump to a RF body...not that strange considering that the R3 wasn't enough either! Canon can keep playing these silly games all they want and I will just sit here hoarding EF L series glass and maybe another USED 1DXMKiii body at substantial price drops! 😊

[@dreadnoughtphotowerkz]

Quit hating on the Canon R1. Just don't buy it. And if you already shoot Canon, sell all your gear and go to another brand. As a photographer of sports this camera is awesome I already use the Canon R3 which is a beast and the R1 would just be an upgrade as far as I'm concerned.

[@learningcameras]

I didn't hate on the R1! In the first 5 seconds of the video I said there is an issue with the R1...but it's not the camera, IT"S THE NAME! I hated on Canon naming it the R1 but that's it. How is that hating on the camera lol

[@kg33ydkm]

You guys do be drinking that Canon Kool Aid. Canon charging USD6200 for a camera which is a marginal upgrade to the r3 is laughable.

[@dreadnoughtphotowerkz]

@learningcameras I guess I'm just tired of all the negativity that's being brought onto the camera. Rumor sites have really done a job on it. That plus all the fake specs that were given out for years about this camera. And honestly it's not necessarily the camera that gets the shot, but it's the photographer that makes it happen. Great photographers have taken absolutely outstanding sports photographs for ages with less sophisticated equipment.

[@learningcameras]

@@dreadnoughtphotowerkz I definitely agree with that. Keep in mind what I'm doing is reviewing the camera... so I'm pointing out the pros, flaws, and how it compares to the competition so you can decide if you want to get it. Honestly all cameras these days are good enough so it's about you being able to make an informed decision on if you should buy a camera

[@JohnSwen-p6b]

You are correct!!!

[@mrdamiansingh]

Im sure they will probably discontinue the R3

[@jackeubanks6687]

I own every Canon Flagship. From every version of the F1 to the T90 to every Film EOS 1 series and every 1D series camera body. The R1 is exactly what canon said it would be, and exactly what it’s supposed to be in the line of succession. The R3 was a stop gap, just like the EOS 3 was. These things are built primarily for speed, low light performance, redundancy, reliability, and the ability to use them in a snowstorm in Antartica in sub zero temperatures, a monsoon in the tropics, or in a sandstorm in the Sahara in summer. Not necessarily recommended use cases, but you can, and can reliably if you need to. They are built to work, and last, every time you pull them out of your bag. If you need different features, then you need a different camera body, which is why the 5 series exist, and why we will probably see a 5DsR successor at some point, most likely north of 80MP in the next couple of years.

[@HiethGeorge]

Thanks Dan - I have just Pre-Ordered mine I may have missed it but you said it sort of has Dual Native ISO at 12800 but did you say what the Native ISO is ? Is it the same as my R3 ? Cheers Hieth

[@learningcameras]

Awesome!!! So in CLOG3, there is a native ISO at 800 and a dual at 12,800. For photos it will be different...typically there is a boost around 400ISO on these sensors and I expect it to be about the same

[@HiethGeorge]

@@learningcameras cool for that so that is the same as my R3 in CLOG3 would it be the same on CLOG2 ? will be off to watch your R5mkii video now as that is on preorder to and wonder what the native ISO will be on that

[@learningcameras]

@@HiethGeorge I'm guessing it's the same as CLOG2 but I haven't tested that yet. Awesome! Spoiler, ISO in CLOG3 on the R5II is 800 and 4000

[@HiethGeorge]

@@learningcameras awesome thanks for that Dan chuffed with that on the R5MKII

[@gregs4163]

Olympus had 159 all cross type auto focus points on the mirror-less EM-1X years ago!

[@badboyvr4]

Yep, with a crappy 4/3 sensor...lol!

[@josefmolina3510]

We talk about cameras and not toys.

[@janvanholten7592]

Lets see how it is concerning dynamic range, noise in the high iso, the speed and accuracy of the autofocus system and the amount of details in the images. From the R3 I know you've got nice detailed images and as long as you don't crop 75% away from the original, it's a good camera for even wildlife and birds. And yes, I shoot birds and other wildlife!! Only thing, the price in my country Holland is foolish. Euro 7.400 is over the top. Stick to the same price like in dollars, so Euro 6.200. Something like that.

[@RogerZoul]

I wish Canon had just stuck to their guns and let the R3 have been the R1 back when the released it. Now, this new R1 would be the R1m2. They screwed up then and it seems there is no escape from that mistake. They also need to get a new CEO who is more in tune with current times.

[@learningcameras]

They also just fired some top people including Rudy Winston as a "reorganization" effort. Rudy was absolutely amazing and I just saw him at this press event. I'm worried that bean counters are running the show

[@808islandlife_HI]

@@learningcamerasWow they fired Rudy?

[@learningcameras]

@@808islandlife_HI yeah...hung out with Rudy a lot at the event and he was amazing and received feedback so well

[@AndyBaker-z2g]

And the OM1-- the OM-1 has 1,053 point all Cross Quad Pixel AF for high-precision focusing. Every point is cross-type, enabling detection of vertical and horizontal lines for unmatched accuracy.

[@learningcameras]

Good to know!

[@adhi_atma]

right now, the difference between canon and other camera manufacturer are very clear . Canon define flagship as the top spec camera means for their most important customer (photojurnalist) .meanwhile other manufaturer flagship means top spec'ed for broadest user & use case.

[@learningcameras]

I think it's more that Canon starts with hardware when they design a camera and Sony starts with a sensor. So sometimes the cross point of where those meet in an actual camera is different. But also, Canon has a new CEO and just fired some important people so there might have been marketing changes at play

[@JohnSwen-p6b]

Very well stated.

[@TJIzzy]

I'm assuming the R1 doesn't have any overheating issues since it isnt mentioned anywhere?

[@learningcameras]

@@TJIzzy it will have far less overheating issues because it's only oversampling 6k instead of 8k on the R5II. Plus the larger body seems to dissipate Heat

[@ryantang8146]

I think most people would be more happy if Canon at least put a 30-33mp sensor in it.

[@whiterock1865]

Wait a second, you said the 120fps is already slowed down, I thought it was like the R5 MkII that allowed you to not use the high frame rate "mode" therefore recording like it would 24, 30 or 60 fps with full audio. So that's an important distinction to be clear on because I was under the impression it did the same thing the R5 mk II does for 120fps either in "high frame mode" or standard video mode including audio.

[@gjaeigjiajeg]

Question from an amateur - for people who shoot raw, which I'm assuming will be almost all those who will be using a camera of this class, in what situation would you bother with white Balance?

[@learningcameras]

I typically shoot auto white balance since I'm shooting RAW but occasionally with flash especially, the camera will set the white balance based on the ambient lights in the room but when your flash goes off, those are always about 5500kelvin so you will want to manually set white balance

[@cdiderich]

To me the question will be whether the R1 autofocus is worth about $3'500,- for what I am shooting [sports: tennis, athletics, alpine ski, volleyball, handball, ...] (the difference between buying an R1 and selling an R3). Based on what I have seen, listened to, and read, at the moment the answer to this question for me is NO! I probably will spend that money (which I already had budgeted) on new lenses (especially the 100-300/2.8 and/or the to be announced 200-500/4).

[@learningcameras]

I tend to agree with prices the way they are

[@cdiderich]

By the way, the camera has many other nice features, when comparing to the R3, like dual CF express card, larger EVF, lock on cards door, backlit buttons, ... but I would not be willing to pay extra for any of those features. And then there are even (apparently) things that are missing, like the 195 fps high speed burst shooting, or the LCD resolution going down on the R3.

[@Makta972]

@@cdiderich let's be real the R3 is still a crazy camera. You don't need a new one. Lenses are Always a good choice tho

[@cdiderich]

@@Makta972 The question will be: As a sports photographer, will I be at a competitive disadvantage to those using an R1? The answer will most likely be no, but you never know!

[@JohnSwen-p6b]

​@@cdiderich I use a Canon R3 and from a spec perspective I see a few significant advantages of the R1 AF: 1) The ability to not loss focus on your subject when another subject gets in front of it. 2) The ability to predict where to focus next when shooting volleyball, soccer, and basketball 3) X-type AF sensors across the entire frame. I cannot comment on any real-world experience because I obviously do not have the R1 in hand. Whether these features are worth $3500 only you can answer for yourself. If you are on the fence, my recommendation would be to rent a R1 when it becomes available and then make your decision.

[@JoshWilliams123]

Is 4k 120 pixel binned?

[@learningcameras]

@@JoshWilliams123 yes it is

[@peitsch]

The way you shake and sweat and forget about Z8 is just sweet

[@learningcameras]

Go watch my R5II video... You are incredibly wrong! The Z8 is in that video and the benchmark I grade the R5II on! But it's a different camera in a lot of ways to the R1 so I didn't include it in this video. I talk about that camera endlessly but occasionally I do make a video that doesn't mention it lol

[@Darkhorsemultimedia1]

FYI 120 is not baked in 30p anymore as mentioned, its normal 120 like other brands.

[@besisikaphotography3061]

Interesting, ISO 12800 clean. Did you test the 3200? Maybe they made 3 base ISOs like the C400: 800, 3200 and 12800, but don't admit it officially. That would be nice.

[@learningcameras]

I was hoping for that! Unfortunately i was not seeing any kind of lower noise floor anywhere between 800 and 12,800 in my tests

[@22welcome]

I love it , just I don’t love the screen, I wish if it the same screen in Nikon Z9 , the way it’s open

[@krane15]

Still no security lock. A gross oversight in the entire SLR camera market. With only 24mp it may be good enough, but in today high demand digital environment, good enough is no longer good enough.

[@SeanNeale]

In a 'digital environment', 24mp is plenty.

[@JohnSwen-p6b]

What exactly do you mean by "high demand digital environment"? If you mean quick to process so it can be posted on the internet 24 MP is more than enough resolution even if you need to crop. If you want to make large prints, then more resolution is beneficial, but prints are not a digital environment.

[@igorrutsch]

hi Dan the R1 was on my radar up until the point it was clear that the sensor would only be a 24mpx one. Sony pushed the expectations just a little higher FPSwise, and every rumor site tried to sell the idea that the canon would at least match that.... what a disappointment 40 fps is what I get with my r6 mk2 ( not stacked I know but hey I bought it almost two years ago !!! ) i was ready to buy a fairly expensive canon pro body ... to sum it up. i preorderd the r5 mk2 would have loved a 4 axis rear screen would have loved a better EVF would have loved a R1 form factor and I would have paid for that. now, I'm already expecting a few perf boost via firmware, like fps boost in crop mode for instance. even if there is no camera in the Sony lineup that would do everything i need ( under 6k), I feel like canon lost the marketing game big time. I'm looking forward to hearing your opinion on the r5 mk2 once you get to play with it a little longer.

[@Davitor1]

Eye tracking focusing system is a wonderful feature, Sony better figure that out soon or they’ll be losing again to Canon.

[@learningcameras]

Well said. I mean this is still an awesome camera, but calling this the R1 and pricing it above $6k feels like a marketing mistake more than an engineering one

[@krane15]

I get it, they don't want to get into the resolution wars. But 24mp is not yet the magic number. At 40mp I would have bought it. Heck, I would have bought it even at 36mp. But not 24mp. That's just not a camera for the future.

[@RayValdezPhotography]

@@krane15 so what would you need all those megapixels for? You don't frame things right or something? It's an action camera as all flagships were until the A1. IF you want MP just get the R5 II. What's the problem? Sony does a few things now everyone doesn't remember how things worked.

[@learningcameras]

@@krane15 Yeah, the A1 and the Z9 all went high resolution while maintaining high speeds and since Canon already had the R3, going high resolution seemed logical, especially since the A9III just blew everyone away with speed

[@LeonWei]

Canon 1 series are traditionally built for sheer speed and image quality. Never high resolution. Only maybe 1% of the photographers in the world can bring the best out of this camera

[@learningcameras]

I agree...but then Canon threw out the R3 so seems weird to have 2 almost identical cameras with the same resolution and same stacked cmos sensor. I was hoping they would then move the R1 up with resolution to compete with the Sony A1 and Nikon Z9 which can both shoot high resolution & at high speeds

[@LeonWei]

@@learningcameras they may have many similarities in core specifications, there are many subtle differences. 1 series is designed for the niches which don’t make sense to our general photography. The fairer comparison to Sony A1 and Nikon Z9 is R5ii for speed and image quality wise

[@Chris_Wolfgram]

Geez, I would absolutely sell my truck for a camera like this (wide body, pro level) but an APS-C ! I would like the name R7 Pro 1 :) It sucks that just because a person is into birds, Canon "assumes" they are not serious enough to spend big $$$ on their camera(s). I'd pay $3K (maybe more ?) for a true Pro level APS-C body.... but I'll probably never have that option :( Canon makes $13-20K lenses with birds and wildlife in mind. Why not pro level APS-C bodies ??? I might be the only one here who thinks this way. But believe me, I've been to many places in the country, and have met a LOT of folks that would pay big $$$ for a pro level birding camera.

[@learningcameras]

I know that's one reason people like high resolution cameras is the APSC crop mode is actually usable. Yeah, I miss the days of the Canon 7D which was a super high quality APSC camera

[@Chris_Wolfgram]

@@learningcameras loved my 7D 🙂

[@garymeredith2441]

Dan you attached the perfect name to this camera because that's all it is , it is just an upgraded R3 that's all it is , And I've had my R3 for over 1 year and it has been the worst camera I've ever had in my life , I'm getting rid of it and I'm going to go get myself a good used 1DX III because at least that will be a reliable camera .

[@reginaldwalton]

So underwhelmed by the Canon R1, although I wasn't going to purchase that one (I pre-ordered the R5 II), I am still like "MEH". Like you and many others, I don't know how Canon think they can get away with calling that camera their Flagship camera, but oh well. They do seem to always have lots of "tech" in their cameras, but always playing catch up to Sony in other aspects. And throw in the fact that Canon has brought the hammer down on 3rd party RF lenses (yes I know, they have allowed a few, but not the GOOD STUFF we want), I don't see how Canon will stay atop the totem pole. And of course, people buying this camera aren't necessarily looking for 3rd party glass, but for their other models, we are. Just my 2 cents.

[@learningcameras]

Yeah, you have to remember that Sony is a sensor company and Canon is a camera company so they come at cameras from different perspectives. Sony starts with a sensor, identify a potential audience for that sensor, and work outward when they design a new camera. Canon starts with the hardware and designs inward. But given Sony's lead in the sensor dept. and Canon's lack of a high resolution sensor paired with a flagship body, this feels like a miss even though it's a great camera and would be a perfect R3 mk2

[@reginaldwalton]

@@learningcameras I agree, but Canon has been at the far longer than Sony and they "could" if they wanted to,, but I think they are pretty much resting on their laurels, which sucks for us Canon shooters. I did like it when I shot both Canon and Sony, but couldn't afford to keep buying lenses for both. 😀😀

[@DelDelap]

Think I'll stick to my A1 now, was hoping for big things with the R1. Instead its small steps, now cant wait to see what Sony will do with the A1 mk2

[@Davitor1]

Eye tracking focusing system is a must for Sony. Lots of Pro’s want it.

[@learningcameras]

Right now I think it will pretty easy for Sony to dominate with an A1 mk2...at least from a specs perspective. But a lot of sports/wildlife photographers with large lenses or if you shoot extreme conditions prefer ergonomics on the R1 compared to the A1, even with a grip

[@learningcameras]

At first it felt gimmicky but with the R1, it's definitely usable. But I don't think Sony can fit a viewfinder anywhere close to this big on the A1 haha

[@JohnSwen-p6b]

@@learningcameras ..and reliability as well.

[@yigitogutlu3100]

@@learningcamerashow do you come to that conclusion? Is it because they based all of their full frame mirrorless cameras off the a7?

[@gregdyer7227]

The R3 was their Flagship Camera and this is the mark II.

[@JohnSwen-p6b]

The R3 was never Canon's flagship and when it was released Canon explicitly state so... Would you have been more content if they named the R1 the R1 Mk2?

[@LuigiL75]

I mean…you’re NOT wrong!!! 😅

[@kwphua9172]

This camera is for the spot professional. Usually they shoot in JPEG.

[@JEmmertz]

Since watching Gordon Laing yesterday I have checked some other sources also, but I lean more and more towards those who say this is more of a R3 Mark II than a full on flagship model. There are lots that I do like with the R1 (think Wifi, full size HDMI port, some button placement, AF looks promising etc), and then there are some things I do not like: top screen, and the bloody dial next to it, the narrow and severely sloping left shoulder and a few others I can't really remember from the top of my head. The price is steep, and it will not make me jump from the 1Dx Mark III. I think I will be good for a couple more years...

[@kevindiossi]

If you’re still shooting a DSLR, you truly don’t know what you’re missing out on…

[@JEmmertz]

@@kevindiossi You mean like number of shots on 1 battery, and a true optical viewfinder? I'm perfectly aware of what I have and why, and I'm not missing out on anything as I see it.

[@harryvuemedia]

@@JEmmertz oh you're missing out a lot. Im surprised you even wasted money buying that 1dx mark iii. Canon didnt even hyped up the 1dx-iii and likely just released it so they can recover some loss from it. Mirrorless in general has so much to offer that i would never go back to DSLR ever agian even if you gave me 5 1DX-iii for free.

[@JEmmertz]

@@harryvuemedia My 1Dx Mark III existed a long time before the R3 or R-anything did and worked more than well. It still does. Next time you want to bother me please use a bot-account that knows how to spel in inglese! I've blocked more idiots than this, and I'm not stopping yet.

[@JohnSwen-p6b]

@@harryvuemedia Agree with you on this one. After using mirrorless I would never go back to a DSLR. The advantages are numerous, but for me the top three are: 1) AF points over the entire viewfinder not just confined to the center of the viewfinder. Also with the R1 you now have cross-type AF point over the entire sensor. 2) Built in exposure and depth of field preview (What you see is what you get). 3) Silent operation operation with electronic shutter at high-speed

[@harryvuemedia]

The hype and buildup for the R1 was a huge letdown. Websites and Canon users said that it was going to compete easily against the Z9 and A1, heck even surpassing it. But to see the R1 with similar specs as the R3, its should have been name the R3 mark ii. Had the R3 never came out, R1 would definitely be call Canon's flagship camera. 24 mega pixel sensor and 40 fps burst shooting is not worthy of a flagship camera. Nikon and Sony are the top in the flagship department now. Canon will need another 4 years to catch up and by then, future Z9-ii and A1-ii will exceed expectations again. Otherwise, the R5 have been praised a lot so far.

[@learningcameras]

Canon has a new CEO and just fired super high up employees that have been there for 30+ years and understood the photography side of cameras. Can't help but think there were some top down company decisions that changed things.

[@harryvuemedia]

@@learningcameras that likely could have been a huge factor too. Top executives want the cheapest and sell it for the highest because they know their users will still buy it. At the same time, canon users are still defending the R1 specs when they really need to wake up. When its your best camera, you make sure to make it your best camera.

[@LangDzu]

The R3 was originally R1 until Sony introduced the A1 😂 then it was called the “R3” so this flagship R1 is the R3 mark II (at least in the majority’s mind), no surprise. But to be honest, it’s a great camera for Pro Sports/Photo Journalism photographers. Nature and wildlife photographers got the R5 mark II so it’s a win win for Canon to have free advertising at the Olympics 😀

[@3k3k3]

The R1 was originally meant to be a camera where you bought the vertical grip? :)

[@RayValdezPhotography]

literally makes no type of sense as this still has 24MP years after the A1 and is still called R1. Anyone using logic when they say this?

[@adhi_atma]

​@@RayValdezPhotography yep. If canon have similar brain as the haters, canon would name it r3 mark ii . But they didnt. Simply put previous flagship (1DX III) have cross type AF for better AF in vertical or diagonal Framing. which any previous canon mirrorless before R1 doesnt have. Also R3 readout speed still slower than mech shutter in 1dx iii. Cross type AF, faster readout than mech shutter makes R1 the definitive flagship succesor to 1DX III

[@baekmedier]

If it works as a B-cam to the C400 its perfect 😅✌️ 4K is fine.

[@johncharles9005]

It’s interesting to see the reaction to this camera (that I will never afford). It does seem to be one of the most hyped cameras over the last few years as the “king of everything” and really seems to have fallen short of expectations. Like you said, every camera has some downsides but I’m glad I switched to Sony from Canon a few years ago. Great review as always!

[@natureredux1957]

Sony is no better then Canon. You switched to Sony but yet here you are talking about Canon. So you really have not moved on.

[@johncharles9005]

@@natureredux1957 😂 I never said Sony was better? I said I agreed every camera has downsides and that I switched to Sony. Personally I felt that Sony was innovating more at the time and allowed third party glass. I wanted Canon to blow us away with the R5II and R1 (as there are lots of things I love about Canon). It’s just a shame the R1 is not quite what people were expecting.

[@natureredux1957]

@@johncharles9005 Yet you talked about Rumors as if they were FACTS. Nor did I say you stated Sony was better, I stated Sony was no better. It's a shame the Rumors sites don't really KNOW FACTS. Which is why they are rumor sites.

[@learningcameras]

Canon has absolutely hyped this...they've been saying it's in the works for years which has built up so much anticipation. Again, it's not like this is a bad camera, it's not...it's absolutely amazing, but it feels like an R3 mk2 and should be priced accordingly. The only thing that's a letdown is the name

[@SeanNeale]

To be fair, at this point, if people can't capture decent images with the R1, the camera is most certainly not the problem.

[@deanvm9158]

Like people want to be blown everytime Canon releases something. Can you not hold a photoshoot with this camera because it is not good enough? Well, I can, even with a 5d mark ii.

[@learningcameras]

@@deanvm9158 that's not the point. You are really far off with that. This is their flagship camera...it should show off a bit. I said plenty of times, this is an awesome camera and would be an excellent R3 mk 2. In the first 5 seconds of the video I said there is nothing wrong with the camera, it's the name!!! This is potentially a marketing mistake but the camera itself is great. Not sure how that didn't land

[@jeffreyfleming4016]

Great review Dan. Many thanks.

[@learningcameras]

Appreciate that!!

[@NikCan66]

Seems R3 Mark ii maybe more any as this "flagship " doesn't seem to be a quantum leap in comparison to rival companies currently offer. Might see long time Canon users switch to either Nikon or Sony cameras amd use adapters to use their existing lenses

[@number1chiefROKKA]

6K for 24 megapixel’s?!?! The R5 comes out and you have to wear oven mits to use until a million firmware updates? I am so glad I switched from Canon. They intentionally produce slop and are surprised that people don’t run to the troft. There is nothing to be excited about this camera.

[@kadragepictures]

I think the R1 is just too big and heavy for what it offers, if it would be as compact like a R5 I would call it a great camera

[@AlanCWL1989]

After understand this video and I concluded one thing , "R3-Mark II-ed" with beautified name , like a Ford Coupe add-on one supercharger turbo on it , no doubt the DiGiC X with Dual Pixel AF II is superior among all , the algorithm is superb , but Canon is like squeeze the toothpaste until the last drop. Just my 2 cent as a former photojournalist , I guess back to R3 would be a nice choice for me right now without wasting too much money. The key point is a user able to acquire precise focus on subject and get a snapshot like a sniper , or video the scene with conveniences.

[@zegzbrutal]

For your case, R5ii serves better job.

[@LuigiL75]

Canon isn’t about “Photography” anymore…they only care about Videographers now! I’ll just keep chugging along with my 1DXMKiii thanks! 😅

[@SuomiFinland78]

Cannot understand such a videos. It's not difficult to understand that Canon 1 series has always been with 20-24 mp. And it's not difficult to understand that sport photographers want this kind of camera. Moreover a camera should be first tested before considering It bad or disappointing.

[@learningcameras]

I did actually test the camera...limited but I was hands on with it. Canon does not live in a vacuum...consumers have choices for cameras and a lot of potential R1 buyers will be switching from 1D's so they will need to upgrade lenses as well making it easy to switch. It's not that the R1 is bad...it's that compared to the competition, it falls a little flat. But the reason why 1 series cameras were low MP is that was the only way 5+years ago to get high speeds & high ISO performance. That is no longer the case and you can have high speeds combined with high resolutions keeping in mind that all cameras have the ability to shoot at lower resolutions as well. And with backside illuminated sensors, 6400 ISO on a 50MP Sony A1 looks better than 20MP on a Canon 1DXIII. Plus programs like Lightroom have AI based noise reduction that is so powerful, shooting at high ISO is no longer an issue either. The game has changed a bit. Add to that, Canon already has a 24mp pro end camera so compared to that, the R1 felt like an incremental update of that camera instead of a flagship option

[@keima1110]

1DX is 20fps without using mirror

[@learningcameras]

@@keima1110 yeah but there is massive rolling shutter and banding in that

[@vinnym6734]

I just can’t imagine the amount of sifting one has to do shooting 120 fps constantly. I don’t shoot fast action, so it doesn’t apply to me. It’s just crazy to entertain though.

[@learningcameras]

@@vinnym6734 haha... It was crazy after using the A9III just how many images I was taking. But obviously you can always shoot slower! Just because my car does 150mph doesn't mean I have ever driven that fast in it lol

[@vinnym6734]

I agree! But for those using it to that capacity for their line of work, that’s just an insane amount of frames! Hahaha!

[@fungkouher2511]

The more RANTS on the camera, the more loved and successful it becomes. That is based on the 5D vi and the 6D ii.

[@learningcameras]

I definitely didn't rant at the camera...I ranted on the name lol...first 5 seconds of the video. Also I maintain that the 6DII wasn't a great camera, Canon just dropped the price enough to get sales but it didn't make the camera good. The 5DIV I still own and is a great camera

[@joachimreiner7924]

Using Canon 6D Mark II for some years I would say that for such a low price it is a fantastic camera, still in 2024, if you know its little weaknesses.😊

[@grassmanBoca]

All the pros are so picky, these are good cameras, if you think it’s bad don’t buy it!

[@learningcameras]

Obviously EVERY camera these days are going to be good. But this is a review...it's literally designed to find the things that Canon didn't do as well as they could have, especially compared to the competition. If you can ONLY shoot Canon and ONLY look at Canon cameras, of course this is going to be amazing...it's literally the best you can buy. But that's not how any product works these days. A Mercedes E class is a great car (and better than anything I own lol) but any good review should nitpick everything that could have been better let me know if BMW's 5 series is actually better

[@Leo-jd2ny]

The R1 is proof that the R3 should already be an R1

[@JohnSwen-p6b]

Not really.

[@jigjitsu5599]

Best review so far.

[@learningcameras]

Thanks!!

[@davidmcc6666]

Can Canon please make a bigger camera? The R1 just isn't large enough. Thank you.

[@Anarki2U]

🤣

[@19Pixel]

So you spent a couple hours at a preview event with immature firmware? I take it you missed the entire "cross type AF" discussion that is exclusive to the R1?

[@learningcameras]

Yes to the first part, no to the 2nd. The camera still isn't out yet but when it is I will absolutely put it through a much more thorough test. When this went live, no one had spent more than a couple hours at a preview event with immature firmware....this was 5 months before cameras were supposed to hit shelves. So I tried to cover as much as I could with everything I could test so everyone could be more informed than they would be reading Canon's press release. But I don't understand the point of your statement...would you rather not watch any preview of a newly announced camera until we can spend weeks testing EVERYTHING to give a 45 minute comprehensive video on firmware V1.1?? 4 months ago when this video was released, NO ONE could have offered that so we either do the best we can with early firmware and limited test time or let you read a PR release and do 0 testing

[@19Pixel]

@@learningcameras Still isn't out???

[@flyingping]

I agree with every critical comment. However, the other shoe has not dropped.... Subscription package for $19.99/ month will open up the good stuff 👈🙄

[@Anarki2U]

No, flopship 🤣

[@tripleseven6672]

R3 MK ii price as well. Not a flagship.

[@lokeshmahendrakar4948]

It’s like the D6 moment of Nikon .. very underwhelming release … the autofocus of all three major brands are great … this camera is less than what Nikon and Sony released few years ago.. nobody will be queuing to buy R1 …

[@LuigiL75]

The whole D6 fiasco was the SOLE reason why I left Nikon FOR Canon back in 2020!!! I had been shooting with Nikon for 24 years at that point…holding on with my D4S for dear life because the D5 wasn’t enough…😅…now, I freaking LOVE my 1DXMK3…so much so, I simply don’t see a reason why I should upgrade to R4 OR this R3 Mark 2 😂

[@lokeshmahendrakar4948]

Possibly canon knows how underwhelming this release is .. I am pretty sure they will make few more copies than pre orders and call it a day … when tally light becomes a feature to brag in the camera which Nikon put in Z30 you can understand the sad situation at canon camp …

[@emptyandseephotos7858]

16bit mech shutter qualiry be sure I my choice extra 2000dollar

[@strippedlist]

2000 DOLLARS DIFFERENCE....THATS WHY R3

[@learningcameras]

Well that's just a sale, the R3 is technically $6000, that's why I said I'd get an R3 on this sale

[@Leo-jd2ny]

Except for the Full HDMI and the improved auto focus, the R1 and also the R5II have for me a lot of unnecessary and useless futures

[@gerardferry3958]

sony wins

[@nyokieruiz]

i'll stick with my R3.

[@costafilh0]

R3 Mark II change my mind

[@TheVitalishe]

Why do so many people talk about higher resolution? If this is a camera for sports and low light you want lower resolution and better low light performance. I personally world love to get a lower resolution Z9 (with 20 to 24MP).

[@learningcameras]

So you can shoot 20mp in the Z9...there is a medium RAW option. Plus you have an APSC mode that's actually usable with a high resolution camera so if you're 400mm F2.8 isn't long enough, that's a solution. In the old days we had pro end APSC cameras like the Canon 7DII so these days, high resolution has major advantages without the disadvantages of 5+ years ago

[@colourberry]

Miraculous how so many camera youtubers thought to write FLAGSHIP?? at the same time. I mean anyone would think they are all a bunch of lazy half assed photographers that cant be bothered coming up with their own ideas and content right?? Of course its Canon's flagship. What idiots would question that in any way. No I dont shoot Canon. There is only one camera youtuber that thinks for himself. He's English by the way. Maybe its just the Americans that are afraid to go first or say anything opposing all the other muppets.

[@learningcameras]

Trust me, none of us compared anything. We all go live at the same time and no one sees anyone's video until the day of. If you see 5 people say the same thing, take it as a sign that it was the thing that stood out to us the most in our use of a camera. All of our videos went life at the EXACT SAME TIME!!! Your comment is completely wrong. What happened is we all saw the same Canon PR that used the word flagship too many times, then started using the camera and I guess all wondered why. Maybe the English person you mentioned didn't get a PR presentation that used the word flagship

[@Louphotos]

I was bummed out for Canon users. I thought for SURE canon was going to put 45mp or higher in their R1. Something like Sony’s A1. I think their new r5ii is going to be one hell of a camera and will be the popular choice

[@JohnSwen-p6b]

Canon's 5-series cameras always out sell their 1-series cameras. The 1-series is always a specialized camera.

[@NewsMoto]

It's Yamaha R1 😭

[@harryvuemedia]

no, not even close. Canon R1 is like a Yamaha R6 special edition. An R1 has a 1,000cc motor to differentiate itself from a 600cc.

[@naga2015kk]

SONY A9mkiii screwed this camera. Canon is blocked.

[@Grr8jon]

24mp 120fps RAW. With global shutter. Yup. It cooked it. Sony is ahead tech wise.

[@jondemetrius]

Its an awesome camera. Wish the 4axis was added

[@SamW604]

I consider the R1 as an R3 Mark II, instead of a new flagship camera. In fact, I don't see any need for Canon to ever issue an official R3 Mark II. A Canon flagship camera should have flagship features such as dual-pixel auto-focus, global shutter, and higher megapixels. It seems as though Canon is targeting both the R1 and R3 towards the same small market segment (i.e., photo journalists and sports photographers), which makes no business sense unless Canon plans to discontinue the R3.

[@parmanduke]

I’ve been done with Canon since their RF lens embargo. Good riddance. Sony and Nikon are far better alternatives.

[@learningcameras]

Still hoping they will change that once their lens lineup is built out

[@onlysublime]

Good for you. Luckily everyone else has their own opinion

[@dushyantbhatt9345]

all camera but r5 II in standard picture profile is 8bit,. right .. hahaha fook canon ..... but in this in video codec it is suppose to have 10bit but but NO.... fooking canon cripple hammer

[@מיכאלקונטרוביץ]

Awesome camera for specific purposes - sports and action professional photography and also very good video camera and the BEST autofocus to date, but a HUGE disappoinment...WHY 24 MP? Why not outperform the Sony A1, the Nikon Z9, etc...and not only the MP, and the price...6300$...HUGE NO NO!!! If Canon could manage to put the R5II sensor in this camera

[@anthonyk27]

I am gonna be honest, if I had any camera I could have it’s the R1. However, the way Canon marketed this and released it, it feels underwhelming. It’s a great, incredible camera, but they just didn’t release right.

[@jeffjrider]

It’s a Gigantic disaster disappointment for too much money.

[@Man_Cave]

20 megapixels on a flagship is a joke.

[@obsidian00]

...a really bAD joke at that!!!

[@TheBigBlueMarble]

When was the rule written that says every camera manufacturer needs to have a flagship product. The use of the word flagship is nothing more than marketing. Try ignoring the marketing and actually evaluating the product.

[@learningcameras]

When a manufacture choses to use that term and calls a product their flagship, it absolutely creates a written rule that they actually have a flagship product! Also, they used the R1 name which they have been saving for the flagship product. Plus there are other "flagship" products from other manufactures so when we compare the best Canon can deliver to the best from Sony & Nikon, the R1 feels like it's missing something. Nikon's Z9 was announced in 2021 and is 45MP although a bit slower and Sony's A1 was announced even earlier in 2021 with a 50MP sensor. It took Canon over 3 years to come up with an answer and while it is slightly faster, it's also half the resolution. Plus Sony's A9III has 3x faster speeds at the same resolution as the R1. Again, I said in the first 5 seconds of the video it doesn't mean the R1 is a bad camera, but when you compare it to other flagship cameras it's missing something that they have

[@larrykenner8095]

Call it whatever you want for crying out loud.

[@mbismbismb]

i would choose this over a9iii lousy picture quality anyday thank you

[@learningcameras]

It will be interesting when we compare them. The global shutter does impact quality but not that much...above 400 ISO, these cameras will probably be very similar in quality