A Simple Approach to Correct Saddle Height (for road cyclists)

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Getting your saddle height right can be more challenging than you think! I recall cycling for almost 5 years with a saddle height that was way too high, despite thinking I had it dialed in. So in this video Neill Standbury, the expert bike fitter, provides us with a simple approach to getting saddle heigh right. Providing context upfront about seat heights that are too high and too low, he concludes with an approach any cyclist with an indoor trainer can take. You could probably take this approach on the road too!
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[@nhattran1074]

its 12 am and i'm adjusting my saddle height......

[@梁寳文]

Did it too! :P

[@KillteeLenny]

Hahahahhahaha 11 pm for me

[@edwardarango7287]

Same

[@JamesWalters1]

1:20 am

[@joesantos7196]

@nhat Tran you are dedicated

[@dc1316]

Every time i see this guy on a video thumbnail i have to click. Easily the most knowledgeable person ive ever heard, with proof to back it up!

[@timjones4594]

Generous of you guys to share this. Practical, easy to implement, this is gold.

[@rolffuchs2737]

Thank you, you really saved my life. I was really desperate because of cramps in my calf and persistent pain in my lower back. I did workouts, stretching Quigong (which are all good things to do), but nothing really helped. Then i measured my saddle height after watching this and it was at least 2cm too high. I corrected it, rode my bike and it's like heaven, the pain has gone and i`ve even more control over my bike. Thank you!!!

[@jonpoon3896]

Best tip was to ride at threshold. Everything can seem comfortable when you’re just lightly spinning

[@adamkubiak1933]

Jon Poon from my experience it’s the other way round. When I’m just cruising with my wife, and not generating as much power, my hands and rear end are more likely to get sore. At higher speeds, I’m comfortable with my bike and and able to spend three hours before any symptoms of discomfort. As you generate more powers, you also lift your body a little, decreasing the “weight” that your apply to saddle and bars.

[@chadschoenauer7232]

Both correct in my opinion. Performance vs recreational vs loaded touring riding fits are different! Simulation of various effort levels, and inclines also help to get the issues worked out for each individual. Proof that one dogmatic method only works for certain dogs 🐶

[@rolandoinductivo8013]

this is what I do. I tend to bounce during high efforts and adjust the saddle until it stops.

[@SoilworkZA01]

This is the most important road cycling video on KZbin. Thanks Cam and Neill!

[@ZackZavage]

I feel so lucky to have stumbled upon this video. Having just started with the sport a couple of weeks ago, this exactly the advice I needed. It made me realize that my saddle was way too high.

[@juanbautista5541]

It's just fantastic, I have had an injury for a long time and after a lot of readings and videos (and also physiotherapy), but specially putting attention to my sensations on the bike I started to understand the problem, and this video helps me to clarify all of that amount of information I've been collecting. Thanks a lot, great video, keep going on this way

[@dreyn7780]

Associating with the lower classes. That's what your problem is. I used to associate with riders who couldn't be bothered to put air in the tyres. That was a big mistake.

[@frankmaykut7266]

Neill is very knowledgeable and has an incredible ability to communicate information. Great show Cam!

[@Riprazor]

This is an amazing video. I thought my saddle was in the correct position, however, I quickly realized it was to high. I lowered it by just 2 mm and rode 60 kilometers. I immediately noticed several things. 1. My left pinky no longer goes numb when I am climbing. 2. I definitely noticed a smoother pedal cadence. 3. My right foot is less likely to pivot "in" when I ride which it has historically done in the previous seat position. I am going to take it down another 1-2 mm and see if my power meter will show a more even pedal stroke since it currently is indicating that I favor my right leg. Thanks for this Cam!

[@richardmiddleton7770]

Remember to push your saddle back when lowering your saddle. It's around 3:1 ratio so for every 3mm dropped you want 1mm more setback.

[@Clashing0N]

In one of the ‘Bikefit Tuesday’ videos by Francis Cade it is mentioned the other way around. For every 1mm of height change 3mm fore/aft change.

[@Seiskid]

Thanks so much guys. This series has been super super helpful. After running through the "drop 15mm go up 3 at a time" my long term seat position is now set 11mm lower and... just like he said I'm putting less weight on the bars.

[@Fufux0rs]

Everything was fine until i saw first bikefit video😂

[@knoxindy]

The best saddle height video I’ve ever seen. All of his tips are incredible for every part of the bike fit.

[@topaz_climber]

100% agreed!

[@justforfunm8994]

I couldn't agree anymore.

[@erickpodwill9074]

Yeah Neil (Neal?) is awesome. Love all his appearances, he doesn't mince words and is really effective at communicating

[@dreyn7780]

It's a pitty It's 50 years TOO late. Wise professional experts have always prooven to be unwise clowns. The experts gave us ROCK Hard plastic seats. The experts didn't tell us anything. The experts went off and left us to work it out for ourselves. Etc. You shut up about experts. The staff at bike shops are useless uneducated and disrespectful.

[@keithchang8566]

Picked up cycling a year ago and I'm back at this vid to inform my head about the changes I've made to my bike so far. He's absolutely spot on about the 'right range' where that 2-4mm difference can feel so much better or worse. Coupled with seat angle and fore/aft, the saddle alone is enough to drive me mad on the bike fit!

[@behappychef158]

I’m a Physio and a cyclist as well...absolutely brilliant and helpful. Thanks for sharing!!!

[@steveindorset]

What a great vid cam. According to what I’m hearing on this video my seat height is just right. I must have “good body awareness” as I instinctively know when the seat is too high/low. All three muscle groups are equally tired after a ride. Very encouraging! 👍👍👍

[@steveindorset]

@Craig Herriot Nirvana were a 90’s grunge band. Check out their “Never mind” album it’s their best by far. 😁😉👍

[@KevinStorr]

Steve of Staffordshire agreed Never Mind is fantastic

[@5FWS5]

Just watched this. You sir are a genius! I've been riding a vintage Cannondale Team Comp for YEARS. I was given the bike so it wasnt purchased/sized for me but the giftor is an avid cyclist and helped set it up for me as best we could. It was never perfectly comfortable but thought it was as good as it was going to get. Well after seeing this video and a couple others, I decided to experiment - Seat height, Seat fore or aft adjustment or Bar height? After watching a few of your videos, I tried what seems the most wrong- I lowered the seat about 4-5mm. Wow! I really couldnt believe the difference. My morning ride today I felt I had more power, better power transfer to the pedals and instead of aches and pains at the end , I was tired but no specific pain just as you described. My legs were evenly tired front to back top to bottom - NOT sore. And maybe just the power of suggestion but I felt better after this ride than I have in a long time. I wouldnt believe it if I didnt experience it. Now, I started realizing this well before the end of the ride and so was thinking "what else"? After a few more miles of experimenting I decided that my seat was too far forward so I tried sitting back on it and it felt more "right. When I got home and looked - sure enough the seat is almost all the way forward on the rails. Sunday is my next ride and Ill move the seat back a bit - maybe a cm or 2 and see how that feels. Thank you for making me re-evaluate this! This was a true revelation for me - Thank you!

[@phoenity1]

This is the same as Steve Hogg's explanation of saddle height watching for the acceleration of knee extension at bottom of pedal stroke. But this guy explains it so much clearer by detailing the mechanics of how saddle height and pedal stroke is affected by the quads and hamstrings, and lists symptoms of being too high which finally makes sense.

[@CamNicholls]

He’s done Steve’s training.

[@cpk313]

I have struggled with bike position for the last few years after a surgery. Prior to it, I was a little too high but could get away with it, after I couldn't. Your description helped a lot in what to focus on and the point between too high and not was more apperiente. For me it was being able to put power down evenly throughout the majority of the stroke and something that has not been touched on is my balance on the bike was improved. Riding hands off required little effort/concentration at all. Too high and that oneness with the bike starts to go away. Thanks Neil and Cam!!

[@binitbob]

Another brammer of a video Cam thank you. Thanks to you and Neil I fell more comfortable on my bike (even after having professional bike fitting), cadence is up, speeds are up. I am starting to enjoy my cycling again after feeling like my performance had stagnated. So a huge thanks from this 50 year old pom.👍😉

[@CamNicholls]

Cheers mate and thanks for the support 👍

[@lukewalker1051]

Brilliant words explaining saddle height. Can't be said better from Neil.

[@MrYetibaby]

Dropped the seat 2 mill , with 165 mill cranks. Boom problem solved everything from saddle sores and left knee pain . You two are so brilliant . I love the channel 🤘🏼

[@danrol354]

Wow! After a few years of riding at the set height, I just lowered it 2-3 mm mid-ride yesterday and definitely noticed a difference. Incredible!! Thanks!!

[@mannysamaniego702]

Having spent thousands of dollars on bike fitting and not getting much as far as positive results, your series with Neill’s have done wonders on my fit in a matter of weeks. And now I’m considering the shorter cranks!!! Thanks to you and Neill for sharing all the advise. Keep it coming!!

[@CamNicholls]

Good stuff Manny, thanks for sharing. Cam

[@johnunruh1086]

Excellent series. I finally have no pain from my saddle! Paid $350 for a bike fit, and still had pain in my as@$. Come to find out my saddle was to high and back. After watching your video I kept asking myself when I ride what I needed to feel better. When I hit a bump and came back down I had to push myself back. So I moved seat ahead 3mm. Was better but still had pain issues. So I lowered seat a little. Not really any difference. Lowered it little more, and wow, everything is perfect! Ended up about 5mm. Can't believe what a difference having everything correctly positioned! And I've been riding bikes since 1998, and had pain. I bet I tried 10 different saddles. Thank you for giving me the info I needed to fix it myself!!

[@matthewtomaszewski3269]

I’m a physical therapist who cycles and this is the best info I’ve ever seen on seat height.

[@mark-1234]

Yup, wish this guy was in my neighborhood. Most comprehensive explanations I've ever heard.

[@Cad1900]

Neil...you are a genius mate!!! Best bike fitting talk I’ve ever heard and this is my 50th year road biking. I’ve been struggling with knee issues and thanks to your information I’ve learned that my bike fit is wrong. I have it close now and looking for more tweaks to get it just right. Helping the knees greatly...Thank you 🙏

[@roadcyclingacademy]

Great to hear mate - happy to help! - Neill

[@ssbagley]

Arrrrgh!! Just when I thought I'd nailed my saddle height, I see this and start asking myself questions!!! Damn you!

[@danboads6233]

Hay, thanks so much for this video! I'm returning to cycling after a couple of yrs break and this series was by far the clearest in understanding what was happening. I've never felt so fresh, and so comfortable on my bike. You are a wizard.

[@stevestewart-sturges2159]

All of these videos Neil is so generous to share are pure gold... I tuned up my saddle height with this video back in August and the results have been remarkable, and yes, I dropped my saddle... so subtle but truly proved to be very effective over the past couple of months.. Thank you guys!

[@CamNicholls]

Awesome Steve, thanks for sharing mate

[@mareklesniak8768]

Great advices there. My own experience is, for me there's a window of about 30-35mm of saddle height where I can easily notice very distinct opposites - one where I feel too cramped with my legs and on the other extreme, where I'm lacking that fluid/smooth rotation and start rocking sideways too much. Another indication is how smoothly I can run at a higher cadence - 100rpm up to about 130-135rpm. On both ends of that range I can only barely cross 100rpm feeling like I have to put way too much effort into it. Around my optimum seat height, I can quite easily go up to about 110 and I can still go higher, up to about 130-135rpm with more effort required, but that still feels somewhat smooth (just spinning much faster).

[@jasonsolomon7122]

Omg - I had exactly this issue - the clipping and just couldn’t figure the right seat height- and same issue - I really couldn’t tell. This video explained all the issues I was having and why. Superb.

[@markjthomson]

Really good info. I recently set my saddle on my touring bike as recommended... all sweetness and light. I changed the saddle and checked the measurement, was pretty close. Dong a long ride (200km) last week, by 140km my left leg was developing "niggles", discomfort in muscles that weren't normal and of the "do something about this" nature. I figured I would try dropping the seat, as that was the only real change. Took it down maybe 3 to 5mm, all sorted. Finished the ride then did a century back with no issues. Very happy with that! Thanks for the good info.

[@tefltoulouse]

What he says from about 7 minutes in is exactly what I have been suffering from for years, mainly due to endless bike fits putting me too high. "80 or 90% of us will drop our right hip......." Bravo! My only problem is that if I ride with a nice low saddle, I actually get terrible quad and back pain for days afterwards, it is as if my whole pelvis area sort of seizes up. Maybe it is all just contracting after too high saddle for so long...? Certainly the outside of my left knee and saddle sore pains go though.

[@davidhopp]

Your videos towards bikefitting helped a lot in adjusting my bike! Turned out I was way to high with my saddle and had a lot of the symptoms Neill mentiones in some of the videos. Thank you for sharing these insights and all the best from the Black Forest in southern Germany!

[@hbeevers]

The description of a chopping motion at the bottom of the pedal stroke is spot on!

[@peteranderson6935]

I love this stuff, really explaining the fundamentals of the processes and mechanisms, no magic formulae.

[@TheHerrMan]

these are the best tips, I used the quad burn/hammy burn feedback to adjust my height. Now my whole leg feels it and not just a small part. thx!

[@achakhakan4189]

Good discussion, well worth the time to watch the entire video. Most riders and bike fitters seem to think that only a slight bend in the knee is all that is needed at the bottom of the stroke; very wrong.

[@jasonmcgrody9472]

This is hands down the best explanation of WHY I want a proper seat height I've ever seen.

[@jamessingleton4856]

Simply the best video on the topic out there! This guy is a genius.

[@cmdllb]

I adjusted my seat post about 3/4mm thinking it was too low. Within 24 hours I could feel it in my right (dominant) knee. Now I know why! Dropped it back down and hoping it will correct that. Thanks very much for this (whether it works or not, very interesting vid) 👍🏻

[@tang0oscarmike]

Guess what we all will be doing in the next 24hrs 😂

[@imjustinjong3939]

Lowering the height by 2cm

[@dapolaniyan6845]

Just lowered mine 😅😅

[@dreyn7780]

No. I've done it all already. I'm way beyond this guys knowledge. Mount the rider at the front wheel and you won't have all those crashes in the tour de France.

[@dreyn7780]

So now you've lowered your center of gravity. Which changes your lean angle when cornering. Which changes your braking performance. Which causes the tyres to run cooler Which reduces road grip. Etc.

[@dreyn7780]

So you're more out of the wind with cooler tyres Which cause you to miss your braking point and that causes you to run off the road and into a tree. If you gain something you also suffer a penalty. You've improved pedalling but ruined cornering ability. You're Always trading away something to win something. Bike designers know this stuff. You Pay a price for comfort and that means your cornering ability becomes terrible.

[@davidhopp]

What a great advice towards seat hight without all the theoretical calculations that never would fit for me!

[@Nomgoose]

This and the other videos you've done recently have helped me out a ton with my fit on my new bike. I've been fiddling with saddle height, fore and aft for about a month, and I think I've just about got it dialed in right. This video confirms I am nearly there.

[@EdgePereira]

I just overheard at the ALDI queue today: “is it too late for get me a refund from Retul?” 😂😂

[@evangatehouse5650]

Thank you, thank you, thank you! Sore quads every day after short rides. Adjusted as per your advice and wow - my hamstrings are working too and my quads are not sore tonight.

[@1Hanginon]

For the initial "height starting point", I've always used what Arnie Baker recommended - when you climb out of the saddle, your legs automatically go to the best knee angle. So, as you sit back down, adjust your seat so you keep that same extension. Excellent vid!

[@spaceghost8995]

How am I going to do that without falling over?

[@MikeKoPhotography]

Been Checking out your channel for a while and like the content but this is the video that made me click to "subscribe" button.

[@blinzi69]

the way i do it is a "single leg test" - i jump on the trainer switching to a pretty easy gear and clip in only 1 leg, i try to maintain like 100 watts with a comfortable cadence between 80 and 90. i do this for around 1 to 2 minutes. if i can pedal without getting the "clunk" sound making my stroke uneven i know my seat is too high. if im not getting that soudn it might still be too low so im going higher until the point when i get that clunk sound. from tehre i go 1-2mm down and this is the best position most of the time for me. funny thing is - most of the time, the heel measure method is pretty spot on already. cheers

[@CamNicholls]

Thanks for sharing on the thread

[@danielrantitsch]

I wish I had a bikefitter like this in Austria!

[@dakalla]

please post here, if you find one! But i feel that in bike shops and fitters here in Austria there are not a lot of people to trust. :(

[@klifton]

This is one of the most important videos I’ve watched on KZbin and the best explanation of this I’ve ever heard. Thanks!

[@CamNicholls]

👍

[@sonderfall1979]

Very good video once again!!! I had a bike fit in Switzerland from a very experienced fitter (he fits ultra endurance and TdF riders) and he also pointed out similar things. In my view it is A LOT about EXPERIENCE because as a normal person you don’t see those things. Mathematical models can’t see the person which is very important. They might help but the experience of the person behind is much more important!

[@Zurich80001]

Can you share the name of the Swiss bike fitter? I'm also living in Switzerland and searching for one...

[@sonderfall1979]

Monster Man Er heißt Harald Beck (Harry) von Orthoplus in Zürich. Er geht sehr gut auf das Individuum ein (Flexibilität, Schmerzen) und macht nicht einfach einen Standard-Fit.

[@ayogimenez94]

Thanks for this Cam! Just wanted to add, I used YOUR method to determine if my seat is right etc not really about bike fit but close enough and it has been my benchmark. I remember one of your earlier videos saying that you should be able to pedal comfortably with balance with your hands off the handlebars, this determines if the weight is distributed to the rear wheel for power(something like that) Not word for word but that's what I picked up from you. This video echoes that point, balance and power and efficiency dictates if you got the seat height right and fit in general right. Thanks for the great content!

[@marekjustus]

I love learning stuff when the topic is fully explained with examples and common sense... thank you!! 🙃

[@dejumoronwald]

My answer to this is just do 50km ride. From there, bring tools and adjust the seat height, fore and after, the angle ALONG THE WAY until you feel most comfortable position, because doing long ride, you would start to feel it in your body where it needs to adjust and you would know how much would you have to adjust according to your aches.

[@Rawsan]

This is what I have been waiting for. Cam, you are the man. Thanks, mate.

[@PedroPrego]

I still wish there was that type of bikefit around where I live. Around here is more like "seat there, measures angles, shift this and that to match the desired angles and you're ready, next please". It's not really personal, specific to the rider. That's why there are people naturally investing in selling markers, a phone app and there you go. Way cheaper and almost as effective as the average bikefitter.

[@stanroberts229]

Pedro Prego I found a PT that does bike fits. It was really good to have someone who looked at the body. I am amazed so far. It was cool he did not sell stuff too.

[@warcraftmafia]

Man good info, im just now getting serious about biking but for awhile i had terrible knee pain always due to seat to low. I made it what i know now is too high. It fixed my knee pain but i find myself burning out faster. Now i shall i think lower it little by little

[@emineaygun561]

Thankyou so much for the tips. I am going to set my saddle again. Hopefully I won't get sore legs anymore after every 20 km ride.

[@garytilley3217]

Very informative. Thanks Cam & Neill

[@thierryniaison8711]

Great tips with very practical/applicable key takeaways, thanks for this content!

[@fhowland]

Best saddle height video on KZbin

[@glene77is]

... Excellent ! Over Extension also leads to stress on ACL connection. Easy to follow this video !

[@fenf777]

It's been a day watching all Neil bike fitting tips. Now im opening bike fitting business

[@2wheelsrbest327]

Cannot imagine when it comes to bike fit there is anyone better than Neil Cam. Shame its too far from UK to get him to do a fit.

[@Erik-rc7iy]

That bike fitter is awesome! Could you bring him over to Texas Cam?!?

[@mikewynn8901]

Really enjoy and appreciate your efforts mate! Two thoughts: If a rider that is otherwise fairly symmetric in their efforts suddenly goes asymmetric when the seat is too high, then a two pedal power meter might show this... If the influence of the hamstring is suddenly lost as the seat is raised then torque at the pedal or pedal speed or acceleration might be a really good way of illustrating this (even if its difficult to see on the video). Also I am amazed that software reliant on recommended leg angles can get a seat height wrong but 1-2cm - that seems huge!

[@michaelragusajr9969]

Been really enjoying these videos with Neil

[@ΛάζαροςΠολυμενάκος]

Many many thanks for this vid, guys! Excellent, intuitive discussion of the topic. Love your work!

[@Cyclingchoice]

After a quick out of the saddle effort, for example a pinchy little climb, if you can glide back into the seat without any obstruction and adjustments then your seat height is pretty well set. This is the method I use to validate the seat height. Works for me.

[@CamNicholls]

Thanks for sharing mate

[@peted9296]

wow. by far the best discussion on this topic i’ve seen. thank you!

[@OFlick-en8yw]

Very informative series of Vlogs. I have thoroughly enjoyed following your discussions with Neil. Due to your videos, I have gradually and significantly improved my comfort on the saddle to a point where the tingling sensation on my fingers have dissipated. cheers!

[@PW-CreakySaddle]

Thanks, I think you have explained why only the back of one knee hurt when saddle was too high.

[@GarthBraithwaite13]

Great video - Exactly what Neill mentioned - was 20mm to high - been like that for 4 years

[@fernandog.aguirre2791]

4 years riding 20 mm too high.....that means that now your are riding too low. Watch out with that...it caused me few month of the bike, too low I grinned my medial meniscus! 10 weeks off the bike! But having the saddle low was a powerful experience!

[@RobWhittlestone]

Really interesting and it all makes sense. I think my saddle has been too high these last 62 years.

[@JeffSinon]

Probably the best video on seat height I’ve seen. However, even after watching this video at least a dozen times Neill never really answered your question regarding how to tell if the seat height is too low. At roughly the 9 minute mark, where you specifically ask him how to tell if it’s too low, he goes right to talking about how he can tell within a millimeter or two if it’s too high without ever answering the question. So, I can’t be the only one wondering how to tell if indeed the saddle is too low??

[@andyapsay8220]

Good stuff. Did a 30 mile bike ride on a saddle that was a bit too high for me. I felt that “skip” as I pedaled usually at the top of the pedal movement. Im right side dominant but felt my left side was suffering. My triceps were fatiguing out and felt my shoulders sore. Took 2 inches off and it made so much of a difference.

[@dinoaustralia7752]

Best video on saddle height out there!

[@joeswright86]

What a video. The first half describes years of my riding exactly. Been through bike fits as well.

[@KayDat]

I had been planning on booking with Neill for ages but kept putting it off, until he moved away from Melb! Fantastic vid!

[@mountaintruth1deeds533]

92-93% of trunchiated leg length as I recall from Borcsewitz back in the 80s and LeMond concurred. Foot angle at the bottom of stroke is a good indicator as well as smoothness of cycle at higher rpm.

[@joesguitarshop8194]

Wow , tried the method today . He’s a genius!!!!

[@frankphoto2]

i want an appointment ! Fascinating - i will be riding with a whole new awareness and understanding.

[@imjustinjong3939]

Next thing I’ll do is to drop my seat height and up bit by bit.. thanks for the video. You may start another video about saddle position - front and back.

[@brucemastorovich4478]

Oh wow. I recently realized I was too high but been very very slowly nudging down. Didn't realize just how far off I was. Thanks!

[@ozzz3365]

This is great! What a deep understanding of the cycling process!

[@mujy82]

Thanks for the video, very informative. I did a "professional" bike fit with lasers and stuff to find out that my knee hurts no matter the saddle fore/aft position. What I noticed is that I chop on the top stroke on one leg drills. I lowered the seat with 20mm, no chopping anymore. Will try the 3mm/3min

[@cyc00000]

Great video yet again. I need to book an apppointment with neil once borders reopen.

[@Ob1sdarkside]

My commuter definitely has the saddle too high, bike fitting Jesus take a bow!

[@anthonyduncalf-uk]

Before I knew about the heel on pedal method I just used to guess the height. After hearing about the method I checked it and it was the same height . So that method works for me .

[@stevestewart-sturges2159]

This video is gold, mate...! Thank you !

[@750vfrman]

So that is why i feel, especially on the left stroke that I have a square wheel. I have been puzzling why I keep feeling this strange bump on every rotation. Off to lower my saddle just 3mm. Ride with friends tomorrow. Will report back.

[@manoelcarlosmartinsesilva2875]

Your videos and explanations are amazing. Thanks for doing it só greatfully

[@gregp3522]

Excellent video....never knew how important seat height was. With that said thou, I have several different types of riding shorts that may have more than 3mm differential in them. Just keep that in mind when setting your seat height.

[@batesady]

Great explanations in this one. Really informative. 👍

[@cliffordchaperon6795]

Really good Cam - if I was in Noosa I would go & see the bike fitter. Love the quality content.

[@adamkubiak1933]

I wish I could thank this guy by doing a bike fit with him. Different hemisphere, though...

[@brandonhord9130]

Another point is finding the optimal muscle fiber cross sectional area between the quads, hamstrings, and hip extensors. Too high of a seat will cause active insufficiency in the quads and too low of a seat can cause passive insufficiency in the glute max/hip extensors.

[@CamNicholls]

Thanks for sharing.