CAMPING for beginners | Ep 01 | Is Wild Camping ILLEGAL in the UK ?

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CAMPING for beginners | Ep 01 | Is Wild Camping ILLEGAL in the UK ?
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@matthewread7220
@matthewread7220 4 жыл бұрын
One way to check if something is illegal in UK is to ask yourself is it fun? If the answer is yes then it's illegal
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Usually the case
@danielrinsemandawson500
@danielrinsemandawson500 4 жыл бұрын
So true lol
@christinestjohn1911
@christinestjohn1911 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair these kinds or laws are set up to prevent travellers from up and calling the national parks their home, I rekon as long as you follow LNT nobody's gonna bother kicking up much of a fuss. (In my experience in wales anyway...)
@bp968
@bp968 4 жыл бұрын
@@christinestjohn1911 that shouldn't be necessary though. In the USA the national *parks* often have strict camping rules (the busier the park the more strick the rules typically) while the national *forests* are usually totally open for wild camping (within reason. You can't just setup camp in one spot and live there. Well, your not supposed to anyway!). I believe its simply another advantage of being a fairly young country. We had way more space than we had people so unlike the UK people hadn't had time to slap their flag down everywhere and call it theirs. We also go lucky with having a few strong conservationists in the government. The entire world would be worse off if those people hadn't protected Yosemite, Yellowstone, and in my case my backyard, the smoky mountains.
@Thorny5718
@Thorny5718 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@iberiksoderblom
@iberiksoderblom 4 жыл бұрын
In Denmark EVERYTHING is illegal. So I choose to ignore it. In the last 45 years, I havent been found or spottet once !!! Now I'm training my youngest kid in keeping low profile and leaving no trace and bringing home trash we find.
@slowfox532
@slowfox532 4 жыл бұрын
Same in Germany. I do wildcamping since 1978 constantly without any problems. Leave no trace obviously and I never have a fire. In the summer I go stoveless anyway. Along popular hiking routes it is not legal but usual accepted if you set your tent beside of a shelter you will always find along hiking trails. If I don't find a shelter, I set my tent on any acceptable spot directly beneath the trail. Never had any problems. Usually I don't use the shelters due to rodent problems.
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
I think if you're respectful and discreet there's no problem at all
@EventyrsorenDenmark
@EventyrsorenDenmark 4 жыл бұрын
Jep,easy to wild camp in Denmark !!!!
@sosteve9113
@sosteve9113 4 жыл бұрын
I do wildcamping in Belgium,its a lot harder because of the density of people living around, It's becoming a sport for me
@chrismoon7758
@chrismoon7758 4 жыл бұрын
This is not strictly true I'm a Brit living in Denmark and there are many free camping areas known as "shelters" plus the ministry of Environment and Food does allow camping in some woodland areas eng.naturstyrelsen.dk/experience-nature/sleeping-outside-in-nature/ . Sweden is the place to go for wild camping :)
@uknighthuntingvision93
@uknighthuntingvision93 Жыл бұрын
I was wild camping last night in my Fjallraven Abisko lite 1 last night in the Peak District in an area I have never been before. I did not check the map. After a beautiful successful night camping with most extraordinary views; I got up early as I had an hours hike to the car, and had work in the day. As I was waking up, I could clearly hear shouts (farmers) and lots of sheep making a racket and moving. As I packed the camp up I saw a female on the horizon with a sheepdog watching me (another farmer). She approached me with a very loud good morning and I returned the courtesy. We started talking about how wonderful the morning is. She explained she and the other farmers were moving the sheep to a lower enclosed field to move them no doubt to the market. In the conversation I made the assumption that the land I was on was controlled by the National Trust. To my surprize she made clear this was private land and not in control of the National Trust. I immediately apologized for basically trespassing on her land without permission (no doubt there were rights of way, but rights of way do not include camping). She clearly could see I had left no trace, and that I had a sincere respect of the land and of her right to control who was on her land. She smiled and said it was ok and that she had no problem with me as a person camping. What she did have issues with were ignorant people who leave rubbish lying around and have fires. So this goes to show, that when told land is privately owned, don't go on the defensive but show you respect the rights of the owner and try to make them like you by respecting their wishes. You never know you might get permission to use their land to camp in future.
@2649
@2649 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Wholesome story.
@LinariaFreeze
@LinariaFreeze 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from Norway, so it's a strange concept to me that you wouldn't be allowed to camp in the wild. Very happy to live in Scotland! The laws in Scotland seem to be exactly the same as in Norway, which are all based around common sense.
@jmaccsarmiesofmiddleearth
@jmaccsarmiesofmiddleearth Жыл бұрын
Amen.
@jeffbanks9955
@jeffbanks9955 Жыл бұрын
Scottish people aren't very welcoming to wild campers though. Especially up in the northern highlands, people can be very hostile towards campers and don't want them on their property. They are very territorial.
@Sunray-Scumbag
@Sunray-Scumbag Жыл бұрын
@@jeffbanks9955 untrue. We don't take kindly to the hordes of campervans that descend on our roads and pack in passing places making it impossible for locals to go about their day. Also campervans usually bring everything with them and this contribute nothing to local communitys. I have never heard of anyone in Scotland who would care about a tent on the side of a hill or on top of one of our many mountains. Leave no trace. If there are livestock leave them be and close all the gates you cross. Simple.
@joker28666
@joker28666 9 ай бұрын
Its not a strange concept, just go around the parks where you live and more often than not you will at least find a few pieces of litter. Me and you would probably never do that, but for a couple of frat boys who would decide to go out to drink and camp in a beautiful wild remote part of a country, the chance of leaving litter behind is much bigger. This is also the reason countries decided to make it illegal. In Slovenia for example you could wild camp legally anywhere around the 1980's, nowadays its all forbidden for this exact reason.
@TheVanderfulLife
@TheVanderfulLife 3 жыл бұрын
"Don't ask for permission, beg for forgiveness"....providing as you mentioned leave no trace, stay away from people, pitch late and leave early then this is what I go by!
@Lee-xs4dj
@Lee-xs4dj 2 жыл бұрын
If you leave no trace then you can just deny you camped, if they find you with a tent up just say you didn't camp in it, you just pitched it to eat your sandwich in
@michaelcoogan1654
@michaelcoogan1654 4 жыл бұрын
When I wild camp I take my challenger tank with me. When I get caught out, Which I often do because I am easy to track! I get obstropolous. Which is why I take the tank. They always back down. It’s a small price to pay for my otherwise ultralight camping. The only other extra I have to take is a lightweight military tank cover.
@nicolab2075
@nicolab2075 3 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂😆
@youngdylan5083
@youngdylan5083 3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it crazy ‘all the land is privately owned’ At some point in time someone just decided to claim the land and put some deeds on paper that made it theirs. What a farce.
@Om-ry4tb
@Om-ry4tb 3 жыл бұрын
The Enclosures, in the 18th and 19th centuries the ruling classes (the rich basically) passed laws in parliament which stole the common land from the people - rendering us powerless to refuse subjugation, by dependency on their employment. www.univoxmarketing.co.uk/tag/enclosure-acts/
@Om-ry4tb
@Om-ry4tb 3 жыл бұрын
@Gospodin Nobody (Black Lives definitely Matter ❤)
@bombercountyblues
@bombercountyblues 3 жыл бұрын
There's a good documentary on yt called "who's Britain is it anyway" which explains exactly who owns what.. go check it out.
@Om-ry4tb
@Om-ry4tb 3 жыл бұрын
@Jordan M hey Jordan M, yeah even white racists lives matter. Shame they're too stupid to see we're all the same human beings and racism is simply colour-based class hatred that gets us fighting eachother instead of fighting the rich who keep us all down to make money out of us.
@maxmac7845
@maxmac7845 3 жыл бұрын
It was stolen off the common man by the enclosures act by the wealthy and powerful. Nothing has changed.
@shen7256
@shen7256 4 жыл бұрын
“Make sure you don’t pitch your tent in the middle of a shooting range”... noted!👍
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Sound advice isn't it 😂
@shen7256
@shen7256 4 жыл бұрын
@Paul Messner - Sure is! We’ve got a heavy artillery range in Dorset that looks perfect for wild camping. May just pass following your well considered advice. 🤙
@Songguy1985
@Songguy1985 3 жыл бұрын
Baldrick, that is a military map. It's unlikely to denote interesting flora and fauna.
@5ynthesizerpatel
@5ynthesizerpatel 3 жыл бұрын
@@shen7256 - I'm guessing you're talking about the Lulworth ranges - some friends of mine tried it, had their tents up for about 20 minutes before the MPs turned up to turf them off. They tried being as stealthy as possible and had no idea how they managed to be seen, so it's a fairly safe assumption that any access to the ranges is very carefully monitored
@5ynthesizerpatel
@5ynthesizerpatel 3 жыл бұрын
@K Man - Former Bootneck here mate - they were a few DFL mates of mine and I had no idea what they were planning - and to be fair they didn't either - they'd just spotted what looked like some decent wild camping / fishing spots on google maps and decided to go for it - had I known what they were planning, I might have saved the Mps the effort and slotted them myself :-)
@NANGSGARAGE
@NANGSGARAGE 4 жыл бұрын
What came first? Camping or the law? 🏕
@thinkingmachine354
@thinkingmachine354 4 жыл бұрын
NANGSTAGRAM TV law. Camping is about time away from home in a temporary one. Laws are enforced social rules. Rules amongst a group goes way back. I’d rather the freedom though myself so I’ll probably nip to Scotland.
@Creed-lp4wj
@Creed-lp4wj 4 жыл бұрын
Camping. The law is a harmful artificial human concept.
@thomaslowdon5510
@thomaslowdon5510 4 жыл бұрын
Laws are for the good of all.
@2sik_UK
@2sik_UK 4 жыл бұрын
@@Creed-lp4wj it's not harmful, it literally prevents people from harming you
@lunadevass5561
@lunadevass5561 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomaslowdon5510 eff off Boris.
@railinly610
@railinly610 3 жыл бұрын
The restrictions are a denial of a basic human right in the UK. There is a 'not in my back yard' atmosphere generally speaking but really people should be allowed to RESPONSIBLY camp, and responsibility is key. Take only photos, leave only footprints. Thanks for this video, it needs saying.
@MRIWILLPLAY
@MRIWILLPLAY Жыл бұрын
The problem is people can't be trusted. I've seen plenty of "stealth" camper on KZbin claiming they don't leave a trace but will cut down trees and don't cover up their fires when they are done.
@colinwood7020
@colinwood7020 9 ай бұрын
You've got to have boundaries otherwise someone could just set up camp in your garden.
@crookedpaths6612
@crookedpaths6612 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry sir, I’m not camping. I’m sheltering from the weather.
@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261
@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 3 жыл бұрын
Tent? It's merely a large poncho with a lightweight frame that I've tethered to the ground here temporarily, Sir.
@OldNavajoTricks
@OldNavajoTricks 3 жыл бұрын
Treehouse officer? This is just an elevated wildlife observation station with a long drop toilet and cooking/bunking features..
@dogjustdog4466
@dogjustdog4466 4 жыл бұрын
Camping in south west Ireland!!! No one comes near you....if they do it's to say hello!
@pinkskud1
@pinkskud1 4 жыл бұрын
In the UK you do not need an activity to be legally sanctioned in order to partake. Just because something is not legal, does not make it illegal. Freedom (as distinct from right) of access can be presumed unless otherwise clearly signed/stated as restricted. You don't need permission to walk up someone's drive and post a letter, it's a presumed freedom. Trespass is not a crime.
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Good info there. Thanks for sharing and watching.
@jonnybirchall846
@jonnybirchall846 4 жыл бұрын
pinkskud1 spot on ... love it 👍🏻
@cropking7808
@cropking7808 4 жыл бұрын
Yep no such crime as trespassing
@johnvancamper1987
@johnvancamper1987 4 жыл бұрын
@@cropking7808 Trespass is not a criminal offence in the UK but it is a Tort ( or Civil Wrong ) against the land owner. It is possible to be taken to County Court by the land owner but the remedy is restricted to paying the land owner for actual damages caused which is usually little or nothing. In such cases courts have always been unwilling to award legal costs to the land owner because they greatly outweigh the actual losses complained about.( Disproportional costs. ) So the land owner either wastes his own time taking you to court for next to no compensation or worse still pays a solicitor to do so and doesn't get that back in court. Of course sometimes court cases are started as a bluff demanding modest sums to settle out of court but this really is just a scare tactic which usually results in the trespasser paying up when there was really no need to. "Trespassers will be prosecuted" signs are a bluff. I learned that on my 1st day as a trainee gamekeeper many years ago. Trespass with a firearm is a criminal matter as is aggravated trespass which is where you've been told to go but refuse to. Hope this helps. John
@ronnieg6358
@ronnieg6358 4 жыл бұрын
@@cropking7808 All they can do is to ask you to leave - if they can find you. Illegal migrants/homeless people camp on the streets in many towns in UK permanently with no permission or expulsion!
@CryptoRoast_0
@CryptoRoast_0 4 жыл бұрын
"To obey an unjust law is to give credence to its oppressive power" Good people disobey bad laws.
@captainheinie6355
@captainheinie6355 4 жыл бұрын
Agree with you. ..Acts and Statutes are man made laws. ......Law of the sea .Needs your consent. ....Common law is the ONLY law of the land. Good people practise their rights to go camping. No offence intended.
@nossasenhoradoo871
@nossasenhoradoo871 4 жыл бұрын
"Good people disobey bad laws. " Good people get rid of bad governments who make bad laws. Unfortunately democracy doesn't get rid of bad governments; it merely gives then a license to continue!
@another3997
@another3997 4 жыл бұрын
@@captainheinie6355 As long as you're happy to have people camping without permission on YOUR property too. Maybe drive your car, if they don't damage it or make a mess. Thanks, nice of you to allow any of us to come round. You don't mind if I watch your TV, have a shower and sleep in your bed too?
@CryptoRoast_0
@CryptoRoast_0 4 жыл бұрын
@StonkingDave care to elaborate?
@captainheinie6355
@captainheinie6355 3 жыл бұрын
@@svmwasthesheet1971 Hi there wonderful people. Thank you for your reply. I have practiced law for over 39 years, Here in the UK. we are still a common law country. The powers that be, are trying very hard to steer everyone away form common law. but. I still win cases using common law method. Greetings from us . and a hug.
@doppey33
@doppey33 4 жыл бұрын
I'll just generally camp wherever the hell I want within reason. Make no mess, leave no trace and play dumb if ever caught out but be polite and move if they really want you too.
@dodibenabba1378
@dodibenabba1378 3 жыл бұрын
That's always the way to go! Politeness works wonders, more people should try it but their super sized egos won't let them.
@tombprospectorvulcan6440
@tombprospectorvulcan6440 3 жыл бұрын
@@dodibenabba1378 yep amazing where a bit of charisma can take you
@jbearmcdougall1646
@jbearmcdougall1646 4 жыл бұрын
I wildcamp around N.I and haven't been caught yet.... Scotland leading the way again.... I don't ask anyone where to camp, I camp where I like and leave no Trace...I'm a wildcamp Ninja..!
@Ardass486
@Ardass486 4 жыл бұрын
You should work and pay tax,anything else should be illegal, unless you have a wealthy bloodline.
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Good info there. Thanks for sharing and watching.
@Ardass486
@Ardass486 4 жыл бұрын
@@PaulMessner My caustic sense of humour. I took to boaty camping,it's harder for the government slave enforcement agencies to regulate you. Try it,not as far from your budget as you may think.Small sailboat,£300 with everything inc. Maritime laws are much better.
@jbearmcdougall1646
@jbearmcdougall1646 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ardass486 what do you mean..?
@markc7955
@markc7955 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah Scotland is great for this. When my kids get a bit older want to take them a walkabout across Scotland for a week or two. Just walk and camp where we feel.
@leeomurchu1213
@leeomurchu1213 4 жыл бұрын
In a nutshell wild camping is permissible to those keeping a low profile and practicing a LNT policy. Unfortunately it's the idiots pitching 8 man tents,lighting huge fires and making a general racket that ruin it for the genuine campers. Nice video Paul should be an interesting series.
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you enjoy the rest of the series. Thanks for watching.
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you enjoy the rest of the series. Thanks for watching.
@__8168
@__8168 4 жыл бұрын
yep, what's the obsession with lighting fires in virtually all newb camping videos?
@sykessaul123
@sykessaul123 3 жыл бұрын
They’re part of the romanticised, primitive aesthetic that many have in their head when it comes to camping. They’re also enchanting when you’re just sitting down and relaxing after a full day’s walk. I see the appeal and tbh I don’t see a problem with it if you source your wood properly (deadfall) and make sure it won’t spread, shame is that most people don’t know how to do either.
@RagingHard0n
@RagingHard0n 2 жыл бұрын
@@__8168 what is the point in camping if your not going to do it properly. Build your own fire and cook your food on it. None off this gas stove ballshit. Be responsible with the fire and make sure it’s out when your finished with it. Clean up your mess and just keep the place how it was when you turned up. Simple
@dougsaunders8109
@dougsaunders8109 3 жыл бұрын
I wild camped coming back through German with two friends. We were well off the beaten track. A forestry worker came through early in the morning, about 15 mins later the armed police turned up…. PASSPORT! While they checked us via the radio we packed up. Only the grass was flat to show we had been there. Big smile from the senior office, in perfect English, remember in Germany we work on Saturday’s. Off we went
@hillsby9380
@hillsby9380 4 жыл бұрын
Planned my first "long distance trail" for later this week and was wondering about the wild camping laws and didn't fully understand what the websites were saying and luckily I stumbled upon this video! Thank you for clarifying and explaining in more understandable detail. This has given me more peace of mind for completing the hike! Thank you for the perfect timing of uploading your video! Hike on from N.I ⛰️
@BushCampingTools
@BushCampingTools 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, "covert camping" pitch late strike early, leave no trace, camo tent color LOL!
@OneBiteoftheCherry
@OneBiteoftheCherry 4 жыл бұрын
Or even more stealthy: bivi bag!
@BushCampingTools
@BushCampingTools 4 жыл бұрын
@@OneBiteoftheCherry LOL, too right!
@stephenrichardson8351
@stephenrichardson8351 2 жыл бұрын
I used to live in Scotland (Newcastle now). When living in Scotland I did a lot of bushcraft and wild camping. I’m Scotland there is the freedom to roam act. You can basically go wherever you like, but are not allowed to approach any private buildings on land such as a barn or farm house. Some of the areas in Scotland are absolutely incredible.
@nimbob19
@nimbob19 Жыл бұрын
this might be a silly question, but are you allowed to wild camp in the parts of scotland where nobody lives? like right up in the sticks
@pantzman
@pantzman 4 жыл бұрын
"In Norway, a central right has been established in the form of the public right that guarantees residents access to nature, even though the land is owned by private landowners." - Google translate In short it means you can camp pretty much everywhere* as long as its uncultivated. On cultivated land you need permission. From my calculations you can camp without permission on about 88,5% of the area of Norway (not counted Svalbard, Jan Mayen etc.). The rest is made of: 1,7% built up area (residential, industrial etc.) 3,5% farmland 6,2% freshwater (not much suitable for camping is it?). *150 meter from inhabited huts and houses. *Can camp for up to 2 days. Longer if very remote (for example high mountains).
@MrJimtimslim
@MrJimtimslim 4 жыл бұрын
I think Scotland has similar
@tyty21315
@tyty21315 4 жыл бұрын
james tomlinson it does.
@paullangford8179
@paullangford8179 4 жыл бұрын
Freshwater is OK for camping in the winter. When frozen...
@LinariaFreeze
@LinariaFreeze 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from Norway and live in Scotland. The rules are extremely similar and based around common sense and respect for nature. Very happy be living in this part of the UK, although I really miss wild camping in Norway.
@kovacsgaborpal
@kovacsgaborpal 4 жыл бұрын
I tried to research what I was allowed to do in terms of wild campaign back when I lived in the UK but the ambiguity put me off. This is by far the best way for me to recharge mentally so the restrictions were quite depressing. I wish I knew someone this knowledgable about the topic back then. Thanks for the informative video!
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Glad you enjoyed the video
@samviper5328
@samviper5328 2 жыл бұрын
I am from the UK. I am going with my friend on our 1st wild camp at the end of the month. I found the video very informative & im looking forwards to the rest of the series. Put alot of things into perspective for me. Keep up the good work 👍🏻
@ecotts
@ecotts 4 жыл бұрын
Rule number one when camping in England, "Stay Off The Moors" as stated in a well known documentary An American Werewolf in London (1981). Happy Camping everyone!
@benlotus2703
@benlotus2703 4 жыл бұрын
Stay on the roads Keep clear of the moors
@SuperPeterkelly
@SuperPeterkelly 3 жыл бұрын
And don’t got into a pub called the slauered lamb
@redalias7931
@redalias7931 3 жыл бұрын
Puffff bring a bible
@JDM-Chaser
@JDM-Chaser 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao I've camped on moors before it's not that bad 😂 if you camp in a valley your out of way of pretty much everything and have shelter from most winds
@magmaflow-rc4487
@magmaflow-rc4487 4 жыл бұрын
Brother I’ve been camping all over London in green spaces and parks God knows how many laws are broken lol😂
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
So the law says you can't camp virtually anywhere...but in reality you can get away with camping almost anywhere if you're discreet
@bluemanpaul
@bluemanpaul 4 жыл бұрын
@@PaulMessner I think the spirit of the law is that they just don't want people making a mess of the wilderness. So the law stands to dissuade bad behaviour and gives land owners an opportunity to seek damages. They don't ever expect to have to do that though and will 99.99% of the time turn a blind eye to respectful campers
@shanslam1970
@shanslam1970 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@inkubatorius
@inkubatorius 4 жыл бұрын
@Jeff Hambleton your teeth fall out.
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@JohnParishPhotos
@JohnParishPhotos 4 жыл бұрын
Very well thought out video, and very informative. This is going to help with a lot of people's questions. I can see that this series is going to be very helpful for myself and many other people. Thank you for taking the time and effort in doing this.👍
@MrTakissullivan
@MrTakissullivan 4 жыл бұрын
I was glued to this very informative vid, the information about the OS maps was excellent. I have the map for Dartmoor and have wild camped in remote locations and as you said leave no trace of your stay. Thank you Paul.
@darrenboorman4365
@darrenboorman4365 4 жыл бұрын
In summary, don’t get caught. If you do get caught, pass the personality test.
@ranger20112011
@ranger20112011 3 жыл бұрын
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@OldNavajoTricks
@OldNavajoTricks 3 жыл бұрын
Private video Loki...
@spectralwalrus8766
@spectralwalrus8766 4 жыл бұрын
I have done John O'Groats to Land's End (via Cape Wrath trail), and the Pembrokeshire Coastpath, and although it is technically only legal in Scotland, it isn't like it is illegal either in England or Wales. I have only had one situation where someone has questioned us being pitched somewhere, but it was in a reasonably built up area near Barnstaple, and it was a police officer. All he did was ask what we were doing there and he let us stay there as long as we moved on in the morning. My own backpacking rules are: 1. Take into consideration the situation. How far have you walked? Is a farmer's field the only place you can camp for some miles? 2. Pitch late, leave early, and don't leave anything behind. 3. Be completely respectful, if someone wants you off their land, explain your situation, and be reasonable. The land owner has a right to be concerned. 4. Think about who might take offence to you pitching in that space - any landowners, farms, etc nearby? 5. Try and conceal yourself - near woodland, bushes, or a dip in the ground.
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
That's a good set of rules and good advice for anyone wild camping
@RoadToFreedom29
@RoadToFreedom29 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to know more of that route you did from lands end to John o'groats via Cape wrath trail ect. As I'm just looking into doibg lands end to John o'Groats in the next couple of years.
@spectralwalrus8766
@spectralwalrus8766 4 жыл бұрын
@@RoadToFreedom29 Hiya mate, if you'd like to know, pop me an email at BenHazeldenFilms@gmail.com - I'll give you a overview of what we did! :D
@nseight
@nseight 4 жыл бұрын
@@RoadToFreedom29 Hi :-) I recently found a channel you might enjoy (has the Cape Wrath trail) as well as many others it's the- Hounds of Howgate :-)
@RoadToFreedom29
@RoadToFreedom29 4 жыл бұрын
@@spectralwalrus8766 perfect buddy I will pop a email over to you tomorrow 👌
@spitzdw1
@spitzdw1 2 жыл бұрын
Every video I watch from you Paul informs, and is really genuine, but in every video it’s your enthusiasm for everything camping that I love. Keep it up pal and thanks
@BenjaminWilcock
@BenjaminWilcock 4 жыл бұрын
Great video mate some quality info in there. Looking forward to seeing how this series progresses. Atb, Ben.
@davids9549
@davids9549 4 жыл бұрын
Good summary Paul! It's a complicated subject, riddled with ambiguity, and you've covered it really well.
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you David glad you enjoyed it
@boris100ish
@boris100ish 4 жыл бұрын
Top info to all wild campers. Well presented as ever. Thanks for taking the time to share. All the best Pete
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Pete thank you for watching
@shadow-Sun
@shadow-Sun 4 жыл бұрын
very nicely done and informative videos no wandering off topic , no digressing into rambling stories , just plain English educationally presented informative uploads , nicely edited too ...thanks alot for your hard work .
@laurac976
@laurac976 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve recently started watching your videos and they’re fab! Can’t wait for the next video! I am yet to do my first wild camp, but after watching your videos I feel like I will be able to take that next step and do my first wild camp next year :) just need to get the gear now!
@RobertJohnKerrUK
@RobertJohnKerrUK 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul.... I recently did my first solo wild camp.... and have been put off by the legality side of things.... but thanks to this video I now feel I can go ahead and get some more under my belt...... Thanks so much for sharing 👍👍👍
@donaldwalter1317
@donaldwalter1317 3 жыл бұрын
That was very informative Paul. Nothing like various rules and regulations to make what could be a really pleasant camping excursion into a bureaucratic nightmare.
@MrDazP1adv3ntures
@MrDazP1adv3ntures 4 жыл бұрын
Very well presented and explained Paul. I love TGO and this is something I want to film next with my bag of technology. Best of luck with the series , really helpful and much appreciated.
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
I really fancy doing the TGO next year.
@chrismoon7758
@chrismoon7758 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting Paul thanks for taking the time to put this together. I'm looking forward to the next one :)
@mickball1216
@mickball1216 4 жыл бұрын
The whole buzz about camping off grid is not asking anyone for permission to do anything because I was born here and if I feel like I want to camp outdoors I will, as long as you’re responsible and keep tidy...the world has gone totally mad...common sense does not apply anywhere these days...
@another3997
@another3997 4 жыл бұрын
You're exactly the type of person the laws are aimed at. The ones that think they can do what they want, when they want. Of course, when somebody does what they want with YOUR property, you would go mad... because that is somehow different. If you found a stranger had been in your living room whilst you were out, would you accept it if they hadn't made a mess? Morally, why is that any different to camping on someone else's land?
@mickball1216
@mickball1216 3 жыл бұрын
A Nother You obviously don’t have enough intelligence to understand my point, your exactly the sort of person who needs to be spoon fed information on anything you do in life, nobody owns the land, it’s mine and yours to use, obviously if you leave a mess then obviously that is different, I don’t follow the leader , common sense is key so I suggest u stay indoors..
@mickball1216
@mickball1216 3 жыл бұрын
A Nother idiot for sure
@tallen1628
@tallen1628 3 жыл бұрын
@@another3997 I think that's a bit of a straw man argument - you really can't argue logically that pitching a tent on someone's land, possibly miles away from where they actually reside, is the same as breaking into somebody's home. Morally they are not the same thing at all. Actually breaking and entering is entirely different from camping on somebody's land, surely you see that?
@robbrowne7625
@robbrowne7625 4 жыл бұрын
Clear and concise. The most direct and honest video ive seen regarding wild camping in the UK. I've been trying to get my head around the laws and so. Thank you for clearing that up for me Thank you.
@MrLooj69
@MrLooj69 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid Paul! Very comprehensive and clear and immensely useful to us "noobs". I look forward to future content and im subscribed for all of it!
@p.istaker8862
@p.istaker8862 4 жыл бұрын
Good presentation and very informative. Looking forward to the next one.
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it useful
@benjaminprince6424
@benjaminprince6424 4 жыл бұрын
Oi m8 you got a loicence for dat tent?!
@laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587
@laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587 4 жыл бұрын
lmao
@bjorne6259
@bjorne6259 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@attentivegingy48
@attentivegingy48 4 жыл бұрын
You got a permit to breath this air
@baijuthomas3716
@baijuthomas3716 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@benjaminprince6424
@benjaminprince6424 4 жыл бұрын
@Cill Blinton Go spunk on a dress good sir.
@bogdandima8139
@bogdandima8139 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Paul. This is very helpful. One of a kind material covering all aspects of wild camping.
@killslay
@killslay 4 жыл бұрын
Great tips mate, I live in Scotland so I wondered how it would work when I go south of the border. So glad I don't have to worry about where I can camp or wander normally!
@RMBRKFLD
@RMBRKFLD 4 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic, great way to encourage walkers on where they can go and advise people on the rules.
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching
@S.JCarpentry
@S.JCarpentry 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video I could literally watch your channel all day. Spot on
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for th4 kind words
@S.JCarpentry
@S.JCarpentry 4 жыл бұрын
@@PaulMessner welcome bud, I've recently got into wild camping need to get out on the hills more. Your videos are a great inspiration.
@jesstaylor4048
@jesstaylor4048 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton for making this video, been unable to find any other videos explaining the UK laws so this has been a huge help.
@mozfest
@mozfest 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video Paul. Looking forward to this series. After watching lots of your videos, (and others like Dean Reid, Andy Wardle), I am desperate to go on my first wild camp soon. This video has been really useful in building confidence and answering some big questions. Thank you and can’t wait for the rest of the series. Ian.
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Let me know how the first camp goes. Hope you like the series. Thanks for watching
@edendonald572
@edendonald572 4 жыл бұрын
What a great video! I've been wild camping for a while now and have always just hoped that noone would find me (successfully so far) but it's great to know what the actually prosecution is if someone did find me and kicked up a fuss. Cheers Paul, keep up the good work!
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Eden. Glad you liked it
@WyeExplorer
@WyeExplorer 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyable video and informative Paul. I just got back from Plynlimon in the Cambrian Mountains and had a dispute with a gamekeeper about Open Access land. I wanted to get to a source of a river and he said it wasn't open access. But it was. I was polite mind you. In fact if I'm wild camping I bear in mind exactly what you just said about tress-pass law. My brother and I would say, 'where do you want us.' That's right there is no need to panic. But yeah keep it clean and stealthy. Well, I enjoyed that - well presented. Mark
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate. Thanks for watching
@avel0001
@avel0001 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and series Paul. Looking forward to the next episodes.
@charliecooke5866
@charliecooke5866 4 жыл бұрын
Best video so far, thanks for speaking honestly and not trying to pretend it's all about getting permissions and being the goody two shoes! Good genuine advice, cheers
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words Charlie and you liked it
@ZDWildCamping
@ZDWildCamping 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. I'm sort of in the process of learning to wild camp in the UK and this is very useful.
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it useful. Thanks for watching
@hypo345
@hypo345 3 жыл бұрын
It's very sad that a year later we are on the brink of this being turned into a Police matter and not civil with the potential for arrest and large fines. Let's hope the Police crime bill doesn't get passed.
@fynnandfynner
@fynnandfynner 2 жыл бұрын
It's here now ,it can now be a criminal affence, unfortunately....
@hypo345
@hypo345 2 жыл бұрын
@@fynnandfynner Yes indeed another step in the removal of our freedom in this country.
@fynnandfynner
@fynnandfynner 2 жыл бұрын
@@hypo345 yes can't have people livivng in anything other than a house, can we, I mean how else can we keep tabs on our citizens. The traveller community aren't going to be happy, it's there way of life, and has been for generations, very sad indeed.
@thewildyorkshireman9229
@thewildyorkshireman9229 3 жыл бұрын
Great series, im just starting out my video journy and you are a inspiration and a real godsend to the camping community :)
@kennuff2
@kennuff2 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Paul, looking forward to the rest of the series. I actually did my first wild camp only last night on top of the Linvolnshire Wolds and didn't do too badly.
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you had a good first camp. Thanks for watching
@neilholmes8200
@neilholmes8200 Жыл бұрын
I'm embarassed to say I've been hiking for 20 years and only just found out about the colour system for open access land, thank you for the info I mean its probably in the key on the many o/s maps I own, but just never really noticed it before
@harrystone3527
@harrystone3527 3 жыл бұрын
This video is one of the most relaxing on KZbin, your voice is bloody amazing mate
@UpToNoGood83
@UpToNoGood83 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! even the first 5 seconds got my attention with the Brewdog beers next to the tent. keep up the great work.
@northbankmafia5399
@northbankmafia5399 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate for keeping us out of trouble. Keep up the good work. 😀
@robcunliffe3252
@robcunliffe3252 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks or this. Very informative. I’m looking at starting out as a lone/wild camper and this is some good advice, got to start getting lit together.
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you enjoy the rest of the series. Thanks for watching.
@robcunliffe3252
@robcunliffe3252 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Messner which would you recommend oex phoxx ii or the banshee 200 pro?
@sunnyjim1355
@sunnyjim1355 4 жыл бұрын
@@robcunliffe3252 🙄 You're not cut out for this mate.
@mikeandcheryl
@mikeandcheryl 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation Paul and absolutely factually correct. I’m 53 and I’ve wild camped since I was a teenager and I’ve only once been told to move on, which I did. The first thing a landowner has to do in a case of trespass is ask you to leave and he can only ever prosecute you for the cost of putting right any damage caused, that’s it.
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael and glad that you enjoyed it
@EpicPBear
@EpicPBear 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you Paul, I've been looking for a hobby to get out of the city, to enjoy the peace and quiet. Your guides are invaluable to me as a hiking novice😅
@stiv458
@stiv458 4 жыл бұрын
Great film Paul, thanks. Looking forward to the rest in the series.
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful
@6BRENO6
@6BRENO6 4 жыл бұрын
Currently 3:11am in Australia, was about to head to bed when I noticed a new vid up.... looks like I won’t be going to bed anytime soon 😁
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
The laws don't bother you so much in Australia though 😂
@6BRENO6
@6BRENO6 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Messner 😂 you have a point. Will be doing some Lake District Hikes next year
@OldFellaDave
@OldFellaDave 4 жыл бұрын
@@PaulMessner Sadly they do :( We have long lists of places we can't go into - the biggest being private land. More and more of our State and National Parks are also being closed off and camping permitted only in certain areas. Too many morons screwing it up for everyone :(
@K_ingh16
@K_ingh16 4 жыл бұрын
@@PaulMessner the spiders and snakes do
@andyisyoda
@andyisyoda 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Well done.
@Thatsymbol
@Thatsymbol 3 жыл бұрын
So even you camp in the wild
@MrDazza64
@MrDazza64 4 жыл бұрын
Another great vid Paul. Your vids have fast become my ‘go-2’ for all things light camping matey, I can’t thank you enough and I hope to bump in to you in the peaks someday to thank you in person. I’m only in south East Cheshire, so up round there and the roaches quite a bit taking snaps! Best regards, Dazza. 🇬🇧
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching
@journeywitharrows2742
@journeywitharrows2742 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thank you for making things so much more clear. I am hoping to do my first wild camping up in the Lake District hopefully this year 🤞🤞
@MrDanAng1
@MrDanAng1 4 жыл бұрын
I hike mostly in Sweden and Norway, both of these countries allow wild camping almost everywhere. Exceptions is within sight of buildings and in some national parks and nature preservation areas. This is based on what is easiest described as a "leave no trace policy". There is some exceptions, you are allowed to pick mushrooms and berries in both countries, you can make fires under the right circumstances (a little different rules between the countries) and a few other things, but for anyone who follow the leave no trace philosophy, they will always be well within the boundary of what is allowed.
@matthewvalorsa3460
@matthewvalorsa3460 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Daniel, out of interest what are the 'right circumstances' you refer to regarding making fires? I'm curious as to why its so forbidden in the UK. Thanks
@MrDanAng1
@MrDanAng1 4 жыл бұрын
@@matthewvalorsa3460 Sorry for a late answer, I've just been away on a trip in the mountains with no cell phone reception! 😊 "The right circumstances" is varying. There is generally allowed to make fires at public land, but that can be prohibited locally or countrywide during dry periods. Local rules often apply to national parks and nature preserve areas, some allow fires, some allow it only in special camp areas and some don't allow it at all, in those areas there is also often only allowed to use brought in firewood or firewood supplied by the local municipality in the camp cites. It is up to each individual to check out which rules apply to each area and if there is a prohibition to fires due to dry woods where fire can spread.
@davearonow65
@davearonow65 4 жыл бұрын
Its funny, we dont call it "wild camping" here in the States. We just call it camping.
@JoeZUGOOLA
@JoeZUGOOLA 4 жыл бұрын
America has some of the biggest family pay-per pitch sights out side of siria 😂 don't give us that! 😉
@slumbass
@slumbass 4 жыл бұрын
And you play football with your hands
@Vader-23
@Vader-23 4 жыл бұрын
Because its purely camping in the wild. Not in domestic sanctioned campsites. It's like yanks saying" waste paper bin" .... we just call it , a Bin! 😄
@Ryy86
@Ryy86 4 жыл бұрын
strange we call it camping on Scotland too.. the only wild areas are housing estates and cities
@Ryy86
@Ryy86 4 жыл бұрын
@@Vader-23 bad example Tim, im guessing everyone has 'waste paper bins' as we've been roped into the world wide scam of recycling
@abbottsadventures
@abbottsadventures 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul. Just wanted to say thanks for the videos, newish to wild camping and have found your videos the best and more importantly, most accessible for newbies.
@Fidahussainkhan
@Fidahussainkhan 4 жыл бұрын
Paul you are the MAN! What a load of useful info for a beginner like me. THANKS MAN AND STAY SAFE IN THE NEXT THUNDER STORM BOYO! Yes I saw that one where you had to do a runner in the middle of the night! Ha ha! Love you man.
@tezer296
@tezer296 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent advice and video giving the information I was looking for about a year ago. Looking forward to the other subjects and think your accurate when saying a lot of it is common sense. Cheers Paul
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Same as everything else in life Terry. Common sense usually prevails
@trixibel
@trixibel 4 жыл бұрын
Come to Sweden. Amazingly generous land access laws here! Great vid as always!
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Sweden is very much on my wishlist
@sunnyjim1355
@sunnyjim1355 4 жыл бұрын
"Amazingly generous land access laws here!" Yeah, that's what I hear.... too generous.
@christopherdavison8629
@christopherdavison8629 4 жыл бұрын
That was a massive help and great knowledge of landscapes detailed on maps ( never shown that in the army) I look forward to the next episode
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it Christopher
@Qndzicz
@Qndzicz 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul. Very educational video. It was very beneficial to summarize my knowledge regarding wild camping after doing it for so many years. Good job I shared with many of friends of mine.
@MrGreekstatue
@MrGreekstatue 4 жыл бұрын
Its very much legal in Scotland. Rights of access 2003.
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
I discuss the land reform act in the video. Cheers
@justinrobertsendoftheage
@justinrobertsendoftheage 4 жыл бұрын
thats what he said in the Video
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
@@justinrobertsendoftheage I'm guessing the comment was made without watching the video.
@jimcasey7478
@jimcasey7478 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul, being from the US I assumed backpackers in the UK had similar backpacking opportunities to wilderness. I still want to come over some day and head to the lakes district or Scotland but won’t be bringing my orange tent.
@pamelaadam9207
@pamelaadam9207 Жыл бұрын
They do in Scotland
@chrisdavies3825
@chrisdavies3825 4 жыл бұрын
Great video.I look forward to the rest of the series. I live on dartmoor and i love it dearly. But over the last couple of years the amount of litter i encounter is ridiculous. Yet another example of the few ruining it for the many i think. Anyway rant over,loved the video.Big thumbs up.
@duskymoonuk
@duskymoonuk 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Paul. Just started doing all this stuff, perfect resource!
@OneBiteoftheCherry
@OneBiteoftheCherry 4 жыл бұрын
It should be made legal to camp in national parks like Snowdonia, Breacon Beacons, Lake District, Peak District and the Yorkshire Moors. I believe it's our right to camp and use the land and be respectful.
@bobyounger6109
@bobyounger6109 4 жыл бұрын
There’s a panda car coming up that hill. And over yonder that looks like a SWAT team.
@Lee-70ish
@Lee-70ish 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers for that Paul . After many years of site camping I now want to wild camp . I've got the time (just retired) Got the kit .(a couple of serviceable tents) Now with your help I have some wild camping knowledge. Thanks Lee
@randyshart5160
@randyshart5160 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Paul, looking forward to the rest of the series. Glad I stay in Scotland though, far too much hassle south of the border! Good to see the Lanshan in slightly more favourable conditions 😉
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
The lanshan will be making an appearance in more videos so far not. Thank you for watching
@exiletsj2570
@exiletsj2570 4 жыл бұрын
The wild camping laws in this country, are very restrictive and very frustrating, they do make sense though. I wouldn’t want people trespassing on my private land. It’s just one of the drawbacks, of living on a small island.
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
I agree to an extent. I think it depends on where abouts. If it's a farmers field right next to his house, it's very different to 800m high up in the fells.
@weaversarms
@weaversarms 4 жыл бұрын
i want to know where everybody got all this private land from?
@manonamountain
@manonamountain 4 жыл бұрын
@@weaversarms Most of it passed down via robber barons etc, so be discreet if you want to camp on it and leave no trace!
@DMC888
@DMC888 4 жыл бұрын
weaversarms stolen from the people by the tribal chiefs. Passed down the generations via trusts to avoid inheritance tax.
@MrReddeviler94
@MrReddeviler94 4 жыл бұрын
This Video is perfect timing! I'm actually going wild camping in Buttermere and the surrounding over this Bank holiday weekend! Your a life Saver Paul!
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Buttermere is beautiful you will love it there
@robgregory941
@robgregory941 4 жыл бұрын
Great Vid Paul very inspirational, makes me want to get my tent out and enjoy the camping experience I enjoyed a few years ago.
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you found the video useful. Thanks for watching
@stukelful
@stukelful 4 жыл бұрын
Thankyou! This is extremely useful information. Looking forward to your next video.
@smithywick
@smithywick 4 жыл бұрын
Great video paul some sound advice 👍 like you say say common sense respect and manners don't cost anything and go a long way..
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you enjoy the rest of the series. Thanks for watching.
@hamishashcroft3233
@hamishashcroft3233 4 жыл бұрын
In Scotland we go anywhere and camp everywhere (nearly). Its great!
@sunnyjim1355
@sunnyjim1355 4 жыл бұрын
Them midges though... funny how they are never mentioned in any Scottish Tourism pamphlets.
@MegaSkiboy
@MegaSkiboy 3 жыл бұрын
The right to roam in Scotland is the best.
@oscarwoodly7392
@oscarwoodly7392 Жыл бұрын
Great video Paul, super useful, especially the bit about decoding the OS Explorer maps!
@DisabledPrepper
@DisabledPrepper Жыл бұрын
Exceptionally relevant reference video. Thank you very much. Really appreciate this as a beginning hiker in the UK.
@xjessukx
@xjessukx 4 жыл бұрын
I look forward to your review of the lanshan 1
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't be too many weeks away
@nseight
@nseight 4 жыл бұрын
@@PaulMessner Hi :-) I hope the Lanshan is going to be as much fun as I hope it will be.I just bought mine 5 hours ago :-)
@Martin42944
@Martin42944 4 жыл бұрын
I have one and I like it, but definitely looking towards Paul‘s video. Especially if he has tips on pitching it.
@nickthegardener.1120
@nickthegardener.1120 4 жыл бұрын
Shtf, I'm going Scotland! 🇬🇧👍
@maskbox
@maskbox 4 жыл бұрын
Loved this video dude well done. Couldn't keep up with you moving around haha. Thank you for the info.
@whitetongueoutdoors
@whitetongueoutdoors 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video PM, looking forward to the rest of the series. atb
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Hope you like the series. Thanks for watching
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