Camping Trip Ruined! How can this happen? Campground overrun with toxic monsters! Santa fe NM

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@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

*FYI-------Just on the News tonight, the NM State Park there, Hyde memorial, has just closed all outdoor structures due to the tussock caterpillar/moth invasion. Warning again that people and pets are reporting injury from contact with them! They said that the invasion is expected to last another 2 weeks or so. *

@teresap.5991 3 ай бұрын

I came in contact with one at a park 4 yrs ago and suffered for 10 days with rash, pain, itching. I couldn't believe the misery it caused on my arm. It came across a picnic table I was at and brushed my arm and I didn't see it till too late.

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

Yikes! Yes, some of these people who say its no big deal need to read this. Thanks for watching and commenting!

@sherriet505 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for posting this. I was researching possible camping places and I wouldn't have known about these if you hadn't posted this. I'd hate for my dogs to have to deal with them.

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

You are welcome! That is why I did the video. Our dog acted like he didn't feel well for 2 days after we got back and we have no idea if it was these guys or something else. Hopefully they will be out of the caterpillar stage in next week or so and then not as dangerous for humans and pets. Unfortunately, the moth stage is the one that is deadly to the trees and I am hearing about brown trees in spots in the Sandia mountains already.

@HP-jm3zb 3 ай бұрын

I love how people bring small houses into the forest and call it camping 😊

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

You consider a 20' long trailer as a house? Different strokes.... thanks for watching.

@JohnAllen-gg1oz Ай бұрын

If it's not a tent it isn't camping.

@sutpremblair1438 2 ай бұрын

Thank You for posting this info. I live in SF but rarely go up into the S National Forest, now I know to stay away for sure.

@RobinT-treehugger 2 ай бұрын

The caterpillar are mostly likely all turned to moths now, so the danger is gone, for people and dogs anyhow. We'll have to wait and see how much damage is reported to the trees this summer. Hopefully it won't be too bad. Thanks for watching.

@wt9653 3 ай бұрын

I'll bet the caterpillars call you guys the monsters 😂

@nancyadamson6755 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing this I appreciate you telling me .❤

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

You are so welcome

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

Just a note: These caterpillars cocoon and become the Tussock Moth. The MOTH is the thing that is damaging to the trees. They eat the needles from the trees, and make them vulnerable to disease and bark beetle attacks. So while we were there, we only had the caterpillars. Hopefully, this situation will be gone in next few weeks but I don't know....

@sasquatchrosefarts 3 ай бұрын

Maybe the forest wants things in the forest to be eaten. Hence the caterpillars.

@deborahsimpson2732 3 ай бұрын

We had those in TX. Parents told all the kids to not get close to those caterpillars. Their hairs are stingers! We stayed clear.

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@shellchenonceau6987 3 ай бұрын

Oh wow! Good to know. Thanks for sharing. 🐛🐛🐛

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

Hopefully this cycle will be done soon! Thanks for watching.

@anapantz 3 ай бұрын

Wow... so interesting. I had no idea. Nature is at once beautiful and horrifying beyond words. Thanks for the info.

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

You know, I am one of those people always loving the critters you see in the forest, taking photos, and even letting them crawl on my hand. Thank goodness I saw the warning before I did it this time! Too many people reporting going to ER after contact with them! Thanks for watching.

@anapantz 3 ай бұрын

@@RobinT-treehugger I'm so glad you saw the signs as well! Good choice to leave.

@rosaliebarry7586 3 ай бұрын

I tried to pet one when I was 5 years old and my little finger hurt so bad ! Also my family camped at that camp ground north of Santa Fe about 1961. There was a sever rain storm in the night and we were stuck until a bull dozer came to push the debris away in the morning so all the campers could get out. At that time there wasn’t any kind of amenities such as I see in your video like the rock wall or camp fire stoves etc.

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

Both Black Canyon Campground and the Hyde Memorial State Park campgrounds have been improved since then. We normally really enjoy camping at either one... hopefully this invasion will be short! thanks for watching.

@gb-tm9vg 3 ай бұрын

I noticed that the campground is also kind of overgrown. I know bug infestations can occur but makes me wonder if more funding would help. We seem(the govt) to find the the money to kill people all over the world but somehow can't afford to take care of stuff here. Shame.

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

according to the forest service, this is a regularly occurring event and nothing can really be done. It isn't just the campground, its all over the forests.

@ritchierich7757 3 ай бұрын

It’s called nature

@Justmekpc 3 ай бұрын

It’s a campground not an rv park If you want to camp in a parking lot have fun

@raymondray8672 3 ай бұрын

⁠@@Justmekpc Yes, the caterpillars are part of nature,leave them be, ( I leave that to the experts on the moth issue), but the overgrowth is a wildfire problem, and should be part of forest management.

@Justmekpc 3 ай бұрын

@@raymondray8672 it’s a campground not an rv park

@roseannarabia6461 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for letting us know. ❤

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

Hopefully things will be getting back to normal soon with them all cocooning. Thanks for watching!

@reclhoss 3 ай бұрын

They look a lot like the little guys we had in TN. I was surprised to learn about them the hard way. They remind me of really bad fiberglass injuries.

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

yeah, when I read the description my brain went to fiberglass, which is painful! Sorta like grabbing a handful of a cactus here in NM (which I have done). Thanks for watching.

@Beverly-e4z 3 ай бұрын

Learn something every day.....who knew? And I'm almost 67! Thanks.

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@jamesgeorge1709 3 ай бұрын

Being a fisherman I would have thought about them as fishbait.😊😊

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

How would you put them on a hook without getting the stinging fibers in your fingers???? Thanks for watching!

@jamesgeorge1709 3 ай бұрын

@@RobinT-treehugger surgical gloves.

@reclhoss 3 ай бұрын

Chopsticks are good for this and stinky baits.

@luanneevans8397 3 ай бұрын

Wow, it's called nature

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

I realize that, as I said in the video.... normally it wouldn't bother me, but they sting, so we decided to leave. Hopefully this caterpillar phase is short.

@Mabel-wi6fy 3 ай бұрын

I have not ❤ noticed these in east Texas . Lord bless be safe. Thanks for info

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

Seems they are the biggest issue at higher altitude. The campground sits at 8500'. Thanks for watching.

@timthompson8297 3 ай бұрын

Omg, I didn’t know this problem existed.

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

Hopefully they will be cocooning soon, then its jut the moths you deal with! Thanks for watching.

@BetterWayLiving 3 ай бұрын

Did the campground send out any warning before you arrived?

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

NOPE. They should but didn't. We saw it on the local NEWS a few days before telling everyone to watch out for them up in Santa Fe area. We thought they meant when hiking, didn't realize they were anywhere near as bad as they are!

@Trilobite45 2 ай бұрын

I read somewhere the natural enemy of these caterpillars are 16 oz framing hammers & either flat point or round point shovels, all of which naturally reside in Hardware stores everywhere.

@RobinT-treehugger 2 ай бұрын

Unfortunately there are millions of them, and all over the forest, so good luck with that. And thanks for watching!

@Trilobite45 2 ай бұрын

@@RobinT-treehugger Probably why nature fires lightning bolts to starts forest fires every generation or so…

@carolinehannah3283 3 ай бұрын

Beautiful campground maybe you can return in the fall. Wish campground is it?

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

Black Canyon Campground, just NE of Santa Fe. Thanks for watching.

@Beautifullyanointed69 3 ай бұрын

It's a gorgeous Campground. These little buggers were everywhere unfortunately

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

@@Beautifullyanointed69 yeah, we LOVE the campground.... just not right now.

@featheredfan 3 ай бұрын

Caterpillar power! 👍 Take THAT, you humans, lol.

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

you are totally missing the point here. but thanks for watching!

@Beautifullyanointed69 3 ай бұрын

I was just there two weeks ago and had to go to the Urgent Care due to a massive rash from these buggers

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

Yikes! that's horrible. We wondered about the people there in tents and how bad they had it. At least we could get inside our camper away from them. Hope you are feeling better!

@Beautifullyanointed69 3 ай бұрын

@@RobinT-treehuggerthanks. Yea I was in a tent and it was a nightmare. Such a shame because it's beautiful there

@StevenMitchell-o7u 3 ай бұрын

We have those in Florida. Just part of nature.

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

Same family probably but not exactly the same. These kill the forests of fir trees at high altitude. Thanks for watching.

@erics2506 3 ай бұрын

🤠If stung use duct tape to pull as many of the fine as hair stingers out as soon as possible 👍

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

On the News they recommend washing with soap and water asap. I am just glad we didn't get any lingering affects like some people are reporting. Thanks for watching.

@Channelinterrupted 2 ай бұрын

Strength in numbers for them i guess lol i wouldnt stay either...any naysayers beed to stay there overnight and get stung.. geez

@RobinT-treehugger 2 ай бұрын

Thanks. Its a great campground in a fantastic location..... just not in July this year! Thanks for watching.

@valerief1231 3 ай бұрын

Imagine if a bag of Diatomaceous earth got puffed around… I know it can’t be done, but there’s an argument the park might need to consider, including contacting people with reservations to warn them before coming.

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

The problem is waaaay bigger than that. These guys are native to the high mountains, so they show up every year just not like this. This YEAR though they are extremely prevalent in all the mountain ranges, Carson, Santa Fe, and Cibola national forests.

@victorriceroni8455 2 ай бұрын

Sounds to me like the area could use some chickens.

@DjD5 3 ай бұрын

There is a “REASON FOR EVERYTHING IN NATURE,” stop the fear mongering!✌🏼

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

Not fear mongering just informing the public about this infestation. There are MORE than normal this year, that is why the forest service has put out the advisory. They are concerned so I am concerned. Thanks for watching.

@rickyjohnson6848 3 ай бұрын

Can’t we all just get along?😊

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

apparently not.

@lynbf691 3 ай бұрын

They’re itchy!

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

Yeah, Ron and I both got stung, or should I say zapped. Mine didn't itch, just got a red cluster of bumps on my calf. Ick. Hate things like that.

@diegoforest 3 ай бұрын

It's nature. Not sure how they hurt you.

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

they are covered in tiny white hairs which produce an irritant that can cause pain, rash, or even breathing problems. Its all on the WARNING that was posted.

@Beautifullyanointed69 3 ай бұрын

They're horrible I was just there and had to go to urgent care for my rash from them

@cecileroy557 3 ай бұрын

Yet another person who supposedly watched the video - never got the point! How is that possible?

@lisakleman5470 3 ай бұрын

Did the campground give you a refund? Because, even though it's not their fault, it seems wrong for them to accept money for an unsafe living situation.

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

No, and I doubt they would. They put up the warning posters on each of the pit toilets as well as other posts in the campground so I would guess that covers their liability. Hopefully, this invasion doesn't last long! thanks for watching.

@craigalbright5126 3 ай бұрын

@@lisakleman5470 the world is unsafe Want a refund really

@poodleprofessor 3 ай бұрын

We have several species similar to those in Texas.

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

Yuck! Do they sting? That was the hardest part for us. we both got stung and I am sure the dog did, also.

@poodleprofessor 3 ай бұрын

@@RobinT-treehugger some do, yes!

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

@@poodleprofessor uuugghhh.

@poodleprofessor 3 ай бұрын

@@RobinT-treehugger yeah, we had a bumper crop earlier this summer. All over my tires like yours. Crazy.

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

@@poodleprofessor ICK. They had a warning on the local news last week about it in Santa fe area, but unfortunately we had already booked the trip. They didn't say how bad it was, so we thought it was something we might see but not an invasion of the whole campground.

@williamdaniels3833 3 ай бұрын

Your new name is Nature Karen 😆

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

oh, I love nature dude, but not when it is destructive. YOu need to step back and learn about it. Have a nice day.

@knails5638 2 ай бұрын

Come ON MAN!!! this women is just trying to save others that might not KNOW!!! I for one, I'm thankful for this info! I had no idea😮

@keithbronson9777 3 ай бұрын

Such is life

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

We can only hope the "invasion" is not going to be as bad as the forest service thinks! These moths will tear up the trees if they continue at this rate.

@dalerohe2242 2 ай бұрын

Music is too loud

@RobinT-treehugger 2 ай бұрын

Sorry, it was windy and needed the music to help with the constant whistle. Thanks for watching.

@armageddonready4071 3 ай бұрын

If it’s a choice between those and mosquitoes, I’ll take those. Probably invest in diatomaceous earth to make a ring around my spot.

@RobinT-treehugger 2 ай бұрын

Mosquitos don't eat the needles off the trees, which is the big worry about such a huge bloom of these! Those moths can eat up a forest in the summer. We'll have to see how bad the damage come fall. Thanks for watching.

@4ager505 3 ай бұрын

Does Stephen King know about these critters? Another subject for a book? Next time you visit, maybe we can introduce you to our Buffalo Gnats...they bite!

@JohnAllen-gg1oz Ай бұрын

Why don't you crank the music up a little!!!!!!

@maggiemmoore 3 ай бұрын

Please turn the music off. I can barely hear you therefore I would be wasting my time if I continue to try.

@michaelamaestas4950 3 ай бұрын

Why is this even a problem ??? what ?

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

Did you watch the whole video? Did you read the WARNING that was posted all over the campground?

@michaelamaestas4950 3 ай бұрын

yes, I watched the video , yes, I saw the warning. Just don't touch them.

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

@@michaelamaestas4950 if only it was that easy. They were everywhere and moving, so as soon as you cleared them off of the picnic table or steps or whatever, you turn around and they were climbing back on. It was a never ending struggle to avoid them. We just gave up and left.

@Beautifullyanointed69 3 ай бұрын

@@michaelamaestas4950it's unavoidable not to touch them they're everywhere

@Beautifullyanointed69 3 ай бұрын

@@RobinT-treehuggerI was in a tent and I'm thinking I'm going to have to throw it away

@debs7411 3 ай бұрын

They're like itchweed with legs. I wouldn't want to stay with a dog

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

Yeah, our dog was walking around and kept laying down like he usually does at the campsite. I was so afraid he was getting stung! It just wasn't worth it to me to stay. Love the campground but will stay away in the future during July-Aug most likely! Thanks for watching.

@sircampbell1249 3 ай бұрын

Bug sprays fix all that

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

yeah, spray the whole national forest. LOL

@lf4061 3 ай бұрын

Yeah, and use of bug sprays are why we have now a shortage of pollinating insects and have to import our fruits and vegetable from other countries even though we have some of the largest agricultural acreage in the world.

@jeffpruden3234 3 ай бұрын

Better get out the vacuum 😤 😒 😐 🙃

@Beautifullyanointed69 3 ай бұрын

More like flame thrower 😆

@sammyday3341 3 ай бұрын

Yuck!

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

Hope it is over soon! Thanks for watching.

@sledge7583 3 ай бұрын

Isn't Mother Nature beautiful. Grow caterpillars 🦋 ✨️, live, and give yourselves back to Mother Earth.

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, we are seeing more than a "normal cycle" with these this year and that is the problem. I really don't want to see our forests getting damaged by an over-abundance of these critters like they are expecting.

@gbmarie836 2 ай бұрын

When I see what campers and outdoor activities that other states have to put up with and the insects and mosquitoes and tics,etc i will take my wonderful California any day.

@wilburshaw9330 3 ай бұрын

She’s the type you meet when camping. That’s why I don’t camp. Lol

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

If you watched the whole video and read the WARNING posted by the Santa Fe Forest service, you would see that I am complaining about the infestation killing the trees as well as the fact it stings people and dogs in campgrounds. I am very concerned where this is going to lead. The local NEWS channels reported this infestation with warnings and saying to expect a defoliation of the trees this year into next. It could be very, very bad for the whole forest, not just an inconvenience for campers.

@cecileroy557 3 ай бұрын

@@RobinT-treehugger Sad that person watched the whole video... but missed the point.

@lorihamlin3604 3 ай бұрын

I bet they catch rides on auto to other states.

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

@@lorihamlin3604 actually, as many hundreds we swept off our camper and truck before we left, we did find a few still clinging on when we got home. I doubt they lived long at 90+ degrees desert.

@lorihamlin3604 3 ай бұрын

@@RobinT-treehugger Thanks for heads up though. My granddaughter loves insects and they camp around the CO NM area a lot. I’ll mention to my daughter to keep an eye out. Caterpillars are fascinating to kids.

@samposkey7218 3 ай бұрын

Over dramatic.

@TrekkingwithDebandMike 3 ай бұрын

No one wants to kill butterfly kids.

@RobinT-treehugger 3 ай бұрын

The tussock moth isn't a pretty butterfly, and it eats the needles on the fir trees... so not quite the same thing. Its just part of the circle of life.