Can a 7-inch Drone Freestyle? RIPPING a BIG FPV Kwad!

Stepping up to a larger prop like a 7in can provide longer flight times and faster cruising speeds... can you get all this while still being able to throw down Freestyle??
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[@3eggerfpv397]

Ive been freestyling a 7" quad for awhile, and i prefer it over any other sized quad, so its nice to see a company finally bringing light to these bigger quads. They aren't just for LR cruising! In tighter proximity, yeah, just use a 6" prop which will tame that down a bit, and make it a bit more nimble. The only thing about this RR 7" version, IMO, it's under-motored. Trust me, go with a Brother Hobby 2806.5 motor, especially if you're going with a 2200 Mah lipo. As far as a 6" prop, Azure 6145 BSP by far the best!

[@3eggerfpv397]

@WU LYU Yeah, it will pretty much fly just like a 6" but in my case, with those BH motors, it flys with a whole lot more power than a typical 6" set-up! Have a look! kzbin.info/www/bejne/e17LZK2NqrGehqM Although the initial thumbnail depicts a 7" prop, this flight was with the Azure 6145 BSP!

[@3eggerfpv397]

@WU LYU - with those xing 2806.5 motors, you should have the same effect. I would definitely suggest those Azure 6145 BSP props as they're the best I've found by far! Although, make no mistake, you're going to get a much faster flight, not as agile, but faster all around, with a 7" prop, which I prefer, using the HQ 7X4X3 prop!

[@Ahmad-jv8yq]

​@@3eggerfpv397 what kv would u suggest

[@Ahmad-jv8yq]

​@@3eggerfpv397is 2500kv good

[@dieghe1984]

How the hell can you drive like this? It's unbelievable. You passed right between two trees BACKWARD. And so many other things that require such a hugely 3d space feeling. Awesome man..

[@creamythroat]

Hours and hours in the air, with drones and on simulators. Sims are fantastic, for learning so you don’t crash your real drone as often, flying when you can’t fly inside or outside. Fly to keep your skills sharp, even when you don’t have a drone.

[@boo7948]

fr ive been grinding the sim 2+ hours a day for over a week cause my drone is on the bench rn and i cant fly irl lol

[@MCsCreations]

Too small motors, guys. Try some BrotherHobby 2806s there and you guys are going to see the difference. Something around 1200kv for 6s and 1600~1700kv for 4s is the sweet spot. 😉

[@jrock7859]

bigger motors coming soon

[@MCsCreations]

@@jrock7859 Awesome! 🖖😃

[@flyingeyefpv]

Any upside to going with the smaller motor? I ordered mine with the 2306 and after reading the comments I’m starting to regret it…

[@Reecefpv]

Lol. Drew "it can still flip" then proceeds to pull a inverted yaw matty to trippy knife edge lmao. That was sick. Im finally able to have a 7" xl7 cant wait for that high speed flow

[@materia79]

Haha! That was making me speechless as well! I am now almost a year into the hobby and ended up crashing my XL7 recently.. I am also not 100% sure what it was but I guess one of the propellers broke as I was trying it on twin bladed props for some longer range but turns out its not such a good idea. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iX_JlmClo8-Ai5o

[@calypsoraz4318]

Ever since the TBS Discovery, I've loved the dead cat form factor

[@brandonhysell8183]

Flying 7 inch Since spring of last year as my goto rig. My tips 1When I break an arm I cut it down and use a jig to redrill it into a 5 inch arm and use it on the same model of drone that is my 5 inch racer. 2 Also I have all 1 ah( 1000mah) batteries and i have 3 in plugs on the 7 inch. And can choose 1 2 or 3 batteries in parallel. More nimble but less flight time Or max time but slow/ harder to flip.

[@traffictimes7609]

I only freestyle 7” dead cat frames. New to fpv but I like the + 10min flights. Great video and thumbs up!

[@chaserporter]

I think if you really want to free-style something with 7" props, you need bigger than 2306 motors. Get some T-Motor F80s (2408) or BrotherHobby 2507s or 2806.5s. Just my $.02.

[@dratsroef]

Chase Porter Agree. Even the huge 2514 Racerstar AirB motors fly very well on 7“

[@dividingbyzerofpv6748]

2806.5 1300kv 6s is a very happy motor combo for 7in

[@daverips_]

The new 2808 1500KV on 6S is epic. Shameless 7" 3PV plug: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qn6VoqOmqLR6b5Y

[@Kabab]

Bigger than 28...

[@chaserporter]

@@Kabab Thanks Bob. I kind of skipped 6, 7, and 8" and went straight to 9/10" frames when I wanted to go big. I have a Stand-in-quaddesign/AlmondRacing AR10 with BH 2812 1150kv motors and a Mayday Quadworks Patriot with BH 3115 1250kv motors. I fly both with either HQ 9x5x3 or Aeronaut 10x7 biblades on 6s. I should also qualify that I built this as macro-size racers, not freestlyle quads. They are fun, but don't get nearly as much airtime as my 5" racers.

[@baggszilla]

Dude that trick at 5:45 when you spun and went backwards thu the trees UNBELIEVABLE!

[@sharma_harsh]

Search it.. It's called "moonwalk"

[@JohnDStrand]

So, now that everyone has gone as small as they could, we are seeing the pendulum swing back to the big quads that were around 6 or 7 years ago? Why oh why can't I win the lottery to keep up with all youse guys!

[@Twizztify]

Heck yes! You guys just received my hd-1 today to get the X-r7 makeover! Can’t wait to get it back!

[@emmettsewell]

some of the music in this video brought me back to the old rr

[@fredraketfpv]

Joshua Bardwell is gone be so happy after seeing these drift shots 😜😂

[@schmutztimo8952]

Haha😂👏

[@pleiadianpilot5076]

JB drifts?

[@wynnfpv]

I can fly 5in for around 4-5 minutes on a 1300mah 5s around that same speed. Looks like it would be a perfect rig for chase footage, getting the props out of view and getting around 7min flight!

[@Perforator2000]

I've been flying 6 inch low Kv 4S a lot and have been loving it.

[@ChrisParayno]

What size batteries?

[@Perforator2000]

@@ChrisParayno 2000 mAh.

[@philablasta]

I freestyle my Project399 practice rig almost exclusively now. Love that tank!

[@Dad_K]

If Drew gets any nastier with the flow, these videos will be rated X

[@jlarson42]

Great video. 7" kwads rock. I'm running inav on mine. It's so smooth and quiet but it can scream when I want it to . Happy flying. 🤓

[@simonfpv5280]

he has the most relaxing voice i‘ve ever heard

[@jrock7859]

[@serkoner1]

Relaxxxxxx my brother 😁

[@sirBumpyCase]

Word

[@biscuitsforbreakfast460]

Lol idk I used to fall asleep to the angry video game nerd all the time. Pretty relaxing

[@oneleft163]

Yeah Drew cool flight👍

[@ThrunRC]

Great video guys , the car chase was awesome :-)

[@alpinist3178]

HI ROTOR RIOT!! LOVE FROM INDIA!!!

[@flowstate_link]

And NZ!

[@dhaninugraha]

I've been freestyling a 7" build (Source One frame, T-Motor F80 2408 1900KV motors, HQ 7x4.5 biblades, running on 6S) since early this year. Don't think I could ever go back to 5". The sheer ease of clearing obstacles and the LOUD biblades are just too addictive :) FWIW, they're not that difficult at all to tune, thanks to Bardwell and UAV Tech's tuning tips. The quad runs Betaflight 4.1.6 and I followed Bardwell's RPM filtering (including having both filter sliders all the way to 2x), set I term relax to 10, disabled D min, PID master slider at 1.3, PD gain and PD balance at 1.1, stick response gain at 0.9. My rates are around 700 deg/s with a bit of expo. Super fast and nimble even with a GoPro -- you could even fly it *almost* like a race quad if you want to, it hardly struggles on sudden changes in direction (eg. 180 deg turns), veeeery little if no propwash, and motors stay relatively cool after 2-3 minutes of tooling around :)

[@justinmedina2050]

Awesome project, it os decided, thats gonna be my next Kwad🙌🔥🔥🔥

[@stevensbox9625]

Damn it! I'm ordering one. Don't tell the wife.

[@colebtl]

So basically it's a dedicated long range setup but with some higher kv motors to keep the throttle down i guess. I doubt it's gonna handle constant full throttle punches well but that's not the point of a cruiser anyways so it should be a good cruising around rig.

[@gmivisualsjason3729]

My first ever 5 inch build had 2408 motors 4s 2200mah. 13 mins I used to get! Yes I would suck the amps but with a throttle limit it was all round fantastic!

[@danielskoog5565]

My first big FPV platform is a 7" Tyro129. I'm running 4s 2200 Mah batteries through it with 1700kv motors and 7056 props. I can easily get 10+ minute flight times while chasing RC planes and messing around, landing with battery voltage at 3.5-3.7 V per cell while hovering.

[@The0nionKnight]

I think 6" is the perfect sweet spot. Tmotor F60 Pro IV with Ethix K2 props is the nicest combo I"ve ever flown.

[@patregan]

I've been using 6" frames for my freestyle builds for years. I rarely fly anything bigger than a 5" prop, but having the option is nice, and I've always figured that having a slightly wider platform should be a bit more stable anyway. The big deal here is that you're increasing the area of the prop without significantly increasing the weight of the quad. A 7" prop has double the surface area of a 5" prop. A 6" prop has nearly 50% more surface area. Your 7" isn't twice as heavy as a 5" freestyle build, and that's fantastic. There's an cheap option for anyone who wants a taste of this. I've been able to squeeze 5.5" props onto several different 5" frames. The blades are only 0.25" longer, but the surface area is still 25% larger than a 5". The HQ 5.5x3.5x3 is a pretty good freestyle prop. You still get a lot of that 6" bite and some of the efficiency, but you don't give up all of that 5" feel.

[@robertkempf471]

This is awesome! great job, i feel like you are pushing the bounds on innovation. thank you for showing me what is possible!

[@checkm8606]

Drew I really liked the intro of yours!:D

[@userunknown2771]

Oh boy, these flying skills are insane. Orbiting inverted is just crazy.

[@r00kiet80]

Thats a trippy spin if u learn it in the sim its no that impressive anymore

[@nexxtfilm]

soo cool! great work. Im flying since 1 week now IRL and my next drone will be a long range frame for sure :)

[@untamedfpv]

Yea 7inch cruise fast I've been flying a 7inch for over a year now and love it for filming and the flight time 👌

[@93JB93]

When will you all do a country wide tour? Of every state capitol with awesome freestyle footage. You can build it up to a year event! Meet pilots from all over the country and make GOOD CONNECTIONS!

[@Mr18031967]

when your first learning to fly in the googles 3to 5 mins is a long time you need a rest for a few mins so i found changeing packs was ok also time to take in what youve done but now the longer the better great vid guys

[@r00kiet80]

Jeah for freestyle 5inch is perfect but if u use ur drone for proffesional work 7inch is the dream

[@wlknier]

that reverse matty into the tree crash - perfect

[@CarbonGlassMan]

What is a good discharge rating for a 7 inch? My 5 inch batteries are 100c - 120c. Larger batteries like 3200 and 400mah are listed as 60c. Is 60c enough for chasing and minor freestyle? I'm flying a Mr. Croc frame with Emax 2807 motors at 1500kv. DJI video, Racerstar 45a F7 stack with 915mhz ELRS. Flies great with 1550mah 4s and 7" or 6" props.

[@giantfpv9862]

Open Source FR7 has got all my 7” needs, and we typically fly larger motors/batteries (2808 and 5500 5S)

[@dagazenterprise]

Im running smaller motors 2306 1800kv bh with 5000 5s and easily get 17+ minutes on my Pirat 7”

[@giantfpv9862]

@@dagazenterprise I really don’t care about flight time, unless paired with speed/distance. There’s people who pair small motors and big packs for max efficiency, and HS/RS has made this doable for some... I’d fly a session 5 with no stabilization at 60-70mph and those small motors 2208/2306 just couldn’t hang to bring smooth footage. 2408.5 and larger were necessary for smooth session video.

[@dagazenterprise]

@@giantfpv9862 good to know, it makes a lot more sense with the bigger motors. Ive had similar issues that you speak of but until recently didn’t relate it to the motor size. Time for an upgrade.

[@hateeternalmaver]

Well, I hope it can... Let's find out. Thanks RR guys.

[@flaparoundfpv8632]

Holding those lines through some tight spots, Drew.

[@ralphbronzin9721]

Awesome video! Makes me feel a bit better owning only a 6er. No more being the outcast XD

[@AirJourdanFPV]

What about a build like this but with 6" props? Would that give an advantage in having more control over the quad?

[@jappiemoto]

He is such a good pilot

[@kookkevin]

Will you release a kit to make the hd1 into this 7inch version? Or do I need to buy a whole new frame?

[@showalterfamilylights]

Oh man, 2306 on a 7"? Sounds like it would be waaay too underpowered. I went from 2408.5 to 2810 to 2808.

[@tehllama42]

You did it right

[@impmeister1]

Great....! Now I need a 7inch in my collection...

[@BubbsMalone]

Sounds like you found the sweet spot on those props and batteries...

[@BubbyFPV]

Hey i know that tree spot!

[@daich]

i just like that ls400 luxury 4 door sedan drift beast

[@evil.artist_lnj]

The GoPro is shifting exposure too much 🙄 Also waiting for SkyLinier XR. Also waiting for RotorRiot to come with a drone with GPS.

[@jrock7859]

skyeliner xr - very soon gps - available as option now, going to add officially to site soon. reach out at support@rotorriot and we can set up a GPS for you

[@_ShaDynasty]

these bigger quads are definitely sweet, but they crash much harder. ive been ripping around with my 3in 6s armattan geckos for a while now, they are bulletproof.

[@ronnyrengkung7894]

Rotor Riot don't have any plan to make deadcat arm style for 5'.... for avoid the prop... (7' to big for me.) I have one Frame HD1.... happy if i can just changes the arm to make deadcat style ... :-) Thanks.

[@whitefrog2]

I love my 7" more than any of my other 3" to 5" drones. I have 2408.5 1300kv motors and 3300 6S batteries. I've had a 15 minute flight, but freestyle usually gets me 6 or 7 minutes.

[@Vousie]

I mean, I've got a flight where I started at ~3.8v/cell (had done another flight beforehand) and then got 13 mins out of it.

[@wilgarcia1]

I'm surprised more people don't fly Li-Ion.

[@peterzingler6221]

That's because you need to know what you are doing. A 300 gr 3s2p only has 60 to 70 Amp discharge and full throttle will kill it even at half throttle

[@wilgarcia1]

@@peterzingler6221 We are not all interested in racing. I'm barely ever at full throttle =)

[@patryk4389]

@@wilgarcia1 If you are into freestyle then coming out of a dive can pull (at least in my case) up to 138amps

[@ClaraCl2005]

@Patryk Wojtkielewicz damn man I don't think I've even pulled that much when racing.

[@dividingbyzerofpv6748]

@@peterzingler6221 there is another side to that coin. Total watts needed to fly, drive down the amps required by pushing the voltage up. My 6s2p Lithium Ion 7inch cruises at 15-18 amps and I have no problems doing casual freeroaming/cinematic kinds of freestyle. Hitting 23 minutes flying on 5600-6000mah 6s2p landing at 3v per cell. Having a 3s or 4s drone doesnt make any sense unless there is very good reason to handicap yourself to that voltage. Boost the voltage if possible and your amps will go down if you are careful with motor/prop selection. Only with the small drones do you really wind up having to be stuck with like a 3s pack. But even my 3.5in on 3s can get some pretty good cruising/diving. I do all my crasy shit at the top half of the pack when voltage is at 3.8v or higher then settle down for the rest of the pack from 3.6 to 3v. As for flying like a jack ass, my 10inch flys really damn well on 6s2p LithiumIon. 9 minutes flight time landing at 3.6v doing shit like big lazy matty flips(20-30deg uptilt). 3115 640kv Tornados are magic. May try 8s2p on it soon. But yeah, people need to know their limits and get a scientific method developed for figuring out how to fly within the limits of a 18650. My Xclass is running 6s4p and soon 8s4p.

[@bwasfpv]

thats a cruiserrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!love it

[@davidspivey3582]

Quads are comming up bro!!! I have analog and dji i love the game. Its not about the system its about the flying. Now i have to figure out if i want a 7" or the geprc phantom. I just hope its my last quad. Rotor riot crew, and the old crew, Justin Davis, Andy RC, UAV Futures, Joshua B and many more are doing great just keep it going. If more people knew more would fly. Go to Comic-con and put on an air show or something. Put fpv dead center on the map

[@ryanj2106]

7” Source One, 2507 1850KV BH Avengers, GS 35 ESCs, and a Heliosprong FC. 5000MAh pack gives me 15+ minutes cruising and can still throw on a 1300Mah and hit 110MPH and freestyle like a 5”. Been flying it for over a year. Where ya been RR? 7” is old news!

[@3hockeybros]

I'm curious what voltage you come down at for the 15 min cruise. I have a similar setup (4s with the 5000mah I assume?) for going up and down mountains, but I only get at most 9 min flights, which limits exploration. Everyone seems to be getting 10+ pretty easily even on less capacity, so I'm starting to wonder if I'm babying my batteries too much.

[@ryanj2106]

3hockeybros I’m running 6S 5000Mah. At 13-15 minutes depending on how hard I fly, I can land and the battery will level out right around 3.5V per cell. I also run 4S but I don’t have any large capacity 4S batteries.

[@3hockeybros]

@@ryanj2106 Hmmm okay, I should probably push my batteries harder. Usually mine are about 3.75 resting. Of course, I do like to play it safe when in irretrievable long range areas. But dang, a 5000 6s is a big heavy battery!

[@ryanj2106]

3hockeybros Yeah, it’s the heaviest I’ll run. The quad still flies good...I have to remember not to fly too crazy and risk chucking that big battery out of the straps mid flight. It flies a little smoother on 4S but isn’t nearly as ballsy! 6S earns its name Rage Monster!

[@SuprDlux]

7" Club FTW!

[@DavidOwensuk]

Cool kwad - So do the big batteries cost twice as much?

[@detroxx56784]

Somehow I once managed to fly for ~12-13 Minutes on a 4S 1500mAh CNHL Black Series. It was not dead afterwards. Admittedly it was just some mild cruising and no flips or tricks. Just some parcours around bushes and trees. I have no clue as to how it lasted this long.

[@urlawyer]

Considering that this will likely be used for long range, including a GPS (with a 3D printed mount) at least as an option for the kit or the BNF/RTF would probably be useful. Sure, anyone who knows what they’re doing can add one, but still, as an option it would be nice.

[@jaredallen8054]

I’m a beginner flyer I have a 5 inch with 2507 1800 kv (overkill I know) and I’m reaching almost 10 minute flight times. That’s with occasional flips. I know have 2207 on that drone and get even longer flight times I’m currently building a 7” that will run 2807 1700 kv motors on 6s with parallel 1800 mah packs (3600 mah total) can’t wait to see what flight time I get on that.

[@tre3tucker]

Nice of you to let Vortex out of the warehouse to come fly with you. 😂

[@VuMittoMegaAntFPV]

what is motor size you used in this clip, thank bro

[@ramsy2246]

is this frame good for a beginner? I love this style

[@flyingeyefpv]

@Rotor Riot Hey guys I’m getting mine in the mail tomorrow, I’m super stoked but I went with the 2306 instead of the 2806.5. I noticed a lot of comments (after ordering) that the bigger motor is better for freestyling… can you make me feel better about having gone with the 2306? Any upsides?

[@propwashfpv7063]

Man I get a lot of wobbles with 7 inch on 2306. I always thought it was just that these motors are too small for the props but it seemed to do alright here. Maybe I need to recheck my tune?

[@BlutoFPV]

I built a 7in over a year ago and haven't hardly touched my 5inchers since. I fly a lot of mountains so I get less flight time because of the climb up the mountain.

[@christopherconkright1317]

Gave me an ideal kinda like car derby do drone derby last one standing like the fix wing tag kinda thing could even put a punching glove on the fronts and play derby

[@maldimedia5938]

What’s the fastest this drone can go ? With What motors and battery? I’m trying to keep up at drag races! Thanks!

[@frankpayne6902]

To everyone saying it should have bigger motors, why? Honest question - what do you expect to achieve? Longer flight times, more power, both?

[@marianflaig4469]

I think you get more control over the prop with a wider motor and these weird wabbles aren't as strong as on a smaller motor.

[@lucasceleste4743]

Merry Christmas guys

[@cyril0bw]

The gaps that you hit tho 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@ChrisParayno]

Did they recommend tiny 2306's?!

[@bombsquadfpv3217]

That Thing Looks Beast !!!!😎💯👌

[@decent_gamers652]

Will there be switches already set-up for arm/acro/stable or will we need to program those ourselves?

[@allanfolkes6019]

Hi ordering a cl1 xr trew a friend wanted the hd1 xr but it's out of stock but wondering why cl1 xr has no antenna holder and I wanted to do a GPS on it do you have something that will hold antenna immortal t and vtx as well as GPS mount tha would be kool I'd of had something.

[@sunoncream1118]

Looking for running on 6s 5000 mah.. with 45c or more turnigy battery. Wath motor seize and frame is adapted to that? Da goal is to have Same battery for every rc I will own. Rc boat. Rc car 3s or 6s 5000 drone as 6s 5amph

[@armando.visuals]

Can you do building drops maneuvers with a 7inch? Or is it to heavy?

[@piehandsbigadventure3557]

Haven't watched the video, but I can tell you the answer. Yes, 7inch can rip hard. Even with 4s.

[@mike94560]

I think I could strap a car battery to my 7 inch and it would still fly. Lots of lift. I use 6S 1500 and 1800mAh batteries. Long flight times. I would say a 7inch seems to float more than a 5 inch. You flip it inverted and it seems to sort of hang there forever . It is nice to have one for when I am in my 7 inch mood. LOL

[@brucedoyle4055]

Whats the weight of this thing? Can i order it this in a 5-6 inch frame?

[@Fantazy]

That guy has an amazing voice oO !

[@brianr0858]

What are the lights on the side of the dji v2 goggles for?

[@dario.widmer]

Can you do a Tutorial hot to tune a Deadcat quad? 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻♥️

[@rebindfpv800]

Lol those motors are hilarious for 7in

[@VoidTroopiez]

Was there a string on the right drone at 10:30?

[@Niloc33567]

Nice quad guys 7"

[@schmutztimo8952]

Well for a 7" thats not a lot of flighttime. Try some 20A 18650 cells to make a 4s 2p pack so you have a 7000mah pack. I flew for 35min with a 7" and such a pack.

[@rambozo_fpv176]

Crud. Now I want one. 😂

[@BuddsSkyCam]

what stack is being used?

[@lunisfpv9086]

Hey guys I have a question. Do you have any tips for me about chasing cause if I chase for example a car it get out of frame in my gopro footage cause the gopro is mounted over the fpv camera?

[@changeagent228]

Most 7" have a ton of vibration compared to 5". Video stabilisation has smoothed out this video. Another issue with 7" is the props break often when you use high kv motors and freestyle hard. In my opinion 7" is best for long range efficient slow cruising.

[@dividingbyzerofpv6748]

It's two things contributing to that, small motors and too light of quad weight that causes the props load and unload. Throw a big battery on there and watch it dampen out with the weight thanks to prop speed increasing to get off the ground. I have several examples where I increased my footage playback speed 150-200% looking for bobbles and could not find any. Total AUW is 1350g for a 7in with a 6000mah 6s2p LIIon and 2806.3 1300kv BrotherHobby motors. Drone will cruise at 40mph for 23minutes at 15-18amps smooth as can be. Versus past experiments which were 7in builds with 2306 1600kv motors that were only running 1800mah 4s packs. Wobble city in even the most smooth wind conditions.

[@changeagent228]

@@dividingbyzerofpv6748 1300kg yes I bet that dampens it somewhat. Most my 7" quads I tested with freestyle were in the AUW 500g to 700g range with a single 200g battery. I tried 6s 2306 1600kv, 4s 2206 1450kv, 4s 2206 2300kv and 6s 2306.5 1700kv motors. I did try some heavier triple and double battery configs and yes the overall shaking reduced but then it felt heavy for freestyle and became a better cruiser. I have always preferred a floaty twitchy feel versus heavy for freestyle. Next I'm going to try 2408.5, 2806.5 and 2508. Agreed I love the long cruises. 😄👍

[@dividingbyzerofpv6748]

@@changeagent228 way too light. My 7in is around 1350g AUW with a 6s2p LiIon and a Hero 7 and you are right it isnt a "twitchy" build. Buuuuut you might check out my recent video on my 10inch... on an 1800mah 6s it is a MattyFlipping son of a bitch. Also flys really well on 6s2p LiIon. Try going heavier on your 7in and just realize flying it hard is a bit different prospect. Choose a style where momentum works for you. I was too light for a long time til JET told me to just chuck a 4000+mah LiPo on and have at it. Yup it dampened right out and I had my first 12+ minute flight landing at 3.8v per cell. Bigger quads I am no longer afraid to weigh them down.

[@changeagent228]

@@dividingbyzerofpv6748 Yeah I get 13 mins on my 2306.5 5" GF51466 + DJI AU with a 1800mAh 6s cruising long range at 65kph. On my next 7" build which I will use only for uber long flight time cruising I was planning a large battery of 400g minimum perhaps as much as 600g and have a 6s 7000mAh. I wondered about 8" 10" and bigger but I think I will stick to 7" first and see how I do. I like the look of those zohd lion packs but will probably just spot weld my own. Will probably make do with a lipo first till I have tested it thoroughly though. Tesla motors announced their new higher discharge amperage, slightly higher density cells recently and I'm interested in seeing if I can source some of those to build a pack when they release soon. Which lion cells are you using?

[@fliegendeuntertasse9472]

@@changeagent228 i could recommend you 21700 cells 30% more Capacity to Weight compared to 18650 cells And higher discharge currents I use Molicel INR21700 P42A 4000mah 6s1p config Max Discharge 45A Peak 70 I get around 20min of fast flight on my 7“ long range drone with Racerstar AirA 2806 1300kv (they are designed by tmotor and until now i‘m really happy with them) Battery weight 556g Drone total 1070g

[@WX4CB]

what's the current draw?

[@skibaa1]

I built my first 5" Xilo JB edition and I fly over 7 minutes on 1500 4s and land with over 3.7v/cell. Have recordings from my googles. Granted, I don't mount Go pro and am only learning to fly, so just cruising, shooting gaps and doing some rolls, but anyway I land because I want to rest, not because the battery is empty.

[@wiebel1991]

The gopro will affect the flight time a lot.

[@monkeywizard77]

Where in FL are you guys at?

[@tehllama42]

PSA, please run larger motors if you intend on run 7" as the dedicates use case. Sincerely - one of the people who will happily help you tune out the wobbles that show up because of small motors

[@mattwilson1305]

7 inch CAN freestyle. Just got back from ripping balls on my GEPRC Mk 4 with 7040 props. 6s 1880 kv motors oh yea, monster