Can a MacBook Replace Your Gaming PC?

Pfftt, who needs a PC, am I right lads? I'm kidding but also Apple's latest Game Porting Toolkit is looking promising!
Huge shout out to ‪@Andytizer‬ and all his work and education that makes stuff like this possible. Check out his channel and www.applegamingwiki.com for everything you need to know about the Game Porting Toolkit. Love your videos bro!
Also you could potentially skip all this work by checking out Codeweavers new version of Crossover but this was a bit of fun none the less!
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[@coolbeanschannel]

The worst part is, Apple could be competitive in the gaming space if they felt like putting some real effort in

[@galaxy4dayz]

how is that bad??? its good for apple.

[@coolbeanschannel]

⁠​⁠@@galaxy4dayzIt’s mostly them locking devs to use their proprietary Metal graphics API, not having a cohesive or straightforward option for acquiring games where every game is either a standalone application or has its own launcher (this might be fixed if a large majority of Steam games are given compatibility layer support), and Apple not really putting the effort courting publishers or giving them any incentive to bring any substantial games to their platform.

[@zacharystaines]

Hoping this is the start of them giving it a red hot go!

[@coolbeanschannel]

@@zacharystaines Me too. Considering they've run out of options to substantially increase their share in the PC market, it looks like they have no choice!

[@abul1]

Yep, theyre only doing it for their VR tech. Wouldnt touch gaming with a stick.

[@spongeboss_richpants]

I think desktop pcs and gaming laptops will always be better for gaming than macbooks but if mac os gets some more compatibility it could be a good choice for games

[@spacecheesewizard9067]

It is one of those things that you shouldn't buy to game but should be able to play games if you chose to.

[@spongeboss_richpants]

@@spacecheesewizard9067 yes

[@Theunicorn2012]

I think desktop pcs and gaming laptops will always be better for gaming than macbooks but if mac os gets some more compatibility it could be a good choice for games

[@spongeboss_richpants]

@@Theunicorn2012 why did you copy my comment???

[@dotnerdmyad]

obviously. Mac can only give you a good time pass. And I want it to be most compatible than rest of the competitions ( it's okay for me not to be excellent )

[@heidannazakami6288]

If Apple Mac and Steam decide to collab, world of gaming would be very interesting

[@caliwator]

I mean you can run steam native in macOS the problem is that there is barely any games supported natively in macOS. But with the new steam deck running Linux it shouldn’t be that hard to create support for macOS as well.

[@lolomo5787]

Apple changed the licensing with their GPTK which is why crossover made it easy to implement with the latest update. With the latest changes in GPTK licensing I think valve can use this to implement it to their launcher similar to Proton is to Linux.

[@GodRockCafe]

Interesting to watch this after last night's Apple event for the M3, which seems to be Apple pushing more towards gaming

[@evacody1249]

Ray tracing is not pushing towards gaming.

[@12349370]

@@evacody1249they specifically mentioned gaming, so yeah

[@johnatkinson1111]

I think apple has realized they've captured the casual/business market as much as they can so they're putting more focus on a lucrative market (ie gaming). There are plenty of gamers that would completely replace their computers for some minor spec increases where as casual/business consumers are going to be slower to upgrade.

[@Atais_UKBM]

@@johnatkinson1111they could quite easy tap into the more general side of the console market, i.e. people who only stream and play a few games here and there and don’t mind only replacing every few years, even more easily if they reintroduce the hdmi port

[@johnatkinson1111]

@@Atais_UKBM the MacBook Pro's have a hdmi port, they got it back with the 2021 MacBook Pro. The MacBook Air and iMac are the only Macs without a hdmi port and the iMac you'd likely be using the main screen as its a desktop computer. The previous 13" MacBook Pro's that used the older MacBook design didn't have a hdmi port but those were discontinued. All mac's can also be hooked up to external displayed from the usb-c ports so MacBook Air users do have external display support if they get a hdmi adapter.

[@evo.21559]

You have to agree with me, console wars, MacBooks, play store games. As long as you have steam, windows PC will ALWAYS be the best

[@kirekocev2587]

For gaming. For anything else i personally prefer Mac

[@fdfurlan]

What's the name of the app used to show FPS, temperature, and other information about the computer on screen?

[@Havixlol]

I have been loving all of your videos! You are doing such an AMAZING JOB brother!

[@zacharystaines]

Appreciate the hype lad! Still learning but we’ll get there 💪

[@Xx_DoreamonGamerYT_Xx]

​​@@zacharystainesplay roblox on 14 years old iphone pls reply

[@fvc.videos]

yep

[@itsyoboibee1529]

Love to see your channel grow dude!! Cant wait to see what you have in store for us next

[@zacharystaines]

Yo I appreciate that lad! Working hard on some new videos so thanks for sticking around!

[@Theunicorn2012]

Love to see your channel grow dude!! Cant wait to see what you have in store for us next

[@Tarkov_addict]

The biggest problem is is that if you want to play anything demanding or if you like game modding then dudu hits the fan.

[@fluffyfetlocks]

And cyberpunk isn’t demanding?

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

​@fluffyfetlocks the mac costs much more than a cheap pc or laptop dollars yet runs lower than 1080p at lower settings

[@Jabaliblanco]

An excellent and very clarifying video. Thank you so much!

[@RandomPiano704]

WOW you started very small but already have grown to 70k+ keep this up and get to 100k subs !

[@zacharystaines]

Thanks lad!! We trying 😂🤠

[@rossbeauchamp8851]

Hey Zach!!!! Love ya work man, but as a PC user I'm just sitting back and laughing. Way too much effort LOL.

[@zacharystaines]

Hahaha yeah I think that’s the moral of the story right now 😆

[@ajarmuzzle]

They are actually hurting their sales, If I can use bootcamp on the new m1 macs I would buy it immediately

[@RockChampEnglish]

so... now you can run any pc game using the steam u installed? Am I right?

[@adriandabrowski4990]

why apple gotta make everything complicated

[@Piipperi800]

what a timing for a video, CrossOver just released a version with GPTK, making it way easier to do this

[@zacharystaines]

Bro for real! Bad timing got me again 😂

[@Theunicorn2012]

what a timing for a video, CrossOver just released a version with GPTK, making it way easier to do this

[@AnonymousBoss1]

So you mean, if I get a MacBook I just download the GPTK and I can play Halo Infinite??

[@christopherpol112]

I’m not sure if plugging it in actually makes a difference? I don’t think the TDP of the processor changes on battery, unlike windows laptops which have worse performance per watt

[@luxurybuzz3681]

The biggest problem is that a single game takes up like 50-100GB of storage.

[@Insentity]

That’s the problem is legit every platform you use, no matter windows, Mac or even console

[@somnambulist6636]

In windows it doesn't matter that much , storage is dirt cheap in windows side​@@Insentity

[@shibusunil1843]

can use ssd to store and play games ? idk if it will work lmk

[@mitchell10394]

@@shibusunil1843 yes - this is fine haha.

[@swerveanimationstudios]

Apple could make the next big console and really knock it out of the park man. It’s fucking crazy

[@pawelzabicki7785]

I wonder how would it run on a M1 Pro, but not a max version.

[@sumergunay8349]

top tier editing, underrated channel.

[@PixelLabsX]

I’m currently running GTA V on my 8 year old MacBook Pro and enjoying it, I don’t have a gaming PC, but I indeed proved to myself that gaming on a Mac is possible, CS2, GTA V, GTA IV, Minecraft, and so much more, it’s so cool!

[@Theolpi]

Prueba Cyberpunk 2077, Horizon Forbiddern West y el FIFA 24, si te corre estos juegos creo es una excelente máquina.

[@luisfernando55]

Hi, are you going to play Resident Evil Village? it would come directly to Mac end of October, thanks

[@seanfrancis7101]

I defiantly would have subscribed had you dropped some links, I can't find this stuff anywhere

[@uglyducklingfinance2023]

That is incredible. It looked sooo good!

[@zacharystaines]

I’m still pretty dang stoked on it man! Can’t wait to see it get better!

[@uglyducklingfinance2023]

@@zacharystaines For real! I haven't had a mac in years but to see how fast they are now and what they are able to do is crazy!

[@kimireginbale1727]

When you talk about homebrew at 3:25, you said that you should have done more research about the terminal codes. What do you mean by that? I don't understand

[@kiattim2100]

Because he is putting code he found online, and run it on his mac, which could literally be Virus or spy wares stealing his data.

[@Shiftin34]

i dont get it steam steam available on mac os

[@meandyou537]

Perhaps Apple should launch a console that share the core of the newest Apple Silicon Macs, in collaboration with big gaming companies. This way, not only there will be a new powerful console out there, but that will also make it finally possible (and viable) for devs to port the Apple Console games to Mac, cuz obviously it's gonna be dumb easy.

[@Moesuito]

Man, macOS Sonoma is really good! I'm playing a PS2 emulator (AetherSX2) on my MB Air M1 8 GB in 4K60, running Gran Turismo 4 very well, I'm impressed, as it's running on Metal API, which is not supported on the Ventura. All this on battery without losing FPS. (Yes, it's still pretty hot, but not that hot.)

[@aribuwu]

Broo Gran Turismo 4 is my childhood:”(

[@N8_THN]

I'd say Apple could totally make their own game console using their in house Silicon but I think they're still shaken up by the Pippin :p I think that Mac's are more work focused than gaming anyway which isn't necessarily a bad thing

[@Theunicorn2012]

I'd say Apple could totally make their own game console using their in house Silicon but I think they're still shaken up by the Pippin :p I think that Mac's are more work focused than gaming anyway which isn't necessarily a bad thing

[@SC-yx3qd]

Making a console with Apple silicon wouldn’t work as most AAA games are built on x86 and not the arm architecture the M chips use, so unless more developers make compatible games or Apple design x86 chips (highly unlikely) it wouldn’t work

[@-Burb]

@@SC-yx3qd I mean the PS3 existed and that wasn’t x86. The Switch exists as well and uses ARM. The issue I think Apple would have is convincing people why they should get this brand new console when other bigger established consoles like Xbox and PlayStation already have things like game exclusives.

[@TrueReaperking]

Have you tried Xbox game pass on a MacBook cause I have no issues with my MacBook or iPad pro

[@a-terrible-fate532]

I've switched to an iPhone now, and will probably get an iPad Air sometime for my media use at night as I lounge in bed and watch shows. But I don't know if I could switch my gaming PC to an Apple computer. I use my Windows PC as a general multimedia and gaming system and I can play everything on it. At the same time, I'd love to have the inter compatibility between my phone and my computer that Apple computers have between iPhone and Apple computers.

[@GamerAgentYT]

I'm a student I'm going to build a budget pc will play only valorant on it and I have a laptop with i3 8th gen and might want a new laptop which one should I get macbook air m2 15", m1 max or a cheaper windows laptop which I can carry plus do good gaming along with decent battery

[@prizixz]

The thing that impress me the most with appels new m1 and m2 processors its fanless have absolute 0 fans in that tin can pc and its hella impressive prop to Appel for being so unique! Sadly the prices are steep but it can be worth it for some people and new aaa games is coming to both iphone 15 pro and ipads with m1 m2 apus wich is awsome.

[@Mater-code]

bro flexed disney land

[@sum1sumthin492]

Can you do using ipod as your everyday phone?

[@VisionProGamingGuy]

video edited so well lol. good job

[@zacharystaines]

Thanks a ton bro! Appreciate ya being here 🫡

[@VisionProGamingGuy]

man can't get over how good your videos are. Totally going to analyze and learn from your vids! also saw you worked at Apple also before. Did you ever get any grief for posting about work experience there? I have some people asking me to share my experience also but I'm scared haha. @@zacharystaines

[@affenwerk5598]

"you potato! " 😂🥔 greetings from potato to potato! 😁 Very cool, exactly what I was looking for 😎👍🏻

[@leafypIayz]

bro this will change my life as a youtuber thank you 😁

[@zacharystaines]

Hahaha you're welcome bro 🫡

[@xxdeadxangelx6150]

can falout new vegas run on the oldest mac?

[@LaymanGamin]

😂 😂 😂

[@kaitheguy2006]

Im excited for this video!!!

[@SetssonIVI]

been playing crusader kings, cuphead, rust ,and sims 4 on my m1 mac.

[@tomsweepwinguser8233]

The point is "Heat accumulation", psu screaming there soon ...

[@daltonlutat]

This got recommended to me fresh out of the oven

[@RandomPiano704]

m excited for this video!!!

[@daniels5607]

not bad as a pc gamer very good but think you where very genrouse on the stars for mac like i feel 2 stars for the getting ready to play games dose not matter if most peoplewill not do it just it took you an hour and you gave 4 stars but apart from that i shocked how good it is i want to see how the ipad pro plays games

[@RazielMessiah]

I'm surprised how such a big company like Apple fails to see the potential impact they could have in the gaming market...

[@movlog8334]

but...is macOS 14 support MacBook Pro 2017

[@JoshuaEpperson69]

It can after that new crossover update 5 days ago. My m2 max slaps new games around with ease while dealing with dx12 on the fly very well. I’d say it beats a gtx 1080

[@dantecorbett2221]

So It's confirmed using dx12 works now?

[@staa7731]

⁠@@davonstew480since it isnt native performance, unfortunately it gets downgraded to gtx 1080 performance. If ran native then it would give out performance equal to an rtx 3060 probably

[@leaphardotnet]

GPU power of mid range 2017 GPU ! What a bargain! Meanwhile an rtx 3060 beat M2 ultra GPU in blender!

[@AnonymousBoss1]

​@@leaphardotnetNow the new M3 Max will beat the m2 Max Easily!! 💯👍🏽

[@evacody1249]

Gtx 1080? 😂😂😂 so a GzpU that came out in 2016. Yeah that yeah.

[@malibumotions]

bro good job but i easily run BF4 on my 2022 M2 Macbook 8/512 via Crossover v24 and it runs completely OK (i play multiplayer only) i think Apple's GPTK is already IN Crossover cause GPTK completely free and in Crossover you can run games via MetalFX (how does Steam Deck i guess)

[@dotnerdmyad]

As a casual gamer I want apple to be least this much generous to give us proper 60 fps gaming. I don't care much above 60fps that much tbh because higher graphics usually don't have much fps and apple can give us graphics. I hope 😑

[@AidenSmj]

Why wait for apple id u can build a PC or buy a gaming laptop?

[@gameleon_pl7809]

watched that, and day is better

[@zacharystaines]

Yo have an even better day tomorrow lad!

[@gametime2473]

For the cost of the upgraded SSD in a mac big enough to actually have games on it, you can build a PC that smokes it.

[@Mr10usdad]

In two years when I want to upgrade my video card and put a new one in I can do that on a PC. On the Mac I have to buy a new computer.

[@JOESTAR11]

good recommendation from KZbin

[@mimillie]

It would be nice if Apple would be "Honest" for once and say clearly that they took WINE (An opensource software) that does all the translations of Windows Calls to Apple... Cause what they say is : "Ho we all made it our self we are better..."... But in reality that's WINE behind the scene and no one would know about the hard work they made... Sadly :(

[@zacharystaines]

Ayeeee I’m with ya! Those guys have been working hard for years but it’s great to see Apple working with them!

[@christopherpol112]

They absolutely made the DX12 to Metal translation layer themselves. It does not exist in WINE or Crossover.

[@mimillie]

@christopherpol112 Maybe they did that (although they may have based it on VKD3D... but I dont know about that) but all Windows translations (so the big part of that thing) ARE from WINE. And you can definitely see when you use it that the dialog has the same design as wine dialog. So for me that's almost a steal of a work that they haven't made and that they won't contribute or even credit properly... (Cause yes they use it but dx to metal is proprietary and that's the only thing they have done + Rosetta if you really want to add it.) For a comparison: it's like I take an paint you made, add a semi transparent line on it and hide credits behind the painting while it's exposed in a museum that bring me money... And you can already tell that NOONE will turn the painting in a museum.

[@AndroidFerret]

Can the apple run anticheat games

[@AndroidFerret]

Also .. Needs 9 hours to install ..4 stars .. That got me !! Love this

[@alipathan495]

Hello I really love your channel and I have a video suggestion with your iPhone 3GS can you make a video on how to make the phone 100 percent usable like not just Minecraft I want to download instagram Facebook all apps

[@zacharystaines]

Yo love this suggestion! I'm working on a video just like this 🫡

[@Gearsandco]

If I can play all my steam and Bettle net games on mac at high refresh rate 1440p, I will ditch my PC!

[@Frygisk]

Blizzard/activision have completely abandoned mac at this point.

[@topaxx101]

ARM is just a beast platform,

[@zacharystaines]

Still under utilised but can’t wait to see it grow!

[@raymondm.3748]

2:31 is bro at six flags?!

[@nzanzar4384]

can,t samsung tab e run mincraft

[@silly8592]

Nice Video!

[@carlchapman2962]

I feel like this is somewhat misleading. While it's "neat" that you can kinda game on a Mac (and it's getting better), your average Mac user isn't running a Max chip - but it's the extra GPU cores in the Max chip that's doing all the heavy lifting here and allowing this kind of performance - which is mediocre at best. Meaning you can't really say "this is me gaming on my M1 Mac" - you're gaming on an M1 MAX - which has FAR more GPU cores (like ~2x Pro and ~4x base) than your typical base and Pro variants that most people have. You also paid A LOT more for that Max-equipped Mac than a typical gamer would for their gaming PC. It's not an Apples to Apples comparison (pun intended).

[@duc_ke]

Tried a 2011 iMac to play GTA… didnt end well!

[@gooberboy69420]

Run windows on iMac 😢

[@prodgrysz]

my mac can’t handle large music production tasks building s monster pc right now

[@donutsarecute5209]

Now try it on an air laptop

[@nsawatchlistbait289]

If you pirated parallels, installed windows, you can then pirate any game made for windows

[@HistoryOnPaper]

I have Mac book pro from 2017 and it struggles to run Windows Xp. But it can launch steam with no problem

[@someguywithmtndew5691]

no sherlock it will struggle to run XP because it’s on modern hardware with no proper driver support

[@HistoryOnPaper]

@@someguywithmtndew5691 i installed the virtual drivers

[@faristhehonest]

tried playing Star Citizen but I couldn't but I wanted to so badly since I don't have a PC, a Mac will always excel at productivity stuff but not gaming

[@zacharystaines]

Its crazy to see things shifting but yeah even with all this tinkering a good PC goes a long way lol

[@jesseordonez5088]

Now you can just use the latest version of crossover. It costs money but it saves you the hassle of having to install the game porting toolkit.

[@Theunicorn2012]

Now you can just use the latest version of crossover. It costs money but it saves you the hassle of having to install the game porting toolkit.

[@smartlearning6390]

@@Theunicorn2012why duplicated comment ?

[@444NRG]

great video

[@daikishinomiya]

Been playing titanfall 2 and it's amazing

[@k1ng_kaka]

Bro this is SICK!! :]

[@Izudra]

I need the MacBook for music production stuff and game every 3-4 Months. In this case the MacBook m3 pro is actually fine, I can play hogwarts legacy with crossover, ultra settings 2k res in 60+ fps. I would never recommend macbooks for gamers, but it still can handle some games

[@unkown34x33]

I would say, the m1 is very impressive, but... I prefer the APU from the steam deck. Coz apple won't say it, but ARM, is an APU. But, just buy a console if you can't deal with PC. But I would also say... On PC, you are the king you can control a lot of things in the game. My advice would be, give it a try.

[@zeeshanaftab3215]

If u play longer heatups can damage the chip.

[@tomsweepwinguser8233]

moreso psu

[@Wyn3e]

Well apple cooling is made for that in mind also the fact dev kit is made and if devs use it on mac for games it's gonna run hot anyways they ofc know and thought about that

[@ggisold]

Best option is to turn the Mac into a full windows

[@MaskRobloxOfficial]

First off this video was GREAT! wasn't expecting this quality of writing from a channel of your size and you aced it! second of all, compliments aside... I feel like yes, the MacBook in a vacuum is great. But once you start comparing it to similarly priced windows machienes the glory starts to fall apart. You can pick up a good specced M1 Max laptop for around 2 grand (British Pound £) and for the same price you can pick up a system with an rte 4080 and an i9-139980HX (and some spare cash onto of that if you find a good deal on one) and those things run cyberpunk at triple the fps. Which, weighing up ALL the benefits of using Mac, its kind of hard to ignore the drawbacks. here, 99% of people will use the battery life argument as a reasoning as to why Mac is better than windows but I want to bring up the screens which for the price SUCK at gaming. The motion rendering and response time just aren't it for gaming (which is kinda important in the context of replacing your gaming pc?) with that said, great video and hope you enjoy a new sub

[@Claude-ps7wq]

See what people should understand it could replace a Windows PC a gaming PC about the times over in fact you’ll probably get less bugs less but you should also understand if you’re getting it for older games that I’ve been out a while then, but it will play every new thing on the market in fact, all the newer games that are coming out as of now or getting released on it like the new assassin Creed and anything new basically that’s gonna go over there is gonna go over here so the silicone series it can I mean the M1 M2 Max whatever it can be good but it’s up to you as the gamer to know what you like. Do you want those gamers that are in it for the older stuff it’s not gonna do you justice so it’s gonna be a biased opinion, so you keep a PC specifically for that

[@LazyMiles]

2000$ is crazy

[@Vugqman]

gamung pc's and laptop have like 60 to 100fps

[@prathamgupta2036]

I Always Watch Your Videos On Repeat

[@paule7479]

Windows laptops just tend to performed so much worse over the course of a few years this would be awesome

[@chase7972]

The answer is no

[@ghostgamingakagamerguyluca926]

LOVE IT

[@timothykuznecov]

Finally something apple did good

[@alonsoulloa7901]

my m3 pro macbook pro reached 100 °C after 30 minutes playing this game soo not quite a gaming laptop to me

[@zacharystaines]

hahah flip dude yeah that's cooked

[@itsslimsumomagic]

40-50 fps not good imo.

[@sleepypanda5735]

same I play minecraft on my m2 mac

[@Sir_pancakes_]

The simple answer to the title is, NO.

[@wds143]

you have a Macbook sir ?

[@MB-nm8tt]

Simple answers from simple people.

[@Sir_pancakes_]

@@wds143 no I don't have a MacBook

[@Sir_pancakes_]

@@MB-nm8tt I'm not simple I use Linux lol

[@wds143]

then how could you say that @@Sir_pancakes_

[@dragonplayz08]

It replaced mumbo jumbo’s

[@ILOVEBENGKULU]

yoo the MacBook that i used

[@zacharystaines]

My fav MacBook for sure

[@bestcreate1417]

The macbook pro is good as it is not made for gaming ( a hundred fps in fortbite using crossover )

[@Whfkl14927]

video actual starts at half of it

[@lizzy1519]

Imagine thé performance if it was run natively

[@itsyoboibee1529]

It IS running natively... ☠️

[@lizzy1519]

@@itsyoboibee1529 i mean without translation layer thing

[@itsyoboibee1529]

@@lizzy1519 there is no translation layer…this is running natively. its not emulating windows

[@Jexus_1]

Price.

[@frenchie8039]

geforce now is a thing?????

[@zacharystaines]

Seemed to easy ya know? 😂