Can A Rank 1 Support Win In BRONZE with 0 HEALING in Overwatch 2?!

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Awkward

Awkward

Күн бұрын

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@MrJontheStallion
@MrJontheStallion Жыл бұрын
imagine just queuing into a ranked game at bronze, and this random support just drops 30k damage on your head
@Screm
@Screm Жыл бұрын
In proving his point, he also disproved it at the same time - the only time it's a valid reason to blame your teammates "Why aren't any of you smurfs, dropping 100 kills smh my head head"
@sith6375
@sith6375 Жыл бұрын
@@Screm he was trying to say that bronze isn't harder than gold lmao
@briangreenfield311
@briangreenfield311 Жыл бұрын
​@@Screm no his point is just learn to aim yourself. He says damage damage damage every damn video and you still don't get it
@josephquinto5812
@josephquinto5812 Жыл бұрын
This comment killed me 😂
@nickruiz1828
@nickruiz1828 Жыл бұрын
Yea so whack. Ruined all those games for both teams.
@DJK005
@DJK005 2 жыл бұрын
Why isn’t anyone talking about how he had 74 kills with bap 😂😂
@roachwerks3043
@roachwerks3043 2 жыл бұрын
I saw that lol nuts
@trent3589
@trent3589 2 жыл бұрын
And like 27k damage 😂
@boom-jr8vi
@boom-jr8vi 2 жыл бұрын
REPORTED!!!!!!!! NO HEALING = BAAAAAD
@BussyEnthusiast
@BussyEnthusiast 2 жыл бұрын
That bap game was insane. Bro was going 1v5
@nixsosa.
@nixsosa. 2 жыл бұрын
With no shift too 😂
@mantasvalciukas5734
@mantasvalciukas5734 2 жыл бұрын
'Guys, I see a new Mercy guide, trust me.' that one killed me, well done Awkward, thanks for reminding people that support is not healer.
@alaskanbullworm9360
@alaskanbullworm9360 2 жыл бұрын
Legit had me busting up. Gonna save that one for use LOL
@ilyaminaev1843
@ilyaminaev1843 2 жыл бұрын
Im still laughing about it ... 3 hours pass and I cant stop. xD
@borshu4938
@borshu4938 2 жыл бұрын
Bronze tank mains to after reading this 💀
@aguyontheinternet8436
@aguyontheinternet8436 2 жыл бұрын
"trust me, I read the patch notes, the gun is viable"
@silasnebulous4533
@silasnebulous4533 Жыл бұрын
Lol, but some people need to remind themselves that healing is one of the only ways to give support in overwatch.
@jtg2501
@jtg2501 2 жыл бұрын
“Healers are supposed to heal” well damage players are supposed to do damage but they ain’t 🤷‍♀️
@beanieteamie7435
@beanieteamie7435 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@RayvenFeather
@RayvenFeather 2 жыл бұрын
The role also isn’t called healer it’s called support lmfao
@LysdexicGamer
@LysdexicGamer 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to use that
@Yurusan717
@Yurusan717 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, I have to play more passively and can't deal as much damage if I'm not getting healed at all
@spacecatmeows
@spacecatmeows 2 жыл бұрын
I told this to my dps a few days ago and he rage quit xD
@veryrarekev
@veryrarekev 2 жыл бұрын
“I healed by accident” - Moira players
@therealzailon8475
@therealzailon8475 Жыл бұрын
This legit shows how most people just do not know how to play moira, just with healing orb alone and some spray here and there u usually have the same if not more healing than any other in the game, while semi free to do dmg... I feel like the biggest problem DPS moiras have is that they use their dmg orb over the healing orb way to often...
@wildridegaming
@wildridegaming Жыл бұрын
he had 4k healing when not healing, so whats moira players excuse? :P
@KillerMZE
@KillerMZE 2 жыл бұрын
I used to be mad at people picking off meta heroes / not doing a good job. After I saw your guides my mindset changed to "if I'm losing games, it's entirely my fault for not carrying, and until I do I don't deserve a higher rank". After that I started winning a lot by fixing my mistakes.
@catgirlow
@catgirlow 2 жыл бұрын
Off meta isn’t an issue, there’s always people in t500 who main off meta characters
@ThaVipaa
@ThaVipaa 2 жыл бұрын
agreed its better to play characters that you are comfortable with rather than play a meta character that you are not familiar just bc your teammate told you to switch
@8kdaren
@8kdaren 2 жыл бұрын
Fr he changed my mindset a lot and I watched his zen unranked to gm and I learned a bunch of stuff and I went from plat 5 to plat 1.
@eresoup7229
@eresoup7229 2 жыл бұрын
@@8kdaren shit made me main zen lol
@qae
@qae 2 жыл бұрын
i get that the mindset shouldn't be blame your teammates but "it's my fault i should've carried" is and even dumber mindset if you're plat+. you literally can't carry a team on your own that's why it's a team game. if you're losing while putting up chamberlain numbers it's not your fault lol any "get better" won't change that
@wibl451
@wibl451 2 жыл бұрын
you should do another with only healing to show how much worse it feels
@oscarjenkins7505
@oscarjenkins7505 2 жыл бұрын
That’d be rly interesting I think. Everyone in bronze seem to think “healers” (as they call them) are only there to heal bot and that’s it when really that’s useless in most ranks but ESPECIALLY bronze with a completely incapable team. It’d be cool to see whether it’s possible to get out of bronze with no damage done at all since it relies so heavily on his teammates. Not to hate on this video, it was entertaining and obviously meant as a joke but for someone of his level, obviously this challenge is easy, bro got over 70 elims in one game as bap LMAO he doesn’t exactly have the dps skill of a bronze. I find it funny how toxic his teammates were even tho he was winning games when they’d probably love it if he was heal botting and had no damage even tho that’d almost definitely get him less wins.
@andrewwu6196
@andrewwu6196 2 жыл бұрын
Healbotting is bad but it’s still winnable healbotting, you just rely more on your team
@ClaraBennett
@ClaraBennett 2 жыл бұрын
TBH, if you’re heal-focused but surviving and healing the right allies, you can still do a lot in low rank. A lot of low-rank players refuse to help anyone while they are being aggressive, whether it’s because they’re scared or just don’t notice/aren’t prepared, and they end up dumping a lot of healing into fights that are already basically lost (or could only be turned around with damage). If your teammate disengages before you heal them, it’s too late.
@javianbrown8627
@javianbrown8627 2 жыл бұрын
@@oscarjenkins7505 I asked why I had the most kills on my team in a match at one point when I wasn't playing for damage and my other dps replies "least healing though". Bear in mind for the entire 2 rounds this person got 2 kills and he wanted healing. He would literally only shoot the Roadhog and get 1shoted constantly. Bear in mind this person was playing Tracer too. People in lower ranks just think supports should jam as much healing as possible up their ass cuz if they die it's not because you got 1shoted by the enemy sniper, it's because you didn't get healed
@aaronperez9518
@aaronperez9518 2 жыл бұрын
Heal only can still hard win in bronze
@BenMCramer
@BenMCramer 2 жыл бұрын
i really like seeing your mental through these games. often the hardest part is not letting my teammates tilt me. its also really funny that they think they won despite their battle mercy, not because of you
@shtinkyboy8674
@shtinkyboy8674 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's easier for his mental since he knows he's one of the best players in the world haha
@techwizsmith7963
@techwizsmith7963 2 жыл бұрын
Battle mercy with twice their elims lmao, Imagine being on that team and thinking the mercy is the problem
@TSLMachine
@TSLMachine Жыл бұрын
If that is one of your biggest problems, just mute/leave voice chat and squelch text chat from toxic people.
@JacquesOozy
@JacquesOozy Жыл бұрын
​@@TSLMachinegreat advice 👍 I completely disabled all chats a long time ago and am enjoying the game a lot more !
@Aurora12488
@Aurora12488 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the opposite video too, where you only heal as a support. Because that's the other excuse: "my healing is useless because my teammates are stupid, nothing I do as support matters". Maybe show how smart heals can swing the tempo of games in your favor even if your teammates are low rank.
@zeedstun891
@zeedstun891 2 жыл бұрын
Id love to see this. This vid already defied my expectations. we already have a baseline for the damage theyre doing and kills theyre getting. we can clearly see what a "standard bronze player" looks like. seeing him trying to save that would be a christmas miracle😂
@santiagogalf
@santiagogalf 2 жыл бұрын
theres no point doing that, he said in a previous vid the only way to carry matches is with damage not healing so if he gets bad teammates he could infinitely heal them and they could still miss all of their shots and never kill an enemy
@Aurora12488
@Aurora12488 2 жыл бұрын
​@@santiagogalf Hmm, I don't buy that argument. Statistically the other team is not going to have better players than yours, so if your team's missing their shots, the other team is as well. In that scenario, identifying the (relative) strengths of your team and smartly doing healing and other support effects (e.g. discord orb, sleep, anti-nade, damage boost) to give them an edge, plus maybe shotcalling, seems like a reasonable way to climb as a support.
@santiagogalf
@santiagogalf 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aurora12488 k whatever u say bro it isnt gonna happen im 100% sure lol
@Oreo-y4o
@Oreo-y4o 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aurora12488 statistically, there is a 60 to 70 percent rate the other team gets better players. The rank system in ow2 is like this: "if u are good, your teammates will be bad and the other team will be good". Why? To push u to learn more skills. As a main support, I can vouch for this. I always start the matches healing more than dpsing. And in 80% of the cases, I have to start dpsing more than healing in the second round, if I wanna win. All the games I have won are the ones in which as a support I did a lot of damage. I sometimes have more kills than my dps and tank. And yeah, I am still in bronze even if my stats are clean. I know that's a me problem, I am trying to figure out what matters in ranking up. Cuz my feeling is that the only thing that matters are the stats, not the win/lose rate. But I am still experimenting this.
@ClaraBennett
@ClaraBennett 2 жыл бұрын
I just realized that in the Kiriko game, the enemy Mercy/Moira player who said “bro go heal your team” only did 900 more healing than Awkward did with Suzus and passive healing only.
@_sudo
@_sudo 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy that people flame and report you when your team is stomping. Even in diamond, I get yelled at for not heal botting as an Ana main, but since I've started prioritizing damage I've climbed from gold to diamond with a 60%+ win rate. It really works.
@lobmania
@lobmania 2 жыл бұрын
"Everything that you learn in the game is improving your ability to learn everything in life" This is beautiful man
@aguyontheinternet8436
@aguyontheinternet8436 2 жыл бұрын
??
@JetGravy
@JetGravy 2 жыл бұрын
Challenge: Do the same thing but heals only, no damage.
@bihazards
@bihazards Жыл бұрын
That's just regular bronze gameplay.
@dylancoulter2278
@dylancoulter2278 Жыл бұрын
Play lifeweaver challenge?
@PhabioTheHost
@PhabioTheHost Жыл бұрын
@@bihazards and that's the point. A good DPS can climb out of bronze. But can a Support? All we saw was a good DPS picking good DPS supports. Guy spent 0 effort on actually being a support. Like wow a dude with great mechanical skill at DPS can do DPS! What a shocker.
@albionpewpew
@albionpewpew Жыл бұрын
​@@PhabioTheHost here's the thing. A good support is not a heal bot. If all you do is shoot teammates on ana, you are a bad ana. If all you do is right click on bap, you are a bad bap. Good supports climb out of bronze, not because they are heal bots but because they know how and when to be aggressive and carry the team.
@宮沢春子
@宮沢春子 Жыл бұрын
@@PhabioTheHost he literally played battle mercy and you out here saying all he did was pick good dps support?
@camxnz
@camxnz 2 жыл бұрын
Insane how you are very obviously carrying them and they just whine you aren't heal botting them so they can miss all their shots and lose lol
@acativ9
@acativ9 2 жыл бұрын
yeah i find it interesting as well especially because when you think about it, youll see that people notice the negatives and the bad about your moves alot easier than the good. really shows you that you shouldnt care much about what people say
@acativ9
@acativ9 2 жыл бұрын
and more interesting... the same kind of people could be me and you as well. who knows when was the last time w behaved like these people
@camxnz
@camxnz 2 жыл бұрын
@@acativ9 yeah to be fair I'd probably be quite mad if we were standing on payload and my support was blatantly refusing to heal me regardless of how well they were doing 😂 still funny for a youtube video
@ThaVipaa
@ThaVipaa 2 жыл бұрын
@Cameron Ray i might be mad for no heals but i never use coms to flame anyone 😂
@BrendanishLeo
@BrendanishLeo 2 жыл бұрын
In his zen unranked to gm in placements people were trying to tell him he was bad lmfao. There are times people have decent tips, but 90% of the time it's idiots who are mad. If you don't want to pick the good from the bad, safe to just squelch
@kettlez3892
@kettlez3892 2 жыл бұрын
I love Awkward so much, his content is pure fire the mindset is top tier and his explinations on vods are clear cut. 10/10 the content we've always needed.
@TheModularian
@TheModularian 2 жыл бұрын
I know its really a long shot, but I'd love for Blizzard to create a metric for player impact in the game, to shut down false reports. Awkward got reported so many times, and for what? Not conforming to their expectations? He was doubling or tripling the DPS in damage AND eliminations. The delusion you would have to be, to get mad at being carried just blows my mind.
@Awkward2
@Awkward2 2 жыл бұрын
That's why they are stuck in Bronze
@jevom
@jevom 2 жыл бұрын
In the junker town match, it's so funny that the other support decided to go Lúcio even though everyone was complaining about you not healing lmao
@SleepyxFish
@SleepyxFish 2 жыл бұрын
People in lower ranks also do this. I was tank I asked my Lucio to switch cuz we needed more support than what we had and he tilted at me.
@InceyWincey
@InceyWincey 2 жыл бұрын
@@SleepyxFish I had a game with Zen Lucio once. Instead of asking them to change I decided to change my play style to account for the lack of heals. Long story short we absolutely stomped because as awkward says there is no such thing as meta below GM. Edit: Actually it’s happened quite a few times by now, and I’m pretty sure I’ve won more often than lost.
@rockstermaniac
@rockstermaniac 2 жыл бұрын
bronze/silver players have this delusion that lucio is one of the best supports to play... not for his speed boost or peel capabilities or even for his damage but because he can heal multiple people at once without having to aim. It's not unusual to run into mercy/lucio or zen/lucio comps and have the lucio lead the lobby in healing by the end of the match against teams running anna or moira. works great until those players hit a rank level where the sojourn/ashe/widow players can aim and lucio starts dying early in fights cause he's on the ground in the open.
@russellhassan7773
@russellhassan7773 2 жыл бұрын
@Incey Wincey zen lucio is brutal, you discord people and speed into them and they die instantly 👀
@SleepyxFish
@SleepyxFish 2 жыл бұрын
@@InceyWincey The thing is we had moria lucio (moria was getting caught out and doing more dmg, while the other team had extreme spam with a junk . I'm not a tank player by any means) but I believe I switched up my playstyle during the game, and ended up winning (even though me lucio went back and forth with each other)
@snouthlly1479
@snouthlly1479 Жыл бұрын
“This is my 4th game of overwatch” Completely forgets that you need to win 50 games before you can play comp
@zacharyellis7945
@zacharyellis7945 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite things Seagull said is that if you wanna get better and climb, you have to take full responsibility. Your team isn’t the reason you can’t climb, not your heals, tank, dps, anything. If you wanna climb, you have to realize, you are the reason that you’re losing, and you alone.
@WarConicX
@WarConicX 7 ай бұрын
thats for solo que players only
@frostyprime7913
@frostyprime7913 2 жыл бұрын
its shocking how despite the picks awkward got and wiped half of their team out they still complained about healing even though at most the enemy dps output was zero cause half of them are dead this shows they really do deserve the bronze rank
@satamiko
@satamiko Жыл бұрын
Well, you see... This is a team game where people that queue a role should fill said role and play in a team instead of being that person who "carries", because that is why they are in the same rank. To be a team and fill the gaps. Not to go in "ooga booga I have no dps I go brr" and then other people on the team literally end up as a fail on the rank up because of having to keep dying for no reason than just the support "having to carry" (you don't, nobody needs to carry, it's not a deathmatch, it's a team game and if people work together it always works)... This is why you see so manny supports be blamed in low ranks, they see these and end up forgetting to heal at all or not relying on the team ever without even asking for communication and help. I am a support main, I'm in Plat 1, climbed solo just by staying calm and doing actual comms as people got surprised over callouts in lower elos. Silver 2 on tank and dps for the same reason. Not even doing well in general but doing a team coordination.
@kosmonautttt
@kosmonautttt Жыл бұрын
@@satamikothis is the most plat shit I’ve ever read lmao
@satamiko
@satamiko Жыл бұрын
@@kosmonautttt If you want to show me a video of a high elo game where a person carried with nobody else doing anything as they have most stats and picks, disproving me, be my guest.
@kosmonautttt
@kosmonautttt Жыл бұрын
@@satamiko with how matchmaker is now, that is literally like 35% of games in gm lmao
@TrueOracle
@TrueOracle Жыл бұрын
​@@satamikoif you're in plat, you can easily carry, if you're in gm, it's much harder, but you still can, and it's more common to be a team diff, but that's just an excuse and has no real use when saying it.
@asherrfacee
@asherrfacee 2 жыл бұрын
You’re making the overwatch community a better place by teaching them the value of self determination.
@SpiderSpiderOnTheWall
@SpiderSpiderOnTheWall 2 жыл бұрын
Just to remind you, self healing counts as healing on the scoreboard. Due to support’s passive, you heal automatically
@alfred9805
@alfred9805 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah chat told him after the first game
@The0nlyy
@The0nlyy Жыл бұрын
Super thankful you reminded him 🙏
@zom1587
@zom1587 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly super impressed by your displine to not just play the game normally out of habit, amazing video this is the type of overwatch content that more people need to see!
@sthepaniec.7864
@sthepaniec.7864 2 жыл бұрын
Going where no support has gone before 💅🏻
@aguyontheinternet8436
@aguyontheinternet8436 2 жыл бұрын
Moiras go there all the time, and it's a core part of Zen's gameplay
@sthepaniec.7864
@sthepaniec.7864 2 жыл бұрын
@@aguyontheinternet8436I know man this comment was praise for creating content that I’ve never seen anyone else make.
@i.r.4378
@i.r.4378 Жыл бұрын
I mean 👀👀
@xykane
@xykane 2 жыл бұрын
The fact dps players are so braindead that their supports will be carrying and they’ll be like “we dont have enough heals” LMAO
@nickmatzke9314
@nickmatzke9314 Жыл бұрын
I mean yeah In between fights if he’s not healing you, that’s going to be frustrating. They don’t know he’s a top 500 player doing a content video. That genji was literally in his face spamming for heals. I was still dying from laughter though.
@therealzailon8475
@therealzailon8475 Жыл бұрын
This is the main problem as a support, handling this, rather than the bad performance of your team. Its a struggle to kinda keep your team happy so they do not perform even worse and carrying them. Handling the toxicity, them getting worse bc theyre tilted, u staying focused on what u have to do instead of letting them influence to become a heal bot. And this is some "meta-gaming" supports have to live with because of DPS players usually being braindead or having waaaaay to much ego. This is just an extra layer a support has to do, on top of doing more dmg than a DPS and healing your team enough so they dont die and u win teamfights. The mental is by far the biggest skill a support needs to get, and this is likely harder than technical skills such as aim that you can just practively learn. PPL dont give supports enough credit, and are mostly just oblivious to how this game works, that a healer is not a healer, but a support, etc
@lukasg4807
@lukasg4807 Жыл бұрын
Bruh he's refusing to give them even a healing orb or heal inbetween fights. Don't act like you wouldn't be annoyed, I wouldn't enjoy it either if I died an extra 5 times because the zen carrying my ass wouldn't even give me a heal orb.
@Cjtheboy1
@Cjtheboy1 Жыл бұрын
Local GM smurfs in bronze to prove that bronze isn’t hard, even knowing your not healing no bronze is going to have to aim you have
@broloco3966
@broloco3966 Жыл бұрын
He was talking about people who say bronze is harder than gold which is totally wrong, even silver isn't as hard as gold
@Christian_Crab
@Christian_Crab 2 жыл бұрын
Imo you can blame teams only for specific games. If you say "bad teams are the only reason I'm in X rank" then that's copium. If you see your rein charge in alone everytime or see DPS getting a negative KDA then you can point out in that game what was lacking. As bad as the overwatch Matchmaking is, you won't get bad teammates every single time to the point where you can't rank up.
@goobler5983
@goobler5983 2 жыл бұрын
yeah A10 talked about how like 10-20% of games are unwinnable even for him smurfing
@RewindMods
@RewindMods 2 жыл бұрын
You can literally blame your teammates every game and not be wrong. It's the mentality involved that is wrong. If you only blame your teammates, who are likely just as bad as you, you won't see what you're doing wrong and you'll never improve.
@serx1x186
@serx1x186 4 ай бұрын
Mad cuz bad. They can't fathom they are having their butts carried by a dps healer, so they react based on some limited preconception(s) (to win, one must do this and not that), due to their little insecurities and wounded (by fear of loss?) egos triggering the need to vent their spleen on some scapegoat(s).
@N0yce0
@N0yce0 Жыл бұрын
"how are people in bronze" idk probably the gm smurfs doing challenges like this?
@transscribe
@transscribe 2 жыл бұрын
i think the complaints about not healing are part of the "default" problem in low ranks. everyone has this conception of how the game is "supposed" to be played. Like that every fight should happen on the cart every time," or that "healers are supposed to heal," etc. They get upset with people they see who don't do these things. But in actuality, they don't understand how the game actually works, so they don't understand why things are happening. This is why low ranked players think Orisa is OP, because they're all shooting at the Orisa and ignoring the two supports keeping the Orisa alive. So Orisa feels really OP when really its their fault for not killing the supports the Orisa needs to stay alive.
@ez243
@ez243 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly correct. I've been a bronze silver player for years because I love trying to help my team. I'm never trying to carry via elims, aside from rare opportunities. I understand why I'm low rank. I'm playing the way they expect me to play. I like it. What they expect and how they often play is very wrong though. Healing people that play wrong doesn't often help win games. Of course the other team is playing wrong too, so sometime the support difference matters.
@transscribe
@transscribe 2 жыл бұрын
@@ez243 I was an Ana one trick when I was in bronze (currently diamond) and I remember a game on Anubis shortly after I decided I was just going to carry every game. I was basically killing the enemy team almost on my own while shooting the occasional heal shot on a teammate. One of our DPS made a comment about carrying the team and one of our tanks was like, “actually I think our Ana is a Smurf.”
@MrDerp-bp4qz
@MrDerp-bp4qz 2 жыл бұрын
@@transscribe I started playing Lucio non stop in season one and I learned to neglect my team and attack vulnerable people in the back line the season before I was gold now in season two I made it to masters
@bigsmall2842
@bigsmall2842 Жыл бұрын
This is why I always play Lucio and Ana. Terrorize the enemy back line while also providing utility in big team fights on the objective.
@bryandillon5549
@bryandillon5549 2 жыл бұрын
I got yelled at in a game yesterday because I was "doing too much damage as ana which means I was not healing enough." Even though we won he kept yelling at me. thanks for the videos!
@Abc86aik
@Abc86aik Жыл бұрын
You go and play dps and see how fun it become if your support refuse to give you any heals and just say "im supporter not healer, just position yourself better" Ofc you can still win the game but its a pain in the ass getting there.
@weebtrash3376
@weebtrash3376 Жыл бұрын
@@Abc86aikanyone who doesn’t have an ego and isn’t an idiot wouldn’t give a shit about their support not healing them if they’re winning and topping the charts. Support players shouldn’t try get themselves killed to to heal idiot dps players that are in bad positions, that’s how you get the entire team wiped
@ender5892
@ender5892 10 ай бұрын
​@@Abc86aikget a healtpack stop crying bro
@VitezGonye
@VitezGonye 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of people complaining after winning is insane lol, i dont get it
@giveitarub7215
@giveitarub7215 2 жыл бұрын
It's a GM player smurfing in bronze. To them this guy mine as well be a cheater and he isn't playing the role like he's supposed to meaning team mates will die constantly while you should be healing them This whole video is strange cause it doesn't prove anything. If you're stuck in bronze/low ranks you probably don't have aim anywhere near this good and aren't going to be making constant picks which are making these wins possible
@Chrys0lis
@Chrys0lis 2 жыл бұрын
@@giveitarub7215 If you're "stuck" in bronze you deserve to be so until you're good enough to get out the mechanical skill required to get out of bronze is basically have functioning arms.
@VitezGonye
@VitezGonye 2 жыл бұрын
@@giveitarub7215 Feel like you totally missed the point of the video You don't need to have GM aim to go from bronze to gold/plat whatever, you also arent forced to play dps only. The point is to position yourself better where you can actively deal damage too, obviously healing helps too. But the more you pressure their team, the more you force them to play safer, force them behind cover = can't deal as much damage to your team = don't need to heal them as much.
@giveitarub7215
@giveitarub7215 2 жыл бұрын
@@VitezGonye Yeah I get all those points, but I feel like this still sort of sends the wrong message to low rank players. Like the DPS moiras wondering why their team is losing when they have 7k damage and 3k healing, 75% of which is probably healing on themselves
@VitezGonye
@VitezGonye 2 жыл бұрын
@@giveitarub7215 Dps moira wouldnt even be the biggest problem, what I often see even in my games though (high gold) is moiras with like most deaths on team...They misuse fade super bad, which just results in getting little kills and never escaping Im quite certain all you gotta do for moira is use fade well...obviously aim not even a problem for anyone and then dont do shit like throwing orb into genji deflect
@lswang8746
@lswang8746 2 жыл бұрын
"Everything you learn in the game is improving your ability to learn everything in life". Thank for always making great and positive contents.
@jerbsherb4391
@jerbsherb4391 Жыл бұрын
4:30 i don't care how much healing you would have done, there is no way your dps was gonna do half the damage you did.
@ident1ty
@ident1ty 2 жыл бұрын
i watched the vod for the stream! insane content awkward im glad i discovered you, ow2 needs more personalities like u imo!
@animenerd7997
@animenerd7997 Жыл бұрын
No fucking way 35% of the people who saw that poll said bronze is harder than gold like how?????
@er7hos
@er7hos 2 жыл бұрын
74 elims and 27k damage as support alone proves the broze gap lmfao
@KlausMorst
@KlausMorst 6 ай бұрын
bro's really expecting bronze players to get 74 kills on bap on the regular
@cozynix8916
@cozynix8916 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this so much, the battle Mercy was my favorite 😂 “MERCY FINAL WARNING” 💀
@alfred9805
@alfred9805 2 жыл бұрын
This one cracked me up 😂😂
@AveryHyena
@AveryHyena Жыл бұрын
"Healers are supposed to heal" "I'm not a healer... I'm a support" *doom music kicks in*
@rexspecificallyredrex64rem73
@rexspecificallyredrex64rem73 Жыл бұрын
new account so bronze players were low MMR, meaning they were either new or god awful, High MMR has you playing platinum with the wrong name, try a gazillion hours in quickplay, then start comp, then see the difference.
@InfernoZX5
@InfernoZX5 Жыл бұрын
It baffles me that niggas ignore facts like this, then make a video like this as if they've proved shit.
@Phillospillo777
@Phillospillo777 2 жыл бұрын
I play a lot of Ana and I’ve even had my friends be like, man bro they are out healing us, yet we are winning and I have a ton of damage and Elims. It’s annoying when people focus on the numbers way too much.
@RewindMods
@RewindMods 2 жыл бұрын
"it's so cool how this game just shows the stats right there on the scoreboard so nobody can make excuses." - average overwatch copium Ana has so much utility that basing someone's performance on her based purely on how much healing or damage she has is wild.
@SelenePR17
@SelenePR17 2 жыл бұрын
How did you have the damage of both your dps combined… as a baptiste LMFAOOO thats insane
@botta88
@botta88 Жыл бұрын
I love how people win and are still mad. It's like they think you are their to serve their enjoyment only and to make their experience better.
@rusticgd
@rusticgd Жыл бұрын
Not even in bronze I'm in diamond Plat but cmon no bronze is gonna have gm aim
@Agm-nb2wu
@Agm-nb2wu Жыл бұрын
bro had teams diffs the whole time ofc you win when your team out heals and out dps the other team💀
@armanghanaat8808
@armanghanaat8808 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the vid! Especially since you crippled yourself way more than what not healing teammates would look like, you didnt even self-heal on baptise with shift. Pretty impressive aim yo!
@moses7778
@moses7778 Жыл бұрын
Another gem from the CEO of damage. *countless bronze players were physically and emotionally damaged in the making of this video*
@ShouldOfStudiedForTheTest
@ShouldOfStudiedForTheTest Жыл бұрын
"Proving" by being a GM player farming bronze players. Ok then let me prove thag you don't need a goalkeeper to win in football. To do that I am going to roll a team of schoolchildren and I we are only the Argentinian national team.
@lostmycat5671
@lostmycat5671 10 ай бұрын
ik this is like serial necro posting, but he literally won a game while carrying no heal no ult only discord and ONLY RIGHT CLICK please be serious rn
@-_-adrian-_-
@-_-adrian-_- 2 ай бұрын
His only point was that school children are worse then Collage students.
@penguinbro896
@penguinbro896 2 жыл бұрын
Hopes and Dreams playing in the background of battle mercy gameplay is the funniest thing I’ve seen all day
@hehexd4774
@hehexd4774 2 жыл бұрын
Really hoping to see more of this style of video from you man, very entertaining and educational as always, great work!
@AzureVoltic
@AzureVoltic Жыл бұрын
When you want to play damage but want shorter queues and 100 battle points.
@PradelBjr
@PradelBjr 2 жыл бұрын
Im hard stuck on bronze 1, and i approve this message, lol. Your last video got me to bronze 1 Ana. Now i have to figure out how to climb. This helps i will heal still but it shows me I need to work on my aim a little more. Thanks
@niftyfearless9923
@niftyfearless9923 2 жыл бұрын
Just curious how many deaths do you usually have a game as Anna?
@roachwerks3043
@roachwerks3043 2 жыл бұрын
@@niftyfearless9923 now I’m curious about that too
@PradelBjr
@PradelBjr 2 жыл бұрын
It depends, honestly. I range between 2 to 11 based on my team and how aggressive I play sometimes. When I'm not zoned out and I'm playing my best, I don't die unless the usual flank comes from behind. I still can't blame my team even when i get the usual throwers. If my aim was better and I play the best angles, it's hard for bronze players to catch me unless they have a Smurf account.
@niftyfearless9923
@niftyfearless9923 2 жыл бұрын
@@PradelBjr best advice I could give you to help you get out of bronze (if you even want it lol) prioritize your life before anyone else in the game. Your tank or dps goes and yeets themselves into the enemy and out of your line of sight don’t endanger yourself to heal them. You alive is way more impactful in your games than dead. Stay alive. Know when a teammate is a lost cause and not worth your resources. Don’t flame them but don’t waste your time on them either. If your dps or tank is not getting value don’t give them resources. Especially tanks. If your tank is constantly going way too deep and feeding the enemy alt charge and not creating space or getting kills on their back line don’t heal them. It would better for you to damage and try to kill their dps or supports in that situation. Watching replays of your games is great in learning when your team is getting value and when they are not and will inform you when you should give resources and when not to. If you dps with Ana don’t dps tanks unless they are very low and you can get the kill. 3 shots is all it takes to kill any dps or support in the game. Last thing, go into your games with a goal. Not “I want to win” but something like, “this game I’d like to not die more than 4 times” if that is a goal ahead of your game you will subconsciously work towards that and play for your life and in turn you will play better and win more. Stay calm in your games and relax. You will play at your potential if you are not tensed up. Good luck climbing. You can do it!
@PradelBjr
@PradelBjr 2 жыл бұрын
@@niftyfearless9923 thanks so much. I replay my vids but never know what to look for. Now I do. I will reply once I move up the ranks. Thanks.
@praisedsquishy
@praisedsquishy Жыл бұрын
4:30 ridiculous amount of damage. My highest on dps is 27k in 25 minutes, you're insane🤯
@orbitae_
@orbitae_ 2 жыл бұрын
the mercy game killed me LMFAOO no shot those are real players
@Joutube_is_trash
@Joutube_is_trash 2 жыл бұрын
7:25 was a true anime moment, the dva player's mic even sounded like he was in the cockpit
@aguyontheinternet8436
@aguyontheinternet8436 2 жыл бұрын
He's just looking out for his fellow support, while he bravely tanks the damage
@shantakidd6230
@shantakidd6230 2 жыл бұрын
For most people it’s very easy to forgive themselves for something they wouldn’t forgive someone else for. That’s why many people find it easy to just blame their team and say Elo hell while ignoring some of the fight losing plays they’ve made like chasing 1 person into 3 of their teammates and dying, or immediately running from the fight after 1 teammate dies turning a 4v5 into a 3v5 turning a potential comeback into a near guaranteed lost fight. I know that I do it, and I know that I don’t realize it until I watch my vods back but I’m trying to get better at that and at changing my mindset to a “what I can do” instead of “what my team isn’t doing”.
@devdog7409
@devdog7409 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed that too. Someone will be dying the whole game doing something stupid and casual say mb or laugh it off. The second someone else dies they go in on them and blame them for everything. It’s like they are scared someone is going to call them out so they blame someone else to deflect. I’m convinced most people would rather lose the game than look like they had anything to do with the problems on the team.
@Cheshirechoes
@Cheshirechoes 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Jet Set Radio soundtrack on Lucio men, great content as always.
@monsterbob5691
@monsterbob5691 2 жыл бұрын
Had a game the other day with a moira and mercy duo doing a no healing game and everyone was upset at first but i was laughing my ass off the whole time and we ended up winning shit was actually too funny
@aguyontheinternet8436
@aguyontheinternet8436 2 жыл бұрын
lmao. Just get soldier, sombra, and hog. Then no healing required.
@Abc86aik
@Abc86aik Жыл бұрын
"Just go sombra or soldier dude" That right there is the problem, so every other dps role is now suppose to be unplayable because support players just decided they wont heal? And hog is the only tank playable from now on if you want some heals because support is called support, not healer?
@ichigokurosaki8483
@ichigokurosaki8483 11 ай бұрын
I got a few supports doing this challenge in a couple games this weekend but the result was not the same.
@davestan
@davestan 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing vid bro it’s always funny to see your team flame after you out damage the dps and tank
@Awkward2
@Awkward2 2 жыл бұрын
Tell me about it
@aguyontheinternet8436
@aguyontheinternet8436 2 жыл бұрын
they are just jealous
@toasticide816
@toasticide816 Жыл бұрын
The toxicity despite winning is frankly hilarious
@DeckyMass
@DeckyMass 2 жыл бұрын
Bronze players are all in the Support=Healer mindset. This video shows that sometimes the best way to support your team is to get eliminations
@aguyontheinternet8436
@aguyontheinternet8436 2 жыл бұрын
That's why there is the counter movement of supports≠healers, because they also have utility. The bronze comments in this video shows that the movement isn't working as well as we want it to.
@aguyontheinternet8436
@aguyontheinternet8436 2 жыл бұрын
It infuriated me that people were calling you a _healer_ and NO ONE corrected them, not even you. Everyone knows overwatch doesn't have healers, it has supports. There is a difference. Also, that Winston is just jealous you got more elims than him as mercy.
@humanetrout8805
@humanetrout8805 2 жыл бұрын
i just recently got into ow2, and im having a blast. Its funny how i was recommended Jay3 and Awkward videos and Jay advocates "support = healer" while Awkward here advocates "support /= healer". very interesting
@Awkward2
@Awkward2 2 жыл бұрын
Who is Rank 1 though?
@humanetrout8805
@humanetrout8805 2 жыл бұрын
@@Awkward2 hahah, yeah no clu who Jay3 is 😅 ill take your word then mr rank1 :)
@aguyontheinternet8436
@aguyontheinternet8436 2 жыл бұрын
6:23 Just noticed it was the enemy mercy flaming him LMAO
@parkervybiral1736
@parkervybiral1736 2 жыл бұрын
Dude you HAVE to turn this into a full challenge. This was hilarious😂
@aguyontheinternet8436
@aguyontheinternet8436 2 жыл бұрын
was this not a full challenge?
@koc0090
@koc0090 Жыл бұрын
i just love how this dude puts everyone on the spot lol, no excuses!
@bstrouble
@bstrouble 2 жыл бұрын
Love your coaching style. I’d like to see an unranked to Gm with Dva!
@muteunmute5902
@muteunmute5902 11 ай бұрын
Well obviously, you dont even need top500 skill level to be able to win bronze game with only dps'ing on support.
@projectzeeno
@projectzeeno 2 жыл бұрын
Mercy with the highest damage in the whole lobby 😤
@LukeKhalidR
@LukeKhalidR Жыл бұрын
I remember getting a bronze account in ow1, 1200sr game on kings row 68 elims on tracer we won the game and they all reported me for not swapping lol
@adammonk3149
@adammonk3149 2 жыл бұрын
Awkward loving zen is actually so perfect, my guy has so much wisdom. Linking improving in overwatch to getting a raise was too woke haha
@marcelmuller9606
@marcelmuller9606 Жыл бұрын
I dare every player that flamed him in Voicecomms for being shit like they have the deepest understanding of the game to watch this video and to realize that he achieved to climb out of bronze within 7 games, and then ask themselfs why they're stuck there for days, weeks & even months.
@Deucely
@Deucely 2 жыл бұрын
Rule #1 of videogaming with your fellow people, focus on yourself, don't worry about the other lovely people. Focus on having a good time and improving as a bonus, the ladder is just a number anyways, it doesn't inform anyone on your self worth. The winners are the people having the most fun, and it comes back, as winning is fun, so you win the most by having the most fun. So just focus on fun, which puts you in the zone and allow you to reach levels of play you didn't know you had in yourself. Plus what's fun about this mental trick is that you will attract other fellow lovely people who also vibe the same as you do, so you have fantastic fun games free of drama, all day long. Welcome to your life, much love, mwah!
@josephdavis3472
@josephdavis3472 Жыл бұрын
The only thing that _could_ make bronze harder is if you listen to your team at that rank. They screech at you for heals? Well, they probably are doing some dumb shit that they are getting no value anyway, and you couldn't help them - if you DID try you would just die. THAT is why it seems harder for you, don't be wholesome and listen to their advice unless their is _solid_ logic behind it. If they knew better, they wouldn't be bronze themselves. (the exception is if they are making good arguments and are very clearly smurfing, but even then most smurfs just do their own thing and don't beg bronzes for help)
@omgthisana10
@omgthisana10 2 жыл бұрын
the voice introduction lmaooooo bronze players are aware now
@securitymeasures8527
@securitymeasures8527 Жыл бұрын
"If you blame your team in bronze, you're just a loser, the Dive tanks who try to 1v5 solo enemy back-lines, DPS who only play long range without adequate aim training, and general trolls that will shit talk if you aren't pocketing are NOT why you're losing. It's because you aren't magically pulling Shots and kills like a top 500 player, which makes you a loser no matter what you say." -Awkward 2023 This is idiotic, plain and simple. And this is ignoring the fact that competitive ranking does actually work against healers in lower Elo since you will receive more ranking points for high damage and elim numbers, over high healing and assist numbers. Don't believe me? Drop yourself to bronze 5, play with the focus of keeping your allies alive, [No, you cannot group queue to try and side skirt the struggle the majority will experience, as most play solo queue], most people in bronze don't have godlike aim so pretending they should just magically gain that to rank up is idiotic, next drop to bronze 5 again and [if you have the aim, if not play Moira] focus on playing damage, you will notice a glaring difference in rank climbing between the two types, which goes against the entire philosophy of ensuring a balanced experience for varied playstyles. For those curious, I try to play a mix between healing and damage with more of a focus on keeping people alive, have a general healing range of 14k-20k healing per match, and a generalized death count between 2-5 per match. I have very often gone 5-4 to 5-9 and somehow ended up with a deranking event, or the rank refusing to change at all after the 5th win. I have tried playing through all 5 wins in one day with multiple attempts at climbing and the result has remained almost constant with minimum climb of 1-2 ranks after 3 or more rank changes. To put that in perspective, I've spent a day playing Moira, focused on just harassing back-lines and healing on occasion with a low general healing per match of 5k-9k, and ended up ranking faster because I was self ensuring elims and higher damage numbers than I would when actually playing to support the team. The reason people will say it is harder in bronze, is because bronze is often filled with trolls, the self proclaimed gods that are actually just feeders, and people like "Awkward" here who Derank to shit on those who are struggling, exasperating the problem, and fucking up the Statistical requirements that the game uses to judge players in specific Elo's against each other. There's a reason you can report people suspected of Deranking under 'Cheating', they are actively fucking the system that determines rank by skill by jacking the statistical skill ceiling for an Elo that should be judging players with low-moderate skill against each other, not trying to wonder why little timmy isnt just pulling the same numbers as a top 500 GM in bronze.
@jamesharbingerofchaos4676
@jamesharbingerofchaos4676 2 жыл бұрын
Insane content, hope you make more of these😂
@kashgarinn
@kashgarinn 2 жыл бұрын
I’d have liked to see you start in bronze 5, just so you can see the ridiculous chaos.
@Lithium_82
@Lithium_82 2 жыл бұрын
"zenyatta, JESUS CHRIST!" I felt that.
@aguyontheinternet8436
@aguyontheinternet8436 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure they said to report him cause they thought he was cheating lmao
@Khage666
@Khage666 Жыл бұрын
“Awww! She knew! That is not a bronze player. That is a masters player in disguise!” 😂 3:22
@ahola3208
@ahola3208 Жыл бұрын
Why isn't this guys account banned already? He's made so many smurf accounts
@ditchfood8047
@ditchfood8047 Жыл бұрын
If you do everything you can as gold 1 at gold 1 skill level but your team feeds, you can certainly blame your team. If you are not a top 1 player then you need your team as it is a team game. You cant just turn into a pro everytime your team is lacking and hard carry. There is always things that you can do better but sometimes the team just isnt there. You can be rank 1 player and still lose to bronze because of leavers and because your team is bronze.
@immortaldev1489
@immortaldev1489 7 ай бұрын
sure, but on average you should climb if you're better, regardless if you're gold or top 500
@FailingGH3
@FailingGH3 2 жыл бұрын
Like I always tell my supports, you don't need to heal if the enemy is dead. Healing is usually reactionary, but damage should be always be proactive. Masters on the climb to GM, love when my supports show up on kill feed
@FrostPhoenix_
@FrostPhoenix_ 2 жыл бұрын
5:23 Man the amount of "I need healing" spam was just hilarious and I couldn't stop laughing while in the forefront there is a DPS speed boosted only Lucio with his full on glory. 😳🤣
@beartrap9367
@beartrap9367 2 жыл бұрын
that was entertaining thnx awkward
@ledernierutopiste
@ledernierutopiste 2 жыл бұрын
I've had teammate with less heal then you have in those games, despite them actually trying to be healers. Especially in placement game early in the season, i'm not even joking i saw that with my eyes.
@maclethal666
@maclethal666 2 жыл бұрын
the crying in team chat lmao
@wagons1431
@wagons1431 Жыл бұрын
Bronzes aren’t saying there supposed to be top 500 tho. A gold stuck in bronze has a lot less carrying potential.
@LMS737
@LMS737 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. Nice video! And now I expect them to say that it is because you are top 500 and that for the rest it is impossible... In the end over many games, if you are better than the lobby you will climb, no matter the rank or team. Blaming the team is the easiest way to ignore your own mistakes. Everybody expects to be climbing up multiple ranks easily. But they don't realize how many hours Awkward or any other Top 500 has played this game.
@InceyWincey
@InceyWincey 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, unless you are actually good enough to completely carry your team it is probably impossible to do this particular challenge. Nobody who is currently in bronze is ever going to get out of bronze if they decide to stop healing entirely, because they won’t kill the enemy quick enough to win the team fight.
@Ztgj90A
@Ztgj90A 2 жыл бұрын
It'd be hard for a real bronze player to carry the team though. 😅 their aim and gaming sense wouldn't be good enough. But like you said time and effort would result in ranking up. Learning how to do good positioning, improving their aim and doing great plays will help in going out of bronze. Would be great to see awkward make a vid about coaching a real bronze player while doing comp lmao
@reason3883
@reason3883 2 жыл бұрын
Back when I first started playing in season 4 I mained soldier mostly because of my previous cod GBs experience but also the heal pad and the overall carry potential you can do. It was just a matter of killing them before your entire health bar of a team goes to zero and if I lost it wasn't my teams fault. I blamed myself for not doing better
@reason3883
@reason3883 2 жыл бұрын
And if anyone is curious I hit gm s6 solo queuing after starting s4. It was a while ago but the idea still applies. Blame yourself first and look to improve and minimize your own mistakes.
@Name-sl3bm
@Name-sl3bm 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao they have no excuse now 🤣
@aguyontheinternet8436
@aguyontheinternet8436 2 жыл бұрын
as he said over and over and over
@BrendanishLeo
@BrendanishLeo 2 жыл бұрын
Happy holidays bud, super happy I found your content when I got back into ow
@lachieblue
@lachieblue 2 жыл бұрын
this was so fun to watch live
@raineredacted161
@raineredacted161 Жыл бұрын
I support doing this just so people who started playing in ow2 stop calling supports "healers"
@AutumnlLeaf
@AutumnlLeaf Жыл бұрын
This isn't impressive. Dude is just stroking his ego for content smurfing in bronze. 😴 Just check his recent tweet
@allmightypixel9770
@allmightypixel9770 Жыл бұрын
He quickly ranks up to diamond on multiple videos. What are you talking about? His doing this because so many believe they need to heal.
@grimreapurr6576
@grimreapurr6576 Жыл бұрын
the fact that people still flamed you even while you were winning is just crazy to me 😭you're really good and i hope to get to your level someday
@jake9854
@jake9854 Жыл бұрын
but girls dont like him cauz he doesnt heal tho
@grimreapurr6576
@grimreapurr6576 Жыл бұрын
i'm a girl and i like him lol
@jake9854
@jake9854 Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapurr6576 a girl dat likes overwatch?! i like u too
@tyronedavis3622
@tyronedavis3622 2 жыл бұрын
I voted that bronze was harder. I admit it. I did enjoy the video. Very inspiring
@SlashedUpon
@SlashedUpon 2 жыл бұрын
That Bap window clip left a wet spot in my trousers
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