Can a Ruger 10-22 be competitive? Precision rifle shooting

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@macgyver5108
@macgyver5108 Жыл бұрын
They can be, _if_ you find the right ammo and do a little trick called "torque tuning" on the action/takedown screw. That screw is the biggest Achilles Heel of the 10/22, because there's only ONE without a second one in the rear of the action! It creates a pivot point that alters your barrel harmonics/accuracy. They make kits to drill and tap a rear action screw, but that can be tricky too. Instead... take that Wheeler fat wrench and try shooting groups @ 10,20 and 30 inch pounds on that screw and you'll be _surprised_ at your differences in group sizes! Then try going back again and split the difference which torque direction it shot better, either 15 or 25 inch pounds and shoot groups again.👍
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
I've seen this done. I agree. In fact I think I'll do a follow up video on this rifle and I'll do that method. Thanks!
@macgyver5108
@macgyver5108 Жыл бұрын
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork no worries@ If you really wanna nail it down you could even go to 2 inch lb increments too.
@lawrencehawk5179
@lawrencehawk5179 Жыл бұрын
Mc aye ver, like the show? Anyways, saw a video on that. Been meaning to get a robot screwdriver. Might get one for this summer, what pound " should I start before I look for the sweet spot on my 10/22?
@jmcguire708
@jmcguire708 Жыл бұрын
I've noticed this to make a huge difference in grouping size with mine. I found my sweet spot to be 14inlbs, and even as little as a full inch pound higher or lower makes a difference.
@MrPiimpslap
@MrPiimpslap Жыл бұрын
Victor Company's stock for the 10/22 has the ability to apply pressure to the tang. And they have a kit that basically stabs the rear of the receiver to remove that pivot from the solo action screw.
@currywilkins6244
@currywilkins6244 Жыл бұрын
I have two custom built 10/22s that I shot 3 position 50 yard with I made it back to worlds 6 years in a row with them never placing out of the top ten every year and I won my scholarships those guns they are the reason I was able to afford to go to college
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
Dude that’s awesome!
@adamsmyth584
@adamsmyth584 Жыл бұрын
Just buy a Kidd heavy 16 or 18 inch non fluted Matt barrel, no threading, a Kidd 2 stage trigger and a set of springs for your new Kidd bolt and rod and be done with it. That will give you all the accuracy you need if fitted properly.
@dcalero56
@dcalero56 Жыл бұрын
shot my KIDD 10/22 at a PRS match this weekend and took home first place in the first time shooter category out of three us. I was the only one shooting a semi-auto and we shot targets out to 200 yards. I have the KIDD rear tang in place and had a magpul hunter stocked milled to receive the rear tang screw. Its a tack driver. Great video!
@pevelyhomeowner327
@pevelyhomeowner327 Жыл бұрын
Your KIDD 10/22 looks to be the ticket for shooting PRS semiautomatic. Congrats on the win!
@5stargunsandgear
@5stargunsandgear Жыл бұрын
Kidds are awesome run a Kidd trigger in one of my 3 10/22 I have had better accuracy benchrest with the Volquartsen Barrel but Tony Kidd makes some some reat products and rifles.
@JSomerled
@JSomerled 5 ай бұрын
I use the KIDD trigger group…it’s outstanding
@MrTylero28
@MrTylero28 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got an X ring receiver and barrel I built using a 2stage Kidd and the KRG bravo with full length arca rail and tripod mini spigot. Using an arken ep5 5-25x56 scope and it’s an absolute dream to shoot. I love stretching it out. It’s a great setup for sure. I also got the bravo butt pad and it’s very much worth buying
@mitchmoe6224
@mitchmoe6224 10 ай бұрын
If anyone is interested in saving time and money building up a 10/22, order yourself a Kidd Innovations barrel and trigger, then drop it into a Victor Titan stock. I played with one of my 10/22's for ages, adding all sorts of different combinations. Once i found the combinations i liked, i duplicated the setup on my second 10/22, and as expected i yielded similar results. Now both of my 10/22's shoot dime size groups at 50yrds and they arent finicky about ammo, just an impact shift when switching between brands that are good, like CCI. Even Federal Automatch shot very well. I will agree with you about the Federal premium gold match, it's a terrible investment.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@lawrencehawk5179
@lawrencehawk5179 Жыл бұрын
Have the Titan stock. Zero wobble. Also has the anchor kit on the reqr for two screws instead of one. Twice the torque. Also with a Green Mountain barrel. Hits the 10, 🎯.
@beyondtwominutes
@beyondtwominutes Жыл бұрын
My 22lr competiting started with a rigger 10/22. I had over 1,000 into that rifle only thing left that was rugger was the receiver. Everything was Kidds inovation. I held my own comps believe or not (i didnt know a whole lot about nrl22 but i hought an nrl 22 target setup etc). After about 2 comps shooting eley i ditch the rugger and bought a rimx. In my opinion a semi out rimfire will never be able to keep up with most decent factory bolt action 22lr rifle. 10/22s have their place but it's not in comps with 1inch targets at 100 yards etc.
@langleyj8199
@langleyj8199 Жыл бұрын
Try the 10/22 custom shop. Shoots under half inch groups at 50 all day. Did the KYL rack at 50. 8 shots, 8 hits, last one 1/4 inch. So, yes, 10/22 with a good trigger shoots very well. SK long range.
@Dayattherange
@Dayattherange Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the video man I loved this content when you do this type of stuff. Federal Gold Medal Match has been less than stellar for me also. Now the Federal Gold Medal UltraMatch on the other hand was awesome. Unfortunately they stopped making it many years ago.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching sir!
@erich9111
@erich9111 Жыл бұрын
Your problem is likely the action sliding around in the chassis. KRG makes an excellent product, but the 1022 either needs some extra hacks to lock it down, or a softer stock material to dig into.
@HiPhi1975
@HiPhi1975 Жыл бұрын
great video - would have been nice if you have shot groups with the old setup so one could compare if its worth the money to do the upgrade
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
Yep that’s fair. I should have.
@mikopaq
@mikopaq 9 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking at the beginning, how do we compare it? The stock he had was an upgrade already.
@mikemadsen7136
@mikemadsen7136 Жыл бұрын
would have been neat to see how it shot before the mods to measure against baseline. a lot more time, $, effort though I get it.
@corneliuswowbagger
@corneliuswowbagger Жыл бұрын
I have a 1967 model with walnut stock and aluminum receiver.
@danulman8837
@danulman8837 Жыл бұрын
Two things-1 Fed GM Match does suck. 2 because you’re “not committed to the process” you’re ammo group info is worthless. You don’t need to scrub the bore but you do need to run at least ten rounds when you switch ammo or you’re wasting your time even looking at the groups.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I’m aware. Which is why I said the “hard core 22 shooters” were going to cringe because I wasn’t doing all those things. At some point I might do a video comparing accuracy between this rifle and other 22’s I have.
@kaiblackout6216
@kaiblackout6216 Жыл бұрын
I use a Kidd barrel and a Magpul stock. Put ten rounds inside a dime at 50 yards consistently.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard those barrels are legit.
@JSomerled
@JSomerled 5 ай бұрын
I modified my 10/22s .. the only original parts I kept was the receiver and bolt..Shoots great.. I’d like to either design and cut a receiver for a savage type barrel nut .
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 5 ай бұрын
agree, they are super fun to mod. thanks for watching.
@joshjosh575
@joshjosh575 4 күн бұрын
Just toook my 10/22 take down, 1 year later after beating it up not cleaning it, took it to range, zero still holds perfectly. Yes the torque screw play big roll. Especially if your like me and pull the gun into your shoulder with any muscle it will cause the barrel to shift very subtle if torque is too lose, and over tightening it also makes rounds more erratic. But once it’s tuned in, mark the screw frame.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 4 күн бұрын
Sweet. Thanks for commenting.
@GeorgeBurgers-xt5hr
@GeorgeBurgers-xt5hr 11 ай бұрын
When she was 8 years old my granddaughter shot my 10-22 bull barrel for the first time. After proper instructions in breathing, trigger control, rifle and range safety she promptly shot 100-8X on 15 yard target at 25 yards. Yes, the 1022 can be accurate. I have a picture of the target to prove it.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 11 ай бұрын
“Accurate” I agree. Truly competitive in 22 precision rifle competitions…I have yet to see that Rug10/22.
@visamedic
@visamedic 7 ай бұрын
LOL Same with my daughter. I’m shocked she didn’t try to take it with her when she moved out 😂
@riflemanjim
@riflemanjim Жыл бұрын
My 10/22 target with krg and brx trigger with a factory barrel shoots fairly well at 50yds.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
Cool. I think there are some that are fairly accurate. For sure money can be spent to make them better.
@patrickweaver1105
@patrickweaver1105 Жыл бұрын
The ultimates section of the Rimfire Central forum has many examples of 10/22 rifles that can shoot near 1/4" groups at 100 yards off a bench. You just have to bring the gun up to spec and get an accurate barrel. The brand of the barrel is less important that the qualities of the individual barrel. It's easier with a bolt gun but you can do it with a modified 10/22 if a shooter does his part.
@ranger178
@ranger178 Жыл бұрын
I think the bullets are nice and warm in the house and when you shoot them out into the cold air, they start shivering travelling with that terrible wind chill down to the target.
@mikebeddingfield2144
@mikebeddingfield2144 Жыл бұрын
I put mine in a boyds thumb hole laminated wood stock with a green mountain bull barrel and boyds trigger spring gide rod and bolt spring kit's topped off with a nice glass I'm getting have inch group's at 50 haven't had the room to get it out to 100 yet but i think it will do great
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
Cool. Thanks for watching.
@barryjanis
@barryjanis Жыл бұрын
Wolf Match is Really Good Shooting Ammo . Ammo makes MORE of an improvement than some component changes. Git er Done !
@zenderfall
@zenderfall 10 ай бұрын
Wolf Match is Eley Club/Target. Same ammo, different name.
@jayztoob
@jayztoob Жыл бұрын
Your experience with Federal ammo is like mine, and is the reason I, and many of the people I know, never shoot the brand.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
Yep. Sucks.
@tomwaits4205
@tomwaits4205 Ай бұрын
My Summit Precision barrel loves the Federal Match in the bulk box. MOA 10 shot groups all day. My CZ not so much but it's still only 1.25" @100
@Mr3311957
@Mr3311957 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video for sure. I will add that I've shot Federal Gold Match (through some old Marlin 80DL Bolt Action Rifles (that were made back when there were no Serial Numbers put on these firearms), and I've had very good results from it... At the end of the day it really does come down to what your firearm likes (ammo wise) - but that's a given with all firearms... Great video, and thanks for putting it together! There's good information to be had here!
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I appreciate the feedback.
@karencollins9363
@karencollins9363 Жыл бұрын
I bought both the KRG stock and the tactical solutions barrel and I sent both back for a refund after 1 trip to the range.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
That’s a bummer
@PassionforRifles
@PassionforRifles Жыл бұрын
DID You follow the KRG torq spec?
@MrTylero28
@MrTylero28 Жыл бұрын
What made you return them? What sort of results did you get that made you not want them? Or at least not see the benefits from the price paid? I have 2 tac Sol Barrels and they’re excellent. As well as my 10/22 using a tacsol receiver and barrel setup in the bravo chassis and it’s a total tack driver for 22lr especially
@karencollins9363
@karencollins9363 Жыл бұрын
@@MrTylero28 I had the rifle in a McMillon Anschuts stock for 10 plus years. I wanted a change and I fell for the whole chassie system craze and bought the KRG. I hated the thing from the time I took it out of the box. The KRG exterior was a quality control nightmare, sharp edges at the seem between the two injection molds. The interior aluminum bedding reminded me of an "Erector Set" . The tacsolution barrel was the worst shooting barrel I ever owned. short light barrels don't shoot.
@karencollins9363
@karencollins9363 Жыл бұрын
@@PassionforRifles the takedown screw would not stay tight I even added a split lock washer.
@colingregory7464
@colingregory7464 Жыл бұрын
One of my favourite bits of design selection is the times companies decide to use larger screws and match all/most of the screws across all of an item so you can use a very limited selection to do everything ! The bits of kit that have dozens of small screws are a major pain
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
Yes. I agree.
@lazybear236
@lazybear236 Жыл бұрын
Looks like that barrel is irredeemable. If none of them will give you several sub inch 5x groups then you know the barrel needs to go
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
I think I agree with you. That rifle got taken to an FFL dealer for consignment recently. I don't have time for guns that don't shoot. I have other better 22's so this was an easy choice.
@Yahweh-Chase-Bella
@Yahweh-Chase-Bella Жыл бұрын
That last ammo was legit
@caseysimpson1806
@caseysimpson1806 Жыл бұрын
Given the cold weather, excellent filming and editing! After watching this, I will probably add a torque screw driver and some sand bags. My 10/22 is modified for walkin' around. Who knows? I may build another.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. 10/22's are super fun, no doubt about it.
@visamedic
@visamedic 3 ай бұрын
I’m not sure how old mine was when I bought it back in 92’, or how many rounds it’s had through it, and I have no idea how many thousands of rounds that I’ve put through it over 30yrs, but it’s been my go to gun since I bought it, and I’ve had a lot of rimfires. It’s been in multiple configurations. I have 4-5 barrels (none of them “target” or bull barrels) for it including the factory barrel. But the factory barrel and the current barrel (basically a threaded factory barrel) , in it’s factory stock, can keep dime sized groups at 100 yards, and it’ll smack a squirrel sized target out past 175. I can stack bullets between 25-75. And I never use Federal Rimfire ammo for any kind of accuracy, The Winchester ammo has always shot well my favorite was the Power Point in 40grn. I use to buy it by the brick. They discontinued it back in the late 90’s (at least the packaging) as far as I know but I still have over 2000 rounds in hard boxes just for hunting with that gun I did find another Winchester round, can’t think of the name off hand, but it seems to be the same setup, load, bullet, whatever I’ve even taken it apart and weighed it out, but ill generally use that or CCIs at the range and save my original Power Points for showing off 😂. It’s by far the best rimfire I’ve ever owned. With the right glass those guns will perform phenomenally. Just an extremely accurate fun freakin gun.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 3 ай бұрын
cool. thanks for watching.
@schuwar
@schuwar 6 ай бұрын
Funny. Used Remington Nylon66 I bought , with open sights and cheap ammo from S&B makes like the best group on 50 meters.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 6 ай бұрын
Glad you found something that works! Cheers.
@scottnj2503
@scottnj2503 Жыл бұрын
Yes, a well built 10/22 with good components can be/is a competitive precision rifle. Recently I built a Kidd Inovations based 10/22 clone. Yields consitent MOA or less groups at 100 yards. Have yet to go 200 or 300yards. But have confidence as long as wind isn't too great a factor.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
cool thanks for commenting.
@jdsolberg7613
@jdsolberg7613 4 ай бұрын
Saw a video where a guy torqued that screw at 10, 20 & 30 inch lbs. and got different groups at each torque setting.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 4 ай бұрын
Yes. That absolutely makes a difference.
@RimfireSS
@RimfireSS Жыл бұрын
Hi Joel, I’ve been having some issues with SK rifle match lately. Lots of fliers and underpowered rounds. Love your channel.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! SK usually does pretty well for me, but I might have to admit that Eley shoots consistently better. 🤦🏻‍♂️
@RimfireSS
@RimfireSS Жыл бұрын
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork lol, I think it depends on the day of the week it was made, what rifle your shooting it through, how bad the wind is and how much coffee you drank before you shot it. These damn rifles are like Women, finicky and you can never spend enough on them!
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
@@RimfireSS 😂 truth
@matthewjones5450
@matthewjones5450 Жыл бұрын
three years ago i bought a tactial solutions carbon fiber barrel for a new build added a hough stock a kidd bolt a sweet 22 scope and the best groupe i got from that rifle was a inch and a half group at fifty yards i tried 11 diffarent brands of 22lr i bought a boyds stock nada i put the new rugger bolt back in it nope i putt the kidd bolt back and the new never fired ruger barrel in it and it shot dime sized groupd at fifty when i called tactical the rep said not there problem i will never recomend their products that barrel cost 300 bucks after shipping i bought a green mouintain barrel for hundred bucks it shot 1/4 inch at fifty with bulk fedrial hp
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
yeah I'm finding similar results. Not a very good barrel.
@pdkiernan5
@pdkiernan5 Жыл бұрын
The stock forged barrel is more accurate than the tactical solutions barrel, and ER Shaw barrels are more accurate than both of those.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard good things about Shaw.
@pdkiernan5
@pdkiernan5 Жыл бұрын
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork Tactical solutions are great for a lightweight race gun, but not for precision target shooting.
@mmgee
@mmgee 11 ай бұрын
In a semi auto, there’s SK Lapua, and Norma, and little else (for me) nice vid 👍
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 11 ай бұрын
Cool, thanks
@keithfreeman5204
@keithfreeman5204 2 ай бұрын
My "International" shoots the CCI SV 40gn RN, best accuricity. #2 ammo is the Mini Mag 36gnHP. The CCI Mini Mag 40 gn RN is good accuricity and and a bit Hotter.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
sounds good. thanks for watching and commenting.
@bryanherman8601
@bryanherman8601 2 ай бұрын
You should run groups with and without the suppressor…
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
Yep I agree, I should have.
@Yahweh-Chase-Bella
@Yahweh-Chase-Bella Жыл бұрын
I like that original stock. Kinda reminds me of the Marlin 450 I had to hunt with as a kid my dad got me. Unfortunately sold it during some bad times and pray I can get another eventually but they're not that east to come across and the newer marlin wasn't the same. I'll probably have to end up getting a Henry of some kind
@Mutt69m
@Mutt69m 8 ай бұрын
The KRG Stock looks good, but I prefer the Thumb Hole stock over the KRG, just my preference...
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 8 ай бұрын
Cool. Thanks for the comment.
@josephpeters2367
@josephpeters2367 8 ай бұрын
Magnum research is a one stop shop on having a complete competitive 10/22 style rifle 😊
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip.
@perrym6937
@perrym6937 Жыл бұрын
i thought the 10/22 could work but have since changed my mind. it seems i always shoot a better score with a bolt action
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
Facts. Most people can’t shoot semiautomatic as well as they can bolt action.
@michaelbonanno9491
@michaelbonanno9491 Жыл бұрын
If you want accuracy I would suggest pulling that suppressor off. they collect carbon and when you carry the rifle with the muzzle pointed up, carbon can fall back down into the bore and effect accuracy. If you are trying to mess with barrel harmonics then get a barrel tuner.
@sbcbaits994
@sbcbaits994 Жыл бұрын
What kind of fuddlore is this? 😂😂😂
@stevenhendry6513
@stevenhendry6513 11 ай бұрын
The reason 22 target rifles are bolt/single shot is the bolt thrust when fired is consistent. A semi-auto recoils to work the action-it is not 100% consistent in recoil/movement of the bolt----using green tag cci helps as the ignition is more consistent, but is not a miracle maker-the fact is most people cannot shoot well enough to reach the full potential of the rifle-Buy a true target rifle and be amazed-shoot the eye out of a fly.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment
@5stargunsandgear
@5stargunsandgear Жыл бұрын
I have competed against high end Anschutz, and other custom bolt guns and own some my self BR comp shooting buy I have won many matches with a 10/22 With a quality match barrel, trigger in a proper stock, Barrel Tunner with bloop tube and a rock solid tourney rest a good 10/22 will surprise you. If you do not know how to properly setup and tune one then they are average shooters. And not all barrels are created equal. Also shooting match quality ammo is a MUST for someone serious. I have 3 Match 10/22s and have one that just will outshoot my Begara and Anschutz consistently. Why that 1 its the barrel.All things the same swap barrels then both my Anshutz and Begara will smoke it. It has a SS Snake Fluted Volquartsen and its the only one out of three 10/22 all will Volquartsens that finds a hamony shooting Eley match ammo and shines.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
I have definitely seen them shoot well, but every single time it's because the owner put a ton of money into it to get it to do that. I guess that was my point with this video...at what point do you just spend the money initially to buy a custom bolt action and be done with it?
@5stargunsandgear
@5stargunsandgear Жыл бұрын
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork your absolutely correct it takes a lot of time and money to get them that accurate and a bolt gun would be the same or cheaper in the end.
@bobjimenez4464
@bobjimenez4464 2 ай бұрын
I have a 10-22 that was made in 1976 (bicentennial ). I'd like to trick it out but hesitate because it might be collectible.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I’d probably leave that one alone if it was me. You can find a cheap 10/22 second hand from a lot of stores. Trick out the used one. 👍
@heliarc4338
@heliarc4338 Жыл бұрын
Man I have had my 10/22 since 1987 got it for Xmas that year
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
They are super fun rifles!
@JT-py9lv
@JT-py9lv Жыл бұрын
Federal Ultra-match UM22 (no longer made) shoots sub-moa for me all day long. The Gold Medal stuff was not as good for me.
@joeltowle2737
@joeltowle2737 Жыл бұрын
Did you season the bore with the ammo before shooting on paper? That might help too!
@charlesgutzwiller5988
@charlesgutzwiller5988 Жыл бұрын
The wind is moving the target some
@Whitchhunter666
@Whitchhunter666 Жыл бұрын
Be sure safety is "centered" before pulling it out to not do damage to stock
@bobpena1490
@bobpena1490 Жыл бұрын
Nice 10/22 build ..mine has a 28 inch green mountain barrel shoot real nice ..
@macgyver5108
@macgyver5108 Жыл бұрын
GM makes some awesome barrels, and that 28" one is no joke! Super quiet too.
@douglash.8862
@douglash.8862 Жыл бұрын
My 20" Green Mtn SS sporter Barrel with, a Lil' Crow Gunworks, Recoil Lug ( Glass Bedded ) in, a "Sporter" Ruger Walnut stock,.. shoots Awesome ( .3's and .4's at 50 yards) with, SK and Wolf, Match Extra, ammo. I have also done, a Volquartzen Trigger Job at, 2.25 Pounds and have a 4.5 X 14 Burris scope. Slightly Used Rifle and ALL parts / Scope for,.. a Total of $850
@jimjones5633
@jimjones5633 Жыл бұрын
I would say that even if your wooden stock does not shoot any better as far as looks goes I would switch back to the wooden stock I think it is 100% better looking than that can stock which looks cheap I would stick with the other one all day
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
I agree, the wood looks better. The issue is adjustability. The KRG can be better tuned to my length of pull and cheek height.
@katana258
@katana258 Жыл бұрын
yep the new one sucks christ its just a very low power .22lr .these 22 shooter s are all wimps looking to play big boy center fire ..never see them shoot .17hmr at 2600fps and 300 yards + ..
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
@@katana258 i would say you haven’t been looking hard enough. 22LR beyond 300y is very common now.
@IrishKnacker
@IrishKnacker Жыл бұрын
@@katana258 🤣 okay kiddo. Tell me you haven't a clue without telling me.
@fredfernald8016
@fredfernald8016 Жыл бұрын
@@katana258 like lobbing tiny little cannons in a big arc down range. This concept must have come from rifle accessory manufacturers and ammo makers.😂😂😂😂😂
@mohammedcohen
@mohammedcohen 10 ай бұрын
...I've got brown laminate version of that stock - bought it waay back in the 90s...
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 10 ай бұрын
yeah mine's old too. I like it. It's nice to the touch and it looks good. Was just time to make a change. Thanks for watching.
@mohammedcohen
@mohammedcohen 10 ай бұрын
...I think that at the time I bought it, it was a Fajen stock...@@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@eerbilly5187
@eerbilly5187 Жыл бұрын
Similar results with Federal Gold Medal Match...CCI Green Tag even worse...Eley Match & Tenex is all I shoot at this point.
@couespursuit7350
@couespursuit7350 Жыл бұрын
Steps to upgrade a Ruger 10/22 STEP 1 Sell the Ruger 10/22 STEP 2 Buy a barreled action from KIDD STEP 3 Buy KIDD trigger, bolt, springs etc and instal in your KIDD barreled action STEP 4 mount KIDD rifle in a quality stock of your choice STEP 5 mount up a sufficiently decent scope.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
LOL understood
@couespursuit7350
@couespursuit7350 Жыл бұрын
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork Could not help but not say, glad it amused you.
@Latinrimfire72
@Latinrimfire72 7 ай бұрын
My Ruger 1022 LVT groups 1/4” or less with Eley Match……Good Stuff
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@boostismagic
@boostismagic Ай бұрын
You were freezing 🥶 That was some wizardry at 15:26 Disappearing hole?
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Ай бұрын
It’s the long shot camera system glitching. It tries to track shots and sometimes registers them in the wrong place. Not ideal.
@coyotiess
@coyotiess Жыл бұрын
I want to do this now! THANKS!
@artfulalias3984
@artfulalias3984 Жыл бұрын
The factory barrels aren't bad. Hammer forged on a mandrel, they can be pretty good. Generally have to get pretty spend-y to beat them. There is A LOT of paid review marketing telling us a barrel swap is the first thing to do. So you might find my opinion in the minority. But proper bedding is more important. Bedding can turn a dog into a real shooter even in the factory wood stock. A pencil barrel might look out of place in a chassis though.
@VoffkaGomel
@VoffkaGomel 2 ай бұрын
So, you left only with receiver from the initial build. Maybe... plus receiver and you get totally new rifle in addition to the one you had?
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 ай бұрын
I’m sorry I don’t understand your question.
@michaelbonanno9491
@michaelbonanno9491 Жыл бұрын
Well I think your crazy, I went to my 1st benchrest match and shot against only bolt action rifles and I took 3rd place. The only upgrades i have is a ER Shaw barrel. some trigger work and cleaned the bolt. I used Ealey tennex and Ealey Match. And she shot pretty good. My next upgrade will be a KIDD bolt.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
haha you've made some serious upgrades. of course it shot well.
@michaelbonanno9491
@michaelbonanno9491 Жыл бұрын
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork I wouldn't call them serious upgrades. I didn't put in a custom trigger, I didn't change the bolt, It's a stock receiver, stock chassis. A 125.00 barrel and smoothing the stock trigger isn't serious upgrades.
@billwiley7216
@billwiley7216 Жыл бұрын
You want to shoot competition with a 10/22 just buy the Kidd super grade from the start and save yourself a lot of headaches if you want to try to be competitive.
@langleyj8199
@langleyj8199 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, the video I was looking for.
@PlayingWithFireOutdoors
@PlayingWithFireOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Absolutely it can. My 10/22 is from a former F Class national champ. It's a heavy barreled model 01262, with the bolt carrier and action polished.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
cool, thanks for watching.
@chrisstorozhenko6579
@chrisstorozhenko6579 6 ай бұрын
Would be interesting to see the same test with a better trigger!
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 6 ай бұрын
agree, unfortunately I don't have this rifle anymore. thanks for watching.
@Sha16rad11
@Sha16rad11 4 ай бұрын
Get a Kidd 1022 if you are wanting accuracy! They are Legit! Would love to see a video
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 4 ай бұрын
I’ve heard they’re excellent.
@4catsnow
@4catsnow Жыл бұрын
My first one had a few refinements...leading to 5 CCI standards in 1/4 inch at 50 yards on a good day...Stock gun, right out of the box,, don't expect a lot...
@smsgtbulldog
@smsgtbulldog Жыл бұрын
What scope jig are you using at the 5:00 minute mark? It looks very handy!!!
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
It's called the Dead Level from Badger Ordnance
@takinisurvivalchannel3812
@takinisurvivalchannel3812 Жыл бұрын
Well there is a semi-auto division in PRS Rimfire competitions now. So...
@waynemanning3262
@waynemanning3262 Жыл бұрын
Th big question is why? Just start with a better rifle to begin with! If you want a more accurate rifle then start with a savage or cz, and if you want even better then buy a competition rifle
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
I personally agree, but I make videos for every budget if that makes sense.
@waynemanning3262
@waynemanning3262 Жыл бұрын
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork it’s fun to trick out a 10/22 with cool stuff but by the time your into a high end barrel,stock,trigger group and the other essentials your beyond the price of a CZ or savage that are out of the box accurate or a good used competition rifle. 10/22’s are great for blasting off a brick of ammo and that’s why I sold mine! You tend to just keep pulling the trigger till it’s empty!
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
@@waynemanning3262 haha you’re not wrong.
@josereyes13111
@josereyes13111 Жыл бұрын
Hello, what was the brand and model for the original stock?! Really like the look of it Thanks
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
Email me, I’ll sell you mine. Joel@precisionriflenetwork.com I think it’s made by Boyds.
@josereyes13111
@josereyes13111 Жыл бұрын
I'm in Canada, would it ship over here?!
@georgecolee7663
@georgecolee7663 Жыл бұрын
Send that barreled action with trigger to Randy at CPC. For $250 he cut my groups in half even Aguila super extra ammo shoots better then what I saw there. With CCI standard it shoots 10 shot 1/2” groups and 3/8” with green tag at 50yrds wearing a 3-9x scope nothing fancy. The gun isn’t picky at all it eats everything still. No parts get put in a box never to be used, he is a outstanding gunsmith that makes factory 10/22’s competitive for silhouette or whatever. Best money I’ve ever spent on a gun and got it back in less than a month too. I like the stock the gun needs some fine tuning is all. Cheers
@Howyoudoing98765
@Howyoudoing98765 5 ай бұрын
When you were shooting the bottom right target. You have a low right miss and on the next shot the hole was gone? Kinda strange
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 4 ай бұрын
It’s that camera system which has a shot tracking feature. Sometimes it flashes a shot on the screen and then it disappears or appears. It’s weird I agree.
@boblablaws4903
@boblablaws4903 11 ай бұрын
Cci 36g varmit out of a 10/22 with heavy barrel sr22. Flies at 50. Wasp at 100
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@CompShooter54
@CompShooter54 Жыл бұрын
For many years I shot 3 position rifle with Anshutz rifles and I think you can improve your groups with a better shooting position. You seem to be all cramped up and not looking through the center of your eye. If you have a more upright, relaxed position I'll bet your groups would improve.
@honesttroll
@honesttroll Жыл бұрын
Bottom right 2nd shot kinda weird glitch there
@ExergameStation
@ExergameStation Жыл бұрын
The whole point of the stock is for a rear tang.
@ThePewski
@ThePewski Жыл бұрын
I have a late 70's 10/22 I refinished and put a cheap walmart scope on and shoots 1/2" MOA with ELEY ammo. Pulled it out after a year in the safe, same ammo, same results. Still haven't cleaned it. Just a classic .22LR. I even have the Tasco oval scope it came with still. If you don't mind saving me some research time, how much would your set up run a guy?
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
The KRG Bravo is $350ish. Tactical solutions Barrel was around $250 maybe?? It’s been a long time. The Leupold scope is $1800.
@ThePewski
@ThePewski Жыл бұрын
@PrecisionRifleNetwork oof, that's alot of scope for 50yrds, lol. Thank you for replying.
@ThePewski
@ThePewski Жыл бұрын
I think it would be cool to use my factory rifle and then use the mods to see how much of a difference in accuracy and consistency. That would be alot of fun!
@ThePewski
@ThePewski Жыл бұрын
@PrecisionRifleNetwork do you think brand of barrel makes that much of a difference? Seems to favor type of ammo, quality ammo versus cheap ammo. What am I asking, consistent loaded ammo, better results?
@ThePewski
@ThePewski Жыл бұрын
@@bendayhoe5199 Could be a tough day with no wind! LOL
@TheGoatMumbler
@TheGoatMumbler Жыл бұрын
Big 10/22 fan. But really. Just buy a basic Tikka T1X and do the same changes and you'll be a ton happier for PRS. The Ruger ain't really made for that IMO.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
I agree
@mnrodriguez
@mnrodriguez 9 ай бұрын
Excellent video!
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 9 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@farleyjj1
@farleyjj1 Жыл бұрын
Using a torque wrench to loosen screws is not recommended.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@rangerdanger126
@rangerdanger126 10 ай бұрын
Did you ever get this thing to group? Did you do the torque tuning? Did you try longer ranges?? I just ordered a 10/22 Competition, so can't wait to see how it does from 50 out to 200 yards. Rangers... Lead the Way!
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 10 ай бұрын
I sold this particular rifle. let me know how your competition rig performs.
@swyoung69
@swyoung69 Жыл бұрын
My 1022 with old Tacsol barrel, Volquartsen trigger kit(3lbs), X22 Magpul stock, and shooting CCI standard velocity, i got .4 inch at 50yds. Im kinda surprised at your results with seemingly much better ammo. My 1022 shoots tighter than my RPRimfire at the moment, testing ammo right now.
@CompShooter54
@CompShooter54 Жыл бұрын
My best groups with my Tacsol barrel is with CCI STD is also the best, with about .4 as well. I'm really happy that bit hates the expensive stuff.
@swyoung69
@swyoung69 Жыл бұрын
@@CompShooter54 nice! Im happy with it...then i saw Pursuit of Accuracy's review on the Kidd Supergrade, now im going to save for one of those!
@xringkiller
@xringkiller Жыл бұрын
I’ve always been told not to use my torque wrench to loosen anything as it will throw off its calibration. I don’t know if it’s true or not.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
Hmm I’ve never heard that but I suppose it could be a thing.
@theunofficialresults231
@theunofficialresults231 Жыл бұрын
Those groups are what I'm getting out of my Volquartsen THM carbon barrel, except for the last group. It sucks. Is your barrel fully free floated in that chassis? I am searching for answers and a few have said there needs to be a pressure point near the end of the stock, or even fully bedded to the end of the stock. My reciever to barrel fit was very tight, I had to heat up the reciever to install, so I don't think that is where my issues are. Still searching, why I'm here!
@asknight
@asknight Жыл бұрын
Was that red loctite on the scope base screws?
@tominmo8865
@tominmo8865 Жыл бұрын
Lots of good comments here. Very true about optimizing the action screw torque. -- I have a 1995 10/22 Target with the original hammer-forged barrel and its nice wood stock. Rather heavy. I had the Ruger bolt redone by CPC (Connecticut Precision Chambering), and installed the Kidd recoil spring and guide rod and the Kidd "Trigger Job" drop-in trigger kit. So for the gun + about $180 I have a 0.5 MOA gun at 100 yards. No kidding, pardon the pun. ;-) Shot two 5-shot groups at 100 yards with SK Pistol Match Special. First group was .70". Second was .50". Decided to not shoot any more groups as I was ecstatic with that result. This 10/22 humiliates all my bolt-action 22s, including two nice CZs. -- Strongly recommend you send your barreled action to CPC for the full tuneup. Bolt, trigger and barrel. THE best bang-for-buck in 10/22 improvement, IMO. You will love the improvement. Also IMO, what stock the action is in is the last consideration, to be done after all other mods are made. BTW the scope on the 10/22 for the above two groups was a $60 Chinese scope off Amazon, set at 24X. I used a cheap bipod and a rear bag.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the comment. Thanks for watching.
@mikebeddingfield2144
@mikebeddingfield2144 Жыл бұрын
P.s. you should see the mini 14 i have
@jonasbruzas2651
@jonasbruzas2651 Жыл бұрын
nice video ,thanks mate.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
No problem 👍
@JJGuccione
@JJGuccione 4 ай бұрын
Why a 20 MOA rail for a 50-yard rifle?
@archer721
@archer721 Жыл бұрын
Wow! My all factory Ruger 10/22 target rifle shoots dime size groups with CCI Blazer... I think you have issue with your rifle.
@tommyroberts867
@tommyroberts867 Жыл бұрын
My Factory Ruger 10/22 will shoot with that gun. That's a lot of money for a gun that doesn't shoot any better than that
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
Right, that’s basically the point of this video. I’m not sure it’s worth it to put a bunch of money in a 10-22.
@danulman8837
@danulman8837 Жыл бұрын
In the last two NRL/PRS type 22 matches I’ve come in second and first place shooting against Voodoo, Bergera and CZ rifles and shooting to 200 yards. I’m shooting a 10/22 action with a Feddersen barrel in an Archangel stock. I wish I could post my picture of 10 shots at 50 yards with SK Long Range Match which is EASILY covered by a dime and will do that all day. Hate to say it but your barrel has never been known to be really accurate. The only barrels I currently own are Kidd and Feddersen-tried all the others……..
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
@@danulman8837 I agree. Literally all I said about this barrel is that it’s better than factory. I’m certain I could eventually spend enough money to make this thing hammer but I won’t be doing that.
@danulman8837
@danulman8837 Жыл бұрын
I got the receiver from a 70 dollar pawn shop purchase, the Feddersen barrel cost 170 bucks and the Archangel stock was 140 bucks. The most expensive single component of the rifle was the Kidd two stage trigger assembly that cost around 260 bucks at the time. I beat more than a few 1800 to 2200 dollar bolt guns in my last two matches….. on the discriminator timed stages used to split score ties, I absolutely kick their butts! 😎
@damingrail3655
@damingrail3655 Жыл бұрын
A 10/22 can be competitive. That is just not good results. I compete with 10/22 NRL22 stock Receiver and Bolt(Polished up), KIDD Trigger kit (2lbs), KIDD charging and springs, KIDD 20" Heavy SS target. Was in Boyd's At-one Last year This year upgraded to MDT Orxy. Oh yeah and Shooting SK STD Plus.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
I agree, they "can" be competitive, but you have to spend a lot of money to get them there. That was the point I was trying to make with this video. At what point do you just build a custom bolt action 22LR? Seems like it would be a better choice in the long run.
@damingrail3655
@damingrail3655 Жыл бұрын
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork To a point yes. But I did mine on a budget Piece By Piece. I worked with what I had. Where If I was going to drop a lump sum I would probably go with a Bolt gun alternative. But even with a Bolt If I started with a Base CZ.. You would go through the same process of upgrades. Stock, Trigger, Chassis.. So apples to apples.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork Жыл бұрын
@@damingrail3655 yep I suppose you're right. Thanks for watching.
@damingrail3655
@damingrail3655 Жыл бұрын
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork Love your stuff. Just watch. your short on the trigger test with Erik Cortina. 1oz trigger damn.. Strong breeze will set that off.
@Riley_1955
@Riley_1955 Жыл бұрын
Very nice video ..... Those were some pretty ugly groups up until the Eley match ...... That is a very nice looking stock ...... I built me a custom 10/22 last year and used the Victor Titan22 stock and it is an absolute keeper ...... If you put a KIDD barrel with a better trigger I think it would be a tack driver.
@MysticPrecision
@MysticPrecision Жыл бұрын
Can a 10/22 be competitive? Yes... proper bedding is critical. Good barrels, Lapua CenterX, tuner... no different then a bolt rifle.
@russr
@russr 10 ай бұрын
never had great accuracy from my tac-sol barrel....
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 10 ай бұрын
agree, they are not amazing from what I've seen.
@jonleone777
@jonleone777 Жыл бұрын
I really like the krg stock but have a question. Im left-handed and curious if that black knob can be moved to the othef side of the stock or is therd a smaller knob.
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