Can a true Christian have depression?

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@CherieDeDieu 4 жыл бұрын

I am a born again Christian suffering from what looks like depression. I do also have suicidal thoughts but my faith in God keeps me from acting on them. This is encouraging; thank you.

@annieoctavius352 4 жыл бұрын

Hey just read your comment. How are you feeling right now?

@rachelm9350 2 жыл бұрын

please go see medical help as well.

@alvinford6522 2 жыл бұрын

Shalom My brother you are not true Ps.119:165.

@alvinford6522 2 жыл бұрын

@@rachelm9350 wrong advice .Have you read the psalms exodus 16:26.

@nathanielshelnutt4321 2 жыл бұрын

@@alvinford6522 what's wrong with medical help????

@lsour8546 4 жыл бұрын

My dad was a Christian scholar and an extremely strong believer but he had severe depression. Don't let people tell you you're doing something wrong with your faith just because you have mental illness.

@metsot 2 жыл бұрын

Wise commenting.

@edwardhannahsamuel730 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely right it's an illness with a lot of people and no one who has never experience with this shouldn't make an assumption or opinion

@travishowett7651 2 жыл бұрын

It's a demon people. Cast it out!!!!

@lsour8546 2 жыл бұрын

@@travishowett7651 if by demon you mean neurotransmitter issues exacerbated by trauma you are correct.

@travishowett7651 2 жыл бұрын

@@lsour8546 no I mean cast out the demon and all becomes well. The Bible says he was clothed in his right mind. Who's mind was he in? Mark 5:15 15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.

@SaraiRivka 3 жыл бұрын

If I had a penny for everytime I was told I didn't have enough faith. Thank you for giving me a new perspective.

@samsung8310 2 жыл бұрын

Or when you’re told that it’s a spiritual issue and that perhaps one has opened spiritual doors and it’s demonic spirits, and that Christians shouldn’t be depressed and can be healed through deliverance

@alphaecho3875 Ай бұрын

@@samsung8310do you believe in demons? Spirits?

@samsung8310 Ай бұрын

@ yes evil spirits are demons and yes they are very real

@braveblackbird1935 Жыл бұрын

"Depression is the expression of a heart that is seeing accurately that this world is not the way that it should be." This blessed me

@Leokat334 Жыл бұрын

Oh that’s beautifully said.

@galilelollel9658 Жыл бұрын

Depression can also Happend when a human gets shocked extremly. Im one of them. I dont get it away and i have it since one and a half years now. Sure this World is Not for us but for the non belives but we all still have a purpose Here. Im Christian To and God removed it quite good but Theres still a Part of the Depression that doesnt Go and makes my day completly destroyed sometimes. So im sometimes doing Things i shouldnt do as a Christian To get some fun. I should Trust God completly but He only gives me so much Energy to keep myself on my feet but not to Change Things. God has His Plans but unless i cant understand or See them its Impossible for me to really Trust him 100% so im doing wrong Things that i hate to Balance the bad Feelings with the good ones.

@bethanyplatt3882 6 жыл бұрын

David is one that always springs to mind. He had depression; you can see this in the Psalms. But he always ended up focused on the Lord, and I love that you discussed this concept. “The joy of the Lord is our strength.” He didn’t promise an easy life, but He did promise His Spirit and His peace. ❤️

@notices_demons 5 жыл бұрын

David was a murdering psychopathic adulterer, he wasn't depressed he was a narcissistic egomaniac ya frigging dunce. Goddamn, you christ-worshipping-cult-members truly are deluded and have the most bizarre thought processes.

@SapphicSparky 5 жыл бұрын

Cryo Gyro why bring him down be respectful and explain your point of view also Job is the one that comes to my mind

@lionoffireministries 4 жыл бұрын

I was 5 years of chronic illness. Semi Housebound, lost my health, job, finances and my fiance left me. I couldn't even look at electronic screen for 5 minutes, or hold a 10-minute conversation. But God did an amazing work. And if he can do this, he can do it in you also. 😇🙏 I now have a Christian Channel where I encourage people and show them what God did in my life and that there is hope for you also. *Keep believing even when it's hard* 🙏❤️🙌🔥👆🏼 *All things are possible with God*

@gracetoglory5020 3 жыл бұрын

@@lionoffireministries thank you

@lionoffireministries 3 жыл бұрын

@@gracetoglory5020 you’re welcome and bless you. I actually made a documentary this week of a week in my life trust in God during such adversities. Feel free to have a look if you think it something that might interest you. And may God bless you in your faith journey 😊✝️

@ryknow-coversongs1601 5 жыл бұрын

This is the most salient response to Christian depression I have ever heard. I’ve had a suspicion for a long time that being happy and positive every single day after being saved is just not accurate. That hasn’t been my experience at all. While I love the Lord and trust that He will prevail over this world, living in this world as it stands currently can be overwhelming and depressing. For a long time, I believed my depression was a sign that I was falling away from God, simply because I wasn’t going out everyday with a smile and singing Christian songs in the street. This explanation makes absolute sense and is encouraging to me. I can see now that depression is almost inevitable if you can truly see the stark difference between what we know about the future with God and what we’re living with every day in the world. I used to attend a church where there were a lot of people who lived very comfortably, had amazing lifestyles, and lived without a care in the world. That was not my experience. I wonder how many Christians who claim to live depression-free are simply hiding behind a lavish lifestyle that insulates them from the reality of a truly broken world.

@elfchick2264 5 жыл бұрын

I completely understand and agree. This video cut right to the heart of it as well as your comment! 😇

@patriciaingle4544 5 жыл бұрын

Amen. I thought i was wrong for feeling this way but you explained this perfectly.

@tesnb 5 жыл бұрын

Depression dosent exist. I'm going to tell you a story about myself that happened in the span of two days. In. The first day I was severely depressed, and almost committed suicide. The next day, god helped me change my perspective. I got out of it.

@patriciaingle4544 5 жыл бұрын

Amen

@carolynsweet4019 4 жыл бұрын

I get so mad that my boyfriend pushes me to be happy, like fr this world is so horrible and he is always trying to get me to ignore the issues of this upside down world... he says it’s wrong to want to kill myself but I hate living in this world...it’s depressing and messed up... he’s always telling me to focus on the good things in life, but what about the wrong that we neglect??

@lenab.m.3708 6 жыл бұрын

I believe christians are often depressed , because we sense evil everywhere.. evil we can not change.

@kristen3715 5 жыл бұрын

everyone will eventually change mate. some take lomger than others. some die before they get a chance. but i assure you everyone and everything changes

@kristen3715 5 жыл бұрын

also i dont think there is really true "evil" or "good" side. can you give an example of evil?

@Jo_Es_Chess_Channel 5 жыл бұрын

We can change and chase whatever evil when God is with us

@cococolabrotherabsolutefather 5 жыл бұрын

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@Joshuaadrianjones 5 жыл бұрын

@@kristen3715 you need Jesus

@MrsMunyao 2 жыл бұрын

Am in a dark place right now... My mental health has been off and on.. Thank you for this encouraging video

@3rinityivysage292 Жыл бұрын

Hope you’re feeling better 💚 sending love and light 🙏

@wvjaybird5 Жыл бұрын

❤

@akinoluolusina Жыл бұрын

Beem 4 months since this comment. How are you doing lately?

@TheADDFiles-yk4dc Жыл бұрын

@@Arifumi_Cry out to God, my friend! He loves you more than you can ever imagine. Do you have a local Bible-believing church nearby? If so, reach out to the believers there and ask for help. Pray continually and read God’s Word. “Cast all your cares on him because he cares for you.” 1 Peter 5:7

@babycakesweetiepie77 Жыл бұрын

Hope you are doing better.

@quidquop Жыл бұрын

This is what I needed today. SO blessed that this came up in my feed. 64-years-old and have battled depression and anxiety since I was a little kid. Dealing with suicidal ideation, but would never actually take my own life. My house is a mess, I've packed on a bunch of pounds, and I rarely have any energy. Haven't been to church in months. Trying to break out of the cycle, but am not having much success. THANK YOU for addressing this! My love and prayers are going out to everyone who's suffering. Bless ALL of you, and hold fast to God's promises!

@leonesspoetess190 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you i have been told I cannot be depressed if im a true Christian

@joshipp761 6 жыл бұрын

I was told the same thing, now I know depression is very, real & more people suffer from it than they'd like to admit.

@berenc7619 5 жыл бұрын

@Evelyn Choy depression is an illness just like a heart problem , it can be brought on by physical or envi mental issues . It needs treatment like anyother illness . people in the Bible experienced depression , even Jesus , so stop being so quick to judge and condemn others who are experiencing depression .

@pgtips4240 5 жыл бұрын

@Evelyn Choy You haven't understood this guy, I have suffered depression for years and this guy has really helped me. Don't despair, it's not anyone's fault, you need to try and understand what he is saying. It makes real sense to me. Jeremiah was called the weeping prophet, Elijah broke down with depression because he could not see the big picture. Job got depressed and said though He(God) slay me yet will I trust Him. Depression is an accurate emotion for the state of this fallen world. It all makes sense. Take care.

@pgtips4240 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video, the cause of my depression is part biological and psychological. This video has helped me because I look at the world and see it as all pointless, it's fallen, it's passing away and therefore pointless. We live, we die. The only thing that makes life bearable is because Jesus lives. It's because He lives, I can face tomorrow. You are totally right, God's light is the brightest in the dark places, the valleys. I get what you are saying about depression being an accurate emotion of the state of this world but what helped me is when you said Jesus is going to fix it. The fact that one day Jesus is going to destroy all the evil and we shall be changed makes this world tolerable because God is on the throne. Thanks, this somehow made much sense to me.

@pgtips4240 5 жыл бұрын

@Evelyn Choy The suffering never feels good but God allowes it to happen to His children sometimes. The bible says ALL things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. Depression and other hardships can most definitely produce good. The pinnacle being that Jesus suffered on the cross, it was a horrible thing for Jesus to endure but through His suffering and death a lot of good came ie the destruction of the works of the devil and redemption of the people of God.

@TheRachelMaria 9 ай бұрын

3:11 Depression is invisible, subjective, controversial, and most difficult to define. I appreciate most of what he’s saying in terms of processing depression and recognizing Christians can indeed have it. However, I don’t agree that it’s a “response” to “feeling disappointed” to a broken world or anything. That’s called grief and sadness. Jesus was a Man of sorrows acquainted with grief but depression can be a physiological handicap in which an individual has no drive or motivation to do anything. That was not Jesus. I believe the difference for us is unlike Jesus WE have sin and a history of sin and strongholds etc that allow us to be oppressed. And yes even as Christians with the authority to receive healing CAN STILL SUFFER with it as Paul did and described it as The thorn in his side. I struggle with depression but I don’t let it rule me. It is the thorn in my side (along with endometriosis throughout my reproductive years) that was never healed. But it has kept me humble and I know the good Lord has used it for my good. ❤️🙏 I long for the day in which there will be no more suffering. Praise God.

@TaxingIsThieving 3 ай бұрын

You're right, in fact it would be blasphemous to say Jesus was depressed. He was too busy helping others to think of himself. But the emotion sadness isn't a sin.

@michellecisneros3191 5 жыл бұрын

As a person who is suffering from leukemia, and suffered from addiction, this hit so close to home. Love this! ❤❤❤

@mahlatsimoroka1500 4 жыл бұрын

Are you okay 🙏🙏🙏🙏

@nonami_066xswqoqowiwl 4 жыл бұрын

Sweetie , you’ll be alright

@jesusdeity2010 4 жыл бұрын

Be healed in Jesus name. Leukemia die! You Live! Gen 1:27. "And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority". That got lost through the fall of man. But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us. The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said: "If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc". It is in John 14 up to 17. It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word. Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body. Completely normal btw. In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is. Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced. God has come full circle! "As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18 The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit. Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day. Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love. "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit." 2 Corinthians 3:17‭-‬18 AMP

@nelly1094 2 жыл бұрын

@@jesusdeity2010 AMEN❣️

@MihaelaMuntean 5 жыл бұрын

The promise: "the Lord is my light" is most precious from a place of darkness. Thank you for this video.

@feeltheforce10 4 жыл бұрын

The " Lord " is Yahweh - you must NEVER worship this evil being.Yahweh was the evil cruel God of Israel and is NOT God !!!!! Please be careful with all this.

@jesusdeity2010 4 жыл бұрын

@@feeltheforce10 Gen 1:27. "And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority". That got lost through the fall of man. But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us. The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said: "If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc". It is in John 14 up to 17. It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word. Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God, God manifested on earth in a human body. Period. Completely normal btw. In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the fuzz Jesus being the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is. Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced. God has come full circle! "As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18 The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit. Because your imams never understood this, they mock, scoff, put it down, contradict it.... leading you away from your true identity in God. Heartbreaking. Same happens in Christianity btw. Most Christians think it is about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day. Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love. "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed into His image from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit." 2 Corinthians 3:17‭-‬18 AMP Thank you God for stopping down in Christ. Now we see what life is all about. Thank you for your Spirit in us that transforms us back to Gen 1:27. The image of Christ. Walking in unselfish divine power and love. You are so amazing!

@feeltheforce10 4 жыл бұрын

@@jesusdeity2010 Sadly that story is not true - its the theology writers translation.Totally false.I am glad i have learnt the true meaning of the scriptures.God was never in the ancient texts - it was ELOHIM.Theology writers added the word God as a concept.ELOHIM is a plural word - they are many and they are not God.We are manufactured in their image and likeness .The Adam and Eve story we all know is false and totally different to the ancient texts. There is no original sin - its not in the Bible - its been invented to control the masses. Eternity is also not in the Bible - OLAM is the Hebrew word wrongly translated as eternity - on and on the false story goes.I suggest you search deeper for the real story - i wasted 7 years believing in it all. The Lord in the Old testament was Yahweh - a God to Israel and its people only. An evil murdering being who was assigned to the family of Jacob and is one of the ELOHIM who established Israel.A God of war - all the Psalms are war poems and songs devoted to Yahweh in the battle to establish Israel. Creation from nothing is also not in the Bible but wrongly translated to give the concept of " God ".BARA is the Hebrew word wrongly translated as meaning to create from nothing.Creation was already here - the deception goes on and on. Virgin birth is false - Germany in 2017 removed it from their Bibles and added the correct term Young woman. Red Sea and the parting is false - no miracle from " God ". Moses walked through the Sea Of Reeds - which is a real sea and shallow and can be walked through in parts. Study Mauro Biglino and his teachings - an ex Bible translator who gives the real translations - not man made theology stories.

@ΤΛΣΤ 2 жыл бұрын

@@feeltheforce10 comedy gold, haha

@spencerphillips2658 Ай бұрын

For me, I’m not sure if I’m depressed or not. But I feel like mine stems from discontent and pride. I feel like I deserve to be noticed by people, and when I’m not, it wrecks me. Praying for y’all as y’all battle this trial. Christ is sufficient and I need to be reminded of that everyday.

@noreiyamu5275 19 күн бұрын

I’ll pray for you! Jesus loves you

@joshipp761 6 жыл бұрын

I really appreaciated the part about "failed hope", based on expectations

@Justsayingthat 4 жыл бұрын

Love that part. Best way to explain how I feel

@l3ender15 6 жыл бұрын

I thought this video did a fantastic job of describing the reality of living in a broken world--one that knows and fully understands a future glory and redemption, yes; but being held in limbo until awaiting a perfect eternity.

@sodiumchloride7472 5 жыл бұрын

Exactly!!!

@trentrossdale638 5 жыл бұрын

Beautifully said.

@jesusdeity2010 4 жыл бұрын

It is here. Gen 1:27. "And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority". That got lost through the fall of man. But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us. The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said: "If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc". It is in John 14 up to 17. It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word. Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body. Completely normal btw. In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is. Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced. God has come full circle! "As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18 The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit. Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day. Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love. Even if you don't feeeeel Him, He's working. He is as close as the mention of His name. You live IN Him and He is IN you. "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit." 2 Corinthians 3:17‭-‬18 AMP

@bjbanisin6513 6 жыл бұрын

Well I am a Christian a true Christian for 13 years and I've been dealing with depression since I was 9 years old and I take medication for it.

@q2lover58 5 жыл бұрын

Well Im depressed and in emotional instability since I was born and im 15 rn soo... Im on the edge of suiciding

@mellowz._ 5 жыл бұрын

The Da'ga Bro don’t it’s not worth it your life is valued by your family, and even though I don’t know you, me. I value your life and believe that you should push forward. If you cant for yourself, please for those that love you

@q2lover58 5 жыл бұрын

@Dove Dove Well at least I felt like that at the beginning, now everything feels just common to me, I cant think of any reason why he doesnt help me. Without Him and this commitment,I feel more free and do whatever I want, as free as I am, I still do feel like as if Im doing something wrong by not following Him...

@cococolabrotherabsolutefather 5 жыл бұрын

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@Dragonblack90 5 жыл бұрын

@@angeldustsprinkles5186 You are so true. She twist the bible to fit her own agenda.

@Pandaface24 6 жыл бұрын

This video brought me to tears because I relate to this so closely. Thank you for this.

@emmanuelmelendez23 4 жыл бұрын

jamie-lee smith I’m totally in the same boat!!

@suncity8373 4 жыл бұрын

yes Exactly the same. 🙏

@jesusdeity2010 4 жыл бұрын

Change has come. Gen 1:27. "And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority". That got lost through the fall of man. But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us. The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said: "If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc". It is in John 14 up to 17. It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word. Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body. Completely normal btw. In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is. Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced. God has come full circle! "As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18 The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and spirit. Same happens in Christianity btw. Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day. Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love. "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit." 2 Corinthians 3:17‭-‬18 AMP

@jesusdeity2010 4 жыл бұрын

@@suncity8373 Change has come. Gen 1:27. "And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority". That got lost through the fall of man. But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us. The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said: "If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc". It is in John 14 up to 17. It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word. Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body. Completely normal btw. In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is. Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced. God has come full circle! "As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18 The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit. Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day. Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love. "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit." 2 Corinthians 3:17‭-‬18 AMP

@hereisgone775 3 жыл бұрын

Jamie-lee smith. Im here for you.. When everything is made to be broken i just want you to know who i am.

@juliebabet2394 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you soooo much for this clarification. I have lost the pleasure of doing things I usually love the most, I cry a lot, I have mood swings and being in service at Church I felt guilty abt my condition, until this vid where the concepts of joy and hope and depression have been cleared out. Thank you. Be blessed!

@d.o.c.cmusic 5 жыл бұрын

U made me cry hearing this man. God bless u brother. Thanks Dr. Pierre!

@jennamicheleable 5 жыл бұрын

I am so encouraged. PRAISE GOD!!!! Thank you God!!

@domsdebt3450 2 жыл бұрын

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@76endurathon 11 ай бұрын

I been severe depression for decades and i been Christian with good faith and working faith for 25 years; I live for the life to come, not this world which will pass away. I been out of work since 2005, I may never work again , but I hope to change things with faith, whether my depression will be here to stay and sever anxiety, it may just be the cross for me to bear.

@cecilspurlockjr.9421 3 жыл бұрын

We're not gonna b happy here.. We're not promised happiness but security n hope.. PRAISE HIS HOLY NAME JESUS who carries me through my depression everyday without fail.. Very good brother.. Good explanation.. Thank you for your dedication..

@markwitmer5498 5 жыл бұрын

Being depressed and having depression are VERY different things, despite the constant conflation. One is the absence of proper chemical balance in the brain while the other is actually feeling negative things- a person with depression may feel nothing at all.

@metsot 2 жыл бұрын

Your view on this is not supported by any facts. I don't know how you came up with this.

@courtneyreeves7605 2 жыл бұрын

@@metsot I think what he's saying is that there's a difference between clinical depression as a mental illness and being depressed as a temporary affliction. Someone that is clinically depressed doesn't feel that way as a response to outside circumstances. They feel that way because there is something wrong with the chemical structure of the brain. Therefore, the hope and peace that a normal person may feel internally even when they have feelings of depression doesn't necessarily exist for the clinically depressed. A normal person who is depressed because of the world around them has the ability to think "its okay because I know God is in control and one day he will wipe out all sadness and grief," and feel a sense of relief underneath the depression they feel. But someone that is clinically depressed doesn't feel that sense of relief knowing that God will come back and conquer all. There is no internal peace because the only internal feeling is depression. When the depression comes from inside of you instead of from outside circumstances, that sense of relief and peace underneath it all never comes.

@rachelm9350 2 жыл бұрын

@@metsot Yes it is. There is clinical depression which IS caused by medical problems in the brain. If you have had a major depression before you can have it again due to these chemicals having issues. The same goes for anxiety. You need medication.

@ajmaynard7986 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! I've been thinking something must be horribly wrong with me...you've explained it all and brought it together beautifully 💕

@TaxingIsThieving 3 ай бұрын

3:35 4:38 I love this guy. A truly compassionate Christian.

@jemimajanvier4706 4 жыл бұрын

This makes me feel so much better. I feel such shame, especially when I read the Bible because of how depressed I often feel. It’s not that I’m not thankful or that I don’t love God. The trauma just creates a cycle of negativity. God has carried me where I couldn’t go, I will trust in Him, and I will do it without a facade

@healbyveronica6132 3 жыл бұрын

This is so good because sometimes I can feel guilty when I feel overwhelmed and defeated. I thank God for this video. Thank you so much. Now I have a batter understanding of negative emotions.

@000001willy 6 жыл бұрын

I think your video is partly helpful in that you say that a Christian can be depressed. From personal experience as a practicing Christian I know what it is to be depressed. The onset of it began when I was in my late twenties working as an international development volunteer in Swaziland, Africa. Working in poor rural Africa be a challenge for someone with good mental health but it becomes so much more difficult when you become depressed. I think my depression was compounded by the effects of the anti-malarial drugs I was taking but I also believe that the chemistry of my brain was at fault in that it did not produce enough of the serotonin neurotransmitter associated with good mental health. Without it depression results. I also suffered from anxiety which was caused by a lack of norepinephrine the neurotransmitter that must be present in sufficient quantities to connect with the 5HT2 receptors in the brain. When it's not present at normal levels a person can experience anxiety, obsessive compulsive disorder, eating disorders like anorexia and bulimia. I just had anxiety. I worried about everything. It seemed impossible to think positive thoughts about everything in my personal life and everything about life. I spent 30 years in that state, suffering. Praying did not seem to help. Talk therapy with psychologists and psychiatrist only helped a little. Then I met a psychiatrist who convinced me that I should take a special anti-depression, anti-anxiety drug known as an SNRI anti-depressant, also known as a Seritonin - Norepinephrine Re-uptake Inhibitor which is designed to keep the levels of serotonin and norepinephrine high. This was something I had been opposed to for a long time, believing that I should be able to fix this problem on my own with God's help. I gave in and the drugs transformed my life. In a few months the depression and anxiety were gone, replaced by good mental health that has stayed that way for the past 14 years. My experience of depression and anxiety and my knowledge about their impact on mental health has made me more compassionate and given me the ability to provide support to others who are suffering. My Christian faith has strengthening. I now lead by example as a Christian and people recognise me for what I am.

@georgeolo Жыл бұрын

This is a really wonderful answer, it comforts me greatly - thank you Southern Seminary.

@anthonychurch4142 6 жыл бұрын

Helpful video, but perhaps a broadening of terms and clarification of what is depression would be useful. There was mention of the physiological or medical side, and that needs better articulation. What I'm hearing described here isn't DEPRESSION, but rather, melancholy, discouragement, sadness, fear, disappointment, or even disbelief. Depression, medically defined, can be more severe than those. Please, when using the word "depression", let's make sure we consider a greater range of language. It's easy to reinforce poor preconceptions and misconceptions of that term.

@MAashChick 6 жыл бұрын

Anthony Church thank you, when you hit clinical depression it's able to sustain itself without outside influences and the church doesn't do that good of a job of addressing the condition.

@H4KnSL4K 6 жыл бұрын

The title for this video post "Can a true Christian have depression?" doesn't match the what's shown inside the video, which is "Can a true Christian be depressed?". They're both addressed to some extent in the video, but they're not the same.

@steelmilkjug 6 жыл бұрын

Unhelpful statement... perhaps you need more personal experience with spiritual torture and mental illness. You say what you said simply because you've heard it spoken by people who themselves lack personal experience with spiritual torture and mental illness that there is an "over-application" of the term depression in our society, and not all sadness needs to be medically treated. Which is partly true. But if you had real, personal experience with such matters, as I do having Bipolar for 13 years, you would know how accurate this man's words are. His understanding of Depression is far greater than yours. All levels of despair, sadness, grief, and "depression" come from exactly what he said... a loss of what someone longed for. And Joy is the faithful presence of God and the confident hope He gives in a wonderful eternity.

@steelmilkjug 6 жыл бұрын

How do you know? Do you suffer from Depression or Mental illness? Because I have Bipolar and it was EXTREMELY helpful to me.

@VEEKHUB 6 жыл бұрын

I think what you think he should be saying is pursue happiness and use your pills well bla bla bla but it's beyond that and this is what he addressed faithfully... all those things come after.

@ragrag2063 4 жыл бұрын

You woke me up, on my depression, wow how God works, amazing, bless you, it's made me feel, good and realization I was asleep. Thank you so much. I will share this with others. God oh how you work in times of ones distress, is and will be praise and glory to our creator. X

@marouchan7820 6 жыл бұрын

I am suffering for depression for about 8 years now... This is helpful... Thank you

@zoomcloudmeetings6715 4 жыл бұрын

How are you doing now? I hope you're doing fine. God bless you always dear, stay strong in faith🙏

@jesusdeity2010 4 жыл бұрын

Perspective is key. Gen 1:27. "And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority". That got lost through the fall of man. But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us. The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said: "If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc". It is in John 14 up to 17. It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word. Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body. Completely normal btw. In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is. Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced. God has come full circle! "As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18 The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit. Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day. Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love. Even if you don't feeeeel Him, He's working. He is as close as the mention of His name. You live IN Him and He is IN you. "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit." 2 Corinthians 3:17‭-‬18 AMP

@conniekyom144 6 жыл бұрын

That was beautifully insightful and true. Thank you, this helped so much.

@jesusdeity2010 4 жыл бұрын

Gen 1:27. "And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority". That got lost through the fall of man. But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us. The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said: "If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc". It is in John 14 up to 17. It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word. Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body. Completely normal btw. In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is. Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced. God has come full circle! "As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18 The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit. Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day. Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love. Even if you don't feeeeel Him, He's working. He is as close as the mention of His name. You live IN Him and He is IN you. "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit." 2 Corinthians 3:17‭-‬18 AMP

@hereisgone775 3 жыл бұрын

I was so depressed but when i saw you ain't depress no more. ❤😊😘

@shaykay3075 5 жыл бұрын

I do not ever remember not being depressed, I decided not to take meds for my depression.I am saved and i have learned to deal with it. I know when i am going deep into it. I have also learned that God owes me nothing and no one else does , so my expectations are very low of others.I have no idea why i suffer from depression for so many years. God is the only reason i am able to cope. I can live a normal life with it.But i admit sometimes when i feel myself going into it too deep it becomes hard.

@roseonpoint4186 3 жыл бұрын

This is so interesting to me. I only recently started dealing with anxiety and depression. I can'timagine someone really living in this state for years. I pray for your healing.

@Al-NABIL-ISLAM. 3 жыл бұрын

Read Quran also

@Wanderer91 2 ай бұрын

pls. go to therapist

@DS-tp5dx 5 жыл бұрын

I am struggling through a situation that stems directly from false hope. I left the college I was at when it failed my expectations, and expected that having a job in the meantime would bring satisfaction until I go back to college. Thank you for the clarification you offer in this video!

@CEPrepper 4 жыл бұрын

I have felt exactly how he presents it, “if you believe in God, you should be joyous,” thinking that as blessed as I am, I must be ungrateful if I am depressed.

@michaelk6908 2 жыл бұрын

This is very good. Not heard this take on depression. Biblically based really helpful. Thank you.

@andthnwat Жыл бұрын

Ty this helped me so much. Struggled for 30+ years with depression. I know God wins, its just hard to be surrounded by so much ugliness. I will finish the race. I will keep the faith.

@titaPas 6 жыл бұрын

So helpful, I dont think I am experiencing depression but many people around me do, it’s been the best answer to the question I’ve ever heard.

@gregorykotoch5045 6 жыл бұрын

This guy, who ever he is always gives the most thoughtful answers. Someone from Southern Seminary, if you read this, give him a thank you from me.

@saraalpay9891 6 жыл бұрын

i have been feeling depressed this passed 2-3 days . i feel it often.i thought it is nor normal for a christian to feel depressed. it was very helpful to listen to this message.

@jesusdeity2010 4 жыл бұрын

Right perspective is key. Gen 1:27. "And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority". That got lost through the fall of man. But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us. The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said: "If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc". It is in John 14 up to 17. It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word. Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body. Completely normal btw. In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is. Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced. God has come full circle! "As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18 The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit. Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day. Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love. Even if you don't feeeeel Him, He's working. He is as close as the mention of His name. You live IN Him and He is IN you. "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit." 2 Corinthians 3:17‭-‬18 AMP

@adreanefoster9912 5 жыл бұрын

When he recited that first verse, tears just started falling because I was absolutely in that place but this was so insightful and he pinpointing my exact feelings. I am so so appreciative for this topic and grateful to God, The Almighty Counselor, for giving you these blessed word to share.

@jesusdeity2010 4 жыл бұрын

@alvinford6522 2 жыл бұрын

Ps.119:165.

@VicGeorge2K6 4 жыл бұрын

I think of Proverbs 13:12, where it says hope deferred can make a heart sick, but when the desire is fulfilled, it becomes a tree of life. I think what makes us depressed most of the time is when we hang onto a hope that is delayed so long that it can affect our whole being, like a person desiring to be married and not finding the right person (or God not delivering the right person when we think we should have the right person).

@nostrilcake 4 жыл бұрын

I love my lord & appreciate him beyond words, but all this pain & agony feels like too much at times. I will keep my faith & love for him. I will fight for my salvation. God is the only way.

@jesusdeity2010 4 жыл бұрын

News for you. Gen 1:27. "And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority". That got lost through the fall of man. But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us. The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said: "If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc". It is in John 14 up to 17. It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word. Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body. Completely normal btw. In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is. Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced. God has come full circle! "As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18 The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit. Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day. Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love. Even if you don't feeeeel Him, He's working. He is as close as the mention of His name. You live IN Him and He is IN you. "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit." 2 Corinthians 3:17‭-‬18 AMP

@curiousgeorge555 3 жыл бұрын

This is the most well thought out, scriptural treatment of this question that I have come across. 40 years being a Christian that struggles with depression (mostly dysthymia).

@Onalenna_Thobega 4 жыл бұрын

This is soooooo good and encouraging. I’d been having depressive episodes for a while now. Thanks for sharing on a failed hope. That we put our hope in wrong things than God. Thank you so much

@jesusdeity2010 4 жыл бұрын

@alvinford6522 2 жыл бұрын

Ps 119:165

@mpumi6830 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you... I needed this. Thank you, Father for the men and women you put in place to nudge us back to the path we've strayed from.

@jesusdeity2010 4 жыл бұрын

Amen! Perspective! Gen 1:27. "And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority". That got lost through the fall of man. But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us. The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said: "If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc". It is in John 14 up to 17. It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word. Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body. Completely normal btw. In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is. Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced. God has come full circle! "As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18 The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit. Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day. Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love. Even if you don't feeeeel Him, He's working. He is as close as the mention of His name. You live IN Him and He is IN you. "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit." 2 Corinthians 3:17‭-‬18 AMP Jesus thank you for loving us, changing us and making us walk just like you, by your Spirit. In unselfish divine power and love. You are so amazing!

@josephokonofua4289 5 жыл бұрын

I'm showing this video to my brothers because I knew there was something so natural about depression. It would help them. God bless you

@christopherkimura2233 Жыл бұрын

Helps so much brother. Thank you brother that I can get rid of my expectation that if I have any unhappiness I am a failed Christian. it actually removes some of the heavy load knowing this.

@devaunramsey923 2 жыл бұрын

This explanation has helped me and encouraged me greatly this week. I’ve been going through an inexplicable bout of depression, as a Christian who finds joy and hope in Jesus, I was disenchanted by my experience. Although I’m still having my moments, I’m encouraged to know what I’m going through is normal and, expected to some degree. Thank you

@Atomikbomb444 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I also have low serotonin and I think I'm pretty prone to being spiritually attacked too. It's a big tangle of issues and I believe a lot of Christians are in the same boat. We can have medicine too, and help from the church.

@elyse443 Жыл бұрын

How did the church help you?

@Atomikbomb444 Жыл бұрын

@@elyse443 Some people are more informed and less legalistic in their views, so some layed hands on me, prayed, and earnestly asked the Lord to heal me. Others...didn't. I learned a lot by needing to search the Bible and seek the truth on this subject, because I was also told repeatedly that I caused it myself. I'm sorry if this seems negative or gossip-y, but certain people began claiming I wasn't a real Christian, that I was "choosing not to live in the joy of the Lord" and "probably wasn't even saved." So I needed to really do some inner work, and grow a lot. I also left my local church ultimately. But I understand scripture more, and I'm grateful. I take alternative antidepressants that actually work. Not being healed miraculously, and being slandered by others motivated me to seek out natural medicinal stuff (SSRIs didn't help).

@Cryozebra 3 жыл бұрын

This is possibly the best, most encouraging, and downright theologically rational video I've watched on KZbin in a long, long time... Thank you.

@CoachPaula1010 4 жыл бұрын

Wow! That was beautifully said. Anointed teacher. I've discovered that there are a multitude of Christians suffering with depression and unless they tell you, you would never know this is what they are dealing with. QUESTION: In my Christian Coaching practice I've worked with clients that have both, Anxiety & Depression. What I've noticed is that as we work on the Anxiety, a bonus side-effect happened. The depression often went away or decreased as the Anxiety was relieved. We didn't directly work on the depression itself but it happened simultaneously. To God's glory! Just wondering if anyone else has noticed that also? Is this a common scenario? Blessings!

@tscoke 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. You seem to have nailed it. I've felt depressed off and on the last three years because of my wife's death. Still I have to change the subject in my own mind to stop that feeling. Romans 8 is very good.

@r03249 5 жыл бұрын

I thought you were going to tell me that I am a fake Christian because of depression. Thank you for this. I really needed it.

@NatalieNubukpo 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this explanation! This really spoke to my heart! 🙏🏾

@karlbryant9242 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Jeremy so much! That was a wonderful,insightful ,hopeful and inspiring presentation! I am looking at my christian life with depression in a new way!

@quelnchel 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for clearing this topic. I been depressed from childhood now I'm 60 .. I'm a functioning depressed woman I go to work and stuff. I the weekend I'm stuck stagnant can't leave the house. I'm seeking help for the first time in my life.

@fionyuyilim7736 5 жыл бұрын

Mudd Pie I'm so glad that you're seeking help! Please try your best to stick with it. Praying for peace, healing and that you'll see the light in the midst of darkness. God bless! :) ❤️

@daneedc8196 4 жыл бұрын

Gonna watch this everytime I feel depressed. THANK YOU FOR THIS

@lovemarie3285 4 жыл бұрын

How I needed to hear this.

@laurelhayes186 3 жыл бұрын

I cannot express how much this has blessed me. Thank you.

@ollvebranch 3 жыл бұрын

This is me. My whole adult life - which has been a Pilgrim’s life - I’ve always felt this way. Now I know how I must proceed, knowing that I’m actually in mourning for something better. . And that I’m not a failure . . Thank-you .

@jcucuta7 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this video. I feel like a different person now. I feel like I finally have my life back. Depression has always been a huge factor in my life, and being a Christian, I felt like God was ignoring my pleas. Now you’ve given me something to look forward to. This was all I needed. Thank you😭

@jesusdeity2010 4 жыл бұрын

The last piece of the puzzle. "Eternal life" was translated from "Zoe" wich actually means "life of God".... Perspective! Gen 1:27. "And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority". That got lost through the fall of man. But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us. The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said: "If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc". It is in John 14 up to 17. It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word. Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body. Completely normal btw. In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is. Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced. God has come full circle! "As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18 The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit. Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day. Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love. Even if you don't feeeeel Him, He's working. He is as close as the mention of His name. You live IN Him and He is IN you. "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit." 2 Corinthians 3:17‭-‬18 AMP Jesus thank you for loving us, changing us and making us walk just like you, by your Spirit. In unselfish divine power and love. You are so amazing!

@heartylegend2002 4 жыл бұрын

I think that's what causes us to sin is when our Depression hit. Because we feel like we need something to fill that void but we truly know the Jesus and God are the Eternal Joy.

@anointedhealthcoach 8 ай бұрын

I was sensitive and weird before being born again but know, that i can see sin everywhere, godless society and deception at every corner and i still see injustice, poverty and trauma in everywherr i go, my high funtioning depression is very intense and i te d to go into depersonalization and derealization to cope with how sick is the world we need to live in. The failure of society to take care of the most vulnerable is heartbreaking, the eay how the evil people snare the children and pray on them even feom the "innocence" of movies it is disgusting and the fact that se are obligated to work so hard and nor even have time for God so this wickedness is reproducted is way too sad.

@radicalhonesty3628 2 жыл бұрын

so many thoughts, feelings, fears, emotions, stresses arise for me, as I watch this video... here's just a few of the things I get flooded with: - emotional pain. - unbearable grief. - homicidal rage. - suicidal depression. - there's a person I sort of/kind of have a crush on, and the whole situation is beyond fucked and is completely toxic, and I don't know how to get out... and if I DO get out, I have nothing. - I am a failure in every aspect of my life. - I'm old now, the future is hopeless... - I recall the past and it fills me with rage. - I live in poverty. - fat/diabetic. - how the fuck am I going to change my life around? - perpetually single, without friends (my whole life). - C-PTSD/INFJ/HSP/SPD - people I love, got that horrific c-19 jab and I am terrified for them. - panic panic panic...

@randykuhns4515 4 жыл бұрын

when we, as Christians, daily deal with the brokenness of the world we feel a sorrow for which we become compassionate to others knowing they ALSO have to deal with this, thus to having this compassion, allows us to be caring, and forgiving because we acknowledge the brokenness of the world,..This is where humility is born from,...

@SBanLstieh 4 жыл бұрын

I've experienced depression i thoughts i was gone to be losing my memory i was losing hope but then i consult with friend and he give me a good advice that surrender yourself to the Lord JESUS and all your battles and God heal me and i read ISAIAH 43.18-19

@leonardoc0rtez289 4 жыл бұрын

Im going tru it know, what should i do 😭

@SBanLstieh 4 жыл бұрын

First you have to have faith in God pray and read the Bible john. 8:32,35 john 10:10.. 1Corinth 3:16-17 john 14:1, 14:27 Galatian 5:22-23 have faith and be patience let God do the work for you surrender all your battles to Jesus.

@jesusdeity2010 4 жыл бұрын

@@leonardoc0rtez289 Perspective! Gen 1:27. "And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority". That got lost through the fall of man. But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us. The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said: "If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc". It is in John 14 up to 17. It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word. Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body. Completely normal btw. In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is. Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced. God has come full circle! "As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18 The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit. Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day. Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love. Even if you don't feeeeel Him, He's working. He is as close as the mention of His name. You live IN Him and He is IN you. "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit." 2 Corinthians 3:17‭-‬18 AMP Jesus thank you for loving us, changing us and making us walk just like you, by your Spirit. In unselfish divine power and love. You are so amazing!

@joshuawatson5500 5 жыл бұрын

This helps soo much ...I don’t think I’m depressed like sad but it’s times where i would rather not be here(on earth) . The scriptures really motivated me 🙏

@oxygentank00 5 жыл бұрын

the unclear part of this video is the definition of depression, because depression in this generation is a long time feeling of hopelessness. the way he explained it seems to me, he is suggesting it's ok to have a long term hoplessness. that's not what the bible says. in Corinthians, Paul said, that God's grace is sufficient for us and His strength is made perfect in our weakness. Paul said it, so that we will not stay in a depressed state.

@Tasceline 5 жыл бұрын

Very insightful. No one who has the ability to see deeper into things can escape depression or sadness in this world.

@bowmadman9562 4 жыл бұрын

Depression may be the hardest thing a person can go through...It steals your life, robs your joy, makes you withdraw from loved one. Turns yourself on yourself. It follows you to bed and when you wake up its waiting on you there. It's an all consuming disorder. I have found myself battling this disease and it has to be the worst thing I've ever experienced. I love the Lord and I know Jesus is my savior. My hope is I will be restored with a new understanding and sympathy for thoughs that battle mental health issues. Prayers for those seeking relief... just remember someday in Glory we won't be able to feel this way....Praise Jesus!

@kieranmaclean4395 2 жыл бұрын

very true brother... the depression I've suffered through has robbed me of so many things, notably my friends and ability to fellowship without forcing myself into it. the worst thing is the bitterness I sink into every so often, a sin which I hate so much, and yet, seems to rise up in me whenever I feel lacking in my hope and my faith. i truly pray God can deliver me and every other brother/sister suffering through this illness, as its such a difficult way to live. God is faithful.

@TaxingIsThieving 3 ай бұрын

⁠⁠@@kieranmaclean4395 I feel the same and I get bitter. I believe it comes from an attachment to the world.

@ching-hangcheung5953 2 жыл бұрын

Really needed to hear this. Thank you for your thorough answer. Keep doing what you are doing!

@theintrovertgospelmusic1676 4 жыл бұрын

Depression is not a joke. Gods grace I survived in depression. This method really helped me in overcoming depression. Six Ways Jesus Fought Depression Then Jesus went with them to a place called Gethsemane, and he said to his disciples, “Sit here, while I go over there and pray.” And taking with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, he began to be sorrowful and troubled. Then he said to them, “My soul is very sorrowful, even to death; remain here, and watch[d] with me.” And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will.” (Matthew 26:36-39) The Bible gives us an amazing glimpse into the soul of Jesus the night before he was crucified. Watch and learn from the way Jesus fought his strategic battle against despondency or depression. 1.)He chose some close friends to be with him. “Taking with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee” (Matthew 26:37) 2.)He opened his soul to them. He said to them, “My soul is very sorrowful, even to death” (Matthew 26:38) 3.}He asked for their intercession and partnership in the battle. “Remain here, and watch with me” (Matthew 26:38) 4.}He poured out his heart to his Father in prayer. “My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me” (Matthew 26:39) 5.}He rested his soul in the sovereign wisdom of God. “Nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will” (Matthew 26:39) 6.}He fixed his eye on the glorious future grace that awaited him on the other side of the cross. “For the joy that was set before him [he] endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God” (Hebrews 12:2). When something drops into your life that seems to threaten your future, remember this: The first shock waves of the bomb in your heart, like the ones Jesus felt in Gethsemane, are not sin. The real danger is yielding to them. Giving in. Putting up no spiritual fight. And the root of that sinful surrender is unbelief - a failure to fight for faith in future grace. A failure to cherish all that God promises to be for us in Jesus. In Gethsemane Jesus shows us another way. Not painless, and not passive. Follow him. Find your trusted spiritual friends. Open your soul to them. Ask them to watch with you and pray. Pour out your soul to the Father. Rest in the sovereign wisdom of God. And fix your eyes on the joy set before you in the precious and magnificent promises of God.

@elliemontgomery8518 Жыл бұрын

Thank u

@henokhsatrio8804 9 ай бұрын

As a christian living with depression for 10 years now, I always get medical gaslighting. That makes me feel lazy to go to health institution. It's like I'm wasting my time. Also other christians see me as a person who doesn't try/fight enough. I have no place to go man.

@timekeeperg2112 4 жыл бұрын

I say yes!!!! I'm a true Christian and depression is killing my faith and hope the more I go on. God's silence in my prayers is really testing my lifelong faith. And I'm not sure who to turn to anymore. I see all these people getting answers to prayer their very first time they cry out to Jesus. Yet after years of tear filled conversations to God in complete humility yet I only have silence!😥

@sullym1867 5 жыл бұрын

This is helpful. It’s easy to forget we all don’t experience things the same way. Anyhow, I could see that expectation for joy causing someone to stumble. What I found as a Christian was more of a peace, understanding, and strength against the chaos of the world. Praise and Glory to Him. Peace to you.

@louisegriffiths8415 2 жыл бұрын

I was suffering from severe depression during the covid lockdown for many months, but I am grateful to God for finally bringing me through it . I just had to learn to persevere by reading the bible, Luther's prayer book and his sermons daily, which reacquainted me with the word of God and his promises of salvation through his son Jesus Christ. Thankyou to all those who prayed to God for me when I posted my prayer request here 6 months earlier. My circumstances havent changed apart from getting in touch again with an old friend and am still working from home . However I have been brought out of the pit of despair I was in a few months ago by the grace of God. I hope this encourages others who are suffering in the same way x

@zilla7444 5 жыл бұрын

This is the best response to a difficult question! Encouraging! Thank you¡ my hope is restored!

@marilyncs7840 3 жыл бұрын

I can agree. Sometimes you can feel things so strongly that it feels like depression. What he says makes sense about living in a broken world and the negative emotion we feel (maybe even internalize). No one has explained like that. Thank you.

@afnuff1284 3 жыл бұрын

One of the most impressive uses of 9mins I have experienced

@raqueldiaz1750 5 жыл бұрын

My depression began when I strayed away from God. I believe there’s a difference between having negative emotions and wanting to take your own life. I don’t like the idea of depression being necessary for a Christian. Yes we get discouraged at times but I wouldn’t call that depression. If we are at that point where we live with depression I think we need to evaluate our life and salvation and see where we went wrong. Philippians 2:12 says to work out our salvation. How is our relationship with God? Our devotion? Our reading and prayer? When we neglect our salvation is when Satan comes in and attacks. That’s when he uses depression to make us feel worthless and miserable. I wouldn’t wish depression on my worst enemy. I also don’t think as a Christian it’s okay or justifiable to have depression. Don’t settle. James 4:7 ; Ephesians 6:12

@ByGraceThruFaith8453 2 жыл бұрын

You know nothing at all about depression.

@sOnlight67 5 жыл бұрын

This was amazing! Thank you. I have never heard this topic addressed and delivered so simply clear. I will listen to this repeatedly until it becomes a part of my essence. Thank you again.

@jesusdeity2010 4 жыл бұрын

Perspective! Gen 1:27. "And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority". That got lost through the fall of man. But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us. The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said: "If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc". It is in John 14 up to 17. It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word. Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God....... God manifested on earth in a human body. Completely normal btw. In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the big fuzz that Jesus could not be the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is. Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced. God has come full circle! "As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18 The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit. Most Christians think it is all about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day. Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love. Even if you don't feeeeel Him, He's working. He is as close as the mention of His name. You live IN Him and He is IN you. "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed *into His image* from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit." 2 Corinthians 3:17‭-‬18 AMP Jesus thank you for loving us, changing us and making us walk just like you, by your Spirit. In unselfish divine power and love. You are so amazing!

@rickscoat Жыл бұрын

I’m struggling with anhedonia, the lack of finding pleasure in anything, for several years. I’m just existing

@AngelinaX23 Жыл бұрын

Same here. I find tiny moments of joy occasionally, but mostly I've lost interest in things that I used to enjoy.

@WW3_Soon 6 ай бұрын

I suffer from joyless intensity.

@jpage99999 4 жыл бұрын

Look at moment 6:20 in the video. That has helped me more than anything else. God bless

@Christknight1991 4 жыл бұрын

My mother always told me that I’m not trusting God enough if I am depressed and worried..

@jesusdeity2010 4 жыл бұрын

@rebecafernandez8587 3 жыл бұрын

You may not know me, but I know everything about you - *Psalm 139:1* I know when you sit down and when you rise up - *Psalm 139:2* I am familiar with all your ways - *Psalm 139:3* Even the very hairs on your head are numbered - *Matthew 10:30* For you were made in MY IMAGE - *Genesis 1:27* In me you live and move and have your being - *Acts 17:26-28* I knew you even before you were concieved - *Jeremiah 1:5* I chose you when I planned creation - *Ephesians 1:11-12* You were not a mistake, for all your days are written in my Book - *Psalm 139:15-16* I determinate the exact time of your birth and where you would live - *Acts 17:26* You are fearfully and wonderfully made - *Psalm 139:14* I knit you together in your mother’s womb - *Psalm 139:13* And brough you forth on the day you were born - *Psalm 71:6* I have been misrepresented by those who don’t know me - *John 8:41-44* I am not distant and angry but I am the complete expression of Love - *1John **4:16* And it is my desire to lavish my love on you. Simply, because you are my child and I am your Father - *1John 3:1* I offer you more than your earthly father ever could - *Matthew 7:11* For I AM THE PERFECT FATHER - *Matthew 5:48* Every good gift that you receive comes from my hand - *James 1:17* For I am your provider and I meet all your needs - *Matthew 6:31-33* My plan for your future has always been filled with hope - *Jeremiah 29:11* *BECAUSE I LOVE YOU WITH EVERLASTING LOVE* - *Jeremiah 31:3* My thoughts toward you are countless as the sand on the seashore - *Psalm 139:17-18* And I rejoice over you with singing - *Zephaniah **3:17* I will never stop doing good to you - *Jeremiah 32:40* For you are my treasure possession - *Exodus 19:5* I desire to establish you with all my heart and all my soul - *Jeremiah 32:41* And I want to show you great and marvelous things - *Jeremiah 33:3* If you seek me with all your heart, you will find me - *Deuteronomy **4:29* Deligh in me and I will give you the desires of your heart - *Psalm 37:4* For it is I who gave you those desires - *Philippians 2:13* I am able to do more for you than you could possibly imagine - *Ephesians 3:20-21* For I am your greatest encourager - *2Thessalonians **2:16**-17* I am also Father who comforts you in all your troubles - *2Corinthians 1:3-4* When you are brokenhearted, I am close to you - *Psalm 34:18* As a shepherd carries a lamb, I have carried you close to my heart - *Isaiah 40:11* One day I will wipe away every tear from your eyes and I will take away all the pain you have suffered on this earth - *Revelation 21:3-4* I am your Father and I love you even as I love my Son, Jesus Christ - *John 17:23* For in Jesus my Love for you is revealed - *John 17:26* He is the exact representation of my being - *Hebrews 1:3* He came to demonstate that I am for you, not against you - *Romans 8:31* And to tell you that I am not counting your sins. Jesus died so that you and I could be reconciled - *2Corinthians 5:18-19* His death was the ultimate expression of my love for you - *1John **4:10* I gave up everything I loved that I might gain your love - *Romans 8:31-32* If you receive the gift of my Son Jesus Christ, you receive ME - *1John **2:23* And nothing will ever separate you from my Love again - *Romans 8:38-39* Come Home and I will throw the biggest party heaven has ever seen - *Luke 15:7* I have always been Father and will always be Father - *Ephesians 3:14-15* Shalom and God bless you ❤️

@ianbetts4435 Жыл бұрын

That's like saying can I be a Christian and have a broken leg.

@rachel691 6 жыл бұрын

This perspective brings so much hope. Thank you.

@abramriccardo9251 6 жыл бұрын

Thankyou Jesus !!

@blissfullybrittany9217 11 ай бұрын

This was so helpful. Thank you. Bien again and struggle with depression and anxiety. Your right , we put our hope in things that fail, we have to remind ourselves that God will not fail us , and there is more than this life .

@jedia7812 6 жыл бұрын

I was already having suicidal thoughts during a depressive episode but I had a dream that night where everyone was doing their own business, unmindful that their flesh was rotting away. I was surprised to see the muscles of my feet rotting away too. I thought, but I'm a Christian, this shouldn't be happening to me. Then Jesus appeared and brought a family of gospel singers back to life. They were entering a tunnel and I went with Him. But I could not step into the vortex. I felt that I have not yet lived my purpose. Jesus told me, your turn will come. I woke up crying and read the book of Revelations. It changed my perspective of desiring death over my life into longing for Jesus' 2nd coming ...He will wipe all of my tears away. He has a purpose for my life and His grace will carry me. Though I mourn, am afflicted, and am not comforted today, God gives me hope on the life to come. He absorbs my passions on the cross and by His wounds, I am healed.

@coupdefoudre5352 4 жыл бұрын

Curly Spoon Designs So beautiful. I feel the same . Stay blessed.

@joansalazar9841 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful!!

@d.o.7784 3 жыл бұрын

The problem is that we can’t have a glimpse of that beautiful world thats coming, then how can you hope and find happiness in something no human being (alive) has ever experienced?

@mujerdefe777 6 жыл бұрын

A fascinating explanation. Thank you.

@kylieanderson3916 4 жыл бұрын

I am so glad to click on this video Dr Pierre has helped with his accurate response.

@berenc7619 6 жыл бұрын

Christians do get depressed , it's part of being in a fallen state and being in a fallen world . But , thankfully , God comforts the depressed and even has that written in His word .

@db7292 5 жыл бұрын

Yes I get depressed on a regular basis. I know the Lord is with me but sometimes I feel so alone.

@atheist535 5 жыл бұрын

@@db7292 You feel alone because you are alone. Your imaginary friend does not exist.

@TaxingIsThieving 3 ай бұрын

@@atheist535 What a lovely person you are.

@papermason 4 жыл бұрын

I have had my faith questioned, doubted, etc. by pastors and teachers. Even as a young girl I knew that their actions were contradictory to Scripture. Thank you for an excellent and Scriptural teaching. God Bless!

@jshir17 6 жыл бұрын

If a pastor disagrees with someone's diagnosis of anxiety and depression he should contact the patients doctor directly and discuss it with him instead of judging or harassing the patient behind the doctor's back. It's fair to say that most pastors do not even possess the Acumen to become doctors so they should not give unsolicited medical advice contrary to a patient's doctor.

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@GrandmaMcBear 5 жыл бұрын

HIPPA laws would never allow that.

@gjjhwonderer3561 5 жыл бұрын

Evelyn Choy just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I know I have seen many of times where pastors lukewarm problems.

@gjjhwonderer3561 5 жыл бұрын

Evelyn Choy we all. have obligations to see if both sides of every situation has facts. How else can we help victims both pastors and chruch congregation victims? How can leaders having abusive habbits not matter when they are in charge of taking care of dozens of people?

@gjjhwonderer3561 5 жыл бұрын

Evelyn Choy ths size of the chruch shouldn't matter we all have obligations to help victims in chruch both pastors and the people. We should not tell them to just leave. we as Jesus Christ sons and daughters have obligations to help both pastors and the people who are victims. We should not turn a blind eye to pastors who are abused nor should we turn a blind eye to the people who are abuse. If we tell people or a pastor to leave because of abuse we are swiping the problem under the rug. Leaving a opening for more victims. You disagree?

@melissahesse2041 Жыл бұрын

My pastor hung himself...Pastor Berry Palser Denver Colorado. I watched his last sermon and he seemed perfectly fit, funny, spot on in all ways. Days later his wife found him hanging in the garage. Son, Pastor, husband, dad, grandfather, business owner with all his brothers in Harley Davidson bikes, Biker Sunday ministry for bikers, T.V talk show and so much more. All I'm saying is this darkness is more serious and selfish then meets the eye. Surely someone had to have seen something about Berry...apparently not. just sayin. m