Can An Ending Ruin a Film?

[@dmj271095]

if your eating a meal you wont complain about a spice but if on the last bite you find a clump of dog hair it will ruin the entire meal

[@troywright359]

If you're eating a meal, you might complain if there's a slight after taste. but you can get used to that taste, and even grow to like it. a clump of hair you can never get used to

[@xdestoryer6668]

If you’re watching someone paint a paint you like but then see them just paint a stroke of poop brown in the middle

[@incidentalist]

you're*

[@daxtro5492]

@@xdestoryer6668 then bob ross turns it into a happy little tree

[@artman40]

The last hazelnut you eat better not be the bitter one.

[@aros0018]

Speaking of endings, that last reveal and line at the end made this episode all worth it.

[@Jonniemcl]

Cracked me up too, timings always so good with these guys *Ducks for casper* TIMING

[@yeti9548]

I have no words lol

[@rcecile]

Alexander Sigstad Andres reveal was fantastic

[@aros0018]

Rose Blossom That's the exact moment that made me glad I watched this. Mind you I've never thought the editorials were bad, it's just that I look forward to the reviews more.

[@Puerco-Potter]

Andre have comedic timing even to say hello, maybe the way he talks? on the other hand Doug and James actually nailed it this time, they seems to have more confidence now than ever.

[@gootswax]

But the chart says

[@apollofine1125]

Macabre Memes screw the charts lol

[@liaminator4950]

Things.

[@Justmyhandle]

The Rock says, *"IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR CHART IS!"* 😎

[@guinealover6674]

Macabre Memes Why do people never listen to the chart?

[@randomationhlt]

FUCK THE CHART!!!!!!!!

[@TheSmokingSkull]

The Director's Cut of *I Am Legend* actually uses the original ending where Smith's character (spoiler, for those who haven't seen it) does *NOT* blow up the zombies along with himself. Instead he realizes that he, the human scientist who was killing/dissecting the zombies in order to find a cure, is seen as a monster by the zombies themselves. It's actually a really good ending that I'm glad was in the Director's Cut, but I'm not happy that most people don't even know about it.

[@PsylomeAlpha]

i like the previous incarnation of i am legend, called Last Man On Earth.

[@jinhunterslay1638]

If it's such a good ending....why didn't they use it!!?

[@TheSmokingSkull]

Jinhunter Slay​ I just said the Director's Cut uses the good ending, which really humanizes the zombies. I'm guessing the studios and execs, who are usually the ones to blame for messing up perfectly good movies with crappy editing or reshooting whole portions of movies, thought the good ending wasn't "action-packed" enough and put the bad ending into the Theatrical version.

[@JosibiusZ]

I believe they changed the ending after a test screening. The audience that saw the film at that time with the original ending (the one in the DC) didnt really like it and, based on those results, one of the higher ups decided to change it. Thats how we got the more Action-like ending instead of the one that made the audience question the decisions of the protagonist.

[@chainsov]

yeah, the alternate ending was much much better, bu I guess it was too much for the average schmoe in the test screening.

[@rolandsquire6555]

How can anyone possibly hate Vader's face reveal? Return of the Jedi has plenty of issues, but this has to be imo the best part of the film.

[@carowolff4702]

Roland Squire ikr

[@Caldella]

People were expecting him to look "cooler", considering how intimidating he was through the films (and that James Earl Jones voiced him). In reality, his appearance made sense, given he was basically in a life support suit.

[@rolandsquire6555]

Caldella It makes me sad that people complain about such a great plot point.

[@smashbrother8696]

I completely agree with that. It's the moment that seals Anakin/Vader's character arc for good.

[@NoahWeisbrod]

I liked that. Seeing Darth Vader as a broken old man underneath the helmet really humanized this dark, badass presence. Obviously, other things about the ending were... meh. Teddy bears with rocks and sticks killing soldiers with guns and armor is goofy. Switching back and forth between that sequence and Luke fighting his father was a major tonal clash.

[@jeffphillips1832]

"The worst endings go on forever. The best leave you wanting more" - Stephen Spielberg after watching Paul Blart Mall Blarp 4.

[@aetherofthenorth9700]

Return of the King....

[@madnutrules]

When Avgn said that lamp looked suspicious, I was constantly saying in my head "please be Andre please be Andre please be Andre"...yay!

[@Cwsharp13]

ditto

[@JuFated]

lol at the least they didnt cut to him being trapped in the closet this time

[@fendelphi]

Plot Twist! :)

[@madnutrules]

Juu Ju​ lol

[@thema1998]

I knew Andre would be there!

[@JoeVincentPresents]

BRO!!! Thank you for smoking is the most under-appreciated masterpiece in comedy. 100% agree

[@noominiacal]

Wow, I know this comment is super old. I've just never seen you comment on anything ever. You make some amazing content. Your Ed Reed "Ball Hawk "is my all-time favorite KZbin sports video. I actually show my son all of your content.

[@qualifiedidiots2165]

That lamp wasn't conveniently shaped enough.

[@imveryangryitsnotbutter]

Something something skeleton pun.

[@colmryan9289]

I'm Very Angry It's Not Butter I swear you're stalking me.

[@Indeside]

Colm Ryan i think you need to stop playing oblivion, your starting to sound like one of its side-quests

[@kellyhh2519]

that was the best lamp ever

[@evatha69]

"Hi I'm Frisk and I'm a genderless child!

[@christiankallio8586]

Tune in next week for episode two of Thirty Something Nerdy Critics: Enter the Bay

[@wahlflower3517]

Once you enter the Bay, there's no escape.

[@freefall742]

*Baywatch

[@Marsson90]

Once you go Bay, you never go...

[@Sharkwizard]

Critics Power!

[@MetalGemstones]

Christian Kallio originally in their theme I heard 'Thirty Something Whiny Critics' (No offense) You guys are awesome critics

[@ChannelAwesome]

Did an ending ruin a film for you?

[@Mister.Rawgers]

Channel Awesome Yes, Doug... yess... *sniff*

[@lordofthejotnar7144]

Channel Awesome after all these years, how can you ask that question? haha.

[@alexanderjoy6060]

Channel Awesome yes

[@mrslowly2238]

Channel Awesome Ye, I was watching a fan film but then the main conflict ended EVERYONE was like "um... is that it?"

[@LJW1912]

Channel Awesome I call this the 'Mass Effect' Effect

[@MewKiichigo]

I think the Critic missed another crucial reason why an ending can ruin a film: Sometimes, the ending changes the meaning behind the ENTIRE film, making the film now as bad as the ending. Let's use Secret Window as an example, though I won't spoil the ending. For those who thought the twist was obvious throughout the film, let's pretend it wasn't obvious and we all believed what the film was superficially telling us. Then the ending comes along and we realize that that ending changes the entire film; ALL of the events in the film took place because of what the ending revealed and we find out that the film was only pretending to tell us one cause when there was an underlying cause we didn't know about. If you hated that ending, it's hard to enjoy the rest of the film because now you know why each and every little event happened, now you know the secret behind the entire film and it sucks. This is partially why the "It was all a dream" twist endings almost never work, because they change the meaning of the entire film. Every major event didn't happen, every lesson learned wasn't learned after all, and nothing was ever at stake, making the entire movie completely pointless. Endings are supposed to tie together the events of the film. Just like a good ending can string a bad film into a better one by giving it a better meaning or message, a bad ending can tie a good film together in a bad way by giving it a bad or stupid meaning or message. For the record, I actually like Secret Window and did not suspect the twist whatsoever. However, I understand %100 how someone could dislike it for its twist and I completely get the criticism it gets.

[@promontorium]

Secret Window Johnny Depp killed his wife and imagined the hillbilly. There. It's a shitty movie. Spoil it. The part about the end of that film that I really hated was not the ending, but the VERY END where we see him chomping down on corn like he's eating a fucking apple. It's so god damn stupid. You can tell with the editing and the camera, etc. it's supposed to convey a sort of "A ha, what a clever evil bastard!" but since you're reeling from the shitty twist and all around growing annoyed with the whole film, his corn eating in your face comes off more like "Ha ha, made you watch this shit!"

[@troywright359]

nobody here read the actual short story? that's the way it ended there also, except the character didn't get away with it

[@UnknownUnknown-mo7zg]

There's a great book that was made into a movie that didn't pull the twist off, but man in the book, you don't suspect a thing until the very end. Shutter Island was magnificent for a book, but I heard the movie was a disappointment. Either way, I highly recommend reading the book. Now that is how you do a twist.

[@HeavensMemory]

@ Mew Kiichigo So true, I hate those stupid "it was all a dream" endings. They make me furious because even if the movie was good or ok the ending makes it all meaningless. I don't recall a movie that pulled the all-a-dream-thing in a satisfying way.

[@hardcoreking52]

Law Abiding Citizen did it for me. The movie was great from the beginning, however the ending almost ruins it.

[@terminaldeity]

Fun fact: The Straight Story was a Disney movie directed by David Lynch. Yes, you read that correctly.

[@matthewmoran5297]

I know that. :)

[@spookyf1nger979]

Wow, no shit. Cool to know

[@DAMIENDMILLS]

interesting.

[@namingisdifficult408]

terminaldeity too many words

[@realrealwarpet]

the only part of that sentence that made sense to me, was disney movie

[@christiankallio8586]

If a movie ends with "It was all a dream" or some deus ex machina, that movie is automatically crap.

[@wahlflower3517]

What about Wizard of Oz? One of the firsts "It was all a dream"

[@christiankallio8586]

Good point, I forgot about that. But I still don't like the ending where the "good" which is like "If I told you you could use the ruby slippers to go home the whole time you wouldn't have believed me"BS if you told Dorthy that in the beginning she probably would have believed you.

[@SouprSpookr]

Wahl Flower I guess that one gets a pass because it was one of, if not the first movies to do that twist.

[@legoC97]

The thing with one of those movies is if it focuses on the character, and how they either grew or realized something about themselves, through the use of the dream, then it is okay. Think Wizard of Oz. But if the movie focuses on the story and a series of events, then "it was all a dream" makes the film complete garbage.

[@blackhalo317]

I think Wizard of Oz gets a pass on that because it was building to something: Dorothy realizing there's no place like home. Also, earlier in the film, Dorothy is hit on the head so it was plausible that she had been sleeping. Movies and shows that pull that "it was all a dream" usually don't work because there was no way that you could have known. There were no clues or anything to make you think that maybe it wasn't real. Wizard of Oz, on the other hand, works because you remember that Dorothy hit her head and was unconscious. Though you were unaware that she had not actually woken up, she was in fact dreaming. I think that when Glinda tells her that she had always the power to go back home, that was in fact a clue towards the clue that she was sleeping. So, for me, it works kind of like the Sixth Sense after you go back and re-watch it.

[@mrbanks456]

NEXT EDITORIAL: Does "creative" always equal good?

[@mrbanks456]

also @ending AAAAAAAHHHHHHH :D

[@mishpattwo3960]

JoJo Banks Yessssssss

[@missx5472]

JoJo Banks I preffer creative to unoriginal

[@shanachayadavison5857]

++++++++++++++++++++

[@FancyKerbloops]

+Miss X If something is creative and fails to capture your imagination, would you still prefer that to something more "tried and true"?

[@sams6090]

anyone else realize that when superman is flying around the earth super fast he's not actually trying to make it spin backwards. It's actually just showing that he's going so fast that he's able to go back in time to undo all the bad stuff that happened. The earth spinning backwards just shows a time progression in reverse. Most people seem to not realize this.

[@erlandjohansen7195]

Someone had to tell me before I got it, but when you first see it that way it makes sense. Not saying it was good, but the Earth spinning backwards does make sense.

[@pauljohnong5924]

NO WAY REALLY?! WHOA! WHOA. MIND BLOWN! HOLY SHIT! THAT IS SURPRISING! FUCKING SHIT!

[@AntiFaGoat]

So Superman is able to move so fast that he's able to disrupt the space-time continuum? Given all the powers he has, it wouldn't surprise me if that was true. If they'd hinted at it in the movie, I think he'd all have bought it.

[@erlandjohansen7195]

Snowflake Productions Regular physics can't really tell what happens if something were to move faster than the speed of light, but one suggested possibility is that it would travel backwards in time. I think that's what DC is going for, both with Superman and the Flash.

[@catherinestickels2591]

Two problems. One, going really fast makes you move faster through time, not backwards. Two, and more damning, he stops and goes the other way to make it spin the right way again. It's pretty clear that it's intended to be turning telhe Earth to turn back time. Unless I'm super misremembering it.

[@boglenight1551]

"Is it me or is that light looking a little suspicious?" My friend, I believe that is what you call a dark.

[@boglenight1551]

Super Racist Man to the rescue!

[@Kingpinn02]

When you mentioned The Straight Story, it reminded me of how I had the opposite effect while watching The LEGO Movie. I was still loving it while I watched, but I didn't like how fast paced it was until the ending made more sense out of it.

[@awfulfawful661]

Green Goblin sings itsy-bitsy spider? Classic Spidey moment Electro does it? Everybody loses their goddamn minds

[@sandrols7]

it was because TAS franchise had an entirely different tone, being more the broody gritty version. So it becomes incredibly weird when such a version does something so cartoony or, rather, comic book like TAS. And no, not 'because it was dubstep'.

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

that part for me is not bad. The bad thing is how they wasted rhino at the end with a huge cliffhanger worrying more about the sequels. AND the plans for sequels wwould have killed every good thing about the ASM movies (they were essentially planning to adapt the clone saga, but not the good element, but the bad ones)

[@Spidey-ek4sy]

Liam's Lenz except you know *snap*

[@jchris12000]

You would expect that from Goblin being both comedic and murderous after the recent animated series back then. Electro however was just wrong.

[@HumansFreshlyBorn]

Awful Fawful the difference is that the Raimi films have a far different tone from the reboots. The Raimi films makes that kind of thing normal but in the reboots when Electro plays itsy bitsy spider and Garfield goes I HATE THAT SONG!!!! It’s weird

[@Kayin15]

Oh Andre, you're just like me playing stealth games.

[@Kayin15]

Er... yeah! What Andre? I didn't see any Andre! Just a totally not suspicious talking lamp. Yeah... *cough*

[@heddalindstrand4292]

Emilie DeWinter iiqwaawa

[@thesupersonicstig]

Andre, respond! Andre! AAAAAAANNNNNNDRRRRREEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

[@supermario0527]

Wait, people didn't like Vader's reveal? Ewoks I understand (although I like them ok), but Vader? Why?

[@vixxcelacea2778]

I think it's because it came out at a time where that concept of a villain once being a person and is in reality a frail, regretful old man powered by machines was shocking. I can see people not liking it as many do not like their villains having any weak points, but personally to me, I thought it brought everything full circle and was a depressing and emotionally gripping reveal.

[@magnatcleo2043]

Honestly, I would have been more peeved if he was like Schwarzenegger-like buff guy. After all, the whole thing about him being Luke's father and being "more machine than man" made me expect to see an old and withered man in the armor.

[@Rantsnrambles808]

magnat cleo exactly and the entire premise basically revolved on the emperor seeking to replace vader as "the muscle"

[@catherinestickels2591]

I guess people didn't want a human face put behind the mask. It's like in the first book of the Bounty Hunter Wars trilogy. What's her face looks at the injured, comatose Boba Fett, and incredulously asks if that is really him. Dengar proceeds to hold up his helmet and say: "No. This is Boba Fett."

[@adiveler]

I'm surprise that Hotel Transylvania 2 isn't mention here - The movie was great, until that ending which ruined everything! Throughout the whole movie - Dracula tried to deny the prospect that his grandson might not be a vampire, and eventually - he started learning to accept that his grandson is just a human. But then - Nope, Dennis is a vampire, everybody got what they wanted, and we also got very forced villains, which were never mentioned in before in the movie! This is a great example of movie with ending that betray its own moral

[@Nightman221k]

I'd have liked if Dennis hadn't been a vampire. Up until the point where he turned into a vampire, I thought the movie was actually really good, but the end did make it a movie I don't think I'll be revisiting much because the ending felt like a copout.

[@CalebCraft10]

Unraveler That movie sucked all the way through. It's just that the ending was even worse.

[@grapejuice8595]

HT2 wasn't good from the start The ending trashed the entire film though

[@Adamant_Adam]

Unraveler I totally agree! The hype I had for that movie was so great, I nearly wanted to drink a bottle of bleach when I finished it. the first film has to be one of my favorites (even though I haven't watched it in years) and I had a lot of hopes for the second. it was a total cop out and it made me hate the Shit outta it.

[@vermis8344]

The first one made me want to bleach my eyes AND my ears. (I learned much later it was an Adam Sandler thing. Go fig.) Doesn't surprise me that the sequel turned out rubbish too.

[@nikiyerbamate]

AVGN, BN, AND NC?! JON. TRON. GET. IN. HERE.

[@ThePonderer]

Dat One Crafter does Jon have a particular affinity for Ninja Turtles?

[@venaretro5444]

GN?

[@PrincessAshley972]

Dat One Crafter GN? I think you meant BN

[@NefariousDreary]

Dat One Crafter Hmmm, I don't know about that.

[@Chaos89P]

I was thinking Jeremy from CinemaSins.

[@Djiril922]

Does the lack of an ending count? If so I nominate "The Golden Compass."

[@catherinestickels2591]

Djiril922 God that movie was so terrible. Not as bad as the other books in the trilogy turned out, but still.

[@thatsallreviews]

*cough cough* Alita: Battle Angel *cough cough*

[@SuperNova-mc1iz]

Yeah but there's groups of people who worship that film just because captain marvel came out at the Same time

[@mateuszmarciniak2828]

"Mr and Mrs Smith" I watched it and was under the impression that it was an unfinished movie.

[@Novasky2007]

I think they liked it cause it was pretty faithful to the anime and manga. Not just cause it handled the heroine with more sense than marvel.

[@brunoseixas3658]

"An ending can even change the way you look at everything[...]" Ending of Metal Gear Solid 3 is the perfect example In the good way I'm saying

[@dasuberkaiser6]

And the ending of Metal Gear Solid V is the perfect example in the bad way.

[@thechugg4372]

I think you misspelled Metal Gear Solid 2

[@ΈκτοραςΕλευθεριάδης]

Another example of amazing ending was the ending mgs2 especially the plot twist in the end. The first time i played the game the firsr time i played the game the ending made my brain explode..

[@runefaustblack]

One word: _999._

[@Novasky2007]

Are you saying that, or are you just following orders?

[@Zefurion1988]

The real question is. Can a Film ruin an Ending??

[@michaelotis223]

Ah but an ending forms part of the film...

[@OGslick]

Ino Koludrovic wouldn't that just be the same thing as the ending making the film better?

[@magnatcleo2043]

Unless you mean sequels, probably not.

[@ninjabluefyre3815]

#deep

[@aztn19]

Yeah, perhaps not within the same film though. The Matrix sequels ruin the ending of the first movie for many people. Films like Jack Reacher 2 and Taken 2 kind of ruin the first movie for me since I know they’ll have to go through the situation again learning or changing little to nothing from the last movie.

[@DissFunkShunIll]

I want to make a movie that is like a badass martial arts movie and at the end as the protagonist walks away from the scene of the final epic battle he stumbles across a potato and says in a goofy semi retarded voice and tone "Poh-Tay-Toooe" and then he rolls it and the end credits just follow this rolling potato that just keeps going downhill and falling off stuff so it doesn't stop rolling and then idk maybe stop when it lands at the feet of someone looking ominous signaling a possible sequel. Would that ruin my kung fu epicness?

[@TheGoldenDunsparce]

Ho-Lee Chit That reminds me of the scene in "Kung Pow! Enter The Fist" with the baby falling down the cliff. It was obviously a doll, but so horrible and funny. That movie was so terrible, it was great!

[@daniiiba2633]

Po-tay-toe xD I'm fucking dying man, you've killed me xD

[@manuelalbertoromero9528]

Depends on your execution of such scene.

[@JaelinBezel]

Manuel Alberto Romero If it were me, I'd probably just smash to black the instant he hits the ground. Imagining it as a front or back shot. (with cartoon sound effect)

[@samwallaceart288]

What the actual fuck am I reading? Okay, it's almost 4 am, I need to stop laughing before I wake up the neighbors.

[@TheHero136]

I can overlook Vader screaming “No” but I know others can’t and so I am still invested in the movie.

[@brendopls]

The Pokemon Movie. Remember that? Remember Ash getting turned to stone and all the pokemon crying to bring him back to life? I do... I do...

[@brendopls]

That shit at the end of the first movie turned me off the whole anime.

[@joeyno137]

mewtwo origins is something else though

[@jemm113]

Obligatory crying for a lack of Nichijou season 2 And yes, if I wasn't already invested in the anime before seeing the movie, I would have definitely rethought about watching it. Also, I hear the original JP version had a much different ending than what 4kids brought us.

[@brendopls]

jemm113 we all cry...

[@jemm113]

Yeah. The only movies I've loved were 2000 (second pkmn movie I saw), 3 (entei's one, I like the premise and the ending doesn't detract for me), Heroes (first one), and the deoxys one, and I will be the first to explain their problems, but I enjoy them all the same. Also, Pluendi, they've started releasing the manga in the U.S. in book form. I don't know what issue they're on but I have vol 1 and 2. Edits Added #3 because I forgot initially. To clarify: I like the movies still, the one's I've mentioned are my favorite, and there are some that I absolutely hate/don't care about.

[@pinkyfull]

I am legend would have been much more powerful with the alternate ending.

[@futurestoryteller]

They're usually right. I can't tell you how many smart decisions large corporations, or independent filmmakers have made, that get blown off by viewers as some kind of cheap gimmick, or just cause them to neglect to convince their friends that it's worth seeing. All the best movies are "I thought it was good, other people might not like it though" and it turns out when you tell people that, their first thought is "I'm other people." One time a guy I worked with asked me if I saw "That one Brad Pitt Jesse James movie" I said "Yeah" and before I could get out how i thought it was brilliant he blurted out "Fucking boring as shit wasn't it!?" You can't really blame studios for catering to that guy... there's way more of him than there is of me. That movie didn't make back half its fucking budget - and it _really_ didn't cost that much to make, in Hollywood money.

[@aztn19]

Dan Nguyen I wasn't aware there was a book before seeing the movie, so I have no clue as to how it ended in novel form. But if the book also has the protagonist's cure for cancer turn folks into zombies and now he has to find a cure for zombies, then the ending differing from the movie's strange ending won't matter for me

[@aztn19]

M LT now THAT would have made a more interesting twist for the movie. But the film doesn't portray the "zombies" as victims until halfway through, nor does it show them as a perverse kind of society. They mimic classic horror movie zombies so well that both you and Dan really haven't corrected me on what either the book or movie calls them. Just like the victims in the Resident Evil games aren't "zombies" technically, nor or the Borg in Star Trek or DC Comics Black Lanterns, but they fit many of the troupes for zombies and I'm not that interested in that kind of monster

[@futurestoryteller]

This "zombies or no" question is _really_ silly. This is an "if it looks like a duck" situation. In fact zombies aren't "zombies" if you want to go by strict adherence to logic. Because "Romero Zombies" are rotting, typically mindless, ghouls, that feast on the flesh of the living." Zombies in traditional Haitian folklore were reanimated corpses raised by magic _to do the bidding of their masters_. In any case, I didn't like the way they were depicted in I am Legend, the awful CGI effects didn't serve the story from either the "these are your terrifying reality" or "they're actually very human" perspectives. So they all but ruin the whole thing singlehanded.

[@pinkyfull]

the alternate ending if you were wondering is where the will smith character after seeing one of the zombies caress the one he has "cured" on the bench realises that all the zombies he abducted and killed are living human beings. He walks past them under the weight (which is portrayed perfectly by smith) of what he has done (kill ill but still alive people) and into the future. That ending is a better on film adaptation of the book ending having a council of elders in that film would have been silly. But the power of that ending was made completely mute. We never get to see that the "zombies" aren't zombies. we never get to see the main characters regret and the moment where he realises that he has murdered dozens maybe hundreds of thinking living people to try and make them "better"

[@jimmyzeke13]

Another great example of a botched ending is the original ending to A Clockwork Orange, where Alex eventually *does* find himself rehabilitated... negating the entire rest of the novel's themes. Good thing they kept the fixed ending for the film.

[@chickenfdisoruhg4915]

That's why the original publshed book had it's final chapter cut. Honestly, I don't mind the ending since leaving things ambigious for the reader to determine what happened to Alex just leaves me wanting more....... wait a minute..

[@DoctorPrepper]

Yes, that ending baffled me. The entire point, as I understood it, was that morality consists in the ability to choose between good and evil. In turning Alex into a "clockwork orange" devoid of the ability to choose how to act, the Ludovico technique robbed him of his humanity. But then the ending seems to suggest that he needs to be a good person anyway (for the sake of a "good ending," I suppose), which detracts from the point that his ability to willingly do wrong is what makes him human. Whereas Kubrick's film ends with Alex restored to his true self. Being free to be himself, to be human again, is the "cure" to having been forced to act in a manner contrary to his own will.

[@mabusestestament]

That means you don't get the ending, I guess.

[@thephantomoftheparadise5666]

I think the ending represents free will. Alex chose to not to do bad things anymore and wasn't forced into it. That's the whole point of the book and movie. Their about freedom of choice.

[@DoctorPrepper]

The Phantom of the Paradise True, but the way it's written into the book at the very end, almost as an afterthought, makes it feel like an abrupt deus ex machina (at least for me) which is motivated by the author's desire to force the character of Alex to be good at the end of the story. Even if it's written that Alex chooses to be good, it doesn't feel like an organic outgrowth of the rest of the story up to that point, and so it feels forced even if it isn't. I think the point about freedom of choice would have been more effective if the author had allowed Alex to continue to be evil because that would have forced the reader to think harder and really weigh the options of evil by choice vs. good by compulsion. If good by choice becomes an option for Alex, this softens the impact of the central idea that the substance of morality consists in human agency. Maybe not for all readers, but that was at least my experience reading the book.

[@ImminDragon]

"If we have a meal that's mostly good, but has a spice we don't like..." Bad comparison. You taste spice through the whole thing. You get bits of it throughout the dish. A movie with a bad ending is like finishing a nice chicken parmesan, only to realize that it was a bit undercooked and now you have food poisoning. Humans have a need for completion. A bad ending is like enjoying a meal only to vomit at the end. Leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

[@risingofthethorn1197]

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[@psychoriot866]

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The Nerd, The Critic, The Comedian.

[@nostalgiaworks5999]

The Nostalgic Nerd is the name of a Nostalgia Critic knockoff. Don't confuse me.

[@aryankaushik9346]

EMS correction... The "black nerd"

[@Calum_Chrystal]

What's so bad about the ending of the first Iron Man? Personally him revealing himself is one of the best MCU moments

[@Smeeshie2001]

Calum Chrystal Thats not his problem with Iron Mans ending. He made a review where he explains ut

[@futurestoryteller]

Most peoples' problem with it is that the bad guy is just "Bad Iron Man" the way Loki is "bad Thor" and what's-his-face is "Bad Ant-Man," in that one movie, "Good Ant-Man" it's a common (and justified) complaint that Marvel film villains are either too similar or too boring to be a foil for the hero. Probably helped when they decided to make them punch each other last spring.

[@Calum_Chrystal]

Dan Nguyen I understand what Nostalgia Critic means when talking about the villain but personally I consider that the third act, the last one or two scenes of the film is actually the ending for me

[@futurestoryteller]

***** That's really stupid. Sorry. It just is. The villain has a lot to do with Iron Man's ending. To ignore him and say that it's a separate thing, is just to ignore reality.

[@hackman669]

Iron Man 1 wast the best of the series! Number 2 was silly but doable. Three was simply ridiculous and did not follow the genre.

[@owiseone1]

You should do a whole video on the ending of now you see me

[@KaskDaxxe]

What happened at the end again? I forgot. I suppose thats a testament to how great it was

[@compedycakemine6960]

I loved the first Now You See Me. The second was just utter crap

[@futurestoryteller]

Ah, well... the second one probably made sense then...

[@Boldark]

whole movie was a crap

[@Aquila009]

I would like to know why people think this... I kinda loved it... it might have to do with my hobby as a magician, but still.

[@hayleybartek8643]

I actually like how "AI" ended. It was bittersweet and left me wanting more, and I don't find that kind of ending often. One of my favorite book series ends in a similar way, with the hero leaving everything he knew behind, including his loved ones. I also liked the ending of "War of the Worlds." It made sense to me because of my education and career background, and it gave a sense of hope.

[@scottbuckley823]

'AI' Ending was a brilliant ending to a long journey

[@titusmccarthy]

AI ending was hideous and vomit-inducing.

[@scottbuckley823]

Titus McCarthy well we all have our own tastes

[@titusmccarthy]

Scott Buckley I BARFED in the theatre when AI finished.

[@scottbuckley823]

Titus McCarthy I don't how to respond to that

[@kaijud3941]

An ending can definitely ruin a series just look at Naruto and Dexter.

[@Arphemius]

Oh yes, Dexter. Never gonna watch the series again after that ending. It just made everything pointless. I joked with a friend that it seems like the writers were told there was gonna be another season, but then they decided to make an ending two episodes before the season finale, so the writers had to come up with some bullshit to end it with: "Wait, what? You're ending it _this season_? But we need at least another 4 episodes to create a semblance of closure... No sir. No we'll do it sir." *hangs up* "Hey Gabe, what's up?" "They want us to end it now." "Now?" "Now." "Jesus Christ..." "I know." "Okay, start with the basics, the main characters: Where do they end up?" "We don't have time to give all of them an ending! We'll just kill one of them off gratuitously, that saves some space. The next we'll just blast away with a storm so he ends up in some strange place in rural America. Some of the side characters can have a happy ending I dont know." "What about the rest of the side characters?" "Shit, ehm... we'll just have to abandon them." "Not even a slideshow during the end credits or something? We'll give them nothing?" "We'll have to." And that's how one of the greatest tv-shows was absolutely fucked by the ending.

[@kaijud3941]

Arphemius Yeah from what I've heard the last episode was written completely at the last second because they were told by Showtime they weren't allowed to kill off Dexter. The whole ending with season 7 looked like it was building up to what it should have been. The Miami Police Department after Dexter. With LaGuerta's replacement being the final main villain. But no....it was just copy/paste from the first season....hell not even that, the entire season revolved around how Hanna's love changed Dexter (despite her doing nothing but screwing him over for her own benefit) Hell every dumb decision and bad move Dexter made that season that cost the lives of those around them were because he was focusing too much on Hanna instead of Oliver....which already put the story on hold each time he did and costed him majorly after he did it.

[@abcdefg2174]

What was bad about the Naruto ending?

[@kanemccarthy1979]

@@abcdefg2174 it was less the ending and more the final arc. Shit like kaguya and the total shattering of the established rules and world building ruined it.

[@nip3004]

ending that makes a story better? "School Days"

[@TriviaTim101Blog]

They turned one of the most generic romance anime ever into a comedic masterpiece by simply adding that ending. Best payoff ever!

[@TheSocialTune]

Nice! :D

[@megamage911]

Fun fact, School Days was a game first, the anime is based off of the player doing all the worst choices throughout xD

[@RedEyesTops]

The ending was the only good thing about that anime to be honest.

[@megamage911]

RedEyesTops I mean, if the anime's goal was to make us hate the main guy, it succeeded very well in that, and make us happy by killing the idiot at the end :P

[@jacobhunter6891]

I actually loved the final act of Iron Man 2. Watching Stark and Rhodes buzz-saw their way through waves of Hammer Drones was SO satisfying!

[@vermis8344]

Jacob Hunter On one hand, yeah, it was badass. On the other, well, there wasn't a lot of tension or danger, I felt. The Hammer drones were even more faceless and ineffectual than SW stormtroopers. Tony and Rhodey might as well have been tearing through cardboard cutouts of Hammer drones. I think the effect's amplified by rewatching, when 'effortlessly trouncing hordes of incompetent goons' is the set piece for more and more Marvel movies. (Seriously, Thanos? The CHITAURI are your crack troops...?)

[@starkingbiker]

Jacob Hunter that was a 2 minute scene.

[@72Worker]

Try watching the Anime series School Days. Most of the series is so stupid until the end when the MC gets what is coming to him.

[@hardcoreking52]

The anime is very different from the manga. I'm surprised they made such a change.

[@16xthedetail76]

Anime is the biggest offender of this subject. So many anime don't even finish properly...

[@rookiewarrior6419]

C Ziggy *COUGH* Gurren Lagann *COUGH* excuse me something got stuck in my throat

[@elvalight2135]

ikr so many good ones that just up with all the characters just getting killed off >.

[@spaceidiot200]

usually an issue with the manga not being finished and those producing the anime wouldn't know how to write a good/ original ending if you put a gun to their head. Its like filming a movie without the script being finished; you know, like Pirates of the Caribbean sequels.

[@sourmilkandcereal]

THE ENDING IS PARAMOUNT!

[@zanemartin2975]

Sometimes it's because the anime is adapting a manga that isn't finished yet.

[@Psychkemia]

Return of the King's ending wasn't "bad." The only people who didn't like it are the people who didn't read the book and didn't know how long the "epilogue" would be. And even then, the battle of the shire was cut out.

[@PsylomeAlpha]

yeah, they cut out an entire fourth movie by having wormtongue kill saruman.

[@DanKaraJordan]

And by cutting out the Scorching of the Shire, cut out the whole message of the story. This story is not about some orcs and Mordor, but about how war changes people, drawing them together and making them stronger in some ways but also damaging them deeply in others. The hobbits who returned home again were not the same people - they were heroes in their own right but the were also no longer hobbits of the Shire. It is the classic question of whether you can ever go home again. By shifting the focus from the battle of the Shire as the true climax to Modor and the eagles, you create an epilogue that feels overdrawn. But then, Peter Jackson gloried in the warfare of the story, which was directly against Tolkien's vision.

[@Lady_in_the_Radiator]

I would argue that even without the scouring of the Shire, the point was made clear enough that the hobbits were, in many ways, not the same people that they were when they left. There's that wonderful scene of the four of them sitting together silently in the Green Dragon, just looking at each other, as if they're thinking, "is this really what life was like?" And then of course, in the case of Frodo, it's made very clear that he simply can't fit into this world anymore after what he has gone through. I feel like having another climax at the end would have made the movie feel completely overblown. By taking these themes and putting theme in the dénouement, they made the best possible compromise between having a well-structured movie and being faithful to the books.

[@catherinestickels2591]

Socrates' Daemon Tolkien's vision was a story you would enjoy reading. He didn't intentionally include any messages at all. Obviously it has them, all writing does, but he never meant the books to be analyzed for meaning. He was explicit on this point. Also I wouldn't say Jackson glorified war. He showed it as something tragic but necessary. His messages on war are pretty much delivered through Theoden and the tragedies that befall him as king. His son dies and we see a somber funeral and a weeping king, but he still rides out to defend his people.

[@troywright359]

I wouldn't mind ONLY if the extended DVD edition restored Sharky

[@zarbixii]

You should do the top 11 best/worst movie endings.

[@Atlessa]

Why 11?

[@zarbixii]

+Pyrrha Nikos because he likes to go one step beyond

[@Atlessa]

Zarbi Xii At least someone gave the proper response :D

[@suspicioustumbleweed1356]

What's the name of that painting you showed? I like it alot, very painterly

[@lemon.man.6667]

0:41

[@wakerobin9215]

I did some searching and I found it :) It's called "Alley By the Lake" by Leonid Afremov. He seems to use a similar color palette for most of his paintings. Very pretty to me, might get a print for my house sometime.

[@juliencommerenc764]

@@wakerobin9215 You sir are a gentleman and a scholar. This painting may actually be one of my favourites ever. Thank you !

[@brodiecrain13]

insert Neon Genesis Evangelion joke here. congratulations!

[@Teyuqueuiquop]

*clap clap clap*

[@brodiecrain13]

Yoshipearl Kira exactly the creators thought it was bad they created a movie with a better ending

[@Teyuqueuiquop]

Yoshipearl Kira Really? Everything?

[@OrQuattroIDK]

2deep4u

[@brodiecrain13]

Yoshipearl Kira true...and the rebuild movies are pretty cool

[@cheezdoodle96]

Man, I really love these editorials. The normal reviews, though not all bad (the majority of the newer reviews I've seen have been good, if you just ignore the drawn-out sketches), are dragged down by all the sketches, but these editorials are great! I'm also really looking forward to seeing The Nerd and The Critic back together again.

[@wakerobin9215]

For those wondering, the painting at 0:40 is called "Alley by the Lake" by Leonid Afremov. (Already responded to a couple of people asking, but figured I'd post it here anyway). He uses a very similar color palette on most of his work, go Google him if you're interested :)

[@nocturnalwolf8714]

You should talk about movies that started with a great opening but as they kept going it fell apart

[@hackman669]

Iron Man 3 anyone?!

[@deadaccount8054]

@@hackman669 it was perfect from beginning to end

[@HAL-vm3wn]

Again, The Ninth Gate

[@HeadCannon19]

Its Just PJ I nominate Watchmen and The Dark Knight Rises

[@anaquaticowl269]

Actually Dark Knight Rise's opening doesn't make any sense. How the hell did the CIA not know Bane was under that hood? Did they not.bother to see who their captives were? How did he even get there if the CIA didn't round up the prisoners and put the hoods.on themselves?

[@DarkBladeX98]

It's a game but... MASS EFFECT 3

[@FlorenceFox]

LOL, yeah, that was the first thing that came to mind for me too.

[@billwilson8267]

A similar example from a manga is JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. It's literally building up for thirty years and part six ends with "lol everyone died and now everyone is a horse jockey"

[@roseolivas08]

Silver Akstilettos ARKHAM ASYLUM. FUCKING TITAN JOKER WAS A PIECE OF SHIT.

[@wolfpax181]

"Consider yourself a hero" I JUST SAVED THE WHOLE PLANET FROM ALIENS THAT COULD *ALL* KILL ME WITH A SINGLE TOUCH! CONSIDER?! CONSIDER?!

[@SaiScribbles]

Haha... I'm over it. [twitch] I'm... over it...

[@giantWario]

Iron Man 1 ending was great, not sure what you're talking about on that one.

[@svenkampen1647]

He didn't like the bad guy just being a rich ass in a suit and the final battle. You can check out his real thoughts on Iron Man video for details.

[@TheAntiSanta]

Everything about the Jeff Bridges fight is ass. Sure, it is forgivable, but that doesn't make it not bad.

[@TheMasterQuests]

I thought it was a good enough ending but yeah the fight could've been better & the motives too.......

[@tangroro]

I always love these kind of discussion episode, it's like we're being educate in a fun way

[@VolvagiasBlaze]

this also applies to most Tarkovsky movies. Their plot is very slow and it seemes to give more importance to the admitedly beautiful imagery moves, but usually by the end it gets you, the slowness is methodical trying to get you in the same mood as the characters in the story and when it ends it hits you hard. Nostalgia and Solaris are brilliant because of that.

[@VICTORGENTRY]

What was wrong with the ending of iron man 1?

[@GaryTurbo]

He kills War Monger and reveals that hes Iron Man

[@VICTORGENTRY]

Gary Turbo What's wrong with him revealing himself to be iron man? What's wrong with killing warmonger?

[@StudioInkblot]

It's the fight that's underwhelming.

[@regalia8717]

victor gentry That Iron Monger fight. So out of place.

[@mishpattwo3960]

Gary Turbo I thought that was a good ending I can see it being dumb war monger dieing but it was the first time we saw a superhero take odd his mask

[@pyguy7]

This is absolutely and completely true to Video games as well..... cough *MASS EFFECT* *ahem

[@isthisnamegood]

Just have to pretend really hard that the citadel dlc they released at the end is the actual ending.

[@silverangelics]

*Suffers from Life is Strange flashbacks* ...The Journey is important... The Destination is important, as well. Don't disrespect either and you'll be fine, generally speaking to all forms of narrative and stories.

[@1oace768]

Are you a steampunk to?

[@WritingGeekNL]

Blitzball Ace Some video games have great endings though, like Uncharted.

[@cofageekus1524]

I thought the same thing when NC was discussing his points. I would suggest this includes final bosses as well. I simply hate it when everything comes down to an evil god who was manipulating the much better and potentially even relatable antagonist all this time. I'm looking at you, Final Fantasy!

[@sreevidya7299]

Avengers infinity war did the twist perfectly... We were expecting the sequel to said movie but how said movie ended was brilliant... And heartbreaking...

[@strikerbowls791]

Lol shut up

[@KangarooMonkey]

@@strikerbowls791 why?

[@Slushster]

Just watched 3 of your videos in a row and actually really enjoyed. You've just earnt yourself a subscriber

[@RowdyRodimus]

The whole thing about an emotional connection is what a lot of people don't understand when I tell them I like 1989's Batman better than any of the Dark knight films. I was 13 when Batman came out and me and my 2 best friends saw it over and over again. It was the last summer before we had to "start growing up". We were still kids, there wasn't any summer jobs or worrying about High School for us. Now one of us is gone (He died the year after we graduated) so I can pop in Batman and be taken back to those days at age 40. Maybe it's something you have to get older to realize.

[@michaelotis223]

In other words, your nostalgia watching the movie is the deciding factor.

[@vixxcelacea2778]

Exactly, because if you like a movie, great, that doesn't make it good or bad. I personally do not like the 1989 Batman, the world felt so fake and cheesier than a comic book (which for comic books it works).

[@michaelotis223]

Vixx Celacea​​​ agreed. But I think it goes deeper than just nostalgia. I grew up on Burton's Batman and it worked for that era where the paranoia of uncontrollable crime was prevalent. We're now in the era of terrorism paranoia and the Nolan Batman embodied that. And you could argue Affleck's Batman was modeled with the current migration crises with superman being the alien we're not so sure we want in our society. So it's not just about which was the better Batman but rather which one was right for the time I think....

[@missemeriin]

That part where you compared bad endings to friendships being over got me sad. Sorry again about Vessel, looking forward to next week.

[@tarynwilson1223]

missemeriin What happened with vessel

[@missemeriin]

Taryn Wilson from what I can gather they got bought out by Verizon

[@DigiRangerScott]

Taryn Wilson The site was bought out and shut down

[@ericnick4498]

missemeriin Who's vessal?

[@michaelsanford3899]

What happened with Vessel?

[@Diego_Aracena_Kovacevic]

a good example about how an ending can improve a film is Attack of the Clones, that movie goes always from worse to better

[@thesparduck117]

or the Lego Movie which went from cute and passable to one of my favorites.

[@Antasma1]

I thought that's what they said about Phantom Menace

[@Numbuh1NerdX]

And if it weren't for the last act of Phantom Menace, that would've been the most dreadfully boring thing ever put to film. Right now it's only SECOND most dreadfully boring.

[@williamackerman5824]

The characters aren't as good as the OT, but I don't see how the Phantom Menace isn't a passable entertaining blockbuster if you remove the pressure of it being a Star Wars film, which everyone associates with the masterpieces of the original and Empire, even if Jedi had shown already that Star Wars was not perfect. Even if the Phantom Menace had been a pretty good film, it still would have been disappointing due to the high standard the originals set.

[@gman2570]

the acting ,kid anakin, and jar jar are the reason phanthom menace would be hated if it wasnt a star wars movie

[@StarNate2112]

Doug... I just have to say I have been watching you for years and I am so happy for all of your successes! You are able to combine your smarts with fun and entertaining reviews and stances and I always learn a new way of looking at a film from these so I just want to say THANKS, CONGRATS, and keep it Coming! It's easy to see you're doing what you love which is all we can ask for!

[@BennyOhTool]

Speaking of endings that left you wanting more, this editorial ending was gold! Can't wait to see you three review that steaming pile of ass pie!

[@luigi580]

I know, seriously, made me incredibly excited. NC sure knows how to make hype endings!

[@mrcritical6751]

They have to make Andrea do his Krang impersonation

[@BlackFlash09]

I disagree with you about the Iron Man endings: Iron Man: Tony Stark reveals he is Iron Man to the world. That went somewhere. Credits Scene: Because of his hero reveal, Nick Fury invites Tony Stark to the Avengers initiative. Iron Man 2: Tony Stark is rejected from the Avengers initiative. But by the time of the "Avengers" film, he himself brings this up we they invite him back. So, that was pointless. So, you're right out this one. Credits Scene: S.H.E.I.L.D finds Mjolnir, Thor's Hammer. This was a set-up for the Thor film. That went somewhere. Iron Man 3: Tony Stark destroys all of his suits. But by the time of the "Age of Ultron" film, he is back as Iron Man again. So, that was pretty much pointless. Once again, you are right. Credits Scene: Tony Stark is venting with Bruce Banner... Yeah, I'm not going to try to defend this one. Sure, Bruce Banner got a cameo. But that scene was just there for laughs. Once again, you are right.

[@Pikachu2Ash]

Paul Dunbar I think he was talking more about the villans being disappointing. not the very end of the movie.

[@BlackFlash09]

Pikachu2Ash Okay, that makes sense.

[@BBBHuey]

+Pikachu2Ash I really don't see how. We got the Iron Monger. Whiplash was still Whiplash (with a little Crimson Dynamo thrown in). Justin Hammer wasn't that bad either. And while we didn't get the actual Mandarin, Killian was still a pretty tough villain.

[@BlackFlash09]

BBBHuey Because Obadiah Stane was tired of living in the shadows of Howard and Tony Stark. I agree with you there. Technically this was about the Extremists.

[@BBBHuey]

Paul Dunbar "Technically this was about the Extremists." Well yes, that. And of course the terrorist group A.I.M.

[@king-k9675]

if 90% of the movie is good, and the last 10% is bad, the movie is still good.

[@jasonmosher8047]

Right.

[@Why_It]

Wright

[@king-k9675]

Hounoru OBJECTION!!!!!

[@bladenight23]

King-K9 100% wrong

[@ikmnification5737]

If I recall, Batman V. Superman was okay until the last 20 or so minutes. "Save Martha!" - Bad, Saving Martha - Awesome, Doomsday - Bad, Movie Ends - People say it was bad.

[@emmab3275]

I have long accepted that I'm in the minority when I say I love Star Trek Into Darkness, but really? Comparing it to A.I.???

[@hackman669]

How to fix AIs ending. Or is the film lost form the start?

[@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario]

hackman669 have the dad snap against the mom and son and have them change their ways and try to find David And then when he jumps off the cliff they catch him just in time and have the prostabot change his ways after David and his family free him and he decides to love with them There,THE END

[@Novasky2007]

I thought the end was the best bit. It went full star trek for a bit. Fist fights, last min transporting, hell even tribbles. Good stuff.

[@madbrosheo1514]

I am among those who believe that Return of the Jedi has a near perfect ending. The reveal of Vader as a broken man left me with pity for a terrible person that was redeemed in his final moments. Han finally gets Leia. And unless you have a heart of stone, Ewoks are adorable.

[@sameaston9587]

If anyone asks me if I like happy endings or sad endings, I'll answer I like truthful endings.

even in massage parlors...?

[@DanKaraJordan]

The original Secret Window story by Stephen King works because it was so short. As a short story, the twist ending works because the shift does not feel like a betrayal when the whole piece only takes 15 minutes to read. Stretching that out into a 2 hour movie killed it.

[@benm5970]

The crazy thing about the I Am Legend endings is that, depending on which one you watch, it changes your entire perception of the movie, if you watch the directors cut with the ending where Will Smith’s character lives and he sees that these creatures still have humanity and that he’s truly the monster now you see it as a deep, complex action/drama movie with a strong, complex message, but if you watch the theatrical cut where he blows the Darkseekers up and the lady and her kid escape with the cure and save humanity it just becomes a generic, run of the mill zombie flick

[@Achillez098]

For me, the worst movie ending ever was the ending of Desolation of Smaug The film was amazing until the end. "I am FIRE!!! I am...DEATH!!!" "What have we done?!" (credits roll) At that moment, I felt cheated, and for days I resisted the urge to find Peter Jackson and spank his fat ass Several months later when the movied aired on TV, I watched it with my aunt (who hadn't seen it yet). When we got to that ending, her jaw dropped to the floor, she was like "YOU CALL THAT AN ENDING??!!!"

[@ghaleon7]

You can thank the studio, not Jackson for that. Everyone, including him hated it. He was basically thrown into it after del Toro left, and left to fend for himself. He even had to film some of the scenes on the fly because the script or choreography wasn't finished. I see it as the best he could've done with the absolute worst settings.

[@Moonfired]

The fact that the movies are actually good is surprising considering how awful the production was for him and his crew

[@ghaleon7]

***** Yeah they discussed it on the Extended Editions. Everyone was miserable so I can't fault Jackson as much.

[@RhythmGrizz]

Achillez it's called a cliffhanger. everyone knew there was a final installment coming right up. it was fine.

[@Gapeagle]

That ending made me facepalm because I knew Smaug would be killed within the first 5-10 minutes of the next film.

[@AmonQuick_]

Yo am I tripping or did that light look exactly like Andre the black need

[@AmonQuick_]

Nerd*

[@apollofine1125]

Amon quick looked like the same guy who reviewed smurfs with nc

[@TERMINATOR3900]

Nah, must've been a mirage.

[@apollofine1125]

Mirages don't speak

[@Sonichero151]

THAT LAMP IS A SPY!!!!!

[@satoshikatsumoto9007]

Aweome!! Andre, Critic and AVGN in one review! Our prayers have been answered!!

[@baronvonkek8467]

I think that stories with a three act structure are inherently built around the end. All of the story before hand is just setting up the characters and plot for the climax and resolution. So yeah, the end really does matter.

[@rickandrygel913]

The 'Amazing' Spider-man 2 was bad from start to finish, no reason to point it out as a bad ending movie.

[@rickandrygel913]

***** I might actually agree with you.

[@maximk9964]

Yeah, but the emotional effect of you know what was the one thing going for it, it was genuinely moving and if they ended with that, that movie would have had a chance to stick with you. But, NO, they had to add the whole wacky Rhino bit at the end, so you know Spiderman is over it and back to the usual one-liner spewing self, YAY!

[@strugglesnuggledslime7040]

Well problem with that was if you actually knew your spiderman lore thats exactly what you expected the first time you heard Gwen´s name popup in the first movie. Would have worked much better if they actually subverted that point and she survived but yeah,the whole Gwen thing was only one of the movie´s problems.

[@maximk9964]

raped Slime And if you somehow didn't know they "foreshadowed" it so much that if you've seen movies before you'd know what's coming, especially after Spiderman agrees to go to London. The same problem that I had with Godfather 3.

[@keithoneil9894]

That movie was awful from the get go. I hated the first one (the 2012 movie. the 2002 Spider-Man movie is awesome) and had low expectations for it and even those expectations weren't even met.

[@vomithaus1]

A.I.'s ending blew my mind. It opened up the scope of the story to a greater topic. Humans building robots to robots trying to build humans? The ending was everything...

[@DHynes5]

Who else here thinks NC should review Doogal? To me, that movie deserves to be ripped to shreds and is a huge disservice to the name of The Magic Roundabout.

[@matthewmoran5297]

Me!:D It shames me to know how low panndering to American Audiences can go.

[@Nattegoya]

Broken TV Games Oh fuck, I grew up with that movie... I'd absolutely love for him to rip ot apart >:D

[@compedycakemine6960]

Disney is a prime example of an ending not ruining a movie. I LOVE Frozen, I LOVE Tangled, I LOVE Beauty and the Beast. But I FREAKING hate their endings. Yeah yeah, it's a kid's movie/fairy tale they're supposed to have happy endings. But I always hate those "someone dies but is brought back via true love" tropes. It ruined the impact of beast's "death," it ruined the impact of Flynn Rider's "death," and it ruined the impact of Anna's "death." Thus, whenever a main character "dies" in a Disney movie, I will never believe it.

[@samwallaceart288]

Lego Movie was massively improved by its ending; it went from generic to brilliant in the last 20 minutes, which is weird, 'cause if you were to bail out mid-way through I'm sure you'd hate it as cash-grab, but the ending changes everything.

[@liammcnulty1987]

Terminator 3 and The Mist have amazing endings.

[@peppermillers8361]

Terminator 3's ending sort of goes against the themes of the second one.

[@liammcnulty1987]

Pepper Millers I agree, it ruined what made the first two so perfect but at least it wasn't just stopping judgement day again and the ending was a game changer. I appreciated that

[@peppermillers8361]

liammcnulty1987 I can agree with that.

[@liammcnulty1987]

Pepper Millers you ever seen The Mist, pal? What did you think?

[@peppermillers8361]

liammcnulty1987 maybe I will. I only know King thought the ending in the film was better.

[@NataliaNeeSama]

Mass Effect series is a good example for videogames that follow your argument. The whole series was awesome, but just that 10 final minutes of the third game that ruins everything.

[@Kaefer1973]

In regards to ME3, I know at least one person who didn't make it to the end since he hated everything before to much to finish. It wasn't only the ending that was worse than ME2

[@CoolMagmar]

I still don't understand how people feel ME3 was good in any part, the gameplay was great, but the story was horrible from start to finish, so many plot holes and the game brought so many stupid plot points for no reason, and the worse part nothing feel urgent, the game should have more of difficult choices or choices that matter in the end at least...

[@HypercatZ]

"The Mass Effect trilogy is like the super hot girl I once had. Some of the best sex of your life. Hot, passionate. Building toward the end... ...and she ruins it by farting on your balls right before climax." - Fisk Black

[@XenogearSolid]

I wouldn't call The Straight Story dull at all. It's excellently directed and shot, scripted, and acted (and let's not forget the musical score by Angelo Badalamenti). It's of a slower pace but it keeps you invested along for the ride, there are many great moments throughout, and you can feel it building upon it throughout... but yes, the ending does wrap it up perfectly and improve the whole.

[@angbandsbane]

"Can an ending ruin a film?" the title asks. "YES!" immediately shout 99% of people who played Mass Effect 3 before the DLC ending.

[@NostalgiaCriticJunior]

I completely agree with you Critic. There are so many movies that I thought I was going to put in my top 11 favorite movies list that I watch every year but because the ending sucks and know that I had scene them it was not going to be a surprise that the ending is bad I never want to see them again. Personally the ending to War of the Worlds doesn't bother me to much because the really amazing visuals and characters from the rest of the movie save it for me, not enough that I want to watch it on a sort of regular base but if it's on I'll give it a watch. One of the movies that I thought was going to be one of my all time favorites was the Will Smith movie HanCock. I was so enthralled with the movie, I love Smith I love the setting I loved the progression of his character than after the really nice dinner in the movie everything just goes to hell. I don't want to say to much because I will be reviewing that sooner than later, if you are interested well than; Hey I'm NC JR I remember ABOOT it because I need reassurance that I'm not the only one, EH. Wishing NC would review things from your generation(1999-2010s) Never fear your friendly neighborhood Canadian Critic is here. LATEST REVIEW TEEN TITANS.

[@dfistod4148]

Yeah I actually hated War of the Worlds even though they made it appear in modern times it just doesn't adapt well from when it was originally set. And don't even get me started on the girl actress, she wasn't as bad as the awful dead eyed kids from signs but she wasn't good either. OHHH HanCock that movie could have been absolutely amazing I can't wait to see you review it.

[@szczypien]

Man endings are the hardest thing for a story maker to do. There are great endings and then ending that don't hold the film up there is no in between. I think Hancock was terrible and wasn't great at any point in the film but I look forward to you making me see differently on the matter. Keep it up Junior

[@NostalgiaCriticJunior]

Yes it seems that there are only a few good child actors around back than but now a days there are quite a few great ones but I guess they are raised by there parents to be amazing actors so they will become famous and parents can be rich off their kid.

[@kimaniwilsonhunte]

Speaking of endings, which do you thinks works best for "Little Shop of Horrors": the original "happy" ending, or the "Don't Feed the Plants" finale?

[@theodorwilliam6943]

I feel like the don't feed the plants ending really would have ended a movie on a kinda sad not. I mean it's a dark comedy but most dark comedies have at least a somewhat happy ending. i think I would have probably not like the movie as much if they had stuck to the alternate ending

[@NewhamMatt]

That is a great question. By all accounts, if they'd kept the "Don't Feed the Plants" ending, the film would never have been released - the test audience response was that bad. On the other hand, it did keep more to the plot of the musical and its anti-capitalist message. All in all, I'm glad we now have both. Much like with Scott Pilgrim vs the World, both endings are defensible on different levels, but one nearly always seems to appeal to an individual more than the other.

[@DHynes5]

I do understand that it was the original ending of the play, but I thought the alternate ending was god-awful. But that's just me :/

[@NewhamMatt]

Broken TV Games No problems - that's really how those two endings make people respond. If you check either ending on KZbin, you'll find a collection of people on both sides going "This is the ending they should have used" or "This ending is terrible; they should have used the other one".

[@Kaefer1973]

+r0bw00d It's also true that people sometimes get out of bad situations, like the deal with the Devil, by dumb luck without really deserving it. The good end was a reminder of that fact and It kinda pisses me of^-^

[@SuperWillHatch]

What's wrong with the ending to Iron Man 1 and 2?

[@Smeeshie2001]

SuperWillHatch He explains that in his reviews of those movies

[@rockbusterproductions]

Iron Man 2 didn't have a bad ending necessarily, the problem was the whole film wasn't very good. Iron Man 1 had a great ending, and was just a great movie.

[@runefaustblack]

@@rockbusterproductions Actually the ending was the best part. I remember saying to a friend who liked the movie: "I thought it was boring as hell. Nothing ever happens in the first hour and a half. From then on it's awesome though."

[@6to1]

I'm stoked for the AVGN collab... But I just drank some diet pepsi after consuming a yogurt based protein shake and I think I'm going to puke.

[@kicsnasdc]

lol gonna try that shit nlw

[@guinealover6674]

Sure Probably not the best choice of food.

[@DarthTella]

I'm one of those people who didn't mind the ending to Into Darkness. If anything, Final Frontier had the stupidest ending of all the Star Trek films.

[@BeastyBlerd]

I love the ending for "Now You See Me"

[@brenyatta]

Same here! I couldn’t even see it coming

[@silvermist4110]

Spiderman 2 was prime example of how much a very stupid an pointless death can just demolish a movie...like i only staied invested for the love triangle drama an was having fun with the wacky overload of villians, but then the ending just ripped the rug out from under me an ruined it. Deaths for pure shock does NOT equal a good twist

[@afrikasmith1049]

I have a idea for a new video in the future. Is it okay to constantly watch the same film good or bad?

[@blueberrybandit7390]

Just my two cents - It's pretty obviously unhealthy if you're constantly sitting in front of a screen watching a film over and over again. But that answer isn't any fun so, here's another answer. It's good to re-watch films to be more and more aware of the strengths and weaknesses of a film. Sometimes people watch a film they've already watched and start thinking about the underlying themes and hints in the film. Or some have that "HOLY. SHIT." moment that leads to theorizing and toying with some ideas related to the film. Or they realize that a film has its faults, but they can still recognize the talent put into it. That is good. But if you watch the same movie over and over, boredom is inevitable. You're gonna get sick of hearing the same things over and over. You'll stop thinking about the film because you're tuning it all out as though it's just background noise. You'll get desensitized to the emotions in the film which is a MAJOR part of a film. Without that, the film isn't a piece of art or a story anymore, it's just some stuff happening on a screen that you'll tune out and not care about. That is bad.

[@afrikasmith1049]

Blueberry Bandit My question was meant for your second answer. I think there's a bit more meaning to your second answer. In a way it also applies to film critics too.

[@sir.hopper]

I suppose it depends on *why* you're re-watching the movie. Personally, I tend to go back to my favorite TV shows _(which I know are not movies, but the concept- I believe- still hold up)_ because I enjoy looking farther into the way the story was presented. I get to see the character progression and notice things I didn't before. I am a die-hard Avatar fan, and have watched both Airbender and Korra many many times; and each time I do another run-through there's always something I didn't notice before, be it a random background element, or some foreshadowing that wouldn't be given purpose for another season. I'm a story writer myself, so noticing all of these small details fascinates me. I know some people who do this with movies as well. A lot of movies have such small hints that suggests what the climax will be, and it usually takes a few re-watches to see them all. So with that said, not every movie is that re-watchable. If the director didn't add any easter eggs or minor details to the movie, then there isn't much to gain from a second or third watch-through.

[@katt-the-pig]

I watched The Lion King so much that I had the entire script memorized at one point. Still my favorite movie today. ^_^

[@AB-gt7yg]

I like rewatching movies because every time I'll notice something new that I didn't notice before. Ex. I get the joke now, the backround in that one scene was funny, I understand that line now, ect.

[@Sonichero151]

This will be the Crossover we've been waiting for......

[@CalebCraft10]

Danny Caracciolo Nah. CellSpex, JonTron, and Nostalgia Critic is the collab I've been looking for.

[@Sonichero151]

Marshadow the Magical Never heard of CellSpex....

[@CalebCraft10]

Danny Caracciolo Look her up. She's like a female nostalgia critic: getting angry about bad movies, and going in depth when a movie is good.

[@Sonichero151]

Marshadow the Magical neat

[@mrcritical6751]

Mine would be a crossover with Hunter or Bobsheax, Hunter because he's a pony so the evilina jokes just write themselves and Bobsheax because their interactions would be hilarious

[@derickvermillion5561]

10:45 should have said "is it cuz I'm black."

[@inarjollyhound]

People Didn't like the ending to Star Trek Into Darkness? This is news to me, I quite liked it.

[@LillianEileenSnape]

I don't like it because I think it spat in the face of the original Wrath Of Khan by reversing the roles and then instantly bringing Kirk back. I just don't think it had the heart of the original, but then again, the original had three seasons and a movie of build up, and Into Darkness had 2009 and that was it.

[@FrancisXLord]

I actually read it as paying respect to Wrath of Khan, and I still watch Wrath of Khan every couple of weeks, it is my favourite Star Trek film. There was the Kobayashi Maru (I know, sad that I can spell that), there was Khan and then, just in case you were comfortable enough to think that they wouldn't change things, they changed them. It woke me up in the cinema I can tell you, so it did its job. Did all those people who don't like the ending of Into Darkness not see the 2009 Star Trek film. It was, I thought, clearly implied that this new timeline will not necessarily follow the last one. That means that there will be variations and I thought making one of them such a twist from what we were expecting allowed for a setup, that was probably lost on those complaining about that twist being disrespectful, that got my blood pumping because I so wanted to see Spock chase down Khan. I thought that was a pretty emotional setup, but you don't feel the emotion if you're too busy emoting about how it varies from the previous version.

[@FrancisXLord]

That's it, decided I'm watching Into Darkness. I love the ending.

[@iamaronman]

I was thinking the same thing, the timelines were changed so it would make sense that there were little deviations like that. I recently bought all three star treks on blu-ray because i like them so much. I also really enjoyed the wrath of khan when i saw it and it felt like into the darkness was paying homage to it. It felt good seeing spock "get revenge" for what happened in the other timeline.

[@teacherfromthejungles6671]

I didn't even watch any ST movies except for Wrath of Khan

[@Danny-tf3fd]

The only Iron Man movie ending I hated was Iron Man 3, and I didn't really like that movie anyway. Pepper Exstremis infection is glossed over, Tony apparently put off the surgery that could've saved his life for three years for some reason, and he blows up all his Iron Man suits, throwing away the responsibility of being an Avenger. Yes, it's not a Spider-Man movie, but that still bothers me.

[@rockbusterproductions]

I had a huge problem with that when I saw Age Of Ultron, and Tony doesn't even reference destroying all his suits. Yet he's still got all of his stuff back and he's back with the Avengers. What the fuck?

[@Danny-tf3fd]

Well, to be fair, Age of Ultron takes place at least two years later. Steve probably came to Tony to ask for help with Hydra. Besides, he only had two suits in that movie (three if you count the Hulkbuster), and those drones, which were only a safety thing, and can't Tony whip up an Iron Man suit in like five minutes?

[@rickycollins7723]

Danny Butler Well I loved Iron Man 3, (my favorite iron man movie and one of my favorite superhero movies) That ending would have been much better, if it had been less easy. It would have been better if instead of having surgery, the ending shot could be him, peaceful and with pepper, but knowing he still has the fake heart, reminding him he always has and will be iron man. Also, it would be his last movie.

[@antoniusmetal]

A problem the character of Iron Man sometimes presents even in comic books is his unlimited resources. Sometimes it's like no matter what happens or what gets destroyed it doesn't really matter, because he has huge amounts of money and skill so he can just keep building unlimited power. Something that really bothered me about the movie, although it somewhat makes sense, is the fact that suits can operate remotely and do not need a pilot to be there. That makes it unnecessary for Tony Stark to be in a suit, risk his life and suffer danger and harm, which is what makes a hero great. Then again, most likely because of that they still put him in a suit, but because of the other scenes it now seems pointless to do it.

[@deadaccount8054]

"throwing off his responsibility of being an avenger" Go watch iron man 3.

[@maleficking6556]

"Hi I'm Andre and I'm a black nerd" "Hi I'm Doug and I'm a white nerd" "Hi I'm James and I'm the FUCKING Nerd!" That joke has finally been fulfilled.

[@NWCountryGirl17]

Unpopular opinion "I love INTO DARKNESS"

[@matthewmoran5297]

Me too! :)

[@suezotiger]

NWCountryGirl17 A majority of people liked it going by review scores. It's mostly star trek fans (like me) that didn't like it

[@ghost_nebula5822]

+suezotiger I was raised on Star Trek and I thought it was okay. Everything after that first movie is filed under its own folder.

[@Kaefer1973]

+suezotiger Many Star Trek fans, like me or my brother, did like it, but didn't consider it Star Trek whatsoever. It's a Science fiction movie with people and objects that bear an odd resemblance to those of Star Trek (pretty much the same as most of the old Star Trek movies)

[@HeatForce]

Kaefer1973 how could u not consider it star trek?

[@cellblock776]

I've never gone to film school or studied film making but these videos make me feel like I am taking a class on the subject and I always come away with a different perspective on the films I've seen.

[@Abedeuss]

Every ending can ruin everything. Mass Effect 3 is a good example. 28 hours + two previous games... and we got shit.

[@leokrupp4442]

I heard a rumor that valve was afraid to do Half Life 3 due to the backlash ME3 received.

[@futurestoryteller]

On the one hand, after a certain amount of time you're going to get whiners, and on the other hand everything I heard about that controversy says they royally fucked the dog, especially when they told people they "wouldn't get meaningless carbon copy endings" or whatever. You don't say you're going to do the opposite of what you intend to do! Especially when you said it to _comfort_ people! I think it should go without saying that creates false expectations! Somehow they missed the writing on the wall when it comes to that one. What - did they think nobody would learn what the other endings were!?

[@Abedeuss]

+futurestoryteller The endings were shit because they WERE color-coded carbon copies, where nothing you did in the past 2 games mattered. Nothing. You were a Paragon, or Renegade, killed character X, saved character Y, committed action Z. Nothing. Pick your color and enjoy space magic.

[@futurestoryteller]

Abedeuss I know. I think I made it pretty clear that I understood that, but okay.

[@strugglesnuggledslime7040]

Eh lets not pretend that the ending was the only thing wrong with ME3.

[@benabramowitz18]

Here's an interesting editorial topic: Is Disney Ruining the Film Industry? I mean, think about it. Every week they announce a new live-action remake, they own Marvel and Disney Animation-two companies that seem to be following a formula that people like too much to notice, they've cannibalized Pixar and forced them to put out unnecessary sequels every year, and they're promising a new Star Wars movie every year until the end of time, which could be worrying if TFA's plot points and the Rogue One reshoots are any indication. Meanwhile, they don't have anything original on the schedule in the near future. And some promising movies with big budgets and original ideas like The BFG and Tomorrowland got no marketing. And Disney could solve this by investing in some low- or mid-budget adult dramas (they still own Touchstone, by the way), but they won't promote those because they can't milk a cinematic universe out of those properties. And of course, with all these moves, Disney has crushed every other studio at the box office, encouraging everyone else to try to compete in a battle they can't win. This has led to a very underwhelming time for blockbusters in general (DC's movies, Paramount wanting a Transformers Cinematic Universe, Sony throwing $150M at an underwritten Ghostbusters, etc.) that looks to get worse as everyone tries to copy Disney, pushing originality more and more out of the film industry.

[@DeathAlchemist]

Benjamin Abramowitz The BFG was based on a kid's book by Roald Dahl.

[@matthewmoran5297]

I don't think so.

[@batt3ryac1d]

Benjamin Abramowitz the non Disney movies you listed did bad cause they sucked. People always get hyped as fuck for DC movies and they sucked balls everytime.

[@sarasamaletdin4574]

It is other studios and audiences problem for watching Disney and not theirs. And there is original films from them, they are just rare since audiences are not interested in them.

[@Nightman221k]

They're kind of creating friction between their own properties with the live action remakes with people arguing wich version was of higher value. I'm not really looking forward to Beauty and the Beast live at all because the animated version was PERFECT, there's really no way it could be improved upon and I already know people are itching to want to say that the new movie is better just because it stars Hermione from Harry Potter (even though they don't know any other facts making it seem like it will be better >_> )

[@OctagonCookies]

Speaking of endings, this review's ending was fantastic I watched it like 100 times.

[@BanditOfBandwidth]

answer to the videotitle: "It was all just a dream"