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MERCH: tinyurl.com/go... | Can Gohan be the main character of Dragon Ball Super AFTER Dragon Ball Super Super Hero? Goku is the main character but Gohan is once again in the spotlight. Is Gohan Beast suited for it and we discuss ideas on how it can work. I was joined by ‪@LSMMIKE‬
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@chewezx1767
@chewezx1767 Жыл бұрын
I think Gohan would be a breath of fresh air every arc or so. Piccolo as well. There's really no reason why only Goku has to have all the spotlight at this point.
@fanofpink
@fanofpink Жыл бұрын
Or Vegeta either.
@j04370859
@j04370859 Жыл бұрын
Except if him and Vegeta are the only popular ones.
@chewezx1767
@chewezx1767 Жыл бұрын
@@j04370859 Goku or Vegeta aren’t the only popular characters. In fact in most popularity polls, Gohan would exceed Vegeta back in the day. And even SH grossed more money then DBS Broly according to Toei.
@j04370859
@j04370859 Жыл бұрын
@@chewezx1767 Superhero was also in more theatres than Broly, so that gave it the advantage, but ok.
@chewezx1767
@chewezx1767 Жыл бұрын
@@j04370859 That’s fine. Doesn’t take away from the fact that it’s the most successful DB movie ever and Goku and Vegeta weren’t the lead characters.
@perfectchichi
@perfectchichi Жыл бұрын
I think Gohan and Brolly should train together. I think their weakpoint is their power is tied more to their emotions and thats something they could work on together.
@windghost2
@windghost2 Жыл бұрын
Gohan could help Broly improve on mastering his power much more than Goku and Vegeta could. I hope we see it!
@mr.leroysmith7012
@mr.leroysmith7012 Жыл бұрын
then just let broly train with kale, since they are just the polar opposite of each other anyways, they have thr same power activation
@hunnidshottas1808
@hunnidshottas1808 Жыл бұрын
@@mr.leroysmith7012 man Fuc kale she ain’t Frm our universe nigga 😂
@breakablehate2207
@breakablehate2207 Жыл бұрын
Gohans rage is greater than brolys cause he's a hybrid, but it still will be nice to see
@abominable.7800
@abominable.7800 Жыл бұрын
It's a good balance too. Broly can help gohan express his anger more in battle for power and gohan can teach broly how to be kept calm in battle for efficency. both can sharpen each others strengths and eliminate the others weakness
@NeverwascooL
@NeverwascooL Жыл бұрын
Bro I've been wanting the split story since they introduced the other universes. It's a golden route that can let the story progress so much longer
@romeherrera210
@romeherrera210 Жыл бұрын
One thing is for certain that we can all agree on as DB fans and that is we are going to need beast Gohan's form when the inevitable battle with Black Frieza happens
@ltreanor99
@ltreanor99 Жыл бұрын
I believe beast Gohan will be the one that fights black frieza eventually specially if it's on earth.
@pureakkuracy7510
@pureakkuracy7510 Жыл бұрын
vegeta should get the final kill on frieza it won’t happen tho 💀
@Am1nTheSaiyan
@Am1nTheSaiyan Жыл бұрын
@@pureakkuracy7510 who knows bro the next arc is gonna happen either way 👀
@j04370859
@j04370859 Жыл бұрын
Nah, people wanna see Vegeta vs Frieza.
@Humble0721
@Humble0721 Жыл бұрын
Vegeta ultra ego form is perfect to fight black frieza.
@joshualowe959
@joshualowe959 Жыл бұрын
Gohan can be the main focus now and then like in the Cell Saga, The Bojack movie, & the Superhero movie
@selfloathinggivesmelife7810
@selfloathinggivesmelife7810 Жыл бұрын
I can’t see them ever having Gohan replace Goku as the MAIN protagonist, but Super Hero’s success definitely proves that people wanna see him in a more prominent role than what he had before the movie. To expand upon what you guys said about them alternating protagonists, they could even do arcs mixing character dynamics. For example, having Goku and Piccolo go on an adventure together, then an arc focusing on Gohan and Vegeta. It’d be interesting seeing characters that don’t normally interact with each other clash dynamics.
@shootingreal5945
@shootingreal5945 Жыл бұрын
Yeah..break up the Goku Vegeta duo that we get all the time..I would love to see a Gohan Vegeta adventure arc or a Piccolo Vegeta adventure arc.
@KTMsoldier1988
@KTMsoldier1988 Жыл бұрын
Hated the Super Hero movie....they literally took gohan from being one of the weakest characters at the biggining when he could barely lift piccolos gear to probably being stronger than Goku and Vegeta in less than 1 day. Seems way to Far Fetched.
@hammy6968
@hammy6968 Жыл бұрын
@@KTMsoldier1988 That’s ironic.
@twontwon1827
@twontwon1827 Жыл бұрын
@@KTMsoldier1988 that ls false gohan has like 2 -3 different base forms By moro arc gohan is the 3rd strongest outside of goku and vegeta . Gohan in ultimate ..power ranges to ssb ! What people dont realize is gohan ssj2 transformation was so strong that he literally was stronger then his buu arc ssj2 self and goku and vegeta . Gohan potential is that high whenever he transforms. Gohan unlocking beast literally awakened his potential at a godlier level ! Its not something that has randomly happened he has always shown this potential ! Vegeta constantly speaks on it etc ! So it makes sense why his beast form was that powerful with or without training . Hell gohan and goku had the same training yet by the end of cell arc he literally was wayyyy stronger then goku
@pastellemochi
@pastellemochi Жыл бұрын
He was supposed to be the main character after cell saga but goku fuckboys complained about it so he scratched it off
@Lordmoldeybutt
@Lordmoldeybutt Жыл бұрын
I remember when geekdom never showed his face. Been following since 2015, gah damn
@josshua2399
@josshua2399 Жыл бұрын
Great video enjoyed the discussion
@AndrewEvenstar
@AndrewEvenstar Жыл бұрын
this is an awesome video and topic ! awesome you got LSM on here too. both of you are legends !
@roxtechs
@roxtechs Жыл бұрын
Toriyama, Toyotaro, Toei animation pointing and laughing: Hell no
@tanvirali7817
@tanvirali7817 Жыл бұрын
Love this duo I hope there are more collabs to come
@KamiAnimeS1
@KamiAnimeS1 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Jaxzius
@Jaxzius Жыл бұрын
Gohan can Change DB, bring more Concepts and Aspects. And True Forms for Human Z fighters/ Future Earthlings. His Studies and Training has been on Ki control/Spirit control. On the Mind/Body/Soul/Spirit etc. That’s where his Beast form came from. A “Final(Gohan)” Full Body Manifestation(“Fullness”).
@josephdecicco3177
@josephdecicco3177 Жыл бұрын
It’s the perfect time to do two stories at once since so close to the end of Z and Goku leaving with Uub. Maybe Uub will train with Goku on Beerus planet now since has God Ki post Z and Gohan be the leader of the next generation on Earth with Trunk, Goten & Pan
@jlopez240gaming7
@jlopez240gaming7 Жыл бұрын
That would be awesome.
@SpammytheHedgehog
@SpammytheHedgehog Жыл бұрын
He's gonna have to fight both Goku and Vegeta in that.
@user-bt9yh8jn1q
@user-bt9yh8jn1q Жыл бұрын
He literally doesn't.😂
@herculesburgess6773
@herculesburgess6773 Жыл бұрын
Wyndell Lee The Spammer Definitely especially how strong vegeta & goku has gotten lately including in their base forms.
@sixstrz8310
@sixstrz8310 Жыл бұрын
I don’t get your logic behind that the strongest doesn’t make him the main character by that sense Zeno is the main character
@Chiefteeth1
@Chiefteeth1 Жыл бұрын
@@herculesburgess6773 it’s already confirmed that the heroes arc takes place after granolah arc. This proves without a shadow of a doubt that gohan is the strongest Saipan currently
@herculesburgess6773
@herculesburgess6773 Жыл бұрын
@@Chiefteeth1 My guy I know that.
@aramboyd3906
@aramboyd3906 Жыл бұрын
I could definitely see Gohan taking the role of Goku as the main character and have Piccolo take the role of Vegeta as the second protagonist.
@Liquid12322
@Liquid12322 Жыл бұрын
Naaaa
@linkmaster253
@linkmaster253 Жыл бұрын
"Role of Goku" that would mean Gohan literally starts calling himself Goku
@Eminster
@Eminster Жыл бұрын
​@@Liquid12322you're boring
@We_Are_I_Am
@We_Are_I_Am Жыл бұрын
It's possible, but the story has to be written around gohan's reactive nature, and piccolos passive - inquisitive nature. They arent proactive characters like goku and vegeta. And for the love of goodness have someone else besides Goku learn Kaio Ken, like all the human Z fighters. Piccolo's regenerative nature would make him a very viable candidate for Kaioken.
@Liquid12322
@Liquid12322 Жыл бұрын
@@We_Are_I_Am go watch super again and remind yourself why Gohan is not a good character anymore. Piccolo was one of my favorite characters till he became useless. This movie made him powerful but he's gonna be back to his old ways either way
@superelite5133
@superelite5133 Жыл бұрын
It would be cool but realistically I’m going to say no it’s just not gohans character to continuously fight and challenge opponents unless he has a reason and his character isn’t going to suddenly change chat.
@KamiAnimeS1
@KamiAnimeS1 Жыл бұрын
I definitely agree he’s a scholar.
@adamcarr8120
@adamcarr8120 Жыл бұрын
A threat to his family is all he needs. Doesn't need to be a challenge. Just needs to be about protecting Pan
@KamiAnimeS1
@KamiAnimeS1 Жыл бұрын
@@adamcarr8120 obviously I agree with you he could do both. That’s the problem with a Gohan‘s character. We keep seeing stagnation not regression. We seen four times so far. Of him learned the lesson that he could do is dream of being a great scholar and also fight. So hopefully after this fourth time of doing it we could get that lesson in a good continuation. Rather than what we got in Buu, resurrection of F, tournament of power, and lastly superhero.
@padraig-bobotia-maria5176
@padraig-bobotia-maria5176 Жыл бұрын
Gohan in the manga is more like goku and vegeta, the dbz and dbs anime make him too goofy
@Jaxzius
@Jaxzius Жыл бұрын
His Studies and Training are on Ki control, Spirit/Mind/Soul/Body. Gohan can Change DB and help make Human Z Fighters reach their True Forms. That’s what his Beast Transformation is from. A “Final(Gohan)” form. He’s a Mega Genius, and has the Experience in all the aspects. There could be good Story Building with Gohan, but nah we’re fine with a Mediocre Story
@TrueReverse74
@TrueReverse74 Жыл бұрын
Gohan has never been the right character to take the main character role. It doesn't make him a bad character, just not the right one. He's a family man and should stay on earth to fulfill the goal that future gohan was unable to. Gohan is not fit to continue goku's legacy, ideology or any torch that makes goku, goku. I think the stories splitting makes sense, since most of the cast has to stay on earth and i'd like to see more stuff with goten and trunks, maybe being galactic patrolman or awakening an ancient evil since they are thrill seekers themselves good job with that geekdom.
@filipefigueiredo9847
@filipefigueiredo9847 Жыл бұрын
You probably haven't watched Z in it's entirety or don't remember it quite well because up to the end of the Cell saga, it was all building up for Gohan to become the main character Then Toriyama said fuck it, this won't work without Goku, the Buu saga was a mess, and then he decided to make it more about Goku and Vegeta again But before that, it was all about building up Gohan Not trying to be an ass or something man, I just disagree with you that "he was never supposed to be the main character at all", during the first 2/3 of DBZ I believe he actually was
@TrueReverse74
@TrueReverse74 Жыл бұрын
@@filipefigueiredo9847 I have watched all of dragon ball, from OG to Super, I'm not ignorant to the attempt to make him the main character. I didn't say "He was never meant to be a main character", he obviously was built up for it, I said he's not FIT to be the main character. There's a difference. at least for dragon ball and I stand by that, reread my comment, He doesn't fit any of Goku's ideals beyond just being strong, now you can argue that he doesn't need to, and we can argue about that, but with the way dragon ball is written Gohan is someone that should stay on earth to pursue his scholarly dreams, it shows that what trunks fought for was worth it, because he lives the life he's always wanted. He could've played his role up as a hero, to be different from goku, but Goten and Trunks have taken that role instead. Right now, if dragon is to have another protagonist, it has to be someone who is willing to take up goku's role, his morals, ideology and perspective on life and to live as a martial artist. Gohan does not live like that, nor does he want. He's a sleeping beast waiting for his time and that's not a role befitting of the protagonist of dragon ball. Whether you think Z was supposed to be the story of Gohan or not it's irrelevant, Toriyama saw the flaws in making Gohan the main character and I agree with the decision. Now if you wanna talk about whether that was a good decision or not we can, but let's not mischaracterize my arguement.
@227060
@227060 Жыл бұрын
I dont even want gohan to be the main character. I just want him to have at least as much respect by the narrative as Vegeta has
@ZenRyoku
@ZenRyoku Жыл бұрын
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@erikflytalker267
@erikflytalker267 Жыл бұрын
I had an idea similar to the alternating stories on one of your older vids. Dragon Ball, especially now, is big enough to be its own expanded universe like Marvel, DC, Star Wars, etc. it could go WAY larger than what it’s limiting itself to
@taheahshahdaiah6422
@taheahshahdaiah6422 Жыл бұрын
For earth villains they can easily go back to the demon race like dabura. They never really explore that.
@titolove6895
@titolove6895 Жыл бұрын
I'm just sick of it being Goku and Vegeta show and everyone else is backstage 😑😑 so when other characters get the spotlight I'm all for it
@j04370859
@j04370859 Жыл бұрын
Which is what we are getting so far.
@fai1646
@fai1646 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think so Goku and vegeta can’t be replaced
@elpopman2055
@elpopman2055 Жыл бұрын
Gohan can be Dragonball version of Kisuke(Bleach)... It's frustrating that all this talk about Goham becoming a Scholar and he never utilizes his intelligence
@balsamic2947
@balsamic2947 Жыл бұрын
I’m not gonna lie I feel that fans could make a much better story than the official writers cause we know what we all want and it feels like they don’t care about the fanbase but only the money plus the potential of the series in general and not seeing them use it just hurts
@KamiAnimeS1
@KamiAnimeS1 Жыл бұрын
It’s not us making better stories. All we’re doing is continuing his character from the Buu saga. Because the problem with these creators is what they don’t regress characters. They have character stagnate. Because like what was in the video they made Gohan learn the same lesson four times. Which is absolutely fucking stupid. When we could’ve had four chances of different storylines. That’s our biggest be as fans of Gohan. Because obviously we all know yes the man can do both he could be a Greek scholar living his dream. And also be a fighter to protect his family. He doesn’t have to be Goku 2.0. We know that. It just gets irritating for us because it’s like they stop using Gohan and they keep forgetting the development they gave him. And the circle of hell commence of repeating it. Hopefully after this fourth time this shit doesn’t happen again. And he’s training when his time off of not being in the spotlight.
@balsamic2947
@balsamic2947 Жыл бұрын
@@KamiAnimeS1 I wasn’t just talking about Gohan but dragon ball. We never explored magic when It had a lot of potential during the Buu saga we never really explored God Ki. Plus the other universes and we know nothing of the universes that didn’t participate in the TOP.
@scumbad7953
@scumbad7953 Жыл бұрын
I would say probably not but I do appreciate the focus being taken off of Goku and given to other characters for periods of time, he should be used like icing.
@KamiAnimeS1
@KamiAnimeS1 Жыл бұрын
The icing on top
@samueloak1600
@samueloak1600 Жыл бұрын
@@KamiAnimeS1 exactly
@Luke-kj1rj
@Luke-kj1rj Жыл бұрын
Pretty much every fan that cares has better ideas than the actual writers. They just arent that invested like we are
@justinlynch3
@justinlynch3 Жыл бұрын
Another thing is some fans apparently don't believe multi-tasking exist. I've literally heard it argued "Well Gohan can't maintain his strength because he wants a life of peace." It's like they think you either have to train all day every day like Goku & Vegeta, or not train at all. No in-between whatsoever. Which is quite frankly ridiculous. I honestly think Gohan can settle down, have a family, get a job, and with just minimal training, even as little as 2 or 3 hours in the afternoon after work, maintain his power perfectly fine. So Gohan can wake up, go to work, come home, train a couple of hours as the sun starts to settle, spend the rest of the night relaxing with his family until bed, and that's all Gohan needs. I think people forget how easily Gohan can gain power. This is a guy who went into the time chamber with Goku as a base Saiyan. In LESS then ONE YEAR Gohan obtained Super Saiyan, Mastered Super Saiyan, and surpassed Goku in power (yes people Gohan was more powerful even as a SSJ1 then Goku). Gohan does not need to turn into Goku & Vegeta to maintain his strength. Even just a small, just a tiny bit of effort towards training, no more then a couple hours at most out of his day put towards training. And I see no reason Gohan wouldn't be able to easily maintain his strength. So this whole repeating story arch of Gohan getting stronger just to lose all his power, this story arch needs to die. Gohan CAN have both a normal Earthling life AND be ready to take any major threats that approach the planet. I mean hell, even GT realised Gohan can do both. But Toriyama can't?
@CagedAura
@CagedAura Жыл бұрын
The dual storylines would make sense continuity-wise too since Bulma says she hasn’t seen Goku in 5 years at the end of Z. He could have been exploring the universe or maybe even training/fighting in universe 6 with the other Saiyans, leaving Earth to the other warriors.
@Action-Punk
@Action-Punk Жыл бұрын
I believe Gohan is only ready to fight not start the battle but it would be interesting for him to defend earth while Goku and Vegeta are off planet.
@e-roc6472
@e-roc6472 Жыл бұрын
Earth's protectors: Gohan, Piccolo, Gotenks Universal Protectors: Goku n Vegeta (later Uub) Wild Card/Contigency: Broly (I don't imagine him to seek out conflict if not provoked)
@reinsama2.09
@reinsama2.09 Жыл бұрын
Toriyama: No
@gregkareem9824
@gregkareem9824 Жыл бұрын
Plot armor: go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
@steveyj3002
@steveyj3002 Жыл бұрын
The way Goku and Vegeta and now broly constantly train..... It's always going to be a constant battle between all of them
@jamiemcneil9682
@jamiemcneil9682 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you that there should be ab arc about Goku and Vegeta and then one about Gohan and Piccolo. To go a little bit further, the broly, moro, and the superhero story are prime examples of how to use the characters. One story was about Vegeta and Goku. One used all the characters, and the other was about the earth based characters, and that's a great format for storytelling.
@gachristian1
@gachristian1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for using my drawing from twitter! ❤❤
@KamiAnimeS1
@KamiAnimeS1 Жыл бұрын
Lit
@KTMsoldier1988
@KTMsoldier1988 Жыл бұрын
The fact that Gohan went from being weak at the beggining of Hero to being one of the strongest characters in a matter of less than a day is a little far fetched.
@cosmosofinfinity
@cosmosofinfinity Жыл бұрын
It's like if Goku caught up to fighting Beerus in Battle of Gods without even the special god ritual, but just power that apparently was in him the whole time as per usual. Gohan had the power to turn SS2 against Cell because of his anger potential, but he still had to train for it to be of any use when it came out in the first place. Just another Raditz headbutt wouldn't cut it anymore with Cell. And Gohan is, like Broly and SS2 Kefla, able to catch up to super saiyan blues with seemingly just his own ordinary mortal power... Even though it's been shown in the Copy-Vegeta arc that regular ass Vegeta can effortlessly solo SS3 Gotenks at that point
@loki.odinson
@loki.odinson Жыл бұрын
So tired of it being "The Goku Show". Gohan being the main character again is long overdue and well-deserved. In particular I loved the Cell Saga and it remains my favorite arc. Vegeta deserves his own main character arc too.
@ninjawaver
@ninjawaver Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same idea as Geekdom...Goku deals with space and multiversal threats and Gohan takes the lead on Earth 🌎. I think NOW is the most ideal time. But WILL they do it? I'm doubtful bc Gohan keeps going back to not training despite this events. Hopefully they don't screw this up 😂
@jibril2473
@jibril2473 Жыл бұрын
Here are two scenarios I was thinking they could do to make Gohan the main character: (1) Create a storyline where Goku Vegeta & Broly go off to other universes and train their versions of Saiyans or just have them go on some multiversal adventure of some sort. Just a plot scenario where you can take them out the picture without killing them off, which brings me to my next option; (2) I wouldn’t “kill” them off per say, but maybe seal them off in another dimension or universe where time stops, maybe introduce a new villain or underling of Black Frieza that has the ability to manipulate space-time.
@ChaoticConform
@ChaoticConform Жыл бұрын
Honestly they could take advantage of this they could decide to have goku and vegeta Weiss and Berrus traveling much like goku did in GT and have gohan on Earth defending Earth while goku and vegeta are out combating other. Universal beings this would bring relevance back to the heroes on Earth. Also while building on goku and vegeta
@MohamedAli-bn7in
@MohamedAli-bn7in Жыл бұрын
There was a moment where Gohan showed that intelligence in the anime in the Tournament of Power where he told everyone to stick to the strategy as the Team leader for Universe 7. I think this was something that was forgotten to be mentioned although I haven't read the manga so i'm not sure if that was done. That was one time I really was like "ohh yeh!, Gohan is smart".
@mxo.
@mxo. Жыл бұрын
Personally I'd wanna see them focus on Uub and pan
@toddcline9343
@toddcline9343 Жыл бұрын
I would thinking seeing a joint dojo with Gohan and Videl could be cool.
@leeuchiha5661
@leeuchiha5661 Жыл бұрын
Here is a thought, make an arc with a dual threat between universe 6, 7 and 11, Frieza is the villian and his force is multi universal, the dragon balls shut down all of the angels and gods. Most of the pride troopers have been defeated, Topo and Vegeta are forced to become gods of destruction to get their angles back, now split the cast between these universes.
@Izadirad1995
@Izadirad1995 Жыл бұрын
I think to have a duel story plot they have to reevaluate how they make villains. Dragon ball likes to have 1 top villain a arc and maybe some subordinates. If we were gonna have two stories then they would need at least 2 main antagonists. And if they aren’t careful we might end up with a fairy tail or bleach scenario where every important protagonist gets a fight but they chop around and it gets predictable and cumbersome watching 12 important battles a arc I would love master goku. Pan, uub, and broly as students would be so cool. I also think your right with the u6 saiyans.
@jeremiahjones9940
@jeremiahjones9940 Жыл бұрын
I wish they'd do something with the humans. Imagine Chichi and Vedel getting to do something.
@KamiAnimeS1
@KamiAnimeS1 Жыл бұрын
Homie what? Like here’s the problem I would agree with you. But whenever we think about the stories we keep thinking in a western perspective. Because I don’t want this series becoming like the Flash tv show. Where everybody’s doing some thing where it doesn’t make sense. If they do something like Hunter X Hunter that would be interesting. But at the end of the day I would agree with you
@jeremiahjones9940
@jeremiahjones9940 Жыл бұрын
​@KamiAnimeS1 I just wanna see something like the random one shots Marvel and DC do. Every now and then give Krillin and Tien something to do and scale back the power levels a bit.
@KamiAnimeS1
@KamiAnimeS1 Жыл бұрын
@@jeremiahjones9940 agreed. OK I thought you were about to say something insane. But here’s my problem when they scale it back or even go crazy when he scale it up. All these ideas aren’t inherently bad. The problem is with the writing. You could do any story idea. Being grounded or going galactic. If the villains aren’t written good, The characterization is bad, or the world building is bad. The stories going to be trash. So if they do either of these I hope it’s just reading good. Like the concept of Suspension of disbelief. When I use that I don’t go by our world. If it doesn’t make sense in the world that they made that’s when I start asking questions. But yet sum it all up I agree with you
@j04370859
@j04370859 Жыл бұрын
But that wouldn't be interesting at this point or satisfying. They'd be fighting fodder characters, and people would complain about that.
@jeremiahjones9940
@jeremiahjones9940 Жыл бұрын
@j04370859 idk. People liked the garlic Jr filler arc and they was kid gohan, piccolo and krillin. I think people are starved for anything but new hair colors at this point. The db universe had time travel, a God pantheon, multiverse, demon realm. Lots to work with.
@GabrielCruz-xj6ir
@GabrielCruz-xj6ir Жыл бұрын
I dont see goku as a teacher i see him inviting new people who he just met into beerus home planet for whis to train them
@madalinfilip6352
@madalinfilip6352 Жыл бұрын
Gohan Beast is strong for the moment but that can change We already saw that happening Mystic Gohan was the strongest mortal until the Battle of God's came and Goku Super Saiyan God was born who surpassed Mystic Gohan So the answer to your question is Goku was and is and will be the main character of the series
@j04370859
@j04370859 Жыл бұрын
Gohan, being the strongest at the end of Z, is up for debate. We don't really know if he was or not.
@stormtreeproductions6477
@stormtreeproductions6477 Жыл бұрын
If there are two parallel storylines- whatever is happening in story A needs to connect with story B so that at the climax, the characters unite and each has the piece of the puzzle the other needs.
@savaget2058
@savaget2058 Жыл бұрын
Heroes on Earth and heroes in space? It's almost like they forgot all about the Moro arc. The way it was written to separate characters and yet still incorporate such a large cast is probably one of, if not the main reason it is one of the best stories in modern day Dragon Ball.
@andreroyal5852
@andreroyal5852 Жыл бұрын
To make gohan take the role they should make vegeta and goku surpass beerus after beating frieza and the grand priest makes a universal pride troop or universal patrol and ask goku and vegeta to be the first members and then that’s how to get bring back jiren they most likely take broly with them and leave universe 7 to gohan and piccolo to watch over
@ltreanor99
@ltreanor99 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see Gohan get trained by Jiren one day in the future.
@cosmosofinfinity
@cosmosofinfinity Жыл бұрын
Jiren does have that superhero aesthetic Gohan loves so much
@austinmitchell2652
@austinmitchell2652 Жыл бұрын
They could definitely open the lid and have Dragon Ball operate like star wars, with various anime, manga, video games, and written works telling diverse stories about different characters
@copyninja1
@copyninja1 Жыл бұрын
I think the movie missed a small plot at the end to power scale Gohan a little right at the end. By Gohan powering up to beast mode Goku and Vegeta could have sensed his power during or right after their fight. You know like they both sense his power level and acknowledge with the usual “Huh, what is that power!” type ish. It would let us know for sure that Yh Gohan’s power up was other worldly on par with the two current main characters
@derekosgood3230
@derekosgood3230 Жыл бұрын
As my favorite character I would like a spin off manga focused on Gohan. He doesn't necessarily have to have the main story but I would love a spin off.
@KamiAnimeS1
@KamiAnimeS1 Жыл бұрын
This is the problem though. What would we as Gohan fans want for his spinoff manga. is it going to be him living out his dream of being a great scholar. And fighting when necessary. And doing superhero escapades. As great Saiyman. And for the big threats fighting as Gohan
@KamiAnimeS1
@KamiAnimeS1 Жыл бұрын
But either way though I like the idea
@derekosgood3230
@derekosgood3230 Жыл бұрын
@@KamiAnimeS1 I would be down with some of all of it Honestly lol that's what makes Gohan my favorite character. Having so much power and yet being a scholar and family man on his off time. And his real life struggles of having to balance it all. It'll be a different pace than usual dragon ball but I think they could pull it off.
@KamiAnimeS1
@KamiAnimeS1 Жыл бұрын
@@derekosgood3230 I think it will be good. But my biggest problem whenever this question pops up. Is people want to divorce go Han from all that. And want him to be a Goku 2.0. Who also loves fighting. For me that’s a hell no. Let him be his own character if you want him to be the main character. With his faults in all. Because to me that’s more interesting
@XxGamer42069xX
@XxGamer42069xX Жыл бұрын
@@KamiAnimeS1 though I always loved how he was way more grounded and family based than goku I would love for gohan to have the chance to have some big implications in arcs going forward, he’s always been teased as the strongest character but we’ve never really seen him stand beside other characters showing off that power other than the android arc. I just want to see gohan do something important again that doesn’t feel like side quests
@josephjoestar6353
@josephjoestar6353 Жыл бұрын
I think they should do an arc with gohan as the main character like they did with trunks in the black arc. Then , they should go back to goku and vegeta again as being the consistent main characters
@rashawnjordan1307
@rashawnjordan1307 Жыл бұрын
I think a movie revolving around android 17, 18 and Krillin would be nice
@haven2moses556
@haven2moses556 Жыл бұрын
If Toriyama and his writing team were smart they would do this.... Have Goku Vegeta and Broly explore the larger universe(s) and world building they have established. Go a little out there ans get kinda crazy While having Gohan Goten and Trunks handle all the battles that come to Earth and threats that come to Earth Theres so many stories they could do. Take some risks at the same time making MORE CHARACTERS relevant again
@j04370859
@j04370859 Жыл бұрын
I mean, besides the Goku and Vegeta stuff, we got this in Superhero. With Gohan and the others handling the threat on earth and even making Piccolo and Gohan relevant again.
@RulerOfYore
@RulerOfYore Жыл бұрын
Toriyama had his shot, built it up and it came to a perfect climax in the Cell saga… then he just said F it and brought Goku back. In order to do so he had to make Gohan and co make the dumbest decisions possible so Goku could come back.
@roninhare9615
@roninhare9615 Жыл бұрын
I feel they went and created the god of destruction and the angels after then they created the Kai’s. Sense they have they have been using these Devine beings and groups that are essentially emulating Goku (angels) Vageta (god of destruction) gohan (the Kai’s). Gohan beast imo emulates the Kai’s even more, and it ties into his power being unlocked by the elder Kai. We’ve seen the former grand surprise kai from the Moro arc that showcases they all have immense power and magic and was only defeated by bud once he was weaker several thousands of years later. I would really like to see Gohan go off with the Kai’s and do some training with them and hone in his new “beast” form, or develop a mastered “beast”.
@Jeb_binch
@Jeb_binch Жыл бұрын
One - I think Toriyama should have stuck to his guns on having Gohan be the main character of the Buu saga. The stuff early on in the manga with him training Videl is some of the best stuff from that time. Two - the ship has kind of sailed at this point, and I say that as a Gohan fan. In general I think the series needs to embrace its ensemble more. With Gohan and Piccolo able to hang with the big dogs now maybe we’ll get more of that. Tenshinhan glow up when?
@j04370859
@j04370859 Жыл бұрын
The manga sales were also dropping around that time. I also remember that a number of fans didn't like the beginning of the Buu Saga.
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos man! Keep up the amaIng work!😊😊😊❤❤❤
@matthewhanimov676
@matthewhanimov676 Жыл бұрын
@7:45 "They can both be main characters" YESSS Split the stories in half!!! One focused on earth, one in space!!
@matthewhanimov676
@matthewhanimov676 Жыл бұрын
The stories can intersect and exchange characters from time to time!!
@chanceneck8072
@chanceneck8072 Жыл бұрын
Just make Goku and Vegeta get lost into another universe. Like stranded by accident. You could hit like 2 birds with one stone, on one hand make some cool, fun new exploration stuff with Goku and Vegeta (maybe Broly, too) and on the other hand let Gohan be the current representator of and protagonist on Earth....
@GoldenQ9
@GoldenQ9 Жыл бұрын
They should pass the torch to gohan again and keep it that way. Because gohan so relatable its much more story writing that can happen .
@FrenchToastMan585
@FrenchToastMan585 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion it would be nice if characters took turns being the main character every arc if possible OR... Like Geekdom kinda said, two seperate stories or multiple strong villians taking place at once.
@j04370859
@j04370859 Жыл бұрын
The problem with that is bringing a dangerous threat would he everyone has to get involved. Like how strong can this villain be, for others not to sense what's going on?
@MikeBrown-bs7qu
@MikeBrown-bs7qu Жыл бұрын
Doing the story like that as of having multiple stories going at once, would also be a way to keep the franchise going. I keep seeing people online trying to still say that Super is not really canon but GT still is. It was even said that it was the other way around. They can still bring Super Saiyan 4 in the canon by ways of Broly. Maybe there is multiple versions of Saiyan God form, as in Super Saiyan God that deals with one side of the Saiyan power with Goku & Vegeta and then you have Super Saiyan 4 with Broly, that deals with the raw power of tapping in the Great Ape form like Super Saiyan 4 does. Cause in the Broly movie, it hinted Super Saiyan 4 with how Broly could still tap into the power scale of the Great Ape.
@dynaguy3
@dynaguy3 Жыл бұрын
I like stories where the mantle is passed on. But in Gohan’s case, he really doesn’t have the drive to be the main character. He’s not curious enough. He would need to become a hero again like Great Saiyaman since he doesn’t have Goku’s innate desire for a fight
@sixstrz8310
@sixstrz8310 Жыл бұрын
Maybe him training with jiren would make sense since their whole characters in that universe is about justice i think gohan would appreciate that way of thinking when it comes to battle
@Simpnamedslickback
@Simpnamedslickback Жыл бұрын
The worst part about Gohan’s writing is that they keep the scholar and fighting separate. Gohan seemingly loves learning yet he doesn’t care about ki or 12 unexplored universes? Gohan being more proactive and learning to appreciate martial arts through enlightenment rather than depending on his instincts would’ve been much more compelling than a regressed Goku relearning lessons he learned back in DB.
@Jaxzius
@Jaxzius Жыл бұрын
Well Videl does have a Dojo, Gohan probably helps her when he’s not working on his studies. Which I believe Gohan’s studies is on the Spiritual “(Different) Path”. It’s along the Statements embracing who he is and not relying on SS, because it’s ONES TRUE FORM.(Saiyant’s etc.) We’ve already seen Vegeta get Surprised from Spirit Control training with his blast Explosively Manifesting. Vegeta’s was just a Blast explosively magnifying from Spirit. Gohan learned to Trigger a Full Body Spiritual Manifestation from his Past Experiences and Studying/Training.
@sm0ky12
@sm0ky12 Жыл бұрын
Superhero was the most ive enjoyed dragon ball since z, ngl
@Rizzo258
@Rizzo258 Жыл бұрын
I need you guys to start a podcast together already. Love y’all working together.
@sirmel11
@sirmel11 Жыл бұрын
I don't see why they can't just have more characters involved like they used to. He just needs to be involved in the arc.
@matthewvandenelst7134
@matthewvandenelst7134 Жыл бұрын
To further Danny's idea of making parallel series', this would also be a great way to give the humans good stories. They could do the street-level threats. You can't tell me that a Krillin cop show wouldn't be fun, or a kung fu movie-esque series staring Tien
@Ajz092
@Ajz092 Жыл бұрын
Nope. I'm in the bottom 0.1% where I don't want Gohan to do any of that stuff. The guy has had his shine multiple times in various arcs, in multiple movies, made his dreams come true, married the love of his life, had a kid, AND has his extracurricular activities. I say just let him basically be the unknown small-time hero of Satan City, or wherever he is if needed. I want him to be more of a family man and live his life in peace.
@kage1573
@kage1573 Жыл бұрын
These are great ideas but I would say that they have shown hints of other characters being positioned as the main characters other then Goku or Vegeta such as Trunks acting as the main protagonist in the anime or Granolah being a misguided protagonist of his story but even though I agree that they can make another arc with Gohan as the lead, I would say they should build up the characters that they introduced in super more like Hit, Jiren, Merus, Broly, Universe 6 Saiyans, and Beerus more due to them having more flexibility with their character development and tension of them dying due to not knowing about their future.
@freza980
@freza980 Жыл бұрын
Goku is my favourite character and he was built to be a full time MC
@Jay11592
@Jay11592 Жыл бұрын
@BigD your channel really has been awesome in my life
@KamiAnimeS1
@KamiAnimeS1 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@mrbgrow
@mrbgrow Жыл бұрын
I would love if Gohan was back in the lime light. It's criminal what they did to him since cell saga.
@shawngaines1117
@shawngaines1117 Жыл бұрын
I would count the android and cell saga as duel arc’s i think you definitely don’t get one without the other, and they both essentially do what geekdom was referring to as far as multiple things happening in a arc that aren’t necessarily focused around Jeyese, Goku, and Vegeta hell I would say those to art in particular are the most different in all of Z in how that whole thing was structured
@TheOppositeOfLegend
@TheOppositeOfLegend Жыл бұрын
What they should do is have Master Roshi teaching Goten, Trunks, Pan and the other Z fighters his version of U.I. he did in the manga so they can have the power increase for the threats that come to Earth with Piccolo and Gohan stepping in when necessary
@korey15
@korey15 Жыл бұрын
The ending of the Buu arc set up Goten and Trunks to be the hero’s I like that idea. Gohan can become a new mentor to them, train them and fight along side them AND maybe be the new brains of the team and let Bulma retire? Also, really wish Tien would have had a kid Trunks & Goten’s age, maybe introduce a younger namekian too
@j04370859
@j04370859 Жыл бұрын
Huh? No, it didn't, Goten and Trunks didn't do shit at the end of that saga. The ending of the Buu Saga confirmed that Goku was the main guy again.
@korey15
@korey15 Жыл бұрын
@@j04370859 when Goku was teaching Trunks and Goten how to do the fusion, he definitely remarks that they are the future protectors of the Earth. That’s what I’m saying. Obviously, Goku becomes the main character again, Toriyama hints that eventually it will be Uub, Trunks, and Goten as earths future.
@j04370859
@j04370859 Жыл бұрын
@Korey E Goku said that because he was dead at the time, it was all on them to defeat Buu, and Gohan was supposedly dead also. Toriyama had plans on Gohan being the main character, but not Goten and Trunks. You're right about Uub.
@korey15
@korey15 Жыл бұрын
@@j04370859 brother Toriyama intended on ending the franchise after the Buu saga so wym? This is all subjective but I read it as Uub was going to be the new MC with Trunks and Goten supporting as the new z fighters to defend earth. Felt like it was just heavily implied. Gohan has firmly chosen academics
@j04370859
@j04370859 Жыл бұрын
@Korey E I know DB was gonna end after Buu. That has nothing to do with Trunks and Goten being the main characters.
@yamchacrater2913
@yamchacrater2913 Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling they will just have Gohan go back to his studies again and we won’t see beast Gohan for a very long time
@ss1212ss
@ss1212ss Жыл бұрын
Gohan should be the main character and he should be long time ago .
@elpopman2055
@elpopman2055 Жыл бұрын
Can Gohan be the main character? If the writer knows what he or she doing and Has Creativity.. It all depends on the writer... I recall how overpowered gohan was in the dragon ball z movie 10 When He was Actually Somewhat on par With Broly To the point where his blows can briefly stun Broly. Lol And the kicker is that the writers in original translation had Gohan train because they assumed gohan would have been the main character who keep up Training. So it's very interesting that in the movie Timelime Gohan actually trained During the Seven years.. It's funny How terrible the english localization can be Because people that read english translation assumed Gohan was rusty. Of course my major Gripe about the Film is that everybody should have sensed Broly and Should of Jumped Him... There is no way that Vegeta Would the remain out of the fight.. Same With Piccolo. The moment Broly woke up and Powered up everybody should of have sensed Him in the film
@Naruku2121
@Naruku2121 Жыл бұрын
Honestly as Gohan as my second favorite char I don't think he's going to be the main character again. At best I'd say it's a wake up call that could at best actually let him finally stay relevant as in not slack on his training. Even though to be honest he had ample reasons before and still backslid but I digress.
@aidanlyons25
@aidanlyons25 Жыл бұрын
Ngl I find Piccolo should be thhe mc seeing how they did with him in SuperHero
@LucidStrike
@LucidStrike Жыл бұрын
Could also just commit to spinoffs or a real ensemble. Like you said, Star Wars, MCU, HunterxHunter, etc. already prove it out.
@BasedGotenks
@BasedGotenks Жыл бұрын
The two separate story thing i’ve been hoping/ waiting for. Then eventually theres a threat on earth thats too much for gohan/piccolo and the z fighters then the saiyans gotta tag in…Then since toyotaro likes callbacks, goku is late getting there.. add some stakes again
@spritvio639
@spritvio639 Жыл бұрын
No, but I would be open to more Gohan focused arcs if they did something new with him. Gohan, since really Super started, has been running in circles as a character. Super Hero tried to do something different at the end, revealing that Gohan still trained (which is pretty weird given some of the things that happen in the movie and where we are), but it was still mostly the same thing.
@padraig-bobotia-maria5176
@padraig-bobotia-maria5176 Жыл бұрын
Just read the manga, he is more like he was on namek compared to the nervous weirdo in the anime.
@giuseppemirando
@giuseppemirando Жыл бұрын
I think gohan and piccolo can and should become the main characters for awhile while they have goku and vegeta being higher up. They can have two fully different stories with goku and vegeta with the gods while Gohan and them throughout the universes and tie them together when needed
@sixstrz8310
@sixstrz8310 Жыл бұрын
Idc if gohan doesn’t become the main character I just want to see him having a main role like vegata whis and berus even seeing more piccolo would be cool just having gohan involved heavy in the Main Story is what we all want to see
@brandonwood8971
@brandonwood8971 Жыл бұрын
ive been waiting for this since i had a broken left arm from snowboarding with natural long blonde hair in 2003… gohan id the main character and the dragonball torch pass from goku to gohan needs to happen. goku perma dies to save gohan and gohan absorbs his father and does a special perma energy/expereince absorb technique.
@dreethebeach
@dreethebeach Жыл бұрын
Granola should fuse with meerus. That’ll be lit
@mateuszkominiarczyk8865
@mateuszkominiarczyk8865 Жыл бұрын
One thing is for certain. Vegeta will finally get the W he deserves.
@Edge3133
@Edge3133 Жыл бұрын
I concur, split arcs at once would be amazing.
@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462
@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462 Жыл бұрын
I do believe that Gohan will never be a main character, or main character material, mainly because of what Geekdom101 said, because although there are a lot of characters wanting a normal life opposed to always fighting, it is like, they never look for trouble, so the creators have to make it to where trouble looks for or finds them, like usual bank robbers or pretty criminals that Gohan can deal with on a regular basis, but then it goes to other big things like some random conquerors just come to Earth to try and conquer it, and then that is when Gohan has to really step in. It might be a a constant plot thing to create and put more trouble and enemies against Gohan just because, like the give him no peace in his life, because that his how these things work. Gohan would find no real peace, rather than the Goku thing where Goku looks for trouble and he prepares for trouble, and he has found peace with his way of living, but Gohan doesn't want that, Gohan wants a family, he wants to have fun with his daughter, he wants a life, he has to have stuff happen to him every time. Maybe Goku being universal or even Multiversal can work, like a green lantern space thing, and Gohan is a more down to Earth hero, maybe that can work, but let's see what happens.
@VGamingJunkieVT
@VGamingJunkieVT 4 ай бұрын
Gohan being the genius to devise strategy really would be like two sides of the same coin with Goku, since his ultimate power is relying on instinct.
@reddragon100
@reddragon100 Ай бұрын
Gohan is not battle genius. He is bookish nerd just with anger issue
@VGamingJunkieVT
@VGamingJunkieVT Ай бұрын
@@reddragon100 I know, but he could still potentially form strategies.
@armchairqb2994
@armchairqb2994 Жыл бұрын
Would like to see beast gohan go up against ultra ego
@Marlo_189
@Marlo_189 Жыл бұрын
Beast gohan can be the strongest again but goku was always be MC bro the king in Japan 😂
@KamiAnimeS1
@KamiAnimeS1 Жыл бұрын
Yup
@that0neni99a
@that0neni99a Жыл бұрын
Gohan ain’t gone be the strongest lmao people needa let it go 🤣
@pluto8214
@pluto8214 Жыл бұрын
@@that0neni99a he is the strongest the creator even said it 🤡🤡
@cosmosofinfinity
@cosmosofinfinity Жыл бұрын
He will be the strongest for a flash of time before he goes back to his regular life again while Goku continues to go beyond and leave him in the dust again. Just like Vegeta, he will only ever be top dog for the briefest of moments before Goku figures out the next stage of power and ultimately take the mantle of #1 again as always. Goku will never play second fiddle to anyone longterm, even if they are Jiren or Broly or Beerus, he will get to their level one way or another
@bigmonkeking9067
@bigmonkeking9067 Жыл бұрын
I just want him to be more apart of the story with Saiyan trio
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