Can EMDR Remove Fear & Shame?! | Russell Brand & Jameela Jamil

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[@RussellBrand]

Have you tried anything like EMDR? What do you think about this kind of method of therapy?

[@LSA7X]

I've seen various therapists for the past 15 years. Tomorrow is my first new session for 3 years and the first time I'll experience EMDR. Looking forward to removing years of aggravation and frustration.

[@ELdASenSei]

@@LSA7X pls keep us updated! Hope it works out for you!

[@ges6431]

I’ve just recently gone through it for some childhood trauma & can relate to one of the examples she mentions. I’ll be 30 in a couple of weeks and had just started having flashbacks and putting pieces together of some childhood abuse events that I now realize were causing me to have similar fears of the dark, safety concerns, ocd/anxiety type behaviors etc. It’s been really helpful for me. It’s like she says where you sort of don’t even notice you’re unbothered by things that used to terrify you or make you stressed, the feeling just isn’t there anymore. My therapist uses these little paddles that alternate vibrations that I put behind my knees rather than watching a light ( I’m distractable and have trouble focusing on things like a moving light so this is nice). While thats happening she asks me to talk through the traumatic event as if it’s present tense and I’m experiencing it again. The first session was the most intense and has helped me work out a lot of other things I’ve been stuck on for years and never knew why I did those things. You would probably really like it based on things I’ve seen you say about your past experiences.

[@DrJamesCooke]

I definitely recommend to others as neuroscientist. It's the most effective tool we have at unearthing traumatic memories and should be available to everyone.

[@Deceter]

How bizarre! Just started this therapy a few weeks ago. Very sceptical person but I have to admit, something has changed.

[@MsChitterchat]

Russell you’ve become an excellent listener. Credit to you. It also feels like you have more respect and empathy for women these days. I enjoyed watching this, thank you.

[@michaelinzo]

MsChitterchat lmao

[@heidikurz6609]

Totally agree! I could watch him to learn better listening. Great discussion

[@Xray447reviews]

Brilliant comment , I think so too

[@fionastanley8707]

Absolutely! Thanks for letting JJ explain her experience, it really helped me.

[@alenasilverscreenpipe1521]

I agree with your comment 😉😉 1961

[@beelarehman5992]

She’s so open. I really like her

[@JadenJahci]

Im really cagey so you'd probably be rather indifferent to me. Oh what shalt thou i do now knowing that i shan't be invited to your Vegan BBQ? Best Wishes, Spread Eagle

[@beelarehman5992]

You’re always welcome to some tofurkey

[@JadenJahci]

@@beelarehman5992 ...And some Beetlejuice?

[@beelarehman5992]

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[@JadenJahci]

@@beelarehman5992 "It's Show Time!" kzbin.info/www/bejne/haWUYneDf7CboJo

[@carlosb4741]

Take it from me, a combat veteran who was shot in a fire fight in Afghanistan, EMDR is fantastic. Be open to it . I've heard a veteran say it's bullshit. No be open to it , free your mind.

[@minacoleman3345]

So glad this was helpful for you. Funny, there are no negative remarks..and that alone makes me cynical..lol. Since you with your background found it helpful I am definitely study up on this.

[@4evabluegirl]

❤️

[@firehorse9996]

Thank you for your service to the country. US or UK? Doesn't really matter. You are hero. Wishing you all the best in life. We need people like you to remind us how lucky we are with our little "traumas". FOR REAL. Thank you.

[@wilsmith6551]

@@minacoleman3345 Mina I am a vet as well. I used it for my PTSD from my family life....I had one issue that had crippled me with guilt for a solid 4 years ( on and off). I did a self administered EMDR and the feeling was gone in 20 minutes of doing 2 ten minute sessions//// never came back. Its unbelievable

[@SunkeeAngel]

Wil Smith how do you do a self administered EDMR SESSION

[@HumansOfVR]

*_Shame is a soul eating emotion_*

[@randomelvis3359]

There is healthy shame and unhealthy shame....healthy shame let’s us experience guilt for wrong actions so we get to learn from this...we learn from lessons....the soul only strengthens, what we “think” is up to us 👍

[@unmixedunmastered2810]

Personally I have accepted all my flaws an I used to be ashamed as just part of and part of the journey. There isn't a point of holding anything

[@vie2210]

Life Progress - Health, Wealth, & Happiness Channel that sounds like hell :/

[@bobm3250]

@Abe Cedeefgee youre all confused. Its shameful to walk around naked in the public, its not shameful to get married. Sex with your wife is not shameful, having group sex with your wives is. There IS a difference.

[@epictetus9221]

@Abe Cedeefgee Correction: there is no "original sin". It's all bullshit. Ask Jesus if you don't believe me.

[@maryvalentyne2553]

EMDR has been an absolute miracle in my life. It sounds ridiculous when it’s explained sometimes but it WORKS. After ONE session that was about one painful sexually abusive memory it was no longer triggering for me.

[@amanda1838]

I credit EMDR with saving my life. Having a very traumatic childhood, I struggled immensely through my teens. With almost 3 years of consistent EMDR therapy almost a decade ago now, I now run 2 businesses, travel full time, and very rarely struggle with any issues related to my traumas from the past.

[@forreal245]

You are blessed darlin.

[@doingthelist1816]

Wow, good for you!! Will definitely be looking into EMDR now.

[@Elena-Studio]

Wow! I am considering EMDR, and had in the past briefly, because I was found on the streets of Russia at the age of 3. I only experienced the orphanages until I was 8 (when I was adopted), but I feel I have some repressed trauma that stifles me to my full potential.

[@phoebebee4250]

Do you have to say the trauma aloud? I don't think I could. I think it would kill me.

[@amanda1838]

Phoebe Bee well, you would need to tell your therapist what it is at first so that they can help you properly. But my therapist didn’t ask me to say anything more than I was comfortable with during individual sessions.

[@melindamcelveen]

I’ve had EMDR. It saved my life!! It removes all the emotion from the trauma... it’s crazy how simply it works... I had horrific PTSD. I suffered about 25 years with it and within about 6 weeks I was free from it all... no fear or shame or anger. I’m sleeping wonderfully. Anxiety is gone! It’s crazy how it works ... but it really really works!

[@peachybaby33]

EMDR for me was explained in the sense that your fight or flight starts to misfire (usually through early childhood-teenage experiences) when it experiences similar events associated with the original trauma. It starts to "file" these occurrences in a miscellaneous folder that, over time, becomes far more full and disorganized than the rest of the filing (which would be where most memories go during REM sleep, processed and "filed away" forever). After a long period of time, you have this huge folder of disorganized stuff, and the pressure of that is taxing, and never stops since you never could figure out how to file that original category (trauma) in the first place. Anything even remotely similar to the situation gets thrown into this folder. REM sleep, or the eye movement that happens when you're in REM sleep rather, is what helps the brain process and file away these things. When you have those "misfires", that's where EMDR comes in. It simulates your REM sleep, but in a waking state. This is why you feel so exhausted after a session, and it's recommended for you to drink more water that day if you've had one. I always end up napping after. I actually discovered I had childhood trauma through EMDR, and it was the weirdest thing, but has been the only therapy that's helped me after also having 28 years of undiagnosed PTSD on top of severe anxiety and depression, plus undiagnosed ADHD. Now I highly recommend it to anyone and everyone. It makes sense once you really think about it, and visuals are always a great way to understand what the brain is doing, and it set me on the path to discovering things about myself I didn't know were going on. I'm in a much better place now because of it. It's not a fix-all, but it's a HUGE reason why I'm so much better now than I was before.

[@nick6269]

Thanks for your story!

[@laravanian-green4521]

Been to 5 or 6 EMDR sessions now and it is absolutely AMAZING! Why didn't I do this sooner?!? I have let go of so much misplaced shame and I feel free for the first time in my adult life.

[@caucasianafrican1435]

That is *so awesome*. I'm glad for you and hoping EMDR works for me, too.

[@davidadams2395]

But how can following a light or sound or vibration help one heal trauma?

[@laravanian-green4521]

@@caucasianafrican1435 thank you and good luck!

[@laravanian-green4521]

@@davidadams2395 I'm not an expert in how it works although I have read a few explanations. Somehow doing something that activates both sides of the brain (in my case it's holding on to intermittent buzzers) helps to digest or move through the traumatic memories. A therapist helps guide you and creates the proper context. All I know is that it does work.

[@kathyannk]

David Adams If you google it you’ll get a lot more info. And there are lots of comments that explain it somewhat too.

[@chloesphone12]

For anyone who is thinking about doing EMDR therapy it changed how I live my life and honestly I didn't think it was working till I ended the sessions woke up one morning and realised I hadn't relived the trauma in my head for months. I'm so grateful for this video being made Jameela is amazing

[@johnscott7386]

Do you need a memory or do triggers lead to memories

[@JeanineMarieCompassion]

I am a therapist certified in EMDR. I've witnessed what seems to almost be miracles! I also love MBCT!

[@JeanineMarieCompassion]

Futures I understand what you mean. Me too! I’m 33 years in! Yes-things can be over-hyped that is for sure! Building rapport and offering a safe place and compassion is very fundamental. I believe that EMDR protocols allows for one to tolerate specific memories without going into hyperarousal or hypoarousal which has a specificity to it that can be great. It is just one of the therapies I work with. ❤️

[@hayleypowell9788]

I wish there were more therapists trained in EMDR. Work sent me to a psychologist after a terrible event at work but this guy ( the only one in my insurance plan) had never heard of EMDR and I left after 3 sessions knowing more about his problems and his wife’s medical issues so I quit going.

[@JeanineMarieCompassion]

@Futures I didn't mention before that some of the people I work with have had dramatic changes in their life from EMDR. Neither I nor they could believe it at first. The proof seemed to be in the pudding. One person, was able to, for example, go to school 5 days a week when they had never been able to do so (for over 10 years in one case) before. I feel that as a trained and certified EMDR therapist it is my job to keep clients in the window of tolerance. We have all kinds of safeguards in place to address overwhelm. However I think t is good to continue to question and evaluate EMDR and other therapies. As you know many consider bilateral stimulation as the "special sauce". I am not sure that is true. I believe there are other elements that help EMDR to be effective. I think is important to keep questioning, learning and certainly not to be married to any one technique. I appreciate what you are saying! I need to get back to my therapy notes. I am glad for this exchange. :) Hello @russellbrand!

[@JeanineMarieCompassion]

@Futures I work for a hospital on an Indian community at the moment. Client's insurance allows us to spend a great deal of time with clients. We get to know clients, the community and their families. This helps so much with getting to know the clients well. I also do volunteer work in the community. I like that EMDR as with some other therapies such as somatic experiencing don't force that client's verbalize their suffering. They might simply notice the sensations and that can be processed. I believe, as Bessell van der Kolk writes, that talking doesn't go deep enough into the brain to make lasting change. I do also ask my clients when profound changes have clearly been made about any possible other reasons for change. I will ask about home life, diet, medication, changes at work, school and in their personal life. I will sometimes even ask questions like "Are you eating anything different for breakfast?" "Did you change your shampoo?" I am often skeptical and very curious as well. One of the things that I don't like about EMDR is that therapists "do it" to clients. I love the practice of MBCT as the client can cultivate their own practice. I have taken courses at Oxford studying mindfulness and think so much of this practice. Of course they are not mutually exclusive. Notes still not done! Thank you so much!

[@JeanineMarieCompassion]

@Futures I will check out the book. I know that mindfulness can be oversold as a panacea for everything. MBCT is not only "meditation". Kuyken, Williams, Teasdale, Segal and Kabat-Zinn, as well as others,have done a great deal of research looking at brain changes and how MBCT can be utilized to address specific affective challenges. I don't believe, nor do they believe, that MBCT is a quick fix. While mindfulness is often associated with Buddhism, this is only one tradition from which teachings are gleaned. I agree, if we lived in a different kind of world we wouldn't be needed.

[@lipegr]

I've had EMDR therapy. It is a miracle cure, for real. My understanding is that there is a part of your brain that stores the emotional memory of trauma. But it is a more primitive part and is inaccessible cognitively. So no matter how much you talk about your trauma, the emotion of it just won't dissipate. So you continue to trigger into those emotional flashbacks. I went through a period of my life just in the last few years where emotional triggers dominated me. I was pretty much unable to be sociable at all because of the constant triggering. I went to an EMDR therapist and got rid of the triggers. Like she says, it's really non-dramatic and yes, they never come back. The level of peace in my head is really wonderful, the silence is so nice. No more going round and round in circles in my mind. No more need to go from person to person looking for someone to make it all stop. In fact, I've gotten quite happy about leaving my back story in the dust and living pretty much story less.

[@johnscott7386]

Did you have exact memories to work with or did you just use the triggers?

[@bricktopmedic]

I am a two long tours in Iraq Veteran. TBI, PSTD, blahnik, blah... I went on an absolute suicidal binge after returning from last tour. Short story long, ended up in Rehab, AA, etc. I fervently and copiously sought and attempted every treatment available to me and EMDR worked very, very well. Anecdotally, 2 sessions seemed to bring about significant emotional and physiological results coupled with talk therapy, AA (working steps with a Sponsor), meds for sleep and increased positive social interaction. Regression Therapy is a close second as it relates to immediate significant and palpable results. Mind you, I'm earnestly tried and participated in most everything from reiki, massage, Western meds, CBT, etc, etc... I had blood draw prior to starting any protocols to establish baseline cortisol levels, etc...blood drawn post. Significant decrease in cortisol lvls.

[@SolidityDegen]

BrickTopMedic that’s interesting, I wish I’d had blood work prior to similar treatment. It must be nice to know the treatment has had a measurable physical effect as well as psychological.

[@bricktopmedic]

@@SolidityDegen ...I'm all for the Placebo Effect. For my patients and most of the time, myself. I've read journals that have shown data in trials. But, to actually know my issues and baseline, then to see hard numbers, is really nice. I would submit to you, request a blood draw from your Primary Care provider. See what your levels anyways.

[@soundstuff253]

When Jameela was describing the feeling of finding peace through EMDR, like stepping out of a club at 4 am and realizing how loud and crazy it was, it really reminded me of my experience doing yoga for the first time when I had severe social anxiety. I took yoga as a class in middle school and it seemed like every moment was full of shame, dread and worry. The first time I walked out of that yoga class I felt an incredible peace and quiet in my mind that I never felt at school. For a little bit, everything wasnt so anxiety inducing. It's an amazing feeling to find peace. Edit: I forgot a word

[@johnscott7386]

Do you need a memory or does it work with triggers

[@anaschmana]

I am a certified EMDR Therapist and it does work as quicly as she mentioned. The part that is important to mention that was not mentioned is that before reprocessing the "traumatic event to desensitize" there are installation and practice of grounding and self regulating techniques that are used for the safety of the client. Also gravely important to know is that recalling tramatic events without being in a safe environment, with a trained professional can be very dangerous for the client because they may not be able to come out of it safely!

[@AAJJCCSS]

I disagree. This is therapists trying to use scare to preserve their own income stream. DIY EMDR is good.

[@theconsciousentrepreneurs198]

@@AAJJCCSS exactly lol. its so unethical to use fear tactics just so therapists can get more clients, obvioulsy working with a good therapist youll get so much more benefit, but you can still do a lot of work on your own and it works really well

[@roquesanta9769]

@@AAJJCCSS yes I hate looking at comments like that, planting fear in people. I’ve done EMDR and going to the traumatic event is VERY HEALING! and EMPOWERING, and you can do so much work at home

[@bobmiller7502]

@@AAJJCCSS think about what you are saying brother,,why would she do that,,for a minority it can be very very dangerous brother, say leaving straight after therapy, still open,,raw, it was amazing for me, usually need half a hour maybe a good cry,bit of meditation,,Bobs ur uncle,,,never STOP Loving,,,bob,xxxx there's no such thing as the truth,,,xx

[@whisperingblues9887]

Sounds like it's way to good to be true as the old adage goes it usually is.

[@launacasey6513]

I loved hearing Jameela's description of the EMDR process. I had a rather profound/effective EMDR session 2 weeks ago and I thought I was losing my mind because I felt so free from that suffering I had learned to live with. I would highly recommend. Get yourself unstuck and unafraid!

[@jklubnik]

I adore Jameela Jamil. She speaks up for others, and is just such a great lady. Glad you were able to have her be a guest.

[@beasmith5390]

What the heck Russel! We just luv ur channel!!! I, personally didn't know you had one but after I subscribed, I learned a lot of what I am going through, through your experiences. Thank you again, you rock! 🤗😎😎

[@SusanMarieMason]

Yes. I have had emdr for ptsd and it worked. My daughter and granddaughter are currently in emdr treatment. It is working for all 3 of us.

[@SusanMarieMason]

I have a phd practitioner named Shelley Kaufman in Phoenix. She might be able to refer you to someone qualified near where yiu live. www.kih-az.com/ It is covered by my insurance. It is a well-accepted mainstream treatment.

[@AJHillhiker]

As an EMDR trained clinician, I thank you very much, Jameela and Russel. I appreciate Jameela's honest appraisal of the process as being boring in the moment (wonderful use of humor) and then profoundly healing in a short amount of time. Bravo! Looking forward to more of this podcast...

[@diogenesthevlog6589]

When she mentioned the thing about not realising how loud it was in her mind until it was quiet, that really hit home. I have a close loved one suffering with ocd and anxiety and it makes me think maybe I take for granted how easy it is for me to have still though thought process

[@pjmcmasters2160]

A beautiful light emanates from Jameela... hard to describe, lovely to feel... wonderful as always Russell, Thank you.

[@marlawarren4574]

Her description of EMDR is spot-on. You dont realize its doing anything at all and then suddenly you realize the stimuli around you no longer elicits the same response, or in some cases, ANY response. I did EMDR almost 15 years ago and it has been life changing.

[@dawnlightworker]

Thank you.!!! I love your videos and the subjects you talk about...I had never heard of EMDR and this was very interesting 😊💕🙏💕

[@doyle1020]

I've just returned from an EMDR session with my therapist and found this video. Talk about synchronicity and getting signs from the Universe that you're going the right direction.

[@LuXxenatorX]

no its coincidence

[@iAmTheSquidThing]

Could be the universal consciousness at work. Could be the KZbin algorithm. At this point they're probably about equally powerful.

[@doyle1020]

@@iAmTheSquidThing Too true 😂 except I've never looked up EMDR using my YT account. A friend referred me, so...I'm going with your Universal consciousness theory.

[@doyle1020]

@@LuXxenatorX but why do coincidences happen at all? Do you ever wonder about that?

[@wonderwoman5528]

How did your EMDR session go? :)

[@Built_By_Bacon]

Currently doing EMDR with my therapist and have been for the past 3 months. It's been helping significantly.

[@matthewganley5951]

I love this woman. She is so insightful, brave and funny.

[@heatherromero8758]

I am so glad you guys are talking about EMDR 🧡 I have CPTSD , I received EMDR last year. It is amazing. It definitely helped me with the healing process 💙

[@NazHussain]

Amazing. I had AOITNS (Abbreviation overload in therapy naming syndrome) and this video has totally helped me understand my phobia better. Thanks.

[@DrJamesCooke]

That's so great to hear!

[@flitzpieperich]

Same experience with it, Childhood trauma. Emdr is awesome.

[@DrJamesCooke]

Unlocking memories is such a crucial part of healing from trauma. EMDR is definitely the best we have right now, although MDMA therapy should be widely available in a few years and seems to be even more effective.

[@pawelzabicki7785]

@@DrJamesCooke MDMA ftw!

[@dadasanders7986]

i stumbled across this podcast and am so glad you're talking about EMDR and its effectiveness. As a psychologist who specialises in PTSD and complex trauma in central London, I also trained in EMDR so just wanted to add that EMDR uses bi-lateral stimulation in its active phase of processing difficulty memories. The clinician can use hand, a stick, hand- held buzzers or the light bar - they all have pretty much the same function - to help the brain/mind process traumatic material (it is all about how our memory works..). It is also good to know it is not a magic that delivers in one or two sessions - an initial formulation e.g. understanding of the problem/s will guide the therapeutic process and some people will need to build up skills and resources before the process can safely move on re-processing.. It is also great to read so many responses.

[@silviaesilvia]

EMDR sounds like the best option for victims of abuse. I want to try it now!!! Thank you 😊

[@alexanderlee5669]

Go for it. I hope it works out for you.

[@silviaesilvia]

@@alexanderlee5669 thank you!

[@CS-dw4kw]

silviaesilvia me too. I have no money though

[@jamiejeanmaertens1729]

I don't think using the KZbin videos without a therapist is in any way dangerous. In many ways "safer" because you will presumably be in a safe space, where you can stay and recover from any adverse reaction you may have, take as long as you need with the session etc. However, as Jameela states, you do need to be recounting the trauma while you follow the movement with your eyes, it isn't just look at the light on the screen and magically you are healed.

[@jamiejeanmaertens1729]

@cassl14 Yes, I find EMDR effective. There are a lot of variants and different people find different approaches more effective than others, so don't give up on it! Definitely try again while recalling the trauma. I hope you have success with it!

[@judithreyes4664]

I Love this interview because both of you are so transparent which is such a breath of fresh air... Jameela so glad you shared EDMR with us. Hearing both of you share your struggles normalizes so much of the Bull a lot of us have been through... Thank you Russell and Jameela !

[@josephgiannopoulos9414]

Thank you Russell. I cant afford therapy and your videos really help me

[@thelonesomewanderer8359]

you can get it on the NHS if you're in the UK

[@justinbuchanan5344]

If you need it find a way or see what ur country does to assist etc don't just say you can't.

[@JARRYDTHEPAIN]

Alan Watts and his philosophy has really helped me as well. Search his content here on YT. Russell reminds me of him.

[@randomelvis3359]

Joseph Giannopoulos Making sense of “Why we do what we do” will assist you my friend....this is all part of life, no matter how tough our journey...I’ve been through hell myself and hear you ref affordable therapy...but there are many people via the internet now a days, plus you get to miss out on Narcissistic Psychologists 😂👍....Try Alan Watts, Syd Banks, Tony Robbins, Teal Swan, Mooji, Eckhart Tolle.....and from this point know we are in this all together...you’re not alone....keep strong and be very well 🙏🏻

[@najmoosman1723]

The Lonesome Wanderer only if your under 18 it’s free

[@Jade21010]

Thank you so much for covering topics like this, I've very recently had EMDR for ptsd and it worked brilliantly, it mimics REM sleep which is the stage in sleep where we process memories so it tricks the brain into thinking you've faced the trauma, the government are finally funding these types of theropy for the nhs which is a start! Thanks for such a great video!

[@Jade21010]

@Abe Cedeefgee exactly, it can sound quite silly at first but when you know why it makes alot of sense, my psychologist would use her hand for me to follow because obviously the nhs cant afford lasers lol

[@Jade21010]

@Josh D i had about 8 sessions and it wasn't until the 6th that i noticed a drastic change, i think it may be impossible to get a placebo from this, i came out of sessions in a daze but I knew it still hasn't worked, make sure its with someone who knows what their doing and if you leave a session feeling worse do not go back to them.

[@Jade21010]

@Josh D wow, i didn't even say it would for everyone, just that it worked very well for me, i guess you won't find anything to help you with an attitude like that.

[@Jade21010]

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3951033/

[@Jade21010]

@Josh D Im sharing my experience, not calling myself a doctor with research to back it up, alot of it is common sense, you're clearly very closed off to an idea that you don't understand. Its a pity cause it helps alot of people, if you can get onto youtube, Google it yourself.

[@magnethomewood]

Fascinating. I just wanted to watch a few seconds to find out what EMDR was (and because I fancy Jameela lol), but I ended up staying till the end. Well done, guys :)

[@JaronLukasXYZ]

Jameela I respect how open you are! Amazing to see you coming up

[@kevint.8553]

I have used EMDR, and it helped me get over an enormous portion of my PTS. It blew my mind. I walked around in a mental fog for a month. It was really something.

[@m.n.d5949]

Thank u Jameela and Russell for posting this about Emdr. Ive researched this now and will try it. I have the same issue as jameela. Thank u .

[@emmaswirkowski]

I’m about to start EMDR therapy so this came at such a perfect time! thank you x

[@kenjayfx]

I'm back watching your videos and I have to say I've missed them. Thank you for this content and bringing positivity to our lives.

[@SophieChambers2123]

So glad you guys are talking about this! I too have received EMDR therapy for PTSD, anxiety, and depression. I highly recommend it to anyone who's been through any sort of trauma. It gave me my life back. Great content. Thank you for sharing, it takes courage 💗

[@justinbuchanan5344]

Sophie Chambers good to hear. I might check it out in Australia. Hopefully there is access where I live.

[@SophieChambers2123]

@@justinbuchanan5344 I would be surprised if Australia didn't have an EMDR therapist. If not become one! ✌️

[@Emily-us4gq]

@@justinbuchanan5344 literally what I was about to write! Haha what are the odds?! I'm in Perth not sure where bouts you Are but we all know Perth has nothing like this half the time haha really hope we can find something here! I'm going to get googling now. Let me know if you find anything 😆

[@LocalDadJason]

Jameela explains EMDR perfectly, I share the same conclusion about EMDR. Triggering situations, triggered from past traumas - fear, shame, violence, etc - are now thought of without debilitating emotions. It creates new pathways in your brain, gets you "unstuck" and allows you to move on with things. Even little things from your childhood. Truly amazing.

[@fromthe4621]

Thanks universe for this message

[@PanPan-do1ct]

Agreed. Thank God for these two.

[@realtalkwithjordan8026]

I Thank God the creator of the universe for this video, EMDR is great. I love hearing people stories like this

[@suzanneslaw2562]

Fantastic! Thank you for creating and sharing this info. With gratitude and love! 💕💜💕

[@elliegoffe7525]

So great to finally see some coverage on EMDR! My EMDR therapist described our minds as a filing cabinet. When you experience something traumatic it gets stuck in the first drawer of the cabinet whereas most memories get shifted to the back drawer straight away. EMDR helps to shift the traumatic memory to the back so that you don't keep reliving it when in a triggering situation.

[@SzymonAdamus]

Jameela is so interesting and inspiring person. Really like to listen to what she has to say. Thanks for this clip.

[@LindaPow]

Many will learn from this video chat Russell and Jamella... Thanks and look forward to sharing to many in these new groups that have grown

[@glenngibson9201]

I'm glad you both feel comfortable talking about these subjects and how therapies have helped you. Thanks for posting this. I suffer from mental trauma and have tried so many things. I will definitely look into this and speak with my healthcare professional about it.

[@Jopeymessmusic]

Jameela is an amazing human, so open,honest and seems like great fun to chat to! Russell is excellent as always.

[@Phoney.Baloney]

Weird I just did this today and now I see this🌀 It was a respectful experience.

[@hezebelbeing]

Definitely showing this to my 16 yr old daughter...and looking into this. I know about it, but have never tried it. We both have anxiety...no doubt hers is due in no small part to my own. We can overcome...each at our own speeds...but we can. All love Russell and Jameela. thank you. & for those of you who do not follow Jameela on IG...do.

[@liahiguera7569]

Please upload the whole podcast!! been loving them all bust also like to see the people :)

[@PeroxideQueenie]

I've had EMDR therapy for PTSD and it has been very effective. At first it feels like utter bollocks that isn't going to work but it's basically just forced processing of trauma. My therapist must have been cheaper than jameela's because she had a stick with a red blob on the end that she swung from side to side rather than a fancy light bar! Still worked though.

[@applegal3058]

I've done EMDR therapy for PTSD, and it's been life changing!

[@applegal3058]

@cassl14 I did CBT and DBT. Both gave me tools to deal with panic attacks and anxiety. I was 36 when I was referred to a therapist who worked with the military. It took him less than one session to diagnose my PTSD. My whole life of trying therapy and antidepressants, and not one professional put together my childhood trauma and my mental illness. I am currently decreasing my antidepressant dosage to finally stop after almost 20 years of being on it. I do daily meditation and take care of myself with exercise, diet and yoga. EMDR and finally understanding why I react the way I do was what finally allowed me to be able to move on.

[@nina1528]

Everything about this vid - so needed to hear it. My doc recommended EMDR, still waiting for an appointment. Now I know it's going be what I need to move forward.

[@thedabbinunicorn5432]

So sad but so blessed we have people as courageous as her opening up & also advising on how to heal x

[@veronicav1779]

Brilliant. yes it works, thank you for sharing this Russell , thank you Jameela

[@innismack9398]

EMDR it sounds like looking at the light while recounting trauma makes you associate light as opposed to darkness with the event which makes it much less scary. Pretty brilliant. Thank you Russell. Jameela what a beauty!!!

[@vladn6031]

It's a different mechanism, has to do with eye movements.

[@paddywan]

Please upload the entire podcast! :)

[@samanthabarona7981]

Bless her. I am about to commence EMDR therapy. I wasn’t keen on this lady before. But now I think she’s an absolute hero.

[@musicl4095]

I did 2-3 years of EMDR for cPTSD. I describe the change that overcame me like walking out of a maze. It was as though one day I walked out of a maze, turned around and saw it and said,”WTF? That’s where I’ve been?!” Everything made sense after that. I haven’t returned and I no longer meet the criteria for PTSD.

[@cristianzor1972]

That is amazing! so happy for you, I hope I get great results also.

[@solearesoul]

She is so personable and stunningly gorgeous.

[@lanagolja]

Pretty sure I manifested this video as I was going on and on about Russell and Jameela to a friend yesterday... And now there’s a video of you both?! :’) I haven’t even started watching yet but I already feel fulfilled knowing this exists :’)

[@baseillerichardson4658]

Both of you guys have amazing chemistry, love listening to you guys talk.

[@zazabanaum3920]

I had emdr for pstd x it worked x I have suffered for nearly fourty years x it’s amazing x 💖🕉💖🕉

[@510overturn9]

Does it work for dislexya. 🤪

[@zazabanaum3920]

I don’t know x get in touch with the health service x x 💖🕉💖

[@whatrtheodds]

I'm so excited to try it. I had a car accident and it haunts me. It stresses me out very frequently and spills into non car related stuff

[@zazabanaum3920]

Average C Good luck x💖🌹💜

[@laralove1559]

I've never heard of that form of therapy. I must research this, thank you, Russell and Jameela. xox Girl crush, on Jameela.👯‍♀️ Hope you have her back plenty more as a guest, enjoy watching you both converse.

[@finneire2081]

She is Beautiful

[@MaryShelleysNib]

It’s been used to help the victims of Grenfell.

[@Yoda0522]

Emdr completely changed my life . My story and trauma now feels like i can actually tell the story as another person. I feel disconnected "dissociated" with the story like it wasnt me that the trauma happened too. Amazing therapy and i recommend this to anyone but like anyone people can take healing differently .

[@lucasgdrezes]

I am extremely concious of my bad and feel like I'm constantly being judged by people whenever I get into a room. One session of EMDR and the feeling was gone. I would walk around work without even caring what people thought about me.

[@cristianzor1972]

That is wonderful to hear, I look forward to starting next week.

[@lucasgdrezes]

@@cristianzor1972 you should! It's almost like magic, so weird. Too bad it was expensive for me and I couldn't continue.

[@NKJohel]

I have done it and it completely changed my reaction to triggering experiences. It literally changed my life.

[@Sukerkin]

What an intriguing subject - not the abuse that causes the need for the treatment but the effectiveness of a simple therapy. Also, what an utterly beautiful woman who has overcome the crippling beginnings of her life to present herself to the world as confident, eloquent and integrated with herself.

[@Cheryl1965]

I'm an EMDR therapist and have watched incredible recovery and change using this powerful treatment. To be clear it is absolutely not hypnosis. It's your brain reprocessing the trauma and as your guest says, it takes away the emotion of that event. Allowing you to function in a healthier, less reactive way. The memory is still there if you choose to access it but it will no longer come up intrusively and overwhelmingly.

[@Creativehealing444]

Wow! Sounds amazing. I'm a play therapist and loved hearing about EMDR.

[@Creativehealing444]

@Futures Thank you 🙏 I am always interested to hear about stuff that has worked for others. It is great that there are so many options out there to explore aye 😊.

[@Creativehealing444]

@Futures fair play ☯️

[@araz5367]

I tried EMDR after struggling with PTSD for a year. For about a month after the session I was at my lowest point since the initial trauma I experienced but after that month I felt like my PTSD was pretty much cured (alongside other everyday grounding and mindfulness techniques I introduced). Probably the best decision I've made. I feel like I no longer suffer with PTSD, whenever I think about the trauma it's from more of a reflective perspective. Would deffo recommend.

[@thebookofbobbi4915]

Ar Az wow My number one wish in life is to be in control of my emotions... sitting here crying my eyes out just imagining being released from the emotions I feel!!

[@araz5367]

The Book Of Bobbi - it seems endless when you’re in it, contemplated taking my life because of how paralysing it was, but after seeking help it felt like I did a complete 180 with my emotions. Definitely seek help! I hope everything goes well for you

[@thebookofbobbi4915]

Thanks:)

[@PaolaTheTimeLord]

i’m reaching almost a month with EMDR therapy and it’s a miracle. i’ve noticed changes within myself. i’m seeing actual progress. the old me is slowly being left in the past and is no longer in the present. i’ve read articles about the aftermath of a session. i’ve started to feel like my body is exhausted, random crying spells, becoming snappy, etc. it’s because your body is reprocessing everything and you need to let it out. it is very intense and you will feel stages of depression and dissociation but it’s normal. i’m so excited to continue on this journey.

[@Plamen2007]

I can highly recommend EMDR. I was lucky enough to experience it during my first therapy sessions and it helped me immensely. Although I do not consider myself "cured" of the past trauma we addressed with my therapist, it removed a huge load of the emotional attachments I had to certain events in my childhood, to the point where I could approach them from a rational perspective. Really incredible what giving your mind a mundane task while recalling autobiographical memories can do!

[@BeautifulSouls]

Thanks Guys Great An Interesting Topic Quality Content :-)

[@positivevibes1507]

Im So Happy that Russell Brand is a Bisexual man women need love too 😆 jk

[@mi6432]

I have CPTSD, had 3 years of therapy and had my first EMDR session last week, it works! But i belief you first have to learn how to feel and stay with your pain..

[@robynhc]

I am an EMDR therapist and really appreciate that people with influence and a voice have shared their experiences with trauma and psychotherapy publicly as it will encourage people to get the support they may need. And, actually, Russell, you have a very intuitive understanding of how the brain works and how EMDR works with the brain and body to create real, lasting change and symptom relief.

[@richfuller]

WOW! Thanks for making me aware of EMDR. Amazing.

[@MarkWagner33]

What a lovely couple..... I could sense that Russell --a certified and confident lady's man, is almost humbled, sweet and nervous with Jameela.

[@hayleypowell9788]

Yes. I was in traditional therapy and a few months in my therapist suggested EMDR. I didn’t really think that it would work but I was willing to try anything to get off antidepressants and get over an issue that I constantly dwelled on. It seemed harmless enough. So I tried it. Just focusing on the one issue. I was amazed that after 2 sessions I realized those thoughts were gone and I didn’t have the usual response when the incident was brought up. I could hear about it and even talk about it without any physical symptoms or anxiety. I do not know anyone that has tried this therapy so I am happy to hear you talk about it. I did continue about 6 more months of traditional talk therapy and it ended well. As a side note: I had been to 2 other therapist that every time I left crying and very upset to the point I had to sit in my car until I could pull myself together to drive. So I believe that the right therapist with the right treatment plan using EMDR changed my life.

[@kenmccabe4800]

Sparking as a person who gets bored very quickly when watching internet conversations, I have to admit, I could watch the two of u talk all day long. Insightful, engaging, honest. Thumbs up, too notch content.

[@DrDespicable]

Thanks to you and Jameela (and isn't she entirely lovely!) for bringing this up and to my attention! I deal with a number of PTSD issues - depression, anxiety, etc. - and look forward to looking into this further with my psychiatrist!

[@May-uh3mi]

She's very articulate and intelligent

[@May-uh3mi]

Yeah i get what you mean, i think its because she's in the presence of Russell Brand, she feels as though she has to be on a similar level to him, i dont think pretentious though

[@gwiltl]

@cassl14 I didn't get that vibe from her at all. I just watched the interview Russell Brand had with Richard Ayoade and compared to Richard, it seems like Jameela has no depth to her. When Russell was bringing up psychological and analytical explanations she didn't seem very receptive - compared to Richard, who was always on the same wavelength. I get what you mean, though. It was interesting to try and discern from this whether she just wanted to talk about herself or was just open to a discussion and conversation

[@gwiltl]

@cassl14 I think self-deprecation is a form of self-acceptance. It shows you're not insecure enough about yourself to make jokes about yourself. Although, it can also be used as a defence mechanism to cover UP the insecurities

[@Cat_StJames]

That was interesting. Thanks for sharing. As a former abuse victim and still suffering from PTSD, I will definitely look into this.

[@BigSausageTits]

i have the same circumstances as you,i had this treatment and my warning if you do would be that it’s very effective.don’t do it without some continuation of support afterwards like i did. its flashback central. ..colours,smells,my sense of fear as a 4 yr old..was forcibly (and vividly) available for rediscovery.

[@J.Moyine]

Read a book by Alberto villoldo 'grow a new body'. He mentions how it's essential to rewire the nervous system and the brain in order to change the programming of the mind and the vicious cycles we endure as concequence of trauma.

[@Cat_StJames]

@@J.Moyine Thanks for the recommendation. I just looked into the book and it sounds intriguing. Being an empath with a high extrasensory perception, my nervous system is always running high. When your survival as a child depends on your ability to read and adapt to your aggressor's energies and moods, your body will sooner or later break down. That's what happened to me and I can only calm my nervous system by forest sprints. The physical world wears me out. That book sounds really good.

[@GS-go9qq]

Good luck with everything. Hope you get to where you want to be

[@avag1424]

G S chose this link...not sure why, but here goes...am 50 yrs old and am just now feeling like I am starting to understand the complexity of human emotions and their deep roots in how our parents and their parents before them contribute to our life journey. It really becomes so obvious suddenly. I don’t have issues of obvious trauma, like others that may have experienced the trauma of sexual abuse from a relative or parent. It is for that reason that I always felt like I had nothing to complain about, or more specifically had no understanding as to why I was not feeling happy or connected to my Dad. I now realize that I spent my childhood trying to please him. I get it now. I was never “good enough”, that is how he made me feel. His “abuse” was mental, not physical. I spent the last 20 yrs caring for my mom with dementia and psychosis to the point that I lost my mental health in this journey with her. Panic attacks, anxiety, inability to work etc...All the while, having my Dad tell me I cared more for my mom than I did him when I was caring for him also . I know now that is all he knew also from his own childhood and how he was treated by his father thereby imprinting his unresolved pain onto me. I have such mixed feelings about social media, but have to say that I do feel there can be a positive movement in the enlightenment and knowledge of sharing such as this vid from Russell. I was blessed to have a friend that offered to pay for therapy. I accepted reluctantly, and went every 2 weeks for a year....only to leave each session in tears with feeling of no resolve....psychology speak of “ tools” to help me cope...I never got or understood what those tools were! Shortly thereafter I got internet, and learned more in a few weeks about personality disorders than I did in a year of expensive therapy! So, I don’t know who will read this, but I guess for some reason I just felt compelled to put this out there. Let the healing begin. Forgiveness is the start. Easier said than done. Healing with the knowledge that we are not alone in the pain we may be feeling, and a light that shines in every human even if there are no financial resources available to visit with therapists, there is a movement in that many seem to be grasping on to. The internet! Let it be the diving board into the most positive and enlightening knowledge for us all to share the healing in whatever small step that may be for any one person reading this. I have mixed feelings about posting this, but here goes...hugs and love to all who may read this. May be more therapy for me to have taken the time to post this than for anyone to maybe read it! Lol! 🤗 am now going to look into the therapy mentioned in this video.

[@kineokami]

Beautiful to see the breakdown. I feel a need to seek out this therapy for experimentation

[@junglespark]

Wow I was recommended EMDR by people before but I’ve always been gun shy, now that she explained it a lot more clearly I definitely want to try it out.

[@shanmarks5631]

The human mind amazes me, powerful yet fragile.

[@kenjayfx]

@Abe Cedeefgee beautiful

[@lumminha]

EMDR actually gave me my life back.

[@johnscott7386]

How did you use it? Fear? Trauma?

[@lumminha]

@@johnscott7386 sorry, I just saw this now. I used it for both fear and trauma.

[@lumminha]

​@@3nduser It cost 50€ (I'm not in the US) at the time (has been some years). Yes, some issues take several sessions, but never more than one issue per session (when you go out of the session there's still processing. I remember being said that thoughts, nightmares, etc, could happen - I never had nightmares but things were definitely overwhelming on my mind for a bit).

[@rustecohle591]

God I love this. I could listen to the two of them talk for hours...

[@justinbuchanan5344]

Russell Brand keep up the good work bro. And Jameela too. Helping a lot of people round the world by opening up.

[@LFcreative]

EMDR is amazing and it really works. It does not change who you are, on the contrary it removes what does not belong to you and is getting in your way towards becoming more yourself.

[@fumbles1294]

Oh I like that

[@dw9911]

Worked pretty well the same as described for me...EXCEPT!!! one part, i was told I may experience some bouts of "emotional release" as a by product... HA! well ya as it turns out I had my first and only panic attack freak the shit out completely and naturally assumed I was dying from a heart attack and drove myself to emergency at 2 am...what a trip that night was... Heart attack aside it really was magic... like night and day or a cluttered noisy night club to peaceful calm summers night walk simply through one doorway!! I recommend it highly!

[@johnscott7386]

Did you need a memory or did you work with triggers

[@TheZGALa]

Wow! Thank you for sharing this! I hadn't heard of this type of therapy. I am excited to add this to my toolbox.

[@bassofone1]

Infiltrate away! This was lovely! Keep 'em comin'! Thank you!

[@Jaikay1]

She has such a soothing voice.

[@MissKatAttackOfficial]

Jameela is AMAZING

[@Satsusss]

@@kaudric she probably wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire

[@purplesucess]

lovely show Russell, yes, taking shame out of your life, is a beautiful Freedom, I found it through a wonderful life coach, over three years ago, FREEdom at last!!

[@Irishjay-gu5pb]

Thank you for sharing this video!!! It's completely made up my mind to try it. Super excited! Thanks! Great video!!! :)

[@ethanmoir69]

You 2 are amazing