Can ESPN Finally Destroy Barstool Sports?

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[@MattTheParanoidKat]

Bear Mattress doesn’t ship to Canada or anywhere else outside of the US as of July 2020. Unfortunate cause looks like a good product but no Canada means no buys.

[@E.TenHag]

@@MattTheParanoidKatyou should tell the company. 😂

[@xdashx4962]

There is a huge issue with sports betting companies teaming up with media companies like ESPN.We saw how much Pat could move money lines with his bets. That’s a huge conflict of interest that can manipulate the market

[@tehbeernerd]

Disney is so desperate for anything to work that they probably don’t care

[@csbchickenduck]

Well it's not really a market so don't worry about it. Hope that helps.

[@xdashx4962]

@@csbchickenduck On the surface, not really. On the back end you can buy and sell sports bets

[@piquabear5702]

That's not an issue, it's the reason for this whole thing happening. The point of the biggest sports media company partnering with a sports book is to manipulate games even further.

[@monsieurmrfox]

They talked about this during the NBA draft when Shams, employed by fanduel, tweeted something to the effect of "hey this guy is getting a lot of buzz to go #2" the night before and all of the lines changed to favour that guy going instead of the revious consensus #2. In the end the player Shams tweeted about didn't end up going #2 so the optics became "insider employed by gambling company put out information/speculation that changed the lines and made said gambling company a tonne of money". Massive conflict of interest even though for Shams it was just reporting, same thing will happen with ESPN talking heads and their new sportsbook I guess

[@danieldesiata5560]

I know ESPN got short term ratings from it, but I think the hot takes era ruined espn. They lost sight of why people like sports. They courted controversy over people's fandom of the sports. I got burnt out by it, so I shifted over to the dedicated networks like NFL network and NHL network where the games and play were central, not stupid arguments.

[@89426]

💯

[@averyaman431]

tbf hot takes were popular at one point but that is long gone

[@danieldesiata5560]

@averyaman431 Yeah, thankfully. I didn't like hot takes back then either, though. That's what Facebook sports groups are for lol

[@demonkingbadger6689]

Ultimately, i just want to watch the game.

[@weregretohio7728]

Turns out making Skip Bayless and Stephen A. Smith your big names while your coverage sucks was a big negative.

[@thatsgoodsports]

The one person showing up early every time to dislike the video. Hate & Respect

[@JohnSuave]

That's dedication

[@mythicgamer6291]

They dedicated to their job

[@jimboshrump]

I find that rude, But vigilant. I prefer to verbally express my disdained views of you. Stop hating the bucs, sorry 4 denver.

[@ajaverill08]

They hate us cause they anus

[@ckq]

It's me

[@Jetsfreak77]

The reason Penn didn’t work with Barstool is because Penn expected Barstools fans to just use their gambling app even though they gave them the worst lines and promotions. If they do the same thing with ESPN it will also fail.

[@MrRapmaster19]

Also because Barstool’s fans skew young, where there isn’t nearly as much active income available. 90% of most gaming companies is made up by 5% of its user base: VIPs. VIPs are older and don’t relate to the Barstool brand at all. ESPN can improve that with a more widespread brand reputation.

[@TheHeadincharge]

@@MrRapmaster19It’s a long term game too though, gotta get them addicted early so they can get more VIPs later on.

[@cavemantero]

the NFL riggs everything so that Vegas always wins the long game...

[@TheHeadincharge]

@@ELIJAHNUBOYD I don't think you understood the satire of my comment...

[@nickthompson1812]

@@cavemantero the way odds are made, Vegas wins regardless of fixing.

[@doctorhorton]

Bob Barker: Our next item up for bid is Barstool Sports David Portney: One dollar, Bob ☝️💵 Bob Barker: Actual retail price…

[@0xSpiff]

RIP BB

[@Redmenace96]

I used to read articles on Deadspin and Barstool about 10 years ago. When they were small and personal, they were fun. The bigger they got the more content was useless, tasteless, time-wasting. Barstool is for 12 year old males with nothing better to do. There is a small share of the media pie for them to exploit. The bigger they are, the less watchable they are.

[@mangos2888]

Couldn't have said it better myself. Anytime I see a glimpse of a Barstool video, I get a little nausea. ESPN might be putting me to sleep, but the immaturity of Barstool is like season 1 of Jackass.... and I'm grown 😂😂

[@SickVidsNick]

Is it possible to hope for both companies to somehow spontaneously combust?

[@Other_Robots]

Word they’re both 2 of the worst sports companies out there

[@GPEVOX]

I was looking for this comment!

[@bilboswaggens2975]

Exactly

[@Luci-rv1hl]

Remember, espn is backed by Disney so they’re already imploding

[@justdrop]

I do every day.

[@colonialstraits1069]

Media companies that “report” on sports should not be allowed to also be sports books. Seems like a major conflict of interest.

[@bilboswaggens2975]

Espn is probably the largest influence on the general outlook on players and teams. This means that any bets that are heavily based on bias, like the mvp discussion every year, are able to be manipulated in multiple ways

[@poopshoes7579]

ESPN is a relic that doesn’t know that it’s dead yet

[@OttoTheWeim]

I have come to love your content. I particularly love your pain and suffering as a Broncos fan and having lived through many lean years as a Chiefs fan my schadenfreude is very comforting. Your presentation of other NFL (and sports stories like this) is well done and I am happy to support you with my digital attention.

[@carrite]

The worse the Broncos are, the better Perna is. Here's to an 0-17 Broncos season!

[@OttoTheWeim]

@@carrite that really is the truth.

[@mkhanman12345]

Content is king

[@briandstephmoore4910]

Yea let's ride to the trading block 💀

[@maxherzog3287]

These videos have been great perna! Keep it up!

[@burgerdaveee]

never thought id pull for espn

[@akaInfamous]

Same😂

[@josephkastner2804]

ESPN is in desperation mode

[@guitarhole]

Getting away from ESPN and Disney sounds like a win to me.

[@Hunter-th2fr]

ESPN is really betting on Pat and I love Pat but still afraid the show will never be the same. You really think Disney would have allowed Aron Rodgers to come on during the whole covid vaccination thing? Would Arod have said the things he said on ESPN? I'm just afraid Disney may destroy PMS kinda like how they destroy a lot of things

[@hunterp5252]

Yes, Aaron would have said it, but ESPN would not have allowed it to air because they only allow the left side of thinking

[@calebmarek]

Pat's show had been washed long before the ESPN deal

[@mactallica9293]

​@ELIJAHNUBOYD no he won't. They're all edgy and fake fans

[@tonydizinno8488]

Your ability to blend insight and humor in these videos is excellent. So glad I discovered this channel! Thank you!

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

I hate to sound like a prude, but I really am not down with the preponderance of gambling companies that have appeared in the last 10 or so years. I’m a liberal guy, but I just can’t support it.

[@pat834]

Dave said on Barstool Radio that they can’t take sports book money for a while, making it sound like it’s not forever. My guess it’s a 5 or 10 year non compete

[@MutedGrowl]

Yea but that’s just paperwork

[@jamesdrummond7684]

@@MutedGrowl WTF. does "that's just paperwork" mean

[@mikec3949]

Dont worry about it man, it's just paperwork

[@MutedGrowl]

@@jamesdrummond7684 A Non compete. It’s just paper work.

[@jamesdrummond7684]

@@MutedGrowl it's legally binding paperwork, shortbus

[@dynamoproductions5]

Barstool seems like the company who makes content for all the meathead jocks who got eight concussions by day and funneled five Four Lokos at parties by night.

[@codymulliniks3992]

I wish there was a way both of these companies could disappear. ESPN is a joke at best these days and the obnoxious fratboy culture of Barstool has me just tuning out and blocking every bit of it that I see.

[@_Dave_S]

Well said, my sentiments exactly!

[@RyTrapp0]

"I don't like a thing so that thing shouldn't exist!" [eye_roll]

[@stephenoakley9724]

The way Dave talks to and about his employees, it's a wonder he isn't fighting lawsuits every day.

[@RyTrapp0]

@@ELIJAHNUBOYD OP literally said that he wishes they could disappear, just because he doesn't like them - I mean...

[@seanjohnson9401]

Viva la stool

[@zergatroyd]

Sports betting is going to destroy sports. You know it, I know it. This is the beginning of the end.. of sports Also, thanks Perna! Love your shit! Keep on keepin' on!

[@rawnchydeard4669]

Absolutely. The scandals are already in motion. Things like Super Bowl XL are going to be commonplace and we all know it.

[@stephenoakley9724]

​@@mikez6683 120 million unique monthly viewers

[@realmtreader6566]

@@mikez6683 they aren't profitable

[@urbanoutlaw858]

No, but the way they are doing it is.

[@jackolson4997]

It destroyed sports the moment ya couldn’t bet on Rutgers in jersey

[@Krobscorner2006]

I.E. saying what we want means, "no internal accountability for garbage behavior" got it.

[@johnny__topside]

Barstool will never die unless Portnoy leaves or dies. Penn took a gamble and lost. Barstool’s audience skews towards college aged kids with little disposable income. Barstool’s business model is to capitalize on viral content and personalities, with some betting because the core guys are big gamblers. For all of Portnoy’s flaws (and there a fuck ton), he’s a good evaluator of internet personalities and his “I don’t give a fuck what you think” attitude appeals to a lot of people. The problem is that Barstool has had so many scandals and that scares off so many advertisers. Penn found that out the hard way by trying to set up the sportsbook in Massachusetts. For every good thing they do for small businesses or people struck by tragedy, they do a dozen other things that are despicable. They’ll be fine, but I don’t think they’ll be as financially profitable as they could be

[@mkhanman12345]

What do bankers worship? Profits

[@shaunnichols1743]

If they were doing anything close to "fine" a hedge fund would have happily paid a modest price to Penn and milked it for income the way they do local newspapers. You only sell something for $1 if it's already a financial boat anchor and you just want someone else to assume its liabilities.

[@johnny__topside]

@@shaunnichols1743 Chernin was the only real interested investor when they bought Barstool in 2016 for a reason. Barstool was viewed as a poison and could’ve tanked other investments if someone partnered with them. Barstool is a very risky investment. Also, Penn realized that if they sold to someone else, that new investor could’ve continued the gambling aspect of Barstool and make similar money. If Penn was adamant about a no compete in any sale, nobody but Portnoy would take that deal, and Portnoy knew that

[@ericmacdonald3365]

Nobody watches espn anymore..everyone knows you guys here on KZbin are the future.keep on bangin

[@akaInfamous]

Great video Perna! On the espn tip, though, idk if Barstool really has respect like that, then again neither does espn, but like you said, casuals think about them first, so maybe that might encourage the success of this partnership, but who knows.

[@sparklepiebaby]

Brandon, your bedroom is bigger than my living room and kitchen, COMBINED 😂

[@CodyChepa88]

Even in mexico city I must watch the new perna video . Keep up the great work perna

[@SageLlama]

I always lean to the That’s Good Network of shows(that’s good law and order etc) for my info and entertainment, which explains a lot. *finger gun noises*

[@ericbonow4809]

My prediction... Dave sells Barstool to Big Cat for $1 so Penn gets literally 50 pennies on the dollar.

[@stephenoakley9724]

That would be awesome

[@lsuperior]

Perna really is the ultimate goat of online nfl media. new, interesting, and honest content, yet I never get the feeling the commentator despises the 19th amendment

[@joshuasmith4862]

Never listened to any barstool anything. 🤷‍♂️

[@stonefavrot8819]

Congrats

[@braidenb3973]

Perna will take over after the death of barstool !!

[@RawDoggin1521]

I’m glad that barstool parted ways with the Sportsbook. It was the worst platform of all of the options, it gave the worst odds, and had the least amount of bonuses. Personally, I think FanDuel and DraftKings are light years ahead of all other books and ESPN has a hell of a lot of work to do with Penns sportsbook

[@amlor]

Barstool should consider, having as a focus, becoming the auditors and arbiters of the sports betting world. It could provide them with the social &moral legitimacy that ESPN used to have 20 years ago.

[@brad8892]

Those Brands that won't advertise with Barstool are the ones that are corporate schills

[@stephengrahn9361]

I think Big Cat is cool and funny as all get out. Dave is a super hard worker I really respect that.

[@LesscoBranden]

Will Barstool survive ? 😂😂😂 Dude got paid 500 million and bought it back for $1… yeah I think they’ll be just fine what a clown

[@_bronzemonster]

"Who invented grambling? It was probably some hunk that said 'wanna bet?'" - Dr Steve Brule

[@chillinuts]

A company that legally can not take part in sorts betting? Sounds like a neutral source of news

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

Lol, exactly!

[@drunkenmmamaster419]

Caleb Rainey and Glenny Balls are the only thing good from Barstool , everything else is trash

[@shanetuma3845]

Their bit was funny at first, but the shtick got old pretty quick.

[@LiterallyGod]

ESPN is more concerned with inclusion than sports.

[@snotnosewilly99]

At 12:05...Penn states it will have a PRE TAX cash loss of $800 million.... .....so, who pays for the hundreds of millions Penn saves after reducing it's losses do to a big tax write off????? You the average American pays the difference.

[@CarlCrisp]

I hate that ESPN is the “Go to” sports station on the break room and lobby TVs. I feel that’s the only reason it’s still alive.

[@ASMRPeople]

With this whole sports media reshuffle you might get some interesting offers in the near future. Your sort of like that mid major head coach that has some buzz.

[@CHISROSE20013002]

This guy is becoming my favorite KZbinr…. Perfect to edit to

[@OttoTheWeim]

No way in hell would I ever use a sports book that is tied to a supposed sports media company. It will also make my viewing of ESPN disappear because there is no way to trust that whatever story they are running is unbiased especially now they are going to try and build the book. They will run stories and focus on things that will affect the money lines. Adios ESPN

[@Wildcat_Media]

There is a little company that made a bunch of overpriced acquisitions in a relatively short stretch of time. Penn might be somewhat familiar with them - goes by the name of Disney. Rumor is they aren’t doing super hot right now, mostly because of dropping so much money on buying IP and not really knowing how to handle what they had. Not saying that Penn is in danger of going down the destructive path that Disney has been barreling down... but I hope they know what they’re doing by getting into bed with the Mouse. Corporate cash is a hell of a drug, but the addiction is beyond deadly.

[@Bhorvic1]

Long time fan here, Brandon! Keep it up and GO BRONCOS

[@rotmgpumcake]

Dave Portnoy looks like mark zuckerberg if he lived in a trash can like oscar the grouch

[@lastpme]

I rarely watch ESPN and have no idea how to watch Barstool since it isn’t part of my cable package.

[@poobone]

I'll never support Dave Portnoy or anything he's a part of, but I'm thankful that the business model led the inspiration that got us this beloved channel.

[@darastakid88]

This entire thing is as pointless as it gets. I don’t even truly know wtf barstool does. Anytime I see posts it’s just them stealing videos and posting them.

[@cmay6536]

The Barstool/Penn betting app is trash. That didn’t help

[@chrisdonovan5562]

I’m surprised barstool hasn’t scooped you Brandon

[@kevinkthedj]

LOOOOOOVE sports business breakdowns, TGS YES

[@PIP-zf9yb]

Barstool sports is back to where it was which is awesome for fans

[@Coleme19454]

I hate gambling so much. Sports books are ruining sports.

[@carrite]

Gambling is a tax on people who are bad at math.

[@Akkbar21]

Honestly, sports gambling has been a thing forever. How is it ruining sports NOW?

[@Coleme19454]

@@Akkbar21 are you joking? You must've been living under a rock for the last couple of years so I'll explain. Sports books have been around for a while but it used to be that you had to go to a casino or have a bookie to make bets on games. However, due to recent legislation, it is now much more accessible to gamble on sports because you can do it right on your phone, anywhere, any time. Now every 30 seconds there's a sports betting commercial for some stupid new fantasy prize picks whatever app and official leagues are partnering with gambling companies to force it down our throats every time we want to watch sports. Because lawmakers realized they could make a ton of profit off of idiots who waste their money gambling, and that's all that matters to politicians now because they are so tied up with private industries they might as well be part time CEOs. That's why sports books are ruining sports NOW

[@Akkbar21]

@@Coleme19454 I disagree. Just because you don’t like sports gambling doesn’t mean it should remain illegal. Just because it’s legalized doesn’t mean politicians are corrupted by it. That’s a hyperbolic leap. It implies corrupt actions by the leagues that we have zero evidence of. I’m obviously aware of legalization of sports gambling in many states, but your leap of logic isn’t factual. I also have a low opinion of sports gambling and close association between it and the leagues. Once there is PROOF of the corruption you’re talking about, then I will share your stated concern about it. Sports betting should legal. Prohibition doesn’t work and we might as well tax the vices.

[@Coleme19454]

@@Akkbar21 I think it should be legal too dude but I still don't like seeing it and I think the way that it is functioning right now is not good for how we consume sports. I don't think it's a "hyperbolic leap" that politicians lie and do whatever they want to make money but regardless I was just voicing my opinion on it and how I think it's making watching sports less enjoyable. Doesn't mean it shouldn't be legal. I think most things should be legal if you aren't hurting anybody idc

[@swrpggm]

Barstool is one tweet mistake from their conservative audience boycotting them like Bud Light.

[@mikec3949]

Like when Portnoy said he was pro choice?

[@Akkbar21]

Conservatives are crazy. That’s ehy

[@Brooklynquietmoney]

Great content as always bro 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@dwcooke]

I would be so happy if barstool failed. Lowest common denominator of content in every regard.

[@mason678w]

Failed? The dude that created it made over 100 million

[@dwcooke]

@@mason678w making money does not mean good content.

[@scottlemiere2024]

How dare you call your kitty stupid!?

[@jasontaylor8283]

Every move that ESPN has made in the last decade has been shit. Why would this be any different?

[@TrippyCommentaries]

Going to be a great season with the Thats Good Sports fam 🙌

[@dyne313]

$1? I would have given them $2 for Barstool sports!

[@carrite]

That's a pretty good tell that there is a lot of debt and/or financial liabilities moving along with that transaction.

[@Xiuhcoatl_]

I literally never heard of Barstool until I watched Donnie Does like... Damn a decade ago now. I highly recommend if anyone hasn't watched the Wonton Don on Barstool definitely give him a watch, he is hilarious!! Pft and Donnie do Hong Kong Sevens is a gold mine.

[@Luciddreamer007]

Love 💕 the Channel! But Bruh …. “Sleep Quiz” Seriously 😳

[@MrGamerz20]

Keep up the great work Perna!

[@Coyotek4]

Now I wanna revisit the classic boardgame "Acquire".

[@JoeBlow-mw5oo]

Barstool can not be run by traditional suits. It is a perfect storm of Dave, Dan who are brilliant content people and in a lot of ways leaders and Erika who somehow manages all of the lunatics that work there and also can be a normal “suit” and work inThe normal business world. So many people hate barstool but these are unique talented people.

[@CompoundingTime]

They can sell it for $1 because it is probably operating at a loss and then they can also deduct the depreciation of the business (what they paid-what they sold for) from their yearly profits. No more net loss from that business and write off the investment loss against other gains.

[@a.j.wilkes6352]

Nice work, that is creating a pie that is 110% of betting odds so you're guaranteed at least a 10% vig, if you can get it.

[@cavemantero]

Perna you're better than all of them. You're what people miss from ESPN. Making sports FUN and not about the BS hype. I don't watch much sports now because its all rigged...but I'll watch you're channel because you're genuinely entertaining

[@willcartoons]

Penny's gonna get the short end of the stick if Apple buys Disney or if Disney sells or breaks off ESPN. And Davey will be eating his pizza slice and laughing his ass off!

[@slimpickens9103]

You, go girl!

[@FunkoPopnLockn]

Best ad read yet.

[@ct5589]

Barstool should grow up and offer a media deal to the Pac 4 schools

[@johnchedsey1306]

Barstool Sports reminds me too much of my days as a bartender at a sports bar (Old Chicago, so maybe Brandon once staggered in trying to do the entire world beer tour in one night and I had to cut him off). That "Frat-bro" vibe is so annoying. That said, clearly there is an audience for it. It's just a shame Barstool enabled Portnoy to become a sexual predator and racist douchebag. But it is nice to hear that it inspired Brandon to start this channel. This channel is actually a hilarious way to keep up with sports and Brandon takes more pot shots at himself than anyone else.

[@emmanuelporte4201]

It's not Barstool versus ESPN, it's Barstool versus Disney. What are the general issue that will be for Barstool is that, Barstool will have a hard time obtaining advertisers to do those risky things that they do. A lot of their money came from that sports betting area, and it allowed them to do a lot of the things that they do, but now they can only hope that their personalities can draw an advertisement. ESPN is on the boat if it's on. They have the money look at the situation and go "oh wow that doesn't work" and then immediately clean house and get fresher talent in a faster pace with less risk to them

[@alrightshutupofficialpodca4543]

Good stuff Perna

[@ChiefGore429]

Wow the reporting on reporting you do is great. It being your job It's like you're an insider at the company or something. Like you're taking us behind the curtain. This and the espn one might be the best. I like the silly stuff but dam this is great 👍

[@johndelaney2226]

Perna I have the same cassette tape shirt you’re wearing in the ad 😂.

[@samdaman0967]

You’re the best football content creator out here. And this is coming from a Raiders fan

[@SerenityNow9015]

The Mark Schlereth story 😂

[@Mcburger644]

To be fair, who doesn’t wanna destroy Barstool?

[@fetti_]

Obviously hundreds of thousands of people who still watch their content, buy merchandise, and go to Barstool events regularly.

[@Mcburger644]

@@fetti_Barstool has been terrible for years

[@JustaPersonTryinToHuman365]

​@fetti_ yes, we understand that people have bad taste and money to waste.

[@akaInfamous]

I really don't like Barstool😂

[@6andzdrizzy]

@@akaInfamousI thought I was just me 😂🤷🏾‍♂️

[@fattylumpkin9209]

Been putting a jar of minced garlic on sourdough and it's really good.

[@kevintross9778]

After every big game or big moment I go straight to barstool podcasts or personalities for their reaction before I even open an ESPN app.

[@52baldingindianjanitor72]

I've never been much of a hater, but I'm PRAYING for Barstool Sports downfall

[@allex_]

I hate to break it to you, but you sure sound like a hater

[@HillBillyBirdie]

The pirate ship will never sink.

[@nicktoth7051]

I feel not mentioning the sexual misconduct allegations against Portnoy, is a little misleading and irresponsible. Like you mentioned ESPN refused to work with Barstool but failed to really elaborate why.

[@kevinmunguia7381]

misleading or irresponsible in what way.... ESPN refused to work with them long before any of those ALLEGATIONS came out, and they remained as allegations because he kept receipts on everything that happened and protected himself from evil people

[@pm3550]

Cause they are just allegations and nothing came of it

[@patrickryan7400]

What about the sexual misconduct allegations made against you Nick?

[@alrightshutupofficialpodca4543]

I bought a bunch of Penn stock in 2022 definitely holding onto it

[@NRI-A]

WonTon Don stays as the best thing about barstool

[@JacaboBlanco]

12:50 great news for old barstool fans. I miss when it was more raw and less corporate

[@DavidM563]

“Hut huthut hut huthut huthut hut huthut hutut… hike hike hike”

[@edsonbojorquez2913]

I still do not have the most remote idea of what is barstool and what it does to make money, and it’s been what like 10 years

[@fredvergraaf8953]

ESPN is most watched at sports bars and airports where its muted.

[@Jungus69]

Hey just so you know markipliers friend talked about you on their podcast, so now your famous. Also if I saw you in public I would give you a FIRM high five

[@zpdrsn6315]

I am honestly sick of barstool sports but I definitely prefer them over ESPN

[@flybobbyfly]

I wonder how long till ESPN buys thatsgoodsports

[@destro5311]

This was dope!