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Can God create a stone he can't lift?

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The Meandering Gentleman

The Meandering Gentleman

3 ай бұрын

The omnipotence paradox refers to the limits, and definition, of omnipotence. God is traditionally referenced in this paradox, and throughout the years, multiple answers have been given.
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@Smksesh
@Smksesh 3 ай бұрын
Then God said “never mind I can lift the stone” then lifts it.
@TheMeanderingGentleman
@TheMeanderingGentleman 3 ай бұрын
It's almost as you were there =)
@Smksesh
@Smksesh 3 ай бұрын
@@TheMeanderingGentlemanI should start writing your bible then =)
@majoris_roborion
@majoris_roborion 3 ай бұрын
Mannnn, you are MASSIVELY underrated. kudos for the simple yet profound explanation
@TheMeanderingGentleman
@TheMeanderingGentleman 3 ай бұрын
Thanks! Really appreciate it!
@equaltemp7075
@equaltemp7075 3 ай бұрын
I'm not defending theism or atheism. I'm merely pointing out the absurdity of this so-called paradox. If God created a stone he couldn't lift, why would he then be expected to lift it? His inability to lift it is exactly how he created it.
@mikediz7353
@mikediz7353 3 ай бұрын
Because he's all-powerful so he should be able to? That's the premise of the paradox?
@thebestteacher7466
@thebestteacher7466 3 ай бұрын
My theory is if he created a stone he can't lift then the stone becomes God
@fxn6695
@fxn6695 3 ай бұрын
Well it's a contradictory statement in of itself. "Can an omnipotent being be not omnipotent?"​@@mikediz7353
@gabrielherbert.
@gabrielherbert. 3 ай бұрын
God is omnipotent so he can do the impossible, HA!
@TheMeanderingGentleman
@TheMeanderingGentleman 3 ай бұрын
Noooooo =)
@mohdameruddin7672
@mohdameruddin7672 3 ай бұрын
I think it's like quantum mechanics. Many events that doesn't make sense can happen at quantum level. Such as one particle can be present at several different locations at the same time. In case of God, maybe at quantum level, he can create a stone heavy enough that he can't lift - but at the same time, He can lift it
@ziyadshahar2031
@ziyadshahar2031 3 ай бұрын
God created everything. God created logic. merely thinking with logic wouldn't help
@mohdameruddin7672
@mohdameruddin7672 3 ай бұрын
Then what did you use, imagination?
@stiletto_ori3530
@stiletto_ori3530 3 ай бұрын
In my opinion he can create the stone. Because he was also able to create humans with the capacity of free will. (Which he cant fully control either) If god is an all mighty being he must have the power to limit himself by his choosing.
@groomedandgeounded
@groomedandgeounded 3 ай бұрын
Very interesting video as a person who has logics as one of the main subjects at school. Im gonna show this to my teacher.
@lautaroortiz5935
@lautaroortiz5935 3 ай бұрын
Or she!
@TheMeanderingGentleman
@TheMeanderingGentleman 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, true, or even it. You're right!
@tristanbrooks4755
@tristanbrooks4755 3 ай бұрын
This question is actually NOT about the stone, but about God's powers. The answer is no, God cannot create a stone he can't lift because God can do all things. Any stone created could be lifted by God. The issue with this question is people classify the "immovable stone" as a unique object and claim that God can create any object, so he could create the immovable stone. But the property "immovable" is only a reference to God's powers and isn't really about the stone at all. Since God's powers are unlimited, a "stone that can't be moved by God" is by definition impossible since God can move anything. This isn't to say that "we've found something God can't do!" It is only saying that the whole idea of an "immovable stone" vs. God's unlimited power basically amounts to saying "God can do anything but God can't do something" which is a logical contradiction.
@nazarkrylov4786
@nazarkrylov4786 3 ай бұрын
If to look at this "problem" without going deep (staying in the logic part of video) than it is obvoius that contradiction is in the definition of God.
@TheMeanderingGentleman
@TheMeanderingGentleman 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, i know it's sometimes used to "prove" God doesn't exist. But again, it's a problem of semantics: can we truly describe omnipotence with words?
@sebastianbucur5135
@sebastianbucur5135 3 ай бұрын
There are a lot of things that God cannot do. He cannot lie, he cannot sin, he cannot die, he cannot hate, he cannot be unjust etc. The question is stupid: Can God cannot? It has no logic, no sense.
@yuuk3i
@yuuk3i 3 ай бұрын
That means God cannot send us to hell. hence I can hate on God and live a life without any consequences
@yukselstas
@yukselstas 3 ай бұрын
Simple question, can you define that God had no beginning and has no end, can you define that, well i think not, you can't define everything, there are things that are beyond our understanding. Ps: the question is not directed at you personally, it's directed to any person that dwell so deep in philosophy, short answer for every unsolved philosophical questions is there are things that we can't define in our knowledge and better be left off, great video btw.
@lowframerateguy6439
@lowframerateguy6439 3 ай бұрын
You came up with the video idea when you were on the plane from Colombia
@TheMeanderingGentleman
@TheMeanderingGentleman 3 ай бұрын
Why?
@Ambal18a
@Ambal18a 3 ай бұрын
I had the question in my school but to be honest, it doesnt make any sense. God can create a stone that he cant lift, but god can also act against any laws or preset even if he supposedly gave it himself in the example. But good video bud
@Eyeduka
@Eyeduka 3 ай бұрын
If God is omnipotent he could have created the universe, why god is not the beginning, because god is subjected by the universe, because he can only make things according the the laws of the Universe, and therefore if God created the universe he would not be bound by its laws as he would have made them. Why is God subjected (being omnipotent) by the universe (God not being above the universe) because if God was omnipotent, he wouldn't have to make a world of sufferring for us to learn and experience, argument given by theists, on why God allows suffering. In other words everything would be perfect and there would be no need for any learning or experiencing. Which leads to a dilemma, if god is all powerful he can not be all loving and vice versa. Or a simpler explanation is that first, whatever humans are reffering to in every religion is not a omnipotent god, but a mythologically exaggerated rulers who were more advanced the humans, but not necessarily meaning that they were god/s. Also second explanation on why is the world and the universe harsh and non forgiving, simply because it is indifferent to anything and it is neutral, leading to lack of any omnipotent sentient being, and rather the universe itself is the origin of all and can be considered omnipotent while at the same time assuming it is not sentient, and no such omnipotent sentient being ever existed in the first place, but it was created in humans image, for our lack of understanding the universe and also it's reason to be created deeply rooted in our fears, in hope for a greater meaning and immortality.
@Solid_Gravy
@Solid_Gravy 3 ай бұрын
So we have this guy, Mr. God and he invents all logical laws, and you want to say you don't know if lifted the stone. I think the answer would be close to 'both and neither', if it's impossible, therefore it's possible. Trying to catch the guy with the title 'creator almighty' out with logical paradoxes, would just would seem kinda pointless to me, since it can't apply to him when it's so far bellow his pay grade. However, you do bring up something there with how we probably couldn't work this kinda thing out anyways, when with this kind of case it just leads to people arguing over semantics. Philosophy vibe made a video on this exact take I suggest anyone curious check it out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3fagKxjh6megqs
@astral6490
@astral6490 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately good sir, you and many people are falling for the trap of this problem being paradoxical, which is quite biased, and misinformed due to people not being able to fully comprehend what omnipotent means. Here is a quick way to actually answer this question. First you have to understand that being omnipotent (also you have been pronouncing it incorrectly) also includes being "omnipresent" which means being able to be everywhere at once, this includes not only on the physical dimension but also on the time axis, so basically being omnipotent by induction also means to be omnipresent and being omnipresent means being everywhere at the same time; therefore, god can exist in 2 different places at the same time. Second we will assume a scenario where god creates a plane of existence. god stands on that plane of existence and creates the rock that god will not be able to lift. At the same time god is omnipresent therefore god can also be carrying/lifting the entire plane of existence that includes god and the rock on it. meaning that god can be carrying both (not being able to lift the rock) and (being able to lift the rock) at the same time, since god was able to carry the plane carrying the rock, and the version of god's self that existed on that plane. Since being able to lift an object implies by default that you are able to carry anything on that object. If you are having trouble understanding or imagining it. imagine a person on a planet in space, on that planet is a person (god) who is not able to lift the rock, but at the very same time, there is a different bigger version of that person (god) who is lifting the entire planet and everything on it. Therefore the answer is : both yes and no because being able to do both is what makes god omnipotent.
@mateivasilache6063
@mateivasilache6063 3 ай бұрын
If God is omnipotent then He is also infinite. That puts Him in the position of both being able of creating a rock that he cannot lift and lifting the rock at the same time. That itself is omnipotence.
@TheMeanderingGentleman
@TheMeanderingGentleman 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, but if you take it logically, semantically, it doesn't make sense. I agree that omnipotence is something beyond words - he could do it, we just can't describe that using language.
@pretentioushab
@pretentioushab 3 ай бұрын
If Someone is Omnipotent and has to be in this predicament I think he could, make the Stone Unliftable, but, you can only prove its unliftablility when Someone is there to See it Right, so He could make the person seeing assume that he can/cannot lift the Rock at that moment when they see it?
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