It's worth noting that the output (Wattage) in C Band satellites is significantly smaller than KU.
@earlyadapter64311 ай бұрын
The dish size is little related to wavelength nor polarization, it is all about signal/noise ratio and signal strength emitted by the satellite. Also it is important that the numerical aperture of the LNB or feeder fits the dish. The ham operators working the QO-100 satellite use the same dish for circular polarized uplink at 2.4 GHz and linear polarized downling at 10.489 GHz. When the C-band stuff was developped, there were probably no LNBs available with a 0.3 dB noise figure. In the 90s, not only the dishes became smaller, but also the satellites shrunk, due to lower noise amplifiers.
@NorthcoasterHobby11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the information.
@earlyadapter64311 ай бұрын
@@NorthcoasterHobby Your channel makes me want to have a big and motorized dish in my garden, but in europe, the direct satellite reception didn't exist before the small dishes, so there is no surplus of big dishes. I looked up the aperture, so in C-band the LNBs are adjustable typically from F/D ranging from 0.28 to 0.42, and in europe the offset dishes have 0.6 or 0.62, so a C-Band LNB would overilluminate the european dish and a european LNB (X band or Ku ? dont know but say 10 GHz ) would underilluminate the C-band dish and therefore not benefit of its size. Cheers, F4HYZ
@danutaish3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.. you providing valuable information. Ku band dish size needs to be minimum 33" to 39". A smaller wouldn't be able to provide enough signal. Thank you... thank you.
@NorthcoasterHobby3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome, I appreciate you watching my videos! Thank you!📡
@donbest50243 жыл бұрын
Great video as always
@NorthcoasterHobby3 жыл бұрын
@@donbest5024 Thank you!
@sethbessinger20253 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Do you have a video showing how an LNB works? I was trying to see if I could make a makeshift satellite dish for C-Band.
@NorthcoasterHobby3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome, I appreciate you watching it! Here’s a video on KU band LNBs: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3fadJ2hqNtogJo Here’s one on C-band: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpvQkoFsZ8qZfcU The idea of how an LNB works is the same for both C band and KU band. Hope these help, best wishes.📡
@TheGuyNobodyReallyLikes2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see this guy make a video about using a small kitchen dish, attaching LNB to it, and receiving one or two channels from the satellite. On another note, I've seen pay TV companies using 1.2 meter and 1.8 meter C-band dish. But those companies are smart. They've put a chip inside their set-top box to stop them from showing free channels. They only show their own pay channels. Some pay TV companies used the VideoCrypt Decoder for the terrestrial service in the 90s.
@NorthcoasterHobby2 жыл бұрын
Trying to make a satellite dish out of a kitchen dish is probably not worth the effort. It would have to be more of a bowl, and a pretty big bowl at that.
@TheGuyNobodyReallyLikes2 жыл бұрын
@@NorthcoasterHobby Some years ago I watched a video on KZbin about a guy actually making a satellite dish out of the kitchen bowl. He succeeded in getting one or two channels. People were joking about him receiving the food channel. There is a documentary I believe called 'The Dish'. It is about Iran where people make satellite dish out of big pot lids. People aren't allowed to own satellite dishes there.
@donsatman22733 жыл бұрын
Do you think a 1.2m commercial satellite dish will pick up the CTV mux on 119w C band? I am in western Canada & have trees blocking my 10’ dish from getting this bird
@NorthcoasterHobby3 жыл бұрын
I would say not likely, based on the fact that these channels generally have a higher FEC of 5/6 (forward error correction), channels with a higher FEC have a higher carrier-to-noise ratio, so more signal is required to decode the channel over the noise floor. A larger dish is usually needed for transponders with a higher FEC. But you can always give it a try, if you have the equipment. But I wouldn’t buy the equipment expecting that result. A bigger dish is better in this hobby. I have trees (neighbors) that block signals as well. It’s a bit frustrating but I just try to think of ways to work around it. Best wishes.📡📡
@stanallred51842 жыл бұрын
i always want to get a dual axxis dish mover for my 10 footer also used to have about 20 ten footers was thinking bout a phased array at home almost did it
@danielreeves47993 жыл бұрын
So what channels can you get?
@NorthcoasterHobby3 жыл бұрын
It depends on the satellite you tune to, and your location. If you try using a C-band LNB on a KU band dish you may only get a few very strong transponders, so it might be only a few channels, depending on the satellite. Like I said in the video, you’ll need a large C-band dish to really enjoy C-band satellite. Thanks for watching.
@MarkPentler8 ай бұрын
I am wondering about trying to get C-Band Inmarsat AERO data on as small a dish as possible from the U.K. I'm wondering realistically how small I can go. I've seen it done on an 80cm offset dish. I'd want to use it with a hackRF if anyone had any advice?
@wes5150.2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't 3.7Ghz to 4.2Ghz reallocated to 5G Cell Phone ? What are the programs you're able to receive ?
@NorthcoasterHobby2 жыл бұрын
They’ve moved C Band up to 3.8 GHz. You’ll get channels you can generally receive with an antenna, international channels, news feeds, an other oddball channels. You won’t get pay TV or cable channels, only unencrypted channels.
@stanallred51842 жыл бұрын
what about c band circular is there any channels ? and ive seen some use a oh i forgot didnt they make a scaler ring the had a hole for a direct tv lnb or something like that
@NorthcoasterHobby2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure about the DirecTV scalar ring but I know circular C-band isn’t used in North America. Free satellite TV channels are linear polarized.
@joe101178 ай бұрын
any newer channels coming to ota ??? outlaw 365 are great...but wondering if anymore
@NorthcoasterHobby8 ай бұрын
Not that I’m aware of right now, but I will do my best to keep you updated!
@joe101178 ай бұрын
thanx wish were were neighbors lol
@NorthcoasterHobby8 ай бұрын
@@joe10117 😄
@pomegranatestew4278 Жыл бұрын
Can I use c band to receive Ku band signals
@NorthcoasterHobby Жыл бұрын
It depends. If the dish is solid surface, yes. If it’s mesh, then only a dish with very tight mesh (small holes) will work. The KU signal is so small it might pass right through the mesh as opposed to being reflected back to the LNB.
@pomegranatestew4278 Жыл бұрын
So I could set up a c band dish with 2 lnbs, one for c band and one for Ku band?
@NorthcoasterHobby Жыл бұрын
@@pomegranatestew4278 Yes, that can be done.
@pomegranatestew4278 Жыл бұрын
@@NorthcoasterHobby Thank you very much. I am very happy to be a subscription of this channel.
@stanallred51842 жыл бұрын
dont forget we can use a ku/c band lnb on the big dish
@NorthcoasterHobby2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, it’s just something I’ve never personally tried.
@stanleybest88332 жыл бұрын
Subscriber Ku satellites can weigh a ton. Powerful
@NorthcoasterHobby2 жыл бұрын
Yes they can.
@stevenrobertson70694 ай бұрын
You think i can get metv on a 4 foot with a c band lmb
@NorthcoasterHobby4 ай бұрын
You’ll need a much bigger dish to receive MeTV. Try to find an 8 or 10 foot C band dish.