Can I save this old abused Trials bike? (Seized internals...)

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Classic Octane

Classic Octane

6 ай бұрын

In this weeks will it run video I work on this 2006 GasGas Trials bike that hasn't run in who knows how long. Thanks for watching!
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@tonyfisher805
@tonyfisher805 6 ай бұрын
Chain is way too short now , you will damage the drive output shaft / bearings . Cooling fan motor bearings are failing , they are non serviceable . New fan required , also looks like the rear shock absorber is shot and lost all its damping . Water in the gearbox is usually down to a worn water pump shaft/ seal . These are all very common problem on old Gas Gas trials bikes . Have fun though .
@FunWithAJ
@FunWithAJ 2 ай бұрын
So what's going on Taylor? Correct me if I'm wrong I thought you quit product management to do this full time. However the past year your uploads have been super inconsistent. Is it because KZbin isn't paying you enough in ads?
@ReMotoCycle
@ReMotoCycle 5 ай бұрын
Dude, your videos are phenomenal. You can be a full-time KZbinr. Look at how big your channel has grown and imagine if you committed. Can't say it enough man, thank you so much for all of your incredible content. Especially on your KZ750 twin series. I'm building one myself. From your paint DIY, to your exhaust building, you are a phenomenal creator. You are great on camera, and seem to be a natural communicator. Jump start it!
@handyhippie6548
@handyhippie6548 6 ай бұрын
that broken piece was part of the sealing surface for the cover, which is prolly why there was no oil in the clutch, and it had water in it. after they broke the kicker, they rode it through some water hazard. a new case is the only real way to repair it, and a new bike prolly isn't much more than the cost of the repair + parts.
@edwinarmstrong9175
@edwinarmstrong9175 6 ай бұрын
Loved this video Taylor!!!!! Glad to see you’re getting into different styles of motorcycling!!!!! Looking forward to your next posts!!!!!
@lovethesummermonths
@lovethesummermonths 6 ай бұрын
Glad to see more content... can't wait for the next video!
@davidaldrich3488
@davidaldrich3488 6 ай бұрын
As usual fun watching you. Love your matter of fact approach and calmness when stuff is confusing Great diy
@Sander_Vonk
@Sander_Vonk 6 ай бұрын
Great video again Taylor!!! Keep them coming!!👍🏻💪🏻
@Martin_IPL5990
@Martin_IPL5990 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Really nice to see someone working on a trials bike, enjoy.......
@mikeboutin2078
@mikeboutin2078 6 ай бұрын
Awesome. Nice to see different bikes. Have fun with it.
@rene-yvescote3954
@rene-yvescote3954 6 ай бұрын
Nice work Trial bikes are a lot of fun. Enjoy
@micksterboone4517
@micksterboone4517 6 ай бұрын
Well, that sure was different! Trials riding is harder than people think. Practice, practice, practice.
@PacoTrials
@PacoTrials 4 ай бұрын
Amazing video, can't wait to watch the next episode! Would be awesome to see how it rides and if can reach high revs clean🙌🏻
@samtennery1182
@samtennery1182 6 ай бұрын
glad to see more content thanks
@DangerousSportsForSeniors
@DangerousSportsForSeniors 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@rrz464
@rrz464 4 ай бұрын
Late to watching, but better late than never. Hope all has been well the last 2 months enjoying this little thing! Stay safe, and looking forward to the next video! It is always hard to go with on something after someone. While DIY is definitely something I am am advocate for, there are places to start with that. Looks like someone started on a motorcycle. It's all learning, but I think patience was what was lacking in the last mechanic. Keep up the good work!
@magellanicspaceclouds
@magellanicspaceclouds 6 ай бұрын
Hell yeah. Back to moto content!
@trevjones1315
@trevjones1315 6 ай бұрын
Have you ever seen Allen Millyard. I think you would like him. A proper engineering genius. 👍
@brian44graham
@brian44graham 6 ай бұрын
Yes, Alan would’ve welded the aluminium piece back in no problem why he thought he wouldn’t need to weld in God only knows 😂
@johncorlett3699
@johncorlett3699 6 ай бұрын
nice things trials bike, absolutely designed with one purpose in mind, a pure thoroughbred
@rhyscarter3695
@rhyscarter3695 5 ай бұрын
Love your content, I'm fairly new to the restoration scene and im a Honda guy. I'm currently working on an 83 vt500c. If you ever come across a honda cruiser that would be an awesome video. Thank you for your content.
@meymoto4810
@meymoto4810 6 ай бұрын
Great job dude! Nice to see another video. That spring was a paid actor. I gotta ask… what was more expensive… that massive Stanley mug or the project bike?
@jeffferguson899
@jeffferguson899 6 ай бұрын
i love your channel and also trials bikes. win win
@oldguysoldbikes
@oldguysoldbikes 6 ай бұрын
Great troubleshooting. Always a little harder when someone else has been there before you.
@PNW_Trials_Adventures
@PNW_Trials_Adventures 6 ай бұрын
The guy you mentioned is Jim Snell, he sadly passed away about a month ago. Gotta love working on stuff after someone without a clue went after it. I was expecting the broken piece to be from them trying jam the clutch basket while loosening the bolt. Ever since the Gas Gas went to the Pro models in 02, the bikes have just been kinda iffy IMO. I'm pretty sure those cases are actually magnesium.
@martingorman9691
@martingorman9691 4 ай бұрын
I think he's got a proper job again given up on KZbin
@samtennery1182
@samtennery1182 6 ай бұрын
JB weld is good stuff it'll work fine
@girthquake9655
@girthquake9655 6 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@wadetyler5056
@wadetyler5056 6 ай бұрын
That will be a fun toy!
@teamanvilracing
@teamanvilracing 2 ай бұрын
Gas Gas engine cases and covers have a high amount of magnesium in them to save weight. Welding them requires the correct filler rod, tungsten and preferably a sealed inert gas environment for castings. Ask me how I know...
@robertslinger3811
@robertslinger3811 2 ай бұрын
The broken alu piece is a seat for the clutch seal, so without it oil wd leak away. The water in there looked like coolant so the water pump seal needs replacing. Did you measure the clutch pack? Spec is I think 17.5 +/-0.5mm. With water in there the plates may swell. Bcs on a GG there are only three plates, tolerance is very tight and any deviations lead to problems. Upside is replacement is cheap & when it is dialed in, bcs of the diaphragm, it is really sweet. The screw in the middle of the clutch drum fixing the cage to the crank is a design weakness. It is very thin & hollow to allow oil flow, so the torque is *very* specific. Too tight & it snaps, too loose & it works free, falls into the clutch gears, either way wreaking havoc. In competition & GG servicing, this screw is removed (believe it or not) & the clutch pack held in position internally only by the pressure on the top hat piston on the end of the slave cylinder. Other than that it should run way smoother than this, particularly after a carb clean. Is the air filter clean?
@kevinproctor8743
@kevinproctor8743 6 ай бұрын
Hey enjoy your approach to problems. Pull it apart and work it out. What did you find for the cause of coolant in the clutch case now that the pump turns, a failed water pump seal ?
@johncorlett3699
@johncorlett3699 6 ай бұрын
or water ingress through the broken aluminium hole, rain, fording? if there is colour in the coolant but the drained water is clear, probably not the water pump
@brianbrians3157
@brianbrians3157 6 ай бұрын
Considering the level of carelessness and incompetence the last guy that worked on that bike had I wouldn't trust it until I went over every nut and bolt. Last thing you want is to take it over a jump and the front wheel comes flying off or something.
@samtennery1182
@samtennery1182 6 ай бұрын
is the seal on the water pump bad only reason for liquid to be in that area
@onkeljulius95
@onkeljulius95 6 ай бұрын
Riding trails in rough terrain is extremely fun but very exhausting.
@cozydram1
@cozydram1 6 ай бұрын
Neat
@isaiahreyes5310
@isaiahreyes5310 2 ай бұрын
Do u have any tips on taking spark plugs out of Honda CB 650 1980? I can swap out one and 4 but 2 and 3 are tricky. Access hole is too small for my spark plug nuts. Please help!!
@daveco1270
@daveco1270 6 ай бұрын
Good detective work considering you didn't have a shop manual. Somebody was a little sloppy putting it back together. What's the purpose of those fingers on the clutch? I've never seen that before. Are they thin metal flaps?
@ajacstern7145
@ajacstern7145 5 ай бұрын
Those are the springs of the clutch, similar to the way a car clutch works
@ArbutusWVI
@ArbutusWVI 5 ай бұрын
They are the really levers that the clutch slave cylinder transfers it's motion through to the pressure plate, when pulling in the clutch handlebar lever. The pressure to the clutch plate pack is provided by a Belleville spring, not the 10 clutch release arms, as the G/G parts book describes them. Classic Octane should get ahold of the parts book, the kickstart shaft looks to be missing a special washer beside the circlip he replaced.
@user-rj4iv2kc2m
@user-rj4iv2kc2m Ай бұрын
Taylor, are you still vapor blasting carbs that people disassemble and send in? If so, how do i get ahold of you?
@madusathe2nd333
@madusathe2nd333 5 ай бұрын
Hi mate. My cb550 1978 does not spark when i push the start button.. But when I move the kill switch it sparks and then stops but it funny because I'm not pushing the start button. It just sparks only when I move the kill switch. I have electrical ignition on it. I bought it with it already installed. Any help please. I can't find the problem
@Sander_Vonk
@Sander_Vonk 2 ай бұрын
Hey Taylor. It’s been a while.. Everything well? How is the kitchen coming out?😉 We miss your new videos on the channel. Hope to see you back soon.. Greetings!
@RickV6
@RickV6 6 ай бұрын
I think 2 stroke engines can run backwards sometimes, common issue
@paulgrep3193
@paulgrep3193 6 ай бұрын
I think the chain runs loose because of the amount of suspension movement on these bikes?...
@jimamizzi1
@jimamizzi1 6 ай бұрын
Correct, I hope he reads the comments because the chain is way to tight
@Ijusthopeitsquick
@Ijusthopeitsquick 6 ай бұрын
Trials bikes don't have long travel suspension, not like an enduro bike, since they don't hit obstacles at speed.
@simonhoughton9884
@simonhoughton9884 6 ай бұрын
Here is another video of helpful tips when working on a Gasgas trials bike - kzbin.info/www/bejne/joO4iHZuqsR8gJY
@DFranco23
@DFranco23 26 күн бұрын
Anyone know what happened to him?
@krazed0451
@krazed0451 3 ай бұрын
Water pump maintenance: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aH67XoN4j9CJiJI
@martingorman9691
@martingorman9691 3 ай бұрын
Barr hes gone
@eric_seguin
@eric_seguin 4 ай бұрын
I've watched a bunch of your videos. Tried to enjoy them. They are pretty good. But butchering classic bikes sucks.
@paulwhite7475
@paulwhite7475 6 ай бұрын
Its going to cost you a set of gaskets but it would be best to strip it and weld it correctly
@samtennery1182
@samtennery1182 6 ай бұрын
ok your broken case piece would allow water in there
@JamesSmith-jr2rc
@JamesSmith-jr2rc 4 ай бұрын
Looks like you quit KZbin again.
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