Can I Update Wheel From 7 Speed Cassette To 8, 9, or 10 Speed Cassette?

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RJ The Bike Guy

RJ The Bike Guy

Күн бұрын

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@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 5 жыл бұрын
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@frankzappa2451
@frankzappa2451 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to know. Just found a brand new in the box 9 speed hg cassette at good will for 5 bucks. 👍✌️
@zaidharis6848
@zaidharis6848 4 жыл бұрын
Ììììììiìi
@zaidharis6848
@zaidharis6848 4 жыл бұрын
Nahi
@amtamarind
@amtamarind Жыл бұрын
@RJ The Bike Guy - does the chain also need to be changed to match the width of the cassette cogs? In which case wouldn’t the crankset also need to be changed?
@oplkfdhgk
@oplkfdhgk 10 ай бұрын
how about the other way around? don't really need or want all the gears that my bike has.
@MB-uj7pp
@MB-uj7pp 3 жыл бұрын
You are actually the only guy on web providing the 2 HG freehub body sizes existing : 30mm (for 7v) and 35mm (8, 9, 10v). A big thank you sir
@r.massattack4052
@r.massattack4052 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is 5 years old but your explanation of if you can add gears or not was so simple, clear and easy to understand. Appreciate your video.
@StopaskingformynameYouTube
@StopaskingformynameYouTube 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing us all a big favor! This information was hard to come by, but luckily you just clarified everything!
@matoatlantis
@matoatlantis 4 жыл бұрын
You answered so many questions I was searching for. Most of your videos are few years old already but for sure they don't stop being relevant. Thanks.
@AbderrahmenBesbes
@AbderrahmenBesbes 5 жыл бұрын
i've been looking for this for ages, thank you RJ
@cillianennis6131
@cillianennis6131 4 жыл бұрын
This has saved me about £100
@nodi9936
@nodi9936 4 жыл бұрын
Me too
@LvcianoN
@LvcianoN 8 жыл бұрын
awesome, RJ! remember my 1983 Trek 520? Im looking to upgrade my current 2x8, you just confirmed my belief of it being possible to jump from from 8 to 9 or 10. Thanks, man!
@whidbeyhiker4364
@whidbeyhiker4364 6 жыл бұрын
Pro tip, you should be able to see the spacer without taking it off. In other words, if the cassette is 7 speed and the cassette is all the way against the flange of the freehub with no spacer then it is not 8 speed or higher compatible. Just look for the spacer before going to the effort of disassembly and measurement. The reason I mention this isn't to dispute the poster but if you are out "used bike shopping" or see a bike at a garage sale quick tips to identify parts can save you from making a purchase that won't benifiet you.
@laverdadtriunfa
@laverdadtriunfa Жыл бұрын
That is a good point, but in my case, it was the right bike until I sent it to colombia, and now I have to get more and higher gears , then is less expensive than buying a new bike. 😊
@erw91
@erw91 4 ай бұрын
Thank you mate very helpful
@JuanitoSu
@JuanitoSu 5 жыл бұрын
great video! Exactly the question i had in mind. Now if there was some sort of database where we can look up a specific model bike and from a certain year and quickly learn what (if) could be upgraded to, that would be fantastic!
@grahamlane131
@grahamlane131 8 жыл бұрын
you have covered the details in other videos but i add this for people viewing to source first time information: moving from a 7 to 8 cassette should have little issue, from nine to 11 you will expect to replace as well as the cassette, the chain, chain ring, & both front and rear mech's.
@arrosconpollo1
@arrosconpollo1 Жыл бұрын
This comment really helped me! Upgrading old Cannondale
@reyadztv
@reyadztv 3 жыл бұрын
very informative video.. keep posting... newbee here in biking from cebu, Philippines... i minimized my expense on my bike upgrade...thank you so much..
@feliperodriguez6885
@feliperodriguez6885 4 жыл бұрын
AWESOME info been looking for this for a while, have a 2018 marlin 5 now I know what to look for if I want to upgrade the drive train. Thanks for the the money and time saved.
@chewsrise9439
@chewsrise9439 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Good explanation. Thanks. 35mm length the key.
@jag1870
@jag1870 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much RJ for posting this! I'm currently updating a 96 Trek 820 Mountain Track and this info is exactly what I was looking for.
@mxkcrm
@mxkcrm 2 ай бұрын
I have an 830 lol have you have a chance to check?
@RadioSnivins
@RadioSnivins 8 жыл бұрын
Informative as always. Another thing I've found is that some cassettes have protruding pins that hold the low gears together, so there's not a flush surface on the lowest gear, and it breaks plastic spacers.
@LvcianoN
@LvcianoN 8 жыл бұрын
I have used a file on those plastic spacers to make a notch in order to clear the spacers, no problems.
@RadioSnivins
@RadioSnivins 8 жыл бұрын
Yer, me too ... after having cracked one. They're brittle fellows. They've got a smidge of bend, but not much, and they disintegrate. Safe rolling.
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 8 жыл бұрын
I talk about this in this other video around the 2:00 mark: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKPHZot3hsual6M
@CKBrew
@CKBrew 2 жыл бұрын
RJ!! As per usual, you're the MAN! A follow up question: As the selection seems to be vastly greater for 8 speed cassettes, in worst case, can you just buy an 8 speed cassette and throw out one of the cogwheels and fit on to your 7 speed hub??
@zmurray9499
@zmurray9499 6 ай бұрын
The only simple explanation on KZbin👍🏼
@jmjavs5740
@jmjavs5740 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this explanation really clear and helpful. I bought a 2nd hand mtb, with 7spd cassette, after I checked your video I go right away and checked mine and found no spacer. But then few months later, I found out that this model originally had 8spd. Not sure if there are other parts changed aside from the freehub and cassette.
@PedroElena1000
@PedroElena1000 4 жыл бұрын
Very good explanation , congratulations from Spain!
@carolynbrown3076
@carolynbrown3076 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to upgrade from 6 now I'm ancient and find mountains a bit tough. I'd like a 1-1. My bike was built for me when I used to race in 1988, and I love the 531c frame for touring which is all I do now. It used to be impossible to fit a 7 speed, but I guess chains have become narrower -- could I possibly fit a 7 speed (or more?). I cannot find a bike shop who even know what I am talking about! I used to be fairly competent at maintenance. This is the best advice I've found so far!
@prashantsinghpal
@prashantsinghpal 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about upgrading your videos have really helped me a lot and also in understanding about my bike, you clearly explain everything. Thank you Sir.
@fairlady350
@fairlady350 6 ай бұрын
Thanks! You saved me money and time. I'm sticking with my 7 speed..
@bigeyejim
@bigeyejim 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I found this first!! Thanks for saving me some time and research!
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 8 жыл бұрын
Info about 11 speed: In case any one want to upgrade to 11 speed cassette, on standard 10 speed cassette it's possible,but you will get chain drop when back pedalling,because of the position of the cassette, a 11 speed compatible freehub/wider freehub,will fix this issue. the further from the centre/closer to the frame.I got Hope Pro 4,it sue a spacer for 10& 11 speed cassettes.
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 8 жыл бұрын
11 speed is a slightly wider freehub than the 8/9/10 speed freehub. So you are unlikely to find a bike with a 7 speed cassette that will take an 11 speed cassette.
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 8 жыл бұрын
I did this with XT M8000 cassette. On a formula/bontrager hub with 10speed freehub.
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 8 жыл бұрын
Of course,I knew that.
@Shalmaneser1
@Shalmaneser1 8 жыл бұрын
It's almost enough to make me buy an entirely new hub and restring!
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 8 жыл бұрын
Why do you need 11 speed? Really, how much is that extra gear going to get you?
@krzysiu4003
@krzysiu4003 6 жыл бұрын
YES, exactly the info about freehub width I was looking for. Thanks.
@worshipman
@worshipman 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, thank you very very much for your information, and for taking time to do this video, sharing this knowledge. Thanks again. Sorry for my bad english.
@geoffpoole483
@geoffpoole483 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks RJ. That video has saved me a lot of aggravation, time and money.
@melomangila7782
@melomangila7782 4 жыл бұрын
Lot of thanks Rj, you're videos or basically you are a big help.
@event4216
@event4216 5 жыл бұрын
I see non-upgradeable hub is same my old mtb has) Rather would consider going 1x7 instead of adding more gears. Track I use is pretty flat, though.
@zebounce
@zebounce 7 жыл бұрын
I love you RJ, your videos are awesome and very useful
@nujanep7354
@nujanep7354 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info and very informative. We'll done and as always YOU ARE THE MAN!!!
@monstrp85
@monstrp85 2 жыл бұрын
Came across this vid the second time because now I know the answer to converting a 7 speed to 1x7. You don’t have to upgrade to 8 speed. Take the 11-42T 8spd cassette and swap your old 12T gear ring into it, making a 1x7 compatible setup. Hope I didn’t confuse anyone.
@knightsljx
@knightsljx 2 жыл бұрын
this video is a god-send. you would think this information would be widely available on every cycling website or video. But noooooo.... everyone just says the 7 speed hub is different from the 8/9/10 speed hub. Thanks, what am I supposed to do with that lack-of-information?
@jhunmonzon7714
@jhunmonzon7714 5 жыл бұрын
Helped a lot sir thank you very much...watching from Philippines here...😉
@danijayugay9599
@danijayugay9599 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@yingle6027
@yingle6027 Жыл бұрын
I have a 7 speed cassette on an 8 gear bike. Is there a cheap and easy way around this issue to stop the chain from coming off when I reach the end of the gearing? Thanks.
@addons_
@addons_ 24 күн бұрын
Screw the L limit screw in to limit the movement of the derailleur
@jasweb147
@jasweb147 6 жыл бұрын
Just put on (30mins ago) a Shimano 11 speed cassette on a Shimano FH-M565 8 speed cassette. My 1995 Mongoose IBOC Zero G MtB. There wasn't a spacer on the free hub either. I've just ordered an 11 speed chain. Already have a SRAM 11 speed shifter and rear derailleur. Will let you know how it comes out, once I complete the project.
@1clnsdime1
@1clnsdime1 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to see how this works out for you. I have a 9 speed and have considered doing this.
@jasweb147
@jasweb147 6 жыл бұрын
Worked out great, just came back in from a 10mile ride...
@1clnsdime1
@1clnsdime1 6 жыл бұрын
So I would have to get a shifter, chain, derailleur, and cassette to got from my 9 speed?
@jasweb147
@jasweb147 6 жыл бұрын
andrew geary What vintage MTB do you have and what are the specs? Which freehub do you have? I lucked out on my conversion and didn’t have to get new wheels. You’ll want to get a new bottom bracket as well.
@jasweb147
@jasweb147 6 жыл бұрын
andrew geary Yes, because you’ll be putting on a new 11 speed transmission.
@OLKIEMTB
@OLKIEMTB 7 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always so helpful!
@sinosoul
@sinosoul 8 ай бұрын
this vid is 7 years old but STILL used it to measure the hubs. And! got an 11spd casette to fit onto a 35mm freehub body!
@UKSHARPSHOOTER78
@UKSHARPSHOOTER78 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this in the process of upgrading my drivetrain from a 3x8 to a 1x9 and the cassette I'm using is a sunrace 11-42T 9 speed that will be going on to a 35mm hub which is exactly what I have Thanks for this video very useful information 👍
@sebastiankowdrysh9518
@sebastiankowdrysh9518 2 жыл бұрын
If ya don’t mind me asking, what bike is this on? And what are you upgrading from? I have an older Devinci hardtail I’m trying to do the same to, 1x9, it’s currently got a 3x8, are the cassettes then same width?
@roywimar
@roywimar 5 жыл бұрын
great Video. thanks from Surabaya, Indonesia
@wingtor
@wingtor 2 жыл бұрын
Very useful! Thank you! 👍🏻👍🏻
@rohanchivukula2809
@rohanchivukula2809 4 жыл бұрын
This was extremely helpful, THANKS!!! Also I have a 9 speed currently and im planning on getting an 11 speed if I do that will i need to get a new chain, shifters and deraullier? Thanks this was very informative
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 4 жыл бұрын
11 speed probably won't fit on a 9 speed hub. Yes you would need new chain, shifters and maybe derailleur.
@rohanchivukula2809
@rohanchivukula2809 4 жыл бұрын
RJ The Bike Guy ok thanks
@jasweb147
@jasweb147 6 жыл бұрын
RJ - all of your videos are excellent. Subbing!! :D
@jenniferpayne7631
@jenniferpayne7631 3 жыл бұрын
Love all your videos
@steenroel
@steenroel 4 жыл бұрын
Very usefull video👍👍
@rcfriscoflyer
@rcfriscoflyer 5 жыл бұрын
Most informative, Thank You so Much!
@unclefreddieDied
@unclefreddieDied 4 жыл бұрын
impressive, most impressive
@sidewalks22
@sidewalks22 3 жыл бұрын
I feel you roxx rj,, sorry about your fall btw
@fredblair8230
@fredblair8230 3 жыл бұрын
just what i needed to know thank you RJ
@fabioamaral8639
@fabioamaral8639 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your videos
@paulcowell7588
@paulcowell7588 4 жыл бұрын
Always keeps it simple..perfect.
@monit2354
@monit2354 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man, it’d be great help if you could checkout the 2020 trek marlin 5 and tell me if it is upgradable or not. It comes with a 7 speed shimano HG200, 12-32
@the_coreyjohnson
@the_coreyjohnson 3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever find out if the 2020 trek marlin 5 is upgradable?
@monit2354
@monit2354 3 жыл бұрын
@@the_coreyjohnson it’s not
@DCdc25
@DCdc25 8 жыл бұрын
thanks for this info. Great videos. Well done.
@xelionizer
@xelionizer 4 жыл бұрын
2:43 It looks like there is a flange (extrusions) of about 3mm in length on that piece of metal. If I had access to lathe, would it be feasible to remove them, and would that give me enough room to mount an 8-speed cassette? Thanks
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Shrug. You are on your own with anything like that!
@aaba1027
@aaba1027 4 жыл бұрын
Definitly it will work
@bartvranckenBZR
@bartvranckenBZR 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid! 1 question.. can i put my old speed 7 cassette bike on a trainer that comes with a speed 11 by just change the 11 cassette to a 7 one? Or do i need another body? TY!
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/rn7ZdWSKadZ5Z6c
@ns671fr
@ns671fr 3 жыл бұрын
As long as you have a modern standard freehub you can go up to a non xd 12 speed. Idk if in shimano its only up to 11 speed might be due to the way sram designed their cassettes. Love to hear your thoughts if shimano 12 speed cassette can fit. There's extra tricks to file down that elevated notch to give you more room on the hub.
@kevinportilla9320
@kevinportilla9320 3 жыл бұрын
Shimano 12 speed needs microspline, but You can use a sunrace 11-51
@hlemail
@hlemail Жыл бұрын
Hi RJ, I have a 7 speed hub without the spacer (30mm). When I fitted a 10 speed cassette and removed the smallest (11T) cog, it will fit in the shorter hub. The lock ring is still pressing against the new smallest (now 12T) cog. Question: will this set up work? What shifter do I need, 9 speed or 10 speed?
@ricardodelrey7677
@ricardodelrey7677 6 жыл бұрын
I have a vintage SHIMANO FH-HG50 on vintage aero clincher rim rear wheel that only takes 7 speed cassette. I found out that buying a 8-speed-freehub and longer rear axle is cheaper than buying a new rear wheel so is it possible to replace the axles and free-hubs to upgrade? thanks : )
@dbldzo
@dbldzo 4 жыл бұрын
Quick question - do you keep the same rear derailleur and shifters after changing to more cogs? I wanna do this update to my road bike from 6 speed to 8 speed. Thank you.
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 4 жыл бұрын
You might be able to keep the derailleur, but the shifters have to change. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rn7ZdWSKadZ5Z6c
@dbldzo
@dbldzo 4 жыл бұрын
@@RJTheBikeGuy Thank you so much for your fast reply, kind sir. Will keep that in mind for future.
@johntanchin2545
@johntanchin2545 3 жыл бұрын
what are your thoughts on a vintage Shimano Exage FH-HG50? can it be upgraded?
@timesup6386
@timesup6386 4 жыл бұрын
Any 135mm OLD axle can be converted to fit the 35mm FH for 8-12 speed. SunRace has the 11 & 12 speed cassettes for the Shimano FH
@DavidR8
@DavidR8 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Can a 7 spd (30mm) freehub body be replaced by a 10 spd+ (35mm) freehub body?
@jsmithepa
@jsmithepa 8 жыл бұрын
Remember, upping the number of cogs is just one thing, will you need new shifters, new derailleurs, heck I still have 90's down tube shifters so I'd probably have to buy new brakes/shifters too, and that sounds like a whole new group set! Staying with 7 for now.
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 8 жыл бұрын
The shifters need to match the cogs. The derailleur just needs to be compatible (SIS) and reach the cogs. So a 9 speed derailleur might work with 7, 8 or 10 speed also.
@georgeb.wolffsohn30
@georgeb.wolffsohn30 8 жыл бұрын
RJ The Bike Guy that's why I love my Simplex Retrofriction Levers ! ! ditch the index stuff ! !
@georgeb.wolffsohn30
@georgeb.wolffsohn30 8 жыл бұрын
oh, and to eliminate over shifting, get a Simplex "demultiplicateur". you can make finer adjustments more easily.
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 8 жыл бұрын
Don't get me wrong, having indexed shifting with more gears is nice. But the difference between 10 and 11 cogs is negligible unless you are a high level cyclist needing to get into very specific rpm/power ranges. 7 or 8 cogs are probably enough for most people.
@johnjerizlopezignacio3891
@johnjerizlopezignacio3891 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, one more question. Can I upgrade from 7 speed road bike to an 11 speed wheelset? (Planing to buy a groupset.)
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 4 жыл бұрын
The hub will be wider. From 126mm, to 130mm (or a hair wider). A steel frame can be spread, otherwise, no.
@marcushurst6757
@marcushurst6757 Жыл бұрын
Can you just change the wheel out for one that has more chain rings? And would you have to change the chain to a longer one? Or could you use the same one?
@magpie7791
@magpie7791 7 жыл бұрын
@RJ the bike guy if you can't put a 10 s cassette on 126mm rear freewheel? can you just buy a 130mm with a free hub to fit a 10 speed? would that work
@buddywell
@buddywell 5 жыл бұрын
Hi RJ, my 90s steel bike has a 7 sp cassette wheel that need to be replaced as cracked. Can I fit 8 speed wheel on the bike and use 7 speed only as not to replace downtube shifters? Axle of 8 sp is little wider but looks like only on LHS whith wider nut - can i replacer the nut with narrower and cut some 5mm of axle from LHS to fit onto bike?
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 5 жыл бұрын
An 8 speed wheel will likely be wider than a 7 speed wheel. No, you can't just make the wheel narrower. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6jbdoOIoJh_fMk
@Ihaveadashcam
@Ihaveadashcam 7 жыл бұрын
What maintenance or things should i service and replace on a 16 year old bicycle 2001 Raleigh M30 XL frame in blue.
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 7 жыл бұрын
Clean everything. Overhaul what needs overhauling. Replace what needs replacing. Fixing what needs fixing. Adjust what needs adjusting.
@tato4740
@tato4740 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 trek marlin 5 with the 3x7 drivetrain, it has a shimano dc-27 free hub and it has what looks like a spacer behind the cassette. It is about 1/4 inch but I’m not sure the exact measurement since I did not remove anything from the wheel. Would I be able to remove that 7spd cassette and the spacer to put in a 9 or 10 speed?
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Follow the video.
@bottechiam8451
@bottechiam8451 4 жыл бұрын
Wish you would go over the proper shimano spacers (the ones that go behind the cassette) for each speed upgrade.
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 4 жыл бұрын
I do mention them in some of my videos.
@wilburtmoreno469
@wilburtmoreno469 5 жыл бұрын
I have a question. Is there a limitation for installing the wheel with upgraded 11 speed or 9speed cassette to the frame that only has 7speed originally?
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. The hubs are wider. So the frame spacing might be a limit. If it's a steel frame you might be able to cold set it wider. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5XMk6Cud9qAr5I Don't do that to a non-steel frame (aluminum, carbon, titanium, etc). For those you might be able to squeeze the wheel in, but that can be a hassle, and or other issues .
@PghMtbRides
@PghMtbRides 4 жыл бұрын
@@RJTheBikeGuy would this be doable on an older steel frame that's brazed like a 56 JC Higgans vs one that's welded like a 90s+?
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 4 жыл бұрын
@@PghMtbRides Yes. This is at your own risk on any bike though. But I have never had issues.
@spygamer6750
@spygamer6750 2 жыл бұрын
What is the best or compatible Cassette hub for 10 speed 11-50T?
@plainlogic
@plainlogic 5 жыл бұрын
Super old video but it answered my question. Thanks
@Florijin
@Florijin 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video!
@davidveltum6730
@davidveltum6730 4 жыл бұрын
I am thinking of purchasing a 2020 Trek Marlin 5, it comes with a Shimano HG-200 12-32 7 Speed Cassette and a Formula DC27 alloy rear hub. Do you know if this is a setup I could convert to a 1x8 or 1x9 setup on the current hub? Thanks
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Dunno. Personally, I think it's a little silly to buy a brand new 2020 bike to change it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGa8nJ53hcSEjKs
@TheJam53ice
@TheJam53ice 4 жыл бұрын
My bike has a 7 speed freewheel, I'd like to do a 1x9 conversion, I know I'll need a new wheel to accept a 9spd cassette, my question is, what about the frame, would the dropouts need to be wider?
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6jbdoOIoJh_fMk
@TheJam53ice
@TheJam53ice 4 жыл бұрын
Oh damn thank you! Your videos are great, so easy to follow!
@TheJam53ice
@TheJam53ice 4 жыл бұрын
@@RJTheBikeGuy Thanks again for this, I followed your video and when I checked my frame, the dropout spacing is just over 130mm so I should be good to go with the conversion without having to modify the frame?
@jagerinz1204
@jagerinz1204 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I was thinking of switching to a 135mm 9-speed hub. Do not recommend it?
@Lil_eee
@Lil_eee 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making the video simple n good tips
@TheDrumFab
@TheDrumFab 7 жыл бұрын
Another 'hack' for 7 speed freehubs: you can install 8 9speed cogs on a 7sp freehub body. In order to do this you have to get rid of the rivets of the cassette and then pull one cog of. Do this with a 9sp chain, crankset and shifter where you lock one step.
@caerba1969
@caerba1969 3 жыл бұрын
thank you. this why now i am looking to update my wheels for an 8 speed cassette.
@WahyudiWidodo
@WahyudiWidodo 6 жыл бұрын
Great show
@tommyschulte2577
@tommyschulte2577 3 жыл бұрын
Right now I have a trek 3900. It has an 8 speed on the rear. I found a trek 3500 on ebay. The frame is just a different color. Thats the reason I wanted it. After a little more research I found that the 3500 came equipped with a 7 speed. As the 3900 came equipped with an 8 speed. My goal was just to swap all my parts from my 3900 to the 3500. My question is will the 8 speed rear wheel fit on the 3500? I dont have the 3500 yet. It's still in the mail. Thanks. Love the videos you make.
@Upgrade_Media
@Upgrade_Media 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, RJ bike guy, now i run a 11-36, 7 speed cassette, can I upgrade it to a 10 speed cassette 11-46? At my local bike shop the mecanic told me that i can use a 10 speed, but does it fit?
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 5 жыл бұрын
Did you follow this video?
@Upgrade_Media
@Upgrade_Media 5 жыл бұрын
@@RJTheBikeGuy so as long as it fits a 10 speed cassette it can have any amount of teeth, like the one from sunrace 11-46 teeth?
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 5 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't it?
@Upgrade_Media
@Upgrade_Media 5 жыл бұрын
@@RJTheBikeGuy The mechanic from my local shop said that it would not fit, so i was confused
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 5 жыл бұрын
The wheel doesn't care how many teeth the cassette has. Either it fits or doesn't. Maybe he meant the your derailleur can't handle a 46 tooth cassette. That has nothing to do with the wheel. But ask the mechanic for details of what they meant. Or figure it out. Or you are neglecting to tell me some vital piece of information. I am not going to play 20 questions.
@timothybradek3560
@timothybradek3560 7 жыл бұрын
Hi RJ, again thks for everything. I would like to tackle a 21 speed (upgrade is it?) using new or rebuild Shimano derailleurs, new 7 gear cassette and new 3-ring chainring. No time like the present to begin replacing badly worn parts to shift smoothly and ride safely. Your thoughts please.
@johngreene6783
@johngreene6783 5 жыл бұрын
Can you replace the freehub to allow for more gears or is it just better to go with a different complete rear hub?
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 5 жыл бұрын
Go with a different wheel/hub.
@johngreene6783
@johngreene6783 5 жыл бұрын
@@RJTheBikeGuy I had a feeling but thought I'd ask the master :-)
@bewimotos
@bewimotos 4 жыл бұрын
So what about fitting a 9 speed on a 8speed casset free hub? do we go with the 35mm data?
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Answered in the video.
@xGshikamaru
@xGshikamaru 8 жыл бұрын
Could you just take 9 cogs out of a 10 speed cassette and adjust the limit screws of the rear derailleur? That would be a way to upgrade a 7 speed cassette without a spacer
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 8 жыл бұрын
No. The cog spacing is different on various speed cogsets.
@xGshikamaru
@xGshikamaru 8 жыл бұрын
No I mean take a 10 speed shifter, 9 cogs out of a 10 speed cassette, and adjust limit screws so you can't shift to the non existent 10th speed
@jlmagandelcerro2415
@jlmagandelcerro2415 6 жыл бұрын
xGshikamaru good idea but removing just 1 cog probably won't be enough to maket the cassette those 5mm shorter. Maybe 2 and adding a spacer would work.
@thomaschuette6789
@thomaschuette6789 6 жыл бұрын
Yes you can! Explaination here : sheldonbrown.com/k7.html
@drumist101
@drumist101 5 жыл бұрын
@@thomaschuette6789 Thank you!
@AmateurGarageBandMan
@AmateurGarageBandMan 6 жыл бұрын
Hi RJ! Dude, thanks to you I’ve been able to do changes to & maintenance of my drivetrain thereby saving tons of money! Which has been great as my performance has improved. Now, onto my next change & question. My bike is a 1991 Trek 1200 which I love. It is a seven speed with the original shifters & I want to know about going to 8 cogs. Can the original index shifters be adjusted to 8 speeds? I just saw this video & haven’t yet done the measurements but I thought I would first ask about the shifters. I’ve already changed the chain, chainrings & have built my own cassette out of the original cassette & another one I bought on Amazon. Thanks RJ & please keep the videos coming!
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 6 жыл бұрын
The frame is spaced for 126mm for the rear wheel. An 8 speed rear wheel is spaced to 130mm. You can maybe squeeze the wheel in. Don't try cold setting the frame though.
@AmateurGarageBandMan
@AmateurGarageBandMan 6 жыл бұрын
RJ The Bike Guy Thanks for that, but what about the shifters? I just removed my front detailed & im going 1x now. I live in Florida, so there was no dilemma in making the change. Anyway, I don’t need the shifter for the chainring & wonder if I could use that in conjunction with an 8 speed cassette, if I make that change.
@jasonsamia
@jasonsamia Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info... what happens to your shifter? If I have a 7-speed shifter, can I remove 2 of the gears (and place them in the back as spacers) and still use my 7-speed gear? I just want to have more range (highest to lowest). I don't mind losing 2 of the middle gears in between the range. it will also save me from buying a 9-speed gears and derailleur :D thanks
@marcio7940
@marcio7940 6 жыл бұрын
2:01 é freehub para 8/9/10speed?
@pumelo1
@pumelo1 5 ай бұрын
On 7 speed hyperglide Shimano freehub you can "easy" add 8 or 9 cassette, but jsou must separate and use 8 from 9speed cassette or 9 from 10speed cassette with her narrower spacers!! Than use 9/10 chain. This is useable on road bicycle.
@jjthebikedude1234
@jjthebikedude1234 8 жыл бұрын
rj i got a problem on my 1987 trek 10 speed road bike the back rim is wabbley the cones onder the freewheel need to be tightend up an yes its easy i now how to do it but i cant find an old freewheel remover tool that has the 2 splitsin in it.
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 8 жыл бұрын
Like this? www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B001472M4K/ref=nosim/youtube25-20
@Rudiudiii
@Rudiudiii 3 жыл бұрын
Off topic are the old (retro) halo combat wheels good I have heard there heavy and sturdy
@laverdadtriunfa
@laverdadtriunfa Жыл бұрын
Yes that is good but i learn that by changing the hub you can still use the same rim and at lower cost can be upgraded to higher than 7 speed. 😊 also you need a new chain, because the thickness and may need a new crankset or change the rings on it, some 7 speed crankset may work but the way they build the bikes today is to make you buy everything. I know all of these because I'm going through this process myself. 😅😅. Also you need a longer axel and may need to wide the back of the frame. I think i cover everything.
@brianmel92
@brianmel92 7 жыл бұрын
Hi RJ! I've bought a tiagra grupset , which uses a 2x10 speed system. I want to re-use a 36h wheel, but I need to change the hub from a freewheel hub to a cassette hub. The only hub I've found is a 8 9s FH-2400 claris hub. I been reading in internet about the compatibility, and some say that you need a 1mm spacer and some no say that. whats your opinion about ?
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 7 жыл бұрын
If the freehub is a little too wide, add spacer. Not a problem. The problem is if the freehub is not wide enough. Watch the video again.
@friendlylavenders
@friendlylavenders 3 жыл бұрын
Hi looking @ bikes, is a cassette of eight with 7 gears, is that good?
@dodgeboy3406
@dodgeboy3406 6 жыл бұрын
Upgraded my 7speed Shimano cassette and indexed shifting system to a Sram 9 speed indexed system. All is well except when I back spin in the 2 largest cassette rings/lowest gears, the chain derails. Up and down shifts are perfect. Back spin in any other rings perfect. Any ideas??? TIA
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 6 жыл бұрын
I can't really tel you what is happening without looking at it.
@th_js
@th_js 5 жыл бұрын
That is normal.
@sheeeeesh9173
@sheeeeesh9173 3 жыл бұрын
I have novatec hub and it says for 8,9,10 speed cassette. But i want to upgrade my drivetrain into 11speed. Do you think my stock hub can accomodate 11speed??
@alexandermichev4116
@alexandermichev4116 8 жыл бұрын
Hi RJ, and thank u for the new video. I've just a question concerning rear hubs: I currently use a wheelset with shimano ultegra 6500 hubs (wich are part of my 6500 9 speed groupset). Do you think I 'll have enough room to put on them a 10 speed cassette on the rear hub and upgrade to 6700? Thanks
@RJTheBikeGuy
@RJTheBikeGuy 8 жыл бұрын
You should have no problem.
@colinlee1714
@colinlee1714 6 жыл бұрын
I have an 3*8 system on my bike and I want to change it to a 1*10. Do I have to replace the hub or can I just by a 10 speed cassette?
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