CAN ISLAM SAFELY COEXIST WITH OTHERS? Matt Dillahunty & Douglas Murray

[@Pangburn]

ISLAM is the problem in ISRAEL kzbin.info/www/bejne/gau9oIubbpqAracsi=F4mE23ZLDhz_JbJL

[@thomasprogli3372]

Islam is a religion that does not believe in coexistence. It always wants to subjugate. That is how the last prophet lived and preached and there is no moving on from that.

[@taobot8]

Faith is the problem in Israel. It's what allows one group of people to see another group of people as other and that their god is with only them.

[@thomasprogli3372]

@@taobot8 Why do you believe that Islam is not the problem if we all know that the worship a person who they themselves claim to have started over eighty wars, tortured his enemies, enslaved his enemies and their women, robbed his enemies ... all this without provocation (it is cleary written so in their quaran and hadiths). They all strive to be like him. Where do Jews have a similar role model?

[@taobot8]

@@thomasprogli3372 if you read my comment again, you'll see that I'm not saying that Islam is not a problem. Instead, I'm recognizing that faith, the epistemology used to justify all Abrahamic religion, is the problem. In reference to your question about role models provided to the Jews by their deity, here are a few examples. The conquest of Canaan: In the book of Joshua, God commanded the Israelites to conquer the land of Canaan, which involved battles against the Canaanite tribes living there. The Amalekites: In the book of Exodus, there is a story where God instructs the Israelites to wage war against the Amalekites. Various conflicts with neighboring nations: Throughout the Old Testament, there are accounts of conflicts and battles between the Israelites and neighboring tribes and nations, often with God's guidance or approval. Hope this provides clarity on my position.

[@thomasprogli3372]

@@taobot8 I assumed EXACTLY what you were refering to and you have even now confirmed my assumption. All your examples are false comparisons and you know it. These quotes are documents of assumend jewish history and are not what it means to be a Jew. Mohammad is the absolute essence of what a Moslem MUST be. He is perfect. Jews actually do not have a role model like the Christians and the Moslems do.

[@devinmillican2873]

Islam has a hard time just coexisting with themselves.

[@teastrainer3604]

In the West we have the right to not believe, and to stop believing. Islam reacts violently toward this. No compromise is possible there.

[@JonnyBeoulve]

@@teastrainer3604 Islam was started by a warlord with a clear objective of conquest through any means necessary. It's quite sad how people don't understand this.

[@Conn30Mtenor]

@@teastrainer3604 indeed. When they demand that you live by their rules no compromise is possible.

[@mizolafoufounna]

True! Same with other religions. We don't need religions anymore.

[@perkyporkpie]

Beautifully put and sadly 100 percent correct

[@GeorgeSmiley77]

Another thing that makes Islam a threat to local cultures is that Islam is not just a religion, it is also a complete political & legal system, all in one. This means that Muslims are much more politically aware and active. When they vote, they tend to vote as a block, and the block doesn't have to be very big - if it's unanimous, they win the vote by being a large enough "swing" block that they can't be outvoted by a bunch of non-Muslim people who as a rule do not agree with each other on very much at all.

[@davidparry5310]

Trite, simplistic balderdash!

[@presterjohn9624]

Not true. Islam is just-another-religion. Go to a majority Muslim country and find out. Wherever Muslims live where there are are free elections, you'll see Muslims neither vote at a higher rate than the general population not do they vote as a block. Educate yourself or you'll continue to sound like a twat.

[@sumatra_7174]

Traditional hadith islam is political, there is no system in quran. You can very well be muslim and democratic. More and more muslims are at least sceptical about orthodox islam. Don't paint them as brainless monsters and don't generalize. That'sa very heterogenic group and they are thinking humans too. This is so hostile

[@GeorgeSmiley77]

@@sumatra_7174 I appreciate your view, but I'm talking about what happens when there's a large influx of Muslims into a region. It's not just Muslims either, ultra-orthodox Jews are known to do the same, eg. NYC. And... hostile? No, realistic. I've seen it happen in my home country of England, eg. Luton

[@k.k.9011]

Good point! Fundamentals Christians do not vote as a block.😂😂😂😂😂

[@petmensan]

Can Islam coexist with tall buildings?

[@drooten]

LOL. Probably not.

[@Tehownilator]

This is funny on so many levels.

[@simonrae3048]

​@@TehownilatorAnd ditto your comment. But can the thread continue.,....?

[@nellyfrittata8319]

Very funny comment, but isn't the tallest building in the world in Saudi Arabia? *edit: it's in the United Arab Emirates

[@smoker420la]

Ask Bush. He ok'd it

[@RogueBrit]

Can islam co exist with the gay community without making them take flying lessons? . Can someone safely leave islam without harassment? Can islam follow the laws of the land without forming their own courts.... I fear not

[@Big_DT]

Nailed it.

[@drstrangelove4998]

Anyone with any knowledge of the Qur-an or Hadiths, the answer is obvious.

[@Irishtradchannel]

Can Islam even coexist with itself? No.

[@maryevans7855]

One of the unforeseen consequences of this war was that the usually hidden essence of Islam was revealed and a rather frightening picture emerged.

[@MelissaR784]

It did for centuries during the 4 caliphate that spread Islam throughout Europe and Africa.

[@Anniegrace3]

NO THAT IS NOT their aim.

[@shredx81]

⁠​⁠@@MelissaR784it’s interesting. I’m not sure people are aware that Islam came into being in the 7th century and then began a bloody religious conquest stretching from Spain to India. People disingenuously call it the religion of peace when it’s actually an instrument of war and its ultimate objective is dominion.

[@tulpas93]

Sounds just like Christianity!

[@netsurfer3655]

I haven't yet watched this but I'm about to. But to reword the headline, "Can Islam Safely...?" I'd ask, can misogyny, homophobia, murder of apostates, and the rest of it safely coexist? Islam is entirely about this sort of thing. I can't think of one thing which is uniquely good about Islam.

[@RichardEhlinger]

Devotion. The devotion is good. They're so devoted to their idea that they are willing to defend it to death. That's what's making it bloom in Europe and the world in general. Walk around London with a JESUS IS GAY shirt abd nothing will happen to you. Do the same thing with Muhammad and you won't make it alive by the end of the street.

[@davidparry5310]

Bigoted, hysterical horseshit!

[@nathanjora7627]

Thing is that everything you mentioned can pretty much be found in the other two Abrahamic religions, though perhaps not as overtly in the case of killing apostates in Christianity. So we already know that it’s possible for a religion with horrendous texts to have followers tame enough that they can cohabit with ideas contrary to their religion. So it’s not as simple as saying “can the bad ideas of Islam pushed to their extreme coexist with a liberal society”, because the answer is no but it’s also no for Christianity, Judaism, and probably all sorts of other religions.

[@zz3OPEN]

​@@nathanjora7627 I don't know how someone can try draw that comparison after years and years of Islamic terror attacks and terrorist organisations like ISIS/ISWAP/Abu Sayyaf, HTS, Al-Nusra, Hezbollah, Hamas, Al-Qaeda, Taliban etc.. Yes, of course there are Christians, Catholics, Jews etc who hold backwards opinions, the difference is that they don't massacre people based on these opinions. Female genital mutilation and the oppression of women, executing homosexuals, honour killings, the thousands of *English* girls who have been groomed and raped in the UK alone by Pakistani muslim gangs, the list goes on. So, where is the similarity exactly? Islam is a religion of conquest, that is the fundamental difference.

[@zz3OPEN]

​@@nathanjora7627Oh, and look at polling data of muslims and how many of them hold extremely concerning, backwards views toward jews etc, as well as their sympathetic views toward terror attacks being justified. People love the "it's just a minority" line, but they tend to forget that a minority of 1B+ people is a fucking lot of people..

[@proudatheist2042]

Here's a reminder that Sir Salman Rushdie was stabbed in stage in New York in 2022 by a man who wasn't even born when Ayatollah Khomeini decreed the fatwa against Salman. I have read Salman's book "Joseph Anton" which is mostly about his time spent in protective custody after the fatwa in Europe and the United States. Europe and the United States didn't have as many Nuslims then as they do now. So, no. Islam is not compatible with a half way, half way civil civilization. Islam is a cult that is all too willing to kill people for writing fiction stories, drswing pictures, and/or leaving Islam.

[@samuelgoldring9691]

Your comment is important please share it on other websites ( but please correct the typos they might unfairly turn readers off)

[@michaelortiz1561]

It's a literal death cult that worships the word of a mental ill pdf file murderous warlord where a ridiculously large amount of the adherents to have never even read their own religious texts

[@way2tehdawn]

If it’s a Cult, who is the leader?

[@jobirbatti6713]

That's non other reason but the teachings of Islam is the problem.

[@coolhand1966]

@@way2tehdawn a peado

[@factsdontcareaboutyourfeel7204]

No, it can't. That has been proven on multiple occasions

[@ZeuzBluez]

Can totalitarianism cohabit with democracy?

[@maryevans7855]

One of the unforeseen consequences of this war was that the usually hidden essence of Islam was revealed and a rather frightening picture emerged.

[@phatagorva6076]

Quote from my coworker (Christian who grew up in Syria). You should not let any muslims to enter to the Europe. He also told me stories from Syria: What muslims did to christians etc. Absolutely horrible things, something i don't want to share here.

[@jackylaibach2351]

Did he tell you what you suppose to do with Europian muslims as Bosnians and Albanians? Maybe declare that they are not Europeans and ethnically cleanse them out of Europe all together?

[@phatagorva6076]

@@jackylaibach2351 No, he didn't say anything about them. He was only concerned about mass immigration from middle east. Btw, he cried when he told me these stories. Those things happened to him about 30 years ago and he was still so traumatized.

[@jackylaibach2351]

@@phatagorva6076 well, you should asked him about that considering that his traumatic experience made him such a expert on muslims. Btw am Bosnian ex Muslim traumatized by the Christian ethnic cleansing and genocide so does it also make me expect on Christian issues in general?

[@phatagorva6076]

@@jackylaibach2351 There were no wars during his time in Syria. Just regular muslim behavior against minority groups. I quess he was right, since muslims crime rate in Europe is a lot above average. Daily riots in France and Sweden all caused by muslims. Or other possibility: It's not caused by religion, it's caused by culture. Either way, it's not good for Europe.

[@jackylaibach2351]

@@phatagorva6076 so first, you think that genocide that had happened in Bosnia is acceptable because it happened during the war? Second, "Muslim average crime rate???!!!" needs citation and serious one? Third, have you ever seriously think about possibility that riots are there not because of religion or culture but because poor conditions of living? Are the Muslims only people who have been rioting in Europ? Does every riot that happen in Europe happens because religion and culture or as we can see from the history most of them happened because of bad socio-economical reasons? You have shown extraordinary flawed reasoning which is, I guess caused by bigotry so I think any other discussion is pointless.

[@paulmorgancollings7833]

Has Islam EVER co existed peacefully with other religions? Seriously?

[@RandomNooby]

Religions rarely co-exist peacefully with themselves...

[@maryevans7855]

One of the unforeseen consequences of this war was that the usually hidden essence of Islam was revealed and a rather frightening picture emerged.

[@RandomNooby]

@@maryevans7855 Christopher hitchens was saying it for the past 12 years

[@randomhumanoidblob4506]

Within two generations it couldn't even live with itself...

[@Jukilady]

Not even their own, the Sunnis hate the others.

[@joycegifford8826]

Islam is very patient, they are wolves. They simply wait for their prey to come to them…

[@kh-fk3ko]

funny! cause that is what native Americans said about your ancestors.

[@sebastianjacobsen727]

Yeah and look how that went

[@joycegifford8826]

@@kh-fk3ko How utterly ignorant of you. My ancestry includes Indigenous DNA. Keep in mind that Indigenous DNA has ties to Siberia, France, Japan and Spain. Thank you for showing your ignorance to the world and it is recorded in perpetuity.

[@jaisriram295]

Actually you are right and wrong at the same time...studying Mohammed will make you realise how clever he was and how his tactic if the bait and switch is still being used in modern times by his followers

[@skagenpige88]

@@jaisriram295 I would not call them smart...just becouse you found some way to excuse killing people dont make you smart.....at least not in the long run.

[@Metz-cx9zi]

Douglas Murray is the man. Me, being a right leaning atheist, he is a great person to listen too in the overwhelming left leaning atheist movement.

[@mi__ran]

Yep, second this.

[@HonestAnalyst]

Douglas Murray is a coward, he ran away from debating Mehdi Hasan at Oxford University.

[@proudatheist2042]

I am an Atheist, too. I have listened to 3 of Douglas's books on Audible. I have read his work on IG and a number of his articles online. Sadly, too many of our fellow Atheists have lost their ability to see the evidence in front of them on a number of issues. A number of them worship the new age cult religion: The Trans ideology.

[@LordEsel88]

Same here.

[@morticiag]

Look up the Dangers of Milit'ant ATHEISM, and then we'll Talk

[@gertrudewest4535]

In the last few days, I have grown to appreciate Murray.

[@keny53]

Let the hate flow through you

[@zacakafroztee]

​@@keny53Mr. Murray is not hateful, he just tells the truth.

[@amarissimus29]

If the last few weeks haven't opened eyes to the unambiguous (for once) and unpleasant truths that he's been talking about vis-a-vis islam, they'll likely be closed forever.

[@christopherharry2139]

@@keny53try having an independent thought sometime, it’d be good for you

[@keny53]

@@christopherharry2139 it's sarcasm

[@thomasjefferson6]

The proper question is "Can Others Safely Coexist with Islam?" The answer, of course, is NO.

[@leedobson]

No, because the ultimate goal is ALWAYS takeover

[@liusaw]

they can't even coexist with themselves lol. saudi bombing yemen, iraq attacked iran, afgah alloha snackbars into Pakistan. Back in 1920s until 1930s they sold land to jews ppl, when jews ppl ran from the guy with weird mustache, started to settle in the lands they bought. those muzlimz started to cry "iTs NoT fAiR!!!" with so many jews we can't oppressed them anymore. This led to their attacks on Israel and get stomped, could have been different. Karma at its finest lol.

[@benb6527]

I really want more revealed preferences stuff. Do they really believe “smile until the minute I can stab you in the back” - as a lifestyle???

[@fazbell]

It's very surprising that anyone could ask this question in light of the behavior of Islamists in the last fifty years. Dangerous people and ideologies should be isolated and contained.

[@greenhammer3263]

They didnt give us wars such as Vietnam

[@cliomuse1206]

@@greenhammer3263if they had the discipline and financial resources of the West, they’d give us a war that will make Vietnam look like a fight in a local bar.

[@sanniepstein4835]

​@@greenhammer3263are you aware of the genocide of African Christians? Did you notice yazidi teens being immolated? Invasion, intimidation, rape and mass murder in Europe?

[@saucyrossy3698]

Really? Have you never met a liberal? They think men can menstruate for christ sake. Empirical, provable data and patterns of behavior are meaningless to them. Why should it be any different here? I dont mean to be critical because I understand why you ask this question, but I really do think it is time that moderates and conservatives in the west start to acknowledge this truth: there is simply no reasoning with these people on the left. Muslims do allllll the things discussed here and more and its always "youre a bigot!!!!" or "you colonizer!!". And older, more classical liberal democrats need to acknowledge that the ground has shifted under their feet and they are almost certainly right of center now.

[@saucyrossy3698]

@@greenhammer3263 you mean to fight communism? the force that killed nearly 3x more people than the nazis? Oh by the way the vietnamese communists murdered 7 million people when the US left. You 'war is never okay' people are basically children. Go take a nap. The adults are talking.

[@Pangburn]

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[@morticiag]

Atheists are just another form of Pagans.

[@jacklondon295]

Political Islam is theocratic fascism.

[@patman142]

We already have an example in the US. Hamtramck, Michigan now has a Muslim dominated Council and they voted to ban pride flags around the town. While i don't necessarily disagree with this, it is a slippery slope when they become a majority

[@Kafirman666]

I sm not gay but on what base they banned pride flags?! Religion should never influence law making and that ban should be illegal and against the constitution.

[@patman142]

@Kafirman666 but that's the whole point of the video, Islam is not compatible with Western values

[@countbooga6997]

​@@Kafirman666dude, look into their religion. Its not just a religion, its a political ideology and a system of law first and foremost and its main goal is world domination through "jihad" (when people say jihad is a fringe extremist interpretation of islam, i promise.you its not. Its a core pillar of islam) and the execution of all nonbelievers, gays, anyone who criticize muhammad or islam, adulterers, people who steal (even a cheeseburger if theyre starving is a quick way yo get your hands chopped off if not beheaded), and apostates. Baiscally anyone who doesnt follow islam and do everything the sharia law commands is ripe to get beheaded or blown up. If a woman reports rape to the police in islam, she gets beheaded herself or thrown in prison for years unless she has 4 male witnesses or 8 female witnesses for the charge of adultery. Its not a joke, islam isnt friendly and literally 90% of the "religion" is using warfare and slabery to force people to convert to islam, its legal and commanded to enslave non muslim women, sexually and for labor, long with any children of nonbelievers. Thats all in their "holy" quran along with pedophilia being legal with no age limit. It is incompatible with the west. Look up how much the rape rates skyrocketed in europe after taking in those refugees since their religion is totally fine with and encourages enslaving and raping non muslims.

[@srrysdrthu6716]

@@Kafirman666 their holy book of course

[@lminterests5590]

I just looked for details on the flag. The city did not ban the flag. It just won't be flown on civic, government poles. Don't have a problem with that. About time to treat the LGBT... as equals.

[@ErinWilke]

This was a beautiful conversation

[@raulcheva]

The Qurxn and Islxm is by definition un-upgradable. Muhxmmad was by definition the perfect human example and almost 100 verses command that Muslims have to imitate his actions and sayings to avoid hell. Also his migration to Medinah, becoming a political and military leader, building a mosque(wich works more like a city hall, than only a religious temple) was so important, that islxmic calendar "starts" with that very event(Anno Hijra). All non believers of islxm are defined as Kafirs/Kufr, wich is a very negative concept(willing concealer of the revealed truth). This word is present more than 500 times in the Qurxn and verses about Kafir management covers up to 64% of the Qurxn and up to 51 % of isxmic primary doctrine(Qxran, Sira, Hadith). Political Islxm grows worldwide thanks to migration, birth, demographic saturation, cultural isolation, anti-apostasy death threats, Halal food and industries taxes and mandated contributions to propagate islxm (as a religion, which is a incomplete understanding of the full term) in non muslxm countries. The rule of law of the land is not to be respected, as it's a human construction, not divine. Source: www.cspii.org

[@anthonybartlett6924]

iv'e always had a problem with an illiterate, slave trading, mass murdering nonce as a perfect example of a human being.

[@johnschuh8616]

The Quran does not say this about Mohammed. . Islam does, and by Islam I mean a religion whose basic teachings abiout their prophet were not written down until more than a hundred years later. The odd thing is that people who accept the tradition story of Mohammed do not accept the traditional story of Mohammed as history reject the story of Moses. This because we have so much more knowledge about the times and place in which he appeared then about the time and place in which Moses appeared. But about the historic Mohammed we know hardly anything.

[@nathanjora7627]

You’re broadly speaking correct but you’re underestimating humans’ ability to reinterpret their texts to make them say the opposite of what they’re actually saying. Just look at Christians and Jews, not respecting much if any of the laws they’re supposed to respect in spite of their clarity. And the same is already true of many westernized Muslims who don’t take their religion a lot more seriously than Christians do, or who reinterpreted their texts favourably in relation to western principles so as to not have the feeling that they have to choose between modern western ideals and Bronze Age Middle Eastern ideals.

[@johnschuh8616]

@@nathanjora7627 “Bronze age”? Well, the legacy of ancient Greece is pretty much from that same time. and philosophic materialism, the basis of naturalism, is a a restatement of one Greek school or another. Hobbes learned Greek in his old age, so he could get a fresh look at things. As for Christian reinterpretation, in large part it is a a looking back to how men Augustine and Origen looks at Scripture, men who were also steeped in classical culture. Absent of course, the Reformers almost koranic spin on the text as part of their opposition to papal authority.

[@nathanjora7627]

@@johnschuh8616 « the legacy of Ancient Greece is pretty much from that same time » Yes, that’s why we had generations of thinkers that had to update greek thinking in order to refine and improve it, otherwise we’d still be in agreement with Plato and Aristotle that slaves are necessary. I never said that Bronze Age people had nothing to teach us in terms of thinking or morality, just that trying to follow a rule of law and morality that hasn’t caught up with all the innovation we did in the last 2000 years is silly. That’d be like trying to follow an engineering textbook from the ancient Roman Empire ; did they do good stuff ? Yeah. Should we disregard all the stuff they got wrong or didn’t know about because of the time period they lived in ? No. « As for Christian reinterpretation, in large part is it a a looking back to how men Augustine and Origen looks at Scripture, men who were also steeped in classical culture » You’re sorely mistaken if you think that the average Christian or even the average Christian cleric is going to Augustine to reinterpret his scripture, they don’t need to at all, they’re more than happy to listen to modern apologists doing modern apologetics in order to wiggle out of having to for example admit that the Bible accepts and legalizes slavery.

[@Raelven]

I struck up an on line conversation with a 22 year old Muslim man in N Africa. One of my questions to him was: "In the west there is a perception that Muslims want to convert everyone to Islam." His reply: That is not incorrect.

[@davidwarren2678]

The Quran is clear in its directive to convert the unbelievers to Islam. Allah is the greatest of deceivers as the Quran states. This 22yo is simply doing what the Quran instructs. Deceive your enemies. 80% of muslims have no idea what is in the Quran. They simply follow. It's the 20% that understand the quran and live by it that are dangerous. The true interpretation of the Quran and Haddiths is ISIS, Hamas and Taliban. I encourage you to look at Robert Spencer from Jihadwatch on KZbin.

[@justg3495]

I share Douglas’ take on Christianity and how Western atheists should navigate their interactions with religion . One can acknowledge that a god most likely does not exist yet still appreciate how aspects of religion are the essential as building blocks in the nature ,and direction, of societies and how Western atheism can have the negative consequence of bringing into question structural fabric on which the West is built. Western society is basically eating itself and I believe that is very dangerous given the options likely to fill that vacuum. I for one would not like to live under the rule of the ayatollah, or be poisoned with a radioactive pellet because I express opposition to my nations sitting president .🤷‍♂️

[@thebarnie-y2i]

⚠️ Regarding Islam, I’d like to share something important that I’ve learned. It’s taken me years to finally realize this......I think I’ve resisted coming to this conclusion - It was a big pill to swallow. Islam is not evil due to direct manipulation and control by rogue terrorist groups and extremists - It’s core doctrine is evil in and of itself. There are many many people in the world who call themselves Muslims. I’ve met some over the years - Many of them have kind souls. You could say they are the ‘Moderates’. There may be Moderate Muslims, unfortunately there is no such thing as Moderate Islam. I’ve realized that there is no definitive line in the sand within Islam that a Moderate Muslim can lean against that will prevent them from being forced to become a ‘true Muslim’ (Shariah-adherent). The Moderates have no logical or doctrine-based leg to stand on. They have no argument that supersedes what the Islamic scholars, and the core doctrine demand. It doesn’t matter what your Muslim neighbor interprets Islam to be. A Muslim doesn’t make Islam, rather Islam makes the Muslim. Someone not supporting the violent oppressive parts of Islam doesn’t mean they’re following a different version; it simply means they’re not adherent to what Islam requires. For all those who say Islam can be interpreted in a peaceful and virtuous manner, there’s one question I have for them - Where is this peaceful ‘version’ taught? Where is it officially codified? Where can I learn about it from an authorized source? A shocker for me was that Islam is not just religion. As stated in the textbook ‘What Islam Is All About’, which is widely used throughout Islamic schools in the US, Islam is a complete way of life: Religious, Legal, Political, Social, Military, and Economic. If it was religion only, I wouldn’t care what it teaches - To each their own. But when a political and legal system starts determining what happens to the lives of outsiders (non-Muslims), that’s where I have a problem. There are only 2 examples in all of world history that have been able to bounce back after being conquered by Islam: Spain and one other that I can’t recall. All others subjected to it have eventually fallen to be ruled over by Islam. Individual Muslims may be wonderful and non-threatening. But history speaks for itself when it comes to the overall long term effect when large groups of Muslims populate a society - Look at the past 1400 years. I realize this may seem harsh, but it’s just the truth. My motivation isn’t to spread hate, but rather to help wake people up to the reality of all this. I’m not a Muslim. I don’t speak Arabic. I haven’t been to Mecca. Everything I’ve mentioned above comes from the same things found in authoritative Islamic texts and what’s taught in Islamic schools throughout the US and all over the planet. You’re all free to find out for yourself.

[@bryck7853]

all the abrahmic gods are evil

[@whitegoose2017]

There is no peaceful interpretation of Islam. Mohammed according to the Muslims was the perfect man and he was not a peaceful man. Fact of the matter is if you follow the example of the prophet to your utmost ability you will end up with ISIS. No amount of Taqiyya will change that fact. It's just how the religion is built.

[@davidwarren2678]

You have nailed it. I interact with muslims and ex muslims frequently. It is an amazing experience when you see a muslim come to Christ. They come with devout reverence for Jesus. You can see the veil of ignorance lifted from them. Unfortunately, to be an ex Muslim does come with its dangers. Cut off from family. And in some circumstances, potential death at the hands of your family. The Western World is very ignorant of Islam.

[@1DaTJo]

Yes Islam divides the earth into dar al Islam (the world of submission) and dar al harb (the world of the sword, meaning “yet to be conquered”). A horrible religion dreamed up by a war mongering pe d o.

[@Thenoobestgirl]

​@@davidwarren2678 sounds like cult behavior from the ones still in it to me

[@laviajera4269]

Brilliant discussion between two wonderful intellects who I don’t always agree with, but who provide excellent reasoning and rationalism to their positions on everything. Love it. ❤

[@bryanutility9609]

Too bad these types never engage with anyone to their right beyond “secular humanism”. Maybe their world view is part of the problem.

[@Red22762]

There is only one intellect on that stage and that's Douglas Murray.

[@przemek2573]

@@Red22762lol, Murray would hit you in the head for saying that.

[@Red22762]

I doubt it because it is true and Murray respects the truth.@@przemek2573

[@Arianne3011]

The obvious answer is a Big NO!

[@Punk1984Rock]

We've just got the answer again in the last few days.

[@geejaybee]

I think this weekend answered this question conclusively.

[@jasminealixandranorth]

“The Strange Death of Europe” by Douglas Murray

[@satoshinakamoto3342]

Short answer.. No. Long answer .. No

[@gsr4535]

When you are allowed multiple "wives" (cousins really), you can pro-create profusely and re-population any land foolish enough to invite you in. Nice work if you can get it.

[@aesthete8033]

That's how we got Londonistan.

[@AB-fr9rh]

the book by that title is super informative @@aesthete8033

[@drstrangelove4998]

And get paid for it through that country’s benefit system, madness.

[@RandomNooby]

lol

[@sanniepstein4835]

Muslims were boasting about population jihad years ago. They've never hidden their genocidal goals, the West refused to face facts.

[@haimshenkar6491]

In 1948, there were 150 thousand Arabs in Israel; today there are 2.6 million. They are doctors, lawyers, businessmen, judges of the High Court, members of parliament, generals in the Israeli army. In Iraq in 1948 there were 320 thousand Jews today - 0, In Libya in 1948 there were 186 thousand Jews today -0, In Lebanon there were 75 thousand Jews today -0, in Morocco there were 460 thousand today -200-300 people. Everyone was running away from terrible murders, robberies and pogroms. They were expelled on pain of death and all their property was taken away. We can continue further So who is doing ethnic cleansing????????

[@DeenMohAly]

Israel

[@MaxPayne-fi1mz]

Does history start in 1948?

[@BearPawSwipe]

Watching Matt debase himself at the altar of wokism is hysterical to me. I would say the mighty have fallen but he was never the thought leader he thinks he is.

[@VulcanLogic]

Listening to racist shitstains complain about "woke" is getting tiresome.

[@catross3713]

Oh I miss Christopher Hitchens

[@lizzieh5284]

So do I. We need him more than ever.

[@proudatheist2042]

​@@lizzieh5284I get your point. Sadly, Christopher Hitchens has been dead for over a decade now. All we can do is live by his example to read, listen, care, and use evidence to not back down when needed in debates against cultish ideologues as best as we can.

[@morticiag]

He misses you too. 😂😂 I hope he's not Suffering too much where he currently resides .... 😅

[@catross3713]

@@morticiag real christ like thing to say. He who is without sin cast the first stone. I believe that is what your god said, that message you seem unwilling to live by.

[@morticiag]

@@catross3713 It's FUNNY how Atheists have No Moral Compass of their own so they often feel the Need to quote Jesus Christ for a sense of Morality? 😅. The 'he who is without sin' quote you are quoting is not applicable within the Context here . Whilst Christopher Hitchens WAS, Indeed a Sinner, like ALL of us Are, he remained an UNREPENTANT SINNER until his Last and Dying Breathe. Hitchens DENIED YHWH and he DENIED Christ until his last breathe. The Bible makes it VERY CLEAR that such Souls will NOT be SAVED. So, my Assertion that your Hero/False Messiah , Hitchens, is currently in HELL is a correct one. Now, WHY do you Choose DEAD MEN who are full of Sin, devia'nces and Corruption to be your Messiah, When you ALREADY HAVE a MESSIAH in JESUS CHRIST, who was willing to DIE for you and from Whom you are currently Quoting in order to chas'tise Me?

[@walterwoodland9218]

It's good that Douglass was here to make this conversation at least a bit interesting with occasional novel insight and correctives.

[@charli-n-me]

@walterwoodland Is this comment really needed?

[@BennyHolden-ls7sj]

Most muslims sided with the NAZI regime during WWII in the middle east, but some muslims did fight on the side of the allies.

[@geeboom]

So true. Mat D. are very uninteresting people. I stopped watching their stuff once they started the pronouns woke nonsense. Now Douglas on the other hand is an alpha ninja when it comes to identitarian wokery. It was a relief to see that it seems Mat D have abandoned this nonsense of theirs. At least for this show they have. Very sensible of them. I had a chuckle hearing their unintended admission that a woman is a person with a uterus. That must have slipped out purely by accident. They (Mat) noticed that themselves. Matt spoke out what they really believe in their head.

[@linguo76]

Short answer: No. Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooo.

[@WisdomSeekingWriter]

This is my first experience hearing Matt Dillahunty and the hook was Douglas Murray. I am deeply grateful for his voice and consider him a TRULY caring human being seeking Truth. I really enjoyed this thoughtful and thought-provoking conversation. As a Christ Follower, raised in the Catholic faith, I was taught that first and of utmost importance was respect for other human beings, regardless of color or creed, land of birth or socio-economic status. Created by one God, imbued with unique talents, gifts and potential and for special purpose in the time and place in which we came to be, we have much to offer our world. Whether we recognize the meaningfulness of our life is dependent on several factors, free-will ultimately being of biggest consequence. One element that I don't often hear in the discussion of Christian belief, which I find to be essential to the discussion, is the claim in the Scriptures which tells us that "faith is a gift". Simplistic on its face, that claim is much more complex than it appears. With gift-giving there is the "giver", but there is also the "receiver" who chooses whether or not to receive what is being offered. I have heard it said, "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who do not, no proof is possible."

[@EnglishTMTB]

Matt's mellowed significantly if this showing is representative. Indeed, I almost skipped this on the basis that he was on it and he'd become insufferably "woke" (in the OTT far left sense) long before it was cool, to the point it was almost religious... and I watched him plenty before he went down that particular rabbit hole. Perhaps his views have matured and been moderated... Perhaps it's time to give him another go.

[@dtybur10]

Douglas Murray is a treasure. Nobody is infallible but I have read his books and listen to him have these debates, and he seems very much as objective, and consistent as anyone opining on current events that i have seen. Just an opinion, as subjective as any other.

[@robynmoase2004]

To Douglas Murray. I have seen you go from telling the unabashed truth to being careful what you say. STOP BEING CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY. What you have always been a standout for is telling the UNVARNISHED TRUTH. Particularly about ISLAM. Al the best Douglas. You are a precious truth teller.

[@pacificrailproductions5281]

Wow! Two weeks later…we got our answer!!

[@23498cna]

I just watched the debate between Matt Dillahunty and the Muslim Daniel Hiqiqatchu. People need to really see the face of Islam. Go check it out.

[@thelot9880]

Lmao where baldie got triggered and admitted he is a literal cuck and "trans" woman are women😂

[@antihebrew]

You can see the face of Islam in that still from 9/11.

[@nellyfrittata8319]

Daniel is on KZbin as "the Muslim skeptic" you can see the absolute brainrot and fundamentalist insanity in his comment section and posts. It's hard to believe that he's a real person, and it's absolutely discouraging to see how many people subscribe to his point of view. Once you've seen it, Islamophobia becomes the only rational position to take.

[@23498cna]

@@nellyfrittata8319 well said! "Islamophobia" what a joke! There are millions that think like him. It is madness!

[@Yuhanna8.23]

Even though they rape your children, they'll keep cheering saying that your children did not covering their body properly. Of course in the debate they cheer as if Islam win.

[@doinitforthestreets]

Thumbs down for a clickbait title that doesn't accurately represent the content. It's a fine conversation but it's definitely not centered on a discussion of Islam.

[@pepitolozano]

Beautiful, well educated dialogue between gentlemen, Thank you.

[@TheMrCougarful]

Is Islam compatible with age of consent laws?

[@mervstone17]

I’m an Ex Orthodox Jew.. living in USA for the last 10 years after a move from UK , I took the opportunity to ditch all remnants of organized religion .. I had been a cultural Jew since my teens and involved in a synagogue to a senior role for social reasons and did celebrate the high holy days for similar reasons and cultural identity.. Divorced twice and now living alone, life can be very lonely especially in the USA with the current focus on religious (mainly Christianity variants ) to be belonging to society . however internally I know I’m not being a hypocrite and I’m in awe of humanities position in the universe and lucky to be able to have some understanding of all the wonders of nature and the physical world that does exist ,

[@rationalist8805]

I've read many books on WWII and never understood the historic and current drive of antisemitism. Always seemed to me the Jewish people were resourceful, creative, and quite funny. As an atheist I don't really understand their religious side, but most of them don't take their religion seriously either.

[@SavingNational]

@@rationalist8805what’s your definition of antisemitism?

[@narendra62]

To be fair. You seem to have lived quite a bit already. If it was so great you wouldn't have left it. Being lonely is all about how you feel about yourself. You're never alone if you are friends with yourself.

[@boliussa]

Who cares who you are

[@jackiechilds8047]

Jew bot. Your religion has no judgment. Larry Flint. Weinstein. Epstein. Weird how none of the worlds pervs are gentile.

[@bodricthered]

Islam has prescriptions in the holy book, supposedly from god, to fight the unbeliever, to institute the death penalty for 'blasphemy' and leaving the religion.... the religion has some significant problems with coexistence, not beyond the power of human ability to engage in double think and selective blindness but it's going to take a long long time.

[@godisbollocks]

Yes. In the Quran and Hadith there are something like 500 separate calls to convert, subjugate or kill the unbeliever.

[@sumatra_7174]

This is partly untrue and partly a simplification

[@narendra62]

​@@sumatra_7174Partly does not a perfect religion make. Islam does it's best not to allow coexistence and to demonize other beliefs. I always like to give examples. A Muslim woman cannot marry an infidel. Idol worshipers (which refers to a large chunk of humanity) displease Allah. And Jews also displease Allah. And every Muslim knows this.

[@davidparry5310]

@@narendra62 'Islam' isn't a monolith.

[@davidparry5310]

@@Inge-99 The Ummah is basically analogous to 'the body of Christ'.

[@dimitrimatsacos7859]

Listening to you talk about Islam around the 37 min mark, are you saying there is such a thing as a secular Muslim? I mean they follow Islam for everything except believing in Mohammed ? I have the impression that this wouldn't be tolerated by other Muslims.

[@nathanjora7627]

A secular Muslim could be either someone who calls himself muslim but doesn’t believe that his religion commands or allows for imposing his views on others, be they Muslims or non Muslims, or it could be a guy that follows Islamic holidays and some of the food rules, maybe even dress codes, but doesn’t believe in god. I’ve seen at least the former, it’s quite frequent amongst westernized Muslims (the kind where they have no problem drinking, don’t wear the hijab etc).

[@keithhunt5328]

​@@nathanjora7627lol secular muslims are the most fanatic and politically islamist in India. Living a secular lifestyle has no bearing on your politics. Muhammad ali jinnah, the man who created pakistan drank wine, ate pork and rarely went to mosque, that didn't stop him from creating the first islamic state- pakistan

[@nathanjora7627]

@@keithhunt5328 I don’t think you understand what « secular » means :| Also for what it’s worth he doesn’t seem to have had a good grasp of what it meant to follow the quran either since the first constitution of Pakistan provided all kinds of right that go against coranic law, such as freedom of speech, freedom of Association, freedom of religion, all of which are heavily constrained in Islam. Also not sure what you mean by « first » Islamic state, there have been Islamic states for almost as long as there have been Muslims.

[@vaughanlockett658]

We can co exist, with Islam in the UK at this moment in time. However if current trends follow the UK by the turn of the century will be at a culture tipping point. This will represent a problem as our laws and politics would have to accommodate Islam as they would represent the majority. This could lead to conflict. It would also mean part of UK indigenous population would convert. History repeatedly tells us this story and it always plays out this way.

[@lizzieh5284]

I agree with you. The statue in Birmingham 'celebrating' the hijab is a good example. I cant believe there is no-one protesting against this. Disgraceful!

[@aesthete8033]

Already happening.

[@morticiag]

Islam CANNOT co exist with other religions or ideologies. It is not in their Dogma. Their Ethos is to make the world submit to Islam.

[@moorek1967]

No you can't because if you could then you would not be able to make the comment. Islam has destroyed England and Europe but you are too proud to confess you are just dhimmis, because of the attitude of wanting to be diverse but only with what you see as exotic. The Beatles tried that with Hinduism but only introduced New Age. They did it because they were pretentious snobs. You know this.

[@makstar7062]

Hilarious, you are a convert and don’t realise it. Your ancestors only a few generations back were Christians and now you’re a godless society. So one type of conversion is acceptable over another - I see your consistency! Absurd.

[@2thousand24]

A Muslim are not multicultural. Most people coming from Islamic nation have never interacted with other cultures. When they move west they form their own communities and wants to live by their own Islamic laws and view others as outsiders.

[@TheHitchDawk]

I'm an Atheist (in the Hitchens tradition) and one of the things I have to consider with all seriousness: at least in the UK is that, if Britain had retained the Christian faith within it's population, we as a nation would not have allowed the country's current 'islamification' (?) Doesn't mean I think Christianity is 'true' but I have to admit it would have utility in opposing mass-immigration and capitulation to muslims within the UK(?) worth considering(?)

[@greenhammer3263]

But you as a pro capitalist understands that capitalism need migrants

[@norsehorse84]

Pretty sure there are far better ways to oppose Islam than making it a doctrinal imperative to oppose Islam. The only reason Christianity has utility in that department is because it forces it upon you via doctrine and dogma rather than convincing you for actual reasons. It's not hard to find good reasons to oppose Islamic extremism. Christianity is not a worthwhile tool here.

[@greenhammer3263]

@@norsehorse84 what about Christian extremism??? Whats the tool for that??

[@JacobFrazer-ml7cu]

When I was young people were listened to based on the merit of what they said, not the color of the person saying it.

[@tulpas93]

What planet are you from?

[@VIEWITIS]

1:04:00 Without borders you have no diversity, which is what ensures humanity's resilience against unforeseen disasters.

[@VulcanLogic]

That's a hilariously stupid take.

[@harkyo]

I respect Douglas Murray, but Dillahunty is an windbag.😅

[@CRHE]

Absolutely.

[@GRIFFIN1238]

"Truth is that which comports with reality. Done." This shows a deep lack of grappling with the metaphorical nature of language, or the narrative structure of being for that matter. It's no wonder he was confused. They may share a worldview, but Douglas seems leagues ahead - he at least understands Peterson, even if he doesnt agree with him.

[@ArlindoPhilosophicalArtist]

These are two diametrically opposed individuals on the political spectrum and the fact that they come from opposite sides of 'the pond' has nothing to do with it. Matt Dillahunty is as postmodernist as they come-subscribing to Woke ideology where words lose meaning, lines are blurred, offence is taken easily and virtue-signalling is employed for political gain. The guy even subscribes to the stupid word 'Islamophobia'. Douglas Murray is a breath of fresh air and brings common sense to the table in a world quite clearly losing its marbles. He calls out Islamo-gauchisme and reminds everyone of the atrocities committed under the banner of 'multiculturalism'-in particular when Muslims demand sharia law and don't respect Western values and free speech.

[@kamifuujin]

Matt has said he's against sharia law 👀. They seem to have found quite a bit of common ground even though they have different ideologies. Many liberal Americans are not afraid to allow other cultures in as long as they are willing to follow our laws. And so far the examples of Muslims doing crazy stuff like they do in other western countries is far less prevalent here in America.

[@mkkrupp2462]

@@kamifuujin Yes but the US has enough ‘crazies’ of its own with the rampant gun culture and weekly mass shootings. The security services in the US have stated that the greatest threat in recent years has come from white right wing nationalists and incel types.

[@VulcanLogic]

I bet you vote republican and don't expect to be dragged from your house in the middle of the night by Christian braun shirts. That's cute.

[@frdml01]

Simple examples of cultural collisions: In my West European country we are used to see shop owners having products exhibited outside of their shop. In a few of our new east European EU member cultures it means that you can pick (steal) what you want for free, since no one is guarding the products. Another example is women bathing suites, or lack there of, or even bare arms and bare legs To some Asian cultures this means for men that these women can be harassed sexually.. These are just two examples, but there are many cultural collisions. I always say the current friction is not about racism, it is about colliding cultures, including religiously inspired culture and habits. I hate the horrible noise of the Friday prayer call in my city!

[@kyle55678]

As much as I love Douglas Murray, not even he can make a video with Matt Dillahunty watchable.

[@greenhammer3263]

Why do you love him? I cant find a single reason to in him being a right wing reactionary

[@tulpas93]

​@@greenhammer3263You've answered your own question.

[@MH-ro1lg]

"Islam has bloody borders"

[@zeburgerkang]

what is this broadcast from? what is the source? is it a tv channel? is there another YT that you are getting it from? please explain

[@tensaijuusan4653]

Experience would say a resounding - NO!

[@scatton61]

I am an athiest and have been since the 1960s at the age of about 8. However I consider myself as a cultural Christian. I like the architecture and the community of village life. My parents are Church of England and I attribute my ability to think objectively (mostly) to their bringing up of me. A 'I don't have a problem with a one world government'. Just ask the people who are trying it in the EU The problem with the religious not being able to define what the word God is, is the same problem with people who can't define what a woman is.

[@uditarkodutta4663]

How can some one become atheist at the age of 8 is a wonder to me.. it is an age to believe in everything fantastical

[@scatton61]

@@uditarkodutta4663 What isn't fantastical about dinosaurs? I found some fossilised wood which I took to museam and was told how old it was. I realised that I had been lied to in sunday school about how old the earth is and from that day on I needed good evidence.

[@uditarkodutta4663]

I am sorry I did not know I was talking to prodigy who was digging up dinosaurs at 8.. I was reading comics and story books then so I had no idea.. apologies

[@danix8538]

​​@@scatton61I keep seeing this trend among Brits where they pretend that they are not European and their situation is so much better. Mate, have you looked at either of your parties? Tell me which one doesn't have members making regular pilgrimages to Davos or if you can fit a paper sheet by now, between their stances on any major issue. They embrace the same borderless utopia as the EU coontz, both share the same view on their own populations, i.e. they are stupid peasants to be prodded and cajoled by their betters to the correct choices. Brexit(and I'm saying this as a supporter of it) brought you next to no relief from the same kind of policies pursued by EU. If anything for you the decay is even further along in some respects, like migration and freedom of speech. I mean in your own capital, the English are not a majority anymore. You can be picked up by the police for messages on social media. Same police which is failing abysmally in regards to crime. And on and on, and on... Why the massive cope? You're in it even worse than the people in the EU. You're about to get a Labour government who will finish the job for the Tories and probably one up them. Nobody is coming to the rescue. The only one who has some small chance, Farage, is still playing coy while the house is on fire. You are thoroughly hosed my friend. Is this really the moment to trot out again that oh-so-unique-and-clever game of "Why we are better than everyone and especially Europe, of which we are certainly not part of"? Maybe I'm just an uneducated "continental" who can't see that your apparent gallop to cultural extinction is in fact a clever ruse. Do carry on, you certainly have my attention. I'm waiting with bated breath to see how you avoid at least Enoch's prophecy not to speak of the any other number of hiccups which seem poised to hit you.

[@scatton61]

@@uditarkodutta4663 Where did i say I was digging up dinosaurs at 8?

[@markreeder1051]

This is a really great conversation! Cheers.

[@n0w3lly90]

Very very good show gentlemen and insightful conversation

[@republitarian484]

I don't really like this Dillahunty guy. Seems like he has an axe to grind. Plus he calls himself a feminist. Douglass Murray did himself no favors by being nice with him.

[@michaelthompson1110]

Okay this comment is meant with the utmost respect to all parties involved. That said I was more than a little disappointed when I heard Mr. Murray speak about his atheism. Let’s be honest here. No matter which side of the God equation you stand on and how convicted you are in your beliefs it’s always nice to look left and right to see who stands with you. Whether you’re at a family gathering or in a foxhole it’s great to see who your friends are. That’s why when I realized Mr. Murray wasn’t a believer in a higher power I was slightly down. No more than slightly down, and in another admission of bold honesty let’s face it a man of such brilliance that sees things your way only undergirds your own beliefs. I get it, I get it Mr. Dillahunty’s position of he doesn’t believe until he sees sufficient evidence can probably be extrapolated out to Dawkins’ descriptions that no amount of actual evidence will make him concede to the existence of God. Google it. I have a mountain of respect and sense of awe for the sheer intelligence of both these men regardless of the gulf of disagreement between us. I couldn’t help but notice though of something that reminded me of when I was a young boy. That is playing with friends that are waaay more willing to push the envelope on anything that probably was pretty wrong. What I mean is Mr. Dillahunty seemed way more convinced of his non-belief in a higher power than Mr. Murray. Picture them both sitting high up in a tree on a strong branch with a hand saw. I 100% believe Matt would be the one cutting further into the branch thinking the leaves below weren’t covering hard rocks while Douglas I think isn’t quite so convinced.

[@KevinPhillips_kw]

Short answer: no it can't.

[@TehNetherlands]

The answer is no, it cannot. Rather that theorize about it, look at how lsIam manifests in the real world. Too much savagery, ignorance and barbarism.

[@misc.2682]

Dillahunty: "I care about the truth that comports with reality" also Dillahunty: "Yeah, trans women are women."

[@greenhammer3263]

Thats real important 😅

[@misc.2682]

@greenhammer3263 If you can't acknowledge the most basic truth of reality, then it is clear that you do not care about truth that comports with reality. And if you claim that you do when you truly don't, you are clearly being deceitful, and when you are someone like Dillahunty, who has conversations like this for a living with a reach like he has THAT is a problem.

[@greenhammer3263]

@@misc.2682 thats just lots of lost words . Who would ever know what you are talking about

[@misc.2682]

@greenhammer3263 Is there something I said that you dissagree with? Or do you just not understand what I mean?

[@greenhammer3263]

@@misc.2682 very very vague Misc. in your follow up and on your first point who gives a fcuk

[@Jukilady]

No, they never will, they want to be in control.

[@squeesmyth9025]

doug is kinda right about ireland but we are still 95 catholic

[@simonwilton3546]

Can Islam co-exist with this century?

[@ianmacewan9416]

fantastic, two logical, fearless, highly intelligent people. We can only be thankful to common sense that there are people like this standing up for the rest of us. We can only hope that they influence enough people to stand up and put a permanent stop to herd stupidity and rampant elite dictatorship.

[@squidgy6930]

Matt Dillahunty is a coward He is petrified to extend all of his great lofty logic to gender ideology and critical race theory and other left-wing political ideologies He literally runs away, screaming when presented with questions upon it.

[@morticiag]

And then, they can tackle the Milit'ant ATHEIST governments of China and North Korea when they're done?

[@makstar7062]

Don’t forget highly paid and part of a billion dollar western campaign to dehumanise Muslims and Islam. Please read history, a cursory look at it will destroy the drivel that Douglas especially propogates.

[@troymash8109]

One brilliant person and the other is Dillahunty. Matt is as close minded a one-trick pony as there ever was.

[@ianmacewan9416]

@@troymash8109 He is an Atheist concerned mostly with religion and its affect on politics and war. So NO not exactly a one trick pony in any way.

[@gregorysgarrison]

Not sure why they are so perplexed by JBP. He tells you what he means. Obviously you can't sum it all up. That would be absurd. But there is the notion that people are hard wired for religion. Without it other things will install themselves into that space. So yes. Everybody is religious. Your religion may very well be skepticism or atheism or any number of ideologies. This is an old idea. It is easy to flippantly dismiss it. But if you are a thinking person you should at least give the idea a fair review.

[@OptimumConsulting]

Understand one important thing..and this was from a Hindu priest...For Satan to succeed....it will always disguise as a religion.....to compete and weaken with other better religions

[@richardrowlands9113]

I got rid of Facebook 4 years ago, life is good

[@informer3000]

Short answer is "No".

[@Papa0John]

I am very much a fan of Douglas Murray. For this reason it pains me to see him pandering to Mr Dillahunty. What else can you call the extraordinary tip-toeing, when asked, around the positive impact of Classical Western Culture on life today in the West. Especially when he rightly rails in his books against those who fail to defend Western Culture and the values and legacy of what we should rightly cherish. Perhaps I’ve misunderstood those books of his on my bookshelf which I purchased partly in an effort to support so courageous a defender. If Mr Dillahunty puts no value on his heritage then that is his business and in my opinion a measure of his arrogance. Giving no credit to one’s past would indeed be a fine place to stand unassisted in one’s own magnificence. That mask of arrogance is momentarily removed, disguised as humor, when at 1:22:35 Douglas says “I agree with some of that, to which Matt quips”then you are partially right”. A picture is worth a thousand words and that adroit humor put a finger on what bothered me up till this point. Clarity for Mr Dillahunty looms large and comes only when it meets his definition. He alone is judge. He seems to imagine inordinate dangers from a portion of the world, the Christian community in particular, to whom he proffers the same credit as he does Western Cultural Heritage, which appears to be zero. Some might give a more balanced view of impact, both positive and negative! I’d say that today in the era we find ourselves that the Christian community (not its televangelists) presents about as much danger as the higher elements of our Western Cultural Heritage. Until that moment of levity I had trouble putting my finger on the arrogance of someone deconstructing Christian Apologists and the likes of Jordan Peterson to show the world they and so many more did not conform to his standards for clarity and truth. One gets the feeling it was a good thing for C.S. Lewis that Matt Dillahunty wasn’t around to tell him to go home till he sorted out God’s position on slavery.

[@andrewcole4843]

The repetition of Rotherham, Oldham, Birmingham etc sectarian grooming scandals means that I look at the theology involved realise that Sharia has no age of consent and then take a position on Islam accordingly whilst digging for evidence I am wrong and finding very little.

[@AmanitaWoodrose]

Which is precisely what they have in common with the trans agenda, the sexualisation of children and abolishing the age of consent 🤮

[@Jacob-df5hr]

I feel like I understand Peterson's evasiveness because I think we actually have the same position. I don't believe in God, but I _like_ Christianity. I like the narrative, I like the idea of redemption through actualized suffering, I like the idea of allowing something terrible to happen to yourself for the sake of other people, I like the imagery, I like the solemnity. It's compelling. And I perfectly understand you can take all the worthwhile pieces of this and reconstruct them in a secular frame, but I just _like_ Christianity. And I see the hallmarks that he says this in more words.

[@YokaiX]

You might be an Atheist Christian/Christian Atheist. Check it out if you haven't heard of it. It's a real thing.

[@bal123-k4z]

Islam as preached and practiced by muhammad cannot exist with other cultures. The quran says this explicitly.

[@brocktoon8]

The answer is a resounding NO.

[@pauldurand4780]

They cant peacefully safely co-exist amongst themselves...

[@ModernNatives81]

I don’t mind anyone being a secular humanist religiously speaking, provided that they don’t actually really believe it, and are only really nominal or cultural secular humanists.

[@oliverschlesinger6744]

Did i miss the answer to "Can Islam Safely Coexist With Others?"

[@bob_frazier]

Isn't the answer to that obvious?

[@oliverschlesinger6744]

@@bob_frazier Yes, but it's never clearly adressed within that discussion. I miss the part where they _try_ to come up with a solution.

[@paulmorgancollings7833]

@olivers, Really, you're expecting to hear about a solution? There IS NO solution. The ONLY solution that is acceptable is the total dominance of islamic submission. NOTHING ELSE.

[@janetgray8638]

No. That’s the only answer you need.

[@Richcanvas]

No. Simple as that. Next question.

[@Raabana1]

2 of my favourite people in 1 room

[@yeshuadaking8705]

I love how Atheist have a title about Islam and can’t help put talk about Christianity 😂😂

[@RyuBateson218]

It's not the people in the video that gave this vid a title.

[@VelkePivo]

Dillahunty is right: he’s in no danger of being called an intellectual

[@bidenator9760]

Keep crying. Atheism is winning.

[@troomoozic3858]

The fact that the question has to be asked answers the question.

[@MrRABC1]

The more I learn about islam the more I find it abhorrent and violent and evil.... please anyone who disagrees with me please study some islamic history. Learn things before you form strong opinions is my advice.

[@suvoir]

No. Ref. India, Lebanon. ISIS, Gaza or Sweden. You are welcome.

[@pieshka4509]

Isn't Peterson's whole point about atheists aren't actually atheists because all of your moral foundations come from christianity because you were either raised directly as christians or because you were raised in a culture based on christian moral foundations? He is always focused on moral foundations and such so that's where that argument always came from when I hear it instead of the way when other people say it they state it in the same way you'd say the boldly anti-gay person is actually going around having gay sex, they think you're boldly claiming no god but you secretly pray and believe.

[@itsjustavi]

agreed, i find it kinda funny and sad that he took JP's carefully laid out argument and said it was pretty much identical to what this Christian debater had said back in the day. then he goes on about JP having some sort of secret darkness he's unable to cope with & that's the real reason he holds hos position....... like really? Jordan has said more times than i can count as a youth he was fixated on the cold war and the possibility of nuclear Armageddon. it fueled his curiosity regarding the nature of evil and good, got him in to clinical psychology ultimately in to teaching. he would ask his students to do a thought experiment of what it would take for you to be a prison guard in Auschwitz and weather or not you would participate in the atrocity's turns out most people would BUT they have a warped perception of themselfs that doesn't align itself with reality and when shit hits the fan? their heroic fantasy's shatter in an instant and the Evil they were certain only existed in evil people because they were just bad humans.... it exists in us all, the line for good and evil lies in every human heart. Jordan understands this and just how fragile society can be, if we take away any part and assume shit will just work itself out do to logic and reason? good fucking luck... and i'm not even religious really lol, but i understand why its needed.

[@hannannah1uk]

Muslims are born into their religion and it's very hard to escape. They can't just walk away like so many Christians do. If Muslims walk - or run - away they lose their family who will disown them, even their own mother who gave birth to them. In the worst situations their family will chase them to kill them. I knew a young Muslim girl in London who was a lesbian. She was in hiding from her own brothers who vowed to find her and cut her throat. Maybe they have found her by now. I don't know.

[@zacakafroztee]

Matt just doesn't understand the concept of barbarians at the gate.

[@johnybecool2810]

they are allready within the gates.

[@TrumpTown]

Breaking news: Smug atheist stays in his ways

[@nryle]

Literally at 42:00 he actually talks about barbariana at the gate, and gives a perfect anti-immigration rationale, yet remains oblivious

[@tulpas93]

I don't necessarily agree with Matt on this point, but you really are misrepresenting him. He does understand and actually addresses this (here and elsewhere), he just has a different opinion on how to respond to the situation than you and I.

[@zacakafroztee]

@tulpas93 if he thinks that any culture is equal to any culture, and doesn't care if his culture disappears (as he states in the video) then he does not understand.

[@Free-SpokenMedia]

I like how Judaism isn't even mentioned. Never ask an atheist an out why they never talk about the source and only the 2 off shoots.

[@Goettel]

No, cancer can't safely coexist with better life.